Even Prince Harry & Meghan can’t save King Charles & Camilla’s Struggle Chubbly

As we’ve discussed, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have gone radio-silent over their attendance at King Charles’s coronation. Their silence is making so many people nervous. Buckingham Palace can’t keep their story straight, and the palace continues to leak all kinds of sh-t about how they have contingency plans for this and that involving Harry and Meghan. The British media is getting nervous too – they’re worried they overplayed their hand, threatening vile treatment on the Sussexes if they came to the Chubbly. What we’re seeing this week is the palace and the media working in concert to reel in expectations and soften the language. Speaking of, Ephraim Hardcastle at the Daily Mail led his column with this:

Buckingham Palace remains optimistic that the Duke of Sussex will attend his father’s Coronation, with Harry hoping he will not have to pay homage to Queen Consort Camilla. He has made no secret of his antipathy towards his stepmother, telling 60 Minutes: ‘She was the villain, she was a third person in the marriage. The need for her to rehabilitate her image… that made her dangerous.’ He has been struggling with the prospect of watching the woman who ‘replaced’ his mother wearing the crown that should have been Diana’s, and being anointed just a few yards from where her coffin had rested at Westminster Abbey. A royal source whispers only William will now pay homage to his dad with Harry remaining in his seat, adding: ‘Harry will not have to pass the Queen Consort and bow as he does so.’ Problematis solvendis?

[From The Daily Mail]

This is how desperate they are to get Harry to come – the palace is publicly emphasizing that Harry will not have to bow or show courtesy or respect to his stepmother. The same stepmother who is hellbent on reminding everyone that the coronation is HER victory lap, that it’s HER coronation too. Speaking of, the Daily Beast’s Royalist column had a fascinating piece called “Why does King Charles and Camilla’s coronation already feel like a bust?” Oh no, y’all.

Seniors are supposed to be the most loyal supporters of the monarchy. So it should have spent a shiver of alarm down the spine of Palace spinners when a new poll this week found that the over-55s had the least interest of all Britons in attending street parties or other community events to celebrate the coronation of King Charles and Queen Camilla. The poll by Redfield and Wilton Strategies found that those who said they were least likely to attend community parties were older voters, aged 55 – 64 and 65+.

Maybe they were just afraid of catching COVID or a cold? Well no—astonishingly, those same demographics were the most likely to have hosted or attended such parties to mark Queen Elizabeth’s Platinum Jubilee last summer, according to a report in the Daily Mail which commissioned the research. The only possible conclusion is that they just aren’t that into Charles and Camilla.

Of course, a poll is just a poll, but it has added to the gnawing sense that the coronation is failing to capture the imagination of the nation.

While British newspapers keep faithfully churning out stories about details such as the vegan oil that will be used to consecrate the king and queen, many small business owners and parents with school age children are deeply irritated that due to an extra coronation public holiday, there will only be four working days in the 10 days between Saturday 29 April and Monday 8 May. One central London art gallery owner told The Daily Beast that they, along with many others, wouldn’t be opening for the intervening days, saying: “It will be dead. Everyone will be out of town. After all the disruption of the last three years, we really didn’t need another Christmas—in May.”

But Charles and Camilla seem to have a bigger problem; straightforward, old-fashioned unpopularity. Although Charles got a bit of a bounce when he became king, he is still desperately unpopular compared to his mother.

[From The Daily Beast]

They always say that there are more monarchists among the senior population, and that younger people are more likely to be republicans, but look at that – seniors don’t give a sh-t about Charles and Camilla either. The Daily Beast actually points out that Charles and Camilla seem to be the most unpopular monarchs in something like 200 years. LMAO. In addition to the desperate polling, the Royalist points out that the palace is still struggling to bring in celebrities to perform for the Chubbly concert because “King Charles and Queen Camilla is a tricky sell. They aren’t exactly the wokest names to be aligned with” and no one knows who will actually perform at the concert even now.

No wonder why the palace continues to be frantically pivoting to the Sussexes’ attendance – Charles is desperate for Harry and Meghan’s star power at his coronation, to the point where he’s openly negotiating Harry’s disrespect to Camilla through the media.

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  1. Brit says:

    That media and family is desperate. They know that if Harry and his family don’t attend, no one will care and their media buddies will be upset about a major payday loss. You have people literally begging the Sussexes to confirm if they’ll attend. I thought they were irreverent and everyone hated them? I really do think there has been threats especially from the tabloids, who actually lost in this “war” because they bet on the wrong horse and the horse is not giving what Harry And Meghan gave. Which is interest, glamour and star power and the family is caught in bind because if they do come, the media will make it all about them and the leaks will start and if they don’t, the media will still make it about them. That’s the palaces fault for making them the fall guy repeatedly and making the press rely on them for clicks and views. The toxicity.

    • ELX says:

      But, but—notice it’s all about Harry showing up—the bi-racial American and her offspring are welcome to stay home. This conspicuous display (a new golden coach?) when people are hungry, cold, and on strike is unbelievably gross. Donate to a string of food banks and stay home. I hope the Set raises money to actually help the poor people of Britain.

      • Tessa says:

        It’s disgraceful that these items about only Harry going keep on in the media. It is sexist and racist. Big Time.

      • Renstewart says:

        Excellent idea! Someone should run with that fundraising idea. Stay home and give to food and assistance charities.

      • Rackel says:

        I understand them giving up on megan coming. They all lied to much on her.
        I’m disappointed that known of the press or court have made a case for the children going. Yeah, they are young but it’s an important day. Camilla people will be there so why not.

      • Kristen from MA says:

        A new coach? Isn’t it the same one used by QEII?

  2. Inge says:

    She looks deeply uncomfortable in that throne. Good. Who’s jewelry has she stolen this time?

    And Charles is slouching.

    • Isabella says:

      The prob is the Windsors refuse to make nice in public, like a classy family would. They are not glam to begin with and the scowling makes them look even more hideous. They’ve spent the run-up leaking ugly thoughts about the Sussexes. It is all so grim, The optics will be terrible.

    • Ginni says:

      @Inge hopefully the rottweiler will bathe for the clowning.

  3. Moxylady says:

    My fervent hope is that Harry and Meghan have kept to their digital diet and so haven’t seen any of this blithering. It’s still abuse but if they refuse to read it or allow it to impact their lives…. I like that.
    But with something like this and knowing his family is briefing against him, I suppose it really does show the whole picture vs what the palace may be saying.

  4. Z says:

    It’s giving we eff’d around and now we’re finding out. LMAO love it for them.

    • HarryforLife says:

      Yessssss! Literally came here to say that. Also: “Oh no, y’all.” that made me laugh out loud, thank you Kaiser😂

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      Agreed. Wherever Diana is, I hope she’s grinning and having a nice glass of bubbly right now.

      • Sugarhere says:

        No wonder ” the coronation is failing to capture the imagination of the nation. ” This Charles + Camilla Corodamnation is scripted like a fairy tale turned upside down, where the conniving villains are celebrated and glorified, while the virtuous ones have either departed under suspicious circumstances, or been vilified out of the kingdom.

        Such blatant reversal of the expected order and desecration of the common moral values is a reminder that Camilla had a particularly baleful influence in the Palace’s scheme to discard Diana. Even fervent monarchists can see for themselves that crowning a home wrecker – who is now becoming boldly ostentatious about her good fortune – is the worst dystopian scenario. So who in their right mind would wish they were participants in the dislocated wonky tale?

