Earlier today, I covered the quotes from Tina Brown’s interview on The Ankler podcast. Brown has written many books and articles about the Windsors and she’s considered some kind of expert. I’ll admit that I found some of her interviews and articles interesting, but her years-long denigration of the Duchess of Sussex is where Brown has really jumped the shark. Obviously, every outlet is running Tina’s quotes about how Meghan “is flawless about getting it all wrong,” and how Prince Harry is “in thrall” with his terrible wife. But Tina also threw in some slams of Prince William. Obviously, those quotes are not getting the same kind of attention:
On the Sussexes’ foreign tours, Tina Brown said, “When he goes on these much mocked foreign trips, he’s just really good at it. He’s charming, he’s funny, he’s sweet, he’s authentic again. He has a real sense of being true and real, and he’s flawless at it. So it’s actually very sad that he can’t go back to England and play that role, which is desperately needed, because now the monarchy is a skeleton of itself. It’s so ironic that Prince Charles, for all those years, talked about the slimmed down monarchy. It’s been so slimmed down now that it’s anorexic.”
“You’ve basically got Charles, who’s got cancer. You’ve got Kate, who’s been through this terrible cancer bout herself and had to leave the stage for nearly a year, and William, who’s so curtailed by all the anxiety on his shoulders—his wife and his father and the whole thing—that they could use, an upbeat, joyful ambassador to the world who would be Harry.
“The problem is very much the same problem that I talked about with Princess Diana and Charles, which was known as the ‘upstage problem.’ I mean, he does upstage William. There’s no doubt about it.”
Asked if Harry would “remain in the U.S., and be married to Meghan in ten years time,” Brown said: “I think he’s pretty much in the thrall of Meghan… He’s the lamb to the slaughter in this situation. I mean, he was terribly impressed by Meghan. He thought that she knew it all. She persuaded him that she was the savvy Hollywood wheeler dealer, who would come in and make them stars and all the rest of it. And he just sort of blindly followed her like a child, really. And unfortunately, she made every mistake in the book, and she’s kind of run out of road, actually. I mean, I don’t know where Meghan goes.”
“I think that Harry could still, as I say, make a comeback. He’ll always be Prince Harry. He’ll always be the grandson of the Queen and the son of Diana. You can’t take that from him, whatever happens.”
Asked if the British people would welcome Harry, she said, “I think if he came back alone, they would… unfortunately, I think that the hostility between Harry and William is such that I don’t think that William will ever want Harry back.”
[From The Daily Beast]
It amuses me that all of these years later, these dumb people still think of it in such simplistic terms: “we need Harry to go back to the UK so we’re going to smear his wife and that will hopefully encourage Harry to divorce Meghan and go crawling back to his abusive family.” That’s the big plan and they haven’t deviated from it for six-plus years. As for Tina’s admission that William is anxious and dull and terrified that Harry will upstage him… that’s all true. But it’s even worse than that. It’s worse than Tina Brown or any royalist will admit: William and the rest of the left-behind clan are so obsessed with the Sussexes that they trying to copy everything Harry and Meghan do, while also screaming about everything Harry and Meghan do. It’s unsustainable.
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Meghan worked in Canada not hollywood. Tina is looking at the wrong couple . Kate and her family planned to get her to be queen. If that isn’t scheming I don’t know what is. The upstaging issue could have been corrected had Charles gone for counseling about the upstaging
No Harry isn’t scheming to upstage Peg. Harry lives his life does his charity work and has a happy life. Peg on the other hand is as fragile about himself as Chuckles. They think the world should revolve around them and they are finding out it doesn’t. They should grow up and take good looks at themselves but that will never happen so they will cry about Harry upstaging them.
^^ Exactly @Susan Collins. 💯
All the so-called ‘upstaging’ in Windsor royalty parlance is strictly caused by the grifting, clueless rota ratchets and BM tabloid media with their 24/7 overwrought madness. Neither Diana nor H&M ever craved being plastered all over BM front pages and endlessly targeted and harassed. Jealousy by the other royals coupled with the rota ratchets’ insane obsession created the outsized profiles and overdone scrutiny of Diana * Meghan * Harry * which the left-behinds have labelled as, ‘upstaging.’
