‘Eyebrows have been raised’ about Prince William & Kate’s long summer holidays

There were so many columns and shady commentary pieces about Prince William’s refusal to fly to Australia for the Women’s World Cup, I didn’t get a chance to note that Richard Palmer at the Express was also somewhat critical. He did a tweet-thread about how both King Charles and Prince William should have gone to Australia, and that their excuses for not doing so were pretty weak. As I’ve been saying so often these days, there are tons of open secrets within the British media, and every now and then, the invisible contract becomes a lot more visible. Other times, the invisible contract becomes quite strained, especially when William and Kate insist on their two month summer holidays. Speaking of, Richard Palmer had some tea about raised eyebrows over Will and Kate’s nonexistent work ethic.

Prince William and Princess Kate are coming under pressure after raising eyebrows within parts of the royal household, according to a royal commentator. Royal Correspondent Richard Palmer claimed that the couple’s amount of time off has caught the attention of some Royal Family staff.

Palmer said: “I do think that is an issue for them as well. They’re very popular, they’re a huge asset to the UK, but there have been eyebrows raised in other parts of the royal household about the amount of time they’re not doing official engagements. It may well be that they come under a little bit of pressure to up their number of engagements.”

The royal commentator added that there is a lot of goodwill towards the Prince and Princess of Wales but they need to monitor the amount of time they take off. He told the Royal Round Up podcast: “There aren’t many families where both the father and mother are able to have 12 or 13 weeks with their children on all of their school breaks. I think there’s an awful lot of goodwill towards them but they do need to keep an eye on that.”

[From GB News]

“There have been eyebrows raised in other parts of the royal household about the amount of time they’re not doing official engagements.” Other parts of the royal household can truly only mean Buckingham Palace, meaning Charles and Camilla. That thing we always said would happen is happening before our eyes: Charles made a big bet that William and Kate would “step up” once the Sussexes were exiled and QEII passed away. Instead, Will and Kate are keeping an even lighter schedule than before and they still insist on doing f–k all every summer. Oh well! William and Kate won’t even care that they’re being criticized. They’re truly too lazy to care.

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  1. Loretta says:

    William and Kate are BFF with Andrew now

    • Mary Pester says:

      @Loretta, yes they sure are, there is a picture of them together in the car, and guess who was leaning towards the side, to make sure the camera got a good shot of her! Yep, her Royal highness Queen of the camera call Kate

      • Rapunzel says:

        You know Keenie was miffed she didn’t get the front seat.

      • Maddie says:

        Pegs literally chose a sexual predator to sit in the front seat over his wife! This says it all

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        I think Workshy Wanderd-ck chose Uncle Pedo to be a buffer between him and Kate so he wouldn’t have to sit next to her/engage with her. Relegating her to the rear seat was not only a choice, it was a message.

        As for the Workshy-And-Wiglet-Need-To-Work-More stories… I really think that’s coming from the BM, not BP. It’s the media that wants that narrative because they’re desperate to keep the wholly one-sided “War between Wales & Sussex” running. It’s the media that wants to embrace Diana’s Other Son and make he and his wife fulfill all the promise of his mother’s star power. Pity he took after the Windsors and not the Spencers & Mountbattens…

        I simply cannot believe that Chucky and Bride of Chucky want the Waleses to work more. Chucky absolutely hates being overshadowed; hated being overshadowed in popularity by his parents, his first wife, his younger son, his DIL, even his exiled grandson. If Team Workshy Wales were to actually, kinda-sorta step up, and do a full third to half of what Chucky accomplishes in a year, the press would be “Chucky who?” in a heartbeat. You’d start seeing an avalanche of polls and articles for Chucky to abdicate in favour of his son again.

        The current status quo is that Willy is a lazy, talentless, emotionally stunted, intellectually incurious middle aged man; and Chucky is absolutely content with that. It’s what Chucky raised his heir to be, really; because a lazy heir cannot surpass or outshine him, and that is just how he likes it.

  2. SAS says:

    It has to mean the Wessexes too, I know no one pays attention to them but they’ve still been out there doing bread and butter engagements over the years while their kids were growing up. It must annoy them a lot that W&K get all the accolades for doing half the amount of work.