    • The Recluse says:

      Ah, the aroma of fresh consequences in the morning.
      Charles is reaping what he’s sown. I doubt Camilla cares beyond a certain point. Her nest is well lined.

  5. Rapunzel says:

    “Charles is desperate for Harry and Meghan’s star power at his coronation, to the point where he’s openly negotiating Harry’s disrespect to Camilla through the media.”

    Chuckles is definitely desperate for star power at his UpChuckathon 2023. But can you negotiate disrespect when there was never respect to begin with?

    I highly doubt Harry or William have ever or will ever respect Camilla. The only difference is Harry can’t be forced to pretend anymore. William is stuck.

    The more bitter and unhappy William is, the more it becomes clear that he envies his little brother at the same time he wants to consider himself superior to his little brother. But he wants Harry’s freedom, for sure. And that gets less and less possible with every day.

    Mark my words: William will look more miserable than ever at the UpChuckathon 2023. Because he is trapped.

    • Cass says:

      King upchuck has a nice ring to it

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        I’ve taken to calling them “Chucky & Bride of Chucky” because they’re such a g-d horror show. This Con-A-Nation just screams “Fyre Festival”

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        LOL @ Where’sMyTiara! Love the names. Too true. The Chubbly is becoming the Fyre Festival. Promises of steak and all you’re going to end up with is tasteless ham between two pieces of stale white bread.

    • Tessa says:

      William will practically have to grovel to his father and stepmother. Will he have to bow for a few minutes while Chuck is crowned? Too bad Will ousted his brother and sister in law.

      • Kingston says:

        This is what I dont get, re Bullyam: he has leverage but I dont think he realizes it.

        I:e, he’s the next king….they have no one else for now, if they wish to continue this CONarchy (by “they” I mean all the Machiavellians in both the Institution, such as the bee/the wasp, etc…….. as well as the govt and the entire aristocracy.)

        They cannot afford the unravelling of the monarchy, as it will be the unravelling of their entire society, on which so much grift is based.

        So Bullyam, as the linchpin of it all, can simply decide NOT to take the knee to camilla. Who’s gonna check him?

        BUT, like Harry was, Bullyam is an institutionalized man and therefore has no concept of independent thought. Do you remember the Shawshank Redemption? Morgan Freeman’s character was let out on parole after 40 years in prison. And while living in a half-way house and being employed as a supermarket bagboy, he couldnt help himself from asking permission to do anything, even to take a pee. At one point his exasperated supervisor said, listen, you dont have to ask me every time you need to take a piss.

        Thats what it means to be institutionalized…….one has no concept of personal freedom, independence, individuality, etc. Rmbr in Spare after H told Bully something the Comms team told him to do and Bully said: you dont have to listen to them. Then H said incredulously: “Since when!!” Or later on, when H said, after M told him of her suicidal ideation on the same evening they had an engagement, he said he regrets “thinking like institutionalized Harry instead of husband Harry” when he told her they couldnt be late getting to the event.

        Bully, after 40 years of knowing no other life, ais sooooo institutionalized. Thank GOD! H freed himself.

        Bullyam is institutionalized and under-developed and therefore, it will never occur to him that he can simply tell chucky and the lot of them: listen, I think this bowing to the spouse of the monarch is not something we need to continue. It ends with me. I do not wish to bow to camilla because she is not the monarch (mong many other reasons.)

        Why in heavens name is he supposed to bow to her anyway? She is not the monarch. Did anyone bow to phillip when betty was crowned? Pfffttt! Phillip didnt even have s seat……he had to stand around until it was time for him to kneel before betty and pledge fealty.

        And BTW, this bowing and swearing allegiance to the monarch, like its still medieval times when the show of loyalty was so crucial to the survival of the monarch and monarchy, is completely unnecessary today.

        It always amuses me to see that the BRF has no original ideas to ensure its continuity or for adaptation to modern times……theyre intent on carrying out the archaic and arcane rituals and procedures (and garb!) concocted by their ancestors and which have absolutely no meaning or bearing on anything in the modern world or the future.

        Is the BRF telling us that their ancestors, even tho theyre all long dead and gone, still set the agenda for the BRF and will continue to do so in perpetuity?

        Theyre in for a very rude awakening in the not too distant future.

      • Ginni says:

        @Kingston l really enjoyed reading what you wrote, you are very eloquent, so on point. Thank you.

  6. Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

    I’m still chuckling every time I read that William, and William only, will have to bow and swear fealty to the king. I might watch the conanation just to see that 🤣

  7. ThatsNotOkay says:

    Good for Harry. He and his family should never have to bow to Camilla, ever. Stick tight to your guns, metaphorically speaking, Harry. Not going is a win. Going, but getting everything you want in return, would be a win of sorts too. Can’t lose, unless you buckle.

    • SarahLee says:

      Meghan and their children are US citizens so they never have to bow unless they choose to do so. To anyone.

      • notasugarhere says:

        UK citizens are not required to bow either.

      • SarahLee says:

        I didn’t know that @notsugarhere. Interesting. Harry would really set off a bomb if he refused to bow to either of them. LOL!

      • mycatlovestv says:

        Wow @notsugarhere! I always assumed that Britons HAD to bow to royalty. Thanks for that information!

  8. Jais says:

    “The coronation is failing to capture the imagination of the nation.” What is there to imagine? It’s reality. Charles and his consort Camilla are really going to ride through town in a brand new golden carriage while wearing stolen jewels. What absurdity is there left to imagine?

    • Brit says:

      The palace and press knew Camilla and Charles would be a hard sell. That’s why they were worried about Harry’s book. Remember the headlines about Harry publicly acknowledging Camilla as Queen. Harry’s word is powerful and they wanted his backing publicly to benefit her. Not to mention high profile people turning down the coronation. Even William and Kate have been a hard sell because no one cares about them, even their own newspapers. They’re all boring and bland and without Harry and Meghan, they’re fading out even more.

      • HarryforLife says:

        It’s also because you can’t fake passion and give a crap about other people. H&M are driven by service and that’s always been shown. W&K and Camilla have always looked like it’s a chore to “serve”, they usually just look like “you’re welcome, I’m here”. Charles at least appears to like serving, but it’s not enough to balance his spinelessness and everything he’s done to his late ex-wife and now son/DIL and grandkids. No “spin doctor” or “His Angela” will fix that.

    • Zazzoo says:

      Comparing this to a young queen whose uncle abdicated and father died young … now carrying the hopes and dreams of a nation in her twenties with the potential to reign for decades … two elderly people who live in the shadow of the beloved princess they bullied and drove out of the palace … and decades later are estranged from her son … this isn’t exactly a coronation filled with hopes for a new beginning.

      • Seraphina says:

        Very eloquently written and very true. And the world has changed and society has changed. The young princess was a clean slate – these two are not.

      • Maida says:

        Yes, this is what the courtiers and company don’t want to acknowledge. QEII was crowned as a young woman with her life ahead of her who had gained the respect of the nation. Charles’ and Camilla’s failings are only too well known.

      • Babz says:

        What an eloquent comment. And right to the heart of the matter.

      • MaryContrary says:

        This-not to mention, it was a post-war world where there was so much rebuilding to do. Different times for sure.

