Grimes sues Elon Musk over parental rights to their three children

We really don’t know much about the Elon Musk/Grimes situation other than they have three kids together and that two were born via surrogacy. Their second child, a daughter nicknamed Y, was born around the same time that Neurolink exec Shivon Zilis gave birth to another set of Elno’s (not a typo!) twins. From what we can gather via social media, the first time Grimes (government name: Claire Boucher) saw Zilis’ twins was when biographer Walter Isaacson shared pictures of them. This prompted her to post publicly, “Tell Shivon to unblock me and tell Elon to let me see my son or plz respond to my lawyer. I have never even been allowed to see a photo of these children until this moment, despite the situation utterly ripping my family apart.”

YIKES. Eventually, Grimes and Zilis had some girl talk over the phone and decided to let their kids grow up together. You’d think all was well in paradise, no? Well, apparently not! It looks like the Elon Musk/Grimes stuff may get messier. In light of Grimes’ allegations that she wasn’t allowed to see at least one of her own children with Space Karen, she filed a “petition to establish parental relationship” against him in a California court last week.

Elon Musk is being sued by ex Grimes over parental rights of their three children.

Grimes filed a “petition to establish parental relationship” on Sept. 29 in a California court, according to court records obtained by Page Six on Tuesday.

The request asks the court to identify the legal parents of a child when they are not married.

The billionaire, 52, and “Oblivion” singer, 35, are parents of three children. Their first son, X Æ A-Xii, arrived in May 2020. In December 2021, they quietly welcomed daughter Exa Dark Sideræl via surrogate.

It was only confirmed in September that the pair secretly had a third child, a boy named Techno Mechanicus, whom they call Tau. The news was revealed in journalist Walter Isaacson’s “Elon Musk” biography.

[From NY Post]

I did a little bit of research and learned that a “petition to establish parental relationship” is a common legal procedure for couples who are not married. It’s a first step in deciding important issues such as custodial rights and child support. (Family lawyers or paralegals, feel free to weigh in here.) The court filings are private, so we don’t know all of the details, but I’m guessing that Grimes is currently still in her “I’ve had enough of Elon’s bulls–t” phase and wants to set up formal custody and child support arrangements to make sure she has a legal right to see her children. I think this is where it’s going to start to get really interesting, especially if Apartheid Clyde continues to play games with letting Grimes see their kids. Disclosure in a custody and (especially) a child support battle could reveal a lot more than either party want us to know.

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  1. MrsFonzieFace says:

    These poor children though, my god. That’s a whole lot of therapy ahead.

    • Is that so? says:

      “In a tweet shared in January, Musk reiterated his warning of a population collapse, saying, “Population collapse is a major risk to the future of civilization.” He also shared a link to World Bank data, which showed that the world’s fertility rate was at its lowest since the 1960s. ”

      I doubt he’s worried about the birth rate of non-white people.

      Elon Musk has almost a dozen kids, by the best count.
      Musk, like a lot of white supremacists, thinks that there are not enough white children being born, comparative to non-white children, and those with funds are doing their part to make up for the gap.

      When William thePeg father of three, lectures African, which is a much bigger continent than Europe and most others, that too many children being born, that comes out of that same mindset.

      The Duggers, 99 kids and counting, are part of the “quiverfull movement”. Again, a group dedicated to increasing the white population.

      The anti-abortion laws that are being passed, resulting in a woman’s loss of autonomy comes out of that same mindset.

      I’m not saying that all of these movements are related, what I am saying is that they are all related to white supremacy and white fear of replacement (replacement theory) and white supremacist belief that God gave them the Earth and the fullness there off and there is no reason for them to share it. Consequently, they’re going to make sure that they are the only ones that inherit the earth.

      Of course, this is ironic, because every time God made a covenant I somehow I doubt he was talking about Europeans and their descendants. This is not to say that Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Baha’i and the other Abraham religions aren’t for everyone, all I’m saying is that Europeans and their far-flung descendants have a way of centering themselves in the cultures They have appropriated and erasing the originals. #TheCrusades for a starter.

      • Fabiola says:

        Nick cannon has a lot of kids. How do you explain that? If people that have the means to support their kids want to have kids then I don’t see the issue. It’s people that are too poor and aren’t able to feed the children they bring into this world that should not have them.

      • JustBitchy says:

        Is that so- my god your insights opened my eyes. You are correct on all counts.

