The NY Times published a column asserting that Taylor Swift is a closeted gay woman

Several days ago, the New York Times published a guest column by editor Anna Marks. The op-ed? “Look What We Made Taylor Swift Do.” It is an overwrought and bonkers piece about how Taylor Swift is not only a queer woman but that her relationships with men are all a lie and she has a responsibility to come out of the closet. Let me be clear: I also believe that Taylor has left enough bread crumbs – in the form of Easter eggs within her albums, lyrics, dates, photos, etc – to indicate that she’s probably bisexual. I also think that she went through a queerbaiting phase, where she was really trying to promote herself as especially “aligned” with the LGBTQ+ community to sell an album (although she said clearly, at the time, in Vogue interview that she’s not PART of the LGBTQ community).

We’ve openly discussed all of that on this blog, and many of other Swift-fans and Swift-watchers have analyzed all of this online for years. It’s speculation, and given the fact that Taylor Swift has an enormous, global fanbase who pore over every single thing she does and says, of course people are going to wonder about all of those Easter eggs and bread crumbs. “Speculating on the internet” is not the same thing as a New York Times columnist publishing an op-ed full of assertions that Taylor is living a lie, that she’s a closeted queer woman who feels that she must remain in the closet to keep her fans. Anna Marks really crossed a line, and Taylor and her team are really pissed off.

A controversial New York Times opinion piece that openly speculated this week whether Taylor Swift is a closeted queer person has drawn the ire of the pop superstar’s associates, CNN has learned.

“Because of her massive success, in this moment there is a Taylor-shaped hole in people’s ethics,” a person close to the situation, who requested anonymity to speak candidly, told CNN. “This article wouldn’t have been allowed to be written about Shawn Mendes or any male artist whose sexuality has been questioned by fans. There seems to be no boundary some journalists won’t cross when writing about Taylor, regardless of how invasive, untrue, and inappropriate it is – all under the protective veil of an ‘opinion piece,’” the person added.

In the 5,000-word piece, written in The Times’ opinion section, editor Anna Marks strung together a long list of LGBTQ references — some overt, some perceived — Swift has weaved into her songs and performances. Marks suggested that Swift had, perhaps, for years been trying to signal that she identifies with the queer community.

“In isolation, a single dropped hairpin is perhaps meaningless or accidental, but considered together, they’re the unfurling of a ballerina bun after a long performance,” Marks wrote. “Those dropped hairpins began to appear in Ms. Swift’s artistry long before queer identity was undeniably marketable to mainstream America. They suggest to queer people that she is one of us.”

Swift has in the past embraced the LGBTQ community, taking stands in support of her fans amid a record number of anti-gay bills introduced around the country, calling her concerts a “safe space” for LGBTQ people. But she has denied that she is a member of the LGBTQ community. In a 2019 interview with Vogue magazine, Swift said she has simply aimed to be a good ally to the LGBTQ community as their rights come under attack.

“Rights are being stripped from basically everyone who isn’t a straight white cisgender male,” Swift told the magazine. “I didn’t realize until recently that I could advocate for a community that I’m not a part of.”

Swift also wrote in the prologue to her re-recorded “1989” album, which was released last year, that she surrounded herself with female friends because society speculated incessantly about whether she was romantically involved with males she was publicly seen with.

“If I only hung out with my female friends, people couldn’t sensationalize or sexualize that — right? I would learn later on that people could and people would,” she wrote.

It is highly unusual for a reputable news organization like The Times to publish an article speculating on a person’s sexuality, let alone a figure of immense cultural significance who has previously denied the insinuations. Such pieces are widely considered to be inappropriate, and The Times received some criticism from readers for its decision to publish its piece on Swift.

[From CNN]

Yeah… here’s the thing, Taylor Swift could come out if she was, in fact, bisexual or gay. All of these assertions and suppositions are built on this false idea that Taylor Swift Is Too Famous To Be Out, when that’s not the case. The overwhelming majority of her fans would still obsessively follow her and buy everything she sells. It’s also galling because Taylor really has gone on the record about this several times, and she’s also made a point of calling herself an LGBTQ ally. She’s performed her allyship publicly for years and that alone is very important. Anyway, I’m sure Taylor’s comms guru is the unnamed “source” in CNN’s piece and Tree might need to go on the record to blast the Times.

