Britain’s Home Secretary argued that Prince Andrew should get royal protection again

One thing I’ve learned from Prince Harry’s many lawsuits is that there’s a committee of political and royal flunkies deciding who gets royal protection and who doesn’t. The committee is called Ravec, and it’s made up of senior courtiers and a few government people. As Harry’s lawsuits have revealed, Ravec seemingly makes their decisions based off of anything but “legitimate security threat.” Royal protection has become an extension of royal preference and standing within the family. The removal of protection is seen as a legitimate punitive measure within the family, as opposed to a willfully dangerous tactic leaving public figures open to bodily harm. None of the people in Ravec believe that security should follow the threat. They believe security should follow the rank, and that security is just another way to show how important and royal you are. Speaking of, Prince Andrew wants his taxpayer-funded security back, and he’s roped in the Home Secretary.

Disgraced Prince Andrew has launched a bid to win back his £3million-a-year taxpayer-funded armed security detail. The Duke of York, 63, was stripped of of police protection after paying millions to settle a civil sex assault case brought by Virginia Giuffre. But The Sun can today reveal the royal outcast is fighting back, despite being banished from frontline duties — and has won the backing of former Home Secretary Priti Patel.

She has emailed King Charles’s top aide suggesting a review of the duke’s protection “could be something to consider”. Ms Patel also referred to the ditching of Prince Harry’s security detail. But Charles’s private secretary Sir Clive Alderton has no power over royal security arrangements — and Ms Patel was forced to apologise to the King when her approach was leaked yesterday.

Royal expert Ingrid Seward said last night: “The King will be deeply embarrassed by this — the issue is so controversial he won’t go anywhere near it. Ms Patel should have known he has no power over these decisions. Her meddling was deeply unwise and deeply unfair on The King — and will damage Andrew’s cause, not help it. And the bottom line remains, why should the public pay £3million a year to protect a man who rarely leaves his home?”

Ms Patel’s intervention came after she discussed Andrew’s security woes with his PR guru pal Mark Gallagher. She refused to say who she emailed — but apologised to the King when we revealed Sir Clive’s name had been leaked. Ms Patel, 51, said: “It is disappointing that this correspondence has been leaked into the public domain and I apologise to His Majesty for the embarrassment and difficulties the publishing of this correspondence has caused.”

[From The Sun]

“Ms Patel should have known he has no power over these decisions” – I’m sorry, what? King Charles’s senior courtiers sit on Ravec, as do Home Office officials. If Charles wanted Andrew to have his RPOs back, he would. What’s even weirder is that Charles reportedly IS paying for Andrew’s security, but that money is coming from the Duchy of Lancaster, as opposed to the British taxpayer. That’s what Buckingham Palace leaked last December – that Charles was dealing with the issue privately and paying the £3 million annual cost out of Lancaster funds. Are they now saying that was a lie? Besides that, the £3 million story revealed that Charles could have easily found a work-around for the Sussexes’ security, especially when they were visiting the UK. Except Harry is suing Ravec just to be able to pay back police security.

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  1. The Old Chick says:

    Wow! Right wing need to protect sex offenders is strong! Meanwhile, marry a woman of colour and… Jezuz these freaking people are beyond gross. I genuinely pray for their demise. I’m old and all I want is to take these people out. That’s my dream.

  2. girl_ninja says:

    Of course the entitled rapist should get all of the protection. Why not? He’s not married a black woman.

    • Chloe says:

      I genuinely want to know why he wants his RPO’s back because, like Seward said (& I can’t believe I am agreeing with her): he rarely leaves the house (crown estate) anyway. So protection for what exactly?

      • First comment says:

        Maybe because he wants to leave the house but the conditions of his paid by Charles security don’t allow it?

      • Couch Potato says:

        He wants protection to leave his house to make new dodgy friends. How else is he going to fund his lifestyle?

        What I’d like to know is what she wrote about Harry’s security.

