For most of this year, the palace communications offices have been issuing talking points about the Duchess of Sussex’s commercial ventures – her cooking show, With Love, Meghan and her As Ever line. The palace line is supposed to be “we want these commercial ventures to be successful because we don’t want Meghan to talk about the Windsors.” Nevermind that the left-behinds can’t keep Meghan’s name out of their mouths, and nevermind that the Windsors have been stalking Meghan’s every move, even following all of her friends and associates on Instagram. Well, someone let the cat out of the bag: would you believe that Prince William and Kate do NOT want Meghan to be successful? Would you believe that William and Kate have been stalking Meghan’s every move so that they can mock her to their friends?
It’s been no secret that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have faced animosity from senior royals since ‘Megxit’. In 2021 the late Queen led the Palace’s response to the Sussexes notorious interview with Oprah Winfrey, where she famously claimed ‘recollections may vary’.
When Harry released his memoir Spare in January 2023, the Firm remained silent and have not commented on any of the revelations revealed inside the book.
But while last month’s ‘peace summit’ suggests relations between the two camps could be warming, privately some of the family’s closest friends have been quite candid about Harry and Meghan.
According to a royal source, friends of Prince William and Kate Middleton allegedly ridiculed Meghan after the announcement of her lifestyle company being rebranded to As Ever in February.
The friends reportedly referred to the Duchess of Sussex’s latest business venture as ‘As If’, as in ‘as if it will take off’, Bella Magazine reported.
One said: ‘It’s caused quite a bit of laughter within the group. WhatsApp messages have been going back and forth. It’s all very budget and rushed. Embarrassing, really.’
“WhatsApp messages have been going back and forth.” Jobless behavior. These are two 40-somethings and parents of three children. The heir to the throne and his health-challenged wife, and they’re obsessively tracking Meghan’s business in California and sending bitchy WhatsApp messages to their friends? I don’t doubt that’s what is really happening, I just think it’s a particularly pathetic admission from Team Wales. Shouldn’t they busy themselves with their own work? Like, Kate hasn’t visited most of her patronages for years. William has spent a good chunk of this year drunk in a ski chalet or drunk on a yacht in the Mediterranean. Do your own jobs and stop obsessing over Meghan.
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As if kkkate has friends, and as if willy is sober enough to form a thought.
That was my first thought. These two have friends?
It will be the Tindall’s – the thug hates Harry.
What friends ? Who ? Where ? William has buddies and ex and current girlfriends . Kate seems to be stuck with mummy. Even her sister has moved on . What a misery ..should we be sorry for her
Exactly! I was just about to say that!
I was thinking this too. Does Kate even have friends to message? Doubtful. She isn’t known to be nice to other women.
Also, shouldn’t Kate be hard at work on her video telling us all about Summer? Even though we are two months in..
It was probably just a whtaspp with Jason let’s be real.
Kate has no friends. She’s never had a real job to this day. The only thing she has, as this is proving: lots of free time, an empty agenda and still that same baby brain, but everybody knew that. Looks like natasha isnt happy and spilling her tea.
Just when you think they couldn’t get any more pathetic, they do .
Goodness me what childish behaviour .
It’s insecurity and jealousy. One would think that they would be happy because the more successful Harry and Meghan are outside of the firm the less likely it is they will return. Which would leave the spotlight for Bill & Cathy. Isn’t that what they wanted?
The only thing surprising is the idea Kate has friends.
The rats are her/their friends. Another cover for them as they Lazy out in August.
Yep.. that was my first reaction.. what’s App to who? Friends?
This is kinda sad and pathetic if it’s true.
‘As if ‘ is what trolls call Meghan’s brand in their hate Reddit group. Since this story comes from low budget Bella magazine I doubt it’s true. It’s just journalists trawling through that Reddit group for story ideas since Meghan has been quiet recently. The Mail is also desperate for stories which is why they picked it up. No one in royal circles is going to leak to little known Bella magazine (Taylor maybe but not Bella which is too downmarket to even be available in the Dentist waiting room).
Very interesting! It could also indicate that the Reddit hate group is being managed by people from Kate and Will’s inner circle.
Ever since it was published how organised and coordinated the Twitter hate campaign against Sussexes is, I thought it has to be coordinated by the palace. It’s too organised to be organic. So I wouldn’t be surprised if its the same case with Reddit group.