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  1. Shawna says:

    Another example of conspiracy theories starting to gain credibility. Disappointing.

    • Arizona says:

      the fact that she has flat out said that she’s not a part of the community and has requested people stop assuming she’s in gay relationships with her female friends should be enough for any “fan”.

      most of the so called “bread crumbs” are incredibly reaching and require you to ignore what she has SAID the songs are about.

      I also think queerbaiting and doing some performative allyship are two different things. everyone gave her shit for not speaking out in alliance and then when she did, everyone said it was too much and just a cover for her being bi.

      imagine the reaction if someone wrote this piece about an openly gay musician claiming they were actually straight. deranged!

    • GrnieWnie says:

      And also somewhat misogynistic? As though a woman that successful can’t possibly be straight…she has to have some male characteristics on some level (she likes women just like men!)? Something about this stinks.

  2. Brassy Rebel says:

    Ikr? If she were gay or bi, she has no reason to hide it. She will continue to be Taylor Swift. The New York Times has been garbage for a while now.

    • Jensies says:

      So I agree that NYT shouldn’t have put this out there as assertions of fact. But I also think it’s naive at best to say that she has no reason to stay closeted, if being queer is truly her identity. Queer people are in danger every day in this country. We are openly discriminated against, told we don’t matter, beaten, killed.
      Taylor has a lot more power and security than most of us have, but she’d be more vulnerable too.
      There are still MANY closeted celebs, who are closeted for many reasons. IF Taylor is queer, and I do think there’s a good chance, I don’t blame her for not being open about it, esp in this country, at this point in our history.

      • TQ says:

        💯 agree with all of this @Jensies.

      • Lisa says:

        I think it is sick and dangerous to continuously assert someone is queer when they repeatedly said they aren’t yet here you are doing it under the guise of caring about the communities safety.

    • Lucy says:

      I’m not a Swiftie, one person I follow on insta is a Gaylor (and also a fantastic photographer, which is why I have followed her). She posted gaylor stuff for off and on, and I can see why someone would believe it and enjoy coming up with the conclusions. It’s entirely possible she’s bi, or some form of queer.

      What has been really telling is the complete ignoring of the note Taylor wrote, asking folks not to sexualize her female friendships. Then the openly dating a man who is an open book, as far as ability to hide feelings, and who isn’t in her industry so there usual story lines about bribes don’t work.

      The gaylor community seems to be melting down and refusing to accept what is happening. That’s the disturbing part. Also, the Gaylor photographer identifies as queer and has been in a relationship with a man for almost ten years, but is unable to accept that as a possibility for Taylor. It’s like watching QAnon folks scrambling for reasons why Q was right about everything. That’s what the whole OP Ed sounded like.

      • Mika says:

        Asserting Taylor Swift is gay, in the New York Times, because you have really fun internet chats about it is the left wing version of breaking into Comet Ping pong.

    • DK says:

      Even if she has no reason to hide it (though I agree with Jensies that there are always reasons people might choose not to disclose particular personal information about themselves, no matter how powerful they are), absolutely no one has any right to “out” someone else, for any reason, ever.

      So if that writer truly believes Taylor is gay, what a horrible, unethical, unprofessional, sh***y thing to do.

    • Fabiola says:

      I can’t believe such a horrible article was approved and published. She has said she is not gay but it is not right to try to expose people as gay. If someone is gay it’s their right to share it when they want to.

  3. Neners says:

    1) This is none of our business.
    2) You don’t get to decide someone’s sexuality
    3) It’s weird that it’s 2024 and people still care about this because…
    4) This is none of our business.

    • Megan says:

      Perfectly said. The Times has had some doozies in the past few years, but this is straight up unprofessional and inappropriate.