Diana and H&M were simply genuinely themselves within that institution. It is the institution which has continually refused to accept that the charm, brilliance, and authenticity of Diana, Harry, and Meghan, deserved to be embraced and nurtured as the magic wands and the tickets to transforming that outdated, boring, raggedy train of a monarchy into a 21st-century rocket ship to relevancy. 🚀 🌠
After all, who is it that’s obsessed with being popular stars, anyway? 🤔 It sure wasn’t Diana with her love for young people, her AIDS activism, and her support for landmine eradication. It triply sure ain’t H&M. The Sussexes’ shared passions are philanthropy and community activism through developing collaborative, substantive, groundbreaking ventures and projects that actually benefit people in need. The authentic brilliance and light that some people possess simply can not be blocked or destroyed. Neither can it be copied or besmirched.
Sorry, but Meghan did work in Hollywood. She made about 10 movies before she stared on Suits.
‘Hollywood’ is just shorthand for ‘entertainment industry.’
You are correct: “Hollywood” refers to the entertainment industry as a whole. The British Media and public always misuse the term because they don’t understand this. Amazing how Tina Brown makes such comments about Meghan, having never met her or being acquainted with her.
She did have small roles in films like horrible bosses. But she did get more well known through her role in suits.
Not to be too pedantic but in this instance Hollywood is not used as a geographical term but as a euphemism for the entertainment industry. I mean based on your usage actors would have to say they worked in Hollywood, LA, Burbank, Culver City, etc. Also, while Suits filmed in Canada Meghan did have other acting gigs.
Toronto is a lot farther away from Hollywood than Culver City is.
@Olivia, that’s not the point. As others have said, ‘Hollywood,’ in this lying screed by TB, is a dismissive reference to the ‘entertainment industry.’ FYI: Suits is a ‘Hollywood’ industry television production. The pilot was filmed in New York, and subsequently the series relocated to Toronto to reduce production costs. Hollywood films, television series, and creative entertainments are produced all over the world. Tyler Perry has his own ‘Hollywood’ production empire in the heart of Georgia!
Let us not get hung up on geography. 🤦♀️ Leave that nonsense to the left-behinds and to grifting, pandering freaks like TB. Furthermore, nothing TB is whining about makes any sense. As usual, she’s using kind, fabulous, warmhearted Duchess Meghan and the frightful Windsor royals to draw attention to herself. TB has simply lost all sense of direction. ‘She’s kind of run out of road, and doesn’t know where she’s going.’ 🙈 🙄 🤷🏽♀️
Oooh William is not going to like this at all! first Harry surfing, now someone presumably on “his” side highlighting the known fact that the light will always find Harry over him,
The upcoming briefing rants and raves is going to be wicked funny.
For her to be this filthy, this viscous, I think something has happened or is about to happen that proves the fact that Charles is leaving planet E and there’s nothing to replenish the cupboards. The woman is openly calling for Harry to abandon his family and return to his abusers. This failed plan of theirs is all that’s left. The more successful the Sussexes are, the louder the ridiculous hue and cry. They’ve called on TB, because she does have some credibility with the US media, in particular, CBS This Morning. It sort of makes me believe that BP has been actively working to stifle Harry and Meghan here in the US. Every word she says, in my opinion, emanates from the firm. As for a opinion about William, well, “water is wet?” Do we need Tina to say the obvious.?
It’s the media crying here. Charles and William don’t want Harry back. William’s already figured out what kind of king he’ll be – he doesn’t need Harry to help him do the bare minimum.
@eurodice totally agree. This is the british media’s cry for harry to come back and bring back their careers with him. Slapping meg is just keeping them alive in britain because the world sides with the Sussexes.
