They’re *still* complaining about the Sussexes’ Oz tour during the king’s state visit

Two things. First, I totally called it when I pointed out that royalists were still going to be screaming, crying and throwing up over the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Australian “tour” weeks after the fact. I KNEW that King Charles and Camilla would be standing on American soil and royalists would still be bitching about Harry and Meghan. The second thing, which I did not predict: that Buckingham Palace would lean into the Sussex obsession and try to twist a comparison in Chuck and Cam’s favor. As in, “Charles and Camilla are showing why their way of royal-touring is far superior than the Sussexes’ way!” The fact that a whole-ass royal establishment is clout-chasing Harry and Meghan… well, it speaks volumes. Speaking of, that bonkers “commentator” Lee Cohen has written a (likely palace-commissioned) screed in the Spectator about the Sussexes versus the king. An excerpt:

King Charles III’s state visit to Washington this week is the monarchy executing its core diplomatic function with precision and dignity. In Donald Trump’s Washington, an invitation to an event with the British monarch remains the most sought-after in the city. By stark contrast, the King’s son and daughter-in-law careen around the globe representing no one but themselves. They dress up as royals in a sustained exercise in self-promotion and profiteering that repels observers and belittles the very institution that gave them their platform. One upholds the Crown’s purpose, while the other commodifies it.

The King and Queen travel as invited guests of the US government. President Trump will receive them at the White House. A state dinner follows. The King will address a joint session of Congress – the first British monarch to do so since his mother in 1991. There will be a military review and engagements marking the 250th anniversary of American independence. Every element has been arranged through official channels. Buckingham Palace has published the itinerary. The Foreign Office has underwritten the diplomatic framework. The visit projects British soft power and will act as a balm to a relationship strained by politics. This is the modus operandi of the King and Queen and the working royals, who discharge their obligations with no expectation of personal reward.

Harry and Meghan prefer pantomime. Their recent tour of Australia replicated the pattern set in Nigeria and Colombia last year: private invitations, curated panels, hospital visits and cultural events staged to mimic royal tours. No state banquet. No parliamentary address. No military honors extended as sovereign courtesy. They retain the titles and parade about as if still in service to something other than themselves. The choreography flatters their hosts and sustains their brand. It achieves nothing for Britain.

The timing could scarcely be more provocative. As the King prepares for this delicate state visit to Washington, Harry chooses this moment – during a drop-in visit to Ukraine – to lecture President Trump on the need for America to “step up” and to urge Vladimir Putin to “choose a different course.” Harry holds no office, no mandate and no accountability to any government or public. His assumption of authority on war and peace is not leadership; it is an exercise in self-promotion that crowds out serious diplomacy. One cannot renounce royal obligations, cling to the titles for commercial advantage and then adopt the pose of global statesman whenever it suits. This is the very definition of a grift. It cheapens the Crown’s reputation and insults the public’s intelligence. The present arrangement of privilege without responsibility has grown intolerable.

[From The Spectator]

Um… Harry and Meghan were invited to Nigeria and Colombia by those respective governments. Nigeria’s defense department invited Harry and Meghan to visit to highlight their military and veterans programs. Meghan was honored by local tribes and they gave her royal honors. The Sussexes also visited Colombia at the invitation of government officials, and much like the Nigerian visit, the Sussexes’ agenda was mostly set by and through the government. Granted, the Sussexes’ Australian visit was not organized through the government, nor were they invited by the prime minister. That didn’t need to happen – Harry and Meghan are free to travel and free to represent themselves and their interests wherever they want. You can’t argue that Harry and Meghan have no place in the monarchy while simultaneously arguing that Harry and Meghan must conduct themselves as full-time working royals at all times.

I wanted to cover this because I’ve seen these same talking points being mimicked across royalist media. Versions of “Take that, Harry and Meghan, you could never have the authority and power as a king and his side-chick queen!” Like… you’re the ones making a whole-ass state visit into a referendum on a private tour which happened two weeks ago. The palace is inviting this comparison, right? They actually think this is a “talking point” which works in Charles’ favor??

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30 Responses to “They’re *still* complaining about the Sussexes’ Oz tour during the king’s state visit”

  1. Dee says:

    I am only looking at twitter, but unless I am missing something big, there is very little engagement with what seem to be minimal stories about Charles’s trip.

    Seriously. And as with the example here, a lot of shit out there is leading with *something something Sussexes* just to get eyeballs on the tweet. The Spectator is one of the worst offenders.

    And a lot of the comments are making note of the Sussex obsession in all these Charles stories.

    Honestly, I am surprised how little I am seeing about Charles & Trump. Just me?

    • L4Frimaire says:

      I’m not seeing much on twitter either, except in relation to Epstein. Getting typical Trump news but maybe just the algorithm. They did some silly visit to beehives and people were calling out that Michelle Obama was the one who set that up. I don’t care so they can complain about the Sussexes all they want, and still don’t care about this farce of a trip to do what exactly, I’m not sure.