      • kirk says:

        At least NYT stuck this in Opinion section. Unlike Peter Schweizer’s ‘Clinton Cash’ sleaze they COMMISSIONED, and stuck in front section without fact checking.

    • Visa Diva says:

      All.of this *and* don’t speculate on anyone’s sexuality.

    • SarahCS says:

      Correct on all counts!

      Why can’t people let this go?

    • sunny says:

      100% This. The fact that the Times would publish this at all shows that they really continue to slide further into a pit. The bar is in hell.

      It is so strange to watch such a once respected publication’s slow dissent.

      Anyway, get em Tree Paine.

    • StellainNH says:

      Exactly!! To me, it doesn’t matter what a person’s sexuality is. I may enjoy their performance as an artist, their sexuality is not important to me.

    • bettyrose says:

      This exactly. What’s our business is that she has very public declared herself an ally. That’s our business because it’s part of her public persona and because as one of the most commercially successful artists in history it matters. She has also chosen to make her relationship with a cisman very public. That’s the image of herself she’s given us permission to discuss. The rest is not our business (and I personally dislike shipping female friends who haven’t come out because it’s smacks of the male gaze owning female sexuality).

    • Littlemissdaisy says:

      And yet assuming she’s straight isn’t the same at all?

      She asked that the press and fans not speculate if she’s dating BOTH male and female friends — you can reread the prologue — it’s right there.

      But okay go off

      Also if you read that bonkers email that was leaked recently of her Dad’s it’s really not surprising that she would be publicly closeted — the comments here are proof of the fact that the public cannot handle it even in the smallest sense 🫰🏻

      • Susie says:

        But no one is assuming she’s straight. She has repeatedly said outright on multiple occasions that she isn’t part of the queer community beyond her allyship.

        It is NOT an assumption to take someone at their word. It IS an assumption to claim that they are lying and point to subtextual clues as the “real” truth.

  4. Embee says:

    This article does more to highlight the misogyny successful women face than anything else. The NYT was already on questionable journalistic grounds and this further underscores their lack of integrity. Shameful.

    • Nicki says:

      +1. Also deeply creepy to care so much about someone else’s sexuality to spend 5,000 word on it.

      • Harper says:

        Really, the length is unhinged. Even the NYTimes copy editor whiffed here. I just kept scrolling and scrolling and it kept going on and on. It never had to be printed, but seeing that it was, it never had to be that long.

    • Kirsten says:

      This.

      • Justjj says:

        That was the kicker for me. A) Not okay at all to ever, for any reason, publicly speculate or out someone and B) 5,000 words??? What a stalker.

    • Josephine says:

      This is my take too. So many people are unhinged that she is extraordinarily successful, largely on her own terms. I’m not even a fan, but the hatred toward successful women is so obvious.

    • Alarmjaguar says:

      If I hadn’t already cancelled my subscription, I’d do it again (although I’ve said that a lot about the NYT over the past few years). They are utterly disappointing.

  5. aquarius64 says:

    This is the NY Times running this. The grande dame of journalism is now a tabloid guttersnipe.

    • Glamarazzi says:

      It’s disappointing to see what is supposed to be the flagship news source of our country debase themselves for clickbait, but they’ve been there for a while. This is certainly one of the most cringeworthy examples, but nothing new for them.

    • Slush says:

      Thats it right there. This “piece” is bad enough, but the fact that it was read, edited, and published on the NYT is, honestly, shocking to me. And thats saying something given some of the other BS they have put out recently.

    • WiththeAmerican says:

      They keep shocking with how low they will go. Now they’re 1/6 apologists too.

  6. Emily says:

    The entire Gaylor movement is so weird. I believe Taylor has profound female friendships. She is someone who romanticizes much of her life, including friendships. But if she says she is straight, then she is. Writing an entire article about Taylor’s sexuality is so unhinged.

    • Slush says:

      ITA here. I don’t think she is anything other than what she has told us she is.

      I think Taylor just feels very deeply, and that includes friendships, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

      There also nothing wrong with taking inspiration from one part of your life and making an unrelated song from it – that is literally how Dolly Parton wrote “Jolene.” Sometimes these “Easter Eggs” are just people looking too far into things.

