Prince William & Kate have only done 40 joint engagements in 8 months

With last week’s announcement about Prince Harry’s stop in the UK on September 7th, I thought the British papers would be full of all kinds of speculation and nastiness about the Sussexes over the weekend. While there was some of that, inevitably, there was also an undercurrent of “been there, done that” with the reporting. Like, there’s nothing new, even with Harry’s visit – nothing has changed and the storyline simply doesn’t have enough juice at the moment. So it’s interesting that there were suddenly some royal commentators making forays into “being critical about Lazy William and Lazy Kate.” Granted, there should have been wall-to-wall condemnation for William after he couldn’t be bothered to watch the Women’s World Cup final. But the invisible contract, etc. This is the kind of thing they can manage: noting that Kate and William only have a meager charitable portfolio of 50 patronages (combined) and that Will and Kate have only gone on 40 joint engagements this year, eight months into the year.

The Prince and Princess of Wales have been tipped to take on more responsibility due to their “unique position” in being able to boost the monarchy. Royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams has said that he thinks the couple will likely take on a slightly increased workload, and hold a “unique cachet” for doing so. The couple, who are often deemed two of the most popular royals, are currently patrons for 50 charities, as well as running their own projects on the side.

According to the Gert’s Royals website, which is the Encyclopaedia Britannica crossed with the Doomsday Book of royal watching, the couple have taken on 40 joint engagements so far this year. This information, which was collected last month, shows that the couple’s number of engagements appear similar to that of 2019. This has sparked questions as to whether the couple will take on more than they previously have done, particularly now that their three children are growing older.

Speaking exclusively to, Mr Fitzwilliams said that he believes they will increase their workload, adding: “I would think William and Catherine might well take on more, those they have taken on certainly have a unique cachet…After the Queen’s death and after the Sussexes and Andrew ceased to carry out royal engagements, the Palace announced a review of royal patronages. With fewer of them and only four working royals under 70 expect fewer royal engagements.”

Speaking of the engagement numbers, he added: “This is comparatively few numerically compared to the usual number senior royals such as Princess Anne have been involved with, but [Kate and William] are in a unique position to boost the profile of those they are attached to.”

[From The Daily Express]

They’re “in a unique position to boost the profile of those they are attached to” unless a patronage needs boosting during their two-month summer holiday or during their annual six-week holiday around Easter, or during their post-Christmas holiday when they aren’t seen for about five weeks. I mean, what did the Lionesses think? Their patron would actually show up to support them and do his job? Of course not. Anyway… only 40 joint engagements in eight months is pretty paltry! But way to put a bow on it, royal experts!

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  1. Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

    But Kate hadn’t visited one of her charities in 8 years!!

    • SussexWatcher says:

      That video of the charity person calling her out on how long it had been since they’d seen her is pure gold.

      And several of her charities have folded and she didn’t lift one single finger to help them in any way. No fundraiser, no emergency meetings, zip zilch zero.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Wasn’t Mumbles caught on camera rolling her eyes at that or something.

      • Bossy says:

        So they have five months vacation? Damn… nice gig!

      • BeanieBean says:

        @Bossy: I think somebody added it up once. Their ‘work’ totals four months a year, so they get eight months off. Or was the the US Congress? 🤷‍♀️ Could be both.

      • Debbie says:

        No “summit” meetings at all for Kate’s failed charities?

      • DK says:

        Sure sounds to me like W&K are only “part-time royals” since they work closer to half time than full.
        Ready to kick ’em out too, Chucky?
        Pretty sure much of the rest of Britain is….

    • AnnaKist says:

      I’ve said it before, and I will say it over and over again: they are a pair of khazy lunts. A pair of disgusting bludgers. They managed five events together each month for eight months. . Just goes to show they couldn’t manage a cow pat.

      More fool him for not coming to Australia to watch the Lionesses in the semi-final or the final. It would have been a great mini break, especially for the children. How exciting to be in a stadium with 75,000 soccer fans to watch this historic game! And the weather was absolutely glorious – sunny, warm, end-of-winter days – just brilliant! Ah, stuff him. He is a sad wanker.

      • LRB says:

        And Letizia’s daughter could have talked to Charlotte…. The two spares. Age gap may seem huge atm, but it won’t when they are grown. Building relationships with other European royals seems to happen… but the Brits are excluded because they are too arrogant. The final was amazing, I was supporting the Lionessess, but on the day the Spanish deserved to win. Just so ashamed Willi wasn’t there, and so sad for the Spanish ladies that the mess of ‘the kiss’ has taken the glory from them.
        William and Kate are both a total disgrace… so looking forward to Invictus now. You show them Harry ( and Meg)

      • belly says:

        khazy lunts!!!

        So true, but fark me that’s the best descriptor that won’t be censored… I’m tickled

        KL not so far from KP either, haaaa

    • Julianna says:

      Yes! I remember that. It was Action on Addiction. Her main patronage at the time. The charity worker even made a comment to her about it being so long since she had been there and she snarkily replied “oh, well it feels like yesterday”. I cant find this video online anymore. They rid it of the internet.