    • Lorelei says:

      And Anne, as well.

      • Becks1 says:

        I feel like Anne doesn’t have a lot of use for Kate and I think her laziness is a big reason for that. I think the only reason sophie pretends to like Kate is because she and Edward need to be on William’s good side for the future.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Becks, if I had to guess, I think that Anne probably cannot STAND “Kate of Wales (or whatever).”

        Anne doesn’t seem to suffer fools.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate has been around the family for almost 20 years and I have rarely seen Anne interact with her. Anne got her situation set up when her parents were alive and she helps her brother who I think appreciates it. She doesn’t need to be nice to Kate because she won’t need them after Charles.

  3. JackieJacks says:

    These people are so lazy it’s really incredible. I am travelling to London next week so I’m interested in being there and sensing what kind of vibe there is and attitude towards the Royal Family.

    I could see them taking the entire summer off to spend time with kiddos ONLY IF they actually worked and kept a full schedule of engagements and meetings and events throughout the rest of the year. But these two are as useless as tits on a bull.

    • Chloe says:

      I could be wrong here but i don’g recall Charles or Camilla having any official engagements after Wimbledon. So in that case they have been on holiday equally long this summer. As for the British attitude towards their royal family: i think it’s mostly positive. But not everyone pays close attention to them

      • Becks1 says:

        Charles has worked since Wimbledon. The last official entry in the CC is for August 8, but I imagine they’ll add some of the balmoral events to the CC as well (inspecting the guards at Balmoral, I forget what it was exactly but they got new colors to mark Charles’ reign.)

      • Cara says:

        No one does less than Camilla.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Cara – Kate does, lol. Camilla at least broke 100 last year, Kate did not. her numbers for last year were appalling low (90.)

      • Sue E Generis says:

        @Becks1 And remember Kate’s number is highly inflated. A lot of 4-in-1 events i.e. travel to event (1 event), shake hands outside event/meet and greet (1 event), go inside and talk to people (1 event), pose for pictures (1 event).

      • Nic919 says:

        Charles doesn’t get the same coverage but he has done many things over the summer. There is not a set of multiple weeks of nothing like the wails. And now he gets the red boxes so technically he has work daily.

        Camilla does work less, but not less than Kate. And her engagement count tends to be actual events in person instead of phone calls and meeting with staff.

    • Flowerlake says:

      Unless you specifically ask about it, British people generally spend very little time talking about the BRF.

      It’s very different from what the media might make us think.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Yeah, that is my experience as well. There’s a general apathy about the royals, they are part of the national furniture in the background.

    • MaryContrary says:

      I was there in June for a few weeks. There is no vibe about the royal family. What struck me (I had not been there in many years) was how incredibly multi cultural London is-and what a huge asset Meghan would have been if the family hadn’t been so jealous and myopic.

      • girl_ninja says:

        This is one reason that I rarely fight with the racist Will and Kate “fans.” A lot of this is media riling people up and the tv media is just obsessed with Harry and Meghan.

  4. UNCDancer says:

    Perfect secondary photo choice! They look just so smug and entitled.

    • Well Wisher says:

      They are smug and entitled, now they look the part….
      They’ll have a go at anyone whose presence and charisma calls into being their feelings….
      Feelings based on being treated differently from birth which is based entirely on luck or lack thereof…..

      They do not provide no merit, no pretense to care no. work ethic….
      Just find someone to feed to the vicious media….
      A scapegoat is good enough……

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Yes @ UNCDancer, Kaiser is the in the master class of photography choices. They speak for themselves in so many different fields. And yet, all I see is quite smug and entitled expressions with these two twits!

      They certainly deserve a few slaps across those smug faces to bring them back into reality. Not that it would change anything. Not even KFCIII can encourage them to do their part that is “required” of them. Such useless, pathetic and ignorant grifters.

  5. Mary Pester says:

    Ah come on now, katey has to rest those jazz hands or she might get R. S. I 😂😅couple that with the wiglet weight on her scrawny neck, (they must account for about 60 %of her body weight) she has to be careful NOT. Bully boy needs to rest those teeth and temper tantrums, so he books into a rest home for incandescents for a few weeks before his trip to New York, after all, can’t stamp his feet and have a tantrum there when he sees how small the crowds are! Bottom line, they are both a pair of lazy arses and the world knows it, even without their tame paps bigging them up

    • Jais says:

      A rest home for incandescents 😂 so basically his vacation home.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Then Pegs must has multiple incandescent homes to rest in as he is never NOT Incandescent with rage.

