I generally don’t put a lot of faith in Marca, the Spanish tabloid which covers European royals and celebrities. They have some good gossip about Spanish celebrities, for sure, and I appreciate the fact that they’re stirring up gossip about the British royals, but y’all can’t take ALL of their reporting seriously! Back in February, Marca breezily reported that Prince William spent Valentine’s Day with Rose Hanbury and they had an intimate dinner together in London. Which… the British media covers up William’s crap for the most part, but I doubt the entire British establishment would cover it up if William was flaunting his affair(s) so publicly. Meanwhile, Marca reports this week that William is being emotionally and verbally abusive to Kate. This is kind of the first time anyone has printed that.
Insiders within the royal family have been divulging a lot of controversial information lately, and now a staff member has come forward with some truly shocking allegations. This person claims that Kate Middleton has been subjected to emotional and verbal abuse by her husband, Prince William. This revelation has caused quite a stir among royal watchers and the public alike.
The staff member, who has chosen to remain anonymous, has been working closely with the royal family and therefore has firsthand knowledge of the situation. According to the source, the alleged mistreatment has taken a toll on Kate Middleton’s mental health, leaving her struggling to cope with the constant pressures of her royal duties and the challenges of maintaining a harmonious marriage.
“Kate’s really been through the wringer lately,” the source shared. “The way William treats her is just awful, and it’s been really hard on her. She’s such a strong person, but even she has her breaking point.”
These allegations are incredibly concerning, especially given Kate Middleton’s well-known work ethic and dedication to her royal duties. If the claims are true, there are serious implications for her ability to continue fulfilling her responsibilities.
In the 24 hours following the Guardian’s excerpt of Prince Harry’s Spare, the part when Harry described William cornering him in Harry’s home and then violently throwing Harry to the ground, I’ll never forget how quickly thousands of royal-watchers went straight to “what does William do to Kate behind-the-scenes.” I don’t know what happens between William and Kate, all I know is how Harry described his brother’s actions, behavior and words. I also know that everyone around William has said for years that he has a terrible temper and that he’s constantly incandescent with rage as his default emotion. It would absolutely be believable to me that William is the same way when he’s with his wife and children.
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And Louis didn’t just invent shutting his mother up by clamping a hand over her mouth and mocking her. That sh!t is learned.
Exactly.
Louis’ behavior towards Kate is learned behavior. He’s seen someone treat her the same way and it wasn’t his big brother George. It was Daddy.
I didn’t believe the Valentines Day story about William and Rose. William is dumb af but even he wouldn’t be out having dinner with his mistress in a public place. But I have no doubt someone wants it out there that William is abusive to Kate. Now whether it’s been said to garner sympathy for Kate or to harm the Wailses’ image is up for debate.
I don’t know if that’s necessarily true. kids that age bite each other and it doesn’t mean they’ve seen adults biting. my stepson spat at his mom when he was 5 and he certainly knew it wasn’t appropriate and never saw anyone spit at his mother before.
There is a picture floating around of Isla or Savannah covering George’s mouth on the balcony. I think they could have picked up that particular action just about anywhere.
Hmm. Intimate dinner. You can get private dinners in hotel rooms where nobody sees you and staff is very discreet. Like where Diana had Dinner with Dodi on their last day.
It didn’t have to be in public.
@THE ORIGINALMIA there is also a photo of Will riding in the backseat of a car with an unknown blonde after a late night of clubbing from last year. There was also the photo years ago of him dancing and grinding publicly with women who weren’t his wife. So I’m not sure what he has done, but he clearly isn’t smart enough not to be seen publicly hanging out with women who aren’t his wife.
Kate is a shell of her former self. These days she looks very frail gaunt with sunken eyes. Not an image of a happily married woman.
She doesn’t feel comfortable on the wastage, unable to string a coherent sentence.
Her son Louis in my opinion displayed some very aggressive body language and behaviour towards his mother, the finger wagging he had definitely learned from an adult.
@Arizona, sorry no. Biting, scratching, kicking are instinctive self protective behaviors. Reaching out and covering someone’s mouth and mocking them is learned. Maybe not from papa, but from someone
Kate is living the life she carefully planned herself. I don’t think she is miserable because she has the houses, jewels, and fame she sought.
Not quite. She wanted popularity, and she’s never achieved that. The complimentary comments on the daily mail and twitter are from paid astroturfers. She wanted to be the new Diana, so it didn’t work out as she wanted/planned.
Something clicked just now, remembering Henry, describing his anger at his mother, for leaving when she died, that he didn’t believe she would do that to them.
As William was older and witnessed directly some of the confrontations between his parents, he may have drawn the conclusion at some point that if his mother had just gone along accepted things, didn’t argue didn’t fight back didn’t scream at Charles, she might still be alive.
He may have been even told that by the queen, Philip, or those around him in the days after Diana passed. Or even suggested that the reason she had to be erased was because her outspokenness was a liability.
I’m not sure that Kate is a victim in this. She’s tough enough to threaten Meghan, she’s probably partially to blame for Louis learning to put a hand over her mouth. Wasn’t there a piece that said they both screamed and threw things at each other? And then some kind of piece that refuted all the screaming and said that her household had a no screaming policy? It’s all very weird.
Almost like they are trying to get ahead of any real leaks.
I’ve been dwelling all morning on a relationship that ended 14 years ago. I remember I sometimes yelled back, or screamed, because it made me feel like I still had any “fight” left in me. And of course, I’d later blame myself for “escalating” (“he’s right, I’m always the problem”). It was also why no one recognized the abuse — because I yelled back. Eventually I stopped yelling back, of course, because I was dead inside. Only when “gaslighting,” “scapegoating,” and “rage” turned into clear-cut physical and financial abuse did I pack a bag and leave.
Abuse is abuse, no matter how ‘strong’ or unlikeable the target.
Yes, Jenn. I have heard this is a common dynamic. When the woman “fights back” to try to defend herself, it is then labeled a fight and not domestic violence. So you can be a doormat or defend yourself and have your abuse erased which is often what society prefers. And Nicki is correct. Abuse is abuse.
Yes to Jenn above. I went through a very similar relationship in my very early twenties. It was only when I was depressed and so broken I couldn’t yell back that everyone around me saw the abuse for what it was.
Also, see Becks below. Kate can be a victim in one circumstance and a perpetrator in another. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Sometimes hurt people hurt – when you have no power and you’re damaged and not doing the mental work that needs to be done, it might feel good to control something below you in the power totem.
I respect everyone’s input here regarding women who suffer abuse and how sometimes simply holding your own can be rewritten as “abusing back.”
How can you take the article seriously when it contains the sentence “Kate Middleton’s well known work ethic and dedication to her royal duties”. 🙄🙄🙄
We are very much not a screaming family
I feel this is could truly be real. Giving him the cold shoulder, rose handbury affair, his numerous heli trips during covid, his kids with luggage seeing kate and embracing her like they haven’t seen her for days, adelaide small house/new house for kate – with not enough room for aids. “The not enough room for aids” to me reads this time like some people shouldn’t see what is happening behind close doors – Kate is isolated and someone is talking to protect her because she is at adelaide alone and also: it is she that is looking for ways to get a bigger house. All the shenanigans about kate hating meghan also would feel like anger and jealousy because of a love story she doesnt have.
@Carrie: I know, right? That “strong work ethic” phrase was a dead giveaway.
She isn’t alone at Adelaide, Adelaide is huge by most people’s standards and has a whole entire other building just for the staff quarters. They have tons and tons of staff at Adelaide. The whole “look at Will and Kate and their modest humble home that’s too small for staff!” is just pro-Cambridge media propaganda based on propping up this ludicrous idea of them being a normal middle class couple (and to set them against Harry and Meghan, since H&M got bashed so badly over the lies about Frogmore, which actually was pretty shabby but the press made out like it was some crazy luxury mansion).
Wow, does she ever have mean look on her face in the above photos. The worst is the slitty ey and tight mean lip look. The shamrocks look wilted and dead. What horrid photos of both of them.
Wait, what. It doesn’t have to be learned. I birthed a kinda angry kid and she figure out all that stuff on her own. That said, it sounds like his father won’t be a great role model in learning how to manage anger (which is really irritability, anxiety, inflexibility, etc).
And that type of behavior is nipped in the bud. And children are taught that it’s not okay. Clearly Louis has never been taught that. And why wouldn’t he be taught that unless in his home that type of behavior is acceptable and normalized?
I was about to say my kid was probably Louis’ age or a bit older (he will be 7 in August and this happened a couple of years ago) when he covered my mouth with his hand and to my knowledge he had never seen that behavior in our home.
Now, in my child’s defense I was actively annoying him and continuing to talk on purpose and he didn’t turn his head/not listen to me/ignore my existence. He just giggled as he covered my mouth so I would shut up (my words, not his).
Do I think William walks away from Kate when she is talking to him or actively ignores her? Yeah absolutely and Louis may have learned THAT from his dad, but putting his hand on his mom’s mouth to shut her up, to me is just a thing kids learn at some point.
Er…..”children learn what they live.” And then they turn around and “live what they learn.”
No ifs, ands or buts about that.
You know……tabula rasa and all that.
The mattress has deployed the nanny.
Elizabeth Regina, If you mean that the Spanish nanny might be a/ the source, I could see this.
This is a very specific accusation (ie, W abuses—not fights with, but abuses—K verbally) in a media source not immediately connected to the royal family. So, it’s harder (in theory) for the royals to control this narrative. The source sounds absolutely worried about K. Presumably anyone working for W&K has had to sign an NDA. Is K close to Nanny Maria? Does anyone know?
Mattress ? And here we are discussing learned behaviors .
I think a lot of parents try to hush an unruly child by placing a hand over mouth. It is much more likely that Kate has done that to Louis, which is why he did it to her. Not evidence of abuse.
I think that makes sense. I don’t see it as something totally instinctive, like biting, crying, etc. Louis could have picked it up from a number of places or people, but it would have to be something he had seen more than once.
Maybe one of his parents or his Nanny do it to him, or maybe Will does it to Kate. One of the older kids is possible but IMO less likely. I do see it as something learned, though.
