I’m really happy to see that no one is buying Joe Jonas’ week-long smear campaign against his estranged wife Sophie Turner. Sophie and Joe’s names have been trending on the artist formerly known as Twitter, and it’s just wall-to-wall call-outs for what Team Jonas is trying to do. First, Joe wanted sympathy because the poor dude is looking after his children this summer while Sophie works in England. Then he filed for divorce and leaked to TMZ that Sophie “likes to party,” GASP. Even if it was true (there’s no evidence that it is), liking to go out to a nightclub with friends isn’t a divorceable offense. Still, Team Jonas isn’t giving up their quest to turn Sophie into The Unfit Mother Who Likes To Party. Apparently, Joe was monitoring his wife on a ring camera and he saw her do or say something that he didn’t like. My dude, why are you monitoring your wife again? CREEP.
Joe Jonas saw/heard something with Sophie Turner that was the last straw in his decision to file for divorce, and it involves a ring camera.
Multiple sources who have direct contact with Joe tell TMZ … Joe had access to a ring cam that he said captured Sophie saying and/or doing something that made him realize the marriage was over.
TMZ broke the story … Joe and Sophie’s marriage had been on the rocks for at least 6 months, and it was all over a significant difference in lifestyles. As one source put it, “She likes to party, he likes to stay at home. They have very different lifestyles.”
As we reported, over the last 3 months, Joe has had the kids almost all the time. Sophie has been in London, but Joe and his bros were touring the U.S. and he had his 2 small kids in tow.
We know Joe had been in touch with at least 2 divorce lawyers last week. Interestingly, both lawyers are in L.A., yet he decided to file divorce docs Tuesday in Florida.
My question is about logistics – Sophie has been working in England for months, presumably staying at a hotel or some kind of rental home/apartment. When and where did this ring-cam incident take place? Did Sophie know she was on camera? Did she know Joe was monitoring her every f–king move? And was this just something he watched randomly, or was he poring over all of their ring-cam footage obsessively? I’ve seen a lot of people theorize that Sophie was probably just talking to a friend and bitching about her marriage or complaining about Joe. Anyway, this story makes Joe come across as such a creep.
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He may have called her and she rolled her eyes and declined the call. 🤣 Yes, I’m projecting. In all seriousness, she should thank her stars for his overblown ego. She can do better.
yes, exactly; she can do so much better, better she dodges this bullet now while she’s still young…and I’ve always thought that the Jonas bros think they are way cooler and talented than they really are
Probably her comment was “oh Fgs, my a-hole of a husband again, cannot stand him anymore” 😆😆
Or he heard her on the phone saying “And now this tiny motherfucker is trying to get me to have a third baby.”
I would scream with joy if it was this!
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If she was partying in the UK, the Sun or Daily Fail would have photos and said photos would be splashed all over the place. I call shenanigans on Team Jonas.
Yeah, this has a lot of stink all over it from the Jonas camp. It’s like his people decided to play out the same dumb games Brad Pitt’s people did. F*ck that shite.
So, 5 years ago, our neighbor’s daughter was living with her fiance/ee? Our neighbor’s asked us the “What do you think question?”. We’re like he seems like a pretty passive/aggressive controlling guy based on what you’ve told us.
Their daughter became suspicious when he would make certain benign comments about her day when there was no way he would know unless she told him. She didn’t. It wasn’t until her 17 year old son discovered a hidden camera in their townhouse. Her son & father secretly set up their own secret camera (she knew). She kicked his (fiance not son) to the curb. He went on a smear campaign.
Mea culpa. Don’t know all the details. Dude is not welcome in a lot of places in our area.
So not only are you watching the Ring camera video, you’re cranking up the audio? Not a fan.
This is disgusting behavior. First, your divorce ain’t our business. Second, to try to smear her with a vague accusation, to try to impugn her character shows such disdain for her. She’s better off without him.
I hope his crappy efforts to criticize her for being, apparently, a modern, working mom and wife continue to bite the dust. It sounds like he’s mad that she’s working and that she had to travel work for even though he’s doing the same thing.
Tbh, I still don’t entirely understand his over-the-top-villain need to not only divorce her, but also to completely damage her reputation and LYING in a way that can be disproven to do it.
