Donald Trump can’t pay his $454 million fine & 30 bond companies turned him down

One month ago, Donald Trump was found liable for business fraud in New York. This case was mostly about Trump’s decades of overinflating and manipulating his net worth and the worth of his real estate empire. There was a mountain of evidence against him and it was a crushing defeat when the verdict came in. Even funnier is the fact that Trump was ordered to pay a penalty of $355 million, with significant interest accruing each day that he refuses to/cannot pay the fine. Currently, the fine is around $454 million, LMAO!!! Even more hysterical is that Trump has gone to thirty different bond companies and begged for help in paying off this fine. Every single one of those companies has turned him down. Now Trump is begging the court to “pause” the penalty.

Donald J. Trump’s lawyers disclosed on Monday that he had failed to secure a roughly half-billion dollar bond in his civil fraud case in New York, raising the prospect that the state could seek to freeze some of his bank accounts and seize some of his marquee properties. The court filing, coming one week before the bond is due, suggested that the former president might soon face a financial crisis unless an appeals court comes to his rescue.

Mr. Trump has asked the appeals court to pause the $454 million judgment that a New York judge imposed on Mr. Trump in the fraud case last month, or accept a bond of only $100 million. Otherwise, the New York attorney general’s office, which brought the case, might soon move to collect from Mr. Trump.

Still, even if the higher court rejects his appeal, Mr. Trump is not entirely out of options. He might appeal to the state’s highest court, quickly sell an asset or seek help from a wealthy supporter. Mr. Trump’s team has also left the door open to exploring a bankruptcy for corporate entities implicated in the case, according to people with knowledge of the discussions. That option, however, is politically fraught during a presidential race in which he is the presumptive Republican nominee, and for now it appears unlikely.

The former president has been unable to secure the full bond, his lawyers said in the court filing on Monday, calling it a “practical impossibility” despite “diligent efforts.” Those efforts included approaching about 30 companies that provide appeal bonds, and yet, the lawyers said, he has encountered “insurmountable difficulties.”

The company providing the bond would essentially promise to cover Mr. Trump’s judgment if he lost an appeal and failed to pay. In exchange, he would pledge cash as collateral, and he would pay the company a fee as high as $20 million. But Mr. Trump does not have enough liquidity to obtain the bond. The company would require Mr. Trump to pledge more than $550 million in cash and securities as collateral — a sum he simply does not have.

Although the former president boasts of his billions, his net worth is derived largely from the value of his real estate, which bond companies rarely accept as collateral. Mr. Trump has more than $350 million in cash, a recent New York Times analysis found, far short of what he needs.

[From The NY Times]

He doesn’t have the money. He can’t even put the penalty on layaway. Between this penalty and the E. Jean Carroll verdict ($83.3 million), Trump really will have to sell some of his biggest properties. Surely that would be the way to go rather than filing for bankruptcy? Sell Trump Tower, sell the Bedminster golf club, sell Mar-a-Lago, sell all of it because you’ve got to pay all of these fines and penalties and defamation damages. Anyway, it’s amazing that THIRTY bond companies all turned him down. They know he’s broke-ass.

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  1. seaflower says:

    Hehehheheheeeeee

    I wonder how leveraged his properties are? How much he owes on each of them.

    Hehehheheheeeeee

    • Indica says:

      I’ve thought for years he only has a very small percentage of ownership of everything. They use him for the front man and someone else (Russia) owns most.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Which is a huge problem if he goes to some of these people for the money. What would he promise in return? Me, I’m loving this for him. Sell those over-valued properties Donnie-boy! And when there’s nothing left over & you’re still owing more? Empty all those bank accounts, including the off-shore ones! Liquidate baby, all of it!

      • Kelly says:

        I’ve always wondered why he didn’t flee the country after his term. I guess his real backers only care about the face he presents and don’t give a damn about him personally.

    • equality says:

      Yeah, that was my thought. Or how much any of them are actually worth as businesses.

    • The Robinsons says:

      Great!!!
      His desperation to be President again is over, anyway.

    • Megan says:

      I don’t believe it. He is trying to run out the clock thinking he can erase the judgement if he is elected.

      • Nikki says:

        This is exactly it. He’s spent a lifetime successfully delaying everything. By delaying it either goes away completely or gets radically reduced. He’s even now successfully delaying criminal charges and slowly one by one individual charges get dropped. He has a clear path to the election without anything getting in his way. G*D help the USA and the rest of the world, if he gets elected again.

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      Yeah, the loans he took out to buy and build properties are a huge problem for him.

      For one thing, it shows he does not own the properties outright. And if the properties are sold then anyone who owns any percentage of it would have to agree to the sale and to possibly being outed as a backer for Trump’s frauds (assuming they knew about his frauds, obvi).

      Secondly, even if he did sell some of those properties the entity/entities that issued loans to buy/build those properties will get repaid *first*. If there is anything left after they are paid it can be used for the bond.