The finger-pointing and the scowl? People were like “hahaha toddlers” but no…toddlers don’t scowl in anger like that – and at their mother no less! – unless they’ve had it modelled for them.
somehow everyone here has turned into a child and parenting expert that can tell everything about home life from one interaction caught on camera. the fact that marca made up crap about the valentine’s day dinner thing makes me side-eye anything thats published. but more so, i think we should all shut our mouths about how anyone parents. kids. are. all. different. so any kid that hits another kid or steals something is learning that from parents at home?
I think people are reading far too much into the Louis hand over the mouth thing. Not all behaviors of preschoolers are learned from what they’re seeing from parents at home. Some are instinctual, random, or they may have even seen it from another child or someone at school etc. Its funny because as much as people try to give Kate crap about being trying to be an early years expert, all of a sudden everyone here is an early years expert. That being said, if there is any truth to William being a rage monster, it’s hard to imagine that he doesn’t demonstrate rage like behaviors at home as well. Whether he’s ever modeled putting a hand on someone’s mouth though is something that we absolutely can’t tell from a 4 year old doing that in a different context.
I agree. It’s not even so much the hand over the mouth (which was incredibly insolent and, honestly, putting your hand over anyone’s mouth to silence them is not something any credible parenting book would teach) but him mocking her when she was trying to discipline him. I’m not a Kate fan but I am a mom. Kids learn what they see at home and if she’s being disrespected (let alone yelled at by her husband), that’s coming from the family dynamic.
baloney. kids do this kind of stuff all the time.
@RA: No. There are certain natural inhibitions that preclude a young child from doing this gesture to a grown-up, let alone a mother.
Not true. And that’s a pretty big blanket statement to make. Kids totally do this, it doesn’t necessarily reflect abuse. Mine have done it to me when I was deliberately continuing on talking about something they didn’t want to hear about. And honestly it made us both laugh. Cheeky, yep – but not some kind of dark breach of natural inhibition.
Man, my kid kicked me the other day during a fit. We don’t hit in this house and he’s very well behaved at his daycare. Thank goodness it didn’t happen in front of the world.
My three year old has done it to me, and it’s absolutely something she did not see at home. Maybe it was seen at daycare from some other kids. It only happened once.
Well I read this with interest till I got to this phrase at the end “…given Kate Middletown’s well known work ethic and dedication to her royal duties”. Then I howled with laughter and realised this whole article is utter nonsense 😂
Bingo!
Work ethic?
Dedication to royal duties?
Yes, this was the most hilarious part of the article!! What work ethic?? Is this them side eyeing her??
I work with children, have for decades, and I see that behavior often. It’s easy to correct and teach the “use your words” kind of approach, but it happens.
This site is a lot more fun (as its described by the authors) when we leave the kids out of the discussions. There is so much to call out on the adults in this family….so much.
Imagine if Archie behaved that way towards Meghan. The RacistRota would have a field day. By all accounts, (i.e., Ellen DeGeneres) Archie has the sweetest disposition. A testament to how and by whom he’s being raised.
Right but if Archie behaved that way and the internet had a field day, I would hope that anyone rational would call for an end to it, say to leave the kids out of it, and not make wild speculations about what happens at his house based on him having a preschool moment? Also I think if Archie didn’t have “the sweetest disposition” btw, it wouldn’t be a poor reflection on his parents or how he’s raised. Kids can have different types of dispositions and it’s ok. I will say that I’m sure that Meghan and Harry must have felt vindicated that they’ve chosen to leave their kids out of the spotlight after seeing people go wild about Louis’s behavior.
Still, what reflects poorly on parents is when they insist on exposing a child, whom they know is not ready, to the limelight for the world to witness him misbehave.
It results in both the child and lousy parents being evaluated harshly.
Well, William effectively banned the UK press from talking about his personal business claiming it’s a human rights violation, but there is no such ban outside the UK. I wouldn’t be surprised if UK tabloids or the Middletons are feeding information to foreign tabloids. This tidbit sounds like it’s coming from Camp Middleton.
I doubt any source, middleton or royal household, would go spouting off to Marca about the ins and outs of will and kate’s marriage. It seems like Marca, much like the rest of us, followed the reports of his alleged temper, paired it with his actions in Spare and put 2 and 2 together and made a story out of it. I have no idea if this is true or not. But it’s definitely believable
They would if they were on their way out.
That sounds about right to me!
My thought is, if they’re gearing up for a split, Kate wants her side and sympathy out there. Might be a leak as a warning shot.
They connected the dots which have been there for all to see for some time .
Well if we hear that Spanish Nanny Maria is leaving we will know where the source came from.
@princessk
Oooh! I didn’t realize Nanny Maria was Spanish!!! She could be the source!!
This article is not being written off like the Valentine dinner with Rose because it’s clear that William and Kate are in a dysfunctional marriage and kate works very little. But I agree that it’s unlikely anything that specific would be told to a Spanish tabloid. If someone did, it’s the Middleton camp, not nanny Maria. She loses her job and reputation if she ever leaked to the press and I suspect she is also very protective of the kids.
PrincessK, my mind also immediately went to the nanny (I hadn’t read your comment yet).
Look, I deeply dislike K’s treatment of Meghan, I believe she does a horrible job with her early years blather, and I just am no fan.
However, I was under the impression that she doesn’t get along with many people, but now I’m wondering if she’s been isolated? Meghan was trapped in the UK, right? And the Sussexes have mostly left K alone. If this is from a real source, someone is terribly worried about K and is circumventing the RR to get W’s nastiness out there.
Please note that the Daily Fail is not publishing the negative excerpts from Jobson’s book about William’s temper.
Typical of The Fail Online.
Oh I can definitely see this coming from camp midda. It’s a get out of work free card. I am too distraught to work . Feel sympathy for me. Plus it also is a hint to Peggs to coughs up some dough for the failed family business. Mama and papa need to drink .
I am in no doubt he is an abusive a-hole. She is also no saint . Meghan has the scars to prove it
As the saying goes, “Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.” Waity Katie set her sights on William, low key stalked him and waited nearly 10 years before being “proposed” to. Nothing like being stuck in a loveless marriage. Another reason for W&K’s hatred for H&M who are deeply in love soul mates. A love for the ages.
Of course William has been verbally abusive to Kate. We’ve been saying that for years. Rage monsters don’t go off the clock so he’s just as bad at home as he is to Harry and Charles.
I believed them until I got to the part about her ‘well known work ethics’ ha!
On a serious note, I absolutely think this is true and just one of the many dark secrets the British media is hiding about him.
Yeah, hard to take them seriously with that line. It makes it easier to see it as a Middleton leak though.
I also had a hard time with “leaving her struggling to cope with the constant pressures of her royal duties.”
We’ve had a lot of victim Kate stories recently. This is the first time William has been blamed. Interesting.
Same. Total eye roll.
Yeah, it was actually that quote about her well-known work ethics that made me think this might be an actual source from camp Middleton. Or they’re trolling her.
Nothing screams fan fiction quite like her work ethic. Although they lost me “and the public” given there has been 0 reporting on any W&K drama here that would give the public anything to react to.
Fully believe he yells at her though (she’s meant to be his special connection and he screams at everyone else, it would be colder if he didn’t) but I direct all my empathy at the kids who are exposed to it and growing up to normalise that dynamic and disrespect.
Yeah, it’s crazy how they’re inventing the story, rather than reporting it. Par for the course, though.
Get v angry when domestic violence is discussed. Those kids face a lifetime of mental scars
That was when I realized this must be a troll article. Or a leak from Camp Middleton.
Same! They had me until that line and then it just felt like the real reason for the story was to garner sympathy for her. I mean I do believe that William is awful and probably treats her terribly, there have been way too many stories about his rage not to believe it at this point but I don’t think this actually came from the source they say it came from. I also don’t think that W&K spend huge amounts of time together at this point. They have so many homes and we’ve seen them arrive separately for multiple events.
No, I think it’s there to make the story more believable to Kate fans, who are are the audience for this.
This felt to me like someone who left their employ some time ago, who talked to a former co-worker and found out things are just as bad as they were. Somehow it got through the gossip chain to this writer.
The UK media HAS reported on their SCREAMING matches, but said Kate gave as good as she got. But it’s been out there.
That spin makes it sound like a Middleton leak.
I believe the British media is covering a lot of Williams nasty and abusive behavior. None of them seemed surprised about his assault on Harry. The media was more peeved that Harry did not stay silent.
I was going to write they lost me at that part.
Although the paid astroturfers call her hard working so maybe this is coming from the middletons.
Maybe Carole’s noticed Kate gets sympathy from people who don’t like her (such as here) when it’s suggested William is abusive. So she thought let’s use that.
Well, she’s lazy. Or she seems like she’s lazy. Or both.
I live abroad, so when I first got to the NLs from the US, most of my friends were members of my husband’s friend group or expats. It took me a few years to make my own Dutch friends, which was helped by having kids.
Who tf are K’s friends beyond people she knows via W? His crew does not accept her—the toffs do not even tolerate her. The reason this accusation (apart from K being a hard worker) seems true is that she’s seemingly not surrounded by many people she can trust or help her. If he’s abusing her (which seems logical crazy as that sounds), then she might have been close to breaking for a while.
Are the sluices breaking open, in time for the coronation?
Fingers crossed.
Is this really the excuse for Kate’s current and continued laziness that they want to go with, that William’s abusive?
Yes and they will use it again because the “defend the white lady victim” narrative works quite well. Even the comments here show it.
Word.
That’s how it read to me, as a new excuse for Keen’s laziness.
YES, @HABH, this is from KKKate’s camp designed to get her out of that dreadful activity known as work (with the exception of movie premieres of course).
EXHIBIT A: “…. leaving her struggling to cope with the constant pressures of her royal duties….”
She is using this to secure vacations and days off. ZERO sympathy from me.
Yes, Willie verbally abuses and insults her. He has been doing that since they met, and she was fine with it all this time, “giving as good as she got”.