        Please! Incandescent is already stomping around due to his younger brother plans to be on British soil.

  6. Josephine says:

    I’d like to think that Chuckles and Willie showing up for the women would have brought them a lot of good will, but I think that the truth is that the people who are even thinking about liking them don’t care about women’s sports (unless there is a trans person in the vicinty), and they know it. They appeal to the bigots and losers, and those people probably agree that the women are not worth showing up for.

  7. Nubia says:

    William is a strange dude. Most LAZY people would be happy to have their slack picked up for them. Kate is a robot and does what she is told,i dont believe she is as lazy as William but she is just now accustomed to doing very little. If William had pushed her to go out there and be the best Duchess/Princess she would have. If William let the Sussexes and his wife thrive he could have gone and chill in his rose buds for most of the time and let others ‘beneath’ him do all the work and he the bare minimum.

    • Gina says:

      Kate has never worked in her entire life. I think no one can make her work, definitely not her husband. Maybe she is the “robot” but she is not obedient one.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate is lazier than William and she enables his laziness.

  8. Shawna says:

    Pictures are on point!

  9. Brit says:

    William and Kate are lazy and uninspired and the reason they don’t work hard or do anything is because they have a protection racket and are propped up by the BM, no matter what they do. Everyone knows it. They’ve been doing this for years. Why is this suddenly an issue? Is the media pissed they have to hype up dullards and are not getting anything in return or is Charles expecting too much of his heir? No wonder they want Harry back. William is obsessed with his brother and I’m starting to think Kate is being told or forced to single white female Meghan. She’s not innocent but she holds no power at all.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Brit – I totally agree on a couple of points. First, king Chuckles had his chance when the Penis with Teeth was younger to actually provide some discipline and consequences for his bad behavior (going all the way back to that video of Peg bashing Chuckles in the head with his elbow during a photocall). Harry talked about even Camzilla being shocked at how Chuckles let Peg throw tantrums – as an adult – without doing anything.

      So the die was cast a long long time ago about Peg doing what he wants, throwing tantrums, being violent, not listening to Pa or advisors, cheating on partners, lying, being a spoiled brat, etc. There is NO WAY a 40-something person is going to suddenly become kind and responsible now, after having faced not one single consequence for bad behavior his entire life. Especially now when he’s the heir and has his own money to fund his lazy lifestyle. Why on earth would he even care what Chuckles thinks?! He doesn’t need his father for anything anymore.

      Chuckles probably felt he had no choice since he’s the heir, but he really backed the wrong son if he wanted someone to work more on behalf of the monarchy. The fact that he didn’t/couldn’t realize this just shows he’s as stupid and as much of a spoiled brat as Peg. Thinking Peg would suddenly come around when he became the heir is just delusional.

      And that’s related to my second point, which you mentioned. I really don’t think they imagined in any scenario that Harry would actually leave. They honestly believed that they could keep Harry under their thumb, living like a (relative to them) pauper. That no matter how much they abused and leaked to the press about him that he would stay and be their whipping boy, doing engagements and foreign tours at the expense of his own mental and physical health. That he would come up with great charity initiatives like Heads Together and allow the Wailses to steal his ideas and glom onto his work. That he would forever be party-boy Harry, playing third wheel to Can’t and Won’t, smiling uncomfortably as Can’t paws at and flirts with him.

      All of this is to say, Chuckles fcuked up and he’s getting what he deserves with the lazy, workshy Wailses. And no matter how much he leaks to the press about Workshy Willy, it won’t change a thing.

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t think Kate has to be forced to mean girl Meghan. She got openly hostile to her and let the fake crying story stay in the media.

      • Rapunzel says:

        I’m eternally comvinced Willy had a crush on Meg from Suits which Kate knew and loathed Meghan over.

      • Brit says:

        @tessa. I know. That’s why I said Kate is not innocent.I’m taking about the blatant coping of her fashions.