      • Lily says:

        I had always hoped (yes I’m a dreamer…lol) as a member of the Commonwealth that our late queen had made some sort of quiet deal in which Chuck could marry horseface, only if he would be willing to give up any claim to the throne. There is absolutely nothing about either of them that feels “Royal”, if that makes any sense.

      • TigerMcQueen says:

        This here exactly.

        If Snarles had just treated his first wife with kindness and respect and realized what a boon she was to him and the monarchy, and been a father to his children, then he might have earned the public respect he thinks he should be given.

      • Alice says:

        Indeed. Charles grossly underestimated to what extend Elisabeth was a product of different circumstances and a different time (war, post war, etc) which both contributed to her glow not to mention that she did have the strong work/respect values of her generation. Even though still being extremely privileged, she did have a foot on the ground at most times which no doubt helped her image.
        Charles has neither of those factors on his side but he apparently completely ignored this fact and believed that a modern public will transfer automatically to him the respect and reverence the post war public gave his mother. Ludicrous assumption.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Elizabeth was also one of the Greatest Generation and served as an army mechanic during WWII, another reason why those of her generation respected and revered her so much. Charles simply can’t coast in on that shared experience and he’s finding his mother’s coat tails aren’t that long at all. There’s just no comparison, especially given the scandals in his life.

      • NoNoNotAnyMore says:

        @Zazzoo Spot On!

    • Deering24 says:

      Cosign. All the King’s courtiers and all the King’s spin-doctors can’t fix this mess, no matter how hard they try.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Ye bubbles raised by breath of kings.

        You know what I remember, I Remember the Titans. Unifying for a goal. The BaRF doesn’t have that in their Flunky Four. True apologies can go far. Love the movie.
        I know who the Titans are and they do not reside on the Salty Isle.

  9. Paulkid says:

    Seniors remember Diana and what those two did to her.

    • GoldenMom says:

      This. We were around for the whole thing.

    • Prairiegirl says:

      Anyone over 35, really.

    • SarahLee says:

      100% agree. We were around and watched it all play out in real time. For those who weren’t or had forgotten, The Crown has been a lovely reminder. Harry’s memoir was also a good reminder of everything that was going on at that time. The older folks hate Charles and Camilla. The younger folks are anti-monarchy.

    • AnneL says:

      Yup. The Crown’s whitewashing can’t convince me that Chuck and Cam were True Love Thwarted. Most of us remember where we were when we found out Diana had died. And watching the boys walk behind her coffin.

      I am so glad Season 6 can’t come out in time to soften Charles’ edges and portray him as some kind of victim in Diana’s death. The Chubbly is upon us and he’s unpopular, his wife even more so.

      • Portia says:

        Yes, I totally remember where I was when I found out she had died. I started to cry and did not know why I was crying. I had nothing in common with her and I was not her friend or family. And I realized why I was crying was because she cared about people and helping people and she was fun and wore her heart on her sleeve. What they did and how they treated her was awful.

      • Angie says:

        Not with saying Camilla has hijacked the coronation by trying to showcase her plain looking family while and the King is snubbing his 2nd son family. So much for diversity and inclusion.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles even told his biographer he did not want to marry Camilla when he first met her and before she married APB. Dimbleby put this in his book based on interviews with Charles himself. Charles a few years later made up the myth that he asked his mother if he could marry Camilla and she said no. Charles did not even bother. And did not tell her to wait for him so his being “sent to sea”did not actually stop him from planning a future with her before he left for his tour of duty.

    • Couch potato says:

      Ding ding ding! I can’t help laughing. C&C thought they’d improved their reputation. As soon as the queen died, the steady supporters of the RF turned their backs at them.

    • Nic919 says:

      Bingo. 55 and up means they were adults during the entire breakdown of the marriage and they recall how Diana was treated.

    • Jojo says:

      That’s it exactly. I’m in this demographic and there are few of us who have forgotten, or forgiven, the Diana years. Diana’s death was a ‘do you remember where you were when..’ moment for us and even those of us who were not particularly royal followers at the time now know all the shocking details of what led up to that tragedy. Charles and Camilla can never wash away that stain, they were tainted even before their abysmal treatment of H&M. The fact that it seems to be happening again, with Diana’s youngest son and his little family as the victims, just adds to the contempt & disgust felt for this couple who want to be called King & Queen.

      • Ginni says:

        @Jojo exactly that! Especially “Charles and Camilla can never wash away that stain, they were tainted even before their abysmal treatment of H&M” king tampon and queen Rottweiler deserve everything is coming their way.

      • Lily Rose says:

        I was sitting outside of the first McDonalds in Moscow when Diana died.

        Diana’s death and 9-11 are the two events for Gen X to always remember. I was born in 1974. That makes me middle aged.

        My mother insisted I stay in bed when Diana married Charles so I sat silently down the hall to watch their wedding.

  10. MsIam says:

    “King Charles and Queen Camilla is a tricky sell. They aren’t exactly the wokest names to be aligned with” and no one knows who will actually perform at the concert even now. Oh really? I thought good old Lionel Ritchie was gonna sing “All Night Long” lol. Well good for Lionel if he backed out, my eighties love has been restored. But considering Lionel is/was a cheater too maybe he was looking forward to commiserating with Charles.

  11. Colleen says:

    My friend and I are going to London that week (forgot there was a coronation the same weekend 😐). I’m kinda excited to see how this all plays out Saturday.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    I agree that the Palace and press are concerned and are desperate for Harry and Meghan to attend. This is why they shouldn’t attend. Their presence will give the coronation the attention it doesn’t deserve.

    • Cessily says:

      So far it has just been a briefing frenzy, there has been no substance or change. They haven’t apologized, addressed the racist hate campaign or the very real security issues face by the Sussex when they travel to England. Until that happens it doesn’t matter what is printed in the rags by the rota which is the propaganda arm of the palaces. The eviction from Frogmore shows exactly how backstabbing and evil these people are still to this day. Always believe the actions of someone they are far more truthful to their character than words will ever be.

      • HamsterJam says:

        Seriously if Charles wanted Harry at his Chubbly he would have waited until it was over to evict him from the house he paid for. That is why I am not buying all this “KFC wants him there” bs

      • Mary says:

        Very good point @hamsterjam; I am inclined to agree

  13. Carrot says:

    Swift mental image of Chas dancing in a red shirt and no pants, singing I’m so struggly in my chubbly

  14. equality says:

    And PW has no problem bowing to Cam?

    • Rapunzel says:

      I’m convinced William is enraged about this but stuck with no choice. He’s going to look so unhappy. I’m expecting his sour face to dominate Twitter and inspire countless memes, especially if Harry isn’t there.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Yup, there’s no way he isn’t pissed about this whole situation. The back and forth in the press about the roles of Camilla’s kids and grandkids vs. that of his kids is enough indication that things behind the scenes are likely very tense. Cam’s got Will cornered though, so he’ll just have to grimace and bear it.

      • Couch potato says:

        He’ll have to bear it now, but Cam better start praying she doesn’t outlive Chuck. Willnot won’t be kind to her.

      • Cinder says:

        Does it matter what Will wants to do? Camilla will still be a dangerous woman to cross. Unless Will writes a memoir confessing to every sin and leaves her with no power over him (which I find extremely unlikely), Camilla is going to have several decades worth of dirt on every single member of the royal family. And I’m sure she’ll make sure Chuck takes care of her financial independence.