    • westcoastgal says:

      These two are worse than so called “half-time” royals, they are the barely ever working and empty handed royals.

  2. SussexWatcher says:

    Bahaha, hope you’re happy, royal reporters and Pa Chuckles. You got what you wanted – Harry and Meghan banished and two lazy do-nothings with 50(!!) patronages between them promoted. Is that 10% of what other senior royals have? Less? What an embarrassment those two are.

    And writing articles begging for them to “take on more” now that the children are older won’t do a thing. In fact it’ll probably make Peg dig his heels deeper into not taking on more work. And his lazy mean girl wife will follow his lead.

    I can’t stop laughing. Chuckles and the British press, you got what you deserved.

    • Couch Potato says:

      I think this is one of the reasons for the storys about Willnot needing Harry for his reign. He did the worke on big projects and then Willnot and Kate joined in on the launching, calling it a combined project. Harry was the buffer between them, keeping the spirits up which translated to the three closely knit family members for the press snd public. And last, but not least; Harry is a peoples person. Like his mother, he connects and talks easily with all kinds of people. When he was present,he cowered up the uneasyness of the other two. Making it look like they were more engaged than they really were. Now that they are left on their own, they show again and again that the emperor has no clothes on.

    • Jae says:

      Exactly! you can’t make this stuff up. They “cut their nose off” to “spite their face” 🤣🤣
      The British press and royal failures are scrambling for any type of news regarding the DDoS in order to cover the mess the incompetents created. It still doesn’t change the fact that the monarchy is going down the toilet 🚽

  3. Kokiri says:

    I don’t prefer to spend time with people I loathe, either.
    And loathe her he does.

    • ML says:

      While what you said is true, unfortunately he seems to loathe his charities/ work even more. (As does she.)

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Yes that’s true!! And no amount of articles that Fitzwilliams, and his ilk, report will erase the profound truth of how lazy, pathetic and dishonest his praising will be and will NOT hide , or erase, the truth!!

        The entire public AND the BaRF know EXACTLY what W&K do each year and it’s pathetic, especially those like Princess Anne whose CC numbers are 2-3xs times greater.

  4. ThatsNotOkay says:

    This article isn’t even critical. It’s just: if they were to take on more, oh what a boon it would be to those lucky patronages.

    Now, sure, this is that patented British-speak for “get off your royal arses and be more visible, you donkeys,” but nicer. Because the tabloids are known to be ever-so-kind to anyone with the right DNA.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      I know. It’s so pathetic the way they bend over backwards to avoid offending the two lazy slobs.

    • Becks1 says:

      It’s not critical per se but when you combine it with Palmer’s comments we discussed yesterday about “eyebrows being raised,” I think its clear the press is starting to send a message to W&K. Even here he says “I would think William and Catherine might well take on more,” which I’m interpreting as “those two need to get off their lazy butts and work.”

      It’s definitely nicer than it needs to be, but its clear the RRs are getting antsy.

    • Harper says:

      The Rota see an opening with the massive criticism Burger King got with the World Cup fiasco. But this namby-pamby wording awash with praise for being “unique?” is laughable. Keep your eyes open to see if more Rota start saying they are unique as a buzzword press alert may have gone out from KP.

      Also, we were told before the Queen died that Kate was going to be going it on her own in the future, as Burger King’s presence inhibited her. She would go down more slides if Prince Eye Roll wasn’t around. So they should know already that there would be less joint engagements.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yep. I distinctly remember KP saying they’d do more solo events. Not that they are, of course! So definitely fewer joint events. And this whole ‘unique position’ stuff makes me want to puke. They’re doing the same things! They’re the same people! The POW title makes zero difference in their lives!!!

    • Megan says:

      Is this their way of saying Kate has done 40 engagements in the last eight months?

    • Nic919 says:

      The articles about them being lazy are starting to add up. This was being discussed in 2015 and 2016. I recall the trip to India and Bhutan was heavily criticized so this is a return to form for some of these rota.

      Pretending that they offer a unique cachet is a big joke.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Nic919, it’s actually quite embarrassing to place them into the category of “unique” when they show us, and have a very long history of NOT being “unique” in any sense of the word.

        W has certainly opened himself up for being criticized more for his blatant disregard to the Women’s Soccer league!! W wasn’t willing to do the bare minimum as he was on vacation, for 3 months no less, as they played in the world finals!! It’s about TIME that be criticized for his refusal of NOT attending as HE is the GD President for the Football Federation!!!

  5. HennyO says:

    These two lazy weasels never worked much and will not change that pattern in the near future. Even Charles can’t get them to up their lazy a*ses.

    They only became ‘fulltime working royals’ after Meghan entered the seen in 2018, years into their marriage, while being funded fulltime with Duchy ánd taxpayers money.