I disagree, mostly because I do not believe that the British media is acting independently of BP and KP. Moreover, William is not the issue, it’s the monarchy that matters. As such, the men-in-grey and Charles, do want Harry back. William is obsessed with his brother, copying him, constantly briefing against him, so the idea that he’s decided what reign he’s going to have, I guess involves throwing tantrums about Harry? Regardless, even Harry said that William was angry about his decision to leave, saying it would be bad for the monarchy. William is not King yet. Until then, the Firm wants Harry back, for two reasons (1) he’ll be under their control, as such, they can then prevent him from out-staging his lazy, untalented brother; and (2) the knowledge to the public, and lesser royals, that it’s possible to survive outside the firm, and even do better than the leftovers, is bad for the monarchy.
@Proud Mary – If Charles wanted Harry to come back he could have done something about it, starting with not letting him go in the first place, starting with treating Meghan better, with standing up to the press and William and Camilla and his leaking courtiers. He didn’t have to cut off Harry’s money, he didn’t have to take away Frogmore, he could have accepted Meghan as Harry’s wife, he could have acknowledged Harry’s accomplishments, he could have said Happy Birthday and he could have met with Harry on numerous occasions, instead of running off to the countryside.
It’s been 5 frikkin’ years and everything Charles has done, along with the men-in-grey and his courtiers and his wife and their press minions, shows he doesn’t want Harry back. He couldn’t be more clear about this than if he put a neon sign on top of Buckingham Palace.
And William is most certainly the issue, as well. He is the future monarch. If the men-in-grey are worried, they should be worried about William. He’s a spiteful, jealous coward like his father, with the added feature of being lazy and disinterested. And he’s the one who has actually put up that neon sign – “I hate my brother and I never want him back, not even if it’s without Meghan.” No guesswork or reading tea leaves here.
@Eurydice, I agree with @Proud Mary’s key contention that Charles and the incompetent courtiers actually do want Harry back, but as @Proud Mary expressed in another recent thread, they want Harry back on their terms. Harry ain’t going back there on no terms, in any case. So this constant gaslighting, lying, and projecting by the salty, bitter left-behinds is useless noise! Louder for the hard of hearing!!! 🗣 Prince Harry Ain’t Going Back. The gilded cage is not life sustaining for anyone with good sense, creative ideas, and actual work ethic.
Everyone on that island knows that Harry is more suited to be King/a leader than William. The plan was always to have Harry there to prop him up and essentially be a shadow king. Harry falling in love with Meghan ruined the plan and they have no back up one.
Charles getting cancer put this in stark relief and they’re panicking.
I guess my question would be – who is it that’s panicking? Because I don’t see any moves from Charles or William to change things, and they’re the only ones who matter in this issue of kingship. The UK and other afflicted realms will get a sub-par William just as they now have a sub-par Charles and the world will move on.
@euridyce
You were right in saying the media is panicking. William and Kate have made it crystal clear they intend to give the below, bare minimum effort as King and Queen.
I also wonder how the UK government feels about this because they are supposed to represent brand Britain and they are a terrible representative. They are supposed to be soft diplomats and keeping the Commonwealth together. Instead they are escalating its fall. The calls for reparations and return of art and jewels are getting louder.
Basically, the glitz and glamour of the royal family is supposed to distract people from wanting the above. They are failing at their job.
Along with the Brit media, I think the courtiers are also panicking. After Chuckles goes, King William intends to hide out at home and phone in his reign. This will render many of them useless and jobless.
Harry is much better with people than his brother, but I don’t know that he’d be a better king, because he doesn’t want it. It would be a trap for him.
H is much better at getting attention, and it’s amusing that TB has mentioned it. Because you know who is also much better at getting attention than Kate? Meghan. Who TB has some kind of bitter blind eye for.
@ML, Harry would make a better king in the sense that he’s a much better leader. He’s also passionate, observant, caring, and charismatic. He has a sense of responsibility, too, and he respected his grandmother, QE-II. While Harry once said that none of them ‘want’ to be the monarch, the goal in the modern world is to use the monarchy as a platform for goodwill and for service to humanity.