    • SarahCS says:

      Maybe he will actually explode with rage. That would generate some genuine interest in the Clowning.

    • Renae says:

      Perhaps when he bows to Cam, he can upChuck at the same time? Because of too many sausages???…sure.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t think William does have a problem with it. We’ve all heard/read the things he’s said about his mother, gaslighting her after the fact, all while trying to use her for PR.

      We’ve also seen that William has no problem with infidelity. Cheated with Kate, has cheated on Kate for 20 years. Followed Papa’s example of threatening and silencing a free press when they dared to talk about his most public affair. Accepted Anmer Hall for the ‘family home’, the house where Charles/Camilla conducted their affair for years.

      As long as Camilla doesn’t come after William, but only comes after Kate and Sussex Family, William doesn’t have a problem with her.

      • Jais says:

        I always think about that moment in Spare where William is furious about Camilla and his dad. Saying something like give them an inch and they take a mile. It was something like that I think? Then Harry is like yes and starts relating it to him and Meghan and William just shuts it down. William is out for himself. It felt like that moment was possibly an allusion to the Rose rumors and somehow William credited that to them. Then, thinking about how Camilla’s son is such close buddies with Giles Coren, the originator of the rumor… At this point, William mostly has to watch his back with her. It’s self-preservation. To prevent more dirt from spilling, he’s bowing down to Cam, even if he might be choking down bile the whole time.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think Camilla knows not to push William, she’s learned that lesson. She can do whatever she wants to Sussex Family and Kate, but not to William.

    • Lizzie says:

      Question, Camilla is queen/queen consort now, is William not bowing to her? He should be. Sorry, not sorry.

  15. HeyKay says:

    I hope H&M snub the entire coronation.
    Stay in CA, and give no comments. Let Charles sink, he deserves it completely.

    This idea that Seniors support the monarchy is untrue I think.
    Might have been true of QE. Not so much true of Charles, and no one likes Camilla.

    • Zazzoo says:

      Supporting a queen who’s been on the throne from before your birth, who has devoted herself in service completely to the nation, who has become synonymous with Britain … enter Chuck.

  16. Brassy Rebel says:

    The public humiliation of Charles and his mistress is wonderful to see. It’s encouraging that even Boomers have had enough of this 🐎💩.

  17. Cardigan says:

    It would be amazing if all the top-tier artists are already booked to perform at Archie’s birthday party in Montecito.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Fun as it is to imagine, I don’t think they’re the type to throw an over the top party for a 4yo. Cake, balloons, face-painting, family & friends. Oh, and dogs. And just running around the backyard having fun.

  18. lleepar says:

    [Excerpt:] “Charles is desperate for Harry and Meghan’s star power at his coronation, to the point where he’s openly negotiating Harry’s disrespect to Camilla through the media.”

    Well then, Charles shouldn’t have thrown them out of FrogCott. There’s really nothing much the Palace has to offer H&M now.

    • Feeshalori says:

      This man is such a classic example of shooting yourself in your own foot.

    • elle says:

      The disfunction in the rf is sad…. but hilarious. The rf should have been paying attention to H&M star power instead of savoring and promoting the british media trashing of H&M. Now, now Chucky desperately needs that star power. Where were the rf when H&M needed them? Pulling security and abandoning them. Karma calling. Instead of planning their next jewel heist or money grab, the rf should have been planning for long term effects of their pettiness…. most recently on display at Betty’s funeral. Personally, I would certainly never challenge H&M to a chess game!

  19. Concern Fae says:

    So Chuck effed around, assuming forcing TQ to give public support to Camilla being The Full Queen and embiggening her at the coronation, would increase public support. Instead, he’s cratered any public support he might have had. People began paying attention to him after TQ died and he always had Camilla by his side. And people remembered how much they effing hate her.

    Pushing her family forward at the coronation is a huge mistake. It will remind people how much they hate her and make her look like a power hungry schemer. It kills the lovers who sacrificed so much to be together vibe they had been pushing for so long. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    Charles pushing his family away only highlights how weak he is. The whole British aristocracy is built on right of rule by birth. Charles seems to think he can undermine that without people questioning why HE is there.

    • SunRae says:

      “Charles pushing his family away only highlights how weak he is. The whole British aristocracy is built on right of rule by birth. Charles seems to think he can undermine that without people questioning why HE is there.” – YOU GAVE A SERMON HERE.

  20. Becks1 says:

    I think they are deeply unpopular because of who they are, yes, obviously.

    But I also think that sometimes people just accept something as the status quo but then a change makes them not accept it anymore. LOL I know that makes zero sense. Basically I’m trying to say that people were okay with all the trappings of the monarchy when it was the Queen because she had been the queen for so long that it was easy to associate those things with HER, not with the institution, you know? The Queen rides in a gold carriage – good good, that makes sense. The Queen has multiple palaces and takes months-long vacations several times a year – good good, that makes sense. The Queen wears crowns dripping in diamonds and other jewels – good good, that makes sense. That’s how its always been (I mean for most British people she was just The Queen for their entire lives) and i think people just accepted it.

    Pivot to having Charles and all of a sudden all of that looks……off. Why does charles get to ride in a gold carriage? Why does Charles need all these palaces? Why does Camilla get to wear the biggest diamonds in the world? Things that people were willing to accept because it was The Queen – they aren’t willing to accept anymore.

    • SarahCS says:

      I agree and I think what you’re saying makes complete sense. Liz was The Queen, it was all most of us had ever known, an intrinsic part of the country like the Houses of Parliament. Her longevity gave the monarchy something absolutely invaluable that I really don’t think anyone fully appreciated. Of course she’s on the coins and stamps, always has been, etc. But we see Charles as a man with a very mixed track record and for all his work on the Princes Trust and around the environment, he’s even more associated with his infidelity and the tragic death of his first wife.

      Maybe he’s just making us realise that it always was a case of the emperors new clothes?

    • Zazzoo says:

      You’re making tons of sense. The Queen was an institution. However one feels about the institution itself – and let’s be honest that until recently the masses weren’t overly critical of the institution’s colonial past and white supremacist associations – she was Britain personified.

      Diana from a family older than the royals and beloved by the nation was a gift to them and they couldn’t see it through their jealously. Maybe she was difficult. Maybe she didn’t play by the rules. But just imagine the coronation if she were going to be queen. They’d be turning down the world’s biggest celebrities wanting to be involved. The broadcast would be a global sensation. The RF might have q chance to survive another generation.