      • Pinkosaurus says:

        I’m sure Charles is strictly controlling the sweaty nonce’s travel by personally paying for his security. He hasn’t got enough leverage to get Andrew out of Royal Lodge but he can make sure he stays there.

    • Cara says:

      Apparently, British people love rapists.

    • Christine says:

      Yep, Cara. Apparently they would REALLY love it if they raped Black women.

  3. Tessa says:

    I saw part 1 on a and e channel about Andrew and Epstein. And ghislaine. Such vile behavior. I was sickened by it. Yet
    The media or some try to give Andrew free passes.

  4. Amy Bee says:

    My question is why was this story leaked now? Is it because Harry will be in the UK in two weeks or it was to take some of the heat off of William? I have no doubt that it was the Palace who leaked this story so were they just fulfilling their obligation of giving stories to the press?

    • Jais says:

      Yeah, it’s weird priti Patel actually apologized to prince Charles for the embarrassment this leak caused but wouldn’t it be someone from the royal household that leaked it? Definitely someone from RAVEC either way.

      • Couch Potato says:

        The apology was a non apology. It was a i’m sorry that your people leak to the press and that you’re embarrassed by you’re staff.

      • Jais says:

        Okay that makes sense. It just sounds so obsequious. So sorry your royal highness the king for the fact that your staff is bunch of leaky unprofessional faucets.

      • Couch Potato says:

        … by your staff. My brain is really f$^^ with the you’re and your today. Like I don’t have enough writing errors as it is🤦‍♂️

      • Pinkosaurus says:

        I wonder if Patel’s communication will impact Harry’s lawsuit on RAVEC protection by exposing that Charles and his staff are the ones making security decisions? That could be why this is coming out now to try to spin that Charles has nothing to do with it. See, we got an apology!

    • Mary Pester says:

      BUT, BUT, BUT, the Palace does not leak stories to the press 😂🤣😂😅😂, yes they bloomin well do, they leak like a bloody roof on a hundred year old garden shed! This is to try and highlight the fact that Harry will be in the UK with NO royal protection detail! Nothing shows how bereft of morals the Royal family and it’s motely Crew are. When the Queen was alive and had full control, Harry and Megan had protection. Then Charlie pulled it, with no warning and no explanation. Even the protection officers with Harry and Megan were disgusted, and when they asked the Palace if they were sure about what they were doing the answer was, yes, and you have 36 hours to get back to the UK. Then, the senior officer who queried the decision was removed back to regular police duties!! Charlie is paying for the Scum that is prince Andrew to have Royal protection, but is willing to leave Harry without it, no matter what the threats to his life, and those towards his wife and children! I wonder sometimes if its because Andrew knows a lot about Charlie’s friendship with the notorious paedophile Saville, who Charlie entertained at the Palace on several occasions. The whole system is corrupt and needs bringing down

  5. Eurydice says:

    It seems confusing until one accepts that the King can do whatever he wants. There might be rules and laws against this or that, but the King will always have a way around it and there’s nothing anybody can do about it. Patel deserves the smack on the snout for letting Andrew pressure her into approaching Charles. But, so interesting about the leak – I think it has to have come from BP as a warning to Andrew.

    • SURE says:

      It’s not clear from this excerpt that it was definitively A who pressured her about his security. PP could have been writing to the Wasp in response to his enquiry about reinstating A’s tax payer funded security.

      • Eurydice says:

        The article says Patel sent the email after discussing Andrew’s situation with his PR “guru.” I can’t imagine she would have initiated a discussion about security with a PR guy – it had to have been the other way around and Andrew had to have been involved.

      • Lorelei says:

        Imagine being Andrew’s “PR guru.” Talk about a thankless (and vile) job.