Harry’s chief complaints against the Windsor monarchy have been the intrusive tabloid media’s silent contract; the interfering, incompetent courtiers causing friction between family members; and the inability to be treated with respect by his father & brother. Much less has Harry been listened to by anyone running that rotting institution (when he was a working royal).
As King Henry IX of England, Harry would be a transformative monarch. He would do his best to change the outdated institution from the inside out!
ITAWY about Tina. She’s always been horrid!
And why do these people think Meghan and Harry want a public “star” lifestyle anyway. They’ve never made any hint that they did. They lived quietly in the UK between royal gigs and same in California. Meghan didn’t seek that kind of attention when she was an actor.
I’m fairly certain that she misses being able to travel freely and go to the UK whenever she wants but that is a small price to pay for their safety.
They did luck into the Montecito place, but Montecito is where the “Hollywood” people go when they want to live safely and relatively quietly/privately.
These people are terrible humans. To actively hope that a man with a five year old and three year old leaves them and moves 11 hours away to be Renfield to William’s Dracula. Just no consideration to how that would devastate Harry, how traumatic that would be given his own childhood and his previous admissions on his trauma from that, no concern to how that may impact Archie and Lili’s life, no consideration to how a divorce and not seeing his kids would impact the happy-go-lucky, charming, enthralling prince. They really think that a guy who just lost his entire family would be a super happy guy willing to do all the heavy lifting to rescue a dying monarchy. This isn’t new from them but it’s just so disgusting.
He was always supposed to be the sacrificial lamb, and he refused.
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This old sow again…sigh.
It’s just the same old talking points over and over. Saying out loud that Harry would need to abandon his wife and kids to come back to the fold is beyond tasteless. All of this sturm and drang leads me to a terrible realization: what these idiots had in mind not only for Harry and Meghan, but for their children.
Can you imagine the Sussex kids growing up in the UK? What if one or the other showed more talent or ability than a Wales kid? What if Lili turns out to be prettier than Charlotte? These geriatric ghouls would salivate over writing slander about children–how would a temper tantrum by a Sussex kid be treated? How would the kids mistakes be magnified? How would the kids be talked about inappropriately, especially as they entered puberty? How would their clothing, behavior, speech be policed? The British media would actively try to drive those kids to harm, to self harm. No way should those kids do anything other than visit the UK quietly until they are adults. The entire royal family and the entire British media is as toxic to the entire family as radioactive waste. The only thing to do when contending with toxic people is to stay away from them, less they poison you as well.
Yeah, Archie & Lili would be treated like Harry was. I believe, that was what W&K were betting on. The british media would go after those babies instead of their children. Spare’s children would be George’s spare, which would save other Wales’s kids.
The British Monarchy is a cult. The Sussex children need to stay as far away as possible from that nest of vipers.
On a daily basis, my cat could upstage PW.
👌🏽👏🏽😜🫡 🐈⬛🍆 🙀 😼 😸
You know, Tina, there is an obvious solution to Harry “upstaging” William. Could one day, one single day, go by without the British media covering non stories, or making up stories out of thin air about Harry and/or Meghan? One day?
Harry cant “save” the RF because they don’t want to be saved. Getting rid of H&M was Charles and William’s choice. They didn’t expect cancer and they didn’t expect H&M would continue to upstage them, but this is the RF they want to have and everyone just has to live with it.
100%
This has turned into the most “be careful what you wish for, you might just get it” I have ever seen. Congratulations, Charles and William, I can see your pathetic choices growing into a mushroom cloud, and neither of you have the intelligence to navigate this.
Harry sure does, though. He moves from success to success, and I love it for you.
This bitter old crone is so off the mark. Harry was always fun loving and hard working but his life with Meghan has given him direction to be the great man that was in him all along. All Harry ever needed was the love and support Meghan has freely given him. She made him an even better man. He has the love and the family he always desired. Meghan gave him the confidence that his other relatives denied him. He is no longer anyone’s spare. He is truly Good King Harry as his mother described him.