  6. Tina says:

    I felt there was a clear shift once he got the Duchy of Cornwall funds. He has been much more openly hostile to her and simply isn’t hiding it anymore. I think they will do less and less together from now on.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      I wonder if there will come a time Chuckles will just tell them to divorce because the optics are so bad, like what happened with him and Princess Diana. And maybe use the timing to cover up bad/corrupt news about himself.

      • EasternViolet says:

        Kate is so much more guarded than Diana in public. There will have to be much more uncomfortable photos circulating to start the D conversation, in my honest opinion. William generally comes across as cold and uncomfortable… not a defense of W&K, just my reading on the room.

      • Tina says:

        I think they will just do less and less together. Eventually the kids will go to boarding schools etc. They will only have to do a handful of joint events a year like Easter, trooping, remembrance day etc that would be family events and the kids will be shields.

  7. Eurydice says:

    So interesting that this focuses on W&K’s joint engagements, rather than total number of engagements. I don’t remember the BM wondering about Charles and Camilla’s joint engagements, or any other of the royals. It looks like a subtle finger point at how W&K can’t stand to be together.

    • Dutch says:

      And it’s letting the air out of the “New power couple!” balloon that gets floated out there every time H&M are seen out together in public.

    • Susie says:

      Thanks I was a bit confused if it was joint meaning them together at an event or joint as in this is all the 2 of them have done in total. Either way it’s very telling of their relationship.

      I think the point you made is interesting about the focus of the article. I think you can spin joint numbers easier. He’s allowing her the freedom to grow as she ages and gets more confident by herself. 🙄
      But if you put their total numbers and that number is super low then it’s harder to excuse even with their media cheerleaders esp after they became PPOW and this recent World Cup scandal.
      It can also be compared to what Chaz did when he was geriatric POW. All the super old royals are doing way more than them. Plus They are losing their excuses as the kids get older and their status has increased. The year before the queen got super sick but was still frail she was doing way more events then their current numbers.

      None of the rota will touch relationship rumours so their joint event numbers is an easy distraction that doesn’t cause real damage.

      • Julianna says:

        Their solo engagement numbers aren’t much better. Will 55 and Kate 45. They are useless and lazy.

    • Nic919 says:

      I agree that the focus on joint engagements is a bit of poking the bear. Besides wasn’t there an article a year or so ago that they were supposed to increase their number of solo engagements? Neither has really done that either.

      What’s even worse is that so many of these engagements are just them attending sports events. Or the coronation events. Not many actual charity appearances.

  8. Becks1 says:

    You notice they’re not saying how many individual engagements they’ve done, because that number would be embarrassingly low, especially for Kate and her phone calls. My guess is at this point in the year, Kate is probably around 40 individual engagements, but thats only if you count things like her phone calls, etc. So she’s at 80 (lets just say), does anyone think she’s going to do another 50 before the end of the year?

    I’m going to put her at 110 max for the year. We should take bets.

    Anyway, yes these numbers are bad and they are problematic because…..well, W&K are just lazy and they cant use the children as an excuse anymore. I think the WC was a bit of a turning point here because that’s something that so many people would like to attend. I mean my team (the US) was out well before the finals, and if someone said to me “do you want to attend the WC final between England and Spain, all expenses paid, first class flight” I would have said “what time is the flight?” I think its a sticking point bc so many people are having issues wrapping their head around someone saying “nah, not going to do it, and you can’t make me” with something like this.

    And then you factor in that they are in the midst of a two month vacation, after attending the wimbledon finals, the poor lambs – and everyone knows they’re going to take a two week vacation in October and another 6 week vacation at christmas and a month vacation at Easter etc…..and I think its wearing thin. ESPECIALLY for the press who want the clicks.

    I also think the concept of royal “work” is wearing thin in itself for a lot of people – letting the peasants see you as you attend church on Easter Sunday is not “work.” they got away with that for decades obviously, but I think that is just starting to seem…..well, too “you should be happy we let you get a glimpse of us” and its very out of touch. When you look at comments on social media about events like that, considered “work,” the comments are getting less and less supportive and more and more “that’s called work?”

    So here, you have these two who have always been the laziest royals. They’re so lazy they can’t even do what the rest of us would LOVE to be able to do, and they consider blessing the plebians with their presence is “work” to up their numbers.

    then you factor in that they are just boring as well…….and if I was a RR, I’d be worried because where’s the fun, where’s the charisma, where’s the excitement, where’s the drama that I need to get clicks?

    and if I was part of KP I’d be worried bc the RRs know where the drama is.

    • Eurydice says:

      I don’t think the public or the press would care about “work” if W&K weren’t boring. But Will has inherited all the worst characteristics of the British aristocracy – dry, stiff, stuffy, snobby and with zero curiosity outside of his world – even his probable sex life isn’t all that interesting. And Kate’s got all the worst attributes of a middle-class striver – desperately copying without understanding why. They are so obviously not the glamour couple their PR have been trying to project.