I would 100% believe it if a courtier or a royal reporter had a reddit hate account that spread conspiracies about the Sussexes. However, william and kate being childish doesn’t seem that farfetched either.
That’s my thought about this. That they and their staff are commenting in social media platforms like Reddit, Instagram and Twitter to create buzz around Harry and especially Meghan. They even frequent CB in these comments to try and insert a storyline to be picked up by their friends in the media. This is what they’ve been doing for years. That’s why when this article says that they have been quiet in response to anything done or said by Harry and Meghan, it’s a flat out lie. That’s all they’ve done before Harry and Meghan left the UK and all they’ve done since they left. They respond through their media friends with articles like these that happen essentially every single day. We know more about what they think feel, want, plan and believe more than any other person in the world because they communicate through the media daily. That’s the whole purpose of the Royal Rota.
I’m sure the various Meghan hating redditors will be popping their butt zits in rage over this, but as they are part of closed insular forums of nonsense rather than a public website it won’t do them much good.
This is classic bully stuff. ” I spend all my time talking about you, thinking about you, and making fun of you! You’re the real loser!!” I would have been ashamed to admit this at 12 because people would have rightly pointed out the weirdness and hypocrisy of my obsession. And they would have been correct. In junior high.
I know that the press shields them, and they have hired a minimum of ” yes people” to emotionally manage them, but you can’t always hide from the truth. No one coming to your events, getting booed, always going viral for embarrassing things, they see this.
They have both recently been exposed/admitted to being extremely online and given their obsession, you can’t tell me that they’re not both watching TikToks dragging them, or Instagram posts dedicated to their laziness.
And yet and still this is what they are ok with being in the news, true or not. They aren’t going to stop their vacation to go to any VJ events, and they’re spend their time making fun of someone that pays them dust as a bunch of 40-year-olds. Just arrested development all around. Them and their friends.
That was my first thought too. They are small, pathetic bullies. And they are obsessed with Meghan.
How sad that you’re a literal king (and potentially queen consort) in waiting and you are so insecure, petty, bullying, and childish!
Can you imagine how tiresome the Wailses are to be around? In a constant one-sided competition (I’m laughing remembering all the followers they bought just to stay ahead of SussexRoyal back in the day). Throwing tantrums all day. Obsessively copying everything someone else (who you claim to never want to see again) does?
So pathetic.
“jobless behavior” is sending me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pathetic to be that threatened by someone’s success. I hope Meghan makes billions off of As Ever.
LMFAO@ Jobless behavior.
That’s precisely what this is, as I’d expect nothing less from a pair of unemployed, unsatisfied, and deeply petty people.
And an unhappy, miserable, trapped pair.
All that public money and all they do is vent on online forums? How pathetic.
This really isn’t the flex they think it is. What are they – twelve? And if they really want to mock failed businesses, they have no further to look than Kate’s entire family….
Or some charities Kate has been patron of.
Well said. Very well said.
“if they really want to mock failed businesses, they have no further to look than Kate’s entire family….”
James’s marshmallows will forever live in the pantheon of failed royal adjacent businesses – he thought he could sell that? 😂
Its also really pathetic for this to come out now, when As Ever is basically an unqualified success. some growing pains, sure, but undoubtedly successful.
This reeks of jealousy, pettiness and insecurity.
It also reeks of behavior from a family decidedly not “dealing with cancer” because such people would be too busy being grateful for time, family, health, etc. to be obsessed about things like that. I’m not saying that cancer turns one into a saint, but it tends to make people reassess what’s important. Anyway, for me, this is just reason number 99 that the Wales never underwent any serious health issues.
“… this is just reason number 99 that the Wales never underwent any serious health issues.”
Someone posited a theory online that the period when Kate disappeared for awhile after Xmas is related to: 1) Thomas Kingston’s sudden death 2) William cancelling his speech at his Godfather’s memorial service 3) William appearing drunk at an investiture ceremony, 4) Kate’s fake photo of her & her children & 5) Kate returning to public life with a mysterious scar on her forehead. But perhaps that’s all just a conspiracy theory?
@Lungta – I’ll think you’ll find that all manner of things occurred in the fall-out from that poor man’s death.
Oof, embarrassing. Obviously we know they’re not-so-secretly the most deranged of all the haters but considering *HOW DERANGED* Meghan haters are, being painted with the same brush as those nutjobs (and people reasonably thinking it could be true!) is a real picture of their character and mental health. Jobless behaviour indeed.