He’s spent the last week threatening her in the media, and I hope she and the kids are all right!
Which leads to the question: What did HE do?
Yes ML very good, what did HE do. Abusers like to make sure they get to everyone first and discredit you before you can discredit them. Even when it’s clear you just want to move on and mind your business. Smear campaign starts immediately.
Mine is trying to smear me to me! Lol.
I think your last sentence is the key. First of all outside of TMZ nobody is buying his story and in fact other outlets are bringing up video of him talking about her being a home body and an introvert as well as Tik Tok people saying he was the one seen out clubbing until 3am in the weeks before the annoucement. I think he did something while she was away and he is trying to bury her so his thing will seem forgivable. He has a history of blaming younger women for his mistakes and outlets are starting to post them. He blamed Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato for pressuring him to try weed even though he was 17 and they were like 13 years old
He might be going for full/sole custody. The whole thing comes across as very planned from his side. A smear campaign all ready to go, filing while he has the children and she is out of the country. It makes me wonder if Sophie was blindsided. The whole thing has a nasty vibe.
He might just be trying to get ahead of something bad he did becoming public – but he came out hard with the bad mother narrative, so I suspect that he (and his family?) want to limit her access to the children. Like I’ve said, this gives me vibes of the Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman divorce where he blindsided her, got physical custody and then alienated the children from her.
Art Historian, I agree with you about him going for full custody being a motivator here. Maybe that’s all this is.
It’s just so clunky the way he’s going about it. He’s on record as being a partying extrovert whereas she’s the homebody. He accuses her of being absent and it turns out she’s away for work. The tabloids tear into her for partying and it’s the end celebration for her latest job…so much of what he’s accused her of can easily be disproven. I don’t understand his thought process or how this helps him gain custody. If anything, if Sophie can show the judge (presuming the judge in Miami is fair) that he’s attacking her unfairly, that might help her. It’s so over the top it just feels to me like he’s hiding something. And he’s outed himself as abuser.
@ML One does not say no to a narcissist. Any form of rejection is considered an act of war to the narcissist. The smallest expression can be considered a rejection and the narcissist will lose it.
Joe has always struck me as someone who desperately needs attention, validation, and subservience. I’m glad Sophie is being freed from him.
Well also the filing was in Florida.
So as far as planned goes, there you have it.
God I hope she gets a knick off one time consultation with Wasser asap.
I don’t want her to actually contract Wasser, but I want her to make Wasser unavailable to discount Mr Bean.
Unless he saw her bringing someone else home that she was clearly hooking up with, I can’t think of what it could have been. And if it was that, I feel like that would have come out over the past week, right?
For the record I love our ring cameras but hate them for this reason. I hate that my husband could keep tabs on my comings and goings if he wanted. He usually turns his notifications off if he’s at work or something and knows I’m going in and out, but he CAN always check (I mean I could too if I felt like getting the app, hahaha.) And sometimes he will say to me “kept forgetting things huh” because he can tell if it goes off like 5 times in a minute its bc I’m out to the car, back inside, out to the car, back inside. And we have a normal marriage and the purpose of the cameras is in no way to “track” either of us (I actually hate answering the door so like the Ring bc I can see who is there, lol, and we had some things stolen a few years ago so we put the other camera up.)
We have an interior camera that we turn on when we’re not home to watch the dogs (lol) but I take the battery out of that the instant we walk back in the house.
The cameras serve a purpose but I can also see how they can really be used to control someone. I can’t imagine what an abusive spouse could do with those cameras, you know?
I am similar to you. We have the cameras and husband has the app on his phone, but I don’t. It did bother me a little in the beginning that he could see when I was coming and going. Thankfully he has never commented on my movements.
Mine checked. It was cool when I didn’t want to answer the doorbell but every time the door open or closes I can hear the beep beep beep of him checking.
The worse part is that he has a wifi on the garage too. He got it because I would sometimes forget to let it down and he could let it down remotely.
But now that we are separated… let’s just say he’s accused me of coming home late because I must be seeing someone else if I’m over him. I’ve got a new deadbolt ready to install and I need to turn the garage door wifi off
Personally, I would uninstall all those Rings and get new ones that only you control. I would also change all my wifi passwords, etc. You have 100% right to privacy and autonomy.
