Prince Harry was in London for at least four full days last week. He did not see his father and if they spoke, it was only on the phone. I suspect that they didn’t even speak, and that Harry spoke to various palace courtiers about his visit. The point is that even when Harry and his father are in the same country, their relationship is utterly dysfunctional and built on institutional gaslighting. Instead of using the moment of his son’s sudden appearance to personally invite Harry to the coronation, the palace is once again left staggering through another week where the Sussexes’ Chubbly attendance or non-attendance is the story. And let me tell you, these posh dumbasses are so nervous.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry risk causing an “irreversible blow” to the royal family if they choose not to attend the King’s coronation, a royal expert claimed. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex — who received their invitations to the May 6 ceremony — are still mulling over whether or not they will make the 5,459-mile-long trip from their Montecito, Calif. home to London. If they do go, the exiled royals will be met with a “cold shoulder” from senior members of the royal family, according to a report.
Now, a royal expert has warned that by skipping the historic celebration — which coincides with Prince Archie’s 4th birthday — the exiled royals may cause a “fatal” rift with the Firm.
“In a universe in which the damage already caused by the rift is still recoverable from, at least in part, a no-show would be the fatal, irreversible blow, both in the public perception as well, potentially, as within the family itself,” public relations expert Edward Coram-James told GB News. “It risks drawing out the conflict over the long term.”
Coram-James added that if the Sussexes decide to skip the festivities, it “would draw as much, if not more, media attention. It would give further oxygen to the rift and allegations that the Sussexes have leveled at the royal family,” he told the outlet.
“And the shadow of their absence would loom large over the entire ceremony, risking becoming the elephant in the room and an unwanted sideshow.”
So we’re clear: Harry and Meghan are utterly unwelcome at the coronation and they’ll be treated like sh-t if they come and no one will speak to them because everyone hates them. Additionally, it’s incredibly important that they come because if they don’t come, their non-attendance will be the story and the family will never recover from the snub and there will be no way back for them… until the Windsors invent some new reason for what the Sussexes must come back. Am I getting this? Anyway, I have no tea leaves about this… I truly don’t know what will happen. I do love that the Sussexes still aren’t saying anything. It’s glorious.
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- King Charles, Camilla, Queen Consort, Prince William, Catherine Princess of Wales, Prince Harry and Meghan Duchess of Sussex on a walkabout to meet members of the public at Windsor Castle in Berkshire following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday. Featuring: Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: Windsor, England, United Kingdom When: 10 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- King Charles, Camilla, Queen Consort, Prince William, Catherine Princess of Wales, Prince Harry and Meghan Duchess of Sussex on a walkabout to meet members of the public at Windsor Castle in Berkshire following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday. Featuring: Prince Harry Where: Windsor, England, United Kingdom When: 10 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- King Charles, Camilla, Queen Consort, Prince William, Catherine Princess of Wales, Prince Harry and Meghan Duchess of Sussex on a walkabout to meet members of the public at Windsor Castle in Berkshire following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday. Featuring: Prince Harry, Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: Windsor, England, United Kingdom When: 10 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- Ceremonial Procession of the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall The coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, draped in the Royal Standard with the Imperial State Crown placed on top, is carried on a horse-drawn gun carriage of the King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery, during the ceremonial procession from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall, London, where it will lie in state ahead of her funeral on Monday Featuring: Prince William, Catherine Princess of Wales, Prince Harry, Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: London, Britain, United Kingdom When: 14 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- Ceremonial Procession of the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall The coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, draped in the Royal Standard with the Imperial State Crown placed on top, is carried on a horse-drawn gun carriage of the King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery, during the ceremonial procession from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall, London, where it will lie in state ahead of her funeral on Monday Featuring: Prince William, Catherine Princess of Wales, Prince Harry, Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: London, Britain, United Kingdom When: 14 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- Ceremonial Procession of the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall The coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, draped in the Royal Standard with the Imperial State Crown placed on top, is carried on a horse-drawn gun carriage of the King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery, during the ceremonial procession from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall, London, where it will lie in state ahead of her funeral on Monday Featuring: Prince Harry, Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: London, Britain, United Kingdom When: 14 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- Ceremonial Procession of the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall The coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, draped in the Royal Standard with the Imperial State Crown placed on top, is carried on a horse-drawn gun carriage of the King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery, during the ceremonial procession from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall, London, where it will lie in state ahead of her funeral on Monday Featuring: Prince Harry, Meghan Duchess of Sussex Where: London, Britain, United Kingdom When: 14 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- State Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II held at Westminster Abbey in London. Featuring: Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: London, England, United Kingdom When: 19 Sep 2022 Credit: Raphael Lafargue/ABACA/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
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- State Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II held at Westminster Abbey in London. Featuring: Prince William, Prince of Wales, Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Peter Phillips, King Charles III, Princess Anne, Princess Royal Where: London, England, United Kingdom When: 19 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
Another one?
At this point all I can see is the Knight in Monthy Python and the Holy Grail who just won’t die. Fatal blow after fatal blow. Good job they’re utterly unimportant and not wanted there isn’t it?
“It’s only a flesh wound” 🤣
We’re at dead parrot level at this point.
“King?! I didn’t vote for him!!!”
Watery bints lobbing scimitars at people…..
Honestly HONESTLY for the love of God do these people listen to themselves?! They’re inches away from just saying the quiet part out loud: “You better come and make yourselves available for our collective abuse!!!!!”
Yeah I think so too. Abusing these two in public has gotten that ghastly family more traction than years of puttering around doing nothing. They’re addicted now.
I think they are saying the quiet part out loud.
They are saying that part behind to their hand to Camilla and her flying monkeys, not realizing the Sussexes and everyone else can still hear it.
Right?!? The quiet part is pretty loud at this point. You will come let us abuse you some more or else! And the part that really got me “it risks drawing out the conflict over the long term.” Harry has been abused by these people for his ENTIRE LIFE. Meghan has been targeted by them since she dared to fall in love with their favorite victim. How are we defining long term?!? This seems pretty long term already to me. Pretty sure they can skip this shin dig and look forward to the next dramageddon these folks manufacture to try and get H&M to give them attention
yes you nailed it. they will always manufacture more dramageddon lol I love it.
Seems to me Harry and Megs are grey rocking it. May they be an example to the children of narcissists everywhere.
100%
I think Harry and Meghan are completely aware that the British media and welfare royals are never going to stop attacking them. It honestly could not be more clear.
Come over here so we can snub you properly in front of the cameras. What’s that you say? No? Well we’re really angry now
I think your comment nailed it!
They threatened and is still endangering his and his family’s safety. They never apologised n we know that because the BM is still insane. They can get dust.
They must allow the Royal family to publicly shun and abuse them, or it will be a fatal blow to the monarchy and cause a permanent rift in the family. Like…what?!!
