Lady Louise Windsor & James are not allowed on the coronation-day balcony

Last week, King Charles and Queen Camilla confirmed the names of their pages, the teens and preteens who would act as little ceremonial helpers during the coronation. Camilla got her way – her grandchildren have all been included as pages, as has one of Rose Hanbury’s sons. Prince George is the youngest kid included, and generally, it seems as if the goal is to get pages around the age of 13-15 years old. Which means it’s pretty odd that King Charles didn’t include his youngest nephew James, Count Severn/Earl of Wessex, right? James is only 15 years old, the ideal age. It feels like Charles gave Sophie and Edward the Edinburgh title and now he wants to completely ignore them and their children. Speaking of, Charles is apparently making a point of not inviting James or Lady Louise on the balcony for his coronation.

The finale of King Charles’s Coronation will see the royals gather on the Buckingham Palace balcony – but spots are tight. Like at the late Queen’s Platinum Jubilee, the monarch has limited balcony appearances to just working royals only – meaning there is no place for his son Prince Harry or daughter-in-law Meghan Markle if they decide to attend.

Among those landing a place are of course the Prince and Princess of Wales and their children as well as the King’s brother Prince Edward and his wife Sophie, the new Duchess of Edinburgh. But unlike Trooping the Colour at last year’s Jubilee – it appears there is no place for their children Lady Louise Windsor and James, the new Earl of Wessex.

The late Queen made an exception to her rule for her youngest grandchildren Louise, now 19 and a student at St Andrews University, and 15-year-old James to be on the balcony. But now it appears that the King won’t be making an exception for them again come May 6.

Speaking on the Mirror’s royal podcast Pod Save The King, the Mirror’s royal editor Russell Myers said: “I think it is interesting that the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh’s children won’t be there because we did see them on the balcony during Trooping the Colour during the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee last year. However, documents that I have seen, it is there in black and white that they were not part of the plans. Some may say that James has just been given this promotion to Earl of Wessex, Lady Louise is now 19 she’s now been seen at a couple of engagements with her parents. We know she had a huge bond with the late Duke of Edinburgh but they are not working royals so it doesn’t make sense to put them front and centre if Charles wants to let people see this vision [slimmed down monarchy] in the flesh.”

Detailed plans seen by The Mirror reveal how the King has chosen to say thanks for the nation alongside a select few royals who have dedicated their lives to public service, while also showing “the heartbeat and future of his family”. Future king and queen, Prince William and Kate will appear with their three children – Prince George, nine; Princess Charlotte, seven and Prince Louis, four.

The final group of 15 shows there is no place for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, should they even decide to attend the coronation. Charles’s trusted lieutenant and beloved sister, Princess Anne, will be by the King’s side with her husband Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence. A source with knowledge of the plans said: “The King has been very clear who he wants to represent the monarchy. There is little room for sentiment, this is a State occasion, not a family occasion and it is right that only the working members of the family are there at the big public moment.”

The King also insisted on some of his mother’s most trusted and loyal servants and family members to be included, despite their days as working royals being numbered. The Duke of Kent, 87, a working royal and first cousin of both the late Queen and Prince Philip, will also attend alongside his sister Princess Alexandra, 86. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester have also been asked by the King to join him and Camilla.

[From The Daily Mirror]

“There is little room for sentiment, this is a State occasion, not a family occasion”– Camilla demanded that her grandchildren act as pages and not the children of aristocrats, which was the tradition. Charles is also deciding (sentimentally) to include the Glouchesters, Princess Alexandra and the Duke of Kent? It sounds like it’s less about sentimentality or lack thereof and Charles is just picking and choosing which old, white members of the family he wants on the balcony. There’s no rhyme or reason to it, they’re just staggering from one made-up excuse to the next to explain why Meghan and Harry are not welcome, and somehow Louise and James are getting some of the blowback too.

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  1. Ang says:

    They are so stupid. That pretty girl is the ONLY interesting member of that boring family now. Louise, and Harry and Meg. They are the only ones with star power.

    • Josephine says:

      Yes, I suspect that those horrid people did not want to compete with James and Lady Louise — the are so deeply insecure that they are worried about kids stealing their thunder. Khate has been praticing her joker grin for her big moment, the culmination of bigotry and pettiness.

      • PrincessOfWaffles says:

        Pretty stupid arrangement. So there you are, the royal family crowning a new king, as big occasion as that, and you pick and choose who within your own royal family will get to go on the balcony? It’s all about family and blood and tradition and passing over the crown to the next heir but it’s a state matter? So Sophie and Ed allowed but get rid of the children? Wow. The dude is clueless and has no idea how to read a room, had no idea what family is and it shows.

