Us Weekly has a curious exclusive about the July 10th Highgrove Summit, where the Duke and Duchess of Sussex brought their children Archie and Lili to Highgrove, to see King Charles and Queen Camilla. We’ve heard that Charles only informed Camilla of the meeting last-minute, and she had to drive from Ray Mill to Highgrove quite quickly. We’ve also heard that the Daily Mail was staked outside Highgrove and they’re very mad that they didn’t get any photos of Meghan and the children. Suffice to say, Camilla is clearly briefing her media allies. I also think Prince William and his office are doing a lot to sow chaos in the reporting around the Highgrove Summit for their own angry-egg reasons. So, let me know who is behind this story, because I think it’s a mixture of palace briefings. Some highlights from Us Weekly:
The Highgrove Summit: According to a source, details of the meeting were carefully planned in advance, with privacy being a top priority. “The staff [at Highgrove] was dismissed before Harry and Meghan and the kids arrived,” reveals the source, noting that only a couple of Charles and Camilla’s closest aides were allowed to remain. “Details were kept under wraps. They didn’t want anything to get out.”
Off limits: The gathering was more low-key family get-together than official sit-down. “Certain topics were off limits,” says the source. “They [all] agreed beforehand that they would not discuss any topics making headlines in the press,” adds the source, “including the court case.”
The main focus was Archie and Lilibet. “The king and queen wanted personal time with their grandchildren, and they wanted it to be lighthearted and positive,” the source reveals. “The point of the meeting was to spend time with them, and that was the only thing on the agenda,” adds the source, noting that having Archie, 7, and Lilibet, 5, in attendance was a nonnegotiable. Charles and Camilla, 79, “would only agree to the meeting if the kids were coming.”
How Harry wasn’t allowed to stay at Buckingham Palace: “Everything the Palace does is planned at least two months in advance,” says the source. “There’s no way they could plan for a guest last minute, and Harry knows that.”
The lack of security for the Sussexes: “[King Charles] has to walk a very fine line,” says the source. “He is Harry’s father and would like to do almost anything to make his son feel comfortable. But as king, he knows even the appearance of influencing security decisions could create political controversy. He sees himself as protecting the family and the crown, but those two goals don’t always align.”
Cautious, scaredy-cat William: Harry’s estranged brother, Prince William, was watching how things played out during the Sussexes’ time in the U.K. Though they were separated by roughly 12 miles at one point — on July 7, Harry attended an Invictus event at Chatham House in London around the same time as William visited The London Welsh School in Hanwell, West London — the siblings did not interact. “William has become cautious,” says the source, adding that rebuilding trust between the brothers is going to require more than a simple conversation.
Kate appreciates that Archie & Lili were in the UK: Still, the source says William and his wife, Princess Kate, both 44, appreciated Meghan’s gesture to bring the kids to meet with Charles. “Kate values harmony, but she also supports where William is emotionally,” shares the source. “She would love for things to come together and be repaired, but will support William and his timeline.”
A very Sussex Christmas?? Given that things went well with Charles and Camilla, there is a chance Harry and Meghan could score an invitation to the royal family’s holiday celebrations. “That idea has been floated as a possibility, so that William and Kate and their kids could see them at the next visit,” says the source. But it remains to be seen whether Harry and William can make progress. “There’s still a lot of hurt, and it’s going to take time to heal,” notes the source. “Meetings can be reassuring, but they won’t change things too dramatically. The relationship between Harry and William will never be what it used to be.”
“The king and queen wanted personal time with their grandchildren…” If this side chick doesn’t get out of my face, I’m going to scream. Camilla is NOT Archie and Lili’s grandmother. They are not HER grandkids. Camilla has no real connection to the Sussexes other than her years-long campaign to disrupt her husband’s relationships with his sons and their children. Camilla has always been a snake in the grass.
Meanwhile, all of the stuff about William and Kate is… interesting, I guess. One might even say that Kate lets William’s incandescent anger lead the way. “Kate values harmony, but she also supports where William is emotionally.” But I thought Kate was angry too? Something something Netflix! Lip gloss! Hugging! Baby brain! How dare Meghan! “The relationship between Harry and William will never be what it used to be.” Well, William physically assaulted Harry, so one would hope that things have changed since then.
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Charles and Camilla are terrible people who will use anything and anyone for clout. Even little kids and that’s what they are trying to do with Lily and Archie.
