It’s interesting reading the differences between the British coverage and American coverage of the Trumps’ state visit to the UK. The British political media is mostly happy that it’s over and they seem unsettled by how the Windsors ingratiated themselves so thoroughly with the Trumps. The American coverage is more like “well, Trump wants nothing more than to be a despotic king, so he was really impressed with the dumbass carriage ride, I guess.” Everyone’s pointing out that the Trumps were localized, almost entirely, inside and around Windsor Castle. They really didn’t want the Trumps to interact with any of the locals. Meanwhile, the royalists are trying to make it sound like a good thing that Trump is such a huge fan of Prince William, Kate and King Charles. “Nazi-approved” is such a weird flex for British royalty, you know? From Vanity Fair:
The inclusion of Prince William and Princess Kate at such a high level during Trump’s state visit has been “unusual,” according to royal watchers, with both the Prince and Princess of Wales taking on more high-profile roles. As well as greeting President Trump and the first lady at Windsor, which is standard for state visits, William and Catherine were invited to have a private meeting with the Trumps which a Kensington Palace aide described as “warm and friendly.”
“It seems as though Trump has an eye on the future generation,” says Ingrid Seward, editor of Majesty magazine. “He’s obviously genuinely impressed by William and who wouldn’t be impressed by Kate. She looked incredible. It seems a lot of effort has been made for the Trumps and the Waleses to spend some time together on this trip.”
“I would expect that William and Catherine would have been quite touched and maybe a bit taken aback by so many compliments,” adds Seward. “It’s very flattering to have someone as powerful as Trump praising you and treating you like a very special friend. It’s unusual for the Head of State to be that personal, but it’s Trump’s style. The royals have to deal with so many dullards, Trump is actually really refreshing. He’s outspoken and quite exciting to be around because you don’t know what’s going to happen. Catherine looked quite taken aback when he praised her so personally. She looked a bit embarrassed, but that’s Trump. I think the royals are probably amused and bemused by it all.”
During Wednesday’s dinner in Windsor, Trump made a point about being the only US president in history to be granted the privilege of two state visits and joked about hoping he would be the only one to make King Charles laugh.
A source close to the king told Vanity Fair that Charles has said the state visit “could not be better.” Adds the source, “I understand that His Majesty the King is thrilled about the visit and very pleased with the global optics of it all. The Royal Family really did pull out all the stops.”
“The Royal Family really did pull out all the stops” – again, they didn’t have much of a choice. Charles HAD to do all of this, he was outmaneuvered by Keir Starmer and Trump himself. Charles had to roll out the red carpet and entertain a decrepit old white supremacist with shiny objects. The only real choices made for this state visit were about Prince William and Kate. Kate especially didn’t have to be featured so prominently, she didn’t have to agree to sit next to Trump at the banquet (that should have been a job for Camilla), she didn’t have to agree to a solo event with Melania. Choices were also made to push William and Kate aside, especially at the welcoming ceremony, when the Waleses were literally shooed away and kicked off the dais. So… yeah, some interesting things of note happened for hardcore royal-watchers, but the broad strokes of the state visit are that it was “successful” on both sides of the Atlantic.
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- Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales (L), and Britain’s Prince William, Prince of Wales (R), travel in the Semi-State Landau with US Ambassador to the UK, Warren Stephens, and his wife Harriet C Stephens (unseen) during a horse-drawn procession towards Windsor Castle, at the start of a second State Visit for US President Donald Trump, in Windsor, on September 17, 2025. US President Donald Trump arrived in Britain for an unprecedented second State Visit, with the UK government rolling out a royal red carpet welcome to win over the mercurial leader.,Image: 1038113847, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Licenced to i-Images Picture Agency. All Rights Reserved. UK copyright law applies to all print & online publications. i-Images space rates apply to all images. Magazines contact agency for fees before use. Images Single use only then repro fees apply. Info@i-images.co Tel: 07860204379, *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: ADRIAN DENNIS/Avalon
- (left-right) US President Donald Trump, King Charles III and Queen Camilla view items on display during a visit to the Royal Collection exhibition, in the Green Drawing Room at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of the US President’s second state visit to the UK. Picture date: Wednesday September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038137237, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon
- Britain’s King Charles, U.S. President Donald Trump and Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales take their seats to attend the State Banquet during U.S. President Donald Trump’s state visit, at Windsor Castle, in Windsor, Britain, September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038189106, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Phil Noble/Avalon
- Britain’s Catherine, Princess of Wales speaks with U.S. President Donald Trump as they attend the State Banquet during U.S. President Donald Trump’s state visit, at Windsor Castle, in Windsor, Britain, September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038189142, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Phil Noble/Avalon
- The Princess of Wales, US President Donald Trump and King Charles III at the state banquet for the US President and First Lady Melania Trump at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of their second state visit to the UK. Picture date: Wednesday September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038189446, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Yui Mok/Avalon
- US President Donald Trump delivers his speech as King Charles III and the Princess of Wales listen during the state banquet for the US President and First Lady Melania Trump at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of their second state visit to the UK. Picture date: Wednesday September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038189462, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Yui Mok/Avalon
- US President Donald Trump delivers his speech as King Charles III and the Princess of Wales listen during the state banquet for the US President and First Lady Melania Trump at Windsor Castle, Berkshire, on day one of their second state visit to the UK. Picture date: Wednesday September 17, 2025.,Image: 1038189483, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Yui Mok/Avalon
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Flexing with fascists isn’t a good look Charles you fool. Shame on the whole British government & the Windsors for this mess of appeasement.
