Princess Kate ‘shudders at the thought’ of living one mile away from Prince Andrew

In late August 2023, the Prince and Princess of Wales made their annual jaunt up to Balmoral. They rarely stay more than a few days, and they usually time their visits around a weekend, so that they can be photographed going to the local church with the rest of the family. In 2023, King Charles reportedly “ordered” William to chauffeur Prince Andrew to church that Sunday. William drove, Andrew rode shotgun, and Kate was in the back. I’m including the Telegraph’s exclusive photo at the end of the post, the one they ran on social media. It was a big moment even then, that William and Kate were visibly lending their support to a man who paid an eight-figure out-of-court settlement to a human-trafficking survivor and rape victim. Afterwards, sources close to Andrew crowed about how pleased he was with the support from Will and Kate. Two years later, and we’re being told that Will and Kate were “forced” into it by King Charles, who apparently “ordered” them to do the photo-op.

In any case, most people don’t buy William’s current tantrums about how much he hates his uncle. They can’t even keep their stories straight about William’s involvement in Andrew’s current catastrophes – either William is barking orders at MPs, or William is on vacation and not part of the ongoing discussions whatsoever. But the people close to William and Kate sure are complaining a great deal about how much they do NOT want to live close to Andrew. The Waleses literally grabbed 150 acres of a public park to make their own taxpayer-funded estate, but they can’t face Degenerate Andy one mile away?

Prince Andrew is facing mounting pressure to quit Royal Lodge before the Prince and Princess of Wales move into their nearby ‘forever home’, it has been claimed. Royal sources have told this newspaper that William and Kate want to move into Forest Lodge in Windsor Great Park before Bonfire Night. The eight-bedroom home is just over a mile from Royal Lodge, where Andrew has lived for more than 20 years, and William is said to want his disgraced uncle out of his 30-room mansion by the time they move in.

Negotiations over the prince’s living arrangements are taking place on a daily basis amid a public outcry after it emerged he only pays a ‘peppercorn rent’ on the lavish property. Andrew cannot legally be evicted from Royal Lodge under the terms of his ‘cast iron’ lease but Palace insiders believe he will inevitably have to move out because of the scale of public anger.

William and Kate are said to be keen to use the half-term break to prepare their children George, 12, Charlotte, ten, and Louis, seven, for their house move.

A source said: ‘Catherine shudders at the thought of living so close to Royal Lodge while Prince Andrew is still in it. William wants him gone before they start to move in next week. It’s not about what Andrew doesn’t want to do anymore. It’s about what he’s going to be told to do.’

The Waleses moved from an apartment in Kensington Palace to Adelaide Cottage, which is just over three miles from Forest Lodge, in August 2022. The MoS has learnt that they had previously wanted to move to Royal Lodge – but Andrew insisted on staying.

‘Them going into Adelaide Cottage was never the plan,’ one well-connected source said last night. ‘But they were forced to because Prince Andrew wouldn’t shift.’ Earlier this year, however, the family set their hearts on Forest Lodge, a Georgian mansion where they hope to raise their children in a more relaxed, rural setting and remain hands-on parents.

Royal Lodge and Forest Lodge are a short walk from each other, with both nestled in quiet corners of Windsor Great Park. Andrew regularly goes horse-riding in the fields and woodland nearby. Sarah Ferguson, Prince Andrew’s ex-wife who also lives in Royal Lodge, was said by one insider to have been excited about the prospect of the Waleses and their young children being neighbours.

[From The Daily Mail]

As the conversation has moved so heavily into “what would it take for Andrew to leave Royal Lodge,” something occurred to me – if William and Kate really wanted to live in RL, why didn’t THEY buy out Andrew’s lease in 2022-23? That’s the conversation with Charles as well – Andrew has telegraphed for the past two years that he would be willing to leave RL, but he will only do so if someone pays him for what he’s put into RL, etc. It wouldn’t be pretty, and it would have been a terrible look for the Waleses, but how is the current situation a better look for the whole family? If anything, this strengthens Andrew’s negotiations to get more money out of Charles. “Well, you know Will and Kate want me out, so why don’t you add another $5 million and I’ll be out by the end of the week.” And at least they’re now admitting that Will and Kate were the ones trying to force Andrew out of RL in the first place. And now his presence might ruin their Forest Lodge move, the poor lazy sausages!