      • Jaded says:

        @Rapunzel — I too believe Willy had major hots for Meghan to the point where it was painfully obvious, and may even have done/said something overtly suggestive to her. The way he looked her up and down at the wedding was disgusting and blatant. I’m sure Keen’s hackles were raised the minute Meghan came into Harry’s life and the mean-girling escalated along with Willy’s anger when she made it clear he’d crossed a line.

    • HuffnPuff says:

      Totally agree with you, Brit. They showed us who they were on coronation day when they showed up late and had that fancy video made of themselves peacocking around beforehand. They have their own funds now and they are going to do what they want, when they want to. I think that is what makes them so frustrating. They have a platform and a boatload of potential causes to take up yet they do nothing.

  10. Slush says:

    Abolish the monarchy.

  11. Nic919 says:

    Palmer is returning to his pre Meghan criticisms of W and K. He was not shy about calling out their laziness pre 2016 and seems to be feeling comfortable to go back to that critique. I suspect Charles is letting the rota know they can go there.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      This is what I’m hoping happens. And I love that for the Wailses.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Nic, I still and will always loathe Palmer, but I do enjoy when he does this and I hope he keeps it up.

      And he —gulp— makes a good point: everyone was focused on being angry that William didn’t go to the match because of his role as president, and rightfully so, but KFC really should have gone, too, imo, considering how historic an event this was for the UK. It’s not as if he couldn’t have squeezed it into his packed schedule— he’s been on vacation for months, ffs. In fact he really hasn’t don’t much at all during the first year of his reign…nothing noteworthy or memorable.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think charles escaped criticism for that because William is RIGHTTHERE as president of the FA. I think if a royal wasn’t FA president, Charles would have come under more fire for not going. But William not going was a bad look for a royal AND a bad look for FA president, so it gave Charles some protection there.

    • Gabby says:

      Richard Palmer can be counted on to “accidentally” spill the truth every now and then.
      Remember this?

      https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/1507015519362187270

      • Becks1 says:

        HAHA I loved that. He tried to cover it up but alas, it was too late, lol.

        he is definitely one who is not a W&K fan and I think is annoyed at being nothing more than a stenographer for the royals; I think he is sitting on some hot tea and can’t wait to spill it. But tea aside – I just don’t think he likes W&K that much.

        remember he’s the one who reported William making the comments about Ukraine, I believe.

      • Nic919 says:

        If Palmolive ever decides to retire I suspect he might have a barn burner of an article against W and K. He doesn’t like them, but covered for them when H and M were seen as “worse”. With H and M out of the picture, he is going to be more critical, especially as it seems like Charles is not going to be mad at those who decide to do that.

  12. Kokiri says:

    12 weeks off is lowballing it considerably.
    I don’t think they even “work” 3 days per week.
    It’s pretty disgusting. The whole family is disgusting.

  13. Jais says:

    Technically, I think William and Kate do care about criticism but their laziness outweighs it. A little light criticism is not going to cut it. Now if their faces were splashed on the covers on the regular….But they have never received the type of criticism Meghan did. Who you know, cared and worked.

  14. ThatsNotOkay says:

    Fawning pieces only get you so far. The Rota has to have someone to sh*t on. And this time, who better to sh*t on than actual sh*ts? H&M aren’t available enough to keep the Rota’s lights on with their receclyed “news,” so they might as well write tepid, moderately critical pieces about the other brother, since he’s not quite yet king.

  15. Tarte au Citron says:

    I vaguely recall a post somewhere that Kate technically didn’t even qualify for her maternity leaves because she hadn’t worked up the required hours.

    She has been very disappointing. Diana & Fergie would have been called out for poor working hours very brutally in the tabloids. But when it is Kate… tumbleweeds. I can only assume the media are keeping their powder dry there.

    • Nic919 says:

      Diana was doing 300 to 400 engagements with young children and kate has school aged ones and barely cracks 100. It’s really sad how people accept the laziness.

    • Unblinkered says:

      I’m convinced the press are laying off her because she’s known to be ‘fragile’. Convinced of it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate. Is. No. Victim.

        Kate’s not fragile, she’s a steel-spined, vase-wielding, tantrum-throwing, lying, racist bitch. But she leans into the idea, loves that people think she’s too fragile and precious to work more than 100 HOURS per year.