  7. Ana Maria says:

    …might this be an attempt by the NYT to increase circulation/clicks?

    • bettyrose says:

      It’s definitely that, cashing in on Taylor’s fame, but that’s no excuse. They can’t corner the market on news reporting and analysis so they veer into straight up tabloid gossip instead? You know what the NYT still does better than anyone? Arts & Leisure. I’d be happy to advise them further.

  8. MsIam says:

    I’m shocked the Times allowed this, but the Times is becoming more right wing by the day. And right wingers have been coming after Taylor hard because she’s encouraging young women to vote. Some of the things they say about Taylor are horrible.

  9. EasternViolet says:

    I thought outing people was just a terrible thing to do. Shame on NYT. You don’t have to be a swiftie to know that coming out is a personal choice and should never be coerced.

  10. bitsycs says:

    I personally firmly believe everyone is on a spectrum of sexuality and some people are all the way to one side, some people are firmly in the middle and some are just at various spots along the spectrum.

    With that said, this is gross and weird of the NYT to publish. Taylor herself has pretty firmly said what she considers her sexuality to be and it’s really no one’s business but esp not the NYT.

  11. Karen says:

    Dear Taylor Swift’s team, leave Shawn Mendes’ name out of mouth! Don’t drag him into this mess. What you say the NYT is doing to Taylor, you are doing to Shawn Mendes by bringing his name into this mess.

    • Rainbow Kitty says:

      You do understand that, “a person close to the situation, who requested anonymity to speak candidly”, doesn’t exist right. No one close to TS or her team said this. This is made up.

      • take it on says:

        @Rainbow Kitty, are you naive or just pertulent, like some of those really toxic and immature swifities? A source is so clearly a celebrity’s PR person. I mean if this person doesn’t exist, who is so busybody and nosy to response to this NYT article in the first place?

    • OriginalLeigh says:

      💯 It was unethical for the NYT to publish that dumb op-ed about Taylor, but also really wrong for Taylor’s camp to name check Shawn…. And I don’t believe that CNN invented their anonymous source.

    • what says:

      Shawn made Himself part of the public record. He brought up the topic of the speculation over his sexuality himself in RS (I think?) and that is why it was discussed in that article. Major media has treated the rumors about him Very differently than they have the rumors about her. That’s the point, and it’s a valid one.

  12. Kateee says:

    This is appalling. I expect this from a Buzzfeed or a Barstool–they make money on clicks and have low journalistic standards. Fine. But from the NY Times? Absolutely shameful. I don’t give a fig if TS is the gayest gay on the planet, or if she lives in a closet of her own making, or if she is passing the kitty to every man she sees–good for her! Live your life! I care that an institution of journalistic integrity just destroyed its opinion board reputation so they could summarize a reddit thread. What?? 2024, you were supposed to be better than this.

    (And to be clear, I’m pretty disgusted for TS too. She doesn’t owe you her personal identity no matter what her public persona or art says. That’s like saying Kim K owes you sex because she gets naked for work sometimes. No.)

    Man, this really hit a nerve this morning.

  13. Digital Unicorn says:

    This is no one business but hers and yeah I agree that if she was she would come out as it was NOT affect her career in anyway – in fact it would very much benefit her image. Love her or loathe her she is clearly an ally for the community and always has been.

  14. Anonymous says:

    The New York Times have a history of targeting young women with sexist writings in a way they will never attack any man. Regarding Taylor, this is not even their first foray; I don’t specifically recall what they said a few years back in a multipage spread that drew some raised eyebrows. They also published a body shaming piece about Serena Williams, at a time when she was dominating women’s tennis. Regarding the at hand issue, unless we are dealing with an abject hypocrite, which Taylor is not, it should up to her whether she choses to disclose any information about her sexuality. It’s really, really sick that the NYT chose to do this.

  15. Tashiro says:

    Why even write this in the first place? It seems like this “journalist” has a grudge or something. More importantly why would the NYT give the go ahead and print it?