Naye, What you wrote sounds really concerning. Make sure your passport, credit cards, things of that neture can’t fall into his hands—if necessary try to find someone you trust (who has nothing to do with him) to keep them or copies of them with. And it might also make sense to have a small bag with extra clothes: cash someplace secret in case you need to leave.
Nope. Shut it all down. Get a new internet provider and carefully monitor what traffic is going out from your house. There are ways of finding every device that is hooked up to your router. You may want to check that first. There are guides on the internet for women being electronically stalked. I would check them out and find one that suits your situation.
There’s a saying among techies: Normies go out and get every new device. The people who know have no smart devices in their house except maybe a printer, and they keep a gun handy in case it starts making odd noises.
And Joe Jonas can keep his spying ways to himself. Funny that someone at Amazon is probably on their lunch checking to see what really went down.
To me this feels like he’s getting ahead of something – by painting her as the bad mother/wife it would then make it easy for him to play the victim and place the blame for what he has done on her. i.e. its all her fault I cheated with a teenager, she wasn’t around or she’s a bad mother who abandoned her children hence why I can’t go on tour.
Yep, this is what I’m thinking, as well. He cheated with some hot young thing and knows it will look bad so he’s teying to convince us Sophie is a negligent, hard partying mother. I guess he doesn’t understand we can see how hard he is projecting his qualities onto her.
@Becks: YES! Same situation here: good marriage, husband not spying, but stupid app tells him every time I go in and out of the house. Plus we have a Tesla which not only tracks me but can tell him *how well I am driving*!!! He knows I hate it so he’s disabled what he can and doesn’t look at the rest, and sure I could keep the same kind of tabs on him if I cared to. But even the well-meaning “wow you left home late today, everything ok?” drives me f-ing berserk. And I agree: all of it seems more likely to be used (in a different kind of relationship than ours) for control/abuse than for prevention of some stranger-committed crime that might never happen. Sympathy and solidarity to you!
This gave me the BIGGEST creeps. The fact that he’s demeaned her character (in particular her motherhood) and then introduced the fact that he’s monitored her remotely for an unknown reason at least once really gives the impression of an abuser that believes own lies.
In an article (pajiba) I saw a tweet that basically read – tearing up b/c 20 years ago media would just parrot JJ’s PR talking points. But today my feed is full of – he must have done something really bad if he’s laying on PR like this.
I no longer go on Twitter / I believe the author was @katefeetie
But I LOVE this. That even if the Brad Pitt-like disinformation drops are parroted- a lot of people see all the way through that crap.
And he looks like a horrible person who did some bad stuff.
This is just over-the-top pathetic. What a loser.
Respectfully, is there any proof that Joe captured Sophie “doing” or “saying” something on a Ring camera that was so egregious it instantly caused him to file for divorce instead of getting in touch with her? Did anything actually happen?
He complained about caring for his daughters for three months while neglecting to say that his wife had been WORKING in England since May. Tabloids published pictures of her at a wrap party and insinuated that she had a drinking problem. In opposite land she’s no longer an introverted homebody and he is….Other than the mutual divorce statement, we’re only hearing from him and he’s actively smearing her reputation.
I think he heard her say she was getting a divorce lawyer or leaving him.
It’s a really weird thing to put out there unless you’re backing it up with proof. Really weird. That being said, people who are so creeped out by this — it’s not unusual for people to check their Ring when someone is coming or going unexpectedly. Not that I can’t see him being a full-on stalker, because I definitely can, but it’s not shocking that someone famous is checking his Ring when it goes off.
@Josephine. It really isn’t that weird when you place this story in the larger context of a smear campaign. This leaves the readers free to speculate about what horrible thing she said/did that made him pull the plug immediately. It is a very insidious tactic – and I really fear that Sophie is going to get completely screwed over because this whole thing comes across as very very calculated.
Checking your Ring when it beeps? Fine
But if you see it’s your spouse you say “okay it’s SO” . You don’t hang around and see what they doing or listen to what they are saying – you are making sure the person coming in belongs there, not monitoring your partner. That is if you’re a normal non-controlling non-glassbowl spouse.