      The only way he can get the money before the deadline is with yet another loan/donation from someone(s) who are willing to hand him a boatload of cash and none of his financial backers *coughRussianMobcough* want to draw attention to themselves now. Besides that, he is no longer a useful idiot so they are probably just going to move on to the next on the list of Republican suckers to manipulate.

      Sidenote: How can anyone see that photo of trump sexually assaulting the US flag and think “yep, that’s who I want as president”?

    • monaisright says:

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

  2. ML says:

    A huge thank you to the civil courts in NYC. This is about the only place dealing with that criminal as an actual criminal. I hope they hold strong and don’t hit the pause button and he has to start liquidating his empire.

  3. Ariel says:

    I read on threads (take it for what it’s worth) that he only owns small pieces of trump tower, commercial spaces like the parking garage, lobby bathrooms, and several others. He also owns his condo unit there.
    Loving this. His house of cards is going going gone.

    • BeanieBean says:

      The condo unit that he said was what? Three times as big as it actually was? 30 times? It’ll go for far less than he pretended it was worth. Love it!

    • lucy2 says:

      That’s what I’ve always heard for ages too – he slaps his name on stuff and has a small percentage, but owns very little.
      This would be more enjoyable if he weren’t the nominee again (my God) and if people weren’t so stupid and cruel as to vote for him again.

      • Nikki says:

        Unfortunately, alot of voters are stupid 1 issue voters and would rather anyone else win (no matter how awful it is for others and them personally) that vote for the person who doesn’t allign with that 1 single issue that is important to them. The entitlement and self righteousness is strong with some people.

        Between the younger generation being (rightfully) disenfranchised and not bothering to vote. The 1 issue voters and all the GOP gerrymandering it is near impossible for anyone other than a GOP to get elected.

  4. sevenblue says:

    He is gonna get money from some richie rich guy from Middle East no doubt. They even helped Elon to buy Twitter, why wouldn’t they want a former president who has still power in Republican party.

    • ML says:

      Since he’s running for president, don’t they need to make sure foreigners can’t pay his debts?

      • sevenblue says:

        I think 4 years of his presidency showed that Trump can get away with anything. He literally led an insurrection and still walks free.

      • TN Democrat says:

        True, but there is faint hope. He truly is completely broke. Every asset is mortgaged to the max, so even if he sells, he won’t profit. He is begging his supporters to send him money instead of donating to the Republican party, so Republican(not) campaigns will be poorly funded.

      • lucy2 says:

        I read something a few weeks ago that said the RNC and the NRA were both very low on cash. 🙂
        It would be something if his grifting took both organizations down.

      • Kitten says:

        RNC has no cash compared to the DNC but they’re in the process of rebuilding the entire org after L Trump cleaned house and seem pretty confident that they’ll weather the temporary financial setback.
        They’re definitely at a disadvantage now but I don’t expect it to last long. Peter Thiel, Steven Schwarzman and all the other rich guys will be ponying up the cash before ya know it.

  5. Lolo86llf says:

    Donald Trump’s most plausible scenario right now is to have a real billionaire “loan” him all that money. Maybe Elon Musk will give him a loan since they are fellow Republicans and they both don’t believe in democracy. Another option would be Putin or the crown heir of Saudi Arabia would fork out the money on his behalf, and I do believe this second option would be illegal. I am enjoying this so much.

    • D says:

      I suspect, now that his daughter-in-law is the head of the RNC and has purged the RNC and replaced everyone with Trumpers, that what happens next is the RNC purchases Bedminster for its headquarters.

      Trump gets to use the money for his lawsuits/fines AND they prevent the government from re-possessing Bedminster, keeping whatever might be buried with Ivana safe from prying legal eyes.

      Trump wins; democracy, freedom and accountability loses. Again.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        But isn’t the RNC completely out of funds because all their supporters are sending donations to Trump instead of the RNC? They are already in a bad position when it comes to supporting down-ballot campaigns.

      • Kitten says:

        The financial infrastructure necessary to support down-ballot wins seems less so when the entire system is gerrymandered to the GOP advantage. I’m just saying: nobody should be counting on the narrative that the RNC is too broke to help Trump sail to a victory in 2024. Get out there and vote, y’all.

      • BlueNailsBetty says:

        @D The problem with that (pretty good) scenario is that any money that his properties bring in during a sale goes first to the people who hold the loans on those properties.

        After they have been paid any extra money can go to trump and that won’t be nearly enough to cover his bonds.

  6. smegmoria says:

    Love it, couldn’t happen to a better person. Funny thing though…. he doesn’t actually “own” these buildings. He owns parts of them. So I don’t know what him selling or his assets being seized would look like. Popcorn time!

    • BlueNailsBetty says:

      I would die laughing if we found out that he doesn’t own any amount of these buildings and he just licensed his hame to be used on them and has rights to stay at all of them.

