For years, Ryan Murphy has been talking about producing a miniseries on John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette Kennedy. He’s finally doing it as an extension of his “American” franchises, and this one will be “American Love Story.” A few months ago, he cast Paul Kelly and Sarah Pidgeon as John and Carolyn. Then one week ago, Murphy’s team published a “screen test” with the actors, and photos of the actors “in character.” The photos and video were torn to shreds by pretty much everyone. People loathed the fashion choices for faux-Carolyn, and a million “thinkpieces” have been written in the past week about everything Murphy’s team is doing wrong. Well, Murphy is speaking out.
Ryan Murphy wants the Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy fashion fandom to know that he won’t disappoint them. The television impresario faced fashionista backlash last week when he posted a first look of “American Love Story” stars Paul Kelly and Sarah Pidgeon in what appeared to be full wardrobe and makeup as John F. Kennedy Jr. and Bessette-Kennedy.
The Cut’s takedown of the images and videos blazed with the headline, “These Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy Costumes Don’t Fit the Bill.” The accompanying essay trashed the looks as appearing to be fast-fashion knockoffs of Bessette-Kennedy’s high designer style. “I feel like I’m looking at Mango and Zara,” The Cut’s fashion news writer Danya Issawi wrote in part. “There is no life, there is no story, there is no familiarity with these pieces.” Like many others, Issawi criticized the jeans, jacket and shoes Pidgeon was wearing as well as her accompanying Birkin. She also wrote that she reached out to the show for clarification.
Murphy admits he was taken aback by the negative and sometimes what he feels were sometimes unnecessarily mean-spirited comments. “Carolyn Bessette is cleary a religious figure and it’s a religion of her own,” he told me Wednesday during a phone interview from set. “It’s very interesting that people become so inflammatory.”
But here’s the runway rub about the images – Kelly and Pidgeon were not wearing anything they’ll be donning on the show. Murphy insists their outfits were thrown together for lighting and color tests but he released the photos — which he captioned on Instagram as “stills from our LOVE STORY camera test” — because he wanted to get ahead of the paparazzi who he was warned would be flocking to the series’ New York City street sets. Filming began earlier this week and is expected to run through late October or early fall.
“There were comments like, ‘I hate that coat, Carolyn would never have worn that,’” Murphy says. “That was just a coat we threw on for color. People were writing, ‘How dare you use the No. 35 Birkin bag? She wore a 40!’ Yes, we have a 40 but we just threw on a bag from another costume department because that was the sound stage we were on.”
In fact, Murphy says he has enlisted a 10-person “style advisory board” to help reference and source Carolyn’s wardrobe. The names of the board members will be released at a later date when all their contracts are signed. The production has actually bought some clothing that belonged to Bessette-Kennedy. A replica of the Narciso Rodriguez wedding dress she wore when she and JFK Jr. married in 1996 is being built from scratch. Murphy lists off some of costume designer Lou Eyrich’s ever-increasing inventory: “We have multiple pairs of Manolo black heels and sandals from 1992 to 1999. We have the Manolo boots she wore in black and brown. We have her Prada tall boots. We have her Prada bags. We have the Birkin No. 40 that we have taken to a specialist to scruff it up so it looks identical to the one she would wear half-open on the subway.”
Sadly, Murphy believes, scrutiny hurled at the show’s Carolyn is eerily similar in to how the media and public treated Bessette-Kennedy. “We’re writing a story about a person – an unknown person – who falls in love with the most famous man in the world and suddenly she can’t leave her house,” Ryan says. “She was constantly being photographed, being called a c–t by the paparazzi.” Her every move and fashion choice was dissected ad nauseum. “They’re doing to our Carolyn, what they did to the real-life Carolyn,” Murphy says. “It’s not fair.”
Murphy also complained about a Vogue interview with hairstylist Brad Johns, who did Carolyn’s hair – Johns trashed Faux-Carolyn’s blonde, saying in part “why the f–k is she all ashed out with her hair only one color?” Murphy pointed out that Sarah Pidgeon was wearing a WIG in those photos. Anyway, well done, everyone. I think the fashion/hair/Birkin bag community has successfully bullied Ryan Murphy into taking this sh-t seriously and hiring more fashion historians who will (at the very least) get Carolyn’s clothes correct. Murphy is now aware that they need to get her blonde shade perfect too.