This combined with the drip drip drip of character assassinations his team is have dropped on her this week :
Bad Mother! (Because she’s working instead of at home)
Abandoned her kids! (Because while she’s working they are home with their father)
Likes to party! (Because she went to a work wrap party)
Left the country! (Because that’s where her job was)
Left Joe all alone to care for children! (His children. For a few weeks/off and on this summer . At their home. While she’s working on location, a completely normal thing in her profession. After staying at home having 2 kids, the taking care of the kids for a couple of years while Joe … travelled for HIS job)
Saw her doing something on Ring! (What? Why be all secret squirrel? Why all the other stuff throughout the week if she did a bad bad thing? Why complain about her being away if she did something so heinous you have to immediately, scratch that, months later, file for divorce?)
It’s adding up, looking like a really creepy, manipulative attempt to drag her, destroy her public image.
But aren’t these the men who had the purity ring hang up for years?
That’s not a good start.
That’s a culture of misogyny that they were steeped in during formative years.
What a creep. Monitoring your wife really? I’m sorry but if I was her I would be kissed and deeply upset to know that he is monitoring my ins and outs and watching my every step. Sounds like he doesn’t trust her and also is trying to control her.
Only time I think it is ok is if you think they are cheating. But I think that would’ve come up. He’s clearly grasping at straws
I get the impression if he had concrete proof of her cheating it would be stated directly
That way, he has plausible deniability if the insinuations backfire. “I never SAID she cheated on me,” etc.
what’s weirdest is: she’s been away from home for work for the Summer so does this mean he decided to go back through old arhcived ring footage looking for something she said/did before she left for to start filming and it was so shocking he had to file? The timing is sus
I bet there is NO ring camera incident at all. This is about making people speculate and think the worst of her according to their own prejudices. It is simply another tactic in a smear campaign.
He is clearly putting this stuff out there and I believe none of it.
One thing I learned from observing others, never, ever marry someone who you would not also want to divorce (meaning, they are decent to people in disagreements and not scorched earth in other dealings).
“ One thing I learned from observing others, never, ever marry someone who you would not also want to divorce (meaning, they are decent to people in disagreements and not scorched earth in other dealings).”
J, I have never heard this before, but this is excellent advice!
@J That is amazing advice!
I don’t know how people like that could be loving and trustworthy in the first place. Joe and anyone else who acts like this come off like they would controlling, unsympathetic and untrustworthy during the actual relationship. I think a lot of male celebrities (Johan Hill, Manginello, Pitt, this guy) lately have had particularly malicious PR and lawyers and they really want to brainwash everyday women that smear campaigns and making demands that completely run a woman’s life into the ground (get married, have a baby, don’t go out, don’t dress that way, stay home with the baby, have another baby, don’t work, don’t spend money on that, don’t tell ME what to do- I’m the man) is a normal way to treat women and it’s not. It’s extremely abusive and it creates a prison-like atmosphere.
By the way Joe Jonas didn’t make himself look any better when he said he wanted more kids. He was just complaining about caring for the ones he already has. Alot of this slander said about Sophie (and the one female celebs recently put in her position) either didn’t happen or it’s a big exaggeration. Again Joe J. is making himself look bad to the point of being malicious.
I also think there are PR people who are into being super nasty and managers, friends, etc. who are trying to curry favor with the celeb convince them that these smears are necessary. There’s a lot of anger and vulnerability in a divorce. People either have friends and family who calm them down or ones who help escalate the problems.
Everybody Knows by Jordan Harper is a great mystery novel set at a black bag PR firm.
I always felt like someday the Joe Jonas will come out of the closet and say he was forced into projecting the happy family image to keep the career going. And that he picked much younger women who had stars in their eyes for being “ picked” and didn’t realize his head wasn’t in it.
She should thank her lucky stars that she is getting out of that marriage. He seems butt hurt that he cannot control her. Pathetic little man.
Joe’s a manipulative & insecure creep & I don’t believe for a minute that he was burdened with all the responsibilities for child care. He toured. He has household/childcare help. He certainly wasn’t doing feedings or changing diaps without substantial assistance, if at all. Are we supposed to believe that he dragged the tots around from one venue to the next while performing? Nah. I don’t buy it.
Sophie should take the babes & head for the UK.