    • Jess says:

      Ummmm what is interesting about Louise? I think Charlotte and Louis are interesting but I don’t think anything about her.

      • Ang says:

        Nothing more than the fact that she is very pretty and 19, and seems to have “it”, which NONE of the others do.

      • AsISaid says:

        Nothing at all, she’s average at best and rather plain. But some people think anyone who is blonde, thin, and white is beautiful.

      • The Recluse says:

        Louise is about as exciting and dynamic as a glass of milk.
        I was about to say she was as exciting and dynamic as a blank sheet of paper, BUT you can actually DO SOMETHING creative or constructive with paper.
        Louise is just…there.

    • Ang says:

      You’re joking, right?

    • Mel says:

      She’s very pretty? She seems like a nice young lady but she’s average at best.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Now that Meghan isn’t coming, Harry might be put on the balcony.

    • MaryContrary says:

      Um-what? That plain girl who is off (rightly) going to university?

      • Sugarhere says:

        I will have to vigorously disapprove of the comments here and there, unnecessarily targeting Louise. She is an unassuming, unproblematic post teenager who doesn’t strike me as someone carrying the Windsor gene of bigoted contempt, racism or classism.

        Please, you all, let’s give that little woman a chance, the benefit of the doubt, and time to develop a personality of her own. Having Edward – with his loose lifestyle, to put it mildly – as a father, and psycho-rigid sycophant Sophie as a mother, isn’t exactly an ideal start in life. Louise looks naive and sheltered. So let’s be kind, here.

  2. HeyKay says:

    No surprise to me.
    Charles keeps saying he wants a slim downed RF.
    But, of course he is happy to use these two as photo fillers, if needed.

    The Balcony:
    Charles & Cam
    Will, Kate, kids
    Harry, slightly behind Will or completely on the other side
    behind them
    Anne, Edward, (Andrew off in the corner edge Or maybe not)

    Charles front and center, puffed up and thrilled with himself.
    That is all he really wants.

    • Whyforthelove says:

      I hope Harry is on the plane when they are on the balcony! I hope Louise is studying hard and takes an internship in Italy after college and never comes back. I hope she meets a handsome middle class tailor who treats her well and spends the rest of his life showing her love by making her properly fitting clothes to show how beautiful she is.

      • StellainNH says:

        Lady Louise is a beautiful young woman who dresses in such dowdy clothes—probably her mother’s influence. It would be nice to see her better dressed and happily away from this toxic group.

    • Flower says:

      Harry will not be on the Balcony and neither will Andrew.

      And the above is the reason they desperately wanted Harry & Meghan to attend. Brits are very peculiar – they don’t want to have to deal with the reality of Andy’s heinous behaviour so they wanted the distraction of Meghan instead.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Andrew will not be on the balcony. Andrew is disgraced, retired and permanently on ice.

      Harry will not be on the balcony. Harry does not want to be on the Con-A-Nation balcony.

      Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise and James will not be on the balcony. Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise and James are not working Royals.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Well by Chucky’s standards, neither are George, Charlotte or Louis but they will be up there. Probably a condition placed on Pa by Incandescent, no doubt.

    • Tessa says:

      I thought harry would be excluded as nom working royal. I would not want him anywhere near kate.

  3. AnneL says:

    What Ang said! Louise and her brother are attractive young people who seem poised and camera ready. They would draw positive attention and we can’t have that.

    Charles is stupid and short-sighted. He’s also a horrible brother, father and uncle and a massive prick.

    • Ang says:

      Louise esp is very poised and seems willing to play the game. Imagine deciding to put a bunch of octogenarian staff members on display and not the faces of the future!

      • BayTampaBay says:

        For the octogenarian staff members (Kent, Kent, Gloucester and Gloucester) this is their last major official public BRF appearance.

        Edward Kent & Alexandria Kent will not outlive Charles. Richard Gloucester & Birgitte Gloucester seem “done” with the whole outdated thing accept their patronages that are close to their hearts.

        Kent, Kent, Gloucester and Gloucester deserve to be there if they want to be there.

    • Bananie says:

      Poised and camera ready to be sure!
      But maybe one of the meddling courtiers can give those two kiddos a little lesson in posture?
      Shoulders back if you please. Yikes!

    • Christine says:

      I am hanging on to hope that it was Edward and Sophie who nope’d their kids off the balcony. They surely have to know which way the wind is blowing, and nothing on that balcony will make their kids’ lives better.

      The two of them are beholden, but their kids aren’t.

  4. Digital Unicorn says:

    Doesn’t surprise me – I expect Cams kids and grandkids to be on the balcony thou. I wonder if Cams will let kHate pull her usual balcony stunt.