royalty kowtowing to power
Having so much in common with Trump (grifting, racism, close friendship with child grapists) is probably what they bonded over, and you are correct — it’s not a good look.
Prince Philip must be birling in his grave.
Wow, no one in this country knows or remembers 20th century British history, do they? The most prominent royals of the past to canoodle with Nazis were Prince Edward (later Edward VIII but not for long) and his wife Wallis Simpson. They just loooovvved Hitler, used to hang with him all the time. And although Edward abdicated the throne because they wouldn’t let him marry Simpson and crown her Queen Consort (she’d been previously divorced 3 or 4 times and the crown did not like that), I think when they were styled as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor his brother George VI (Elizabeth II’s dad) kind of put the kibosh on the Hitler and Nazi love. Think there were other royals and aristocrats who loved old Adolf, but I can’t remember who they are,
I trust this tells you what kind of people the British royals are. After all, they called all their “colored” subjects “golliwogs.” Gross, I know.
Birds of a feather. Of course it was a success for the colonizer and the Nazi lover. It’s just all so sick and depressing.
Co-signing.
Charles doing his best to “ save” the monarchy
Trump being Trump.. deranged, rude, completely graceless.
Will KFC be laughing when Trumps jackbooted thugs come marching up Windsor high street?
So much history, so little recall. You can never appease a tyrant.
History will not be kind .
This will live in infamy.
I would feel filthy after being leered at the way Trump looked at Kate all evening. So inappropriate but perhaps that was the point of seeting her next to him. Bait.
So why wasn’t Camilla sitting next to Trump and were were Camilla, Melina and William sitting, it looks most odd.
They were across the table. It looks odd but its actually protocol I think for that kind of setting.
at BP, at state banquets, the main guests (the visiting head of state and the royals) are at a head table that only seats guests on one side, so it looks more like we would expect, with Charles and Camilla next to each other and then the guests fan out from there. and then the other tables have guests on both sides.
But here, the main (only?) table has guests on both sides so its traditional/proper/whatever to have the king sitting in the center and the queen across from him and then the guests of honor kind of fan out from there.
(you see this more clearly in a few episodes of the Crown, lol.)
I think the palace knew exactly what they were doing by placing Kate next to Orange man so he can leer at her all night. With her frozen eyebrows and new blonde extensions, Kate wouldn’t be out of place at maralago. And she just smiles in silence – that’s his favourite type of woman!
Yes, there is lots of royal protocol involved, but if the palace had wanted to, they could have made Camilla or William sit next to the president. They could have planned the tables any way they liked – it’s not like he would notice the difference. I just like to imagine that Camilla was like “Nah, I want to enjoy my dinner – if Kate wants Forest Lodge, she can earn it!”
@Jay they could have, but this is pretty standard seating for these types of formal dinner parties. Playing around too much with the seating arrangements would have ended up being too obvious.
“why wasn’t Camilla sitting next to Trump”
God no! The Brits weren’t stupid. Trump needs a young female for him to ogle over during dinner, who would listen attentively as he prattled on. Cam does not fit that bill. And apparently she can be indiscreet. Can you imagine if she decided to leak to the press that The Orange Felon stinks of urine! Or worse.
Out of curiosity, does anyone have an example of a state visit that did not go successfully? They spent a bunch of money making Trump feel super special and smiled and flattered him. Hard to mess with that.
No unlike royal tours which can turn into disasters state visits are generally so short and so boring and so staged managed that they are always declared successful.