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76 Responses to “Princess Kate ‘shudders at the thought’ of living one mile away from Prince Andrew”

  1. Vs says:

    Didn’t wimbot and mumble say they would rather live near to Andrew than H&M? Was that a lie or is this one a lie? Royalists are really treated as idiots by that family! 😂

    • Smatone99 says:

      💯💯💯 They did
      Kate also said to the rota that walking near Meghan was the hardest thing she’d ever done. But hanging with a p@do is way fine for Kate! But in reality, it is. P%do Andy is like the rest of them and Kate is still desperate to fit in. That’s fitting in.

      So basically all this wails damage control is hilarious and a lie

    • Zia says:

      Lol came here to say this, I love that every story they printed in favour of Andrew as a slight to the Sussexes is coming back to bite them in the a**

    • They have known about the pedo for years and suddenly they are throwing up about having to live so close? GTFO with this for PR tantrum throwing!!

  2. MSJ says:

    What are they talking about? They’ve been happily living close to him for years. The gaslighting is epic. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I believe Adelaide Cottage is closer to Royal Lodge than Forest Lodge is to Royal Lodge. 😳

    • Smatone99 says:

      Adelaide is in the perimeter like RL – so yes, close. FL isn’t hence the millions in security measures and the 150 acre land grab

      • Becks1 says:

        Someone on here said that RL is not in the Windsor perimeter itself which surprised me – but that’s why we have the story of Andrew ramming the gates when they wouldn’t open. But its hard to tell from google maps – it seems to be in Windsor Great Park and not super close to the castle, relatively.

      • Nic919 says:

        RL is outside of the perimeter and FL is pretty close to it.

        The idiocy of this article is that Kate seems to have only had an issue with RL being close to FL once the Giuffre book came out.

        It’s clearly a move they have planned for months and we are going to pretend she didn’t know he would be closer?

    • Nerd says:

      They moved from KP to his proximity after he knowing of the accusations and after he had paid his victim millions.

      • jais says:

        Exactly. Where was the “shuddering” then? Please. They really treat the public like they’re stupid.

    • Me at home says:

      Just last month they were pitching Forest Lodge as Kate’s emotional support home, where she could forget QEIi’s death and precancerous cells. Andrew was there the whole time, and she knew he was a pedo the whole time.

      Dunno if Kate suddenly saw the light about Andrew (“William, Sir, I just realized a pedo is going to live a mile from our tiny little children”) or this is just KP and the tabloids desperate to get her name out there in connection with fake BRF outrage. But it’s all so dumb and obvious.

  3. Ginger says:

    Will and Kate have no problem being pictured with Andrew and Trump. They seem totally fine with those two, it’s Harry and Meghan they have issues with. A half block woman is worse to them than an *cough* alleged *cough* pedophile.

  4. Me at home says:

    Isn’t Forest Lodge about a mile away from Royal Lodge? Plus the Waleses just erected a huge security fence and had trenches dug around Forest Lodge, so there’s zero chance Andrew’s horse is going to wander inside their perimeter. This reads a lot more like Kate and William still want Royal Lodge, and maybe they’re not going to grab it immediately once they force Andrew out (bad optics), but they’ll grab it within a few years for sure.

    But instead we’re supposed to shed a tear for poor Kate in her new mansion.

    • MSJ says:

      They’re gaslighting the public. They’ve been fine with Andrew all along. The Wales love inserting themselves as ‘Saints’ in a narrative. They latch on to any opportunity to elevate themselves. They prefer doing that than public service engagements. They are lazy bandwagoners. 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • jais says:

      They still chose FL, knowing Andrew was nearby. This is performative.

    • Gabby says:

      It’s William who wants Roal Lodge, as he has no intention of moving into Forest Lodge with Kate. And they don’t want the Yorks witnessing their arrangement.

      • Latte says:

        This. They want both for their use, forest Lodge, and Royal lodge

      • jais says:

        Essentially, they want all of Windsor. RL, FL, and AC and FC for future use, maybe for their kids. I’m baffled at why FC and AC is being floated for Andrew and Fergie bc won’t that still be shudder-ably close?