      • Duo says:

        He absorbed those beliefs from his father who recently came out and said he was willing to have more kids at 77 with a woman under 35. Ugh.

      • Is that so? says:

        @Fabiola says: just because two people are buying eggs at the same supermarket doesn’t mean they’re both making cakes.

        I don’t know what’s up with Nick Cannon, or his desire to replicate himself ad nauseam. While he seems to like fathering children, at best I can figure out he’s not spending a lot of time parenting them, but that’s him.

        None of the ideas I put forward are original. Even tying them together it’s not that original. You can look up the quiverfull movement. It is generally white, biblical (a specific interpretation of the Bible I suppose) patriarchal, and on some level of worried about white replacement. They don’t actually say that, nor as best as I understand it, do they carry tiki torches, but it is their responsibility to have as many children as possible. They avoid birth control and just keep reproducing until the women run out of eggs I guess.

        MUSK often sites his concern about population decline. And while he won’t specifically say, white population decline, well, maybe he does, it’s clear he wants to create a world of what he thinks it’s the best people, his progenies. The way in which he has seemed to treat Grimes makes it seems as if he feels her importance in the reproductive process is similar to that of a Gilead handmaiden.

        The regressive pillars of patriarchy, who have limited abortion, are working to limit access to birth control, and trying to figure out how they can keep control of women outside of their borders, who want bodily autonomy is all a part off that biblical white replacement propaganda.

        While these groups might not overtly, share the same theories and philosophies, their end goal is the same — make sure people of European descent inherit the Earth and our masters off it.

        If you look at what is being proposed by some of the confederate states legislature, it seems as if we all have landed, smack in the middle off New Gilead. They are advocating for a patriarchal, Christian state, and yet so many of them are being arrested for child pornography. They’re going to get rid of that, but I pretty much outlawing childhood. Without childhood there can’t be pedophilia.

        Look at how some confederate states have a lowered the legitimate working age for children, even in incredibly dangerous work environment. Sinclair Lewis must be doing jumping jacks in his grave.

      • Is that so? says:


        The Duggers aren’t Quiverfull, but instead are a part of the Christian Patriarchy Movement, it’s a difference without distinction.

  2. Naye In VA says:

    As a mother this has to hurt so so bad. But also, I don’t think I realized that they have birth via surrogate. Which is wild when she always said their relationship was fluid? Not a relationship? Idk I feel like she did some really really stupid sh** with a f**kboi and now, the obvious is happening. Good luck fighting a billionaire in court. I hope she at least gets to see them

  3. Rainbow Kitty says:

    She wasn’t allowed to see the baby as in Elon had physical custody of him and wasn’t allowing her? Which is illegal right? All of this feels so gross and wrong because there are literal babies involved. I feel for the kids and the kids only in this situation.
    As a mother I would like to feel for Grimes, but it’s hard because she knew who he was. Even if she didn’t 100% know what an awful person he is, she would have learned real quick after baby 1. She then goes on to have 2 more with him.
    Only feel for the kids.

  4. Sasha says:

    I’m so confused. Is this Grimes’ baby that Elon is blocking her from seeing?

    • SarahCS says:

      That’s how I’m reading it. He also had twins with someone else at the same time but that’s a separate thread to the story. He and Grimes had two babies via surrogate and its one of those.

    • Tisme says:

      @sasha…I’m confused too. It read like Grimes had never seen the twins but then indicated that she isn’t allowed to see her first born? I don’t get it.

    • Chloe says:

      I believe she’s said she didn’t know about the twins at first and then wasn’t allowed to see them. In a separate issue, she is also alleging that Elon isn’t letting her see at least one of her sons but she hasn’t said which one.

      • McGee says:

        I suspect that the 3rd baby was created from Grimes’ and Musk’s stored embryo but implanted into the surrogate without Grimes’ foreknowledge.

    • Megan says:

      I sounds like Musk is treating her as an egg donor for their third child.

    • Fabiola says:

      Why is she complaining about seeing the other woman’s kids in that picture? She should just focus on seeing her kids. Why don’t they live with her? Did she sell Elon eggs?

  5. Amy T says:

    Team Kids. They did not win the parent lottery….

    A question for the legal experts out here: Any chance the court appoints a guardian ad litum? And if so, how might that affect the outcome?