Photos courtesy of Ryan Murphy Productions’ IG and Cover Images.
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- Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr photographed in New York, NY – 6/23/1998. -PICTURED: Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, John F. Kennedy Jr -PHOTO by: STARTRAKSPHOTO.COM -Kennedy_John_Carolyn_GE513 Featuring: Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, John F. Kennedy Jr Where: New York , NY , USA When: 22 Jan 1998 Credit: STARTRAKSPHOTO.COM
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- October 5, 1998: John Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette leaving their apartment to attend the Municipal Art Society Benefit Gala celebrating the reopening of Grand Central Station after restoration in New York City. Credit: Paul Adao/INFphoto.com Ref.: infusny-39 Featuring: Carolyn Bessette, John Kennedy Jr. Where: New York City, New York, United States When: 05 Oct 1998 Credit: Paul Adao/INFphoto.com
I can see his argument about the test shots, but the pap shots from set are just as bad. They have her dressed all wrong in cheap looking things. Hopefully they can course correct and get the right people on the production. There is literally an entire internet plus books cataloguing her clothes from before she was famous until she died so there is no excuse in messing this up.
I don’t recall Carolyn carrying a beat-up looking Birkin–she carried a Tod’s tote, black, more often than not.
Oh she DEFINITELY carried a Birkin, which she carried and stuffed full as casually as you would a promotional canvas tote, which I’ve always thought was fabulous.
The eyes and eyebrows are wrong for this Carolyn. The eyes look…fiercesome to me…the real Carolyn had a more tender and vulnerable visage. Similar to Diana. This one, not so.
Definitely giving the mistaken casting vibes. Ryan looks too young and not so confident for JFK Jr. John strutted.
I’d have gone for Elizabeth Debicki.
Second Elizabeth Debicki
Same !
Honestly, to me she looks like Holly Madison (Girls Next Door). One positive, they look like they got JFK Jr’s hair right.
I see a young Olivia Hussy when I see her face (think the “Romeo and Juliette” Olivia).
you’re right Blogger, Libra & Eleonor! Elizabeth Debicki would have been perfect! Can’t imagine why they didn’t cast her. Maybe she was not available?
I said it when they were casting and I’ll still say it again but to me I could have seen Hunter Schaffer possibly making it work. It’s a hard role to get right. But she’s a good actress and I think she could have nailed it.
I don’t know about Hunter’s acting but her look is right. She has that extra special “it” factor, too, that I think Carolyn possessed. You can’t take their eyes off them, imo.
What these male filmmakers never seem to understand is that Diana and Carolyn weren’t just beautiful blondes. They were strange, interesting, intelligent looking people. Both had too big noses, too long necks, too big eyes, were too tall. These ” flaws” made them fascinating. Almost mythical. And so they cannot be played by standard pretty girls with tiny features and bleached hair.
@Jezz — spot on! Perfectly stated.
I don’t understand why people try to do these biopics on incredibly high-profile people gone within a generation or two.
And if you’re going to do it, just use archival footage, for heaven’s sake. Do what Ken Burns did for his Civil War series, with still photos, voice overs, and film of places but not actors playing the central roles. It never works, you can replicate a wardrobe but not a beloved soul.
Your comment nailed it. They were interesting looking – their faces had character and showed vulnerability.
I always thought she had a European look to her. She had a strong angular face with striking features. Her look of dramatic hair and minimal makeup accentuated her unique look. She looked like a modern day Valkyrie.
The actress can’t even begin to channel Carolyn’s Ice Queen looks. No matter what clothes and hair color they come up with there is something fundamentally lacking.
Perfectly stated. Dead on.
Exactly! Like, why do you want to do this couple if you don’t understand the full nature of them? And it has to be both of them; it feels like arrogance in dismissing how huge she was.
And Ryan? Everyone was giving *you* a hard time for not taking it seriously enough and not caring enough about both sides of the couple. Obnoxious comments, really.
“were too tall” honey, being a woman and tall is not a ‘flaw’ it’s a gift from God.
And Carolyn, was GORGEOUS. On top of she had the ‘it’ factor and electric personality people were drawn to. Jon Jon was obsessed with her from people speaking about them. Though he did do some crossovers between Daryl and Carolyn. Which she iced him out until he ended it with Daryl Hannah and committed fully to her.