So the RF needs to save face by publicly shaming them and they’re begging them to let them do it…or else. Appearances are everything to the RF, apparently. And abusing the people who exposed their racism, anger issues, neglect, and evil is all that matters.
I mean the rift is already pretty permanent due to the royal family’s unwillingness to apologize, so if that’s what has them awake at night i would say it’s too late
@ Chloe, I agree! And yet we are supposed to believe that constant dribbling of how important it is for Harry and Meghan to attend the Chubbly is the cornerstone of what constitutes as the “fatal and irreversible blow”???
Not the continuous articles of how they will be SNUBBED at the Con-A-Nation? Or that Charles has evicted them from FC? Or that Chucky and the Rottweiler didn’t attend Lili’s christening?? Or that Chucky is “never” available to meet with his son?
Chucky needs to grow up and take responsibility for his own actions for the fatal and irreversible blow that HE has caused, and HE alone…..
Agreed. There is a stone tablet somewhere in England that someone is chipping away at, itemizing all of Harry and Meghan’s transgressions.
It’s permanent, you idiots.
So Charles constantly snubbing PH when he is in the same country is not a fatal blow? And Charles snubbing Lili’s christening is not a fatal blow? Because no responsibility at all for maintaining a relationship with his son and family is on KC?
But but but it’s perfectly acceptable for Charles to ignore Harry because he married a black American!! And for that he must be punished forever!!
Yes, because Camilla has decided it will be so.
Camilla guides Charles on how to treat and react to Harry and Meghan; she doesn’t want to be upstaged by anyone associated with Diana, least of all her spare, who is her whipping boy.
They are emotionally underdeveloped and stunted, with no emotional intelligence to speak of. The Queen had some — not enough, or else she would have raised her children differently. They are incapable of contributing anything of value to the 21st Century and are painfully irrelevant. Actually, they are toxic.
Charles makes his own decisions.
While I’m sure Camilla has her own levers she pulls with Charles, I don’t think Charles needs any help finding justification to throw his son under the bus to soothe his own ego or to “protect the Crown.” Let’s not let him off the hook here.
I think Charles hates Meghan because she is an American. Americans represent everything that terrifies the monarchy. (I’m not convinced Charles himself cares about her being part black. I bet Camilla and Kate hate having anyone in the family who isn’t bright white and thoroughly British though. They give off huge racist/snob vibes.)
This shows that the Palace and press are very nervous that Harry and Meghan won’t be at the coronation and I love it. Charles wants Harry and Meghan there so he can ill-treat them and for that reason alone they shouldn’t go.
As much as I feel for the continued drama H&M have to deal with from the BM and their families, I am indeed loving the journey of hysteria the Rota and Palaces are taking as the realize they have no control over H&M and never will again
I wouldn’t be surprised if the next batch of press about H & M simply says:
Hello? HELLO???? Answer me, young man! I mean it!
An “irreversible blow” to the Royal Family? That ship left port years ago. The Royal Family already blows.
“The Royal Family already blows.”
Best comment on here today!
They are better people than me, because I’d organize a pap walk at the airport on May 3. I’d organize a pap walk at Frogmore so everyone thinks we are coming. And then I’d throw a birthday party with Elton attending at Althrope and sell the pictures to People.
Absolutely this 😂
I wish this was the plan!
Don’t know about that. That would be giving the paps and BM exactly what they want and it would make them tons of money.
Nope, no money to be made by the paps because H&M can copyright their photos (the way Keen does hers) and the media would have to buy the rights to publish each image.
Now @tamsin, you’ve seen this drama play out long enough to know that whatever the Sussexes do, the BM will make them an integral part of the Cona-nation story. The reporter above wrote that, if the Sussexes don’t come, it would draw as much as if not more attention from the Chubbly (if you can imagine that). The BM absolutely plans to discuss them, whether they go or not. Incredible. I agree with the person who said that the BM’s continued fretting about whether they will go or not is delicious to see. I hope that they ultimately stay away from this nonsense but the breakdown in sanity and reason with the RF and RR is fascinating to see. (It’s their decision though and I know that.).
Off topic, but I love Meghan’s stark look at the funeral. To this day, that is one of my favorite hats she’s worn, and I also love the unadorned coat, and if that was me, I’d make it into my driver’s license photo. That’s how much I love it.
Come to the chubbly and let us abuse you or we will never speak to you again. You will be out. The crap is never ending.
I’m amazed Kate & company can’t smile and make nice in public with the Sussexes. Especially since the Windsors are, with few exceptions, horrid looking. When they glare at the Sussexes, it’s scary. Camilla, in particular, looks like the Evil Queen in Snow White. Kate and Sophie, like the jealous, shrewish sisters in Cinderella.
These same Windsors can smile at their husband’s mistresses in public. The aggrieved husbands of said mistresses even get cushy jobs.
And we know that they can certainly smile at dictators and potentates.
Were they even invited? Their statement said correspondence so I’m wondering if something is going on. I hope they don’t come but feel they will if invited. I don’t know why they would bother since they will receive so much abuse from the courtiers, press, and some family members. Especially since it’s for a few hour event.
I agree. Were they invited? And I agree that if someone bothered to truly invite them, that they would likely attend. But you don’t RSVP to a party you weren’t invited to.
I think they were sent a “save the date” email. No word on a physical invitation which I assume will be necessary for entry.
They have saved the date. It’s their son’s birthday.
See ya, Grandpa!
One of the insane RR’s insinuated Harry or Meghan would try to sell an actual invitation online.
Physical invites are only going out “in two weeks” (per the papers).
So they actually have not gotten an invite.
I still maintain that H&M should issue a Starement of their decline of the “invitation” explaining that they’ve chosen to do their part in acknowledging the pared-down nature of the event by offering their seats to 2 deserving “peers of the realm” who are already in the UK (and therefore don’t hv to fly 5K miles to attend a 2hr service) and who wd hv been invited ordinarily.
Love this idea. They could also add that they are donating the cost of the airfares to a charity of their choice and doing their part to conserve the environment. If they really wanted to rub it in they could donate to Earthshot…
Better yet, donate airfare cost to one of Earthshot’s prize winners ✈️ 😇
Harry have a court case starting the May 9, so he is going to be in England.
Not necessarily. The con a nation is May 6. The court case *starts* May 9. He may not need to be in the country on that date, I doubt he’ll attend the whole trial. And he can always fly out May 8.
I REALLY need people to stop making the assumption that Harry is going to be there Day 1 of the trial and will show up every day for the SEVEN WEEK trial and that his witness testimony will be on the first day.
Harry is not going to waste SEVEN weeks of his life on this. He’s not going to drag his wife and kids to be with him in the UK to attend every day of this trial. Nor will he leave them in the US for the duration of the trial. That would be pure torture.