    • Ms CP says:

      Maybe they’ll have a fight! You know Kate wont be overshadowed. 😌

    • NotTheOne says:

      I agree- Cams family will be on the balcony with her.

      But what is Kate’s usual drama? What did I miss?

      • Becks1 says:

        Kate always has to be front and center on the balcony. ALWAYS. There is video on youtube – I think its from the RAF centennial celebration in July 2018 – of Kate on the balcony and William tells her to move down, move down, move down (she walked out first and wasn’t going to move to make room for H&M.) And then at the Jubbly this year, she was right next to the Queen and was not moving for ANYONE. I think that was part of the reason for the second balcony appearance, because for that one William planted himself next to the Queen, with george and charlotte, and refused to budge for Kate.

      • Nic919 says:

        There was one balcony appearance where Kate was centering herself over Camilla. She barely moved when the Queen showed up too.

  5. Renae says:

    Sounds like a Madame Tousard wax exhibit. All old, white and pasty. Probably smelling like cedar chips and mothballs.
    Hope Harry has enough sense to NOT GET on that PORCH!

  6. Flower says:

    Sophie is finally understanding what ‘slimmed down’ means and I love that for her.

    She did Kate’s bidding and to what event – she wasn’t even included in the recent colour coordinating family group whatsapp.

    It was so clear from Sunday who is on the Fringes and effectively it’s Sophie, Eugenie and Bea.

    • Cali says:

      But Bea looked so chic in her pink and black outfit. She stood out against the bright blue brigade.

  7. Scout says:

    Charles’ balcony will reflect the monarchy itself: male, pale, frail.

  8. Elizabeth says:

    The Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra, and the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester are still working royals, so having them on the balcony makes sense. They are the late Queen’s first cousins and supported her during her reign.

    • AnneL says:

      And Louise and her brother are Elizabeth’s actual grandchildren. The Homewrecker’s grandkids are up there and QE2’s descendants are decidedly not. That’s screwy.

      • EBS says:

        None of the other grandchildren will be there – Beatrice and Eugenie won’t be there and Peter and Zara won’t be there. I can’t see how this is a particular slight to Louise and James.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I do not see it as slight to Louise and James either.

    • LadyE says:

      Did you notice it doesn’t say that the Duchess of Kent is included, though? Just the Duke and his sister…. Maybe they realized that racist Mrs Michael would be a really terrible look on the balcony?

      • Lucky Charm says:

        Wrong Kent. You’re thinking of prince and princess Michael (who are no longer working royals). The Duke and Duchess of Kent are the older brother and his wife.

      • Yessir says:

        The Duchess of Kent is a different person from Princess Michael. She is 90 years old and retired as a working royal many years ago. Her name is Katherine and is very sweet and not racist. She worked as a music teacher for many years. Princess Michael is married to the Duke’s younger brother Prince Michael who is not a working royal – neither of them are. Both the Kents, the Duke and his sister Princess Alexandra are frail. The Gloucesters are younger and fitter (still in their seventies – only a few years older than the king) and actually carry out more events than Kate. (Not that difficult!)

      • Becks1 says:

        the racist one (well the most blatantly racist) isn’t the Duchess, its Princess Michael. Technically Prince/ss Michael are not working royals (gee, they’re kind of part time) so they aren’t usually on the balcony anyway.

      • amyb says:

        The Duchess of Kent retired from royal activities several years ago. She also prefers to be known as Katherine Kent, and she, I believe, teaches music.

      • Talia says:

        It’s pretty well known that the marriage of the Duke and Duchess of Kent broke down years ago. They chose to unofficially separate and Katherine Kent was well liked enough and they were both far enough from the throne that nobody made a fuss about it.

        it helped that the Duke didn’t try and publicly trash his ex and there was no suggestion 3rd parties were involved.

  9. Well Wisher says:

    Back to the bloody balcony.
    One must think it is prime real estate, and there is a price to be on it on occasion.
    The children will live, it is not the end of the world if they are spared the limelight.

    • AnneL says:

      But it’s important to Charles. It’s important to them. Of course the kids will live. They’ll be fine. I think they’d be better off away from this circus entirely. But the fact is Charles is their Uncle. Their father is the late Queen’s son. They’re her grandchildren.

      Family dynamics are strange. What might not seem important to us can impact them. I’m not saying the kids care. But Edward might. I’m not a fan of his or anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s OK for Charles to want to pretend he doesn’t exist, taunt him with the title his father wanted him to have and generally by a s**t brother.