Do I think he is physically violent? No. Even he isn’t that stupid. He controlled himself nicely at the Windsor Walkabout, so we know he is capable of it.
I think it depends on how much contempt he feels for her.
See, I don’t think its about “defending the white victim” to consider that Kate might be a victim of abuse, bc I don’t see anyone really defending her besides saying “yeah she probably is.”
I am turnign this story over in my head though, with the excuses for her laziness, and here’s what I think might be happening.
KP/BP is going to spin the separation as something like “royal duties are too much for Kate” or something like that, basically blaming her laziness for the separation. She’s going to stay home and raise the kids bc that what she wants to do.
The Middletons are preparing their counter argument , which is “she’s lazy bc the future king abuses her.”
For me, I think she *might* be a victim (maybe there is no abuse there, we don’t know) but I think she’s lazy regardless. Kind of like how maybe Charles was limiting how much W&K could work, but they are also lazy so really didnt need any help with not working. Basically again, I think several things can be true at once – Kate can be an awful person AND be lazy AND a bully and a victim of abuse.
At the very least we all know its not a healthy marriage.
Yeah, IF Kate is being verbally abused by William, which is possible though we don’t know for sure, it’s unlikely new. The fact that it’s in the papers is new. If its true I hope Kate can get help somewhere. The question is why is it in the papers now? Could be someone read spare and is throwing this out there with a made-up source. Or it could be for the reasons you said @becks1. This makes me kind of uncomfortable bc this article is not about getting Kate help but about explaining why she can’t work more despite her “well-known work ethic.” Again, if its the truth, I hope she gets help but it feels kind of like it’s being used for PR. Both can be true I guess? She’s being verbally abused and is now leaking about it to the press? Is it a cry for help though or something else? Idk.
Becks1, This: “Basically again, I think several things can be true at once – Kate can be an awful person AND be lazy AND a bully and a victim of abuse,” was really well said.
Well said, Becks1. I didn’t think it was racist either. It’s normal to wonder about the wife, girlfriend, and kids when a man of any race is exposed as abusive to someone else, even if not everybody says it out loud. It doesn’t diminish what Harry and Meghan went through.
Her hectic demeanor and public appearances – uncoordinated windy hand gestures + frantic smiles that defy the laws of graciousness and gravity + quasi anorexia and resulting body dysmorphia + difficulties verbalizaing her thoughts as a mature grownup – are indisputable signs of an existential malaise, if not evidence of anti-depressant medication.
Kate is a BOTH a jealous abuser to women who are more beautiful and savvy, AND a marital + institutional abuse victim. She seems to have signed up for the latter.
“Kate’s really been through the wringer lately,” the source shared. “The way William treats her is just awful, and it’s been really hard on her. She’s such a strong person, but even she has her breaking point.”
Coupled with what Harry has shared about Will attacking him and DEMANDING that Harry retaliate I believe this 100%. The regulars here have been saying this for sometime now. That man is horrible and violent and that woman is getting the brunt of it.
What a horrible situation. Again. I am so happy that Harry and Meghan are away from that family and that horrible man.
Not to defend W, but Kate appears to be cut from the same cloth.
Remember the walk about with Meghan where she appeared to physically threaten her?
I’m finding it hard to have empathy for Princess Empathy Bypass herself.
That threatening moment is unforgettable.
Someone on another post said that they believe that William and Kate have a “Who’s Afraid Of Virginia Woolf” type dynamic where they constantly insult and undermine each other. This is what I believe too.
Agreed. There have been a couple times where Kate, in public, was acting aggressively toward William (and b**ching at him) as well. However, I think the only reason William did not react in-kind was because they were in public. I shudder to think what their home life is like.
The look on Meghan’s face at that moment is seared into my memory FOREVER. It was so awful to watch, and to know how much worse things must have been for her BTS if that was how Kate was behaving on camera.
Yes this is the thing. We have seen Kate be physically intimidating toward Meghan. We have also had the media report more than once that Kate “gives as good as she gets”.
I don’t understand why this is such a complicated thing here whenever we have this discussion.
William can be emotionally, verbally and even physically abusive towards Kate AND Kate can still be an awful person who is a bully herself. the latter does not excuse the former. I know people will say things like “well she’s not a shrinking violet” and she “fights back” but given how William attacked Harry, do we think these fights between W&K are equal? At the end of the day he holds the power and she knows it.
@becks1 thanks so much for your comment (all your comments, really). sometimes i feel like you’re the only logic port in a crazy storm.
@becks1 is 100000% correct.
Kate is being controlled and abused. I mean… it’s the only conclusion with all of the stories put out there about William being constantly engorged with rage. It’s never – he’s a fun bloke with a bit of a temper – rage is his entire personality. That leads to only one conclusion. That he is abusive to the people around him.
But Kate is also a bully and a terrible human being. Does her behavior stem from deep unhappiness due to being abused or was she raised to be like this? Don’t know, don’t care. That’s for her and her therapist to figure out.
Kate being a horrible human doesn’t mean she deserves abuse. Kate yelling back at her abuser doesn’t mean she isn’t abused and the power dynamic isn’t skewed terribly against her. It also doesn’t mean that anyone has to suddenly like her or excuse her inexcusable and unforgivable behavior towards Meghan.
Meghan and Harry were and are being abused by his family, her family and the media on the salty island. They do not deserve to be abused.
Kate is a terrible person. End of.
But she doesn’t deserve to be abused either.
Regardless of whether or not she yells back or is a demon of a sister in law, she does not deserve to be abused.
There is no perfect victim.
Just look at how y’all jumped on meghan for hugging Kate as though this was concrete proof that meghan deserved to be treated poorly because she hugs people.
@ Becks1, you are spot on!! The mere suggestion that we should take this article as an excuse as to why KKHate, who has been married to Bullyiam for more than a decade, she still has zero work ethic. Though the possibility of all forms of abuse from Bullyiam doesn’t justify his awful behaviour which has been an issue since childhood. And true, KKHate does not have any power over Willy as he holds all of the power cards as you mentioned.
KKHate is a bully and by the mere physical reaction that Meghan took at the walkabout cemented the rumors of her, as well as Bullyiam, bullying Meghan. No one would physically pull back in the reactionary manner in which Meghan did unless they felt threatened.
KKhates behaviour is ALL on KKHate, as is Bullyiams. As for the “source” of this article, it sounds like typical CarolE in spreading the legwork for the possibility of a separation, or drawing a line in the sand to Bullyiam.
Also, he was physically threatening towards Meghan where she had to tell him to take his finger out of her face…Imagine how he is with Kate….and around his kids….
I think part of the reason he’s so against Meghan is that she had the ‘audacity’ to actually stand up for herself and demand respect at that moment. He’s used to everyone (including his father) letting him treat them with however much disrespect he wants because he’s ‘the Heir’.
Personally, growing up in a black household, general rudeness and disrespect towards elders was not permitted. I blame William’s petulance on Charles’ poor parenting. He never put his foot down about William’s bad behavior. He just accepted it because William is ‘the heir’; hence William’s enormous sense of entitlement. In my household, it would not have mattered if I was the heir. My parents would have set me straight about such bad behavior and told me I wouldn’t have to worry about being the heir to anything if I didn’t straighten up. William’s behavior was never addressed as a child. So now at 40 years old Billy the Basher is now William the Incandescent who feels entitled to verbally abuse and physically threaten people at will.
Charles has never parented his sons. He generally delegated that to his staff.
This. I have never in my life had any man point a finger in my face. Not a father, nor brother, not partner, nor boss, nor colleage, nor friend, not aquaintance. I would consider that an intentionally hostile and intimidating act, and I would consider anyone who did that abusive. For Meghan to stand her ground at that moment took a lot of courage. She was physically threatened by William. Anyone else who did something like that would be called out for certain, and publically. It’s disgusting that this kind of behavior is enabled by the British media.
Twice I had someone do that to me, and both times I tried to bite the finger stuck in my face. You could hear the snap of my teeth closing together in front of it. To say they were shocked is an understatement.
@Anjelica Schuyler (<-I totally sang that while I typed it 😁)
“I think part of the reason he’s so against Meghan is that she had the ‘audacity’ to actually stand up for herself and demand respect at that moment. He’s used to everyone (including his father) letting him treat them with however much disrespect he wants because he’s ‘the Heir’.”
All of this. The first rule of narcissists is never tell them no. Never put up a boundary between their behavior and your needs. Never put your wellbeing above their need for attention.
Meghan set her boundary and said no we’re not doing that to William and his ragey finger. William the Narcissist took that as an act of war.
“My parents would have set me straight about such bad behavior and told me I wouldn’t have to worry about being the heir to anything if I didn’t straighten up.”
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 AngelicaSchuyler, were your parents friends of mine? Or of my grandma? LOL!!!
I’ve been saying for years and my comments never got posted.
Those to the wrist , high neck 70’s secretary dresses she randomly wears are a classic cover the bruises move.
Is she an awful human? Yes.
Does she deserve to be abused? No.
Great point about the dresses, Moxylady. And I agree she is awful but no one deserves abuse.
Oh, wow. If that’s true (and I’m not sure how we’d ever know) it’s not fair to say that she’s giving as good as she gets. That’s abuse, no two ways about it. As for her bullying Meghan, I’m not trying to excuse it so I hope I don’t get yelled at for this, but children who bully are often being bullied at home, right? Kate has never for one moment in her life been independent. It makes sense that between her mother controlling her and her husband abusing her that she’d turn her fury on someone perceived as less powerful. (Note, perceived and perceived most incorrectly). Doesn’t take more than psych 101 to recognize these patterns, but that doesn’t excuse her behaviors. She’s in her 40s and no longer cognitively a child even if she is emotionally.
I never considered the fashion choices covering up abuse, but can totally believe it as more and more surfaces about William.
Good point. It makes me think of that quote from a journalist that stuff they aren’t able to print about william ‘would make your eyes bleed’.