  5. wolfmamma says:

    Anything to get their name on pages.. meanwhile aren’t they on vacation again? Is Willie calling it in?
    Kate shudders at everything ( except Donald Trump apparently ) so nothing new here.

    • sunnyside up says:

      And Donald Trump was a friend of Epstein. Did he do the same sort of thing as Andrew?

    • Gabby says:

      Last we heard about Kate shuddering was in Scobie’s Endgame. She only shudders in regard to her biracial American sister-in-law, who happens to be superior to her in every possible way

  6. Blujfly says:

    If the Wales’ new house and gigantic security spread is only 1 mile from Royal Lodge, aren’t the wales going to refuse to allow any outside renters? It’s going to sit empty indefinitely and fall into ruin. I suppose they might tolerate someone they handpick.

    • Alice says:

      I’d say we’ve been reading performative press around RL for months. My theory, the lazies arranged RL for themselves months ago and the deal was for Andy to go to Forest Lodge. They knew the public wouldn’t allow the evictions and land grab for Andy so they put the Wales’ name to it. We will have a few more weeks of where will he go?! and in the end they’ll give him Forest Lodge cause it’s outside the ring of steel and the Wales’ are a better fit for RL. There are reports this morn that Andy want Frogmore for him and Adelaide for Fergie… so won’t this one big house that the Wales’ paid for be more palatable than giving the pedos two royal residences.. 🤷

    • jais says:

      Or can they land grab another mile and just make one big estate that includes both FL and RL for the Wales. FL seemed like a random choice but maybe it was actually strategic. Oh wow. I can see that. Bc, as you say, RL is only one mile from FL, and with how the Wales are obsessive about their privacy, there ain’t no way they are renting it out to anybody. So what about just combining the two estates somehow and creating one massive estate. William can live in RL and Kate can live in FL but no one would ever now as the whole massive thing would get surrounded by a ring of security. What’s one more mile to land grab really? All in the service of ousting out Andrew. The Wales, they’re so selfless, don’t you know? Or am I giving them too much credit for thinking that far ahead?

  7. Tessa says:

    Keen And scooter had Andrew walking with them and the Wales children on one of the church walks. Fergie needs to not go over to see the Wales if she had any sense

  8. JENNIFER says:

    Did Charles also order him to give Andrew a lift to Balmoral when the queen died, and drive with him in the front seat.
    William should stop gaslighting us.
    He left his brother behind and took Andrew. Smh

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      I remember William and Andrew flew to Balmoral when the queen died then William and Andrew were seen driving through the gates. Yet, William did not wait for his brother. The gaslighting never ends.

    • Nic919 says:

      Exactly. Harry and Meghan were at Frogmore when the Queen passed which meant Harry was nearby for the ride to the airport. But William made sure Andrew was in the car and refused to communicate with his own brother.

  9. Becks1 says:

    They didn’t buy out the lease before moving into AC bc they didn’t have duchy money at that point and it’s clear the late queen and Charles refused to provide additional funding for a house. Remember they first wanted a big estate close to Kate’s parents then royal lodge then ft Belvedere before settling on AC.

    It’s funny to me that we are being reminded they always royal lodge, because it weakens the argument of “will
    And Kate are so anti Andrew.” No they’re pro royal lodge. I’m sure they’re kicking themselves bc if this was two months ago they could have swooped in. Now it will be awkward when they move from forest lodge in a year. But they’ll still do it.

    • Jay says:

      Yup, just bad timing all around for the Wales! First, they didn’t get their first (or second) choices of grand homes. Tragic! Then, they moved to Adelaide
      just before the Queen died and they came into duchy funds, but it would still have been awkward to immediately take over a larger place or buy out royal lodge having just argued that they will be happy once they get Adelaide. Then, rather than buying out Andrew’s lease, they settled on Forest Lodge as their new new “forever home”. . . right before the Andrew scandal blew up again and they could have used the public blowback in their favour. Just magnificent timing all around, clearly they are surrounded by some gold standard advisors.