      • Mary Pester says:

        @ZAZOO, You have hit the nail on the head. We who remember Diana know what a rebel against the stuffy carrying on at the paiace she was. She CARED, she showed that she cared. She met ordinary people and made them feel important to HER. Even taking the time to visit them in their own homes. She visited aids patients in hospital, held their hands and removed the stigma of doing it. She chose some under published charities and brought them to the fore and tried so hard to keep her sons grounded. The warmth that was Diana is now apparent in her youngest son Harry. He goes that extra Mile and does NOT have the full court press there to brag about it. Megan works quietly by his side, at the same time as doing her own charity work. Now look at BULLYAM and Princess botox, they can’t even sneeze without the papers doing a two page spread! In other words, HARRY AND MEGAN DO,, and BULLYAM and botox DON’T. People are bored with seeing them every 5 minutes, t
        People have come to realise they are all show and no substance, and as for Charlie, he is just seen as a grumpy old man that instead of getting on with his life and actually making something of himself, he sat on his hands waiting for his mother to die, just like camzilla, who laid on her back waiting for the same! Harry was so right when he said William was trapped, but I don’t think even he realised what a selfish cretin his brother is. NO, Harry has shown them all how it SHOULD be done and now they are desperately trying to drag him back into the circus I noticed yesterday that “Take That” had said they will perform at the clowning 😂😂😂😂when was the last time anyone heard of them 🤔

      • Tessa says:

        Zazzoo Diana was not “difficult” . Women are not “difficult” when they complain about another woman running the show. Diana was not a doormat. I should think it was Charles who was the difficult one, insisting he was “entitled” to keeping a mistress. And he had other relationships during the Diana marriage including meetings with Janet Jenkins at Highgrove. Janet Jenkins gave an interview, and the love letters of Jenkins and Charles were sold at an auction. Charles made up his own rules and was and is selfish and egocentric. The Queen just ostriched over the dysfunction of Charles behavior during his first marriage and later his pushing Camilla as Queen consort. The Queen when ill capitulated to Charles demands and maybe she did so by bargaining with Charles so Andrew would be spared.

      • zazzoo says:

        @Tessa – I was quoting Diana herself when she was paraphrasing the RF in an interview “She’s difficult. She does things we don’t. Why?” But you make good points. Women are constantly dismissed as difficult for not being doormats, and it’s never wrong to call attention to that fact.

    • MrsTTempest says:

      So much this, even though, in latter years, the Queen’s failure to protect H&M rocked the status quo for many of us. As the proclaimed ‘head of The Firm’, she had the ability to protect the married-ins, eg when there was an official denial that Kate wore wiglets. But the very serious lies about Megan were allowed free reign in the media. Yes, I know that HMQ was said to have relinquished family matters to Phillip, but still she acquiesced to the dreadful treatment of her grandson and his family. Or even if, as has been suggested elsewhere, this was done by the Grey Men without her knowledge, what does this say about her effectiveness as head of The Firm or about Charles’ abilities in the role. The status quo has been truly shifted.

      • windyriver says:

        Some good points here. TQ’s reign slowly began to tarnish in her last few years, particularly because of the way H&M were treated. It doesn’t really matter who was responsible for acting, or not acting, TQ, the courtiers. The things the Sussexes were subject to, the fact the RF didn’t even so much as remove vile, racist comments from their own social media – whatever glow still remained from the reputation and longevity of Elizabeth II had already started crumbling well before she died. That’s why things went downhill so quickly after she passed. The most recent memories were of the historically worst propensities of the institution. Any goodwill connected with her memory was already likely to be short lived – and in comes Charles, to demonstrate – at his mother’s funeral no less – that every kind of petty vindictiveness was a feature, not a bug, of the Firm.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        I posted on another thread that Elizabeth failed to put her house in order before she died, and I stand by that. She was very “hands off” with any subject beyond her tiny circle of interest (horses, dogs, protecting Andrew, etc.) and they are paying the price for it now. As Biden said, silence is acceptance, and the queen could have used her emmense popularity to speak out against racist attacks, but she chose not to. I don’t want to hear anyone say the queen couldn’t speak out against racism because that would have been “political” because common human decency should not be pidgeon-holed as “politics.” If anything, the opposite is true — Elizabeth WAS playing politics by turning a blind eye to racism. That family knows who their “base” is, and plays up to it. I hold them in the same light as the Trumps. Yes, including Elizabeth, a woman who was baffingly revered for never saying a single thing of substance in her entire life.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Yes, this. We’ve discussed on here for years. Once QEII was gone, the gloves would come off. Commonwealth nations would peel away. Scotland and Northern Ireland would peel away. Millions would wake up, assess the situation, and decide monarchy should be ended.

    • Couch potato says:

      It makes perfect sense to me. In addition to what you guys have pointed out; the queen used an old uncomfortable golden carriage. She used an old throne, while Chuck wants new ones. The old and frail queen stuck with what was already made, while Chuck wastes huge sums on new toys for himself, in the middle of economic crisis right and left. People can’t afford food, while their taxes are spent on golden toys for the new king. If this had happened in France, the second revolution would’ve started already.

    • Whyforthelove ish says:

      100% agree Becks1. Accepting someone who has always been there is one thing. But then watching Chuck and the Mistress act like the Royal Mafia is a whole different thing. The behavior and the change in circumstances is quite the wake up call

  21. TIFFANY says:

    He can still cancel this idiocy. No one wants to celebrate him and his ego needs to accept that.

  22. Carobell says:

    They aren’t likeable. Charles and Camilla can do whatever, but they aren’t likeable, aspirational, or inspirational. They are deeply out of touch with the needs and wants of the people they are supposed to ‘rule’ over. Meghan and Harry attending or not attending is a non issue, in the greater scope of the very real questions about the state of world and if royalty fits into it.

    • Michelle says:

      Cowmilla walking past the dancers at church on Commonwealth Day was sickening. She’s far worse than Harry or the media have painted her. Zero class, totally racist.

  23. Nicki says:

    That’s so interesting. Tom Sykes is usually shading Meghan or Harry, not Chuck and Cams. He’s been reliably pro-Windsor and anti-Sussex. Feels like a bellwether.

    • Roo says:

      Because he has no loyalty except to his wallet, and it’s been withering away without the Sussexes. If they stay away from the Chubbly, he and his peers will have zero exposure worldwide. No one outside the U.K. will care much about the shiny new hats.

      • Renae says:

        I wonder how many times over how many years did Chuck go visit with the royal crowns, trying each on to see which he thought made him look more regal? Perhaps it will with fall off his head or slip down over his face. If they make it so large so it fits his ego, it will surely wing up as a necklace

    • Pumpkin (Was Sofia) says:

      He’s never really been “pro Windsor” so the speak. I just think he’s a typical aristo: hates both W&K and H&M, but the hate for H&M is stronger.

      • A says:

        If the fantastic Tatler article about Kate was anything to go by, this is the closest thing to the truth.

  24. Watson says:

    Strange how they hate Harry so much but can’t live without him cause he’s the only human with a pulse in that family.

  25. Amy Bee says:

    When Harry and Meghan announced Lili was christened I thought it meant that they were going to attend the coronation. But the more I think about it the more I believe they’re not going. I think given that Charles had already taken their house they knew the titles would be next either after or before the coronation. They made the announcement to ensure that the Palace acknowledged the titles and that they wouldn’t be taken away as punishment for not attending the coronation.

    • Couch potato says:

      The titles can still be taken away, but doing it like this means Chuck have to answer for it. With H&M publicly using the titles, he can’t hide behind “it’s what H&M want”. Archie should’ve been adressed as earl of “Harry’s lesser title”, or at least lord Archie and Lilybet as Lady Lilibet before the queen died, but they were listed as master and miss. Was that because H&M wanted it, or did the “palace sources” tell the rota without H&M’ s blessing? For someone so hung up on protocol, it’s a big no no.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Coach potato: It will be more difficult for Charles to take away the titles now. The Palace propaganda was that Harry and Meghan didn’t want any titles for their children at all. But thanks to Meghan we now know that wasn’t true. The same way the Palace took Meghan’s name off Archie’s birth certificate, I believe they made sure that Archie’s name on his certificate was made as Mountbatten-Windsor.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Lily, there were copies of the birth certificates at one time flying around and being reported by the bm. The first one had Meghan’s name on it and the second one did not.