So, W&K’s “friends” are leaking WhatsApp messages to the tabloids? I don’t think so.
I don’t think it’s friends as much as it’s them and their staff. I’m reminded of the staff member years ago who was caught stalking a pro Sussex page and it turned out that the person was linked to KP. Then we had Kate’s “stylist” just recently revealed as stalking everyone linked to Meghan even those that aren’t even related to fashion. We learned that William is always on social media recently. They were always fixing their numbers with bot farms to make sure that their numbers at KP were always higher than Meghan and Harry’s, even though their numbers were lower than Meghan’s before she even started dating Harry.
Exactly. If W&K had friends (which I don’t believe for a minute), they wouldn’t be leaking WhatsApp messages without William’s approval. Overall, the only thing I believe about this story is that W&K are still talking trash about H&M.
Does keen have friends . Keen is so health challenged only 5 lavish vacations help. Dreadful people.
What does this remind me off? The first time Meghan met these supposedly friends and they found it hilarious to tell tasteless misogynistic and racist jokes. These are probably people who never had to work a minute in their lives for their livelihood. These are just not nice people
We are getting more and more reports about Willi’s real character, not the shine create public person. He is described as demanding and aggressive to his staff, demanding to be called “Sir”. There are also reports that Wiili’s team makes demands for his cousin’s Peter Phillips wedding for Willi to receiving a top-tier place at the ceremony to reflect his position as future King. Willi is just an entitled little c*nt. When they show you who they are, believe them.
If this is untrue then the KP better make sure they put out a statement like yesterday! This article is confirming that W&K are nasty bullies who made Meghan’s life a misery while she was in the UK. Do they not realise how awful this is making them appear?
Anyways, Meghan’s had the last laugh because people can’t get enough of her products and that’s just in the US. When she eventually goes global (*crosses fingers*) their smug grins will be well and truly wiped off their pathetic faces.
I just hope she trolls that excuse for a FQC and releases a PLUM jam in her next product release. Yeah I know Meghan isn’t that petty but, if she did I would laugh louder than when she released the crepe mix! 😆 😆 😆
Lol, plum jam would be perfect – plus, next to apricot, it’s my favorite.
Yeah, I’ve been wondering about Kate’s plum jam recipe. That right there is one example of them being stalkers. They talked about Kate’s jam just as Meghan was about to release hers and thought they were so funny. When really they just looked like petty children obsessed with Meghan.
All that money spent on stalking Willy and social climbing and education and they couldn’t buy her some decent posture.
The recollections may vary goes both ways. No variance when Kate was filmed lunging at Meghan
I’ve not been able to find the lunge video— can someone post it?
Does the Daily Mail think this makes WanK look good? To be in their early 40s and their group of friends spending the entire time whining about Meghan and Harry? It’s giving loser behavior.
Yet we’re supposed to believe these people welcomed Meghan.
💯 to what you said. And to your last part, they have so little self awareness that they can’t connect the dots that admitting this sort of stuff is also an admission that everything Harry and Meghan said was true. They made things completely toxic for her. They did not welcome her with open arms.
Somebody in the BM must have it out for the Waleses to write this. The future king and queen consort of the UK look childish and pathetic. These two should be preparing for the throne, not validating the Oprah interview and Spare.
News to me that mean girl Can’t has friends to do anything with. If this is true than these two are more childish than first thought. This is what they do instead of the “work” that they are paid to do by the taxpayers? Sounds like another palace has outed them for outing Horsilla to cover up their own yacht trip to Greece. It’s “as if “ none of them have two brain cells to think this would look bad no matter who is outing whom.
Imagine Kate and William poking fun at anyone when they are literal laughing stocks because of how lazy they are. Such a pathetic couple and such poor examples for their children. They are both “takers” while Harry and Meghan are “givers,” and “doers.”
I hope this isn’t true. I mean if they want to continue to let Meghan live rent free in their heads, then by all means they can continue to do so. But lord is it pathetic and it’s even more pathetic to admit you’re doing it. I know their base will eat it up but this is truly such laughably childish behaviour from a group of 40 something year olds.
I know they don’t work but you’d think they’d all find something better to occupy their time with.
This is why they can’t work. Too busy posting their poisonous diatribes on internet forums. They must be exhausted!
Does the DM realise how nasty this makes WanK look? is it a deliberate dig at them? or are they so involved in their hate campaign against H and M that they can’t see that they are calling WanK bullies. Now we know the truth about the bullying issue, “recollections may vary,” did the late Queen know that H and M was being bullied by WanK but dare not say so because she felt the need to protect the Crown.