      • Tessa says:

        Kate is also very stepford. She also used.mean girl tactics to see off rivals for William over the years and waited out the breakups. No aristo wanted William so he settled for Kate.

      • Eurydice says:

        @Tessa – sure, we can call it Stepford – very robotic. She was programmed to get William – even the mean girl tactics are robot survival. But, sadly, she wasn’t programmed to do anything else.

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes! the boring part is a huge issue because even when they make an appearance, its boring. Oh look, Kate is in another coatdress. Oh look, she’s wearing McQueen. Oh look, William is in blue chinos with brown suede shoes, a white button down, a navy sweater and a brown sportscoat. Or some variation thereof. Oh look, Kate is mumbling away to someone at a charity that she knows nothing about.

        They’re boring so it means even their public appearances are boring, so when they’re only doing 100 a year, its just….boring.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Becks – isn’t 110 about normal for her though? For some reason it’s in my head that she’s usually at about 125 for the year. Or am I completely misremembering?

      I think the RRs will just start to create drama since these two lazy bores are all they have left. That means more articles about the fumbling bumbling scamming Middletons, hints of Peg’s affairs, Keen’s incompetence, the low numbers for the lazy Wailses, living separate lives, demands to see the children, delusional pieces about Peg’s popularity and Keen’s beauty, etc.

      • Becks1 says:

        110 is about normal for her, so her 90 for last year was super low. So I think she’s going to stick with the 110, but I’m also assuming she’s around 80 currently, which could be wrong. So even as Duchess of Cornwall, with all that $$$, and Princess of Wales, she’s not going to increase her numbers. Even with all three kids in school full time, she’s not working more.

        She’ sjust never going to work more and its funny to me that the press is acting like its just NOW a problem.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate has cracked 150 only one year. She hovers around the 120 ish mark although for a while she was barely cracking 100.

        Now she has added more phone calls and meetings with Jason to bump the numbers.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Becks1, I checked Gert’s Royals website and they show the following for WanK:
        William solo= 55
        Khate solo= 45
        Joint = 40

        Now I have to tell you that there are the regular “meeting with Royal Foundation” explanations. My guess is a phone call, if that.

        They don’t show any confirmed engagements for them in August, September and October, which is interesting. Isn’t the trip to New York a ‘royal’ engagement?

      • Becks1 says:

        @Saucy I admit 45 is more than I had anticipated! She’s done 85 public appearances this year? Maybe I’ll put her at 125 for the year then.

        I guess those phone calls and mysterious EY meetings that no one knows about start to add up for her……

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Becks1, well, she’d have to start doing something soon to reach 125. We’ll see.

    • Lucy says:

      The other day I said that if they had charities that they consistently supported annually, (like Harry and WellChild), it would help them appear less lazy and make them look stable, which is what they’re supposed to represent. Right now the only thing they’re consistent about is their vacations, since we can all rattle them off.

      The closest they have to consistency in work is that January/February is Keen to be Early Years, March sometimes is the shamrock thing if they feel like it, maybe Easter Sunday photos, and then maybe Trooping and Ascot. Flower shows only if Kate can be the center of attention. Wimbledon usually gets attended, then after that? I guess Will is making Earth Shot a thing, let’s see if he’s still doing it three years from now, and they’ve been pushing the Christmas Carol thing. So less than one event a month happening predictably, year to year. Their entire job is supposed to be representing the country, give the appearance of stability, and help folks that they can. They think their job is getting photos that look regal.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate is consistent in attending Wimbledon which she has done every year, even the years she was on leave. That’s about all she is consistent at attending.

    • Susie says:

      Becks- I think the boredom thing is the most dangerous aspect for W+K. Idle hands are the devils playground. The media is really bored and sitting on exciting storylines they can’t openly discuss without truly hurting the institution. But they need excitement and they British tabloids aren’t known for their restraint. How long until they pick silence over dramatic front pages. Esp after the gluttony of the Sussex years.

      The kids are still too young and Charles is now king so you can’t attack him as openly. Camilla has too many friends. The Andrew story is dangerous to remind the public of. Fergie has cancer and is in recovery so you can’t mock her. Sussexes have been incognito (which is why the Instagram thing is now a story). And until Invictus there aren’t any new pics and a lot of the storylines are a bit tired and boring and contradictory. 9 months (or really 4 years) of daily yelling at Harry and Meg about spare and privacy is a diminishing pool even for the hardcore haters.

      Right now the only people available to go after or discuss is the Waleses. Plus will gave them an easy one with the lionesses. They won’t attack him to strongly but they will “raise eyebrows” and poke him a bit. This numbers story is one of those pokes. Also Articles they can refer back to in 20years saying “see we knew the open secrets we just couldn’t discuss them out loud. “ And it’s a message to him that he better start producing content or they will and he won’t be so happy.