Harry needs to give up trying to convert his father to logical thinking. He’s a lost cause and his mental health as well as his wife’s will suffer if he doesn’t move forward in my opinion.
Agree. It’s great that he managed to squeeze this meeting out of his dogshit father and he can say at least KC saw the kids. But if he keeps pulling Meghan into these situations that won’t be good. His family have been abusing her non stop.
And they seem to be talking about this quick meeting NON-STOP after complaining about how much Harry supposedly “leaks” info about the dogcrap royal family. The royals are getting tons and tons of stories out of this quick private visit. Meanwhile, Harry and Meghan are appropriately private about it all.
Oh, all the parties know who’s doing the leaking. BP and the media know that Harry knows that they know they are the ones leaking and not him, and there seems to be some gentleman’s agreement not to call them out.
I think it’s a price Harry was willing to pay to bring his kids to see his “father” and that thing he is married to.
They kept it light, pleasant and shallow for an hour and that’s all this was. A one-time event. Box checked and Sussex consciences clean.
I think he’s not calling them out because so far none of the leaking is really meaningful. They didn’t talk about the court case, the children were there, etc. All of that is like…okay, and? I think if something more specific was leaked we would hear some pushback.
Bingo.
Also get their names out of your mouths, Mari Lwyd. Those are DIANA’S grandchildren, not yours.
Stop trying to wear Diana’s skin, you creepy harridan. She was worth a billion of you, Camilla.
Disrespecting diana again.camilla did not give birth to william and harry and had no part in raising them. Charles is close to camillas grandkids but never calls them his grandchildren. Andrew p b is not overlooked.
Camilla also disrespects harry and megha n
Charles and Camilla are quite literally the most two-faced, self-absorbed, sanctimonious hypocrites on the planet. Like, for reals.
IKYFL about ” their” grandchildren! THEIR?!!! You can absolutely have that sort of relationship with a step parent, one who doesn’t turn your bedroom into a closet, mock your wife in public, and generally treat you as an obstacle to their happiness.
And it cracks me up how this briefing always tries to make it seem like things that clearly are none negotiables from Harry and Meghan, were Charles and Camilla’s ideas. Not having the staff there, the kids having to be present, not discussing certain subjects, no photos? Yeah that all sounds like typical BRF behavior.
I think most of this is from Camilla, and maybe some of the, Kate Continued Warrior for Family Harmony stuff is from a courtier that is on Kate’s side from KP.
The rest of the non-negotiables were all clearly things from Harry’s side, but the part about the children is kind of weird since this meeting was always about Charles meeting the grandchildren. This is trying to make it sound like Harry was trying to withhold the grandkids from Charles when it actually felt like that was the whole point – that Harry wanted to introduce his children to his father.
I think this briefing is half Camilla/BP, half KP/Kate. You can see exactly where the line is – William is cautious, Kate values harmony, etc – those are all from someone at KP trying to walk back the narrative of ‘William is a rage monster and Kate refuses to forgive.”
Charles putting Charlotte over to the other side and the male children sit with him.odd
Charlotte should have sat next to charles
I always felt the composition would have been better with Charlotte in the middle. At the very least Camilla could have put an arm around her. She looks like an afterthought.
George looks uncomfortable with Charles. I bet it’s the one and only time he’s sat in his lap.
Camilla ignored those kids and is pals with a man who wrote a nasty comment about their mother. So horrid
The children. Will eventually learn about how camilla and their granddad treated grandmother diana
I think they will be more concerned with how their grandfather and step grandmother treated their parents…
Agree . And they did stay with the Spencer’s so uncle charles would talk about Diana and what she was like which would override what camilla has to say.
I don’t think Camilla is talking to those kids about Diana at all, lmao.
Harry and Meghan could score an invitation to the royal family’s holiday celebrations”
Hahaha 🤣
That coveted royal xmas invitation, that W and K barely tolerate for an hour or two. That Carole once upstaged with her own xmas shooting. But of course H and M could finally catch up with Uncle Andrew or accidentally run into JMiddy’s dogs in the hallway.
yeah, Harry isn’t changing out of his christmas pajamas (you just know that whole family goes to Hanna Andersson for matching jammies, lol) for Sandringham.
Hannas! The best jammies! Every Christmas photo of my kids was in Hannas.💗
And yes, why on Mother Earth would they want to go there for the holidays 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If my parents did all this briefing to the press about seeing their grandkids i would literally never speak to them again. Especially i am hellbent on protecting my children’s privacy.