      • Well Wisher says:

        Your point is well taken, I wish the children could not be a part of the dysfunction.
        The balcony is simply a symbol of it, and sincerely hope that the children are not negatively affected by their exclusion.

      • molly says:

        James has looked uncomfortable and miserable at every royal event he’s ever been forced to put on a suit and attend.
        I’m sure he’s more than fine to sit this one out.

  10. Cecile730 says:

    No Louise or James because they do not work but still the Wales kids and most probably Camilla’s family if she have any say and we know she does….

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Camilla’s family will not be on the balcony.

    • Debbie says:

      I wasn’t aware that W and K’s children were “working royals” yet. Hm, who knew? Unless everyone is using a different rule to allow them onto the precious balcony.

  11. blue says:

    What a barf-fest! If Andy or Cam’s offspring make it to the balcony, I hope there are boos from the watching crowd. Better yet, I hope people don’t bother to show up for the balcony scene but there are still fools who think Chuck is worth seeing in person.

  12. Maryth says:

    If louise and james wont be getting any money i guess they shouldnt be used for promotions. I still almost cried for them. This is so mean-hearted. It leaves the kids to wonder, is something wrong with them. Hopefully someone sits them down and explains that its just business.

    Maybe they can have a nice seat! Maybe william might re-add them, if the monarchy is still standing.

    At least with bea and eugenia they have experienced a ton. I guess lou and james can join peter who gets left out of things eventhough he is handsome. Is zara going?

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “It leaves the kids to wonder, is something wrong with them”

      Louise & James were raised in BRF. They know how thing work. I am willing to bet they are relieved that they do not have to part of the KFCIII and Ringmaster Camilla Royal Circus.

  13. Cathy says:

    The only reason for watching the balcony is to laugh as Kate Middleton works to position herself front and centre.

    A look into Kate’s mind on the day:
    lah lah… I so pretty… I’m the Queen…where’s Chris Jackson I need my photo taken!

  14. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    I dunno. Maybe Louise and James are heaving huge sighs of relief at not being on the balcony. I know I would

  15. LightPurple says:

    Charlotte and Louis are working royals?

    What do they do?

    Either everyone who wants to be on the balcony is on the balcony or Charles is on the balcony alone.

    • Becks1 says:

      This was my reaction. With the Jubbly, the narrative was that it was only working royals and younger children of working royals – so this got in Louise, James and the Wales children. Now if they’re doing away with the younger children rule (so no James and Louise, who is 19 at this piont) – but the Wales children are still out there?

      Maybe they can make an argument that its because they’re grandchildren of the monarch and George will (might) be king one day, but then why isnt the other son out there? (assuming he would be out there if it was an option.)

      • EllenOlenska says:

        Maybe they’re going to dangle Louis and Charlotte over the balcony to satisfy the media…

    • Dollycoa says:

      The future of the RF is this lot though. The Wales kids will be working Royals when they grow up. They shouldn’t be imo ( only George) but I can’t see how the children of two such lazy parents will have the wherewithal to get jobs. They are the future equivalent of Anne and Edward. I think it’s fine. We don’t need more working Royals that we pay to shake hands and pretend to care. The whole thing- personnel, houses etc needs to be slashed, and before William and Kate get their hands on it, because William is his grandmother through and through and will bloat the family and their houses etc as much as he possibly can get away with. Only the Wales kids, then only George’s kids and that’s it. Bin the rest.

  16. Ohso says:

    I think James is too tall to be a page. Same as with Lord Culloden, the Duke of Gloucester’s grandson, who was a page a year or two ago and is about the same age as James – saw him at the funeral- he’s too tall now. I think James is personally probably ok with not. He always seems a bit shy and not into performing as a royal. Looks like it will be the working royals and the heir’s children only. At least it’s consistent.

  17. Interested Gawker says:

    Charles and Camilla are treating all of this stuff like the dying Skeksis Emperor in that old Dark Crystal film, clinging to the sceptre screaming “Mine, mine, mine!”

    They’ve made it all about themselves without the grace or foresight to realize part of the point of being the Monarch is to defend the Monarchy. You need to draw interest by wielding every proof that you have power at your disposal to make the Crown seem legitimate. Having the younger family members at your back, having all the aristocracy in their best gear in a lavish ceremony is old fashioned but its true soft power and a magnet of public interest that kept this show going in the UK all these centuries.

    Charles and Camilla might actually not care that the monarchy survives past him, they are certainly acting like it.