      I just wonder how long this will be sustainable. The big secrets are too damaging and the Tory press wants to maintain the royals. But the Waleses are super SUPER boring. And the North Korean butt kissing only makes them more boring. Can this last until the kids are teens and become “fair play”. The next decade of royal watching with be both super boring and really fascinating as the media decides whether to prioritize the aristocratic institution or their front pages.

      • Eurydice says:

        @Susie – I suppose it depends on how big and how damaging are the secrets. If they’re “monarchy killers” it might be a prudent distraction to throw Kate under the bus. A divorce will give the tabloids the interesting stories they crave…for a while.

    • Julianna says:

      Kates current solo number so far is 45… and William is 55.

  9. YeahRight says:

    Not at all surprised. The pressure is off with H & M gone. They don’t have to do anything and who is going to make them? That spineless king can’t threaten them with withholding money because as the now Wales they have access to their own money well.

  10. AMTC says:

    Hang on, I’m confused. I thought Katey was furious with the Sussexes for leaving her with the workload of a CEO minus the leave.

    Btw that wiglet in the top photo is really trying to make a run for it.

  11. Mslove says:

    Why would they do more work all of a sudden? They don’t have to. Who is going to hold them accountable?
    The BM won’t write the truth about Pegs & he knows it.

    • Emma says:

      I do think that as the cost of living keeps going up and more families are struggling with the increases, not just those on lowest incomes, there’s going to be a growing swell of people asking what we’re actually paying our tax payer money for! Any good will the Queen had is evaporating rapidly. Charles and Camilla are not as popular, and Will and Kate so lazy and boring. They’re the youngest working royals, why should they both be there each afternoon to welcome kids back from school? And have months and months of holiday every year! They’re all about privilege, but nothing about duty or responsibility.

      Don’t get me started on Andy who should be locked up!

      I’d far prefer my taxes were funding free school meals in primary schools or for the NHS.

    • HuffnPuff says:

      100% agree. There’s always an excuse – newlyweds, W is flying helicopters, children, the queen’s death. They have no intention of doing more no matter how many negative articles are written. They have their money now (another past excuse for limited outings) so they’re really going to sit back.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    Gert can’t be happy that her website is being used to criticise her beloved William and Kate. I don’t think William and Kate will ever increase their workload.

    • Nic919 says:

      I was thinking the same. Gert can’t be happy about this.

    • Jais says:

      I don’t know much about Gert aside from her recording what the royals are doing. I didn’t know William and Kate are her beloved. Lol, mustn’t she just get depressed as she records their numbers.

  13. Jay says:

    The BM can cajole, encourage, and wheedle all they want, but they have been left with the duds and they know it.

    William and Kate are both 40, and neither of them have ever had to take responsibility or do anything they didn’t want to do. They never had to step up and their most mediocre efforts were praised. Why would they suddenly change who they are now?

    • Brit says:

      Exactly. The Wales’ know they have a protection racket and I think the press don’t like being taken advantage of. The irony is that the press is stuck with two dullards they have to constantly praise to make interesting and it’s not working.

  14. Tessa says:

    Kate can hit the piano keys in pre recorded program again to show she supposedly works. Charles deserves this he let William r in amok and drive the sussexes out. Bringing the children into it is ridiculous. They are in school and stepping up the work would still give the keens a lot of free time.

  15. The Duchess says:

    This number will only dwindle further within the next few years. It’s evident they can’t stand to be in each other’s company, so why bother pretending all the time when they can do it for only half the year? I agree with what many commenters have said past and present regarding this. There was an evident shift around the Diana statue unveiling and subsequently when Baldy became PoW and gained access to all of the Duchy funds. His body language towards Keen shifted seismically. The distance between them during the mourners walk at Windsor, the swatting of her hand (Melanie style) at the BAFTAs and the constant shots of him rolling his eyes at her at so many events. All of this happening within the last year or so. It’s like he’s done putting on a show and Keen is slowly accepting her fate. Her job was done the moment she delivered the heir and spare(s). She would be beyond deluded to think she has any further purpose in this game.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      I really wonder what happened around that time (statue unveiling), as you bring up. Had Pegs fallen in love with a mistress? What else could have happened that he didn’t already know about his wife? He would have already known she was leaking her own good press narratives to the RRs or pushing her way into spaces he didn’t want her (the unveiling). It seems like *something* monumental had to have happened behind the scenes for his shift in behavior toward her to be so noticeable. Was it the realization Harry was never coming back? Does that timing fit?

      What was it?! 👀

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I always think back to Harry’s comment saying ‘if only you knew what I know’ – to me that reads he knew who was leaking against Meghan and had the receipts to prove it. And I think he had proof that Mumbles and her family had been leaking for years. I also think about that time Peggy has a ‘come to Jesus’ moment with the Middleton’s when he realised he had been played by them – something big happened prior to that event as Ma was in the press claiming she was a better mother to him than Diana was.