I thought Harry wanted his children to meet their grandfather, so what is this nonsense that having the children there was a non-negotiable for Charles and his wife?
By trying to make it Charles’ idea, the press have made him look like a kidnapper. Not a good look when his brother is a confirmed pedo and Charles’ own Rolodex is chocka block full of pedos as well.
Palace and press need to learn that shutting up is free, and that it really is in the best interests of themselves personally as well as institutionally to STFU. These briefings are going to cost them the monarchy because they’re losing the scant good will of the people that remains.
H&M won this round and all rounds since 2020. Take the L, BRF, Rota, and haud yer wheesht.
If this was all confidential, where is this information coming from? Everything that is being mentioned in that article are about plans made by Charles and Camilla’s staff because they are the only ones who would know what happened beforehand regarding Charles and Camilla. There is no way I would have a staff that gossipy.
I’ve noticed a slight shift in a few of the recent articles where William’s stance is no longer 100% raging that he never wants to see Harry again and he’s being presented as almost resigned to the fact that a soft reconciliation is inevitable.
I’m speculating about whether someone in the institution has finally gotten through to him that this estrangement with the Sussexes is not a good look and the rage briefings make him look unbalanced, plus he’s probably been made aware that removing the titles is a non starter and needs to kill the “I’m going to remove the titles when I’m King” narrative before he does ascend to lessen the expectations of his most rabid fans.
Oh, to witness Sykes in full meltdown if William does meet with Harry would be such a treat.
Yeah, but it’s not just William’s decision to make. Harry would need to want to meet as well. And for the life of me, I can’t imagine why he would want to.
If harry ever has a remote trusting of scooter those days are long gone.
I am reminded of what omid said that when he worked for us weekly the fluffy family stories were the most popular. It’s been a while since they could do fluffy fan fiction as the story of the BRF for the last few years has mainly been about alleged sex offences, association with convicted paedophiles, arrests, corruption, death, illness, estrangement, rifts, racism, mental health crises etc. and of course dominated by targeting Meghan especially with hate at every turn.
So I think this piece is fan fiction to appeal to a certain crowd in the us & globally about the brf as a family brand. That’s why you have the nonsense about wanting to see grandchildren when we know Charles evicted the family from a secured home in the uk & is blocking security in the uk. That’s why they can’t totally overlook the brothers feud but still have nonsense about Kate the peacemaker who wants harmony despite evidence of how she was a big factor in the disharmony in the family with her crying lie
There’s been pretty much no real insight on this meeting- I can tell most of what has come out has been fiction and anything that’s been in the press has been centred around Camilla’s role at the meeting (such as vanity fair claiming she raced down to be there or people mag saying she’s a non negotiable part of any reunion) so if anything it’s Camilla that’s been at the PR forefront of this meeting.
Something about the way that Camilla is centring herself in reports about this meeting whilst being uncharacteristically tight lipped about it to her press friends is making me doubt that she was even there. It’s like when Harry raced to see his father after the cancer announcement in 2024 (?) and initial reports were that it was Harry and Charles before some press claimed Camilla was also present. It’s also similar to how William’s PR always puts out that he won’t be meeting Harry during any of his uk trips despite no indication that Harry has tried to meet him.
We all know the palace lies and I can see it as being an extension of Camilla’s pr we saw for years about Camilla and Diana’s sons getting along etc before Spare revealed the true insight, for the palace to claim Camilla was present. so if the Sussexes ever discussed this meeting directly in years to come I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that Camilla wasn’t present at all or wasnt present for the entirety of the meeting.
Harry’s team would never allow BP to lie like that; they have issued statements refuting BP’s claims. If Camilla hadn’t been there, Harry’s team would have clarified things long ago. Camilla was also present in 2024; she even left Clarence House with Charles. The only time she wasn’t there was last year, when she was in Scotland. But even then, the Daily Mail still got inside information after that meeting. Clearly, Charles himself was leaking information.
Harry doesn’t care whether they brief that Camilla was there or not. For him, she is irrelevant, so he would not issue any statements about her presence or absence.
What he WILL speak out about is if they make any statements which denigrate his wife, his children or himself. That is why the leakers at BP and KP are being so careful with their insinuations and suppositions, though it appears that the media are becoming impatient at the lack of details and are filling in some of the blanks themselves.