        Kate and Mummy have been spinning those ideas for years, telling people she’s ‘being taken care of’ by other grownups and loving that her idiot fans infantilize her.

      • Nic919 says:

        If you mean because of an eating disorder and bad husband, that wasn’t enough for the media to lay off Diana. Who still managed hundreds of engagements per year while suffering those issues.

  16. Brassy Rebel says:

    “…they need to monitor the amount of time they take off.” But if they did that, they would, no doubt, conclude they need MORE time off. That’s how they roll.

  17. Eurydice says:

    Uh huh, call me when fists are being raised. So, when is that summit at Balmoral happening?

    • Lorelei says:

      I feel like “the summit” (lol) was said to be today? I could be wrong, but for some reason, I thought it was on a Monday.

      • Eurydice says:

        The DM “announced” it a week ago, so maybe. It’s like an Agatha Christie murder mystery – all the victims are being invited…

      • Lorelei says:

        @Eurydice, omg I just cackled at this comment

  18. Newt says:

    How’s that Early Years project going? Has William solved homelessness yet? Maybe they’re taking a break AND working on their projects at the same time?! Ha!

  19. Amy Bee says:

    Why the press acting surprised by this? When William and Kate refused the game, the press attacked them for being work shy. The press can’t be talking about this now when for last 5 years they didn’t have a problem with their work load.

    • Brit says:

      The press are angry. They have no more leaks and stories about Harry and Meghan, which was clearly the agreement between KP and the editors. Why do they want the the family to make up so badly? In particular Charles and Harry? Because they know William is too much of a loose cannon hot head to help them. The press have to sell William and Kate and they get nothing in return. The kid pics are getting played out and they’re a lazy couple. I’ve been getting buyers remorse from the press for the last year now.

  20. PrincessOfWaffles says:

    Kate did not wait around that many years to marry the angry bird boss so that she could work hard and harder. She’s in there long haul for the privilege and the lazy time off and will take advantage of it.

  21. Noor says:

    This shying from work is nothing new and has been going on since they got married in 2011. Everybody including the late Queen, Charles and the media have been handling the Wales with velvet gloves and covering up for them.

    • Lorelei says:

      I wonder if Charles regrets how he treated William, now that he sees the monster he created.

      ETA Actually, these people never think they’re wrong about anything, ever, so probably not.

      • Libra says:

        No Lorelei, Charles is too shallow and not self aware enough to have regrets. He is surrounded by yes men who reinforce his infallibility.

  22. Juliet says:

    It’s really sad because they could do so much good with all of their resources. They are wasting their positions. Get rid of Andrew, apologize to H&M, and do some f**king good for your country, lest you be kicked out of your palatial homes that the British citizens pay for. You’re only as important as you make yourself.

  23. Lady Digby says:

    Does anyone believe that at the Summit FK is going to be confronted about his poor work numbers?? At the 2020 Sandringham Summit didn’t Basher scream and shout at his brother in front of The Queen and Charles, and no one said or did anything in response?? Charles is too cowardly to deal with FK’s tantrums face to face so bring on the clowns and Can snarling to the press but adult mediation? Nope!

    • Jaded says:

      @Lady Digby — I can believe this Summit will be different. The difference between Sandringham and Balmoral is Charles is King now. I do believe he has deliberately given Billy Basher enough rope to hang himself, and all the yelling and gnashing of teeth in the world won’t work now that TQ is pushing up daisies. Much as he’s been pushing back at Pa, there’s a new Sheriff in town and he means business. The new Queen won’t put up with Basher’s Bullsh*t either and we all know she wears the pants in that marriage. Let the tabloid wars begin!

  24. HeatherC says:

    The BRF have no real incentive to work. What happens if they don’t? They get some bad headlines and laugh about them in their palaces? They won’t get less money, they won’t have to give up any palaces or property. It takes more than #abolishthemonarchy trending on Twitter to actually do that. It’s going to take the focused united energy of a majority of the British people to hold any of them accountable for anything. Good luck.