When he gives his testimony, it will only be for a day or two and then he will get back to his very busy life. And I’m still not 100% certain he will be physically present. That’s another assumption people have made. His lawyers never confirmed he would physically be there, the Byline Times article made a deduction that he could be there. No one on his camp said he would.
I think Harry is going to testify in person. If he flew to London for 4 days for the start of a (different) trial when he was not even testifying yet, I think its really likely he’s going to testify in person in this trial.
But, agreed it won’t be on day 1. Maybe his testimony will coincide with the Trooping and the RRS can screech about that LOL.
@Snuffles I kind of agree with you. Harry might have been given sworn deposition/recorded testimony on the days he didn’t attend the hearing. (Not a legal scholar, have no idea how that would work.)
On the other hand, if he wants world press to cover it, he will show up to the trial in person to testify. Which I think ultimately is what he’ll do. Because if he’s not there, the British tabloids will be able to lie about what’s going on with no external check.
His barrister has said they are not applying for any of the claimants to give their evidence by live link? That is not an assumption that is what his barrister said. Prince Harry is a claimant. The conclusion that he is going to be there in person is valid. And claimants usually are the first to give evidence in civil cases at least in the UK. As far as I know there is no provision for witnesses in a UK civil trial to pre record their testimony but I might be wrong, what I feel almost certain is that the Defence would have to agree to that and I feel like they wouldn’t here?
But the main point is as you have said, Prince Harry would appear in person because he wants to draw the eyes of the world’s (if not the UK’s) media to this event. Thats also the reason why he might stay for quite a long time, this is a very big deal for him and I dont think there is a conflict here with his life as he has pretty much declared taking on the British Media his life’s work?
Who knows how far into the trial he will be needed though, probably not for weeks and because they will be doing legal arguments and other preliminary stuff…
Where did his barrister go on record with info about no virtual testimony, because I’m finding no record of it. We don’t know if Harry will show up in person, we don’t know when he will be called in this lengthy trial.
I doubt he’d move to the UK indefinitely for this trial. Harry has a job, a real job that requires him to work AND likely provides the health care benefits for himself and his family. That job may be part of his visa application, which also indicates he wouldn’t be outside the US for lengthy periods. IF he appears in person, it would be limited and his stay in the UK would be no more than a few days.
IMO any in-person attendance may depend on the still-pending RAVEC sh!tshow AND whether or not there were any security issues last week. When he attended WellChild and/or the Diana statue unveiling, his car was chased by paps. If anything like that happened last week, that will impact his decisions moving forward.
Agree @Kingston. I’ll go further and say a statement from Harry should be more direct.
Something like:
As much as we would love to attend my father’s Chubbly, out of respect for him, we will not be attending. We have shared our thoughts, support and love to him privately. Unfortunately, the British Media has made it more about our attendance instead of my father’s coronation. I’m removing myself, my wife and children from the event so the media can focus on my father and the others. If the British (or other) Media chooses to focus on our absence rather than my father’s historical event, is not my problem. I didn’t make it so. You motherf*ckers should be able to not talk about me, my wife or children for one f*ckin’ day.
p.s. Robert Jobson joking about dangling my son over the balcony wasn’t funny-to normal people-at least.
p.s.s. Iceland seats sound excellent. It’s a country that is family friendly. A perfect place to celebrate Archie’s birthday. We picked out a restaurant for seating already. Thanks for the suggestion. https://oldiceland.is/menu/
I was with you thinking “oh this could work” until the sentence after “I didn’t make it so.” And then I promptly lost it!🤣
Anyway, I REALLLLLY want the US press and maybe the press of other countries to write articles on the derangement of the UK press. I mean that last one about Biden….other countries with real journalists should have been calling them out for that especially in light of this court case. I’m mad it hasn’t been done already.😕
Irreversible blow. Meaning what? Harry’s dad will never speak to him again? It’s not like he’s speaking to him now. As far as we can tell anyways.
I kind of think this is aimed at the royal family more than H&M. Like, I think the press is telling the BRF that H&M need to be there at all costs. charles needs to do whatever he needs to do to get them there. The press can write endless stories if they don’t show up, but they’ll get more stories and better stories (and pictures!) if they DO show up. the press knows no one really cares about this Chubbly. People may tune in to see what Kate is wearing or the arrivals in general and that’s probably about it.
H&M’s presence is the thing that will make this event interesting and the press desperately wants them there.
I think W wants them there so he can try to embarrass them and snub them publicly again. I think Charles is torn – I think he wants them there so he can put them in their place like William wants, but I also think he knows he needs them there for the attention, AND I think he does realize on some level what a bad look it is for him as king to not have the support of his son. That’s why we’ve also gotten those stories about how Charles loves harry and of course wants him there.
(I would say if he loved him so much he would have seen him last week but what do I know?)
But the press 100% wants/needs them there.
@Becks: The Palace needs to stop briefing that Charles loves Harry because his actions say otherwise.
Agreed. A loving father would have hightailed it to Frogmore or London last week to see his son who lives in another country.
(and that’s just the most recent example!)
@Becks1 you are right that the Chubbly ceremony will be deadly dull with no Sussexes. Without them, I’m only interested to see how many camera shots Rose Hanbury is featured in, and whether or not the BBC announcers will inexplicably fall mute the moment she appears on screen, like they did at Betty’s funeral. What will Rose wear and will Camilla seat her directly in Kate’s line of vision?
@Harper — you’ve touched on an interesting topic. Rose’s husband Lord Cholmondeley has been given the role of Chuck’s new Permanent Secretary and Lord in Waiting. This must make Peggy a bit discomfited unless it’s a deliberate move to shut down his *alleged* affair with Rose. Maybe it’s putting Pegs in his place and warning him that this affair situation has to stop. The irony is Chuck had mistresses all throughout his marriage and now he’s trying to shut Peggy’s down?
Or Charles isn’t trying to shut Billy and Rose down. He’s saying, I know you cheat regularly and I’m not exiling the Cholmondeley family from royal society to please you or your lazy wife.
Charles never wanted Kate in the family, he’s never liked the Midds and their grasping behavior. He’d by happy if William divorced Kate, and *not only* because it makes him and Camilla look better.
To add, I doubt William wants Rose and David sidelined either. The only people displeased by the Rose/William relationship are Kate and Carol(E), and neither of them matters to Charles, Camilla, or William.
Agree 100%. Charles loves Charles and Camilla or at least the idea of her. That is it
@Jaded I agree with Nota. I think he’s given the Cholmondelys a prominent position again because he probably likes David, he’s from an old prominent aristocratic family, etc – and I think he’s basically saying to Kate, I don’t care if this bothers you. Kate tried to cut Rose out of the Turnip Toffs and she failed, and now Charles is like “heyyyyy lets keep you all in the royal loop until you’re GLC again!”