I mean there’s things that the palace has publicly lied about that H&M haven’t corrected until years later such as that ‘joint’ statement that said William hadn’t bullied Harry out and there’s tons of stories from the palace that they have let slide without comment since their 2020 exit. The palace has put out for years that Charles offered Harry BP as a secured place to stay on his uk visits but this year was first time Harry’s spokesperson has pushed back with idea that security issues follow the person not the accommodation
I can see agreeing a statement that Camilla co hosted the family as part of agreed terms such as no leaking and no released photos. It would be part of respecting Camilla’s position as Charles wife etc especially after what Harry wrote in spare.
Camilla might have been in the car when Charles left BP during that 2024 meeting but there were different accounts as to whether she was present in the room during Harry’s meeting with Charles & initial reports said she wasn’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case here or if she only partly attended. It’s just a theory and came about just based on the way Camilla’s PR has been about the Sussex family meeting which is also aligned with the history of happy step family PR until spare.
Yeah the idea that Camilla wasn’t there and this is all a big lie from BP is gaining traction and I’m honestly not sure why. If she wasn’t there, the sussexes absolutely would have refuted it, even if not directly – a “yes the Duke enjoyed spending time with his father” kind of statement. And the reason why I say that IS exactly how Camilla is centering herself in this story – she was there to support and protect Charles, she was there to see her grandchildren (step but whatever), etc. So she is using the meeting AND the Sussex children for her own PR purposes and that’s where Harry would draw the line IMO. He’s not letting Camilla score any PR points in any way shape or form off his children.
ETA the statement about William not bullying Harry that Harry “signed”? That was from KP, not Charles. They have let slide lots of stories since 2020 but not official statements from the palace spokesperson, on the record, like this. It’s not the same as a “palace source” running to the DM or something. That also doesn’t have anything really to do with the BP security issue.
If Camilla wasn’t there someone would know that and would have leaked it because it would be a huge story if BP lied about.
Harry wrote of the Queen (the real one) meeting Archie and Lilibet. He never mentioned that Charles met Lilibet at the Queen’s Jubilee… because he didn’t. There were lots of reports saying how touched he was meeting Lilibet. There were even reports that he kept in touch with his grandkids via Zoom… all LIES.
So Harry does not have to come out and say they are lying.
My guess is that the only time Charles saw Archie was at his baptism, and never again until this meeting.
Camilla likes to wedge herself in between Charles and his sons as she did between Charles and his new young wife.
“having Archie, 7, and Lilibet, 5, in attendance was a nonnegotiable. ”
What a weird thing to say. Is she implying that the king will only meet with Harry if the children are in tow? This time she was not able to alert the media, but next time she will be in a better position.
Camilla was not there.
Charles never met Lilibet during the Queen’s jubilee.
These ridiculous stories have gone from:
– Camilla refusing to meet the Sussexes
– Camilla not present according to the first report from Rebecca English
– Camilla running last minute to see the Sussexes
– Camilla being there to protect Charles and must be at all meetings with the king and his son
– Camilla as witness
– Camilla wanting to see her grandchildren Archie and Lilibet
Camilla wants to be the arbiter of the narrative for these meetings and any future ones.
Even though she was not there, the most important part that everyone is overlooking is that Charles has kept his mouth shut… just like the Queen kept her meeting quiet with Harry and Meghan.
Buckingham Palace did not put out a statement saying that Charles met Lilibet during the Jubilee. That was a talking point put out by Charles’ team, but not an official statement.
Camilla was there. Even Tessa acknowledges that and Tessa loathes Camilla lol. Sussex supporters need to accept that and move on because it doesn’t really matter in the long run besides making us look like crazy conspiracy theorists.
No BP did not put out a statement.
There is no official statement on their website or in their social media.
They may have briefed the media like they did saying the King met Lilibet during the jubilee but it is not official, just gossip.
It’s not that serious to me. I haven’t been on here much to know what people have been saying about the highgrove meeting and I don’t have particularly strong feelings on Camilla meeting the Sussex family.
But not sure why there’s this idea that lying in official statements is beyond the palace.
Under Elizabeth, BP issued at least two statements that Andrew had no sexual contact with Virginia Guiffre. They lied about one of Elizabeth’s hospital admissions even going as far as having a flag up in Windsor castle to pretend the monarch was present. They also clearly lied about Elizabeth and Philip’s conditions prior to their deaths.