  25. Saucy&Sassy says:

    What I found most interesting about what Palmer said is this, “[t]here aren’t many families where both the father and mother are able to have 12 or 13 weeks with their children on all of their school breaks. I think there’s an awful lot of goodwill towards them but they do need to keep an eye on that.”

    I believe everyone on this site has said as much (actually more). They can’t keep hiding behind the kids anymore. They are all in school and there is no reason that WanK can’t be working. There is no reason that BOTH of them need to take time off whenever the kids get time off from school. They should be passing the baton back and forth during the Summer months, etc. It would be interesting to know if the comments under this article was from any parents agreeing with that statement.

    • Unblinkered says:

      And the traditional long royal summer holidays, through til October, were accepted without question when it was The Queen, The Duke (Prince Philip) and The Queen Mother because, boy, did they work the rest of the year! All three were absolutely committed to duty, and carried out a phenomenal number of engagements. I include Charles and Anne too here, hard workers both.
      W & K should be ashamed.

    • Becks1 says:

      That’s a good catch that didn’t sink in for me the first time I read it. He’s sending a clear warning shot here that the excuse of “kids on school break” is not going to be tolerated much longer by the press. It’s one thing for them to take off for their two week fall break or spring break or whatever (and even then I question how many parents cant take off as well, but I’m in the US with our dismal vacation time lol), but to take off for months on end on top of all those weeks throughout the year – very few parents can do that and I think the sympathy for those long breaks is going to start wearing thin, especially as they don’t work the rest of the year.

      I said this above but again, Kate did 90 engagements last year. NINETY. If we count those as one engagement at a time, she worked less than a third of the days of the year. And we all KNOW she clusters engagements, counts phone calls, etc. So her actual days worked is probably half of that. I wouldn’t be surprised if QEII outworked her, considering she was meeting a new PM the day before she died.

  26. Libra says:

    It appears that Kate has a family reputation of being work shy. Didn’t her father ask William not to make her work too hard? Michael knew then what we know now. She is not a self starter which answers the question of why Carole needed to coach her in the art of the chase and prod her along when progress was slow.

  27. QuiteContrary says:

    English parents should be up in arms over W&K’s long vacations on the public dime.
    Every working person in the UK should be.

  28. Julianna says:

    I also believe William had a crush on Meghan from Suits. And I believe kate new it. If she didn’t know it then she found out soon after Meghan arrived. The way Bulliam looked her up and down at the wedding. There is also a video I think maybe at a RAF event when Meghan wore the dark navy/black dress William was seen biting his bottom lip looking at her. Meghan looked uncomfortable. And the look on Harrys face said it all. On the balcony I saw a video of him trying to talk to her at this same event and Waity with her frozen smile was head jerking back towards Bulliam each time she felt him turn his head turn back towards Meghan. I wouldn’t have put it Bulliam to have made a suggestion/pass towards Meghan.

  29. Julianna says:

    And as far as what they have worked this year. Pegs has worked all but 50 engagements and Waity has worked 45 fluffed up engagements in 233 days. Which is more like 50 hours in 233 days. And then they run off on another 2 month long holiday. I do not understand why the British people are okay with this???? This is insane. And these engagements aren’t even all in person. They include phone calls/meetings etc. This is insane.

  30. Well Wisher says:

    These charisma-challenged couple has one thing going for them, not enough individuals in the UK gives a whit’s ass about them, enough to hold them accountable in terms of their duties and responsibilities……

    They should realise the general public’s indifference shows how lucky they are……..

    Would it be too much to ask them to layoff their envy towards Harry and Meghan’s real popularity?

  31. Carmen says:

    What’s up with Kate’s face in the first pic? Did she walk into a fist or a wall?

  32. LisaR says:

    I have always thought that Kate’s problem with Meghan was how well she related with Charles, Camilla and QEII. Meghan and Charles loved discussing localvorism and organic foods. When Charles walked Meghan down the aisle she gazed adoringly at him. I have never thought Charles looked more attractive than when he clicked his heels before he walked away. Camilla took Meghan under her wing because Camilla was treated badly when she joined the family. We know Camilla did not want William to marry Kate. QEII and Meghan were both dog people. Even the Corgis liked Meghan, and the Queen brought Meghan’s dog to the wedding in her car!

    The Middletons must have sounded the alarm that Meghan had to be destroyed.