  26. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    That article made me smile. Don’t know why, but an evil-like grin appeared out of nowhere. gasp.

  27. Sophie says:

    You know, I remember last week I was saying that maybe, just maybe Charles wanted his son here to offer a united front. Nah, I am over it! He just wants to save face and Harry and Meghan be the only thing that can drive traffic to this stupid coronation. As I’ve said before, I am hoping that they will stay at home with birthday boy Archie and have a lot of fun at the expense of this wretched family…

  28. Noor says:

    Does Charles really thinks it is a good idea for him and Camilla to be anointed with holy oil in a public ceremony. Even Queen Elizabeth kept it as a private ceremony. Charles should forgo it entirely and opt for a European style inauguration of office instead of a lavish royal coronation.

    • notasugarhere says:

      QEII’s coronation was a public ceremony, the first televised BRF coronation. The moment of ‘consecration’ she was hidden under a fabric canopy. Otherwise all the rest of the ceremony was public.

  29. Roo says:

    I hope the Sussexes don’t go and don’t say anything until the very last minute. I think that would cause the most disruption to the money train of these idiotic “journalists.”

  30. AnneL says:

    Ephraim Hardcastle is such a Dickensian name, lol. I love it.

    Elizabeth was an attractive young woman who had to step into the role unexpectedly after becoming the daughter of a King when her Uncle abdicated. She had a dashing husband and two little children. WWII was in the near past, Churchill was still alive, and reverence for England’s traditions and symbols of power was much higher than it is now.

    Charles is Charles and his Queen is the mistress who helped destroy the fairy tale of his marriage to Princess Diana. It’s a very hard sell.

  31. Eurydice says:

    I think that if Harry and Meghan do attend the Chubbly, they will do whatever is proper for the circumstances – if that means paying homage to Charles and Camilla, they will do that.

    • Kingston says:

      Prince Harry and Meghan will not be bowing before cow milla…..neither in public nor in private.

      I take it by this comment that you havent read Spare.

  32. Pumpkin (Was Sofia) says:

    Besides Diana/Camilla and all that, Charles really doesn’t have much going for him. He’s not young or conventionally attractive so people aren’t going to watch for the reason of “oh let’s see a hot young man wear a crown”. It’s superficial and ageist I know but that’s how a lot of people see things. Just look at how many mediocre actors there are in Hollywood that aren’t great at acting but get roles/hype of social media because they’re attractive.

    He’s also not a warm father, in-law or even grandfather. I’m sure he visits the Wales kids but his PR don’t push stories that he does or try and create that “doting grandfather” image other than a handful of times. Maybe because it isn’t true or Charles doesn’t want that image, I don’t know. Or maybe his team tries and it doesn’t stick for whatever reason.

    He’s got his work like the Princes’ Trust but I don’t see him associated with that pushed regularly to the levels William and Earthshot is. And I think that’s because his PR keeps pushing Camilla or him AND Camilla that there isn’t much left to push out Charles the individual. But whatever they do push out is all about how he’s a strong leader/patriarch etc not how likeable he is as a person beyond the titles. Maybe because there isn’t much in that department so the regal/royal stuff is all he has.

  33. Normades says:

    Seniors not down with seeing the abusive former husband as king and even less seeing his adulterous side piece made queen.

    • Whyforthelove ish says:

      Right?!? How shocking. Lol actually it is the least shocking thing ever !

  34. Abby says:

    I really hope they don’t go. Charles does not deserve the Sussexes attention. Have that birthday party at Montecito and live your free lives. <3

  35. aquarius64 says:

    Charles and Camilla reputations were garbage before Spare. The Season 5 whitewash from the Crown apparently isn’t working either. Respect for the BRF died with QEII. And William is getting his karma for throwing his mother under the bus by having to bend the knee to Camilla.

  36. QuiteContrary says:

    Imagine the alternate reality, if Diana — after a long and happy marriage to a faithful and loving Charles — was to be crowned queen.

    And Diana would insist that Harry, Meghan and their children play a prominent role in the coronation. She’d probably snuggle Lili on the balcony.

    Charles is such an idiot. His jealousy, selfishness and innate cruelty have brought his current plight on him. I love to see it. #AbolishtheMonarchy

    • Tessa says:

      Charles should have gotten therapy and counseling even before he got married. He was and is egocentric and selfish. He treated Diana like a commodity, the blue blooded aristo to produce children for him while he had his “real” relationship with his mistress (Camilla) and also seeing other women on the side (e.g. Janet Jenkins). He is so bad at being a father and grandfather.

  37. Eurydice says:

    Omg, how far have we wandered from the original reason H&M left. So now, the problem isn’t the media, racism, the lack of support for Meghan by the RF, William’s rages, lack of security and Charles being an all around crappy father. Now it’s that Harry resents Camilla.

    And how will Camilla (the love of Charles’ life) gain more respect from the public if Charles is ready to throw her under the bus just to coax Harry to attend?

  38. RL McGruder says:

    “King Charles and Queen Camilla is a tricky sell. They aren’t exactly the wokest names to be aligned with”

    I don’t get this sentence. They’ve gone on and on about the dog whistle “woke” as a negative to be ridiculed at all costs, but all of a sudden…it’s good? Fashionable? Progressive? MODERN???

    • SarahCS says:

      I’m seeing it as pre-emptive – all these stars are so woke they won’t be associated with the monarchy how dare they type of thing. Lack of good traditional values, etc.

  39. Deering24 says:

    But the biggest question of all is: will there be enough bellringers? And will Barnaby and Winter have to work overtime that day protecting them anyway? 😉

  40. Jaded says:

    In this day and age of social media. Chuck and Cams can’t run away from or cover up the blatantly obvious — that they’re scheming, adulterous, underhanded, heartless and greedy. You can sprinkle gold dust on a turd, but it’s still a turd and that’s what the public is showing them, that under all the jewels and crowns, castles and palaces, and endless silly frippery around this kangaroo coronation, they’re still utterly vile and selfish people with little to no redeeming qualities. This costly and irrelevant event is going to be an epic fail.

    • Emily_C says:

      It’s what monarchy’s always been. At least Chuck can’t mass murder his own subjects any longer.