I agree, that they want them there, just to snub them and show public disdain.
@becks1 Exactly THIS. If there is no Harry and Megan, the international press — especially the American outlets are not going to be as interested. In Canada, there should be more coverage due to Canada’s relationship — but there probably isn’t a whole lot of interest for 24/7 coverage like there was for Harry and Meg’s wedding in the US.
I agree this is beyond mental!
If you come you will be seated “in Iceland”, you will be shunned , no one will talk to you, no one wants you there.. but you must come or else we will be very very very angry and the consequences to you will be dire!!
If they don’t attend the headlines will be all about them, Harry and Meghan did not attend the chubby .. bad bad bad!!
If they do attend …. it will be “hypocrites attend the chubby, look how everyone snubbed them, look they wore clothes, they tried to overshadow the king! Their clothes were too nice! Or their clothes were too plain, they didn’t show the proper respect to the King!! If They talked to otjer guests.. it will be H&;M try desperately to ingratiate themselves… if they don’t then another negative story how they are hated and shunned, (sigh) ..if it were me , I wouldn’t go, esp on my sons birthday, but I support whatever decision they make, they are between a rock and a hard place 🙁
@EasternViolet, the American press already has something in the cards that day.
It’s why the BRF/BM need H&M to be at the Chubbly. I get it. I’ve drone on and on about the Kentucky Derby being the same day. It is a big deal. The Derby has big viewership numbers every year. During Covid, horse racing gained a lot more numbers of viewers/participants. Count Chuckula’s coronation is a blip on the screen. Even if the international contenders don’t make it.
https://paulickreport.com/news/triple-crown/road-to-the-kentucky-derby-three-potential-international-contenders-raise-points-threshold-for-2023-edition/
No one is that interested in Chuck’s horse being crowned that day or annointed with holy oil. Americans will be watching what beautiful thoroughbred wins the ‘fastest 2 minutes in sports’ day of racing.imo
Derby coverage starts pretty early in the day. The Chubbly will get some coverage. Mint juleps will probably get more coverage.
Agree with your synopsis with this theory @ Becks1!!! The RR’s are desperate for actual in-person coverage as they have all been denied access for the past three years, except for consistent invasions in Montecito, along with the constant invasions of Archewell and all of the encompassing business adventures.
Harry and Meghan are what sells in Britain and they know it. But they sank that ship as soon as Meghan entered into the picture. They facilitated in Harry and Meghan leaving Salty Island and they simply can’t handle not having access nor the opportunity to level the playing field.
You can tell they are desperate because Louis has been invited.
LOL! Truth!
“AND I think he does realize on some level what a bad look it is for him as king to not have the support of his son. ”
I 100% agree with you on this, Becks1. I think Charles interest in having Harry there is that if he’s not it makes him look bad. He is unconcerned about the status of their relationship or reconciliation. I think he cares for Harry to the degree that he sees him as an extension of himself and that’s it. But he’s not the heir so he’s not a priority and he’s king now so it’s all about optics. I also think H knows this and perhaps he’s holding out for his asks when setting boundaries -an apology….which may not be forthcoming.
Personally, I would prefer they didn’t go for 2 reasons: 1-I fear for their lives and the danger they may be placed in and 2-it’s Archie’s birthday, they kinda have an out.🤷🏾♀️
Why do the Sussexes have to do all the heavy lifting in this family relationship? KC3 took their one secure home in the UK away from them. That suggests the welcome mat has been firmly withdrawn until Harry’s father or brother starts talking with Harry directly about their relationship.
Agreed. They had their secure home taken away after putting in money to bring it up to structural code and livable standards. But Chuck loves his son and wants him to attend.
Toxic love?
“Whatever love is”, apparently this is Charles’s emotional range with regards to those that he supposedly loves and has no use for. KC3 only has an actual devotion to his being king, Cruella and HER children and grandchildren.
In the famous interview Charles said “whatever IN LOVE means”.
Because Harry is “The Spare”. Imagine having a lifetime of this.
Exactly. If Charles really wanted Harry to be at the coronation he wouldn’t have taken away Frogmore. There’s only so much abuse a person can take.
“Why do the Sussexes have to do all the heavy lifting in this family relationship?” Because the “king” is weak. Charles has no spine, no character, nothing. Remember that article that said Charles’ gets irritated if even his opinion gets challenged? Imagine being that insecure. How easily manipulated he must be.
William has no spine or character either, but I don’t think we should underestimate the power of their stubbornness & determination to get what they want at the expense of anyone else.
My father was that way.
And it is an extremely toxic way to grow up. Always walking on eggshells, waiting for the next explosion.
I sincerely hope Harry and Meg stay home, celebrating their love and Archie’s birthday with their real family. Not the people who only want them around to use and abuse them.
Give it up. If life went on without Harry, they wouldn’t be begging for his attendance at the Chubbly, and they’d stay out of Harry and Meghan’s business altogether. Chuck and Pegging of Wales need the star power of the people they hate for their little sad crown party where a petty tyrant and his favorite mistress claim to be anointed by god to rule and become the head of a church.
Amen.
They will be castigated whatever they do.
I reckon they will probably go to the ceremony in really drab coloured but perfect outfits and then skip the silly party afterwards and head straight home.
Their particularly low level of investment in this mirrors a lot of the rest of us here in the UK.
None of us can be arsed.
I hope you all enjoy a lovely day off work!
You must come so we can further abuse you! That oughta work. 🤔
The thing is, they really want (aka need) thr Sussex to come. What do you mean they prelared months of ‘cold shoulders’ behaviour for nothing?
They desperately want to show themselves snubbing them. Lol, this is pathetic and hilarious.
They have to go or they will seem petty. Even though at this point they wouldn’t be. They just aren’t negotiating against themselves and waiting for the logistics to be worked out in a way that is worth it for them to go.
The bf is phasing Kate out, she is going to get all the blame for this one. They can’t blame William. They are stuck with him. And spare revealed how they were playing both sides to camilla. So I’m sure she wants someone’s head.
Party pieces being sold. Adelaide is to keep a close eye on her. They don’t want her in a tiara since she is going to be gone. They don’t want her at the after party…because she is going to be gone. She doesn’t need a secretary…because she…is…gone.
Charles and camilla chose the wrong couple to back up. They would have already pivoted if it wasn’t for the rest of the family threatening to talk if they don’t get their money and titles.
It’s like a corporation. An exec has to take the blame. Its either Kate or Camilla. And if it wasn’t Camilla at this point. It’s never gonna be.
Everything is about the coronation right now. After that, members of the RF better watch their necks.
@JTTrain- I think the only people who would view H&M as petty for not going to the coronation and subjecting themselves to even worse public treatment than QE’s funeral (the funeral abuse was still subdued b/c of the necessary quiet, somber tone, i think at the coronation it would be ON), are the types who eat up everything the Fail writes about them. Royalist and various jealous, racist types. And who cares what they think.