The thing that I’m still in awe of is, Prince Harry recognized his flaws and sought help for them. Turned him into a beautiful human being able to show empathy towards others. Not many men(or women) could achieve that.
Harry’s problem was, he was always a beautiful human being. Yes, he needed help because of his innate sensitivity and familial neglect.
Harry is doing now what he always did do. It’s not much different at all. He’s always been this person. However it was couched as royal work so will and Kate could take credit. He was such a generous person he didn’t let that stop him.
Even if M hadn’t arrived, he’d be this person.
Right @Camomile. Meghan said in the Netflix documentary: “Harry has always been on his own path.” Harry describes in Spare how devastated he was at losing several significant girlfriends due to media harassment and the enormity of the burdens of royalty. After Florence (aka Flea) fled, Harry recalls: “I stopped sleeping… I was so disappointed, so profoundly dejected, that I just stayed up night after night, pacing, thinking.” After mutually breaking up with Cressida several years later, Harry reveals: “I stopped going out in 2015. Stopped entirely… Solitary life. Strange life. I felt lonely, but lonely was better than panicky.”
Harry had began experiencing panic attacks having to be in public situations. This was the precursor to Harry’s first forays into seeking mental counseling, and the inspiration for his idea to launch a mental awareness campaign (with W&K, due to Harry’s abundant generosity). And then, just prior to the year he met Meghan, Harry mentions an encounter he had one night while gazing at the moon. In Greek mythology, Diana is not only the huntress, her symbol is the crescent moon.🌙 From Spare:
“I stared directly at the moon. It was speaking to me.. What was it saying? That the year ahead would be good… 🌙Something big. 🧑🦰Really? … Please don’t lie to me… I was staring thirty-two in the face. Something has to change. Please? 🌙It will. 🧑🦰 I opened my mouth to the sky, to the moon. To the future. Aaaah.”
And then, “part 3 captain of my soul”
The story unfolds of when Harry met Meghan.
Beautiful post PC and I totally agree .
The screening is because Charles’ illness is more serious and when he transitions it will be exposed more that William is unfit for the job.
If William’s unfitness to be king is going to be ‘exposed more,’ I would surely hate to see what that looks like! 🤪 🫣 We can already see how dried-up and wasted he already looks with his ugly scruff and pasty skin. Forget about how friggin’ awkward and inappropriate he behaves, with his off-putting grimaces and his ‘a little smile and a wave,’ wild jazz hands attitude. 😵💫 🤮
Tina Brown may be right about William but she’s just an awful person.
these are the same talking points we’ve been hearing for years. The one exception is her admission that Harry upstages William but everyone knows that. That was always part of the problem. When she talks about Harry’s talent and his upstaging of William – that’s always been true. That’s why the Firm has spent years denigrating Harry while protecting William.
Enter Meghan and the upstaging problem just increased because Kate couldn’t get the press attention she used to be able to get. And the issue wasn’t just that Meghan was photogenic and glamorous – she was very good at the actual job, at using her platform to spotlight issues with projects with tangible results. Meanwhile Kate thinks the job is just wearing more coatdresses.
That’s what’s interesting. TB is happy to say Harry upstages William but refuses to acknowledge that actually Meghan on her own easily upstages both William and Kate. It’s not just Harry. But TB has to claim that Meghan gets it all wrong. When no meghan also also upstages the leftovers.
You could argue that Meghan’s biggest mistake was to get it all right, to be good with people, hard working and beautiful.
🖕🏽 🎯 💯❗️
Ya know from the strange press stories, you’d think Harry was the first human on the planet to get married and move away from his birth family. LOL
Chuck and Will are going out on a sinking ship.
The Monarchy is winding down.
William will be the last King. And he will do as little as possible at the job.
He will still be a huge wealth hoarder too.