  6. HeatherC says:

    Since Charles is paying for the security, that means he’s the boss. He says (or his flunkies) say where the security goes, and where Andrew goes. He’s probably nixed overseas travel for Andy to countries with no extradition treaties. Andrew probably figures if Charles was not signing the paychecks, he could leave the house and possibly find someone else to traffic girls to him, only to arrange his teddy bears he promises.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, this makes sense, especially combined with the part about him rarely leaving home. Charles has Andrew under house arrest.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Didn’t everyone keep saying that Harry can’t reimburse the cost of this security? It appears that’s exactly what KFC is doing for Andrew. I assume that strengthens Harry’s case, doesn’t it?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Saucy, that’s a good point, but I’m sure they’ll lie their asses off about it if there’s a snowball’s chance in hell that it would help Harry’s case.

  7. What is this world coming to protecting pedo’s and other criminals. Not sure the angle of this story yet. Maybe just put out to cover the crap Peg hasn’t been doing. Who knows.

    • AmyLynn says:

      Charles keeps showing us who is really is, which is an ass$ole in the biggest way!! He will pay millions to protect his sick and twisted pedophile brother, however he WILL NOT pay one cent for protection of his own son and his family.
      He truly is a terrible father. I truly wonder how Charles can sleep at night.

      • Lorelei says:

        Seriously, the first year of KFC’s reign has been…less than impressive. Has he even DONE anything constructive? Does he have anything to show after a year? Or has he just spent his time bitching and moaning to Camilla about various issues, who then passed his complaints on to the tabloids?

      • ArtFossil says:

        @Lorelei I know, right? Charles’ crooked crown in all his official photos seems to be the metaphor for his reign. So far, he’s done nothing right and has done nothing of value. What a farce.

  8. Tessa says:

    The andrew imo will stay at royal lodge despite all the spin.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Andrew owns the legal lease for decades to come. It was prepaid for decades. likely with his inheritance from QEII paid out early. It has nothing to do with whether he is a working royal, whatever crimes he has committed, etc.

      It is the same as Princess Alexandra’s Crown Estate property where the sublease was purchased by her late husband. Had nothing to do with her being a working royal, it had to do with her husband buying the sublease on a C.E. property.

  9. Why is KFC allowed to pay the police for protection when H is not?

    • Wannabefarmer says:

      Excellent question!! If there was a real press on salt island, it would be asking this exact question. Oh the hypocrisy.

  10. ThatsNotOkay says:

    Andrew is getting security paid for by Charles, and he’s livid it’s not being funded by the taxpayer instead? What, the what? Is this a “matter of principle?” Is he defending his honour, with a u, with this stunt? Like, what’s the reasoning? Make it make sense. Please!

    • First comment says:

      The only possible answer to your question is probably the fact that Charles’s paid security comes with strings attached such as no public appearances, no travel etc.. the only way for Andrew to get that is if his security is paid by the public. After all, I’m sure that in his kind of thinking and entitlement, he didn’t do anything wrong…

      • Renae says:

        I don’t think the “paid” security is permitted to be armed.
        Other than that?

      • Lorelei says:

        @First Comment, that has to be it. Andrew is tired of being controlled by Chuck. Unsurprisingly, this little stunt backfired on him spectacularly, lol.

  11. Sid says:

    Raggedy azz kang chuck is paying for the security of his sex offender brother but refuses to do so for his younger son and family. Let that sink in. He is the worst of the worst. I am sure we don’t know half of what he really put Diana through. He is not seeing heaven.

    • Wannabefarmer says:

      Worse. Harry is not asking him to pay. He is asking to pay himself and they said no. These people are so freaking entitled/unaware, like does no one see how hypocritical it is that andrew who is ‘not a working royal’ (whatever that means these days), neither is Harry (never mind that Harry IS working) but the two situations are treated completely differently. I expect that is why the decision re Harry has been so long in the making. How are they going to justify saying no.

      • Sid says:

        Right farmer, I know Harry is offering to pay the cost himself. For me that is an additional layer to the fact that Chuck is so vile that he doesn’t want to do all he can to help ensure the safety of his own son, daughter-in-law, and grandchildren. Any normal person with the means to do so would happily pay for this. Reading that he is doing it for his sex offender brother is just beyond the pale. This guy is wicked. Completely wicked.