  41. Mary Pester says:

    It’s the day of the coronation, the people are lining the mall (while the toadies at the Palace are running down giving everyone a tenner each to wave the flags they have given them. As Charles and camzilla appear in their golden coach (with sponsored by cash for gold on the sides) the rear line steps forward, all wearing Diana and meghan masks! Camzilla turns to Charlie and screams (“you should have stopped this” as he shouts back “it’s all your fault anyway you silly cow”
    As they turn the corner they see Khate and Williams carriage on it’s side as a wheel has come off (bit like the coronation really), William is screaming at Khate “it’s all your fault you stupid bloody woman, I told you that wiglet and all that jewellery is to heavy for this old thing”, she is screaming back “, it’s not my wiglet or jewellery, it’s you you porky bstd, you need to loose 50 lb and I don’t mean Rose”, Charlotte has had enough and is walking off up the road towards the airport muttering “, I’ve had enough of this sht every day” I’m gone “, George is sat on the pavement asking an old lady if she can adopt him PLEASE!, Louis, seeing a mounted policeman has stopped to help his grandad, jumps on his horse and gallops up the mall screaming” I am William Wallace, FREEDOM “.
    At the Abbey, the assembled Lords and ladies are pssd as farts from their hip flasks and the choir boys, with the bell ringers are playing dungeons and dragons! The archbishop is sat on the alter steps having a crafty fag The assembled press and camera Crews are looking at each other asking” where’s the nearest pub and job centre? Just as they are packing up, camzilla appears on the steps screaming “you WILL crown me!!”, with that Louis after giving his horse back appears behind her and says “OK gan gan”, grabs the holy oil, empties it over her head and says “, job done, but you do look silly now” as he starts to swing from the bell ropes yelling ah, ah ah ah ah, I’m tarzan “. The End.”(of the whole bloomin lot of them I hope)

  42. Mslove says:

    I think the best part is Chuck is stuck with the scheming mistress, & there is nothing he can do now to rehabilitate his image. He’ll be overshadowed at his own chubbly by Cowmilla’s family. Lol.

  43. Lizzie says:

    Harry is negotiating so hard! That’s what the silence means. I see both sides, they have treated him so badly I would understand turning this down. On the other hand, this is his father and (most likely) his children’s only opportunity to be included in a coronation (pretty sure uncle Bill won’t invite them).

  44. Alice says:

    Let’s be real. The only thing that would save this coronation would be if Diana showed up and pulled a Queen Caroline, banging on the door and calling Charles out for his misdeeds.

    • Feeshalori says:

      If only, bringing the wrath of heavenly powers down upon their unworthy heads!👼

    • Tessa says:

      Diana had she lived probably would be married to her second husband, with another child or maybe two. And staying far away from Charles’ coronation.

  45. Dee Kay says:

    Today I am leaning towards thinking H&M won’t go. Harry said the ball is in his father’s court, if Charles apologizes to Meghan and sits down w Harry for an honest discussion of what happened, as Harry’s father and not as King, Harry will attend. Neither of those terms are being met. The palace is trying to offer other things (not bowing to Camilla) that Harry does not care about. Charles will never meet Harry’s demands, he doesn’t have it in him. Ergo the answer is simple: thr Sussexes will not be in attendance. I won’t watch but will listen that week for the UK media’s sobs and cries of misery that the real stars of the family didn’t show.

  46. Athena says:

    Comparing the coronation of QEII and that of KCIII is like comparing apples and oranges. The Queen’s coronation came just a few years after the end of a world war, the death of a relatively young monarch and the ascension of a young 25 year old woman to the throne, a person they watched grow up. That moment in time cannot compare to today. The coronation of a 70 something and his side piece was never going to be a joyous celebratory moment. The ghost of Diana is ever present. Charles had enough years between her death and now to come to term with Diana and he still has not. Unfortunately, Charles who waited 50+ years to get here wants a celebration and no one is brave enough to tell him that nobody cares.

    A dignified ceremony with the lords of the kingdom and a private celebratory lunch with his family and friends is all that was needed.

    For world leader meeting The Queen, who has been The Queen for everyone lifetime, meant something. There’s nothing special about meeting Charles III, he’s not views as a global statesman. Inviting foreign leaders to this was also unnecessary. I would like to see who actually shows up and who sends representatives. It must be crushing for KCIII to find out that he’s not all that.

  47. ChattyCath says:

    Now the curtain that protected them has been rent asunder with the appointment of RW journalists as Grey Men and not people from the Aristocracy (may not be Right Wing ) the Monarchy is revealed as a powerless sham, a tool of the Press Barons who actually do rule the World. My life began around the time of QE11’s coronation and she meant a great deal . She was even kind to Mum once! Everything has gone of loyalty and mystique now.

  48. Ralph says:

    I believe the lack of enthusiasm with seniors. I’m in the US but exchange letters with my 86-year old great aunt in the UK. She recently told me that she doesn’t care for Charles or Camilla, which coming from her, means she loathes them. Definitely a royalist though because she loved both the Queen and Princess Margaret and I’d talk to her about things I saw on “The Crown.” These seniors have seen his behavior over the years and are not impressed!

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Ralph, has she ever shared her opinion of W&K? It would be interesting to get a feel for what the seniors think.

  49. A says:

    You know what would provide a fantastic boost to Charles’ popularity and enduring legacy as king? If he:

    1) Apologized, SINCERELY, for the pain and grief he caused Diana as a result of his callous infidelity with Camilla. A genuine admission that he didn’t treat her with the respect she deserved, as a PERSON, much less as his wife and mother of his children. That he regrets his actions then, but he has done a lot of reflection since then, and he understands the gravity of what he did and the impact it had on everyone in his life.

    2) Reconciled, sincerely, and demonstrated that reconciliation in a public way, with Harry, Meghan AND his grandchildren.

    3) Privately expressed his pointed concern and disappointment in William for his actions towards Harry.

    4) Stopped feeding negative stories to the press about his immediate family members, hoping that throwing them under the bus will boost up his popularity with the public.

    In other words, behave and show yourself as behaving like a moral, genuine, decent person. Take ownership for the harm and pain you’ve caused others. Strive to move forward as a decent person.

    • TheWigletOfWail says:

      LOL that would never happen because they’re so stupid and arrogant. Charles got a boost in popularity for walking Meghan down the aisle, if he had supported them against the BM it would’ve increased. These dummies still believe that if H&M are unpopular with the public that automatically means people would like them.

  50. bisynaptic says:

    Why does anyone have to bow/kneel to Camilla, at the coronation? Did anyone have to do that to Philip? Do they just make sh-t up?
    —Expect another article stating that William will not be bowing to Camilla, either.

  51. PrincessOfWaffles says:

    I hope harry & meghan can read the desperation in the situation and skip the clowing all together. Let them have an trumpesque inauguration coronation style to confirm in the eyes of the people how little support Charles and Camilla actually have. Im not sure any head of state representative going would have positive reviews associating to the monarchy with all that is happening in the world. Let the RF just be curiosities of the past in this modern world without any link to government and any tax payer money. They can manage, we all do.

  52. Well Wisher says:

    The media has lost the plot, they no longer drive the narrative. There are lots of local news that do not make international news. Last week there was a huge demonstration in London about wage, food and housing insecurities, without a peek from them. The urgent reality of the population supersede the need for diversion and distraction. In an effort to control the expression of democracy the people now in power did everything to get their way by co-opting all institutions, government or otherwise – this include the monarchy.

    They’re were counting that the deference that was extended to the Queen was inheritable and is a sure thing. This is a sign that there is the monarchy and the person, in this case the person who heads it and his heir.

    Neither is prepared for’ boots on the ground democracy’ ( which is so necessary to save this country from its elites), and trying to show strength by bickering and being punitive only shows that they are unprepared to assume that seat.
    Without exception the King and heir will in time realize with the rest of us in real time that people in power do not care what their tools do, they just care when anyone try to take power away from them..
    So keep calm and carry on, while embracing mediocrity, point the finger while one is being pointed at you (king & heir);-
    ignore the of apathy of the unimpressed;
    refusal of from smaller districts spend monies to celebrate due to non-ending austerity and Brexit,
    Finally, Camilla’s ‘victory lap’ after the population who saw her as unfit never wavered despite all the pain it caused for her ‘image rehabilitation’.