      Also, I think they will try to pretend they are kicking out Andrew so that Kate can have peace of mind in her long recovery (how can she possibly take her long walks in Naytuh with Andrew around?) or, failing that, they are thinking ahead, renovating royal lodge so that someday their own kids will be able to use it.

      • Kit says:

        I just heard that there was a meeting late last week between William and de York girls. William told both de York girls to get your dad out of RL or your titles are gone too !!

        I can’t wait till de Yorks start to leak and they will just watch !!

    • jais says:

      Okay, I just said this above but what if they just combine the two estates and make one massive big one that includes both RL and FL. It’s just an extra mile of a land grab, lol. Either I’m giving them too much credit or I’m giving them ideas.

      • Jay says:

        Why stop there, lol – I’m sure the eventual goal is the entire Windsor Castle and the surrounding “park”. After all, there will eventually be a need for each Wales child to have their own individual household on the massive estate.

        I know that seems crazy when the children are all still school aged, but it’s succession planning. In 10-12 years, assuming the monarchy is still around, George may be given a place of his own on the grounds as the POW, maybe a smaller place to start off with. Plus, Kate will probably want her parents to have a home close by. You know, to help with the children and Kate’s work life balance – she’s sooooo busy!

        They could also exercise their power by rewarding their favoured relatives (like Zara and Mike) and lackeys (like Jason Knauf) with grace and favour homes, so long as they are loyal. That’s what monarchs have always done, it works!

        What is interesting to me is why the Wales want so badly to move to Forest Lodge this year – if Charles is as sick as has been implied, why not (pardon the bluntness) wait him out? Then presumably they could just commandeer the entire palace and grounds once they get the throne? Why bother to even move in to FL right now and risk negative public opinion if you might just get the lot reasonably soon? That’s something I still don’t have a good explanation for.

      • jais says:

        I mean, yeah, that’s got to be the plan right? Look, after this all dies down, we might eventually hear about FL and RL being combined for whatever xyz reason. And yeah they’ll just keep acquiring more spots in WIndsor to possibly go to their kids one day. I don’t think they want WC as a place to live bc, like KP, there is too much staff around. meetings being held there, people coming in and out and even people living there. So they want places nearby that are completely private except for select staff with NDA’s and then to work out of WC, go there for meetings and investitures but absolutely not to live there. Then they can just scooter over or drive over to WC from FL or RL and helicopter wherever else they need to go from their private estate. If they waited for Charles to pass, there would be pressure for them to just live in WC and I don’t think they want that at all. Work out of WC sure but live there, no. So they actually would have needed to move into FL quickly before Charles passed and call it their forever home to make that happen.

  10. Tessa says:

    The keens can’t work because they must prepare the children for the move. As if they don’t have an army of staff doing the moving for them

    • Blujfly says:

      And they are moving within the same proverbial neighborhood and it has no effect on the children’s friends, school, etc. The kids I am sure couldn’t care less.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Those kids have got to be used to be shuffled among many different homes by now. There’s no need to prep them for this move!

  11. Hypocrisy says:

    The fallout from the leaked emails and the release of “Nobody’s Girl” sure has them scrambling incoherently to clean up the mess they created.. hate to tell them but this clean up is just looking dirtier and more disgusting than ever. They had absolutely no problem with their own children being next to this pedo in a lot of those photos and they chose FL knowing his close proximity to RL where they chose this “forever home” but sure now act all surprised and upset that the pedo (who has a well known valid century long lease) that you have helped protect is going to be living near your soon to be teen age children. If they were truly upset about living next to a pedo they would not have moved there, and if they really wanted to protect their children they certainly wouldn’t have been seen with this pedo in the photo ops or be moving in to a home so close to him. Most parents check the sex offenders registry before making a move, but to knowingly choose to move next to your pedo uncle, and having your children photographed in public near him is a choice I will never understand.. these are not good parents whatsoever.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    According to Kate it was much harder having to walk out next to Meghan to greet the crowds after the Queen’s death. And as others have said she seemingly had no problem living nearer to Andrew at Adelaide Cottage. So, I’m not believing this story.