The media has already told us previously that it was Kate who came up with the “recollections may very” part of the statement. Besides we know that the Queen wasn’t privy to all that was happening with the treatment of Harry and Meghan because during the Sandringham Summit, she had to ask if certain things shared during the summit were true. She was also being manipulated by her staff and likely Charles and William because they were making sure that Harry and Meghan didn’t have access to her towards the end of their last year in the UK. She was inviting them to visit with her while her staff, once they found out, were cancelling those visits. There were a number of times when things happened when I personally side eyed William and Kate during that last year. Besides the recollections more than varied when Kate flat out lied about Meghan making her cry. And nowhere in the Oprah interview did Harry and Meghan call any of them racist, it was William who conveniently invited himself to Kate’s engagement that had a staged reporter ask him about racism in the family.
“The friends reportedly referred to the Duchess of Sussex’s latest business venture as ‘As If’, as in ‘as if it will take off’, Bella Magazine reported.”
Yes, it has taken off. How about the Lazy pair? When are they going to take off and finally do the work they are handsomely funded to do?
May the Lazy pair continue to wallow in their hate and jealousy.
How tacky and this comes from her friends who are privately educated in exclusive boarding schools . Is this what they learned in school?
I often wonder about that, especially given that William & Kate are both products of this much vaunted educational system.
It’s a sport to mock Meghan for some people and that includes asever. But you know what? I’m going to root for the person actually putting themselves out there and trying something.
Meghan’s laughing all the way to the bank so they can do whatever lol.
I had my fingers crossed for a lemon curd or orange marmalade but a plum jam would be awesome.
They will never stop with this stupid immature superficial high school talk. People who do this have no class. They are lucky to be part of this arrogant aristocracy whose only goal is to increase their own wealth with other people’s power and work and boredly look down on anyone who isn’t part of their exploitative group of people. There are exceptions, of course, but I don’t see any right there.
“Friends” ha. As if! This is the Middleton family What’s App group.
Very reminiscent of the KP courtiers being so very happy to share their ridiculous nicknames for Harry and Meghan with the press, remember “the Sussex Survivors Club”? Or “Free Harry”? Maybe “Duchess Difficult”? The glee with which they shared these petty and juvenile nicknames told me everything I needed to know about them and their bosses.
This. They also called her the degree wife and me-gain and were happy to brief the press about it. So William and Kate and their team have form for name-calling. Petty, juvenile and unprofessional behavior. And yea, jobless behavior too, lol.
I’m an old but “As IF!” as an insult is from the character Cher in Clueless, right? Like…well before Kate and William’s generation. Do they even know this reference or is there a later one I’m unaware of? Or is this the rota telling on themselves, since most of them are older than Kate and William?
Shades of the whole “OMG South Park Hates The Sussexes!” when no one has paid attention to South Park for nigh on 20 years, it is hardly any kind of barometer of public opinion or zeitgeist. I’m amazed they’re still making content lol. And I imagine today’s young people have no idea who they are so whatever they say about the Sussexes is not even on their radar
Clueless is definitely their generation. I’m dead smack in the middle of Harry and William age wise and Clueless came out the year I turned 13. They would definitely remember that, Cher was 15 in that movie so they should have relatively been the same age.
So we could be a Rota imagination story, but I could totally see them snickering and saying this because it’s 12-year-old behavior as I said in my other comment.
I’m a 1982 baby – so the same age as William and Kate – and 100% that was the Clueless generation. I dont know how popular it was in the UK, but I saw it two or three times in theaters alone.
I received my three bottles of delicious rosé, and there is nothing “budget” or “rushed” about it. The packaging is gorgeous and the wine is delicious.
Watching the world burn is incredibly painful, but watching the House of Windsor collapse as a result of what Charles did to his children’s mother so many years ago is beautiful karma to watch.
Cheers! 🥂
Kate has friends?
Billy and Kitty’s whole relationship with Meghan is waiting to see her fail, trying to make her fail when she doesn’t and then lying that she failed when their sabotage doesn’t work all while they take offense that she didn’t fail. So them gossiping about Meghan in a whatsapp is to be expected. I just pity the staff and acquaintances who have to hear about their endless obsession with their sister in law ad nauseam.