I get the feeling Joe wouldn’t agree for her to take the kids with her to England while she was filming. Now he’s trying to use that against her by implying he’s had to take care of the children while she’s running around partying. God, I hate a-holes like him.
Going through some UK forums, she has been seen with her kids in the UK over the summer.
So he’s lying about that too. The kids have been visiting her on set.
We’re all going to start living our lives as if we’re always on camera. Because we are. Last week I was at my niece’s minding the animals while they were in Chicago for a wedding. At one point, I got a text saying, “I didn’t see you take the dogs out!” LOL! You need a camera in back!
In the hands of an abusive spouse, this technology is truly dangerous.
I’ve been trying to get this into my son’s brain so it becomes second nature— I’ve told him to ALWAYS assume he’s on camera, because it’s usually true. He’s not a bad kid or anything, but I want him to grow up being aware of how just pervasive they are, even inside people’s houses.
It’s a really gross way to have to live, but it’s how I act now, too, every time I step out the door. It’s just our reality at this point.
This is not the flex he thinks it is. It just makes him look abusive and controlling.
So agree. Creepy and controlling. Ick!
I bet he filed in Florida because DeSantis just signed a law banning forever spousal support. He doesn’t want to pay support, which is also why he’s attempting to say she’s an unfit mother. This whole thing comes down to cash. He’s a sucker, alright.
Are you even sure that he’s worth more? And their marriage was too short for either of them to be awarded spousal support for very long. I think he filed in Florida because there is a high probability of getting a fascist judge who won’t like a foreigner trying to take her kids to her home country.
What a POS this guy is.
Unrelated to their split but I just noticed in most of their red carpet photos, Joe rarely smiles. He’s making this weird face as if he’s trying to be alluring or something.
I don’t know if that was his team’s idea or his. Either way he looks pretentious and stupid.
Toolbag.
He has done commercials for botox. Has to make sure he markets the frozen face to keep the contract. lol.
I was also just thinking that I have never seen a picture of either of them smiling and looking genuinely happy. He looks like he’s posing and she looks miserable.
I said the same thing on another post — he always looks like he’s simmering with rage under the surface. I want to wipe that arrogant, sullen look off his face.
I dont understand why celebrities are so busy trying to BLAME the other person in a breakup.
Why bother? Just move on.
It takes two to tango in good and bad times. A ring camera wont end a relationship- it just revealed that it was already over for either/both of them already.
And if it isnt working- then it isnt working. Its not always black-and-white somebody’s fault.
Admit that you no longer care and dont try to point fingers.
What a sad, sad little man. Perhaps he can find another star-struck 19 year old to become his next sister wife, since a grown ass woman is clearly too much for him.
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Maybe in social media people are supporting Sophie but on comment sections this headline really did it for people. You should see the yahoo comment section. So toxic!
I’m shocked people still use yahoo.
And I’m shocked that this story is about a ring camera! Someone on this site the other day said something along the lines of I call bullsh*t on this story for the simple fact that we’re supposed to believe his big ass mansion relies on a ring for security?!? 🤣🤣🤣
@Sandra Guarantee they are all over 65.
Unfortunately yahoo news has really blown up the last few years. It’s the one of the fastest growing news sites but they’re not always credible!
They attach articles from shady news or little known sites like radar or the blast or she knows etc..and churn out articles. These articles get thousands of comments.
They don’t verify any of the articles to check if the sources/article is credible but because yahoo is distributing them on their site people believe it to be true. They’ve spread a lot of misinformation about Meghan, the Biden’s, and other celebrities that way sadly.
Lol, I’m 66, but don’t bother with Yahoo. I’m either here, or on Twitter, etc. 🙂 I also didn’t know much about JJ, but he got a little shine spill over from Nick and his amazing wife, Priyanka and their little angel. I also love the song ‘Cake by the Ocean’. But now, I think he’s a horse’s ass and wish Sophie and their two children all the best in the world! What a jerk!
Guys, he’s been looking after his kids for THREE MONTHS! Obviously with no nannies, no help, no support, no resources. Three months! Where’s the sympathy for this poor hero??
So basically he was being a dad?