My worry is for George and Char, the press will stalk them like wild animals once Will is King.
Just for $$.
Everyone seems to want to LOOK like Meghan in UK, too!
Harry’s mini solo tour was wise, given Tina Brown’s biased views. Brown’s implications Meghan has an unnatural hold on Harry, reveal her own misogynoir and prejudice against non-white women who defy traditional norms in HER view.
Harry is so clear in Spare about him being the driving force for them leaving. At that point, Meghan was doing her best to survive. She wasn’t manipulating him about Hollywood dreams. TB is painting a picture of both Harry and Meghan that only exists in her racist and sexist mind. What an old-fashioned throwback she is. Embarrassing to see her try and clutch to relevancy like this. She wouldn’t understand a breath of fresh modernity even if it blew her antiquated self all the way down.
Amen to all of this. Racist and antiquated is who Brown is.
Perfectly said. Meghan was trying to survive. It’s further gaslighting to suggest she was some sort of Machiavellian figure, pulling all of the strings.
Exactly! Meghan had already achieved a substantial personal measure of stardom and success in the ‘Hollywood’ entertainment industry with her role on Suits. As Meghan states in the H&M engagement interview: “I’ve been working on our show for 7 years. We were very fortunate to have such longevity… Once we reached the 100th episode marker, I thought, ‘You know what, I’ve ticked this box…'” She had achieved a milestone in her acting career at the same she met Harry. She was ready to move on toward a more full-time pursuit of charitable and humanitarian-related goals.
H&M’s engagement interview is a refreshing historical document which can be viewed again and again for the beautiful camaderie they display, their articulateness, their loving glances and sheer happiness in being together. But most of all for the prophetic, scintillating clarity of their comments: “She chooses me, I choose her, and whatever we have to tackle together or individually, it will always be us together as a team… The fact that I fell in love with Meghan so incredibly quickly was confirmation to me that all the stars had aligned… We make a fantastic team. We know it…” 🥹 🌠 ♌️ ♍️ ☯️
They were both so eager and enthusiastic about working within the institution of monarchy to bring positive change. It was the institution that rejected them and said, ‘No. We want to tear you apart and ruin your happiness. We own Harry.’ Such gall and cruelty. Even once H&M left for their own sanity and the preservation of their lives and their marriage, both the BM and the BRF have been bound and determined to endlessly attempt to destroy them. As Meghan said in her Archetypes podcast, quoting Greek poet, Dinos Christianopoulos: “They tried to bury us, they didn’t know we were seeds.” 🌳🌴
The monarchy has fallen. Obvious when the Queen passed. No photo ops, no crowds …
Charles is doing his best but we are seeing how that is going.
William and Kate .. just not up to the task. No idea what is going on there but they both look awful and it’s not about cancer.
Yes, yes and yes. William looks like someone with no healthcare and no way to access any. His wife Kate does’nt appear to be faring any better.
The monarchy is definitely done on a world stage, these tours are actually an embarrassment. I hate this woman she vilified Princess Diana and still makes money off from her after her death and is trying her hardest to make the same thing happen to Princess Meghan, it’s sick. Maybe some day they will wake up and realize Prince Harry’s endgame is never going to be returning to that family’s business, he is done preforming for the tabloid media, and he certainly is never going to leave his family for anyone on that island of hate.
Curtailed by anxiety?Does she mean Will froze at the prospect of stepping up to cover for the King at the start of February? But now he’s “back to standard service” eg 2 days a week? Will is going to continue mooching through life whether prince or king as long as BM don’t call him put for It.
I cannot get over how gross these comments are about Harry and Meghan. The racism. The hatefulness.
Harry wanted out of England long before he met Meghan. Hell, he said he preferred COMBAT to royal life. He’s not in thrall to Meghan. He’s in love with her.
Unfortunately, Tina Brown — like Charles — likely doesn’t know what “in love” means.