  12. First comment says:

    I’m really angry about this for so many reasons: it’s OK for pedo to get security paid by the taxpayers but not for the king’s son or his wife and children? Not only that but there are people from the government who actually asked and wanted this? Did I get it right? It makes me wonder about eipstein’s connections that are still on… and pattel was not sorry for the actual request but for the leaking which ’embarrassed ‘ the king? ..the leaking that probably came from BP or KP?…. sorry for the incoherent thoughts but this kind of news just makes me sick 😫 and sad.

    • Wannabefarmer says:

      Totally understand @First comment, it is really enraging. (I probably shouldnt read this stuff first thing in the mornings, low grade irritation the rest of the day!).

      • Lorelei says:

        It’s particularly enraging because we know this is just the way the BRF operates ALL THE TIME, when it comes to anything — leaks, lies, obfuscation, blame-shifting, etc. And they continue to get away with it without any accountability.

  13. Wannabefarmer says:

    They’ve been caught with their proverbial pants down, that’s what happened. patel talked to charles (‘indirectly’) because she KNOWS he has the power to give or take and Ravec ‘decision’ is a cover. Just like the claim they are not involved in politics/government but get to see and make ‘suggested’ changes to legislation sometimes even before the people’s reps do – like ensuring they get exempted from certain employment laws. charley wont go anywhere near it now? Of course, b/c how is he going to justify andy’s 3M coverage but not Harry’s occasional visits coverage. It is indeed a carrot and stick play. She’s apologizing because she let the cat out of the bag….or at least someone leaked the cat. Maybe someone on Harry’s side or seeing the unfairness/hypocrisy of that lot.

  14. AMTC says:

    Kaiser is correct that royal protection has become an extension of royal preference. How else to explain the speeding posse that ran down an elderly woman in their urgency to protect Sophie who could hardly be considered a high level target.

    • Lucky Charm says:

      I still think it was William, and Sophie was just the one publicly named.

      • HennyO says:

        Me too. That’s why Sophie W did’nt make any effort to go see the wounded/killed woman. And it was stated that there were no engagements registered for Sophie W on that day in that erea. So most people do believe that the palace used her name to cover the fact that the motorcade was Willy’s (, allegedly).

  15. Shawna says:

    Seward sounds like she’s threatening Patel—Patel, who is an actual official, deemed “meddling” for doing her job. Now, I’m no fan of Patel. I’m not saying she’s doing her job well. And Andrew doesn’t deserve anything from the public…but wasn’t that a creepy line?!

    • Eurydice says:

      Is she doing her job? She’s still an MP, but not Home Secretary anymore.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Shawna, ITA that was incredibly unprofessional and inappropriate for them to use that word. I’m obviously no fan of hers either, but that was so insulting to describe it that way. “Meddling” does sound like something that would come right out of KFC’s mouth, though.

  16. ML says:

    Priti Patel is a right winger, so her advocating Paedrew’s return to taxpayer-paid security is no surprise. Her mistake, as it were, is letting that info be known, because KC definitely would prefer not to let taxpayers know that they support his brother’s expensive security when they believe that KC is funding it. Patel understands grifting really well and is simply less subtle than the king. She wasn’t supposed to get caught, and now there’s understandably the comparison of how CRex treats his brother vs his son.

    “ The King will be deeply embarrassed by this — the issue is so controversial he won’t go anywhere near it. Ms Patel should have known he has no power over these decisions.” This is Ingrid Seward panicking and letting Patel know what the talking points are so she doesn’t further muck things up for KC. The argument that he has no power here is ridiculous.

    • Lorelei says:

      @ML I think your last paragraph nails it. These idiots are always bumbling around, having to clean up their own messes. In fact, that’s *all* they seem to do at this point, for god’s sake.

    • bisynaptic says:

      This. These people are so depraved.