Hannah dodged a bullet.
I feel like every actress is told to get a nose job the second they land in LA. Especially nowadays with everyone getting Botox and fillers, actresses look flawlessly beautiful and kinda bland and generic at the same time. Any imperfection or individuality is airbrushed away. Carolyn and Diana stood out for sure, not just for their looks but for their charisma which shined through. I do think Sarah gadon would have been a great Carolyn.
I would think they’d have to try and go archival for as much as they can. Even expensive clothes nowadays are not the same as back then.
Yes, I think they’d have to. I just read a piece destroying the “fashion” and it was particularly hard on the cheap fabrics and shoes. They also correctly pointed out she worked at Calvin Klein, and they put her in a silhouette that’s recognizable as a different designer. There has to be archival CK available, they just didn’t want to pay for it.
“That’s not fair”
Oh man … how whiny. And comparing the actual woman’s experience to pushback HE’s getting because he did a sloppy, superficial job? Just stop
RM purposely released shots that showed a lack of care with styling, appearance, quality … and then complains that people who know their shit point out that lack of care. Why do a color test with all the wrong pieces. You can’t do a color test with incorrect colors, materials … because different ones photograph differently! That’s the whole idea of doing a *test* before you finalize and shoot.
A dramatization of CBK’s life at that time can’t really capture her without capturing how she presented herself. All the custom wedding dress recreations in the world won’t make up for it if the rest of her wardrobe and styling looks like whatever they had on hand and knockoffs someone grabbed from Kohl’s.
I think what really doesn’t work is that Sarah Pidgeon doesn’t channel CBK’s energy. She lacks that effortless sophistication, that mysterious and ethereal aura that Carolyn has.
As for the clothes, they should have worked with archival pieces from Calvin Klein, Narciso Rodriguez, Versace, or Yohji Yamamoto.
Yeah, CBK had a 90s cool that was off the charts. This girl looks boring. CBK and JFK jr were never boring.
She looks like a backstabbing co-worker who tries too hard fashion-wise.
The camera adored Carolyn.
She’s not believably rich. It’s an attitude. You have to not care if people like you or not. This poor actress doesn’t have that.
There are some projects where you just have to wait until the right actors come along. You can’t just go with the best from whoever auditioned.
I remember when there was controversy over casting Jennifer Lawrence in Hunger Games. Someone pointed out that she was one of the few young actresses who could believably play poor.
Completely agree. Everyone complaining about his production is being protective of the real woman and for him to try to equate criticism of his laziness and lack of care to her lived experiences is incredibly obnoxious. If he can’t get (or didn’t want to get) her clothes/hair/presence right, how can anyone trust that he’ll get the story right?
I funny, Sara resembles like Carolyn more without the blonde wig. British actress Therica Wilson-Read has a sticking resemblance to Carolyn and even has the hair the right color blonde. However she is 5’3 so maybe not the right choice. Dianna Agron also resembles Carolyn and she has that thing that something, that alluring quality Carolyn had.
I still think that’s a real good John Jr. no one looks like that him and Paul is a good choice.
Why would you do a test video with that empty Birkin? One think I loved about Carolyn was that she used it! She like Jane Birkin had that black Birkin filled to the gills and why not pull her hair in a ponytail at the nap of her neck. Whoever the stylist is should be let go…
Except for the overfilled lower lip, she’s spot on! Good call!
Oh I have zero sympathy for Ryan after seeing these “test shots.”
My god they are worse than a JC Penney catalog shoot. No wonder he got roasted.
I wonder if they can course correct this??
The “wig” is heinous I mean CBK’s blonde was legendary. In quotes bc I’m not sure that’s a wig. That color is what every Texan/alabaman woman w a bad dye job has- white blonde with no dimension or depth. (Sorry not sorry Deep South!) and the ends are a travesty.
My interest in this production has dropped dramatically.
My real sympathy is for the Bessette family….and while I understand the story is about JFK, Jr. and Carolyn, it’s so often lost and forgotten that her sister Lauren Bessette also died in that crash. And that the Kennedy’s closed ranks and kept the Bessette’s out of much of the decision making around the funerals/burials.
