Hunter Schafer, 25, refers to ‘Girls’ as a ‘period piece’, ‘in the aesthetic sense’

Hunter Schafer covers the latest issue of GQ, partly to promote her work in her first-ever film, Cuckoo, and partly to just talk about everything else she has going on, from art projects to even more acting projects in film and television, and on and on. I never really paid much attention to her beyond “wow, her style is so good” and “she’s a youth.” But she comes across as pretty rad (do people still say that?). Basically, this cover profile called me a Boomer and I’m still recovering from that. She’s 25 years old and she’s already lived so many lives. You can read the full piece here, and here are some highlights:

She’s new to this: “Some people are like, Oh, I’ve been here a lot of times before. I don’t think I’ve been here a lot of times before. But I do think within this life, I’ve been through a lot of things that force you to grow up pretty fast. And whether it’s the transness or the fame, both of those are big things as far as really— I can’t just wing this sh-t. I really have to be intentional about the way I’m moving in the world. In some ways it’s really lucky because I feel like it’s prepared me for the life I have now. But in other ways it’s like, I don’t know, you should have just been a kid and been a dumbass.”

She was very creative very early on: “I’m pretty sure I needed it as a way to externalize what I didn’t feel I could externalize with myself. I was a trans kid who didn’t transition until I was in high school. I had this whole world and person inside of me that couldn’t come out in the way it was supposed to. I think I really needed it as a tool.”

A pandemic breakdown: “I had probably what’s close to a mental breakdown and then bought a truck and drove across the country” is how she initially described it to me. But when we talk about it more over lunch the next day, it’s clear it was an intense and extended personal crisis. “I remember having a moment where I knew that something was wrong…I knew I needed help.” So she got out of her apartment, and Los Angeles. That May, she loaded up her truck and began driving east, aiming for her sister’s place in Boone, North Carolina. On the road, she felt an immediate lift. “It was the happiest I had been in COVID at that point,” she says. “It was something to do, keep my eyes on the road.” She cruised through Arizona, Texas, and Kentucky, landing in Boone five days later.

She dated Rosalía for five months in 2019: These days, they’re friends, which is something Schafer is proud of. They’ve been spotted around town recently, getting smoothies and testing out couches. “I have really beautiful friendships with people that I was once romantically involved with,” she says. With Rosalía, “she’s family no matter what. It’s been so much speculation for so long. Part of us just wants to get it over with, and then another part is like, ‘It’s none of anybody’s f–king business!’ ” Ultimately, though, “it’s something I’m happy to share. And I think she feels that way too.”

Recently, she’s tried to avoid saying the word ‘trans’ in interviews entirely. “As soon as I say it, it gets blastoff. It took a while to learn that and it also took a while to learn that I don’t want to be [reduced to] that, and I find it ultimately demeaning to me and what I want to do. Especially after high school, I was sick of talking about it. I worked so hard to get to where I am, past these really hard points in my transition, and now I just want to be a girl and finally move on. It’s a privilege, but it’s been very intentional. I’ve gotten offered tons of trans roles, and I just don’t want to do it. I don’t want to talk about it.”

She still feels guilt though: “I know for a fact that I’m one of the most famous trans people in media right now, and I do feel a sense of responsibility, and maybe a little bit of guilt, for not being more of a spokesperson. But ultimately, I really do believe that not making it the centerpiece to what I’m doing will allow me to get further. And I think getting further and doing awesome sh-t, in the interest of ‘the movement,’ will be way more helpful than talking about it all the time.”

There’s no utopia: “I’ve kind of lost interest in achieving some sort of utopia. I am totally cool with people hating me for being trans or calling me a man. I am not interested in trying to convince them anymore. As long as you’re staying in your lane”—she points away from her, across the room—“work. Work! Do that. And I’m going to be over here with people I love.”

She’s doing a ‘Girls’ rewatch: It’s a show she adores and refers to as a “period piece.. In the aesthetic sense, I mean. Their outfits feel so heightened. Is that what it was like?”

A Capricorn: “I am a proper Capricorn. I want to control everything.”

[From GQ]

“I do feel a sense of responsibility, and maybe a little bit of guilt, for not being more of a spokesperson. But ultimately, I really do believe that not making it the centerpiece to what I’m doing will allow me to get further.” True or false? She has to do what’s right for her, and what feels authentic for her, but I also understand why she feels guilty – she’s a bright, visible beacon of hope for so many trans kids. But maybe being a beacon of hope can just be living her life, working, thriving, surviving and existing like everyone else. Also: Girls as a period piece? The last season of Girls aired in 2017, just seven years ago! It’s not a f–king period piece, OH MY GOD. What is wrong with the youths??