  16. Elo says:

    Yikes! This is appalling in so many different ways. I am simply stunned that the NYT published this.

    • Lady D says:

      Same. Wth were they thinking?

    • lucy2 says:

      I am too, they should be nothing but embarrassed by printing this.

      I’m not as shocked as I would have ben 10 years ago, they’ve been trash for a while now, but it still is pretty shocking anyone would publish that in 2024.

      I’m not a Taylor fan. I don’t listen to her music, and I’d like to go a day without seeing something about her or someone mentioning her. But this is so clearly an attempted take down of a woman who managed to achieve huge success, is unapologetic for it, and has started using her platform for political and social issues.

  17. VilleRose says:

    I’ve speculated about this with coworkers a few times, mostly because one of my coworkers (a woman) who is gay does believe in the conspiracy theory that Taylor dated Karlie Kloss and that she dated men as beards to cover that. But that’s office watercooler gossip, same as all the Reddit/Twitter/forums/blogs that speculate about this. We aren’t going around publishing our opinions as facts in a national publication and I have to wonder who the heck approved Anna Marks’ op-ed. At least she had the sense to not bring up Karlie Kloss though I could tell she was dying to. I did learn from the article that the expression “dropping a hairpin” apparently means to reveal one’s sexual orientation through broad hints so I did learn something new, I had never heard of that before.

  18. VilleRose says:

    Sorry accidental double post!

  19. Amy Bee says:

    As I said on another post, Taylor gets a lot of sh-t thrown at her because of her success. This may just be an article for the clicks but this is tantamount to trying to out her. For a supposed serious paper like the NYT to do this is just terrible and embarrassing.

  20. QuiteContrary says:

    I read the column and it was weird as hell. And it was written by an Opinion department editor, a woman who acknowledges the sexist undertones of so much of the coverage of Taylor Swift, then goes on a bender of speculation about whether Swift is “stuck in the shadowy, solitary recesses of the closet.”

    I agree that Taylor may be bi. But she doesn’t owe anyone a public coming out. Fans don’t get to own every piece of the celebrities they support.

  21. E says:

    It seems hypocritical to encourage fans to read easter eggs and then get mad when incorrect conclusions get drawn from the easter eggs. She seems to love to push the idea that she is one of a kind in success, but don’t you dare hold her to different standards than anyone else (eg shawn). Also if she was such an ally should she be so upset by the allegation?

    • Arizona says:

      I think it’s perfectly normal to be upset when people are insisting that you’re secretly dating your friends and that your romantic relationships are all actually a lie, regardless of allyship. that seems like a nonsensical argument.

      also, her Easter eggs are for stuff like “I’m going to announce this album next” or “I used lyrics from a new song in this speech” not “I’m secretly gay and in love with someone I don’t appear to have spoken to for five years!” she hasn’t even done the hints in the liner notes since Red came out in 2012. 🙄

      • MissM says:

        Exactly, the easter eggs are about her work, not her personal life. People are taking shit too far with Taylor. Deuxmoi did the same thing by obsessively stating that Taylor was secretly married to Joe Alwyn and You’re Losing Me is about her miscarrying his child. There’s literally zero evidence of any of that and the speculation, especially regarding a miscarriage, is gross.
        Also, Taylor specifically called out the Gaylor rumors by mentioning that she swore of dating to avoid rumors about her love life, and people still sexualized her friendships. I don’t know how many times she needs to deny this shit before people believe her. It’s reminding me of the Twilight fans, who to this day, still believe that Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are secretly married with kids and that she’s not really gay, it’s just a cover so they aren’t found out.

  22. Nikomikaelx says:

    Arent we past this.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      Perfectly said. This is an awful thing to print; something I would expect from the NY Post and most definitely NOT the NYT. I would bet that this “hit piece” is revenge for her DARING to encourage her fans base to register to vote. She should get a volunteer organization to register fans at every concert in the USA just to make sure the right wing melt down continues. 😂

  23. Miranda says:

    Besides being way, WAY out of line, the piece is just nonsensical. The fact that the Gaylor movement exists at all is pretty convincing evidence that TS would have nothing to lose if she wanted to come out as queer. These are diehard fans, most of them straight cis girls and women, who clutch at straws and interpret every little thing Taylor says or does as proof that she’s a lesbian, and CELEBRATE that fantasy.