  13. Layla says:

    There is something deeply disturbing and sinister about KP and W’s constant ability in having the narrative changed to suit their agenda. From the disappearing rural rival stories to throwing Meghan under the bus to having their bullying and racist behaviour buried under barrages of praise and butt licking (*cough* walking downstairs backwards *cough*) about the simplest and stupidest things from the newspapers to this. They way that they are so easily able to erase and twist the true image so it fits into their mold is dictator level sh*t
    Sometimes I feel W&K and even Charles and Camille really do act with the assumption that people, especially the British public (I’m British) are stupid and maybe the clowns that inhale whatever poo the daily fail and the likes throws at them are, and their “derangers” are desperate to believe every single word put out about them to help them sleep at night and feel better about themselves, but for the rest of us that are not stupid, and despite being forced to see these shining headlines literally everywhere you look (magazines and newspapers shoved in our faces whist we’re grocery shopping or stationary shopping or waiting at the airport or our trains)
    We remember you being chummy with Andrew, in the summer, at Easter. Most of us remember it was only weeks ago that the headlines had read about how you were “uncomfortable” at the thought of living so close to a Black woman.
    And it’s very convenient for them that all of this is coming out when they are no where to be seen, so that when they, eventually (whenever that is) come out, all anyone will talk about is how they kept away from it all.
    Despicable
    (I know I’ve rambled a bit but I hope you guys can understand the point I’m trying to make)

    • Me at home says:

      KP has also disappeared most (not all) of the videos of Kate lunging at Meghan. And these days it’s really hard to find the reporting on Jason Knauf faking Meghan’s emails for a judge.

  14. sunnyside up says:

    If William really didn’t want to drive Andrew why didn’t he make him sit in the back and have his wife in the front with him.

  15. Monika says:

    Kate and Willi knew that Andrew would be their neighbour when they chose Forest Lodge as their forever home. There was nothing about being disgusted to have Andrew as a neighbour by KP at the time when the story of the Walses choosing Forest Lodge as their fifth forever home broke. So Kate and Willi spare me your pretence.

  16. Steph says:

    Don’t have time to the comments just yet, but weren’t they saying that the Walses WANTED Adelaide bc it was the perfect size for the family when they moved in? Now it’s they never wanted it. They constantly lie.

    • Blujfly says:

      Yes, and it “required no renovations” just a fresh coat of paint, etc.

    • M says:

      They wanted it until Scooter figured out he couldn’t separate from Kate because she was “sick.” I still don’t think he lives there with them, and it was getting harder to hide, hence a bigger house where he can have his own area but maintain the image of happy family.

  17. Kat says:

    The hardest thing she did was walk next to Meghan??
    The poor little pet needs to live a proper life

    • sunnyside up says:

      She is the one who harmed Meghan, Meghan just stuck up for herself. Perhaps she does have some kind of a conscious. Funnily enough, “the hardest thing I ever did” really is an unpleasant thing to say, and yet she hasn’t been condemned for it.

  18. Tarte Au Citron says:

    Oh poor little Kate. Billionaire royal wife doesn’t like any of her free houses, boo freaking hoo. This spoilt doll will never need to fill out a mortgage application and yet here she is bouncing from house to house and uprooting her kids because she thinks Adelaide has too many bad memories, she felt like a caged animal in KP, Billy Idle’s alledged wandering sceptre has tarnished Anmer, but you know, MAYBE this house will be different!!

    • Eurydice says:

      If Adelaide has bad memories, imagine the memories at Royal Lodge, which has been tainted by Andrew’s grossness all these years.

      • jais says:

        Right?

      • Hypocrisy says:

        Exactly.. you can’t convince me his crimes were only when he was with Epstein.. RL is the last place I would want to live, not enough sage or holy water in the world for that.

      • Jay says:

        Yes, I can’t understand why anyone would want any property that Andrew has lived in! I’ve been baffled for years as to why it seems to be such an in demand royal property! I think I would take a flamethrower to the whole thing and maybe do an exorcism on the ashes just to be sure.

      • QuiteContrary says:

        Yeah, I would need that place to be cleaned and fumigated by an industrial restoration company.

        But then again, nothing short of an exorcism will rid it of its bad vibes.

      • Me at home says:

        For sure. Listen to that former royal protection officer talk about the constant parade of women into Royal Lodge–I’d want the whole place fumigated and the rugs ripped out to remove the Andrew stank.