@KN – +1 there
Not totally over-the-top sarcasm, but funny enough that I’d like to see you keep going…
I hope you’re being sarcastic, lol! No help, seriously? Do you hear the words coming out of your mouth? If he had NO help, where are the girls when he’s onstage? Locked in a trunk? Strapped to his back? Of course he has help! Just as Sophie would have help if they were with her on set. Just as any working parent would (hopefully) have help. SMH
She is quiet. It means she is DONE. Also probably she has her ducks in a row. (Prenup, lawyer etc). He is protesting too much in my opinion. It didn’t work out. Move on. Shit happens.
Yeah – I think she’s already lawyered up and he got wind of it and made sure he filed before her.
Small Dick Energy is every way with him.
…he’s giving Sam Asghari’s vibes, isn’t he? The North remembers, Jonas bro…
Nobody has ever done something like that! I am losing my mind every time a guy expects a medal for something women have always been doing. Those are your kids Joe, take care of them!
As if you thought he couldn’t stoop any lower, he’s now staged pics of him out for lunch with his daughters.
Said daughters who have been seen maybe once (I seem to remember pics of their oldest in a buggy years ago, never the youngest), and he’s now happy to flaunt them for good PR?
Ironically they have their nanny with them, so the whole hands on raising my kids alone vibe immediately loses its impact.
This makes me wonder if Sophie wanted to keep their children’s life more private and he is giving the middle finger.
She has been vocal about keeping their children away from the media – so him setting up photo ops with them is so gross and a fuck you to her. He’s going hard with the involved father/absent mother narrative. I think this smear campaign is about how much access she’ll get to the children.
@ArtHistorian – He is CLEARLY mad at her and doing what he’s doing out of spite and a need for revenge. Which makes me think she was going to surprise him with divorce papers.
Trash move. He ate at an outside table, too, where randoms were able to film him and the kids. He is exposing himself as a desperate insecure user. And this Ring camera claim? Uh, she did something, no she said something and I had no choice but to divorce her. Lame. He is working overtime at the blameless narrative and it’s only propping Sophie up more. It’s truly stupid for him to trash Sophie when his fan base is all women Sophie’s age.
‘I had no choice but to divorce her.’ this comment from him makes me thing he overheard her talking about divorcing him so he moved fast to beat her to it. The rest is him being spiteful and vengeful.
I’m thinking HE is the one that did something and is trying to pile on Sophie to get ahead of it. He is really a horrible little man now isn’t he?
Someone posted somewhere else, that it’s interesting that famous wealthy celebrities use the same Ring systems we plebes do instead of expensive top of the line security systems. Or perhaps his team is not thinking the stories through.
It’s disgusting that he leaks that he heard or saw something, but won’t say what it is, so people can speculate all they want and come up with their own reasons that would seem to them to make his behavior justifiable.
I wonder if all this smearing is because he knows she will want to take the girls to UK, so he’s smearing her as a mother to gain favor in a custody battle. I also think his family probably has a lot to do with all this.
He’s trash.
That is what I think.
The children have dual citizenship and neither of them are old enough to be attached to the LA area so there wouldn’t be any harm in moving the children.
I’m sure some of our Bitchy legal eagles could shed some light on whether Sophie would have a good chance at being allowed to move the kids to the UK.
If the kids were born in the US, I don’t think any judge in any state will let her move her kids to another country without consent from both parties. It’s also very difficult to move to another state or even county if your ex says no.
His family sounds like the Jacksons–clannish, close-minded, “everything for family” covering up a lot of stuff. I’m betting Moms is the real puppet master here…
I can think of a lot of circumstances where seeing certain behaviors from your spouse on a ring camera can justifiably lead to divorce.
But the fact that he won’t say what it is but dangles it in the public mysteriously is the act of a douchebag so I am not convinced.
That’s the part I don’t understand. Either tell us everything or tell us nothing ! I guess we’ll never know what was on that ring camera, just like we’ll never hear the audio from the Beyonce/Jay Z/Solange elevator ride lol.
Is this the Brad Pitt “no IM divorcing YOU!” strategy already? I have not heard a word from Sophie or her PR other than to ask for privacy, but this dude is out here planting narrative after narrative for why he’s the dumper, not the dumped. Nobody cares. Not even Sophie. Take your bruised ego to therapy before you mess up your children.
She probably got recorded making fun of him to a friend and he responded by pitching this media tantrum. Because he seems that small.