    • Katya says:

      Sure. It has to be requested or the court can move to Order it on their own Motion. Next step is a custody evaluation. It’s more likely the court will wait for the eval to be done and go with those recommenfdations. She should have filed a TRO as well to get visitation immediately.

      This is just the type of thing people opposed to surrogacy are talking about. It would be so on brand for Musk to only steal the boy.

  6. ML says:

    Did she know about the 3rd kid or did (h)Elno steal one of her eggs? This situation is a total disaster.

    • Abby says:

      This is what I am wondering.

    • SummerMoomin says:

      This is exactly what I’ve been wondering, they may have had frozen embryos left over from conceiving surrogate baby number one, and I would not put it past that F*ckboi to steal a few to have an extra child without telling Grimes he did so.

    • Lucy says:

      That’s exactly what it sounds like to me.

  7. LooneyTunes says:

    Kinda reminds me of Kim and Kanye. They show you who they are, but you then choose to have multiple children with a raging narcissist.

  8. Heylee says:

    Imagine the rage you would feel as a mother being denied access to your infant child! Wtf. Like he is taking care of the child, not. More like he has hired a person to do that. So a little baby is being taken care of (24/7) by hired help while the mother is denied access?! How is this not abuse?

    • Fabiola says:

      Why is he denying access to her son and is it only the third child? Are they other 2 with her. I hope she gets all her kids with her.

  9. Lulu says:

    I want to feel for a mom being alienated from her child but……Grimes is truly awful. She supports all his nonsense and once stated that Elon should raise the boys to teach them to be men. He hasn’t kept her daughter from her as I understand this mess. She played up to his Aryan, tradbabymama, nazi beliefs and now is a victim of them. Oh well.

    • Satish More says:


      I totally agree. Anyone who not only chooses to procreate with what i consider to be one of the most dangerous, out of touch, useless celebrities in the world, but someone as dumb as Musk? Who gets owned every time he opens his mouth? I would be EMBARRASSED to admit that I even hooked up w/ someone like Musk, let alone had a child w/him…..😬

  10. Chaine says:

    He’s been carting the three year old all over creation with him, obvs that’s the one in contention. Google “Elon Hungary son” and you’ll see a bunch of photos where he has this toddler looking bored as hell on his lap while Elon is meeting with the prime ministers of Hungary and Turkey in their countries. No life for a small child!

    I agree with everyone saying the girl is probably with Grimes and he probably doesn’t bother to see her.

  11. Ameerah M says:

    I would love to say I feel sorry for her…but I don’t. She continued to have babies with this meglomaniac because they BOTH buy into the white supremacist idea of replacement theory. Having babies for white supremacist ideologies is f-cked up. She wanted to be a Handmaiden. And now she’s being treated like one.

    • satish more says:


      100000%!!!!! The handmaiden comparison is spot on!!!!!!!!!

      • outoftheshadows says:

        She’s even dressed like one in the photo above. I remember when she was the next big obsession among the hipsters… how did she go so wrong?

    • Haylie says:

      Exactly. She was gushing over his anti-woke white supremacist ways so long as she wasn’t the target of his negativity. But now she’s a victim.

      Let someone blast them both into space so they can fail at life without the labor and support of people they look down on.

  12. Bumblebee says:

    This is a mother being kept from her child. The first time she even knew what he looked like was a picture of him in a book! She doesn’t know who is taking care of him, how he is being treated, where he is. I don’t care why she decided to have him or if she even did or what kind of person she is, no parent who loves their children deserves this. Have some compassion people.

    • Pointillist says:


    • Heylee says:

      I agree with you bumblebee. I’ve been reading this blog for 15 years and some of the comments on this post don’t track as belonging to true celebitches…

    • lunchcoma says:

      I feel a little sorry for her, but the kids whose pictures she saw in the media are not her kids. She has two separate complaints. One is that he’s keeping at least one of her children from seeing her.

      The other is that he had these twins with another woman, didn’t tell her about it, and that she hasn’t had the opportunity to introduce her children to their siblings. Those are the kids she’d never seen before she saw a public photo of them. This is a valid complaint! But it’s a slightly different one than never having seen her own child.

      • Arizona says:

        I’ll be honest, I don’t actually think it’s a valid complaint! I absolutely think half siblings should know each other and have the opportunity to be close, but her and Elon aren’t married, aren’t in a relationship, and the mom clearly didn’t want to involve Grimes (since she blocked her). she doesn’t have any rights to children that aren’t hers.

        which is a completely separate issue from her not being able to see her kid. although part of me wants to ask her why she kept having kids with him, if that was the case.