Your comment about her dresses makes so much sense and I’m afraid might be true. As others have said, no one deserves to be abused. But feelings about Kate are definitely mixed because of the way she treated Meghan. I will predict that if she has bruises I’ll bet that she is documenting them with photos. This could help her get a better deal in a separation or divorce. Kate does not want to be relegated to a small house that is isolated. Also, I’m very afraid that the children have seen W&K act horribly towards each other.
I think they’re getting all this ‘William and Kate’ stuff out of the way because they believe Harry will eventually spill it and they’re all getting paranoid.
Why would Harry write about someone else’s marriage. Spare deals only with things that happened to him.
Harry won’t spill it but the tabloids are champing at the bit to spill. One of the tabloid reporters actually commented about Pegg’s terrible temper and alluded to the fact that he knew stuff about him that would chill you to the bone (I’m paraphrasing). I do think that after this stupid 3-ring circus of a clowning is over, the tabloids are going to start releasing more and more damning information on the BRF, especially Pegg. He’s got a well-deserved reputation as a vile-tempered, arrogant jerk, and even though the tabloids have kept silent for the most part, he’ll go too far one of these days and receipts will drop.
@tamsin … I didn’t say that ‘I’ thought Harry would spill the beans, I said the Windsors and Palace aides, who surely know all the dirt and where every body is buried, believe he will spill the beans. People are always paranoid about ‘you’ (universal you) doing to them what they do to you. I don’t believe Harry would ever talk about anything like that related to William or anyone else.
Um no, this isn’t Harry’s business to tell.
Well that probably is true but can’t was desperate and focused all at the same time to catch Peg. I think that Can’t gives as good as she gets. What is this work ethic and dedication to her work crap. The projection continues.
This is a get out of “work” card being played. I have no doubt that if Harry saw or even thought Kate was being abused he would say something.
Its the Middling PR doing its thing.
You don’t flinch away from your husband’s touch on a public show if everything’s okay. Kate is definitely aware that every flicker of her eyelids is scrutinized for information. That, to me, was the gesture of a woman who was fed up.
The reason why that gesture didn’t receive the scrutiny it should have is that Meghan and Harry were so loved up at the time. It made the Failings Wailes look bad. Without Meghan present to rag on, the camera turns back to the other Expendables of the royal family–the married-ins. And unlike Meghan, Kate has made no effort to curry a community of powerful women on her behalf. She hasn’t even courted the media like Camilla. She is completely subject to the royal family and their messaging. She’s the one with the vulnerability that everyone wanted and expected Meghan to have. The royals can’t really ruin Meghan. They have tried for 7 years and she still stands, she’s still popular, she’s still rich, and she controls her own destiny. But who is Kate without the royal family? Nothing and nobody. That, to me, has been her biggest mistake since joining the royal family. Whether she’s just dumb and narcissistic, or whether she thinks she can be liked by studiously making herself small enough to avoid her husband’s jealousy, she has really dropped that ball. She’s dropped the ball just as much as those stay at home moms and tiktok stay at home girlfriends who let their husbands have all the control over the finances. It works until it doesn’t. If the man bungles the finances in any way, or if he meets someone else and wants to discard the wife/girlfriend, she has no protection. She’s completely at his mercy. No woman in 2023 should be at the complete and utter mercy of a man–I’m not saying it’s wrong to be a SAHM–but SAHMs need to be partners in the relationship to lesson the opportunities for financial abuse. Kate is no partner. She’s completely at the mercy of a rage monster and narcissist.
While many of what you write might be true, I disagree with few of your comments :1) “She is completely subject to the royal family and their messaging. She’s the one with the vulnerability ..”.if she were, she wouldn’t have made the palace to make a statement of refusal about wiglets and botox (that’s where her priorities lay), 2)”She hasn’t even courted the media”. Her mother definitely has, and 3) as far as a potential financial abuse, the numerous clothes and jewelry she buys and wears only once or twice could easily be sold and would probably ensure a certain economic independence. And where is her so called close – knit family that supports her? Why are they allowing this kind of treatment?
@FirstComment – the statement of refusal about wiglets and botox and the Tatler article etc was all done with the permission of KP and the permission of William. That’s where the vulnerability lies. If KP stops defending her, she’s on her own. Her mother has courted the media but she does not have the media connections Camilla has. Kate’s biggest defender in the press is…..Camilla Tominey?
But she is always trying in vain to grab hold of his hand in public.
Kate could get some money for selling clothes, sure, but not enough for the security she will need for the rest of her life as the mother of the future king. Not enough to live at the standard she lives now. Her jewels likely don’t belong to her anyway–even the “gifts” are likely owned by the crown and not her personally. Her parents are amateurs when it comes to courting the media, and they don’t have any power either. Kate has no connections, no influence, and no money outside the royal family, and that is dangerous for her. Queens Leticia and Maxima each have a collection of influencial people in their corner–they came into the royal family as successful working women, and they have skills they can fall back on if need be. Kate has zero legit work experience–1 part time job for 3 months does not equal work experience. She has no ability to manage life on her own because she’s never had to do it before. She’s the “popular” duchess, but she’s treated like a child at best. She has not used her position to gain any influence or any personal standing. She has achieved nothing in her own name–even Diana had connections and Diana had tangible causes and achievements. Kate has earned zero respect on her own merits, and that’s her fault.
@lanne actually, I think Maxima still has an active career outside of the RF. I think both her and Wilhelm work for the UN. I’m not sure if they get paid, but if he suddenly put her out, there won’t be any gaps in her resume.
Kate can always call Tom Cruise. 🙂
@Lanne, kate, IF she is being abused can for once actually play Diana and get a good settlement. Hear me out…I’m not about to sob sister that woman (and she is a woman, not a girl) Kate does not have the usual excuses not to leave. She is far from isolated; its not like she would have nowhere to go or no way to feed her kids. She has family. I will assume she has friends. She can buy a plane ticket and refuse to return. She has more options than any abused woman I have ever known.
The press would eat it up OR Charlie (and Billy) would pay to keep her quiet.
‘Kate does not have the usual excuses not to leave’ – really not down with this sentiment. Using ‘excuses’ instead of ‘reasons’ is a weird way to phrase this, as tho they aren’t real reasons. Secondly, when I was with my abusive partner, I had somewhere to go, I was the only one making any money, and whilst slightly more isolated than I had maybe been in the past I still had a strong support network and family around me. It still took 6 attempts to leave, because it isn’t as simple as not having many practical obstacles. I was terrified, I’d been threatened many times before when trying to leave, and I truly was so worn down I couldn’t see any way to extract myself and my daughter, it felt utterly hopeless and I was resigned to a life of misery.
This is no comment on Kate’s situation as I have no idea abiut that other than the same speculation as everyone else. But just really don’t like the framing of that as excuses and ignoring the painful nuance of trying to leave an abusive relationship. Maybe I’m being over sensitive but it would be nice if some of the commenters here were a big more thoughtful in these types of conversations.
When you put it like that….man did Kate misstep by making Meg the enemy. Meg would’ve been such a great ally and could’ve been a gateway to other amazing women in positions she could’ve also had in her corner. Meg’s friends played a clear role in keeping her sane and helped her Harry escape. As far as we know, Kate has not networked and acquired allies in high places….in fact she’s made an enemy of the aristos now too.
If W/RF decide to dump her and lay these past 5 years at her feet….there’s not much stopping them.
You make a great point about how Meghan could and would have been a strong ally. Meg would absolutely have done everything she could to help Kate, but instead received Will’s pass-along anger and hatred.
If we’re figuring there is abuse, then Meghan would be even more of a threat to William for those reasons. Abusers like to keep their victims dependent on them and isolated. a woman like Meghan who first would have seen what was happening and been appalled by it and who could have helped Kate would have been a big problem for William, popularity and charisma and work ethic aside.
that’s also something that makes me think the abuse is verbal/emotional and not physical. I think if Harry knew W was putting hands on Kate he would not make excuses for him or defend him. But if he only sees a few isolated incidents (remember, Harry said that they did not hang out that much, he rarely saw them at KP, etc) he might just pass it off as “william’s temper” or “Willy being Willy again.” We know Harry said something to Meghan that was so bad she was ready to walk if he didn’t get help and that it was something he learned from his family.
Meghan might have very quickly picked up on the W&K situation as being emotional abuse while Harry didn’t view it as such. And that would be problematic.
Seems to me like a strike from camp Middleton….
“…especially given Kate Middleton’s well-known work ethic and dedication to her royal duties”
Anyone want to check Mama M’s outgoing calls for international ones?
I will never understand their PR approach. This absolutely sounds like it came from Camp Middleton, but why are they floating stories of Kate being in an abusive marriage? Even if true, that goes against everything they’ve worked for for decades to get Kate that crown. Was Princess of Wales the end game and now they’re angling for a divorce? How would it look at William’s coronation if there are rumors flying that he’s abusing his wife? How does this benefit the Middletons? If suddenly they’re more concerned about Kate’s welfare than their own social climbing, why bother with leaked stories? Just support her in leaving her abusive husband.
She’s already left or been evicted by William.
They’re worried William wants a divorce. They’re trying to make Kate look like the victim. I think the peg story came from the middletons, it was designed to make Kate look better. And they wouldn’t have dared do that if Kate and William were still together.
That would suggest they’ve given up on Kate being queen and are focused on getting out with the best reputation possible. If the Middletons successfully flood the media with stories of him cheating, having a submission kink, and being abusive, there’s hardly a benefit to having Kate stay by his side even if he needs her for his PR.
“ If the claims are true, there are serious implications for her ability to continue fulfilling her responsibilities”
It’s this last sentence for me. Sounds like it’s setting the reasons for a separation!
And I do think we can safely assume that everyone around William is being abused in some way because even his fawning rota buddies describe him – constantly – as being incandescent, raging, angry, furious, etc. So many articles talk about his temper that he would shut it down if he wanted to (like he did with the affairs), so he must not even care that the world knows he’s a violent rage monster.
That’s the line that stood out to me, too. That, plus the Middletons’ increasingly desperate attempts to offload their business (despite William’s ability to help financially if he wanted) suggest things are not going well for the Waleses.
This is the exactly how I imagined they would begin the rollout of the ‘Kate cannot emotionally cope with the pressures of her life and continue to do her royal duties” separation groundwork.