Charles’ Clarence House office lied prior to their wedding about Camilla being Princess consort knowing that they had no intention of changing rules for that to be the case and even in 2021 Clarence house was claiming on the record Camilla wouldn’t be Queen. As Richard palmer stated they simply removed that pre wedding statement from their website.
I’m pretty sure everyone knows that that 2022 jubilee statement about Elizabeth wanting Camilla to be Queen consort was directed by Charles rather than Elizabeth. Most recently if i remember right BP under Charles lied about their return to the uk after their Australian tour with it subsequently emerging they did a stop in India. In BP’s response to the bbc after Harry’s BBC 2023 interview over his security, they claimed security was a matter for the home office only which we know is a lie.
C&C hosting the Sussex family is good for the BRF family brand image so why would any palace related person counter it. It’s not out of the realm of possibility to me that there would be agreed terms for this meeting including no leaks, BP getting to release the statement on the meeting etc. I can see Harry going along with a statement that’s pretty harmless even if not totally accurate considering he still wants Charles to stop interfering in his uk security and as long as details of the meeting remained under wraps. And even if Camilla’s camp is embiggening her in the press over this meeting, it’s not like any sensitive or even any real details of the meeting have emerged from these stories including about the kids that would trigger a response. I mean the tabloids are claiming that Camilla was there as a witness because H&M cannot be trusted and I haven’t seen any pushback from the Sussexes on that.
It’s not like this would be the first time Harry went along with something that was helpful for Camilla’s PR but in this case, BP’s account of the meeting, is pretty harmless.
It’s like when Harry & Meghan met Elizabeth in 2022 before their Hague trip. Reports blatantly from Charles camp subsequently insisted that Harry and Meghan had also met Charles and Camilla but Harry only discussed meeting Elizabeth. He could have confirmed or denied that meeting too but has been silent on it. Same with reports of Charles meeting Lilibet in 2022 which Harry has never confirmed or denied even though the Sussexes are usually very responsive where their kids are concerned. That meeting wasn’t stated in a press release but was stated by a senior staffer on the record during a sovereign grant briefing with the bbc and other press present so pretty official as far as palace comms goes.
The highgrove meeting may well have gone as BP have stated and I have no issue with that but as I said i wouldn’t be surprised if Camilla wasn’t present for the whole meeting or at all.
Harry isn’t about to let Camilla touch his children. They know who their grandmother is.
First, the hot take was that Meghan wasn’t there. Now the counter story is that Camilla wasn’t there. Is this really the driving narrative either side wants to champion? Next it will be that only Archie was there while Meghan and Lillibet waited in the car. And for the record, they are ‘the grandkids’.
Camilla was not there.
If she was then every detail of this meeting would have been made public.
She is desperately trying to insert herself after the fact.
Do you see Meghan trying to “prove” she was there?
All the post reports about this meeting have been about Camilla.
You speak with the same authority as every other source or insider. Even if it’s just out of boredom, why waste time arguing over something you can’t prove?
I have no doubt that US Weekly spoke to a British reporter for this story but for the most part this piece is a fantasy. I think the only interest Camilla had in Archie and Lili is what they look like and that’s why she was there. The rest about William and Kate is delusional as they have no interest in those children and I don’t think Christmas at Sandringham will ever become a reality.
I agree! This is fanfiction. I don’t believe the royal family is leaking to US weekly. This is a bored Uk reporter selling fanfiction to a US outlet, by pretending they have an insider.
I don’t believe a word of it!
Their grandfather had not seen them in 2 years, and barely before that, I doubt he would have seen them if they had not come to the UK.
Their “grandparents” could give less of a f**k about them, this is all about crossing it off the list so they can rehabilitate their awful image and talk about it for weeks instead of all the other awful shit in that family.
Weird. It definitely seems as if they are saying that Harry and Meghan with the kids will be back, but he has to be King so he doesn’t care if he can’t stay with them? I don’t know. What a weird article.
My takeaway? That a staff of hundreds cannot manage … a last-minute overnight guest. That’s some crack team ya got there, Charlie.
The narrative that Charles can’t be seen as having influence on Harry’s security is such a lie. We know his rep sits on the board of RAVEC. He, along with William, is the one blocking it and then claiming he can’t be seen as having influence.