  24. Lizzie Bathory says:

    Apparently this same writer did a similar piece about Harry Styles in 2022. She seems to have a particular obsession with “just asking questions” about (not outing anyone, you see!) successful pop stars who don’t seem straight enough, whatever that means. It’s creepy & inappropriate but I guess it gets her attention.

    • Miranda says:

      Ugh, I didn’t realize that it was some sort of schtick for the writer.

      I was recently catching up with a gay friend whom I’ve known since we were in middle school, and we were joking about how, after he first came out at 13, he went through a phase where he insisted that EVERYBODY was gay (not in a “sexual orientation/gender is a spectrum” way, but just to be a bit defiant or contrary). At the time, he didn’t realize the extent to which he was doing it, but he now has a gay 14-year-old nephew who’s doing the same thing. It’s obviously pretty common, but despite it being mildly irritating, it’s understandable and you humor them because they’re just kids who are still figuring out where they fit in.

      Anna Marks, however, should have outgrown this crap long before now.

    • jo says:

      Here’s that Harry Styles article, if you’re curious: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/27/opinion/harry-styles-identity.html

  25. Concern Fae says:

    Was this in the print edition or just in the online version? The NYT is becoming known for writing some crazy stuff online only, with people not realizing the difference.

  26. DeeSea says:

    Is the NYT following the same self-destruct playbook that Twitter has been using? Are they deliberately tanking their own business and reputation? Because no other explanation makes sense to me.

  27. Cee says:

    2024 and some people are still trying to push people out of the closet. Unbelieveable.
    IDK anything about Taylor’s sexuality other than it is none of my business.

  28. Harper says:

    So this writer confuses me. She starts out the article with something important to say about the state of being gay in the country music industry. Okay, let’s hear more about what is going on there for its gay artists. It sounds terrible and like it needs a brighter spotlight shone on it. Maybe a long opinion piece in someplace like the NYTimes could bring change?

    And then, a segue to Taylor Swift who is not in the country music sphere anymore, but who has used her right to freedom of expression and her massive platform to support a group that she feels is dangerously marginalized and create an inclusive atmosphere for all. But, somehow that support is not good enough if she won’t come out and say plainly that she is gay, even if she isn’t. Or even if she is and prefers not to say it. Is the writer that bothered that Taylor is all in with a hunky NFL player that she has to be called out for something now, in 2024? I don’t get it.

    My daughter is a Swiftie. I know more than I ever thought I would about the Karlie Kloss friendship that went bust and nowhere did I ever hear that her fans were going to drop her if it were truly a gay love affair. It was okay; it is just love. It still is. And I was there to see Taylor sing Hits Different and there was no obvious declaration of her gayness that swept through Soldier Field that night. Sometimes a song-ending woohoo is just a song-ending woohoo. She had just swallowed a bug beforehand. Someone needed to rein in this writer because this opinion article is an embarrasing mess.

  29. Rnot says:

    This was written by an editor?!? This is a person that the Times has chosen to employ in a position that requires good judgement and discretion. How many people had to approve this content before publication?

  30. Izzy says:

    What a revolting piece. I just went in and cancelled my subscription. I can’t support a rag that publishes garbage like this.

  31. Tessa says:

    As someone whose sexuality has been questioned several times throughout my life (I’m straight cis female but apparently give bi/lesbian), I can say that insisting that you’re straight results in comments like “you wouldn’t protest so much if you really are, sweetie.” 🤦🏼‍♀️ So, I don’t think Tree making a statement is either necessary or would even be helpful here. And I don’t think Taylor cares anyway. I think she’s finally at a place where she doesn’t give a 💩 what people think about her anymore, which is wonderful. If people want to think she’s closeted gay or bi, they can think that. She’s living her best life. And I’m finally working on living mine. 💖

    • sevenblue says:

      Apparently, those Gaylors are now harassing Travis and his friends. They are creating rumours that Travis is Taylor’s beard and he is also gay. They are even targeting Travis’s (male) friends whom they think Travis is “actually” dating. I think, that’s why Taylor hit back to NYT. She was out of public view so long, Gaylors didn’t have much to work with. Now, she is in a public relationship, taking photos with her and Travis’s friends, they are using everything to prove their theories. It is all very sad.