Remember when she moved to Adelaide the rota were tweeting that she was going to focus on her children until they were grown and do more solo engagements? I think that was the plan for her to fade out, but Harry blew that up by outing Willy as a physical abuser, so Kate was forced to accompany Willy more to make things look peachy keen. Once that con-a-nation ends Kate can disappear like she wants to.
@Harper Well now, that is an interesting theory. I bet the queen dying when she did, along with the Sussex’s obvious solidarity with each other during the funeral events, really messed up their plan.
Between King Camilla ramping up her shenanigans once she is fully in power and the War of the Wales, the post-coronation months will be very interesting.
I wonder if some of Camilla’s family will be declared working royals to take some of the load!
The last line stood out to me as well. And while it could be about an impending separation, I took it as an excuse for Kate not doing more work events. As in, don’t criticize her low work numbers, she has a well-known work ethic, but William’s verbal abuse is preventing her from doing more. It’s not her fault; it’s William’s. I have no idea if William is or is not abusing Kate. It’s obviously possible. But this part of the article seems more concerned about boosting Kate’s image than getting her any actual help.
I have known couples who argue,yell and belittle each other in public all their married life.
They have been together for a very long time .
It’s just the way they are .
It’s uncomfortable being around them .
BUT if someone was to criticize one of them,the would ould jump in to defend them.
Its a weird thing but that’s how some marriages work.
There was nothing at all fictional about Joffrey Lani . . Baratheon. He was merely a composite. In this day and age, there’s a limit to what a petulant, ragey prince can get away with, but that’s a 20th century development. Imagine what William would be like in an era with no media and no real laws governing his behavior.
Firstly its no stretch to think that someone who is known to verbally harass and abuse his own brother and father would do the same to his wife and children. This is the what the Mids have on him but his behaviour has been known for years so maybe not the smoking gun they think it is. Secondly this def came from the Mid camp as a warning – they know the UK tabs won’t print it and the European rags have not for the first time printed the reality. The international press are the reason we know that they rented out a whole island and had his friends there during their honeymoon.
This is also to combat the bad press she’s been getting at home lately – esp on SM as am sure they are hoping it will get picked up by the stans and get it trending over Karriet Tubman.
The work ethic lie is definitely something camp Middleton would put out there along with the suggestion that William is abusive.
Is he disdainful of Kate, yes, we see it all the time, but we don’t know anything more than that and Harry never said William was abusive to Kate. He portrayed them working together and William is the one who put his finger in Meghan’s face over the hormone comment which was defending Kate. Again was it rude? Sure, but that wasn’t abuse.
A lot of people want to paint kate as an abuse victim to justify why she has been such an awful witch to Meghan. But there is nothing to confirm this. Besides kate is fully participating in this portrayal of a “happy marriage” and it’s not like she doesn’t have options.
So I do doubt that there is physical abuse, just because I think that would give the Middletons the upper hand here. the future king beats his wife? that would be a HUGE issue for the monarchy. “just” verbal or emotional abuse – that’s obviously very bad but I think that would be explained away by William being “driven” and “passionate” and yes yes that pesky temper but who can blame him bc of XYZ?
But on the flip side…..it would give the Middletons the upper hand and it might explain why there is no divorce, why Kate does not seem to be going anywhere some days, etc. If they out the future king as an abuser…..again, huge problem for the monarchy.
now the OTHER flip side of that is how gross if her parents are essentially forcing her to stay in a marriage with a man who abuses her because they like the perks that come with her marriage.
IDK. no one really knows what happens in a marriage. I stand by earlier comment that Kate being an awful person who is a bully does not automatically mean she is not a victim of abuse. Maybe she isn’t, but considering how he treats everyone around him…..its possible.
IDK, I feel like the palace would spin any Middleton report of Willy putting his hands on Kate as him trying to get an out-of-control Kate to calm down, or as a protective measure before she hurts herself or one of the kids. Remember these are the people who told the world that our gentle, goofy, girly-girl, uber-hard-working and respectful Meghan was really a scheming, rude, bullying, attention-seeking beeyotch who didn’t understand the pecking order. I don’t really think the Middletons can win from any angle they come at the palace with.
Women being abused is written off every single day and blamed on the woman.
If she has photos etc. that would be helpful but even then … the media would cry that it’s fake and Kate is doing her best to blah blah blah.
Kate is an awful person. I have believed and do believed she is being abused in a myriad of ways. Her being awful isn’t an out for her abuser. That said …. I don’t think with the media backing W that anything will stick about it. Internationally yes.
I agree, @becks1. I really dislike the “she gives as good as it gets” talk because I think it’s being used (not necessarily by posters, but by the media in general) as legitimizing whatever treatment she may be lashing back at. It makes her equally culpable, and there’s a huge power differential here physically, financially, and culturally (William has an entire media supporting him).
But that doesn’t excuse her own shitty behavior, or absolve her from her own shitty choices. Kate can be a victim of emotional, and perhaps even physical abuse, and still be called out for her own selfish, cruel, and petty actions. The entire royal family is a toxic intitution–it’s been proven over and over again. Kate seems to be someone who punches down. That’s nothing new. How many white women in the Jim Crow US had horrible or abusive marriages, and then turned around and treated their black maids and nannies like shit? (Hell, you don’t even have to go back to Jim Crow to see that). Meghan was ranked lower than her, and I think Kate was counting on having her as a punching bag until she was forced to leave–with as much humiliation as possible. I’d bet money on Kate being just as angry that the Sussexes left as Charles and William. She was probably relishing the chance to play her part in breaking Meghan down. It would be a reward for taking shit from her husband.
It’s true that narcissistic abuse rarely escalates to the point of actual, physical violence, since gaslighting/verbal rage is the preferred tactic. But it does happen. According to this article I’m reading, “restraint” — physically blocking exits, grabbing, shaking, etc — is the “point of no return.” When “restraint” stops intimidating the partner, the abuser will then escalate to physical aggression. He already hit his brother.
@Moxylady It’s not just that William has media backing. He has government backing. It’s His Majesty’s Court Service. Think about what we’ve learned about the Met police recently. It’d be a pretty big gamble for Kate to rely on the legal system for protection from the future king.
Is it possible that Kitty is the victim of physical abuse who covers it up with long sleeves and high necklines? Yes.
Is it probable that Kitty is the victim of physical abuse when she informed RR the hardest thing she’s ever lived through is walking around with Meghan after QEII death? No.
“they are hoping it will get picked up by the stans and get it trending over Karriet Tubman.”
If this is what the Middletons expect from those “stans” they are completely deluded about the kind of support Keen will get if Peg divorces her.
Now I’m really starting to wonder why Meghan said Kate was a good person or whatever she said. Kate was going through something during the bridesmaids fitting that Meghan has not shared. We’ve assumed it was that she found out about the Rose affair, but what if it was something else or in addition to that? Maybe Kate and William had had a terrible fight, where William did as William does, and Kate was upset about that? Maybe “baby brain” is too close to something William calls her, like “scatterbrained” or whenever he wants to be dismissive of Kate he calls her “hormonal”? Or he teases her about always having “baby on the brain” or something stupid and it is just another way that he belittles her? The plot thickens. Doesn’t give Kate the right to then turn around and abuse Meghan, and that is precisely what she does and has done, but I’m just trying to put it in context.
I believe this. It doesn’t excuse Kate from her behavior toward H&M, but I truly believe her home life with William is hell. She has always bent over backwards to please him, but he is never pleased. And you can tell he’s just as unpleasant as we all imagine, since nobody ever bothers to say that he’s a *nice guy* or *fun* or anything positive. He has a terrible personality, he is lazy, and he seems awkward and distant and controlling. I’ve long assumed that he picks out Kate’s clothes (because you’d better believe that Diana cos-play would not be happening without his approval) and I bet he criticizes every little thing she does behind closed doors. That’s why she always looks afraid and sounds like a fool when she speaks. They’ve been away from work for a month (!) and we didn’t even get any fake stories about their enjoyable vacation or whatever. The press is keeping a tight lid on whatever is going on with the Wales family, but in my opinion it is much too tight a lid and the absence of information and stories is starting to create a Streisand effect in the press. Will and Kate are one of the most famous couples on the planet, but they are NEVER seen or heard from unless they’re on an official outing. That’s weird to me, especially since I’m old enough to remember the frenzy around Diana.
I think he is also hell to work for, and if there is a royal bully in KP it has always been William.
” The press is keeping a tight lid on whatever is going on with the Wales family, but in my opinion it is much too tight a lid and the absence of information and stories is starting to create a Streisand effect in the press. ”
All of the above! The media has contained Will and Kate in a tight box. The Wales were unseen for a whole month and not one rota rat wrote about their whereabouts.
I have honestly been thinking about this. I didn’t like the article that was printed awhile back that said that during arguments Kate gives as good as she gets. What does that mean? Hopefully this woman is not being abused.
Yes, Etha, exactly. There have been so many articles about this recently, with build up. It used to be that William is passionate; then hostile; then that he and Kate have strong debates, with her holding her ground; and then an awful one about how they throw things at each other. That article was the one that made me think something serious had been witnessed by a member of staff or family, and I wondered when this would start being drip fed to the press. They were getting ahead of the stories coming out by half way admitting that these two are volatile-ish, if such a thing exists.
This is definitely a shot across the bow from the Middleton faction.
Harry said, in his own words in Spare, that Meghan asked him if he’d seen whatever bad behavior he’d shown her on a particular night modeled by the men in his own life, and Harry said yes. I do think both boys were given the lesson to treat girlfriends/wives as poorly as they can get away with. The difference is that William took notes on how to do it while Harry put down the pencil and walked away.
I think William is probably absolutely impossible to deal with. I dislike Kate immensely, but I do hope that one day she has the realization that she can have the same social cachet (and maybe even better!) if she stands up for herself and leaves his dumb ***. Sell a book or two of your own and spend some money how you like. Live the life she’s so jealous that Meghan wakes up to every day.
*sigh* here I go defending Kate. Y’all don’t come for me, ok?