Yes, exactly. They spent a pantload of money, they’d better say it was a success. And diplomacy is a messy thing. It’s not about finding soulmates; it’s about finding common ground, even if it’s just a bunch of tech contracts. And to tell the truth (as I see it), the US has always been a global bully. The difference now is that bully has an ugly face.
On twitter people are posting the Waleses greeting Trump compared with a pic of Edward and Wallis meeting Hitler
And yes Kate tends to fawn over any white man paying her attention but this one posted about her naked pictures….
Those images are going viral on Reddit too. The whole royal experience seems to have gone from pageantry to tacky beauty pageant since Elizabeth died.
Oh that’s not good. Regardless of the rise of right-wing policies being embraced. Being so buddy buddy with Trump won’t age well. And it looks like the engineer of this, the PM, wasn’t invited to many things anyway so the stench is on the Wales’ who already struggle with youth popularity.
the comparison should be made. Something that gets forgotten a lot is that, at least on their first tour of Hitler’s Germany, Edward/David and Wallis went with the blessing of the UK government – Churchill’s son accompanied them. It’s since been painted as the Duke and duchess of Windsor having nazi sympathies and they clearly did, but at least that first tour wasn’t some rogue visit on their part. And that often gets brushed under the rug.
Charles may think this visit went well and I guess it did, but the images are not going to age well.
And seward’s whitewashing of Trump is just disgusting.
I hope Starmer got what he wanted, out of it. Because… oooph.
They didn’t go with the blessings of the uk government. The government tried to stop it and when that failed forbade their diplomats from any high ranking meetings. It was unpopular top down. And Randolph Churchill didn’t accompany him. It was such a cluster—k it has its own, very detailed wiki page.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_tour_of_Germany_by_the_Duke_and_Duchess_of_Windsor
Anne Sebba apparently wrote about Randolph but notes from h is father (that Randolph took) with von Ribbentrop and others show Randolph was in England during the month of the visit.
I am so glad people are making this comparison! History won’t be kind to any of this.
When you consider all the family and political manoeuvres to keep the Duke & Duchess of Windsor away from N*zi reach, and all the evidence of their pro-German sympathies, communications & relationships with them from public knowledge 50+ years ago.
And then you see *this*. The Mango Mussolini actually back IN freaking Windsor Castle having a jolly old time.
That says as much about the drifting toward fascism that society has allowed in the last eighty years. They’ve weaponized the paradox of intolerance into getting themselves accepted.
And also I assume Putin is behind a lot of this, Putin and a lot of cowards.
1 and 2 degrees of separation from Jeffrey Epstein there
The state visit was not a choice for Charles. Visibly enjoying it was. History will not be kind.
Thank you was about to post the same thing. A lot of the images this week were a ‘choice’ and it does not reflect well on the Windsors. Most people do not pay attention to this family in general. The pics from this week won’t age well.
Exactly. Kate and william especially looked like they were having a great time. We have not seen that from them before at state visits.
[quote]“Nazi-approved” is such a weird flex for British royalty, you know?[/quote]
I mean … it really isn’t. It’s BEEN a thing.
I think the political coverage here has been largely on how this was bad timing for Keir Starmer’s Terrible No Good Very Bad Week what with ministerial forced resignations and Peter Mandelson getting kicked out.
Starmer is a dithering idiot who is certainly not capable of being a fearless leader for UK right now. He should have been working towards closer relations with the EU, instead he’s now out there floundering trying to appease the fascist narcissist Felon to get a better deal on tarriffs.
Meanwhile his Govt. is limping towards appeasing the far right Reform Party, even though his Govt. has a strong majority in Parliament!
Starmer is an appeaser, just like Neville Chamberlain was before WWII.
What high profile role did William have?We barely saw him. The visit would have been fine without him. He got very little press coverage even in the UK. Kate got press coverage because of the weird remarks from Trump, her ‘fashion’ and her event with Melania but who is talking about William?
His sugars will later spin that as “William, the statesmen, had the foresight to know the poor optics of joyfully entertaining a Nazi.”
He was Mango Babyfist’s uber driver
I get the need of diplomacy but there is a difference between professionalism and crawling up Trump’s backside. In my humble opinion the UK government and the royals did the latter.
I said it yesterday and I say it today Willi and Kate were exposed as the hypocrite they are, trying pretending to be outraged about uncle Andrew’s connection to Epstein and trying to oust uncle Andrew from the royal family for his connection with Jeffrey Epstein and here he is cosying up to trump who according to Epstein himself was his best friend.
Agree. Boot licking in the submissive position.