  32. sevenblue says:

    Ok, a few thoughts:
    “This article wouldn’t have been allowed to be written about Shawn Mendes or any male artist whose sexuality has been questioned by fans.”
    I don’t understand why Taylor’s team went to this route. Apparently, the same weirdo writer also wrote a similar article on Harry Styles. Also, “closet” rumours almost always are about men. When the deranged fans ship two straight same-sex characters on a show, it is almost always men. There is also no need to drag Shawn Mendes into this, he shared very publicly how uncomfortable he was about people questioning his sexuality.

    I don’t know at what point in time, the press decided that outing people are ethical. If Taylor is bisexual or lesbian, she has the right not to share that. You can’t just out someone who isn’t ready. Also, if she is bi, why would that erase all her relationships with men? That’s the disturbing part. She was in 6-year relationship and these weirdos are saying it was all a lie.

    Imagine going to your coworker who has always dated men and saying to them, “I know, you are gay”. Then, they say no, you are insisting that it is okay, they should just tell the truth or you are gonna harass them till they do. This forcing-someone-out-of-closet using faux concern is bonkers, but as long as it gets the press clicks and not lawsuits, they are gonna keep doing it.

  33. Beech says:

    With all that’s going on in the world and this nation the NYT sees fit to publish an oped about Swift’s sexuality?

    • MY3CENTS says:

      This is so deranged and wtf out there I have only one explanation- this Anna editor person is an obsessed, transfixed fan, whose obsessive, and probably sexual fantasies of TS is leading her on this crusade in the hope that she will bring Taylor to her senses and realize Anna is her one true love, and they can live together happily ever after.

      • Eurydice says:

        I can come up with a lot of explanations for why someone would write a piece like this. But I can’t come up with an explanation for why the NYT would print it.

  34. KT says:

    If past history is anything to go on, this shit won’t stop until they get sued.

    That’s what happened with Robbie Williams over here. The tabloids were going on for years and years that he was gay and in the closet, that his best mate was secretly his boyfriend, and he laughed it off and joked around and laughed it off over and over.
    He straight up said ‘never fancied a man enough to do anything with one, if that changes I’ll let you know’.

    It got to the stage that Jake Shears from the Scissor sister made a snide off-hand comment about him being closeted in an interview and The Sun turned it into a front-page news story.
    And he still laughed it off.

    Then a tabloid printed a bunch of lies from a bloke who claimed he’d had sex with him in public toilets and by a canal, and said that he was lying to his fans, and Robbie finally cracked and sued. Of course he won – and got accused of being homophobic for suing, despite his years of tolerating the nonsense – and it finally stopped.

    He is now happily married with 4 kids.

  35. February pisces says:

    No one needs to define their sexuality to anyone. Also sexuality is fluid, we need to stop seeing it in black and white and putting labels on everything. Whatever consenting adults chose to do sexually is their own business and doesn’t need a public announcement.

  36. Sass says:

    This is completely unacceptable. Wildly unprofessional, a straight up homophobic hitpiece accusing someone of being gay like it’s a schoolyard insult and poorly disguised as concern trolling. Reckless, irresponsible, and honestly I hope Swift sues.

  37. ElleE says:

    A swifte was able to pull a guest column for the NYT? I know they’re trying to capture the zeitgeist but this obsessed fan piece is not reflective of our society or even of Taylor Swift.

  38. Kat says:

    Tree earning every penny she’s paid and then some.

    Who gives a hoot what sexual orientation Taylor is? No one who is worth a damn, that’s for sure.

  39. ohwell says:

    Journalism is in the sewers.