Man. This same old shit. My dad cheated on my mom multiple times. They separated and she started seeing someone else. He had a PI follow her and get proof that she was seeing someone else. Then, he threatened her with the UCMJ if she didn’t give him custody. He also told all of their mutual friends my mom was partying so they would testify against her. One has even recently apologized to her face because he finally saw what my dad was capable of. I don’t trust anyone that is hollering this much.
I saw some comments elsewhere speculating that Joe was putting out this particular BS story not only to continue to smear Sophie, but also as an attempt to change search algorithms, so that this story is what would pop up if you look up his name and “ring”, instead of his cringey wedding ring fiasco. William’s people attempted to do the same thing when rumors of his affair were going viral on Twitter: that was when they really started pushing his “housing the homeless” initiative and tried to change the algorithm, so that if you were attempting to search “Prince William affair”, “Prince William affordable housing” would pop up instead.
He is a liar: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/sophie-turner-homebody-interview-joe-jonas-divorce
Good riddance if he is going to be that guy who drags his wife through the mud. And he’s suddenly being papped out with his kids? Gross. Don’t use your children for your image.
As I recall, he was the drug addicted, hard partying one in the 2000s. His family had to stage an intervention.
Was he going thru Ring Camera footage to erase something HE had done?
(I don’t have one so I don’t know if this can happen)
Well, now, THAT is an interesting question.
I posted about this above. it IS weird that she’s been filming in the UK for 3 months but he recently found something in l what would have to be old ring footage that led him to immediately file for divorce?
she probably said, “my husband thinks i’m just a baby machine and actually i’m done putting my career on hold for his.” most favorable truth from this: they have different life goals now and divorcing. most probably: JJ is a mean lean cheating machine and this is aggressive spin on the divorce from his side to get the narrative on his side in advance. i dont buy the fact he decided to be a family man and became so wholesome and Sophie is the problem…
Why is this giving me a Pitt/Jolie vibe? I remember that at the time they created the same narrative to victimize Pitt.
Maybe Joe did something wrong and if there is something against Sophia, they will use it to threaten her.
Poor girl!! Poor children!!
I hate these narcissistic men.
I have no opinion other than to say I had to google “what is a ring camera” after reading all these comments because I thought it was a camera hidden in a ring (wedding ring, engagement ring, or just a nice ring) that had a hidden camera. So now I know it’s some kind of security system, like a doorbell camera type thing. When I was away someone came onto my patio, uprooted one of my grasses from it’s large, terracotta coloured, plastic planter and stole the planter. They had the decency (I guess) to lay my decorative grass on top of my vegetable planter so not ALL the roots died immediately, but by the time I got back, the poor thing was ready for compost, not revival. And all my veggies were dead too. Kind of wished I’d had a camera for that, but probably better I don’t know. My neighbour recently put up a sign saying “smile, you’re on camera” because we’ve a rash of people w/dogs who are not picking up after them. I waved towards the house/camera (w/poo bag in hand cause other hand was dealing w/leashed dog) and apparently made him laugh cause he came out and we had a lovely chat. We introduced ourselves and are now two neighbours looking out for each other. He said something that startled me a little: apparently MANY people now have cameras recording everyone’s comings and goings, which surprised me. I thought it was something wealthy people did as security. So all my neighbours can now see my butt as I pick up after my own dog, and quite possible hear my grumblings as I pick up after other peoples’ dogs! LOL…if they have sound, better not listen when their children are around!!!!
I doubt he does much to care for his daughters other than hire a nanny and occasionally pop in to play “cool dad”. The story that he’s a stay at home kind of guy is so fake. This tiktok shared on reddit talks about how he was seen out partying 2 days before the TMZ story dropped : https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/16bv74n/podcasters_relay_story_of_joe_jonas_out_partying/?rdt=36912
It’s nice that people are savvy enough to see this “insider” commentary for what it is, an orchestrated smear campaign. If a celeb relationship goes from unusually locked-down to full disclosure, look for an agenda. I mean we didn’t even know the name of their second child and now we know all this? SMH.
The fight back from Sophie has begun – TMZ is reporting that she was struggling after the birth of their 2nd child and he wasn’t supportive, pressuring her to attend events saying she needed to get out more.