You know what friend group has a ball? The Sussexes. I bet every time Kitty stepped out in her best Meghan wig and fit their friends would text Meghan and Harry and say “she did it again” and laugh. Then when Willy started dressing like Harry?? More laughter. Now Kitty is trying to film commercials and make believe she’s doing the discount version of WLM?? Endless Jokes LMAO.
We are very much not a racist family, says Willy.
Sure, dude.
This whole thing has major Mad Men energy. You know the line:
“I feel bad for you,” says Ginsberg. “I don’t think about you at all,” Don shoots back.
That’s basically Meghan and these haters. They’re out here spiraling on WhatsApp —and she hasn’t said a single word about them in five years.
Imagine being that obsessed with someone who wouldn’t bother to say your name even if prompted. It’s giving one-sided feud. It’s giving “you’re not even a footnote.” It’s giving who’s the real queen of hearts.
I hope Peter and lovely Harriet are taking note of such behaviour. Kate wouldn’t dare with Zara but she might turn such attentions to the new girl in town when bored or jealous.
These are some pathetic grown ass people. They stand on the sidelines, bitch and do nothing.
Daughter of Party Pieces founders thinks As Ever is budget and rushed?
That was my exact thought
Thank you for pointing out the audacity of anyone linked to Party Pieces to use the words rushed and budget to describe anyone else’s business. I remember after Archie’s birth how Ma Middleton tried to use his name in her advertisements for Party Pieces so I went to their website for the first time only to find stuff you’d find at a Dollar Store with Archie’s name on it. I was shocked that the generic and cheap stuff they had was being sold by a FQC’s parents. Most people would have been embarrassed to try and use an infants name to try and bring attention to that sad looking business, but not Ma Middleton.
Imagine being in line to be a literal king, and you think this makes you look good. Pathetic and sad.
“Budget and rushed” oh really????
As opposed to Waity’s wonderful pie charts and videos about the seasons???
As opposed to everything WanK does which is budget and rushed? Sorry I forgot the endless holidays those are never rushed or budget, yes they actually do excel at something.
Lol great point. If Kate had to monetize her work, she would not do well… Also, shouldn’t nature and her brush with mortality be making her a kinder person?
This makes them look stupid, immature and extremely petty. If I were them I’d be shutting this down through channels, whether it’s true or not.
The saying idle hands are the devil playground sums up William and Kate . As Kaiser said , jobless folks with nothing to do because they won’t be called out for it can sit around all day and bitch about someone who actually works. It’s a good thing that these two are living off the taxpayers because these two grifters would starve because they are both too lazy and stupid to hold any job. You would think that someone who claims she had cancer would come out of it a better person.. Kate really is who she is . And Willy is the same . They deserve each other and all the misery that follows them.
Amen to that
William and Kate just reek of class, don’t they.
Hating the sussexes is their whole personality.
Perfect escorts for Trump in September! They can whisper about the lower classes and giggle.
Kate is not intelligent, not nearly as attractive as Meghan, selfish, lazy with no sense of fashion and zero work ethic. Of course all this useless Karen can do is mock Meghan. Same is true of Pegs. Harry is fitter, more popular, more compassionate, and far more accomplished than Pegs. And he’s FREE.
All the sad, lame Waleses can do is attempt to mock two successful people. Mocking them is all they got left. They are incapable of duplicating H&M’s business success. And the real blow is: Harry and Meghan are deeply in love and deliriously happy together. Pegs and Worthless will never experience that with each other. The Wales marriage is a sham. It’s exactly what they deserve.
Kate has friends?
Argh, spying on their WhatsApp group now… 🤣
I’d bet their friends groan when an other day ending in Y rolls around and William whines about his brother. They have to get sick of hearing the same old thing.
I was reading the comments above. Yes W& C have friends. They have the type of hanger on friends who see advantage of kissing the butts of two people who if they are ever crowned could give them honors and titles. That title and what school you go to rules in the U.K. This What’s App chat release was not embarassing to the participants in my opinion it was a loyalty test. To show who is loyal to W&C. If you think they are embarrassed about this guess again. They don’t care. This bullying of Meghan and looking their noses down on her have been going on since Harry took Meghan to his friend’s wedding in the Caribbean.
When your brother sold Nazi marshmallows and now sells dog food, you need to take a few seats.
Republic please!
Won’t and Can’t are such utter LOSERS. As if they will ever be truly liked by anyone genuinely.
They are nothings. They do nothing. They add nothing of substance to the world.