🖕🏽This! 💯 🎯 👌🏽
Funny this: it’s often the British women in media with the most unfortunate and miserable private lives that are doing the belittling and character assisination of Meghan with an unhinged passion, for years now. Just take a look at the (past) events in each of their private lives and you’ll get where the venom, hate and jealousy come from. I’ll give you what’s in the mix:
divorced, cheated opon by their husbands/partners (or the other way arround) loneliness, depression, abandonment by one or two patents, passed abuse, addiction of any kind, sacked from a ‘prestigious’ job, you name it.
Tina, fits in perfectly. From the get go she hated/s Meghan with a passion. She’ll take any opportunity to insult her and paint her in the most horific way.
When on US TV she tones it down a bit, but still she’ll be doing the disparagement.
Unfortunately many in US and UK legacy and gossip media still consider her as a sort of ‘authority’ in celebrity/ lifestyle matters, and still are offering her a platform to do her bidding, but that status is long gone by. Formaly, she doesn’t have a platform for years now; sacked, or let go from her positions. (With this podcast thingy it looks like she’s doing her bidding for a comeback).
Anyhow, Tina B knows as much about Meghan (and Harry) and what’s going on in the royal family these days, as the rest of the so-called royal experts.
I’ll say this – keep on belittle Meghan, Tina B, your karma is soon coming.
You forgot to list those awful teeth. “ugh.”
Chuck and Willy are obsessed with the words “upstaged” and “overshadowed”. It was never enough for them to be future monarchs with various institutions devoted to propping them up. They also craved popularity and attention. Everyday is their wedding day and they are the worst bridezillas.
Huevo physically attacks his own brother because he can’t have his way and doesn’t apologize but Harry is the childish one? Yeah right. The press and RF gave Harry a role to play and he said no thanks and they will never get over that. They continue to infantilize him with the story line that he was somehow lured away from the RF by Meghan. As if he is incapable of having his own thoughts and feelings. And as to Meghan, what is the trajectory for an actress who marries a prince and who is involved in philanthropy? They keep saying she is washed up but she seems like she’s doing just fine to me. Maybe she would like to act again or maybe not. Maybe she likes being a mom right now. Not to mention, what exactly has pre-cancer Kate done? She’s been trying this and that but never accomplishing anything. She’s had quite the head start too and yet nothing. Why don’t they write about that sometime?
Couldn’t agree more. W&K got engaged November 2010 with KM commencing engagements immediately with W, so she’s shortly into year 15 of public life. She’ll be banking on continuing uncritical press as …….. there’s no-one else.
The problem that TB and other UK writers have is continuing to paint Harry as someone who blindly follows along without a thought in his head. The more people Harry interacts with and works with on different charities, the more people know this isn’t true. As the years go on, they will need to find something else to use. They’ll always have some people who will believe this (just as we will always have a certain number of MAGAs in the US), but as the years roll on less and less people will believe it or care what they write.
Whi is any of this Harry’s problem or responsibility? His only responsibility as the spare was to be ready to serve if something happened to the heir. He did that and now George is in that role. Anything else is at his option. His job is not to sacrifice himself to benefit the egg. And survive on a doled out allowance at the discretion of the monarch.
He is independent, married and self sufficient. If the sovereign or heir wants favors from him, it will be his coice or obkige but he is not required to.
Dear Tina,
You mean “cachexic”, not “anorexic’. Also, a whole lot of people would give their eyeteeth for Harry’s kind of “slaughter”.
Tina Brown would commonly be referred to as a nasty piece of work
I am old enough to remember how very vicious she was to Diana. I read a couple of her books back in the day. She was obviously getting briefed by BP and Clarence House back then. It’s just a continuation of the playbook from BP and Tina Brown.
I think it’s so dirty that she gives Harry no agency at all and continues this narrative of him being the dumb one. She needs to talk about how in thrall Charles has been/is to Camilla. Camilla who was fine traveling out of the country for another vacation while Charles is ill.
🖕🏽 Ah, yes! Exactly! It is Charles who is ‘in thrall’ to Camilla. 🎯