That detail struck me, too, as did the apparent agreement beforehand that they would not discuss Harry’s court case. What exactly would there have been to discuss? The lawsuit was against the Fail, not against Charles. Harry’s testimony had wrapped up months ago and the case was all but decided by the time of this visit. I’m just trying to see this article with the eyes of someone who isn’t well-versed in BRF gossip and wondering what they would make of this aside.
Of course, we know why Harry’s lawsuit was a huge deal- he was basically fighting back and exposing his father’s handlers. So, for C and C, they probably did see the lawsuit against the DM as a personal attack. It’s just interesting that someone actually admitted that.
Archie and Lili *Camilla’s* grandchildren??? How grotesque.
I’m glad it’s obvious the leaking is coming from the palace(s). I’m surprised they didn’t break this up into multiple articles, considering how desperate they are. Harry’s next visit, at least, will presumably be in September.
I thought the main condition on both sides was that there would be no briefing to the media about the meeting. So where did this briefing come from? Doesn’t sound like the Sussexes.
All the argy bargy over yanking back a pathetic offer of one night stay at BP and above all, not securing security for Sussexes caused a real backlash here. Hence the sudden desire to see his grandchildren after FOUR years! I was disgusted with Charles on ever level. Given how 78 year old Sam Neill has unexpectedly died of pneumonia despite being successfully treated for cancer, I am relieved for the Sussexes that they did succeed on meeting Charles despite the unnecessary lead up and now these briefings. It is so sad Charles seems unable or unwilling just to have a wholly private relationship with the Sussexes. It really isn’t any body else ‘s business but if you have a contract with BM they do indeed think they own you body and soul.
Charles had every opportunity to visit the kids for years. His poor me attitude is tiresome
I seriously hope there are ghosts and that Diana haunts Camilla to the end of her days. The audacity of Camilla claiming to be a grandparent of Archie and Lili.
There are step-grandparents who have honestly earned their status by loving the little ones in their blended family, but Camilla is not one of them. In fact, she’s done everything in her power to harm Archie’s and Lili’s parents.
Queen Jump Off has got a ton of gall, they are NOT her grandchildren. They have one living grandma and that’s Doria. The audacity of that woman.
This is going to be an unpopular take on the whole Camilla as their grandparent. My bio grandchildren call my ex’s wife (his former side chick) “grandma” and it isn’t a big deal. Also my bonus grandchildren from my second marriage call me grandma not a big deal as well. Technically Camilla is their step grandmother because she is married to their grandfather. Is she a horrible human being? Yes. But so is Charles.
For sure – I think saying grandmother without the step can be OK too, @Nancy. It’s a definite eye-roll coming from Camilla of all people, but on the other hand it puts Archie & Lili into an unprecedented sphere where the queen is claiming them and putting out word that she claims them and cares about them. Maybe I’m ridiculously naive about her intentions – she is an awful human being – but at face value I’m hoping this “royal endorsement” is a plus for the Sussex kids who were being ignored and left in limbo. My hunch is that the kids were really adorable and impressive which is why C & C now want to claim them publicly. Do I think those kids really need these awful people in their lives? No. But Harry is who he is and they are legitimately royal grandchildren and in the line of succession and they absolutely should be respected and cherished.
That woman is not interested in having a relationship with them when she doesn’t like their parents, this is all about her “erasing” Diana who hangs over head like the sword of Damocles, so she claims she’s the grandma. Just like the ONLY reason Chuckles the clown finally met his own grandchildren is because he would crawl over broken glass and through FIRE before he let another Spencer make him look bad. He didn’t want Uncle Charles to be “the hero” here.
I hope Harry knows that his father can’t stand his (Harry) children and he only agreed to meet them because he was getting heat about the security issue and he also knew they were going to visit Uncle Charles Spencer. Charles is a horrible person. Imagine pulling security from under your grandchild at a critical time. Imagine a father telling governments around the world not to give his son protection when he visits other countries. I’m not going to be gaslit into thinking that Charles cares anything about Harry’s kids. Miss me with that story.
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Charles needed to staunch the racist, disinterested grandfather narrative, while Camilla was most interested in checking out Archie and Lili’s skin color. And both C&C need something to leak to their media taskmasters. Any attempt to pretend they give a shit about those youngsters is a joke. Loving grandparents don’t attempt to undermine their grandchildren’s safety and wellbeing. Loving grandparents don’t go out of their way to humiliate their children and in-laws.