  2. Dee(2) says:

    The problems with these type of articles is that they always begin from a fallacious point. Harry and Meghan aren’t positioning themselves as representatives of a Royal court, or members of any government committee, or representative of either the US or UK government. Their trips have been framed primarily around their philanthropic or humanitarian efforts, whether that is through Invictus, Archewell, or both.

    The problem is they approach everything as Harry and Meghan were once working royals, and therefore anything they do for the rest of their life must be judged and measured against these expectations, regardless. Which is silly, there’s no other job that after leaving it you are still expected to adhere to company policies and your actions or choices are deemed as a reflection or direct competition with that company ( and should be apologetic about that fact) for the remainder of your life.

    Executive leadership, and middle management jump in between companies in the same sector all the time, and no one expects someone that worked at Reebok to now have to run everything by their former bosses ,and make sure they aren’t outshining them ,since they now work at Nike.

  3. Beth says:

    Good grief – pig ignorant, or what? The Sussexes do NOT use their HRHs commercially and go where they’re invited. QEII said they could do charity work AND earn a living as the Duke & Duchess of Sussex.

    And Harry was invited to give a keynote by the international Kyiv Security Forum (well-received). He was in Ukraine as patron of Invictus and the Halo Trust – third visit in 12 months.

    It’s almost as if this numpty and his ilk think the monarchy is terribly threatened by the Sussexes doing all they do without public money 🤔

  4. Me at home says:

    My local mom’s listserve has a few rabid royalists and one foaming-at-the-mouth racist Meghan hater, and not even these people have started a thread about Charles’ visit. Well, the day’s not over yet.

  5. jais says:

    The whole Trump of it all just makes this whole thing gross. So I can’t take anyone who’s talking up this visit seriously. It’s just gross. Harry and Meghan have never prostrated themselves at the altar of Trump so they’re winning in my book.

  6. Lover says:

    “The King and Queen … discharge their obligations with no expectation of personal reward”

    Then he won’t be needing Balmoral, Sandringham, Windsor Palace, the duchy money, the crown jewels, the head position at the Anglican Church, or a servant to put toothpaste on his toothbrush.

    GMAFB

    • Asantewaa says:

      These royalists are a joke and big hypocrites. Are they expecting Harry and Meghan to work for free? How are they expected to pay for their bills and also feed themselves and their kids?

      • booboocita says:

        Fact is, the royalists don’t want H&M to make money at what they do. They want them impoverished, starved, and begging for the opportunity to come back to the UK and accept whatever crumbs are available. Better yet, they want Meghan and her children impoverished, starved, and literally begging on the street, and Harry back in Frogmore Cottage by himself, paying way more than a peppercorn rent and accepting any abuse doled out by the BRF and the tabs.

        What morons. Even if their marriage hadn’t survived, neither Meghan nor Harry was likely to wind up poor. Both are intelligent, hardworking, and possessed of the kind of charisma that Scooter King and Skeletor can only dream of. They would have landed on their feet somewhere.

    • IdlesAtCranky says:

      Ding ding ding!

      This whole screed is offensive, and as others have said, based on a stupid premise to begin with. But beyond that —

      “The visit projects British soft power and will act as a balm to a relationship strained by politics. This is the modus operandi of the King and Queen and the working royals, who discharge their obligations with no expectation of personal reward.”

      NO EXPECTATION OF PERSONAL REWARD? REALLY??

      Ok, cool! When will we hear news of how and when ALL the Windsors will be transferring ownership of their personal fortunes, their yearly stipends, and their billions of pounds worth of property, art, jewelry etc. back to the UK taxpayers?

      Furthermore, if Charles tries to “balm” Felon47, I expect him to draw back minus some puffy fingers. And if I never hear the term “soft power” again it will be far too damn soon.

  7. YankeeDoodles says:

    EXACTLY. Charles was the one who petitioned George Osborne when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer to raise the revenue share of the Crown Estate payable to the royals, on a personal basis. They now receive 25%. This is detailed in Norman Baker’s brilliant books. The 25% of the Crown estate revenue share has now supplanted the prior funding mechanism, which was the Civil List. The Civil List was a more transparent mechanism, as it listed precise amounts for stipends awarded to each “working” royal, in a transparent fashion, whereas the arrangement now simply funnels a lump sum to the monarch, who disburses money at will to his (or her) family members, according to personal preference. It’s much less accountable and more susceptible to pique, pettifogging, and personal grievance. But it’s also notable that the total sum funnelled to the royals through this new arrangement dwarfs the amounts they used to receive. And this is *in addition* to the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall, which generate income for the monarch and the heir that is not subject to corporation tax. Plus, none of the monarch’s assets are subject to inheritance tax, provided they pass to his (or her) heir directly. I mean. It’s bonkers. But, sure, they do this with no expectation of reward. My god. How do these people write this crap with a straight face?????