Besides that, I agree with everything you’ve said.
They do not have to go. They will not seem petty for skipping this nonsense at all.
I actually think going will be more damaging to them long term as a brand vs not going. For a lot of the casual audience, what they hear is “Harry and Meghan want to be royal without doing the work of a royal. They want attention but not the cost!!!” Now, even these people, who see the racism, still believe this to a certain extent. (Because they’re mostly white and white people love to discount or dismiss racism.)
What that means practically is every time Harry and Meghan engage in a royal event, even at diminished capacity, they look like hypocrites to the casual audience. “If it’s so bad why go back to them at all!! You must have been exaggerating!!)
On some level, the royalists, especially the reporters, know this too. That’s why they keep arguing for the “family” reasons Harry and Meghan should attend, even though they insist the two are famewh*res (which they clearly are not.) And even in those scenarios, they are painting pictures of endless snubs directed at the two.
This is a longwinded way of saying I don’t think it’s good for Brand Sussex or Family Sussex for Harry and Meghan to attend. But they’ll probably go anyway, because I don’t think Harry has fully realized how little his family actually loves him. It’s too painful to process. Meghan knows, but is giving him grace. (I still don’t think his healing should involve as much of her suffering as it has until this point, but that’s the case for more hetero couples, unfortunately.)
@ teecee, I disagree with you. I don’t think that Harry and Meghan attendance will hurt their brand in the slightest. We have all seen how much Harry has grown since leaving the Island of Petty and Jealous.
Harry and Meghan have been able to create and produce successful businesses without any backlash or any possibility of detriment. On top of the fact that this is his own personal life, not a single bit of his business life. Corporations don’t care one iota of his personal life only that Harry and Meghan can bring to the table tangible and meaningful exposure and profits to the corporate world.
I don’t get why somebody has to be sacrificed and why it has to be a woman. Help it make sense.
Harry and Meghan should avoid the wails if they.go. no surprise
Visits from bill. Kate in one of the funeral photos looks.like she’s smirking.
I absolutely love the power that Harry and Meghan have to either make or break this coronation ceremony! I’m loving that fate of the most well known and powerful monarchies in the world solely rests on 2 people who live 1000s of miles away, in a completely different country. As I’ve said before, if the British monarchy can be “overshadowed” by 2 people in another country then it’s really not much of a monarchy is it?
@Harla- too true!! How weak and fragile IS the current monarchy, when the two people they drove out are the only ones who can save it all??
Also, I get the impression that every frivolous, NOT crucial, extra expense that we keep hearing about (8 million for KC portraits, bleachers for the coronation, etc etc) is each another nail in Charles’ coffin. He is not loved. The people don’t want/don’t care about some big pomp-filled coronation. He is beyond tone deaf, and I think this vulgar display of excess could be what turn the citizens of the UK against him once and for all. Or at the very least, it will mark the beginning of the end for Charles.
Okay, so let me get this straight. If the Sussexes do go to the coronation, they’ll be intentionally punished and abused, plus they’ll be thrown to the wolves (I.e. the press) and they’ll have to postpone and/or ignore their own kid’s birthday.
If they don’t go, they’ll be punished by… never being invited to one of these royal family events where they get abused/thrown to the wolves ever again? Oh, and they’ll get to celebrate their kid’s birthday on their ACTUAL birthday? Yeah, this one’s a no brainer if I’m Meghan or Harry, obviously.
Also, I call bluff on the BRF ever cutting them out fully. They’re too popular and too charismatic for the press to just ignore now; whether you love or hate them, they sell papers, which means every editor in the UK is going to want their royal reporters covering something Sussex related, even if it’s a slam piece. Even this coronation—most of the coverage is about whether or not the Sussexes are coming, not KC or PW.
The BRF is trying SO HARD to make it look like they dumped the Sussexes and have control over them, when it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain and eyes that the BRF NEEDS the Sussexes around, not the other way around. If the BRF cuts them out fully, who else can they feed to the press to distract from Charles’ shady financial deals, Willy’s extramarital affairs, Kate’s lack of work ethic, and Andrew’s rapist past?
All this is is an empty threat from them and I’m sure the Sussexes know that too. All these idle threats and the hostile media coverage is just a cover: the BRF is practically begging for them to come to this, because if they don’t, it just exposes how impotent and NOT all-important they actually are.
I agree, I think the Sussexes have put a lot of work into doing what’s best for their mental health and their kids, and the safety of their family and not letting palace/media threats dictate their lives. I don’t think they are basing their decision on fear of how they will be perceived or whether they will be forgiven (for saying the truth). I’d be shocked if they go or he goes alone and misses celebrating their son’s birthday. It just doesn’t fit with everything they’ve shown us and told us about themselves.
Everything the Sussexes do is a fatal blow to the monarchy…until the next time. The Oprah interview, the Netflix series, Spare. How many times did we hear that those things have caused “no way back for the Sussexes” or permanently ruined the relationships or meant the Sussexes would never be invited to any future royal events. The idiot courtiers and their rota stenographers have played this tune a million times before. They’re like a broken record!
And they just cannot help themselves! They can’t keep it together for one single article. In one paragraph, they say how badly they’ll abuse Harry and Meghan and then in the next, they beg them to come (because they know no one cares about the king and his heir). Their stupidity is just hilarious at this point.
My guess is that the Sussexes have already declined the invitation and this is the palace in full freakout mode. They now know that the public doesn’t want this Chubbly with its empty bleachers and overpriced portraits, no one cares about Chuckles and his vile mistress queen. And the two “young” and “glamorous” royals look like pieces of week-old fish left in the sun – wrinkled and spoiled and their relationship stinks to high heaven. So even the “young” ones aren’t going to draw the international attention and sparkle and interest that only Harry and Meghan bring. The palace knows they’ve overplayed their hand and are PANICKING because Harry already said, no, we will not come to be abused.
If only these “blows” were fatal to the monarchy.
I’ve been wondering, too, if H&M have already said nope, and this is the palace trying to guilt them into reconsidering.
In any case, the fact that H&M hold all the power should teach the palace something. But it won’t.
“With little notice, my ex threw me out of our home that I renovated and invested a lot of personal money and passion into and refused to reimburse me a dime, hired people to write things about me and my children that he knew would cause people to constantly threaten my life and the lives of my children until I almost had a nervous breakdown, caused me to seriously consider that every space I spent time in was bugged and/or dangerous, called my children names and looked away when people gleefully wished for their demise, publicly blamed me for his cheating on his new fiance, and refuses to pay child support. He invited me to his wedding and tells everyone that if I don’t show up, it will be embarrassing and look like we’re not a unified family, but also, his mom hates my guts and will probably stare at me with disgust the entire time, and his uncle is super pervy. Also, immediately
after the wedding I have to clear out the last of my belongings from my former home and be gone.” No one would ever advise someone to attend that wedding.