Photos courtesy of Cover Images. Cover courtesy of GQ.

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14 Responses to “Hunter Schafer, 25, refers to ‘Girls’ as a ‘period piece’, ‘in the aesthetic sense’”

  1. Kitten says:

    I love her and I love what she says here. It can feel like a burden put on the shoulders of marginalized people–this implicit expectation that they must always be a spokesperson for their community. This is something the average white cishet person doesn’t have to deal with. Let the woman live her damn life however she pleases and if part of that requires protecting her peace by just being an actor and not a Trans Actor then she has every right to do so.

    • Turtledove says:

      Exactly this, Kitten —> “This is something the average white cishet person doesn’t have to deal with.”

      I get why she feels a bit guilty, like she “has” to be a spokesperson. But she has the right to just live her life. And I think that as her career moves forward, she will do well. And that WILL be inspiring for young trans people in it’s own way.

      We all know she is trans, and watching her succeed will hopefully be inspiring to other young trans people. It sounds like she just wants to be known as a young woman that acts, and wants to play women, nit exclusively trans women. I think she is great and would love to see her in a variety of roles, so hopefully she will continue to do well. And trans kids that are watching will see that and it will still be inspiring. We all have celebs that we look up to in various ways… whether they identify as role models or not.

  2. DragonWise says:

    I know, I am also an old, but I kind of get what she’s saying about “Girls” in that it really was of its time and had a very particular aesthetic that was its own thing. I think it only spoke to certain people for that reason. Also, I think it would get a lot more criticism for those choices if it were debuting in 2024!

    • tealily says:

      Anything that’s very on or ahead of the trend, Euphoria included, eventually feels like a period piece. We have similar conversations about Sex and the City too. Very “of an era.” Seven years is more than a quarter of her life, so I’m sure these changes are more evident to her than to someone in their 40s or 60s or whatever.

  3. KC says:

    Things that make me feel old are coming at me fast and furious these days (solidly mid-40’s) but nothing has made me feel as old as reading that Girls is a period piece.

  4. matthew says:

    I’m actually rewatching it with with a friend who never saw it and it’s definitely a period piece.

    But I think it has to do more with being such a specific time and moment in NYC rather than being so long ago.

    • adrienne says:

      Yeah I get that. I watched girls a few years ago and it’s definitely more of a period piece in that everything feels so different now. Girls has very pre-pandemic vibes and life just doesn’t look or feel like that anymore. Broad City and Workaholics are the same IMO.

  5. Hannah Kay says:

    It’s not anyone’s place to tell a woman what to do with their body but I wish she didn’t get a nose job. It was nice to see a woman with a strong nose playing a “hot” girl.

  6. yellowy says:

    I like her outfit on the cover. She’s looks like 1950s hiker putting her cardigan over her bathing suit after cooling off in an Alpine stream.

    But maybe it’s the blonde hair and German name making me think that.

  7. tealily says:

    I just saw the preview for Cuckoo and it looks super creepy. I’m very excited to see it and to see Hunter in a different role!

  8. AngryJayne says:

    Girls feels dated because Lana is/was so into herself and her bubble and it came across that way in the show, even as it was airing. So I get *what* she’s saying even if referring to it as a period piece is a bad description.
    … Regarding everything else I’m (not) sorry that she has the right to talk about whatever she wants in an interview. However. Just like how women get asked certain questions just for being a woman, or a person of color gets asked about various topics and their experiences in the current social climate JUST for BEING a person of color – she’s gonna get asked about being trans in the industry.
    To expect it not to come up or to avoid it or sidestep it might be a smidge unrealistic?

    Just saying.

  9. Jessica says:

    To be honest, most pop culture from the Obama era feels like a period piece to me, or an artifact from a better universe than the one we’re in now.

  10. Your Favourite Song's House Remix says:

    (I don’t want to be [reduced to] that, and I find it ultimately demeaning to me and what I want to do. Especially after high school, I was sick of talking about it. I worked so hard to get to where I am, past these really hard points in my transition, and now I just want to be a girl and finally move on.)

    I know there are some people in the trans community that are going to be very “you said you like pancakes, so that means you hate waffles” about this statement, but as a trans man, I totally get where she’s coming from and I support her 100%.

    I just want to be a guy just like any other. I know that for some people this is hard to understand, and I’ve found that ironically enough it is cis people that get it. I feel like a queer man, not a queer trans man. Everyone’s trans journey is different and all of out experiences should be respected.

  11. 411fromdownunder says:

    Hmmm, I guess SITC is a period piece to me like Girls is to her. Period. End. Past… no way to ‘feel’ or experience the era ever again. Damn!!! Time flies when we’re having fun.

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