        Now that the Middleton’s have been knee capped to a large degree. Catty is being managed out – that is pretty obvious. She’s doing less engagements than before and she has been moved out into the country. Only a matter of time before there is a divorce announcement – am more than convinced thats what coming up soon enough. The UK press keeps hinting at state of the Wails marriage.

      • Nic919 says:

        The fashion show at Philips funeral was a factor because that’s when he got snippy with her when she tried to join a conversation he was having with Harry when they left the chapel and she ended up backing away.

        I also suspect some of the information that came out during the Oprah interview also peeved him. I don’t think he ever got the full story about the crying incident from kate until Meghan explained it to the globe.

        (The change in zoom rooms from Anmer to Sandringham was also a sign something had shifted. This was all around the same time. )

      • Becks1 says:

        Yes, the zoom room change, Philip’s funeral, The Interview – all within a few months (weeks?) of each other. And then we saw her being purposely excluded in every way from the statue unveiling. Then the discussion about separate homes – sorry, a new home in Windsor – started up and we saw that publicly play out for a year.

        When you look at it like that – its clear SOMETHING happened in March/April 2021 and it was the final straw for their marriage. Maybe it was one incident, maybe it was a culmination of things, we dont know. But its clear there was a shift and then the windsor talk started up.

      • ChattyCath says:

        I think it was Khate’s horrible press pictures in the car. Her jewelled mask, dipped eyes like Diana and story eulogising her was the ultimate bad taste. It was Prince Philip’s funeral ! The Queen had to sit alone and grieve but Khate’s pics were orchestrated with her own photographer. Selfishness and self aggrandisement .

      • Gabby says:

        I think KKKate was the one who made “the comment” and the Oprah interview was the first William heard of it. I really, really, really think it was her.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Becks1, I think Spring 2020 was a big breaking point. Harry and Meghan left, then COVID Lockdown. COVID broke a lot of relationships. W&K only zoomed a few times from Anmer Hall, then started zooming from the main house.

        William had COVID in April, Kate and kids never did. I know, I know, that happened to regular people too. To me it still indicates William was *not at Anmer Hall* during a lot of lockdown. Was he with Rose next door? At the main house or at Wood Farm?

        Philip was forcibly removed from Wood Farm to bubble with QEII in March 2020. They separated for a bit, then he was moved again to bubble with QEII in November. That freed up Wood Farm for William for long stretches during all of 2020.

        Living separately from Kate, under cover of COVID lockdown, gave him a sense of freedom he didn’t want to lose. When forced back with her at the start of 2021? Not what he wanted. Philip died in April 2021. By then William had his head full of a Kate-free life and wasn’t going to tolerate her games around the funeral and statue unveiling.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nota thats an interesting take and could be right. IF they quarantined separately, then maybe William realized he was not interested in even pretending anymore.

        They definitely zoomed from Anmer though until 2021, and sometimes KP during that, which is why in the spring of 2021 I said it seemed like everything changed at once. Maybe that was when they were told they needed to make a decision about their failing marriage and William decided to separate (so kept Kate from statue, annoyed with her performance at the funeral, started the move to Windsor push) and then the Queen’s death in 2022 halted any announcement etc.

  16. Again the wrong couple was backed. Had you let Harry and Meg do the work they wanted and not been so jealous and racist then it wouldn’t have been as noticeable that the others were so incredibly lazy. So here we are are with the leftovers . You got rid of the fresh and charismatic and you are stuck with the expiring leftovers.

  17. sunny says:

    Can’t say that I’m shocked. They dislike working almost as much as they dislike each other.

    Lol to Charles who played himself. What an absolute moron. Couldn’t have happened to a more pathetic, needy, cruel, short-sighted ego-driven monster.

  18. Lizzie says:

    Aside from the tabloids I believe the Lazy Wails are mostly ignored in the UK. The tabloids insist they are glamorous and popular but we have seen arrivals where you could count onlookers on both hands. While they are incredibly precious and lazy, these two working more probably won’t change anything. It’s been proven that a royal patron doesn’t financially benefit a charity. George V rebranded the family and found a way to be useful to the country, Charles III needs a new plan and it needs to be more than photo ops for Kate.

  19. Noor says:

    So basically this is an outright admission that the Wales’s workload remain dismally low and did not increase after Prince Phillip died, after the Queen’s death , after the Sussexes left and after Prince Andrew ‘s forced retirement .

    However the public funding of the monarchy would increase by 45% from 2025 onwards even though the number of working royals has reduced and the total no of royal engagements has fallen; and many charities remain without royal patronage after the death of Philip and the late Queen.