I believe this story. Not about her “well known work ethic and dedication to her royal duties” + she’s a known bitch, etc…
BUT I watched a former co-worker go thru a very emotional and verbal abuse and she went from healthy and happy and bubbly to withdrawn and scary skinny. Just like Kate. She just shut down. Stopped eating lunch with us, wouldn’t come to any gatherings we had, just went dark.
She quit her job and just went ghost. One of my friends ran into her sister recently and she told her she had a full on breakdown, spent time in a mental health facility and worked her a$$ off to get better, starting with a divorce but it’s an ongoing deal because she really suffered at the hands of her ex
I have a hard time working up sympathy for Kate, and I know this is the life she chose (and was chosen for her by dear old Mom) but I wonder how much longer before she snaps.
It would explain why Meghan defended her. I bet that is what chafes Kate most though is that Meghan (married only to the spare) feels sorry for her.
Yes, Kate probably feels that Meghan should envy her because she’s going to be Kweeeeeen one day – not pity her because her husband treats her so horribly. Oh well..
This rings true. Meghan’s sympathy probably makes her angry.
I’m with those who believe Kate is at least verbally abused by William—and she directs her own rage at Meghan.
He’s a terrible a**hole and bully and she’s a bully, too. As Becks1 says all of those things can be true. I feel awful for their kids … not least because it’s not going to be pretty when the truth comes out.
These allegations somewhat like the ‘pegging’ story works in William’s favour, for one simple reason: the timing.
There has been an established pattern from Princess Diana and more recently with the Duchess of Sussex of the ‘drip, drop effect of ‘leaks”..
Every negative effect to their marriagr due to William’s behaviour will be in the public domain.
This way Kate will be without a ‘bombshell’ to spring against him in the event of a split and divorce.
Carole Middleton and Uncle Gary’s last effective outings to the media were in response to his horrible behaviour after the Sussexes left.
Kate claimed that it was untenable, he was up raging and drinking, she was at her wits end and down to 90 pounds.
This was revealed while the tabloids brayed and spewed their lies about Meghan, hoping that abuse will send Harry into their metaphoric arms.
What followed??
‘Bretton Woods’ type adverts of a loving family.
Cue in the video.
Kate is expendable, that mean she can easily be scapegoated and labeled.
This is a return to a time when Meghan and Harry were unavailable for media abuse.
This item is not about facts, especially if would be in her favour, it is simply a strategy in place, should the need for Kate to be replaced.
Is this a way for Camp M to blackmail Peg into giving them money for PP?
Camp Middleton: now you’ve got your PR angle if you need it to go against Williams, increasing bid to blame Sussexit on Kate….
Kate’s willfully ignorant, hateful and complicit. She and Willy fully support each other’s ugliness. Do I think anyone should be abused, no. Do I believe the tabloids, no. I can suspect both abuse each other but I’d need reliable receipts.
I was thinking Marca finally published a believable story. Then they threw in that part about Kate’s strong work ethic, and I was like, nope. This must be bs too. But I’m sure it’s true whether they have an actual source or not.
I think Kate believes her work is to buy and wear clothes and have her hair done, so I will give her credit for really consistently putting in the effort buying coat dresses and hair pieces.
I mean, if he’s abusive and bullying to Harry, it stands to reason that he acts the same way towards his wife. It makes me wonder if the real reason that the bullying investigation was not published is because they found that William was the real bully not Meghan.
And Harry can fight back if he chooses. William is bigger and stronger than Kate. It’s not exactly an equal match. I hold no brief for Kate, but no woman should be abused by a man, even a possible future king.
I don’t think Harry can fight back. I mean in every sense. Isn’t it treason to hit the heir to the throne of a kingdom? No one cares if he hits you first. William uses that.
Can you imagine those two in court against each other? The discovery phase would be fascinating.
@AmyBee I 100% think that is why the bullying investigation was not published or even really leaked. If it made Harry or Meghan look even a little bit bad, at least a part of it would have leaked. As it is though, it probably made william look awful (and prob Kate too bc I imagine she is not fun to work for) and so it had to be buried.
There have literally been stories printed about how William has a volatile temper and a tendency to explode on his staff, but it is excused with “he always apologizes” as if that makes his behaviour less abhorrent. Like I’ve said elsewhere, I think the royal bully at KP has always been William.
It seems to be that William has a temper and is thus verbally abusive to many people.
I’m really sceptical about this… will is definitely abusive, no doubt about it. Is he abusive towards Kate? He could be. Their marriage is in tatters judging by their faces and gestures. They can’t stand each other obviously. Several articles report that Kate gives as good as she gets.. so, it’s a really toxic relationship. As far as the children are concerned, they seem pretty close to William (I’d say they are closer to him than her) ..so, I can’t imagine William being abusive towards them (not that it’s impossible).
The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee was in 2012, a year after Kate and William got married. One of the events was a flotilla and Kate got the order she was supposed to step on the royal boat wrong. Instead of helping her or being remotely kind about it, William gave her a look that could kill. I can’t remember if he also physically restrained her. I remember thinking, ‘If he treats her that way in public, I can only guess how much of a sh*t he is behind closed doors’.
Do you have a link to the video ?
I’ve looked but can’t find it. It was a brief moment but I’ve never forgotten it.
I remember. Kate was wearing red. Will was pissed the entire event.
Was that also when he didn’t hold up an umbrella for her?
Well, we’ve seen how William’s “humour” always involves belittling someone else. We’ve seen he’s self-absorbed, flies into a rage, and blames anyone else but himself if things go wrong. We’ve seen how Kate flinches at his touch. We’ve heard how he attacked his brother in secret and then tried to silence him. To me, that was the most chilling part – “Don’t tell Meg”. It’s a classic abuser tactic, and it suggests that this is his modus operandi. So no, I would not be surprised to see those toxic patterns we’ve already seen play themselves out in this family with William at the centre.
Do I think this tabloid has insider information? Not really, I think they are reading the same tea leaves we do. But will the British tabloids pick up the story? Somehow I doubt it – much better to write another 23 stories about “How Meghan insulted the Queen’s memory by not coming to the coronation”.
I think this is a way for the RR who are Team Middleton to leak stories. They float it with one of the European trashy publications which gives them plausible deniability if it goes wrong. However if the story gains traction, they then later get to claim the scoop.
This has Camilla Tominey’s mitts all over it….
I’m not sure I believe it’s Tominey. At this point, Camilla Tominey comes off as more of a sussex hater than a Kate-lover. Don’t get me wrong. She’ll blow smoke up Kate’s butt in an article, but I imagine that’s about keeping her source happy so she’ll continue to get information. And of course she’s a Kate supporter but I just don’t think she’d go so far as to call up a Spanish tabloid. But maybe I’m wrong. However, I absolutely can see Carole or someone close to her using the European tabloids to get out the PR that they want. Especially, if KP isn’t defending kate anymore.
Absolutely, William was always putting Harry down and belittling him.
The thing that still leaves me feeling that William is awful was when shortly after Archie’s birth he was asked in public how it felt to have a nephew for the first time, and he turned round and said that he already had one, referring to Pippa’s son.
What on earth was stopping him from saying something sweet about his blood nephew??
The answer to your last question is most likely racism. William didn’t even want to acknowledge the existence of his new nephew. That is fucked up and I fully believe that is because of racism, like he can’t bear to think about being blood related to someone with black heritage.
Kate who supposedly loves babies ignored Archie on the polo field outing and did not let Louis go to see him
Will never forget the early years expert pointedly ignoring baby Archie while Meghan stood alone. That was brutally unkind.
My opinion is that they are both awful.
Remember his nickname for her “Duchess Do-little” (I know the Queen was the first to say this), and hers for him “Baldy”? Not very lovely and loving nicknames. This info came before Meghan, came from RR who didn’t think it was a big deal. We also got the info about them screaming at each other, so these two deserve each other totally. Maybe he is more violent than she is, I don’t know.
On the petty side – I like to watch him suffer while she is trying to speak publicly.
An abusive environment can turn someone abusive. Kate has her own issues to contend with and is an all-around horrendous person but that does not justify her being abused in any way.
Wait, what. It doesn’t have to be learned. I birthed a kinda angry kid and she figure out all that stuff on her own. That said, it sounds like his father won’t be a great role model in learning how to manage anger (which is really irritability, anxiety, inflexibility, etc).
So they’re trying out a new line as to why Kate doesn’t work: “… especially given Kate Middleton’s well-known work ethic [] and dedication to her royal duties. … there are serious implications for her ability to continue fulfilling her responsibilities.”
Oh my have you all seen the rage on k8 mug. She’s no joy to live with. Feel sorry for her, are you kidding me???. If she is so innocent, why would she hang all over harry in front of a rage monster. Please.
This story’s really sad. I was emotionally abused for a long time in my marriage, and I’m going to be dealing with the PTSD for a while.
Two things can be true at once: a person can be racist, lazy, and entitled AND be living in hell at home. No one deserves emotional abuse. It’s like being internally rewired and turned into a ghost of yourself.
I’ve been there too and it took me a few years and therapy to get my self-esteem back to normal, I felt like an empty shell. It doesn’t matter that Kate is a jealous, lazy, conniving mean-girl, Willnot clearly treats her badly, so badly that their relationship is an obvious farce. Had she married someone who treated her with affection and respect, I believe she’d be a completely different person.
She was jealous and a conniving mean-girl before William. I don’t know if she’d be a completely different person, but she would have less staff and less people to bully do to rank.
I believe that Kate has been absurd by Egg, and I also believe that she’s being kicked out of the family and Thai is the Middleton justification for why she will eventually stop doing royal events.
This part gives it away: “If the claims are true, there are serious implications for her ability to continue fulfilling her responsibilities.”
Abuse from William also explains why after a decade plus in her role, she can’t give a simple speech without mumbling and fidgeting through. She probably has no real support system at home and is in her head about how she’ll hear it from William if she flops.
Look Khate had a strong work ethic at university, that one was to hook William. Her second bout of work ethic was to have her children. Third bought of work ethic, to bully and belittle Megan! That’s ALL she has worked hard at.