      • lunchcoma says:

        She was in a relationship with Elon when the twins were conceived and born! I don’t think Shivon should be compelled to interact with Grimes if she doesn’t want to, but it’s a very messy situation for a person in a relationship to arrange for children to be conceived without telling their partner, and I don’t blame Grimes for being generally aggrieved about the situation.

        My understanding is that Grimes’ second and third children were carried by a surrogate. She and Elon broke up while the second child was gestating. It was very foolish of her to combine genetic material with this guy at all, but I kind of get the vibe that she might not have consented to the third embryo being implanted.

    • EveV says:

      Grimes is talking about the twins Elno had with another woman when she makes the comment about it was her first time seeing them. Elno is keeping their first born from her.
      Everybody has compassion for the kids, but I feel (and others seem to, as well) Grimes should have seen something like this coming with what an ass Elno is. I hope she whoops his ass in court, though.

    • Ameerah M says:

      You don’t care that she chose to bring children into the world with a Nazi for the specific reasons of upholding white supremacy? Yikes.

    • Fabiola says:

      At the end of the day she is a mother and to not know the whereabouts of your own child is torture. The comments I read here are so cruel.

    • Jaded says:

      Grimes is in no way, shape or form a mature, responsible mother, nor should she have had kids with a monster like Musk. I quote her:

      Grimes has said she doesn’t identify with the title “mom” and she believes her son can sense her “distaste” for the word.

      “I think having a baby was a big rebirth for me, like, artistically,” she said in the video, per People. “Being a mother feels weird to say. For some reason I don’t identify with that word. Which is also really weird because X, he says ‘Claire,’ but he doesn’t say ‘mama’—which is so…I’m like, ‘How are you…?’ Like, maybe he can sense my distaste for the word mother.”

      Grimes added, “I don’t even know why I have a distaste for [the word] because I respect…I just, I don’t, I can’t identify with it, weirdly.”

      This woman should never have had children, period.

    • Haylie says:


      White nationalist mommies and daddies can fend for themselves. Done ever ask me to use energy feeling compassion for replacement theory preachers.

  13. Satish More says:

    Grimes gets no sympathy from me. She KEPT having kids with him, even after he went full MAGA on Twitter. He did his damnedest to give Trump his platform back, and she STILL had MORE of his kids…….???

  14. J.Ferber says:

    Doesn’t Elon have like 15 children already? Why is he trying to re-populate the Earth? Hate this man.

    • BQM says:

      Because he thinks UNDERpopulation is the real problem.

    • eh uh says:

      He also has a kind of genetic narcissism. Shivon zilis said to isaac w that he really wants smart ppl to have kids (without any irony or self-consciousness from her or elon apparently hahaha). These ppl have technical skills but not much perspective on human civilisation, history, humanism, etc. They literally can’t seem to grasp subtleties or normative stuff. It’s all just instrumental outcomes. Aside, crying for the pigs, monkeys, etc they’re using at neuralink.

  15. Houlihan says:

    I can’t put my finger on why, but this is giving me “Elon engaged a surrogate using Grimes’s and his embryos because he wanted another boy to “train” (his words!) as his successor, and Grimes didn’t find out until the kid was a done deal” vibes.

    Like he went through IVF with another woman who was pregnant with twins while in a committed relation and coparenting with Grimes without telling her. So Elon is exactly the kind of entitled douchemonkey to do that without her consent, keep it a secret, and refuse to let her see her own kid.

    • Icy says:

      I can’t figure out what clinic would have done a surrogacy IVF without her consent. Consent and co-ownership of embryos is HUGE in the IVF world. Unless they went to a shady as all get out ivf clinic she had to have consented to the implantation whatever happened next. Unless they shipped the embryos out of the country. Eastern europe is a hotbed of shady gc practices.

    • Eh Uh says:

      She had to have consented; she’s still got a girl crush on Elon and thinks he’s going to save the world. Breeding with him gives her self-affirmation. They’re such a bunch of weirdos, including Shivon Zilis, who is half-Indian by the way, so I don’t think Elon is actually that much of a white supremacist unless there’s some original Aryans thing going on.

  16. Lauren says:

    The first two paragraphs are unclear and confusing. Can we get a better-written update?