    • Maryth says:

      I assumed charles was being stingy with the invitations because he wanted to invite “better aristos”. However, it seems like the same type of people. I want to see the 200th duke of whatever thats also welder. I want the guy who invented red bricks. Instead we get rose and her husband. Parker-bowels. And probably some tories.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        The “aristos” stick together as do the “Life Peers”. None of them are happy (if you believe the Fail and/or The Guardian) with the way Charles has handled the Con-A-Nation.

        The titled Aristocracy believe that KFCIII is only King because their ancestors brought Charles II back to England and put him on the throne after Oliver Cromwell’s death.

  18. Normades says:

    He looks so petty. No Edinburgh title, page boy or balcony for you two!

  19. Malcolm says:

    The Wessex kids are cute, they could easily breath some life into the old haggery that will be the balcony.

  20. Saucy&Sassy says:

    Frankly, I think the best thing that could happen to Louise and James is to stay as far away from Firm events as possible. Let them build lives separate from the brf as much as possible. I think the same for Zara’s children and Peter’s children. That would be the healthiest thing that could happen to all of them.

    Although it seems that Beatrice will be ‘used’ by the brf when it suits them, I don’t think she has any doubts that her path is separate. Eugenie clearly wants there to be a clear line since she moved to Portugal for much of the year.

    Let Fails and Wails be on that balcony with their children only. I think that would suit both of them. I feel sorry for the children, but their opportunity to escape will be slim and none.

    • Maryth says:

      The tindals are pushing themselves and their children but if it doesn’t work they have made themselves targets. Zara brother knows how to disappear but zara kids are front and center at all times, except the boy. It will be very expensive if willam drops them.

  21. QuiteContrary says:

    The balcony nonsense really serves as a good illustration of why monarchy sucks — the desperate jockeying for position, the unearned lofty status.

    The idea of cheering people who are literally above you in station just makes me want to throw up.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The idea of believing anyone is above anyone else’s station bothers me more than the crowds cheering the clowns at a Bread & Circus event.

      • QuiteContrary says:

        Same, BTB.
        It’s always annoyed me for my husband, who’s British — and smarter and more educated than any of the British royals. But classism is really ingrained in England.

  22. SueBarbri33 says:

    I think it’s strange how…disdainful Charles is of his nieces and nephews. I’ve never heard that he had much smoke either way for Peter or Zara, but he clearly hates Eug, Beatrice, Louise, and James. It seems like 25% of the articles on the RF center on how little regard he has for them. I wouldn’t want to be on the balcony if I were Louise or James, but I also wouldn’t want my Uncle Charles to speak so negatively about me to to press. That’s weird and off-putting.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Charles is close to no one and disdainful of everyone except himself & Camilla.

      Has Charles spoken negatively about Louise and James to the press? I have not seen this.

  23. Jojo says:

    I really can’t bring myself to gaf about any of this tbh. As long as the stupid balcony isn’t being used again as a platform to further abuse Meghan in public then who really cares.

  24. Tessa says:

    Kate can push her way out to get on balcony first

  25. MarqueeMoon says:

    The only reason that Charles is getting to be crowned King at all, is because of the completely ridiculous rules of the monarchy of hereditary titles based on the completely outdated notion that some people have blue blood or royal blood, or some people’s blood is better than other peoples blood , and that those people are more deserving of wealth and power, no matter what the quality of the person.

    He can’t have it both ways , Charles believes the indefensible idea of royal blood or blue blood to be different and better than the “commoners “ that is the only thing that is giving him this position, yet, for others, he wants to change the rules and be able to strip Harry and his children of their “royal blood” privileges or anyone else that he’s jealous of.

    The truth is, he’s jealous of absolutely everyone, and if he could kick William and Kate off the balcony he would, but he knows that would look too bad that he basically he hates everyone else that could be any kind of threat to him

    It seems to me like Beatrice does some engagements, she seems to be a partly working Royal. Is there any reason that she can’t be there?
    He wants the older members that are completely dependent on his purse strings up there , because he doesn’t want anyone at all who could overshadow or be a threat to him on the balcony, he’s a jealous , mean , petty man basically.

    • equality says:

      Bea and Eugenie did garden parties and some things with QE. The charities they represent are on their own time and interest. Don’t give the royals credit for what they do.

  26. Debbie says:

    Oh my goodness, the way these people go on about that balcony you’d think it had magical penis enhancement powers. It’s just an elevated porch, for heaven’s sake.

  27. Noor says:

    The working and non working royals appeared on the balcony in the past. They only impose the rule to restrict balcony appearances to working royals after the Sussexes stepped back from royal duties.

    So now they have to live with a pitifully sparse balcony look. The united joyous family look is gone.

    A slimmed down monarchy does not meet you cannot have all members of the royal family on the balcony on celebratory ocassions in the spirit of goodwill and cheer