That’s a good analogy. I get tired of the BM constantly calling it ‘allegations’ Harry ‘threw’ at his family. He told his truth straight from his mouth, and last time I looked no one from that Island denied ANYTHING. Just made excuses to why they may have acted a certain way towards him. Nothing was disputed because it is all true and Harry has proof.
What if–hear me out–somewhere along the line Harry and Chuckles did talk and a deal was brokered: Harry said “we will attend IF AND ONLY IF no one leaks our plans to the press. The moment we hear a confirmation from the palace that we will attend, our attendance will be publicly cancelled.”
It could be a test for Chuckles to see if he can keep his ugly mouth shut. If he passes, his son and daughter in law show up for him. If he fails, he fails. Chuck would also not be able to tell any of the family leakers IF he wanted to guarantee their attendance. A simple task, an act of faith.
I doubt if Crocmilla would keep any deal like that, her “lover” in this relationship is the press. She would never keep anything that big from them plus she hates Harry even more now. And Charles wouldn’t keep anything from Crocmilla either.
Of course, the years of abuse and racism the BRF & UK media heaped upon H, M and their children do not constitute an irreversible blow. Also, eviction, cutting off security, gaslighting, withholding titles, refusing to meet/visit, cutting off communication, ignoring important life events. None of that is an irreversible blow.
Harry&Meghan attended the Jubilee because the Queen personally invited them.
If Charles does not I understand if they don’t attend.
I think Charles loves his son & wants Harry there. I also think William is so jealous of Harry that he would make his father’s life hell if Harry attended. Camilla will be wanting payback for the comments about her & will continue to brief the Press a different threat each day of the week.
Instead of failing, Harry & Meghan – especially- are thriving; winning accolades & awards, keeping them in the news. The UK hate people winning awards, so the Press will have the knives out.
I think Harry will attend because he believes in the Monarchy & still sees himself as part of it. I also think they will avoid everything but the actual ceremony, keeping out of public view & Harry has now learned how that can be done. Then Meghan will go home to accept her award.
Charles does not love Harry. Charles does not care about anyone but himself in the tiniest iota, but even then it’s not self-love — narcissists are deeply ashamed and self-hating.
PH believed that the monarchy could be a force for good. Since that time he has likely gone through more cult deprogramming and counseling. He might not still feel that way. People’s beliefs do change. If he goes it will more likely be because he still sees a way to have a relationship with his father.
I think he believes in that potential.He probably likes to think about all the good he and Meghan could do if they were still there. But what he has yet to accept that these people have zero interest in actually being a force for good, and all that duty and service is a smoke screen to cover up they fact they are only in it to enrich themselves. Even if they do occasionally do some good, it’s merely a fraction of what they do for themselves in the shadows.
A force for good, and I am sure many believe it to be an instrument for charitable ventures. Hahahahaha! That’s a joke right. The biggest con ever sold to the plebeians.
Sometimes I wonder if the RF already knows that HM will not be attending and they’re trying to make them change their minds.
Geez. The language is so extreme all the time- “final straw”, “burnt bridges”, “torpedoes”, “fatal blow”, and all directed at the Sussexes. And of course the BRF dare not call off the attack dogs, leaving them to damn near cause an diplomatic incident (see Sad little man on twitter).
This whole thing is already such a clown show and to continuously subject your child and his family to this without any kind of pushback, but expect them to grateful for the abuse says a whole lot about KCIII and the whole damn institution.
The language they use is always so violent that it’s disturbing. Everything was a “truth bomb,” etc. Really unnerving when you think about it.
I forgot about the “truth bombs”. All this language aimed to rile up an already bigoted and violent base even further. Then if something DOES happen to H&M or the children, they can then blame H&M for leaving the “security of the family” and milk stories about them for decades. Just as they do for Diana.
So the “working” royals are counting this as “work”, right?
I would like the Sussexes to send a representative to the clowning and on the day of, we get a picture of Harry and Dark Brandon riding their bikes at Camp David.
Or of Eugenie, the Spencer aunts, Tiggy, and whomever else might be possible godparents arriving in California for Archie’s bday party in Montecito.
The royals and the media need to get their messages in line. This whole drama makes both the media and the royals look ridiculous. We don’t want them there, but they have to come anyway? Come to this idiotic event or we’ll never speak to you again? Meghan’s probably thinking, “you promise? okay then!”
If they truly need the Sussexes there, then they should be making nice, making friendly overtures, sending then a damn invite, organizing a separate entrance (it’s not like they don’t have the Queen’s precedent from the Jubbly). They would likely come. But there’s nothing either the media or the royal family can “threaten” to make them show. The royals and the media have shat the bed on this one. I still think H and M should do a video greeting to the royals with Doria and the kids, “Sorry we won’t be there–we couldn’t make the security arrangements work, security I (Harry) was willing to pay for.” Meghan, “Happy coronation to their Majesties King Charles 3 and Queen Camilla” kids: “Happy coronation grandpa!”
Expecting them to show up in sackcloth and ashes, with flagellation whips is ridiculous. Any ill treatment of them would reflect badly on the royals anyway (and would look hella racist, anyway–even though I giggle at the thought of the 4 of them showing up to the Chubbly in sackcloth. Meghan would still look chic, and the kids would probably look adorable even with smudges on their cheeks!). Hey British satirists–I just gave you a great skit idea!
So if their coms teams are worth 2 pence, they need to sit the royals down and say: this is our message. We will stick to it. Call off the rabid rota dogs. Or put them out of their misery by handing them pink slips. We welcome our son, brother, daughter in law, sister in law, niece and nephew, grandchildren. We know they are lying through their teeth. But this is their chance to look regal and magnanimous. This event will set the stage for the rest of Charles’s reign. He needs to get it right.
I have now come to the conclusion that they do want them there, just to demean them. The message is consistent. It’s like a toxic parent yelling at a naughty child, ordering it to come here, for it’s punishment. It’s all done with a mean spirit, not a spirit of love. They are demanding that they come, and promising they will be appropriately punished.
Agreed. Charles wants them there because it looks awful on the global stage if they do not attend.
William wants them there to ensure they are mistreated and belittled publicly by the ‘working royals’.
The RRs desperately want them there so every boo, thrown egg, and protest sign can be falsely blamed on Harry and Meghan’s presence.
“And let me tell you, these posh dumbasses are so nervous.” Yes. This is all so pathetic and hilarious.
This stumbling and bumbling these racist do for a couple that they do not like is hilarious.