    The King should listen to the population, instead of the tories, there is not enough news media to destroy the growing disaffected population, they will not get a co-reign if they refuse to be a government for all. The monarchy as an idea may endure if not the person(s).

    Being able to dominate in a fractured market is one thing, quite another when taken as an aggregate, with time and distance Harry and Meghan may or may-not have concluded that they do not have to respond to the RF mouth pieces.
    They are not a part of the equation in this new reality and this is a good thing…….
    Be above it….

    Ratcheting the noise about the coronation does nothing for no one who is secure in themselves. The polls around the death of the late Queen was conflated, as the true reality is exposed, the misinformation is a poor substitute for reality.

    Ukraine has fresh tomatoes and England did not – Why???

  53. Phaedra14 says:

    What a HOTT MESS.

  54. Bunny says:

    It all boils down to this: The monarchy in GB is teetering on the verge of collapse. When they need the approval of tabloids to continue, and when a book written by Harry is enough to make them go screaming and scrambling to the media, the party is nearly over.

    Families in England are deciding between food and heat, while Charles gives himself the over-the-top coronation he believes he deserves for waiting.

    The monarchy needs to crash and burn.

  55. Scout says:

    Charles is elevating his side-piece to the highest social status that exists. Queen of England.

    Of course he is going to be unpopular.

    As is Camilla, for agreeing to go along with that ridiculousness when she is the only one who can stop Charles from shaming a tradition his nation has honored and abided by for centuries.

    Reap what you sow.

  56. Anance says:

    “Chuckles is definitely desperate for star power at his UpChuckathon 2023. But can you negotiate disrespect when there was never respect to begin with?”

    I think they already know what H&M are planning. We already knew that Harry would be sitting somewhere inconspicuous. What they are trying to do is SPIN it so looks like he demanded it because he hates Camilla.

    Typical – another day, another spin cycle

  57. Rackel says:

    If Charles would revert back and call Camilla “princess consort” this would go better. He is trying to “flex” with Camilla but it’s not working. Instead of “oh, finally got the big job” it’s “can you believe he is doing this”.

    I went from probably only watching highlights to, maybe going to England for the atmosphere, to, I’ll watch on TV and turn when it gets to Camilla.
    Another problem is the English government are idiots at the moment. I really don’t want to spend any money with them.

  58. Mel says:

    Here’s the thing, these Snrs are of Charles and Camilla’s generation. They watched the entire Charles/Diana/Camilla spectacle go down in real time. They’re not crazy about Charles and they loathe Camilla. These are the people who lined the streets, carpeted the sidewalks outside the palace with flowers and sat outside The Abbey crying their eyes out at Diana’s funeral. Those two are either stupid or deluded if they thought that anyone would forget what happened and would care about Cams becoming the most successful side chick/jump off ever.

  59. Jeanette says:

    My guess for the low polling amongst older people, they remember Diana and most identified with her because they were closer to HER age than Charles.
    During that time HorseFace was incredibly disliked for the affair, she and Charles both.

    The North Remembers.

  60. phlyfiremama says:

    Not only have Britain’s begun to realize the monarchy is all show and no substance, they are realizing…that the show isn’t really all that good, either. #AbolishTheMonarchy

  61. Cassie says:

    So Royal journo Rob Jobson thinks they should dangle Archie off the balcony at the Coronation

    His cohorts mainly women giggled about that.

    My god that is about as low as you can go threatening the Kings 3 year old grandson.

    How the hell can these people get away wifh this shit ,it is beyond appalling.

    Surely Harry will keep away and protect his family from these despicable people .
    How on earth can Charles allow this to happen to his youngest son and beautiful family .

    I friggen hate everything those revolting people stand for .
    Archie is a beautiful little boy and doesn’t deserve to be involved in their campaign of hate .

    I have never seen anything like this abuse over the last 6 years and I will never understand why .

    • Tessa says:

      What monsters they are and Charles won’t utter a word of protest against j o b s o n talking about torment for Charles three year old grandson

    • Feeshalori says:

      How much more can these rabble rousers push the Sussexes before they say enough is enough and refuse to attend this sideshow if they haven’t already made a decision. Jobba the Hut is a miserable pile of excrement for that outrageous statement, and so are his cronies for yucking over that.

    • Beverley says:

      Just how much talk of harming Prince Archie will the RF and the British people allow? Are they really okay with the talk of harming of a 4 yr old? Are they really cool about violence toward a toddler being “joked” about? Does the British public honestly not see Meghan’s children as human? In this day and age? WTF???

    • Emily_C says:

      I’ve only seen something similar with Scientology. Which shows that, yes, the BRF/rota rats are a cult.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Jobson, was poorly attempting to make fun of Sussex fans via dangling a not yet 4 year old over a balcony. Jobson, was inciting violence towards the Sussexes and their children.

      AT NO TIME have H&M ever said anything about their children being fore font in anything regarding the Chubbly. The weave of lies by the BM/BRF. I am disgusted by that “show” and Emily A. and cohorts laughing. What the effin hell is in the batter of these people? Pancakes & fish fries know better?

  62. Canadensis says:

    A 1953 archival photo* this week of Elizabeth II The Real Queen undressed for the Sovereign anointing ceremony shows not only her simple white shift but also a sort of belted dressing gown she wore for modesty in front of the crowds in Westminster Abbey.

    Elizabeth II’s anointing outfit photos prove only the undressing and the baring of her bosom happened behind the screen, her full anointing outfit was photographed with her standing gown free and jewellery free before god and the Archbishop of Canterbury and the crowds and cameras.

    Cam is not the one and only Sovereign, was not born a Sovereign, and should not be anointed with holy oil reserved exclusively for anointing the one Sovereign born to rule.

    If that old wrinkly walrus usurps Charles’s place as the Sovereign in the holy oil anointing ceremony (downgrading Charles to be crowned as her Consort) then she will have to do it in a simple shift and dressing gown — wigless jewellery free and gown free — before god and the cameras.

    * 1953 Photo in the Daily Express March 23 2023: King Charles and Queen Camilla make secret visit for Coronation preparations

  63. kelleybelle says:

    That homewrecking racist corpse will never be a “monarch.” Please. She’s a bedhopping divorcee who had no source of income (apart from whatever divorce settlement she got from APB) without sticking to Charles throughout her life like sh*t to a blanket.

  64. BQM says:

    As far as I can tell by going down the coronation rabbit hole, it’s much fuss about nothing. I think homage is ONLY paid to the monarch, not the consort. So no one would be taking a knee to Camilla.

    Charles certainly should’ve studied the last long serving POW who followed his mother—Edward VII. He had periods of huge unpopularity over various scandals but always eventually was forgiven. But he had a very popular wife in Alexandra. And he wasn’t threatened by her! In fact, he sometimes hid behind her skirts when facing public criticism. Still, it’s the closest to a one on one comparison as Charles would get. He should’ve taken notes from that transition. (Of course, Edward almost died before he could get crowned. His illness and operation caused a smaller affair to be held in august rather than May/June.)