  40. Hiya says:

    It’s obviously wrong to try to out someone in the NYT: It’s extremely weird for the NYT to not know that. But also. It’s gaslighting to pretend that someone is delusional because they pick up on these (obvious to LGBT community) things. There are a lot of things queer women know and reference that straight ppl really aren’t going to pick up on. The colors of the bisexual flag, the colors of the lesbian flag, the association between lavender and lgbt resistance (Do straight ppl know what the lavender scare was?), lesbian visibility day, how the Stonewall riots occurred, etc., etc.

    So many ppl are saying that it’s safe to come out now– Yes, it’s safe if you only know democrats on the coasts. There is still deep homophobia across America. And, very importantly if you are someone who travels internationally, there is deep homophobia across the globe.

    Who knows what the real deal with TS is– Maybe she really went 1,000,000% in on her allyship. But some people test the waters on things, drop a comment or picture, and see how it flies. Maybe coming out feels more important some times than other times—Society at large seems particularly confused about bisexuality and sexual fluidity.

    The whole cultural response to this op-ed (All those lgbtq people are delusional. It’s safe to come out now. She’s dated so many guys–That wasn’t fake.) tells me that most ppl don’t know there is a separate queer culture, that most ppl don’t know the risks that LGBT ppl still face, and that bisexual erasure/invisibility is really in full force.

    • Howdy says:

      Thank you! Yes, Hiya!

    • Susie says:

      Ok but let’s say she really is gay but is hiding that makes this article even crueler. She obviously is uncomfortable being out so this would be the NYT is trying to force her when as you say it’s still dangerous being queer. And if this is all some plan to laying the groundwork to come out eventually then why not allow her to control the message on her own time line.
      And if it’s real Easter eggs Taylor has never been known to withhold her plans from her fans. When she plants a clue she usually reveals the answer within a few weeks or months at most. Leaving hints for her fans for YEARS while publicly denying it is the most un Taylor thing possible.

      At this moment everything about this conspiracy is subtextual. What we do know for a fact is she has said publicly on multiple occasions that she isn’t queer and she doesn’t appreciate the speculation about her sexuality. And even if the conspiracy was true this article isn’t gossip and speculation amongst Stans in the comments. This is an attempted outing and shaming by a major elite institution with a great deal of social capital and power and credibility. This is cruel

      • Hiya says:

        Yeah, as I said, it was wrong for the NYT to publish it. Full stop.

        As far as “real Easter eggs,” I don’t know that someone hinting at a deep, potentially uncomfortable truth (to them or their family) about their identity would treat it the same way as an album drop or whatever. I think there is a difference in the information artists leave for fans and things artists say as part of their artistic personal expression. Generally speaking.

        But I’m not really as interested in TS’s personal situation, as I am in the cultural response to the op-ed here and everywhere else: There is express erasure of bisexual people. Additionally, LGBTQ people are saying “Hey, all of these things are heavy words in our community. What’s going on here?” And straight people are saying “Those are just normal words. This is all a conspiracy. She dates guys! Anyway, it’s totally safe to come out now!” (Meanwhile, do straight ppl even know a pin drop isn’t the same thing as a hair pin drop?)

  41. Libra says:

    I’ve read Kaiser post 3 times and still don’t know who the heck is Tree?

  42. Thelma says:

    The New York Times has sunk so low. Cancelled my subscription. This was just the last straw. I found the article and the fact that it was actually published in 2024 sickening. Anyway, as my hubs said, what took you so long? He’s been wanting us to cancel the subscription for a while.

  43. Ariel says:

    And this is why The Guardian is my news source. WOW, NYT. Just wow.

  44. Spike says:

    Disgusting.

  45. Veronica S. says:

    They were gross to publish this, and it’s particularly gross given the political environment right now. I know a decent few lgbt+, myself included, who are pulling their information from medical records out of concern for what may come with 2024 and beyond. She’s a wealthy millionaire who could protect herself easily if she was actually a wlw, but not everybody is, and it’s a dangerous precedent to set speculating on people’s orientation.