I felt so sorry for her mother. And the surviving sister. They had more dignity than the Kennedys over their deaths and never read a word from her mother over what must have been a devastating loss.
I hope Carolyn’s surviving sister is doing well, wherever she is.
Never forget how Ed Schlossberg (Caroline’s husband) treated Carolyn and Lauren’s mother during the funeral arrangements. How he treated her was unforgivable!
Lauren was fabulous and so independently successful. It’s sad that she is just a footnote in this tragedy when she achieved more than her sister and brother-in-law put together.
Even RFK, JR was shocked at how brutal Ed was towards their mother. Considering how RFK, JR has treated the women in his life, it must have been absolutely terrible.
I have no faith in Ryan Murphy doing right by Carolyn. I’m glad that there are some books out there that do write about her good qualities.
I think it was the NY Post but they had a shot of Lauren’s luggage that washed up to short. It had her work number on it. Morbid curiosity me called it to hear her voicemail message. She was a Senior Investment Banker at Morgan Stanley.
Lauren’s voice was so smooth and elegant. I know the Bessette’s did not grow up super rich. Until her mother married their stepfather the surgeon. But these ladies were born with a grace and elegance money can not buy. It was just in their DNA.
I was actually hopeful Ryan would do right by them. But clearly not. 90’s young me is bummed. I so admired Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy and would dream of being like her. Close as I got was overplucked eyebrows.
Those images were so bad. Everything looked so sad, cheap and rumpled. That hair color was just wrong. If the budget should be spent, it definitely should be on Carolyn’s wardrobe. She had such an iconic classic style. Quiet luxury before that was even a thing.
you guys crack me up. You guys give me life. And I agree with all of your points, 100%. I always found Carolyn intriguing because we lived in the same town growing up (she was a decade older) and the media *hated* her. Like, loathed, goaded, despised, and reviled her. Why??? It’s like with Meghan. Burn the witch. I read a few books about her, the latest one came out last summer, and it really seems that her real life personality was pretty much 100% the opposite of the persona she was awarded by the mostly male, mediocre, panting media. Who all fancied her husband. In that kind of I’m-not-gay-bro, I’m just a bro’s bro kind of way. I mean. It’s a great summer read, if you have the time, it’s probably on Amazon. Called Once Upon a Time, IIRC. Worth a read.
I saw someone comment on a pap shot from the set “What in the H&M is Carolyn wearing?” LOLZ. Aren’t Ryan Murphy’s television shows successful? Doesn’t he have the money to dress the actress in actual Calvin Klein clothing? Is it that hard to bring in articles of clothing to the sound stage you are working on?
John was handsome and charismatic. Caroline was interesting and charismatic. The 2 actors, at least from what I see here, are NONE of those things. Caroline had impeccable preppy with a twist style, and would never wear this cheap looking, old navy outlet looking crap. At least put her in banana republic outlet!
Halftime biopic vibe anyone ?
It’s too hard to duplicate their looks because of how good looking they’re perceived to be. Objectively speaking, they were considered better looking than everyone else in the planet. Kim Kardashians would look out of place next to them, despite all the money spent to maintain her looks.
He shouldn’t be surprised. Honestly, every person who plays Diana turns out to be a dud too, even Oscar nominees.
I find it fascinating that people immersed in media are this dumb about public reaction and perception.
I thought Elizabeth Debicki and Emma Corrin were both well received as Diana?
I should have said “in my opinion”most of the Dianas are duds in my eyes.
Yes, they were well-received.
But I think there’s too much footage of Diana around for me to really find anyone truly believable as her. It’s easier to play Cleopatra since there’s no footage of her. I did think Naomi Watts was laughable as Diana and she’s actually a good actress. Don’t get me started on Kristen Stewart..
@Thinking – Yeah, I thought Kristen was playing her comedically. Still not sure to this day if that was supposed to be serious.
It’s the same with President Kennedy, also. The one and only actor who ever pulled it off was the Danish (?) guy they pulled out of nowhere for the Natalie Portman movie in 2017. And they had to use a voiceover for him. I’ve never seen a good Bobby. They got MLK right in Selma, and Denzel nailed Malcolm X, but that only happens every now and then.