    • Mary Pester says:

      Ah fitzy, fitzy, fitzy, for once you are right! Yep willy and katey are in a unique position in the Royal family, because they are the laziest two Royals EVER! UNIQUE in the fact that they take from the Royal purse (courtesy of the tax payers) and do sweet fk all to earn it! Unique because they are the only Royal couple that make it obvious they can’t stand each other and unique in the fact that they both need a serious intervention. So thanks fitzy for highlighting it, but I think you have broken your part in the invisible contract 😂😂😂

      • Jais says:

        @mary pester, your all-caps emphasis on UNIQUE just got a Beyoncé song in my head. Pretty sure when Queen Bey says unique it is not about these two lazy people. But you’re right. They are certainly “unique” in their own way😂

      • Mary Pester says:

        @Jais, yep bet willys regretting “putting a ring on it 😂😭💍

  20. girl_ninja says:

    Such lazy bums. What could they possibly be doing that they can’t muster up an hour visit at least twice a month?!? Assist in throwing a fundraiser every now and again? Disgraceful.

  21. Lady Digby says:

    This duo remind me of Prince Albert and his very unhappy wife who live separately and make rare joint appearances together for big events. FK can’t hide his disdain for his wife, he exudes misery around her and it does make such a difference when they are doing public engagements together. Most people on this site will have attended social events with a married couple on the rocks and the tension is palpable and uncomfortable to witness at second hand. All their staff and handlers will also know the score behind the scenes and clearly the BRM do as well. FK will make the decision on any divorce NOT wifey who is still hanging on like a limpet. Can he afford a hit to his public image if he split up from KM and things get messy? He is no big hitter in terms of work, passion or committment to any cause otherwise than living high off the hog. What are his actual achievements at 41 other than lazing around and bullying his brother and sister in law and doing loads of shouting and shoving?

    • Jaded says:

      You’re spot on about socializing with couples whose marriages are crumbling. It’s embarrassingly noticeable. I imagine if push comes to shove and they make their separation official, Willnot will likely put the blame on Khate for his lack of work ethic. “I needed to be there for her, the pressures of royal life got too much for her” or “I wanted to be a hands-on dad to help her cope” or some such hogwash. But then the rubber will HAVE to hit the road work-wise as she’ll be stuffed away at Adelaide Cott or Anmer with the kids most of the time. What will he do other than chase women? Nothing will change unless this so-called Balmoral Summit is going to be a “sh*t or get off the pot” come-to-Jesus meeting where Pa cracks a couple of heads together and lays out a carved-in-stone plan for them, marriage and work-wise.

      • Eurydice says:

        If there’s a divorce, I lmagine he’ll heap a lot more blame on Kate than just a lack of work ethic. I can imagine him blaming Kate for the rift between him and Harry. I can see the “she made me cry” story coming round to bite her in the ass, and he can blame her for being cold and dismissive, and tell how he magnanimously invited H&M on the memorial walk at Windsor, but Kate derailed it by going all Wicked Witch toward Meghan.

      • Jaded says:

        @Eurydice — so true. He has a lot of ammunition to use against her (and her grifting family). He’s done with all the Midds.

      • Nic919 says:

        If she was behind the skin colour comment we will hear about that too. (I still think it’s William though. I don’t think Harry spoke to her much by that point )

      • Feeshalori says:

        Would Meghan have said Kate was a good person in that interview if she was the one who made that comment? I don’t think her goodness would extend that far. But I’m not Meghan. I also believe it was William, but I have no doubt that Kate agreed with him.

  22. CarltonB says:

    Fyi, rugby folk and press are out here tweeting nostalgic videos of Hazza having a blast with the English team. Meanwhile, Buttons, the new patron, probably doesn’t know there’s a world cup coming up.

    I’m guessing “unique position” is one of those Brit euphemisms or something

  23. aquarius64 says:

    The BM might as well tear up the invisible contract because it’s not working for them financially. There will be a ton of coverage for the Invictus Games and the rota will get in the back of the queue for access. German and US media will most likely will get dibs on exclusive interviews with Harry, and possibly Meghan. A royal sex scandal and divorce, War of the Waleses 2.0, will crank out content and print money for decades.

  24. notasugarhere says:

    This is going back to what they said at the start. Way back when their laziness was showcased 12 years ago. It was spun as – they won’t do joint engagements because that lessens the overall amount of work they can do. LOL

    In the last three years they’ve also spun temporary attachments to 2-3 charities per year. That’s all they’ll do. They’ll attach their names, have someone else do the fundraising, claim to have helped out, and drop the charity. They aren’t going to take on dozens of patronages, they aren’t going to do bread-and-butter.

  25. VilleRose says:

    Out of curiosity, how many appearances do Charles and Camilla do together in one year usually? I know Camilla always comes to the big stuff but she is definitely MIA at a lot of the smaller stuff. But my guess is their appearances together far outnumber William and Kate? Charles and Camilla actually like each other though and you can tell when they’re out and about together.

    I’m wondering if the media is highlighting the low number of the Wales’s joint appearances as another dig at their probably crumbling marriage. I don’t know how much Kate and William usually showed up together pre-pandemic but they definitely seemed to do more engagements together earlier in their marriage compared to now. I guess that could be argued that they’ve been married for over a decade and don’t need to do everything together which is true. But their body language together is so painful and I have to think this is another warning to Kate and William that if they don’t play ball, the media will continue to slowly rip the band-aid off of the actual state of their marriage.