  19. M says:

    My favorite thing about this website is when the royals talk about how they can’t abide something and you put the photos that prove the contrary. Oh she shudders at the thought? Here’s the pics of her and Andy over the years where she clearly has no issues lmao.

  20. Libra says:

    Royal Lodge for the Middleton family. Large enough for James and family and Pippa and her family to visit and only a short walk from Kate at Forest Lodge.

  21. Dee says:

    She and her family of wigs seem quite comfortable around Andrew.

  22. Linney says:

    It is obvious to me that William wants to move into Royal Lodge. His sudden “outrage” over Andrew is driven by greed. Kate obviously didn’t think Adelaide Cottage was grand enough for her so now she will be at Forest Lodge and William will be at Royal Lodge. I think this has always been their end game. It is interesting how many news site comments are critical of Will and Willnot with this latest scheme. They are not coming off as virtuous and indignant as they hoped.

  23. Harla says:

    My tinfoil tiara theory: once Andrew is out of RL the necessary repairs and renovations will start (to WandK’s specs) and when they are finished we’ll start getting stories about how the “forever home” of Forest Lodge just doesn’t work because…reasons and now poor WandK “have to”, are “forced to” move into Royal Lodge because…reasons.

    • Ciotog says:

      RL is a perfect separation home, as Sarah Ferguson and Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor proved.

    • Jay says:

      Yes. There have been stories for years about the state of royal lodge and the need for extensive repairs, so it’s extremely likely that if they can toss out the Yorks, there could be a multi-year, top-to-bottom renovation (preferably taxpayer funded, of course) with the excuse that someday, eventually, George could want to live there.

  24. sunnyside up says:

    Don’t believe her, Shudders? Royal lodge was there with Andrew in it before they decided on Forest lodge, I don’t believe she cares about early childhood, except perhaps when her children were toddlers. Closing a nature centre for children. Hypocrisy.

  25. VilleRose says:

    I could believe that William is having tantrums because Andrew is finally on the verge of leaving Royal Lodge which is the house he and Kate initially wanted lol. They can’t have it now since they agreed to Forest Lodge. What would it look like if they changed their minds at the last minute when all the money spent on the security upgrades to Forest Lodge have been implemented? But I honestly doubt Kate is really “shuddering” that Andrew lives nearby in any capacity at all. If anything, she and William are both pissed they weren’t patient enough and didn’t just wait it out a few more years before getting Royal Lodge. I bet you in a few years, Kate and William will decide all of a sudden Forest Lodge is “too small” and they need a “bigger house” once the current scandal around Andrew and his real estate drama dies down.

    • Unblinkered says:

      Unless W&K and family (which includes the Middletons, who’ll live in one wing with KM whilst W lives separately in the other wing) move into Royal Lodge straightaway, and Andrew and Fergie move into Forest Lodge apparently nearly fully renovated….
      Whatever has been bartered won’t be what we expect.

  26. QuiteContrary says:

    So we’re to believe that the princess who giggled and preened next to the predator Trump all evening at a state banquet shudders at the thought of being a mile away from Pedrew?

    Pull the other one.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Exactly! She sat next to trump throughout an entire state dinner!!! Even managed to consume some food, I bet!!!

  27. Nerd says:

    William wants to take responsibility for Andrew not using his titles but apparently he doesn’t have any authority to force him out of RL or to not be forced into driving his disgraced uncle, that doesn’t even make sense. They told us through media and their actions that they were perfectly okay with Andrew. The countless articles where they told us that being around a biracial woman was the worst thing for them and they preferred the pedo uncle over them. Even the articles and photos of them driving with and talking with their pedo uncle made it clear that they had no issues with him. They chose to move from KP in September of 2022 to AC which was after Andrew paid millions to VG in February of 2022. They chose to not only move near him in 2022 after this scandal really broke but they are now choosing to move even closer to him now in this additional home.

  28. jferber says:

    If she can gallivant with Trump in public, she can certainly live with Andrew a mile away. Hypocrite bitch (sorry, not sorry).

  29. jferber says:

    And Andrew is more perverse in what way? But Trump has power, so she doesn’t give a shit about his crimes? True.

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