Debicki was closest to resembling Diana in looks and mannerism but her seasons were written with Charles getting the whitewashing and so she wasn’t given much to do beyond the tabloid version of Diana.
this is a problem that addles every Kennedy biopic: the real thing always beats the imitation. It’s like what Plato said, art can only ever be an imitation of life. Mimesis. FWIW, I thought that was the brilliant subtext of the Barbie movie. That’s why it hit so deep, it had a seismic impact. Because that’s what it was always really about: the difference between faking it, and …authenticity. Carolyn looks like a Barbie in some superficial ways, but even her wordless image is so much more potent, and intriguing, she had that quality that makes a vogue model distinct from a catalogue girl. BTW there was an auction of some of her old clothes about six months ago in New York at Sotheby’s or Christie’s, they were left to Rose Marie Terenzio, who was John’s assistant, and who wrote a book about working for him. They say no one is a hero to his valet, but he was definitely a hero to his assistant and she comes across as a very street smart, grounded person. Who did not suffer phonies. That is the thing about authenticity: you can’t imitate it. It doesn’t boil down to a type. Either it’s the real thing, or it’s just missing. Like Meghan and Kate, or Harry & William.
RoseMarie’s book is one of my favorites. That book was written with a lot of love. Same with Carole Radziwill’s book and Rob Little’s book.
This definitely has a “NBC weekly movie” vibe to it, doesn’t it?
Is he going to recreate the epic fights they had, and her coke habit? Forgive me but I was a kid back then but nobody I knew thought she was attractive. He had terrible taste….I mean Sarah Jessica.
A coke problem that was rumored and batted around because the press hated Carolyn. They treated her like they treated Lady Diana and now Meghan. Everyone who knew her talked about how, smart, kind, loving and generous she was.
Like you said—you were a kid then.
I think he will, because the videos of the real thing can be seen on YouTube and Instagram. Unfortunately, they were caught fighting openly in a park. They likely made up afterwards in a passionate way, but the video footage is intriguing.
I feel the cocaine thing can’t really be confirmed. The people who talk about it don’t seem trustworthy.
Ryan Murphy is a hack with bad taste. This idea that he makes prestige television is a joke. He makes nighttime soap operas. That’s it.
So this is going to be the Temu version then…got it. No wonder why everything looks off in those photos. I even wondered whether they had a wardrobe budget. If not, they could always go to an upmarket thrift store to find clothes of that era.
I have nothing to add except JFK Jr. was handsome in pics but holy heck, in person had, even more, that indefinable off the charts low key charisma. He spoke at a siblings graduation the summer he passed away; was a small college and he mixed/mingled with the graduates and families. He was on the speakers dais with Woodward or Bernstein (I can never remember which is which) and we all expected JFK, Jr. to be gorgeous but a bit of a dud speaker and the reverse was true. He was engaging and relatable while the other one was boring and clearly impressed with himself.
Being a life long New Yorker. That is my one regret I never saw them in person. I only know one person that saw John on a street corner. He said the woman were swooning around him. He was that good looking.
Around 2001 or 2002 I think? I was at Nobu in Tribeca and saw the apt building they used to live in. It was right next to Nobu. As we were having dinner and could see through the windows. The new owners of the loft they used to live in were outside. Edward Burns and his wife Christy Turlington. They were a spectacularly gorgeous couple also.
JFK Jr is tough to play because it’s rarer to find men that handsome. There are different kinds of male “beauty” and but his kind of handsomeness is deeply associated with physical attributes (both face and body). Other men have to rely on their personalities to be a complete package. I don’t think he had to haha.
And I’m not really sure if his personality is well-known enough to “fill out” a performance. I think only his sister, mother, and the women he had close romantic relationships with would know what he was really like.