Hilarious he thinks these optics were good. SO out of touch with reality. It looked like a tacky banquet for two mafia families.
Is all this bootlicking going to get those reciprocal tariffs off the UK?
If it doesn’t it will have been a complete waste of time.
Doubt it – at least not for long. Appeasement isn’t a great longterm strategy, as the UK should remember.
Let’s not forget that the Royal Family was built on white supremacy so I don’t think they were that uncomfortable being the presence of Trump. And the Royal Family and the aristos were fans of Hitler before he turned his guns and bombs on the UK. All I could think of watching those pictures of the Waleses and the Trump’s is the photos of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor with Hitler.
Posted earlier but wanted to add that as a Canadian watching I was embarrassed for the UK. Maybe it will work out if the tariffs are reduced but who’s to say that he won’t just change his mind. I actually think this past week did a lot of damage to the royal family brand as well as the Uk brand globally. Even aside from just the sheer shame of grovelling to trump it looked out of date, wasteful and frankly kinda silly.
Exactly. Doing this for better tariffs is moot when Trump will change his in a second. He nuked our relationship with Canada, one of our biggest trading partners, on a whim. Any trade deal between the US and UK would be tenuous at best. The UK would be on edge all the damn time, waiting for the other shoe to drop. All of this flattery was a waste of time. Trump is not stable.
Britain couldn’t get the steel tariffs reduced that it so desperately needed so all in all, it was a complete waste of time.
“I have a different perspective on this visit. Charles knew the image would be damaging. The fact that he met with Harry without informing the press allowed him to deflect accusations of racism and place the full weight of it on the Welsh couple. By making Kate the focus of this moment, it ensured that William and Kate would be more deeply associated with the image—an image that will haunt them until their coronation, especially Kate, who has never appeared so happy during a state visit. The photos circulating on Twitter comparing this meeting to Wallis Simpson and David’s visit to Hitler confirm my point of view.”
Interesting. You think he thinks that strategically? His life kind of belies that idea.
Optics? You pal’d around with a fascist pedo r*pist felon dictator who poops his pants. Hooray for you.
If Charles wants Reform to win the next elections, which I suspect he does, then it’s understandable why he’d think the optics are good. He’s not catering to the left, he’s catering to the right wing protesters and the like who gathered in London recently.
Rightly said. After all, royalty is a right wing institution of undeserved privilege, racism, and looting the serfs.
Imagine if this was Harry & Meghan hanging out with Trump & looking so happy, they’d be crucified by the UK tabloids. But because it’s the RF, it’s a good look?? The man who has been found guilty of sexual misconduct, calling Kate beautiful, is something to be celebrated?? Dear lord the RF has never looked tackier.
Does Ingrid sewers see anything in Kate other than a doll? Like why can’t she be about substance, why must it always be about her clothes, her looks. I know I know because it’s who Kate is but is really is sad that it really is all we see and all people see in her . Such a huge platform and her looks and outfits is all she wants to be remembered for.
I suppose the amount of hair she was wearing and not falling over was impressive?
“pulling out all the stops” Really? As someone who pays attention to the State Visits carried out by other Monarchies, incoming and outgoing, none of the staging was unusual. This is what every State Visit should look like
These state visits always “look” great – the horses, the castle, the carriage, etc. But this is basically what they do for every state visit, even for fairly low profile visits from overseas leaders that don’t get a lot of press.
Trump has been going on about how he is the only one to have received this treatment, but it’s really not the case. Even the “two state visits” thing – surely that’s because Trump has actually had two separate presidencies (rather than an unbroken 8 years), and there has also been a change of monarch for the first time in 70 years.
I feel uncomfortable reading the media fawning that Kate looked ‘incredible’. I’m not into body shaming (unlike the media who really really are). But the collective omertà about her emaciated appearance is disturbing. It’s not just about her – she has access to health facilities that others can only dream of – it’s also about the message that’s sent to young girls. I wonder if her husband is aware / trying to do something.
The optics being the images we saw projected onto Windsor Castle?
I agree, those optics were GREAT.
Yes they certainly were.
“He’s obviously genuinely impressed by William and who wouldn’t be impressed by Kate. She looked incredible.“
— That’s it? Her looks?
What else is there, really?
Is there no beginning to her talents? 😂
Well, they gotta spin it into a positive.
It’s like the old adage that business is always “great” when asked, no matter what.
Did anyone witness Kate eat her dinner?
The “global optics” of the end of democracy? Charles know he and his will always be too “special” to experience whatever slavery to a dictator entails. And he will be exiting soon as well.