But Charles finally saw some of the writing on the wall. This meeting was strictly for Buckingham Palace PR.
The interesting thing for me isn’t what was said, really, but to whom it’s being said. US Weekly is a of course an American celeb-focused outlet, and to me they are trying their best to put a cozy spin on the meeting with what they got from their royal “inside source”. You can see them straining to explain to a US audience that C and C are loving grandparents and so insisted (!) on meeting Archie and Lili, “their” grandchildren. No way in hell that a British publication would have referred to Camilla that way. In addition, US Weekly is trying to pretend like Harry and The Other Brother are somehow going to patch things up and make amends, which might be what a royalist American audience wants to hear, but is definitely not what’s being said in the UK.
I see this as an attempt to try and leverage the Sussexes’ visit to broaden the appeal and soften the monarchy’s image in the USA, where they have continued to lose ground. Yeah, good luck with that.
Well played Cam. She isnt a stupid woman . Its as plain as can be theres no love lost with Willy and Kate who are chafing to be Kjng and Queen and dont mind showing their unseemly haste, waiting like vultures. Theres no better way to give ulcers to the Man who would be King than to make peace with Harry and Meghan . They must have realized that Harry and family have the charisma the royals need, they have skills , a work ethic, accolades, style and are much loved ..but unlike the greedy Waleses , also have no intention of ousting their father. All Harry asked is for his only surviving to meet and know Archie and Lilibet because time waits for no one .it definitely scored a bulls eye ..imagine keeping your own children from ever seeing these lovely little cousins..the jealousy is eating them inside . Time for Cancer Chapter Two
I’d bet 10 bucks that if Charles had a pleasant time at the family meet
up Camilla would have “curated” his opinion into something else, even if it took a bloody fight.
Claiming Archie and Lili as THEIR grandchildren is a new move by Camilla, jamming her foot in the door to keep from being excluded in the future. I suspect advisors like Theo Rycroft (sp?) advised meeting up regardless of Camilla throwing a fit over it, even if it meant she wasn’t there. She wasn’t trusted ahead of time which to me takes her down a peg.
Foot in the door is right.
New headlines:
“Queen Camilla Is a ‘Non-Negotiable’ in Prince Harry’s Reconciliation with King Charles”
This is why she is insisting that she was present at the reunion (she wasn’t), so she can dictate how and when Harry can see his father and narrate the outcome.
I affectionately say of my family, I come from a long line of stinkers. So I learned from the best. Were I a sister to Harry or a relative who loved him, I might suggest that he have a running mantra FOREVER, FOR EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME. My back is healing from when William assaulted me; my back still has a scar from when William assaulted me; I have sought counselling from the PTSD caused by the vicious and sudden assault of my brother. I would never quit, and I would use that answer for everything or always lead with it. Oh, my back is hurting, let me get comfortable. And anyway, Harry did not come from a long line of stinkers; he came from some people who stink.
This is leaks from BP for Camilla and KP for Kate. CAMILLA IS NOT ARCHIE AND LILIBET’S GRANDPARENT. Charles barely deserves the honor of being their grandparent by blood. “The point of the HOUR LONG meeting was to spend LIMITED time with the Sussexes and their children after the public’s outrage about housing, security and the children meeting Charles. It is also to distract from the Sussexes meeting with the Spencers. Archie and Lilibet being there was Harry and Meghan’s nonnegotiable, as was their privacy and no photos. They had already done the same thing with the Queen and have protected their children’s privacy all along, so of course that was one of their nonnegotiables. There’s no reason Harry couldn’t have stayed at BP it’s not as if Charles isn’t king and can’t have someone there when he’s known Harry was going to the UK and was considering staying there. He pays for housing and security for Andrew, he could definitely pay to protect his son, DIL and grandchildren if he was really interested in seeing them. The late Queen had no problem providing a place to stay, security and writing a legal statement for them to keep security, so why can’t Charles? Because he and his horse face wife only want to use Harry, Meghan and their children for PR and as distractions. KATE CAUSED MEGHAN TO HAVE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS, MISCARRY AND SUFFER BECAUSE OF HER WHITE WOMAN TEARS. SHE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT ARCHIE OR LILIBET WHO ARE HER DESPITE ALL THAT SHE CONTINUES TO DO WITH HER RACIST KAREN BUTT.
Charles should have been seeing the sussexes for years now. And gotten to know the kids