I saw him in person quite a few times, my mom worked at 100 Center. He was always so charming. I then almost bumped into him and Darryl Hannah when they were dating. It was early one morning on 8th Street as I headed to NYU. He exuded Charisma. I never saw Carolyn in person, but in truth I recall most were rooting for him and Darryl to get back together. Carolyn was not considered beautiful by most at the time they were dating. Their wedding pictures changed that narrative and most took note of her beauty and style after that. She’s reached legendary status after her death. My memory was that his sister and the Kennedy family were very kind to the Bessette family after the accident. They were acutely tuned in to what a horrendous tragedy it was for Carolyn’s sister and parents. My recollection is that the parents were terribly angry at John for flying in the dark. I think most people thought his over confidence in his abilities killed them. My understanding was that they planned to leave earlier while it was still light, but that Carolyn’s sister was hitching a ride and she was delayed at work so they left much later than originally planned. It was such a senseless accident. I remember them searching the following days for the debris of the plane. My bf who went to Brown a year behind him cried so much,
” My understanding was that they planned to leave earlier while it was still light, but that Carolyn’s sister was hitching a ride and she was delayed at work so they left much later than originally planned.”
Carolyn’s sister Lauren wasn’t late leaving work. Lauren finished work before John and then waiting for John in the lobby of his work building at 6pm. John then invited her up to see the George offices which made them even late. Some of John’s colleagues were still in the office and verified that John showed Lauren around on that fateful Friday evening.
Lauren wasn’t hitching a ride, she already had a seat booked to the vineyard on a commercial airliner but cancelled that and decided to go on John’s plane because John and Carolyn were having major issues and barely speaking to each other.
There has been finger pointing since the day of the accident. I don’t think there was any official answer. It could have been Lauren stuck at work, it could have been traffic. It could have been John and Carolyn arguing. It could have been Carolyn being inpatient and wanting to leave. With John not able to get a co-pilot. Or just thought he could handle it with a 45 minute flight. I have flown to Martha’s Vineyard from JFK. It’s such a quick flight.
It was just a series of mistakes and tragedies that lead to 3 premature deaths.
The weather/visibility that night was lousy. And IIRC, John wasn’t certified for night flying, which is tricky enough without fog/rain.
He was visually rated only and had not flow that type of plane a lot. He was radar/instrument rated.
He had only started taking flying lessons after his mother died. Since she did not want him flying planes.
Ryan Murphy’s bullshit finally caught up with him.
This was a horrible, heart-breaking tragedy and to make some cheap knock-off movie about it is tasteless and gruesome. They were a complicated, beautiful couple and no film production could even touch the complexity, charisma and mystery of their relationship which ended far too soon. I feel sorry for the Bessette family who lost two daughters to have this brought to light in such a tawdry manner. Do a documentary FFS, honour their lives and legacy.
Going by the photos, this is going to be a great Lifetime Movie about Gwyneth Paltrow…
Still photos don’t capture her beauty. I saw a video of her talking and laughing at a social function and in movement she was quite stunning. Charisma. No one can duplicate charisma.
Bad casting for Carolyn, who was very light blonde, very pale-skinned & had light blue eyes. I saw her up close, within arm’s reach a few times & her coloring was unique, nothing like Pidgeon’s.
Agree, Kaiser – appreciate that everyone seemingly made Ryan Murphy course-correct to take this, and them, seriously. Him pretending it was the plan all along is a bit amusing – he had this advisory committee from the beginning but they haven’t signed contracts yet? Is it normal to spend time and money getting and using the fast-fashion versions? and bad wigs?
Kind of funny that this is the straw that broke the camel’s back when all of Murphy’s productions about real people have been terribly cast and styled. Are people finally figuring out that Murphy is just working on vibes ?
Anyone who casts Kardashians as actors is just a hack.
Ryan Murphy is totally the wrong person for this because his entire aesthetic is camp. His shows go for the grotesque n
The aura of JFK Jr and Carolyn Bessette Kennedy is their sophistication and casual insouciance. Murphy hasn’t done one show that demonstrates he understands this concept.
The actress to play Carolyn would have to portray a similar vibe as Gwyneth Paltrow to get it close.
I know many aren’t fans of GP, but her vibe is similar to what Bessette was doing, although to be fair Bessette wasn’t as public of a figure, it was more of an image. That’s part of the mystique too. We didn’t really know what she thought because social media wasn’t around and she was more seen than heard.
Gwyneth copied Carolyn but still doesn’t have what Carolyn had – an air of mystery? I can’t see Carolyn talking about her sex life the way Gwyneth does. We get it Gwynnie, you dated both Brad and Ben!
Carolyn had impeccable style that was timeless and yet very much her own. I think Gwyneth tends to copy trends more, though I guess she has her own weird charisma when she’s talking about candles related to private parts.