    • Beth says:

      Yep. The royal family has MANY commercial enterprises. Shops – profits not all to external charities, including to offset running costs of their vast private estates. And the Duchies admit to being commercially-run and also make money from charities, the military and the NHS, etc, for Charles’ and William’s personal use (£50m annually in total). No corporation tax or capital gains tax and unclear re: income tax paid. That’s on top of the Sovereign Grant and security, btw.

  8. bellatrix says:

    “The present arrangement of privilege without responsibility has grown intolerable.”

    Hear that, William and Kate? Maybe time to skip the next vacay and the school runs… Let’s remember that H&M receive no privilege (funding, housing, etc. etc.) and therefore have NO responsibility to the crown or the people of GB. W&K cannot say the same.

    Yet look who’s out there on the regular. Go figure.

    • IdlesAtCranky says:

      Thank you, @Bellatrix.

      I started to write about that aspect of this horrible garbage, got tangled in my indignation and just erased it.

      You did a great job of laying it out succinctly.

  9. Hypocrisy says:

    See Harry and Meghan you could have been orange diaper kissers just like king Chuck and his mistress turned wife.. I’m sorry but the best thing the Sussex’s did was leave that circus 🎪.

  10. Jan says:

    DC workers are funny, they used the Australian flag instead of the Union Jack, and had to come back take them down. Up to yesterday day a government building still had up an Australian flag.

  11. QuiteContrary says:

    There is NOTHING dignified about a state visit that involves Donald Trump. Charles will inevitably be pulled down into the muck with Trump — Trump does this to everyone with whom he interacts.

  12. Shanta says:

    “There will be a military review and engagements marking the 250th anniversary of American independence”………. why would the king of the country that you broke free from…..review you troops?

    • Heather says:

      Exactly! Does it really project strength that C&C are coming to our “F Off Britain” party? lol

      It projects that Charles has waited 50 years to visit the US as monarch and he was going no matter who or what is in the White House. Pathetic really.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Ooh, will the squeaky tank make its appearance?!

  13. Yeah says:

    This guy and Patricia Heaton should rent a ballroom and dance their folie à deuce. Kid Rock can do the music.

  14. Pebbles says:

    That man is an idiot GB news contributer. When he speaks you can tell he has little intelligence and even lesser relevance. Hes one of those losers who has made his name out of hating on the Sussexes

  15. Amy Bee says:

    Whatever. The guy was better off promoting Charles and Camilla and their visit to the US instead of giving Harry and Meghan more attention.

    • Graphinya Heather says:

      This. It’s the faux outrage. “here is some free publicity you didn’t ask for and I know you’d rather I don’t talk about you at all” served up with a side of “ermahgawd can you believe these attention whores?”

  16. Mtl. Ex.pat says:

    The people who actually have the privilege without their responsibility, are first and foremost, William and Kate. The rest of them do as well, but will and Kate are by far the worst example.

  17. Penelope Cowell Doe says:

    No expectation of personal reward?!
    Does he know how much this couple ‘earns’ in official revenue and less official grifting?

  18. JudyB says:

    First, how does one “dress royally”? I did not see crowns on H&M. Wear ermine robes??

    Second, H&M do not plaster their faces on teapots, China, or tea towels and the thousands of other things that Charles and Camilla sell!! Their gift shops blast you will Royal images and gawdy color! Very tacky, frankly.

  19. Robin Samuels says:

    Charles and Camilla in the company of Trump and Melania is not the newsworthy look the British media wants. Still, it is befitting, Epstein’s comrade, former girlfriend, and Andrew’s brother chatting over a cup of tea. I was in DC Sunday for the Smitsonian Craft Fair. All the Australian flags were replaced. It’s not surprising that someone in this administration didn’t know the difference.
    The Royal visit is not dominating the newsfeed in the USA, but the alleged assassination attempt #2 is still front and center as well as Melania wanting Jimmy Kimmel fired 😂😂. Perhaps better coverage tomorrow. 😎

  20. Magdalena says:

    SOMETHING has happened to the Spectator in recent months, because it never used to fellate the British royal family in this manner. And it has certainly not been using H+M as clickbait in this manner. As recently as last year it was actually criticising the royals and pointing out THEIR grift. I recall at least one article which reported the facts about Harry and Meghan, in stark contrast to other stenographical media in the UK and elsewhere. So what happened? Have Lee Thompson and Jason Knauf developed, erm, undercover, contacts at this publication as well?

    They used to be all about reporting on government matters, including the finances of the royals via taxpayer funding, so what’s changed? Have they replaced their editor with someone from the Daily Mail, the way the Independent (or the i) did?

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