Now, do I believe this came from Ma middleton, HELL YES, do I believe William screams and abuses Khate YES, that’s why it hit him like a punch in his gut when Megan stood her ground and told him to “remove his finger from her face”. And THAT is why I believe he told Harry to “not tell Megan”, maybe he was afraid of what she would do, after all ALL bullies are cowards at heart. But does Kate give as good as she gets, YES YES YES. THIS leaked article is a shot across the bows, it’s telling William “we WILL spill the beans on you”, the separation is already in place, it’s the details that are being ironed out, hence this “threat”, there are only 3 people I feel sorry for, and that’s the children. Watch them, as I have the next time they are out and about. I don’t mean the staged pictures, I mean out, George has circles under his eyes and looks drained all the time, Charlotte always seems to have the fingers on one hand crossed, and Luis looks like there is something inside him bursting to get out. Mischief and mayhem I expect, poor souls
I’ve just sat through an entire diatribe about Meghan being a narcissist and how it’s bad to ‘tell ‘ on one’s family no matter what. This includes abuse. Don’t tell it’s bad. Tell the women murdered by partners whose kids are traumatised by what they witness. Nothing stops these men till it’s too late
Makes sense that Team Kate went to this publication. Likely Carol(E).
Kate is on a PIP (performance improvement plan) with all this negative press and Rose rollout. I can see Team Kate is feeling vulnerable.
But Marca is considered in Spain a sports newspaper (mainly football/soccer and Real Madrid) so I don’t understand why they’re publishing this for team Kate!
Kate is no strong individual if she finds it so hard to walk with her sister-in-law. And this devotion to royal duties, oh please. She only does it all because he has to. She’d rather be smoking, drinking, shopping and working out to maintain her zero body fat. She and her mother chased this stunted man for years. Lie in the bed you made.
I believe this. I think Carol(e) put this out there. I’m one of the last people to ever believe a divorce/separation is happening but I do now. About 90 days after the coronation we’ll hear they separated. The Middletons will not go down quietly.
The work ethic fanfic aside in this article, I totally believe that he’s an abuser.
Remember what she used to look like during the paddle board days? The Canadian visit with the yellow dress and slew of Marilyn moments? Field hockey photo ops? Girlfriend had muscles and she’s wasted away I think from years of just being ground down.
How does she cope? She buys shit. She tries to pretend everything is great and before in her head at least she was pretty and fit the mold and at least looked the part of a perfect wife and mother. Then the Rose thing happened and band aid baby didn’t fix it and here we are. She has no real identity. The children are essentially the property of the crown and she’s trapped.
I think we saw the gradual loss of her shine and confidence because of the way he is. I think it’s also the reason that she could kind of gleefully latch onto any other male in her sphere that paid attention to her and was somewhat nice to her. Remember Ben? This is also why it was such a gut punch when Harry wasn’t going to be around to be the third wheel anymore. Her shield was gone. Harry acted like a buffer for the rage and cutting comments no doubt.
Is she calculating and bitchy and Waity in her pathetic way that she chased him? Totally. To some extent she largely made her bed, but I don’t think the way that Bulliam is now was what she signed up for. I’m sure he throws her around and says awful things to her. (Prairie sack dresses to cover marks) How does a couple look LESS content with each other after three kids and all of this time together? Happy couples complement one another and vibe more over time.
Your comment paints the picture exactly. Therapy would do wonders for the entire family. I have been concerned about the dark circles under George’s eyes for a while now, but did not notice Charlotte crossing her fingers. Louis is a whole other kettle of fish and I wonder if he is going to be Billy Basher all over again. If all of this is the facts, then Kate can look at Diana for the template of her future.
“Insiders within the royal family have been divulging a lot of controversial information lately….”
^ THIS, RIGHT HERE, IS THE SUM OF THE CENTURIES-OLD PROBLEM OF THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY, WHICH THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES. Its the monster they created and have now lost control of.
That line is the first sentence of the quoted article in the blurb of this thread. This monster of ‘who controls the narrative’ was birthed back in the day when the senior staffers of the british monarchy, convinced the monarch of the day (and every monarch thereafter and their offspring) that THEY (the family and monarchy) were the ones who will determine how their history is told……THEY are the ones who will decide the who, what, when, where, how and why of things. Case in point: when George V died, the senior courtiers and doctor were the ones who determined the manner and time of his death and gave the media that falsehood.
And througout their history, the british born-royals, aka the royal family, in cahoots with their senior staffers, lied shamelessly to the media and hence their people, ALWAYS with the agenda of making themselves look good. We heard recently, for example, that charles was off hunting mushrooms when his mother died; but theres been pushback against that narrative, with the narrative favored by the palace being that charles and Anne were by their mother’s side when she died.
And, of course, we have Spare, in which Prince Harry gives “chapter and verse” (as the saying goes) of how this particular sausage is made.
So inevitably, we got to the point where the senior staffers (the professional ancestors of the bee, the wasp and the fly as Prince Harry so aptly named them) started to believe, as power-hungry folks everywhere inevitably do, that THEY were the ones who actually ran the monarchy: they tell the monarch what to do and hence, they tell the entire royal family what to do/where to go/who to speak to/etc.
Until, as we now have it, the line of demarcation between the natural, royal-born members of the BRF vs the senior staffers (and now everyone, including the chambermaid and scullery boy) who work for them, has been so blurred over time that now, no one knows where the one stops and the other begins.
Its a classic tale:
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
– Animal Farm (final chapter) By George Orwell.
So well expressed and written. The Media are in charge of the BRF and have been for decades. What would be the rehab for this particular addiction?
I’ve heard Kate threatened Meghan at the walkabout. However, I’ve watched it several times and haven’t seen it. Meghan was definitely scared and uncomfortable in that situation but I must be missing Kate threatening her.
Is someone able to provide a link or timestamp?
Not doubting, just curious.
When they got out of the car, Kate glared at Meghan so angrily it was like daggers were coming out of her eyes. She physically lunged towards her to the point where William had to step in between her and Meghan. Meghan looked visibly shook and upset, and Harry took her arm and walked her away. It was as obvious as the nose on my face. Celebitchy did a piece on it so if you go back you’ll find it.
I’ve watched that clip several times and I still don’t see it.
No matter, I believe Kate was hostile and mistreated Meghan behind the scenes.
If something did happen at the walkabout, Kate would be very stupid to cause a scene publicly on that day of all days.
@sean, I don’t have the links but there’s actually 2 camera point of views for this moment. In the first one, it definitely looks like Kate could be looking into the crowd behind Meghan. I remember thinking it looks like she could be intimidating Meghan but also maybe not. Then there was a second pov video in which the camera is behind Meghan….and it was not a joke. That pov without a doubt looks like Kate is physically intimidating Meghan. It’s still us interpreting video but the second vid looks really bad for Kate. At the end of the day, if roles had been reversed and it was Meghan looking that menacing towards Kate, the tabloid would be splashing it 24/7 and having a field day. Not a word about Kate was said at the time.
It creeped me out the way Kate. Twitter shows a video clip of this. And the deranger s praise Kate behavior to Meghan as classy. On what planet is that behavior classy
The roll of the shoulders struck me as someone who is being abused and had enough
If this is true, I think it goes a long way in explaining all her behavior, especially with Meghan – she is probably jealous that Meghan and Harry have a good relationship. She need to get out now, in order to preserve what’s left of her emotional and physical well-being. Of course, her mother probably wants her to stay and get that crown, no matter what the cost. 🤬
Kate was.mean to Meghan. Kate could have been civil to her on that walkabout
It’s already been reported by Marie Claire that William screams and throw things at Kate. That IS physical abuse, as well as emotional. I know they said Kate does the same (gives at good as she gets), but William is a man who served in the military and Kate is a stick who is no match for him physically. I never knew why the British people didn’t care about this, as it is VERY disturbing and an actual crime. At a minimum, they both need therapy which, they will never do because they have to keep pretending they are genetically perfect. But what really should happen is William should face abuse charges and child protective services (or whatever the British equivalent is) needs to investigate the impact this has on the kids. Again, this is actually a huge deal, and I am appalled at the lack of attention by the public.
The married ins don’t count in that family, and the public has subconsciously absorbed that same attitude? Or a shut-up-and-be-grateful resentment towards the have it all royals? Not saying it’s right, just a thought.
That makes sense.
It’s been reported that Willy yells at his father and he yells at his wife.
Willy hits Prince Harry and tells him not to say anything, as if that is the usual course of action.
Willy probably doesn’t try it with the Consort because he know that would be the only time his father would act.
Willy tries to go off on Duchess Meghan, and she calmly says, “Don’t try me.”
That’s why Willy needed to get rid of Duchess Meghan. He could not get away with bullying her directly. Watching her suffer from his bully by proxy might have felt good, but not as satisfying as bullying her directly.
I don’t put faith in stories from tabloids, but I absolutely think the British media would keep William’s affairs secret, even if he is out there being flagrant. There is that “human rights” super injunction, after all.
I have always said William was as damaged as Harry by their childhood. The way his parents used him as a buffer and Diana confided in him as if he were an adult friend, were not easy to overcome and he hasn’t put in the work to do so. Harry has and continues to, so we see him grow from strength to strength as a result. William needs to face himself, stop harming others with his unresolved rage, & get some help.
The Diana treating will as an adult friend comes from Charles sympathizers. Diana did not just sit home with william. she had adult friend’s and her work will was away at school it is unfortunate that this spin is still spread.especially when Diana can no longer defend herself. She had high hopes for will she would be horrified at how he turned out. Diana should not be blamed for will behavior. He is more like his father
This is spin from Charles camp. The fact that harry turned out well being raised by Diana speaks volumes. It always bothered me that this spin of Diana treating will as an adult is there. Even will never said this about Diana. Diana confided in her adult friends
I can believe that Diana did confide in William as he adored his mother when he was young and wanted to help her. Also Diana was desperate in so many ways trying to survive her failing marriage and fearful and angry that it all went so wrong. C-Rex’s crippling weaknesses, narcissism and dismissiveness is to blame for it all, but Diana’s youth and immaturity put her at a significant disadvantage in dealing with Charles. William is the end result of all of this and is a mess, easily led, anger-monster that he is.