Yeah – now we know why he’s soo desperate to get it out there that she’s a bad mother and he’s been looking after the kids all by himself. He’s the selfish one who is desperate to be seen as the family man – this is going to get really ugly as its clear he wants full custody.
I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. Maybe he heard her plotting her and the kids escape from him and he lost his mind. Men: If you want someone to be a SAHM, there are many women out there who are want to do that. Don’t seek out someone who has a career so you can break/ mold them into what you want. Also marry people who are in the same place that you are in life.
@Mel that would require a level of awareness for Joe to date people closer to his own age. By her own admission she felt lost when GOT ended and said she was lucky to have Joe. If I had been Joe I would have ended it right then because of her lack of maturity, direction and life experience. I don’t want to be anyone’s fall back girl and I think Joe was a nice way to feel she had big plans happening in her life. Joe knew this and pushed for marriage and kids asap. Look at how he is dealing with the divorce. He seems all in or all out kinda guy that won’t even let her breath long enough to see if she wants out and maybe she just needed a break. I think that’s why he blindsided her and twisting reality. Using a woman’s kids against her with no evidence is a horrible look. I remember he went through his own crisis after Jonas Brothers kinda went and did their own thing separately and One Direction took their spot. I remember people were worried about him. He is self projecting that on to Sophie. Now she is cheating, abandoned her kids or is kidnapping them to the UK, would rather party. He cant fit it into his head that she might just want to have a career or is just over him (it has to be the kids and him save face).
Clearly, she did not “respect” his “boundaries”
I just don’t see why the Jonas Brothers are popular.
Screw Joe for such an obvious PR spin
I completely second that emotion
Here’s the thing I don’t know why the Jonai are a thing, I’ve never listened to their music, ok. Same with Taylor Swift, never listened to her music. But I enjoy reading about her and I like seeing her clothes kinda the way Aretha Franklin admired her wardrobe 😉😁. But I’ve been following this Jonas/Games of Thrones actor story, never watched GOT and how did some purity ring performer end up with Sophie, the mind boggles. This is all to say I was reading a comment thread on Lainey and someone mentioned The Monologue Song courtesy of Taylor Swift.on SNL. I pulled it up and it’s hilarious! So I went to JJ’s Instagram and comments on the divorce announcement are blocked so I scrolled down to the b/w pic of Joe wearing his wedding ring and entered a “Hey Joe just listened to Taylor Swift’s the Monologue Song . . . “. Followed by laughing emojis. Course there’s 7,000 some comments but still. I wish Sophie and the kids well and a lethal lawyer.
He got with Sophie when she was 19! And she was a fan.
Until this gross smear campaign against Sophie by JJ’s PR reps, I’d almost forgotten all the schmucky PR from The Jonas bros past. They actually seemed like they got their act together personally & professionally. Now I’m remembering all the cringey PR bungle f-ups… Way to go Team Jonas. 🤦🏻♀️
He probably filed for divorce in Florida, because we just passed two laws here – one of them makes alimony next to impossible for a marriage of their duration. The second piece of legislation made 50-50 time sharing the presumption
I am waiting for more information. Both shit people to me. Maybe or maybe not the ring cam reveals something. He’s a dick (maybe) and she well might be a homebody or not. We shall keep guessing.
I think it also seems likely that he called the paparazzi and gave them a heads up that he would be eating breakfast with his kids in Los Angeles this past weekend so that pictures would be taken of it. And they are outside and he seemed over the top fake and animated trying to let the paparazzi get some good shots. It’s funny though because even in a photo shoot that he probably planned ahead of time as part of his smear campaign (trying to show he’s such a good dad taking his kids out for breakfast while their mom is overseas partying or whatever) he still has the kids nanny with them. He can’t handle bringing the kids to breakfast alone even for a planned photo shoot. So I have to roll my eyes about this whole he’s watching the kids solo thing, he probably has multiple nannies helping him obviously since he’s touring.
We have a ring doorbell. My husband has the app and loves looking at the footage.
That’s doesn’t mean that he’s monitoring my movements.
I have no idea what JJ says he’s seen, but looking at the footage does not make him a controlling husband.
Everything else is for sure making him look like a d*ck, though.