  17. Layla says:

    One of the most interesting piece of detail from this whole incident coming from the telegraph was that “Sir Clive Alderton, the king’s private secretary is among one of the 10 people tasked with making decisions on the level of personal surety afforded to members of the royal family… Chris Fitzgerald, the king’s deputy private secretary also sits on the committee, as does A SENIOR AIDE TO THE PRINCE OF WALES”

    • May says:

      Interesting. Wasn’t this information that Prince Harry was trying to get relevant to his lawsuit, RAVEC membership? Also, how on earth can Charles claim that he has no power over the security decisions by RAVEC when some of his employees, over which he presumably has control, are members.

      • Lorelei says:

        The RF lies like the rest of us breathe. The only question is if the British citizens will ever get fed up with it.

        Do we know who replaced Knauf? (I’m sure it was announced at some point, but apparently I have the memory of a fruit fly.)

  18. Lady Digby says:

    I think Kaiser is spot on about Ravec being more about protocol than protection. Literally who is in and who is out of the RF.

    What Priti Patel is doing in this is anyone’s guess. Andrew is not one of her constituents, nor is Harry, and she is no longer the Home Secretary. Curious indeed!

    • May says:

      I was under the impression that Patel sent this email when she was still home secretary. I’m thinking the press is trying to obscure that fact because this correspondence could very well be relevant to Harry’s suits, especially the one that the court declined recently,
      – Harry’s ability to pay for his own RPOs.

      • Eurydice says:

        Ok, this makes more sense – she stepped down as Home Secretary at the beginning of last September.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Ah, so, an old story brought out to embarrass…who? Charles? Andrew? Harry? Priti? Who’s behind this evil deed?

      • May says:

        I am wondering if this came out in Discovery or if someone leaked it to help Harry’s case against RAVEC. For example, if it confirms that Charles is paying for Andrew’s rpos that flies in the face of RAVEC’s saying that non-working Royals or public persona cannot purchase the services of rpos. And, if it advocates for Andrew’s getting rpos notwithstanding his non-working status, how does that square with Harry not getting protection?

        It might also be “embarrassing” because it could open up the issue of RAVEC members on Charles’s staff (and not just Edward Young, then at BP) trying to hinder Harry’s ability to get rpos, whether paid for or not. Could this rope Charles’ staff members, or even Charles himself, in as witnesses in Harry’s case?

        It is interesting to note that while the general sense of the content of the email regarding Andrew has been released, that regarding how Harry should not get protection has not. I’m thinking this may lead the court to conclude summarily that Harry is entitled to non-paid rpos when in the UK, so as to not open up a hornet’s nest. Stay tuned!

      • May says:

        PS, this also confirms for Harry what a crap father Charles is. Because it confirms that at least several members of his staff on RAVEC (whose identities were not known before) were involved in screwing Harry out of his security. I think this is why Charles’ office now is so adamant in trying to make people believe that he has no control over RAVEC’s decisions. Maybe this is why Edward Young was honored recently and given a new position under Charles. Maybe it was a thank you for not ratting out Charles and his influence on RAVEC.

      • Lorelei says:

        Gotta love how they’re trying to make it sound like the literal KING OF ENGLAND has no power, no control over anything.

        We already know that they think their subjects are idiots, but give me a break.

  19. Beverley says:

    So Andrew will get royal security, but Harry won’t. This is about punishing Harry for marrying a biracial woman and bringing Black blood into the line of succession. The royals and the British media are livid about Princess Lili and Prince Archie. Even if William strips their titles, they exist for the world to see and William will just confirm his racism.

    I hope Harry wins his lawsuit regarding his protection, despite RAVEC.