William passed the tissues under a door when she was crying. Diana had to learn fast about dealing with Charles. She probably was very resentful when she found out he only wanted her to get heirs with. william being the oldest and heir I think went to his head and he felt he could do whatever he wanted. After his mother died, Charles shielded him from bad press and Harry was scapegoated.
I think being around for more of the marriage than Harry made will *more* damaged. Reading your mother say she hurled herself down the stairs when pregnant with you, no matter what the reason, has to be a mindf**k. Then add on the preferential treatment given to the future king and you have an incandescent mess.
If we have a story like this, things must be much worse than I thought. The next few years are going to be very interesting. Kate still takes time to be hateful and racist to Megan so I don’t feel sorry for her. The chickens have simply come home to roost.
LRobb, well said.
William has a million options he can use to distance himself from Kate if things are so bad between them.
Show up for your “work” together, fake politeness.
I do think that as their kids age, W&K will likely live separate private lives.
I don’t see a divorce happening while Charles is alive. W&K “need” to stay married for The Crown.
If William becomes King, all bets are off.
William is an angry man, if he becomes King he will waste no time in openly doing whatever the hell he wants. Exactly like Charles did with Camilla.
Whatever Kkkhate gets, she deserves. Racists deserve all the hell they dish out…and then some.
If some of her Karma is dished out by Pegs, so be it.
When the detail about Meghan telling TOB to stop pointing his finger in her face was made public, someone on twitter shared a photo of Kate in the back of their car looking appalled at a finger being wagged at her. Does anybody have a link because I can’t find it again?
Yes I remember this. William’s finger pointing at Kate. Horrible!
The pic has been scrubbed I think; can’t find it anymore. The Palace knew it was telling. Had to protect the future king.
Marcia is an extremely unreliable source, lots of rubbish stories there, don’t bother analysing it. Pure rumour mongers.
Marca has also said untrue and nasty things about HM. To the point I don’t even bother reading anything they put out. (I didn’t know they were a Spanish publication so something new I just learned 🙂 ) . They usually talk negatively about Harry and Meghan so it’s interesting they put out a negative story about WK.
I’m a bit puzzled. We heard YEARS ago before WanK got married how Wails treated Beatrice and Eugenie. I remember someone saying that their dressmaker would no longer work with Wails and her Ma because of the way they treated the dressmaker. We’ve heard that Wails does not treat staff well.
In the passage Harry wrote about when yelling at Meghan, she asked if had heard someone talk like that to women. Obviously, it was KFC and how he talked to Diana. Do I think Fails was like this all through the dating years? Yes. Do I think that Wails gave as good as she got? Yes. Do I think just the fact that someone marries into the brf is in itself setting yourself up for abuse from the Firm? Yes. Do I understand why any woman, and her mother, would choose this? No. There undoubtedly was a lot of red flags well before anyone said I do.
Is Fails emotionally and psychologically abusive? Yes. Is Wails emotionally and psychologically abusive? Yes. Fails definitely has the power in that dynamic, which Wails is very well aware of. I have no idea whose idea it was for separate residences, but I think publicly they were unable to be in close proximity and something had to be done. I have a feeling the two of them are quite happy with this arrangement, because they don’t see each other often. For some reason, I can’t see Fails being physical abusive to Wails. All the instances anyone has mentioned here were identified as men as being his target. That doesn’t mean it isn’t happening, e.g., shoving, physically intimidating, etc.
Perhaps Wails is the one who has decided divorce is the only solution. She would be right about that. I don’t think she and her Ma are a match for the Firm. If this is Team Middleton letting this out in the wild, I would suggest they tread very, very carefully. I have no doubt that there are enough staff who will be happy to discuss how they’ve been treated by Wails.
There seems to be an impasse. I’m not sure where it will lead, but I don’t think this is the direction the Mids should go. They really need to understand that the Firm is the house, and the house always wins.
This is why I wonder if, after it’s been made clear that Kate made Meg cry, that Meghan specified in the Oprah interview “She (Kate) is a good person” to try and fend off any $hit from William taking it out on her. Meghan has more grace than I.
I think people are reading far too much into the Louis hand over the mouth thing. Not all behaviors of preschoolers are learned from what they’re seeing from parents at home. Some are instinctual, random, or they may have even seen it from another child or someone at school etc. Its funny because as much as people try to give Kate crap about being trying to be an early years expert, all of a sudden everyone here is an early years expert. That being said, if there is any truth to William being a rage monster, it’s hard to imagine that he doesn’t demonstrate rage like behaviors at home as well. Whether he’s ever modeled putting a hand on someone’s mouth though is something that we absolutely can’t tell from a 4 year old doing that in a different context.
I don’t know if it is the same story but I have been reading in the last day or so that someone who worked with/for William says he is very difficult and bad tempered. His father loses his temper but it is over in seconds. William is apparently not like that. William also resents fact that his father is more laid-back than William is. Sorry but I just do not warm to Louis at all nor the elder Phillips girl who I think is trouble.
A stalker and a very nasty mean girl is never a victim, one of their tools is to present themselves as a poor vulnerable victim when they are actually the perpetrator and a monster behind closed doors. . Why do people always asume that the man is the abuser. Will may have a bad temper but there is excuse after excuse to justify Khate’s laziness, sourness, obvious comtempt for the general population, her children appear to be treated as accessories. Could part of the problem be, that Kate throws major tantrums when she does not get her own way. I have seen children whose mother is an abusive monster, behave like Louis in public tryng to get back at thieir mother by copying her behavior. George and Charlotte always look like they are scared, rigid, very controlled and almost robotic, a kind, caring mother would be helping her children feel as relaxed as possible. Kate is only focussed on herself and her photo opportunities.
Kate can’t control herself in public. Her confrontational attitude with Meghan was very offensive. I guess Kate believes in her own PR and the people “love her.”
I agree. I believe she has major temper tantrums when she can’t have her way. I’ve seen photos of her storming away in a rage. In one instance, at least according to the people at Royal Dish, she was showing extreme disrespect to Charles, which they interpreted at her fury that he resisted initially to give her the funds for the tennis court.
People have made very excellent points. In terms of Kate’s “work ethic” and “royal duty,” which both speak for themselves (and how!), I’d like to add the following thought:
Princess Charlene of Monaco received much sympathy and speculation about her sinus infection that had her leaving the country for a very long time. There was some thought that her husband had driven her both to illness and fleeing the country. I’m not saying that Kate is in anyway “borrowing” this narrative. But, I’d like to point out some similarities: Kate has been “unable” to work as much as she’d like because of trauma from her husband’s abuse, which is squarely her husband’s fault. She wants both sympathy and a get-out-of work-free pass. A pre-divorce Middleton leak for sure.
jferber, interesting take. I hadn’t thought of that.
She’s lazy because she’s abused? Please.. She’s lazy because she has been her whole life, AND she’s possibly abused. But given Bully’s tabloid mates have alreafy suggested it then it’s likely. But he was like this pre marriage given its been since childhood. I’m not giving him an out at all, but why would she marry an abuser? Ps I don’t believe he’s been physical as in bruises, high necks are her style at times. He’s a narc who values how people see him, he doesn’t want proof with bruises. And she’s still VERY muscly. In a strange kind of way. Someone said she used to be, she still is. Evening dresses like the ice blue one show the muscles and emphasise the slimness. Not saying it’s healthy, but she does have them.
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Kate is not a “perfect victim” of domestic abuse but that does not mean it’s not happening. Will’s attack on Harry, his well-known temper and his lack of empathy in public statements are clear indicators of an abuser. I was married to one for 14 years and you get a sixth sense of these men (it’s usually men). Kate is so thin, those kids look stressed and H+M have been very gracious to Kate. All of these signs scream what the situation is. I wish the American media would report the true story bc Peg could sue them.
Agreed. This rumor may not be true, but it’s delusional to dismiss it as false just because Kate herself is a mean girl, or is lazy. This word is full of mean women (and other mean , lazy, or otherwise unpleasant people) being abused by mean people who are more powerful than them.
We’ve had a story about their arguments and “debates” seemingly once every fortnight since the disaster tour. Royal correspondents have talked openly about W’s “passionate nature” and K’s ability to stand her ground. I wondered how long it would be until a member of staff or related person would spill the beans. It was hinted at a few weeks ago in an article that said they threw things at each other, and it was all very “Jane Austen” because there is always court staff around, watching their tiffs. Essentially, they were putting out a counter narrative in anticipation: that this kind of thing goes on for all couples but all couples aren’t watched like they are. And today’s tabloids are full of W’s romantic gesture towards K at an event. Good timing.
Stories of William attacking Harry have been known for many years. Williams temper has been known same as Harry being mostly cheerful. William has been pulled off his brother more than once. I think of Diana and the treatment by Charles and the Royals. Charles was abusive in ways to hurt mentally and emotionally and you all can see the results on Diana. It is very comparable to William and Kate. She looks so much worse physically. She isn’t happy and her kids are reacting! Add not only home actions but peer pressure and yes, its there. Kids are so much smarter than given credit for. The treatment of Megan was disgusting. Megan got into this because she loved a man. A prince yes but a man. She is a warm and hugging person. She also is very smart and caring! Had Kate made a friend of Megan she would have had the support of two countries. Instead she was hateful and bullying! Remember when Harry and Megan wanted to step down but offered to continue to work but half time and they were turned down. They left the UK. Then Kate had to take on more work. She couldn’t do it. Now add the example of Charles who abused Diana, took a mistress in front of all, then their mother died and dad moved in his mistress. Their mother was replaced and by the woman who broke her marriage up. How would those boys see that? Anger would be one way. Not excusing the anger William has but can see its start and how it got worse! Their dad then married the mistress and expected both boys to just, what?? There are reasons for the actions but also both boys should of gotten more! A divorce is going to hurt the Royals. Charles cutting back has now eliminated other Royals from working. It all looks very messy!!