Lol, they are screaming from the rooftops at Harry “Get your ass OVER here right away. You will be snubbed and placed in the back seats way behind the Parker Bowles, because that is the punishment you deserve for disrespecting your King, his darling consort and your brother. You will bend the knee before my wife. How DARE you call your brother ugly, and tell the world he called you Harold. I order you to come to the land of your birth you lowlife non-working royal.”
Ugh.
‘they have leveled at the royal family”… yep, a long time ago. FAFO 24/7 This is the 21st century, anyone can.
I personally do not have a strong opinion on whether or not they should go. It’s their (well Harry’s really) family and for them to decide on what they want to do. I may disagree with it but I can also accept that they have made a decision that is best for them.
This isn’t just about Harry and Meghan’s star power. Charles is unpopular and he’s elevating to Queen one of the great homewreckers of the 20th century. He wants to make a global show of what a family man he is and to have all the “blended family” together. How he thinks this would happen without any behind the scenes work on his part is anybody’s guess.
20th and 21st. Her work is not done.
I am already dreading how much the press is going to continue to do the “Will they or won’t they be there?!! What a fatal snub!” for EVERY goddamn event going forward. Trooping every year, Charles’s 75th birthday, probably Christmases, etc.
It is already so tiresome, but it’s all they’ve got left at this point, and they know they must keep writing about the Sussexes if they want anyone to read their crap. It’s going to be like Groundhog Day with this nonsense over and over and over again. As soon as the Coronation is done with, they’ll probably start this inane, exhausting guessing game with Trooping 2023.
The only “will they or won’t they be there?” I am interested in hearing about is for Charles funeral. Will Harry attend his fathers funeral? Will his brother even invite him to their fathers funeral?
Does one need an invitation to attend their own father’s funeral?
The Sussexes should announce the week of Con-a-Nation they are not coming and BP was informed soon after they got the email. The BM will be mad for looking stupid for ginning up the stories.
This would be awesome – but would the minions at the palace be able to keep their mouths shut for so long?
It really is kind of insane that we are a month out from the King’s coronation and no one knows if both of his sons will be there. This is a huge failure on the part of Charles and his courtiers. Whether or not he wants a real reconciliation with his son(i doubt it) he should’ve made sure to do what he needed to do to get Harry to confirm weeks ago instead of letting all the coverage of his coronation be guesswork on what Harry will do and constant new stories on which new high profile person will not be attending his coronation or performing at his concert.
A good start would’ve been personally inviting Harry and not evicting his son and his son’s family from the house his son paid millions to renovate but i digress. Also: did they not give them a date to rsvp? Because if not i wouldn’t be surprised at this point if the Sussexes just never respond and don’t go or just wait to the very last to confirm they will be going so there’s less time for the media to pile on whatever their decision is before the actual event.
Sooo, it would seem that Harry is more important than the king, more important than camzilla, more important than ANY of them, because the coronation is about HARRY AND MEGHAN’S attendance 🤔fatal blow, irreversible damage, TO WHO? ANDREW delivered that surely? Or was it Sophie and the fake Sheik, or Edwards business that went bust owing millions, soooo many blows on a coronation that sucks!! Look Charlie we know your as boring as yesterday’s news (,because that’s what you are, you have been king since last September)! We know that Megan makes Khate look like a dowdy hausefrau (even though she probably doesn’t know what house work is) we know that Harry looks more like a king than you and William ever will, (because the fact that he cares about people shines through) and your second hand wife, looks like a second hand wife (or a scrotum in a wig) take your choice. Harry doesn’t need any of you, but by christ you need him and it’s showing. Let’s face it you NEED Harry and Megan to be there or all you and your tame media press have is a boring day, put on by boring people. Me, I hope Harry doesn’t go, but if he does, the viewing figures will go up! Final question Charlie, do you want your eggs scrambled or fried lol
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If the Sussexes do show up for even a small portion of the UpChuck-athon, it’ll be a pyrrhic victory for the BRF. They’ll only show their worst sides — ignoring, glaring, not speaking, publicly shunning Meghan and Harry, and what they thought was a victory will turn out to be the exact opposite — a defeat — and damaging to the idea that the monarchy will survive another generation.
Very good point. Prophetic.
All of Charles’ and Camilla’s conniving and it’s come to this: Diana’s younger son holds all the cards.
HAhahahaa! You bet that’s not lost on them.
What a mess. It’s hard to believe that people believe in an institution which is so disorganized. Let’s see what we have.
1) Spare is published
2) KFC tells Sussexes to vacate Frogmore Cottage BEFORE the Clowning
3) Sussexes invite KFC and Fails to Princess Lilibet’s christening, and they don’t go or acknowledge it in any way.
4) KFC tells Sussexes to vacate property after Clowning
5) KFC tells Sussexes to vacate property by Fall (I think it was)
6) More bm articles then you can count on how the Sussexes will be treated poorly if they come to the Clowning
7) Harry shows up in the UK and KFC’s calendar is completely empty, but KFC makes it clear he will not talk to Harry because he’s ‘busy’.
8) The Sussexes should be at the Clowning so that the Firm can humiliate them.
Now, why would anyone NOT go to this disaster waiting to happen?
Make it make sense. I’m surprised PH is so emotionally mature for how they treated him.
Fatal for whom? The royal family? Surely this is not a threat to the Duchess and Duke? Who will strike that blow, pray tell?
I’m still not over them being forced to give up Frogmore Cottage. This is the final move, on top of everything that proceeded it, that severed any and all real or perceived fiduciary duties they might/could still have to the family and/or the crown. I won’t even capitalize crown any more, cause I now have NO respect for the institution or the people within. I once did, I was certainly raised to. They have completely eradicated any remnant of loyalty I might have felt in respect for my mother and father’s heritage. They have exposed their own arses too many times ; it’s exactly like mine and poops the same stuff. They do not poop rainbows and lollipops like they want us to believe. If God had truly touched them, chosen them, they would be doing better things and standing by better values and principles through their actions and deeds. Instead, we get exactly the opposite. I’m beyond done.
Whatever H&M choose to do, I shall support them wholeheartedly. Also, I love some of the ideas posted here. Every day. Every day opportunities are presented here on how they could do better. They choose not to. Thus, I choose H&M for the win.
This – exactly!!! “they would be doing better things and standing by better values and principles through their actions and deeds”! My grandmother was born in England and I respected her choice to support the Royal Family. It is a different era and I cannot.
“Among King Charles’s many titles are Defender of the Faith – a title bestowed on Henry VIII by the pope, and retained after England broke with Rome – and supreme governor of the Church of England.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/09/king-charles-to-be-defender-of-the-faith-but-also-a-defender-of-faiths
Charles has no moral ground to defend, model or be head of anything. Charles, Camilla, his siblings and Prince William and Kate are not special nor admirable. It is like the children’s story “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. There is nothing to see.