  20. Jaded says:

    This has Sir (now Lord) Edward Young’s slimy fingerprints all over it. Even though he is no longer Chuck’s Private Secretary, he’s a Lord in Waiting and a Knight Grand Cross. That means he still wields a lot of power within the BaRF. Recall he was the one who blocked Harry’s request to RAVEC to reimburse the cost of RPO security whenever he and his family are in England. Ironically he’s a member of RAVEC, and the one Harry referred to as the “Wasp” in his book. It could be Young who leaked the request by Priti Patel to Chuck suggesting he reconsider Andrew’s protection in order to shut her down and keep the Pedo under continued house arrest.

    • Lorelei says:

      Young manages to stand out as a particularly awful piece of sh!t among an entire group of horrible people.

  21. QuiteContrary says:

    I think it’s hilarious when we say that Charles — not the taxpayers — is paying for Andrew’s security.

    LOL — it’s all money that should belong to the people of the U.K. This family has gotten ridiculously wealthy off of literal centuries of grift and theft.

    And protection for Pedrew is grotesque.

    Harry is the only royal who’s actually worth his salt.

    • Lorelei says:

      It drives me crazy when they talk about the royals’ “personal money.” As if any of them have ever done a day’s work IN THEIR LIVES. They have lots of fancy, complicated ways of parceling out the Crown’s assets and properties, making it *appear* that some is rightfully theirs, but none of it was earned. None. It all goes back to the taxpayers, even the majority of what they inherited over the years.

      Meghan is the only one in recent memory who actually spent her own “personal” money. That she earned. By —gasp— working. It’s laughable that they try to pretend otherwise.

      • Unblinkered says:

        Whatever is/has driven the Palace’s behaviour over this, strategically I believe they’ve foolishly and very short-sightedly stored up future trouble for themselves. If soon faced with a left-wing government in the UK, it’s entirely possible that direct control of both the Duchy of Lancaster and the D of Cornwall will be removed from them and given instead to the UK Government.

  22. MSTJ says:

    I think this was a deliberate leak to test the waters and assess public sentiments for Andrew getting taxpayer funded security again. IIRC Prince Harry is awaiting the result of a judicial review regarding removal of his security when in London. Priti Patel was a pawn (willing or unwilling who knows 🤷‍♀️).

    The royal mafia institution is likely trying to get Andrew’s taxpayer funded security reinstated without a judicial review. While Harry has pulled back the curtains of the royal mafia for his case to be legally reviewed, the royal mafia (Andrew’s camp + Charles’ camp 🤔) is trying to get Andrew’s taxpayer funded security reinstated without a judicial review.

    I wonder when the judicial review for Harry’s security will be completed. ⏰ He lost the case to pay for his own security while in the UK but no word yet on the outcome of the judicial review.

    • HennyO says:

      They are deliberately taking their time for a ruling on Harry’s judical review.

      It’s exactly 2 years. In September 2021 Harry first filed for the judicial review reg the Home Office’s decisions to take his RP security. To be more exact – it was shortly after his car with his privately paid US security was chased by paps in cars on the road, when he was leaving the 2021 WellChild Award event ( speaking of timing – he’s coming back to the UK for that same charity award event).

      So this whole email leaking thing might be a smoke screen, since the ruling might be eminent, and Chucky and his mainman Alderton might have gotten a heads up.

  23. Well Wisher says:

    “If Charles wanted Andrew to have his RPOs back, he would.”

    The above statement is so true, Andrew lost his security because they do not want Harry to be safe and sound without their knowledge……
    It is about control…..

    Irregardless of one’s feelings about Andrew, he grew up in the public; that in itself is a risk.

    Harry’s situation is as acute as his father and the Prime Minister, yet it is his family that is standing in the way,despite their claims of powerlessness in this instance.

    To boot, It is their braying and the media’s about reconciliation….

    Both ‘spares’ should have security since both served in war times…

  24. Tessa says:

    Harry should not be in the same category as Andrew.

  25. Lily says:

    I hope Harry and Meghan stays with his moms family at least they are on their side his aunts love them and he is close to them not like his brother. He invited them to his children christening on Archies his two aunt was on the official photos where there William did no such a thing he completely cut them of like they are not related to him (not powerfull enough for baldy)