    • Becks1 says:

      I’m not sure, it would be interesting to compare. Something i’ve noticed is that when they are in Scotland or Wales or Cornwall (they used to spend a week or two there every summer, visiting local fairs, etc), Camilla might join Charles on a day out and do maybe 3 of the 5 events he’s doing that day. And then she either spins off for her own thing or just goes home.

      Obviously Camilla works a great deal less than Charles and is pretty lazy in her own right. But it doesnt feel the same since she’s not being presented as the lynchpin of the monarchy, lol.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      VilleRose & Becks1, according to Gert’s Royals, C&C have done 72 Joint engagements in 2023.

    • Nic919 says:

      Charles has done over 200 solo engagements and 72 with Camilla. Camilla has done 47 solo engagements.

  26. QuiteContrary says:

    “Royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams has said that he thinks the couple will likely take on a slightly increased workload, and hold a ‘unique cachet’ for doing so.”

    “Slightly increased workload” … “unique cachet” … LOL … telling us W&K are lazy AF without outright saying they’re lazy AF.

  27. Well Wisher says:

    A basic calculation indicated 5 joint engagements per month, but they can easily boost those number by being out on 10 more dates per person, making it 10 single engagement and 5 joint.

    That would be asking too much of the smug, entitled.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Remember a phone call is consider an engagement.

      • Lorelei says:

        I maintain that the two of them would also count a text to one of their staffers as a “meeting” or whatever and have it recorded as work.

  28. Over it says:

    As much as I can’t stand wank and buttons and will forever con-sign that they are lazy dolts, I am here wondering where are Edward and Sophie? Cause from where I am sitting and yes I know they aren’t the future king and his buttons, those two also are working royals and they have also not be seen working for months. All of these people are lazy and useless.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Over it, I think you’d have to go to the court circular to discover Anne’s & Sophie-Edward’s numbers. I have a feeling that they’ve been working, but no one is paying attention to them.

    • Becks1 says:

      Edward did 11 engagements the first week of August. ELEVEN. Now granted a lot of them were on the same day (he was in Edinburgh), but when you consider Kate has done FORTY FIVE the entire year so far – Edward did in one week 1/4 of what Kate has done so far this year. It wasnt hard work, a lot of receptions and concerts, but even so – just think – 1/4 of Kate’s total engagements thus far in a week. (okay 9 days.)

      Edward and Sophie both work consistently, even with their extended vacations, but the press just doesnt cover them bc they’re, well, even more boring than the Waleses, lol.

      • AC says:

        Re Edward and Sophie 100% agree. They have a great work ethic but extremely boring that no one cares what they do 😀.
        Well they had HM, they were the superstars of the family, But WK jealousies got to their heads and kicked them out. So WK both get what they deserve .

      • Nic919 says:

        Pre pandemic Edward and Sophie clocked hundreds of engagements per year, with small kids. It would be in the 300 to 400 range for both.

        Plus Sophie did tours on her own that were more than just going down slides.

        The only ones who are excessively lazy are W and K. The rest of the working senior royals do make an effort.

  29. Norvell says:

    Help me understand this: The British Public is okay with footing the bill for these lazy people? They consider visits to businesses opening as “work”? No wonder Meg left: She could easily help her charitable interests without direction from the lazy ones. They called her a bully because Meghan believed their jobs required them to actually work. The British Press threatens the BR and government if they don’t give them information for news reporting. This is nuts!

  30. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    But if they did more work, would it make any difference? What, exactly, do they contribute to a charity other than photo-ops? Couldn’t they just write a check instead, and then get the heck out of the way, instead of intruding on work time and making people accommodate their schedules, photographers, security, etc.? Instead of demanding more “work,” they just need to start writing more checks. Better yet, get rid of the monarchy and distribute all that accumulated wealth.

    • notasugarhere says:

      W&K aren’t just supposed to do charity work. They are each supposed to do the 500 bread-and-butter engagements Charles and Anne do annually.

      That’s what gets people to keep supporting the monarchy. The memories of the time royal X opened the Church bazaar, or pinned ribbons on sheep, or visited the old folks home. Visit people in hospital, visit veterans, get out there and be seen.

      ‘I have to be seen to be believed’ – QEII

      • Becks1 says:

        We were in London last summer and the two hotels we stayed at had both been opened by royals – the one in London had had a grand reopening attended by Prince Philip and the one in Windsor was opened or attended or something by Prince William (prior to marriage, bc he wasn’t listed as Duke of Cambridge but Prince William of Wales.) The hotels had large plaques commemorating it. Those are the kinds of events W&K can do that would require little to no effort, just show up, cut a ribbon, get the photo op. And they can’t even do those on a regular basis.

  31. Lucky Charm says:

    So basically once a week. I would love to work two hours a week and have all my new clothes, jewelry, housing, security, vacations, and every other want and need fully funded by someone else other than me.