@Julianna, that’s an interesting link. Ultimately it sounds silly to me because they say charlie is a man of deep faith. But his actions belie the words, and that pisses me off. It was kind of interesting how far back charlie has been speaking about defending faiths, as opposed to defender of THE faith, though.
Surly Gale, it’s got to be difficult to reach the place you are now when you’ve been raised to respect the Monarchy. It couldn’t have been easy. I don’t understand because I’m American, but I agree that with all of the suggestions given on this site there hasn’t been one person in a palace somewhere who could have come up with something similar. I don’t understand that at all.
I agree that I’ll support H&M whatever they choose to do. My only thought is that if they go to the Clowning, what will be the next thing that they will HAVE to do? I can’t imagine this will end at just this event.
The media proposal sounds like a great deal, doesn’t it? If I’m getting this right,
– either the Sussexes attend the Chuckly and masochistically consent to their own self-flagellation (a collection of public vexations are in the making),
– or they’re deemed sadistically responsible for the family rift and the monarchy’s impending crumbling down.
I like the way the media’s wonky, lopsided rationale is being normalized as viable options to choose from.
I’m sorry to say it, but anyone who was raised by a clinical narcissist has been given this exact set of circumstances surrounding a family holiday/event at some point in their lives. Watching it unfold on a global stage is painful, but it certainly helps us sympathize with the Sussexes. We know that ultimately H & M will be fine. And their children will grow up a million miles from this insanity.
@ZAZZOO
“I’m sorry to say it, but anyone who was raised by a clinical narcissist has been given this exact set of circumstances surrounding a family holiday/event at some point in their lives.”
Exactly this! It is what makes me empathize with Harry and Meghan so much.
Add to this that half of my family could pose for a portraits of the royals and most people could not be certain if they were the BFR’s or not. It is seriously scary!
The royalists and royal media are so insulated in their stupid world, they assume that the rest of the world gives an iota of a damn about this idiotic coronation. Outside of Britain, the Sussexes won’t be maligned for not attending. They can’t believe that Harry isn’t jumping at that weak invitation to RSVP as soon as possible. I hope they don’t go.
If you had a narcissistic parent, you know this dynamic. “If you don’t come home so I can abuse you it’s ALL OVER.” Until the next time.
I hope they stay home, and have a nice person come make balloon animals for Archie and 4 of his little 4-year-old friends.
Absolutely this. This is so true with narcissistic abuse, they want the implicit contract. A woman I have to work with (though not a co-worker) blew up at me the other day because I didn’t answer her phone call immediately. I let her know that I have several other projects, but will respond to her by the end of the day and she got extremely upset with me for saying that. So I politely said I had to go. Well guess who called me again two days later for no reason?
So, if they come to Chubbly, it’s terrible, and they’ll be abused by the Royals and the BM, but if they don’t come, it will be terrible, and they will be abused by the Royals and the BM. It’s a lose-lose situation either way for the Sussexes. Although, hopefully, Meghan and Harry can do this one last thing, and then kiss the Windsors good-bye.
It will never be one last thing, though. It will be Christmas, funerals, a one year coronation commemoration (You KNOW Bride of Chucky is going to want something ridiculous like that). Heck, they will make up events to get Harry amnd Meghan to come. The entire royal family’s message is: Will Harry and Meghan show up at our dumb events so we can show them how much we hate them?
Whatever the royals do beyond that is truly unknown. Why their entire monarchy hinges on 2 people who no longer live in the UK is totally illogical. I can imagine all of that miserable lot whining about why Harry and Meghan don’t care about being spurned by them. According to Mike Tindall, they all sit around talking shit about Harry and Meghan when they are together. Harry and Meghan are the stars and the royal family is the collective jealous ex, left with trying to make the one that got away jealous, and going to ridiculous lengths to do so.
There needs to be an overhaul and restructuring of the standards of media in Britain because they abuse people, infringe upon people’s privacy, and for years, sh-t talk Harry and Meghan while also begging them to come back. They are abusive exes who alternately love you and then hate you. #unhinged
Ive been thinking, that among the calculations that H&M will have to make in deciding whether or not to go, is: if they decide NOT to go, how will that decision affect their ability to be at chucky’s funeral? I:e, will the gatekeepers use that opportunity to reeeeeeeaaaallllly sock it to chucky’s SON, telling him that he cant attend his FATHER’s funeral?
I can see clearly how those troglodytes would do something like that.
So I believe this is one of the things H has to be thinking about: If he doesnt attend, they will DEFINITELY await their chance to get back at him. And denying his attendance to his father’s funeral will do it.
Afterall, both betty and chucky were around when H’s security was pulled and his location leaked to his enemies. So if they did that when THOSE 2 were around, do you believe anything will stop BULLYBOY, who would be the monarch, from sticking this to H?????
Because after the CONaNation, there will decidedly be no other stick left to knock H&M over the head with. Just chucky’s funeral.
I presume that there is nothing of note to ‘leak’. Is there a need for diversion or distraction? What about the Wales and the Monarch & his Queen relationship?
All is well?
if so, why this needless article?
A poor attempt at control??
That ship sailed……
If they do go when it comes time for Camilla crowning politely get up with Archie and Lillibet and walk away because who they came to support would have been crowned by that time.
All cameras would be focused on them and we might see Camilla lose it.
Did anyone else catch the phrase “If Harry & Meaghan don’t go it will do irretrevable damage to the firm”. That’s the part none of them can understand. Harry doesn’t want a relationship with the firm. Harry wants a relationship with his family. But Charles and William can’t seperate the two.
Irreversible blow? I thought it was already “torpedoed”..?
@JJ hahah very true and I agree with you. It’s more like obsessed, they can’t move on and definitely they can’t get over them.. lol..
Whether they go or not go is a family decision for them to make-but if the UK media controls the royal family’s actions then Harry will have to think about all the constant antics the Uk media will play whether they come or not-if they go -attending just the ceremony is the best way to handle it-then get the hell out of dodge and celebrate Archie’s birthday-since Charles has given them until fall-September to move all their things out-this will give them time to attend cornation and celebrate their son’s birthday-and get the hell out of dodge-since they are non-working royals I hope Harry will discuss with the royal family his family’s safety to and from the ceremony and back to Frogmore. the Uk media is definitely planning on making them miserable and uncomfortable while in the UK-the Uk media is causing harm to the Sussex family while in the UK and who knows if some crazy person won’t act on it-that’s my only worry for Harry and his family. You got crazy everywhere you go.
It makes no sense at all ..
They have to go so they can be ignored and treated like crap.
I am just blown away by how unhinged the media is.
I actually can’t stand the thought of Charles and Camilla being King and Queen,it is just so very wrong.
Such a despicable couple,they make me sick.
I think they should take a family vacation to Iceland! LOL
The Sussexes should stay home. I’m sorry Jill Biden is going.