      I’m not saying that will happen but it would be hilarious it if did. 😁

  7. Beana says:

    Chicagoan here – we’d be perfectly fine if he had to sell off his building and that “Trump” sign could finally stop ruining the view of the river for me. Do it Donnie – sell it off!

    • TheOtherOne says:

      💯 It’s messing up the beauty of the Riverfront. I hate seeing it every time I’m on Wacker!

      • Beana says:

        I don’t know about you, but I have serious plans to celebrate on the Riverwalk if they ever pull down those letters!

    • olliesmom says:

      Whenever I’m in Chicago I always make sure to give that ugly monstrosity of a building a double middle finger salute! What an eyesore.

      TheOtherOne and Beana: We should organize a Celebitchy Chicago meet up on the day that those letters are removed from that crap palace.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        Count me in. Every time I’m in Chicago I give that building the middle finger salute.

  8. glodina says:

    A few clarifications. It’s not a penalty or a fine. It is a “disgorgement” or payback. The reason why it matters is because a penalty or fine can be negotiated and reduced. A payback cannot be reduced it can only increase with interest. A payback is based on NY state calculations that the money is the amount of profit he made by cheating and lying.

    Also this is a state fraud case. The feds cannot stop the collection. Bankruptcy does not stop a fraud sanction.

    • Lightpurple says:

      And the bond money is needed to file an appeal of the order. He can’t delay the payments without an appeal and he can’t file an appeal without the bond money.

      He’s screwed and it’s wonderful

    • bisynaptic says:

      ❤️

    • BeanieBean says:

      Good to know! Thanks for the clarification!

    • concern fae says:

      Read a thread from a lawyer who deals in these sorts of things. Apparently, these bond companies limit the amount they are willing to risk to $100 million. That is why that’s the amount Trump is asking the bond to be reduced to. Also, because what he was found guilty of is *checks notes* fraudulently high assessments of his property, none of them are willing to accept his real estate as a guarantee for the bond.

      Oh, the consequences!

  9. North of Boston says:

    A Hamilton-esque tune is running in my head:

    “You don’t have the dough
    … you don’t have the dough
    Aha ha ha ha!

    You’re gonna need to pay New York and you don’t have the dough!”

  10. Amy T says:

    Evidently he’s bringing Paul Manafort back into his campaign, which is a really bad sign because of his ties to Russian oligarchs and Putin. If Trump suddenly comes up with the bond money, its sources are going to be getting something in return, and you’ve got to wonder if it’s Ukraine and chunks of Europe.

    If you’re a US voter reading this, please do what you need to in November to keep this guy out of the White House.

  11. bisynaptic says:

    I don’t understand why Trump wouldn’t squeeze Javanka for the cash.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      If a family loan were an option, he wouldn’t have shopped 30 different surety companies. Jared & Ivanka have kept their distance since January 6. They both have separate, deeply personal reasons to despise Trump–his time in the White House was just a business opportunity for them.

      • bisynaptic says:

        Granted, but the fact is: they owe their every penny to him. And he has tons of dirt on them. I just don’t see how he would allow himself to be embarrassed, without making them pony up.

  12. bisynaptic says:

    It’s not just that he’s broke: the companies recognize that, should he become dictator, on day one, he will surely stiff them.

  13. mary Pester says:

    It was a beautiful day phone call, a really beautiful phone call, the bestest bigliest phone call ever, till they said NO. Can’t understand why my autograph and my maga cap wasn’t good enough but they’re others, lots of others the mostest others in the world who are willing.

    ………. To say NO 😂🙃😂

  14. Bad Janet says:

    Wait, Trump is a fraud and has nowhere near as much money as he says he does? He is a narcissist who thinks he can still somehow get out of this? I’m shocked! Just shocked!

    And people still love this complete douche nozzle. Stupidity knows no bounds.

  15. trillion says:

    No wonder he’s amped up his chaos-agent scorched Earth rantings. “Blood Bath if I Lose” etc. I can’t wait for his comeuppance, although it’s hard to imagine it, given the massive passes he’s enjoyed.

  16. Giddy says:

    I read that he’s also in trouble in Scotland for overvaluing his golf course there by $200. That is against the law and could possibly lead to Scotland taking over the club.❤️

  17. BlueNailsBetty says:

    Dang it, I can’t find my shocked face. It’s around here somewhere but when I need it I can’t find it. Ugh.

  18. AlexS says:

    Trumps long history of screwing people over is coming back to haunt him. I dont blame them, Trump has an long history of refusing to pay his bills and leaving vendors high and dry. There is little evidence that Trump wont either refuse to pay his bills and tie it up in the courts for decades. Or if (God help us all) Trump becames President, he wont simply decree He doesnt need to repay and tell them to get bent.

  19. Libra says:

    Let’s hope Melania and Barron have their fully funded trusts under lock and key. He’s headed for bankruptcy.