Within his BBC News interview on Friday, Prince Harry made it clear that he would love to reconcile with his father and the Windsors, and that he still dreams of visiting the UK with his wife and children, so that his kids can know his homeland. Harry repeatedly stated variations of his desire to “return” and to “reconcile.” Buckingham Palace has decided that this is what they will hold over his head, that there can be no reconciliation as long as he’s telling his story publicly and calling them out in such a huge way. Nevermind that reconciliation hasn’t been on the table in years, and that King Charles evicted his son and grandchildren from their UK home in January 2023, specifically because Charles didn’t want to see any of them. Nevermind that Charles and Harry have not spoken in fourteen months. Suddenly, this BBC interview is the new thing which Harry did which has become the final straw/the reason why there is no coming back. When, actually, Harry did the interview because he knows there’s no coming back. In any case, Roya Nikkhah at the Times published a new piece on Saturday. Some highlights:
Harry stole Princess Charlotte’s thunder! “All this on a day when the royal family hoped their headlines would be celebrating Princess Charlotte’s tenth birthday, with a new photo of her smiling broadly while walking in Cumbria wearing a camouflage-style jacket, and an announcement that the King and Queen will travel to Canada later this month. Oh, Harry. This is not what reconciliation looks like.”
The Windsors are still crying about ‘Spare’: In his world, the main “sticking point”, which has caused years of discord resulting in estrangement from his kin, is “the security issue”. For the rest of the world, and most of his family, it is about so much more. Not least his tell-all book, Spare, so damning of his father, his brother, his stepmother and their teams but also the Sussexes’ numerous interviews airing the grievances that have removed the last shreds of trust that any family communications could ever remain private.
How Harry’s BBC interview went down in Windsor-ville: How has all this gone down with the King and the royal family? As a close friend of Charles’s says: “Harry just sees conspiracy every time a decision doesn’t go in his direction. He is like a gambler in a casino who can’t walk away — he just doubles down. Even when he speaks of reconciliation, it is laced with threats and anger. It’s not that the King won’t speak to him — it’s that he can’t. How can you have a private and delicate conversation when you know it is going to end up on a news special within hours? Perhaps if he tried to earn rather than demand a reconciliation, things might go a little better for him. It’s just very tragic.”
Harry’s poll numbers are down! Despite warmer words publicly issued from the royals this side of the pond, neither side has played a perfect hand. Painful mistakes have been made on both sides along the way, with lasting repercussions, but it is Harry that has lost most, not just in the courts, but in the court of public opinion. A YouGov poll published just after Friday’s ruling found that the public’s sympathies are moving away from his narrative, and towards the monarchy’s. The poll of 6,020 adults asked whether the public felt the royal family had treated Harry “fairly or unfairly” and 46 per cent said “fairly” (23 per cent said unfairly, 31 per cent said don’t know).
Harry stole WWII’s thunder! For Harry to go on the attack again with more missiles, just as his father and family prepare to honour veterans with a week of VE Day 80th anniversary events, goes to the very heart of what he keeps getting wrong. On Monday, as the royal family assemble on the Buckingham Palace balcony to honour those who fought for and secured our freedom, the prince’s latest outburst means that for many watching, family discord and those absent from the balcony will be the background noise, despite the roar of an RAF flypast. Much as Harry talks of “forgiveness”, that is something his family will not forgive. Harry, himself a veteran of two tours of Afghanistan with a decade of military service under his belt, knows full well how this latest storm cloud from California will overshadow the King and commander-in-chief’s horizon. Charles and his family will do their best to commemorate the guns finally falling silent across Europe 80 years ago. But for the monarchy, after a long, painful, personal war, there is still no ceasefire.
While I edited this out, Nikkhah went off on a strange tangent, quoting statements from QEII and King Charles in which they both said publicly that they wished the Sussexes well as they built their lives overseas. I guess Nikkhah couldn’t find an unnamed palace aide who would even bother denying the truth we’ve seen with our own eyes: that the original plan was to get Harry back, broke and divorced. When that plan failed, the new plan became “public banishment, humiliation, and a global hate campaign to destroy the Sussexes.” And all of the “but Harry might leak conversations!?!?!” Jesus. These people send their minions out on a daily basis to make unhinged comments about Harry and Meghan, but every time Harry opens his mouth for any reason, it’s declared a national emergency. Anyway, I’m glad Harry got all of that off his chest and I hope people see Charles’s nondenials and sleight-of-hand briefings for what they are: admissions that much of what Harry said was true.
Photos courtesy of BBC News and CBS, Avalon Red.
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All across social media, ppl are bashing Charles and the Royal family.
The Royal Rota, at the behest of the Palace, can write whatever they want, but the people are with Harry/Meghan.
Harry’s eloquent interview is right up there with Diana’s Bashir interview in how DEVASTATING it is to Charles and the Royals. It also showed how savvy and smart Harry has become, choosing his words carefully, for maximum effect. Instead of saying “Archie and Lili” he said “my father’s grandchildren.”
The Royals look Oh So Bad but they may not realize it while in their “yes-men” bubble.
I agree 💯 percent. Chuckles can do whatever the hell he wants because he is the King but they want us to believe he can’t because Harry would talk about any conversation they would have? In all reality it’s Chuckles that talks and has his minions and bedmates write articles about the conversations which they spin in Chuckles favor.
Harry is done shutting up to protect those who obviously want to harm him. Release the TRUTH harry! but unfortunately he expects no reconciliation.
This is spot on. One of the most devastating interviews against the royal family ever. But also extremely smart. Harry knows he will never see his father alive again. He may also choose not to risk his safety going to the funeral. And 100’s of nasty ROTA stories will never be able to change the truth laid out in Court. The family is fine if he is hurt or killed so he is safer being banished. Period. This was an eloquent goodbye to his family if they refuse to change. And no one expects them to change.
Well said.
I took it as a good bye as well.. it was a great interview I’ve watched it twice now on YouTube and I’m not the only one watching.. the viewing number grew a lot in a day.
Harry including the bit about the royals not wanting to provide security to Meghan when they got engaged was brilliant. It removes the argument of “well they left the Firm” or “what did they expect after the Oprah interview?” He made it clear that they NEVER wanted to protect her, not even to the extent they protect someone like Sophie, who may have be the daughter in law of the queen but Edward is so far down the line of succession at this point that he will never be king obviously.
It just shows that the royals never welcomed Meghan and she was always meant to be a temporary blip in Harry’s life.
It was all about Charley thinking it was his time to shine, but unfortunately for him, more attention grabbing , interesting people came along , and his ego could not handle being overshadowed yet again, to the grotesque extent of enabling danger to his child and grandchildren.
His monstrous ego – or denial of how people don’t love him, for himself is his overriding feeling and his life’s legacy.
I’m actually glad that Charles and the rf are acting this way. I’m sad that it makes Harry sad. But I’m hoping this will be the thing he needs to finally move on. This family is legit evil. When I heard that the rf signaled to other countries not to protect them..I just couldn’t comprehend it I’m sorry.
Charles has shown himself over and over to be a terrible person. He is selfish, petty, and vain. He doesn’t want Harry and Meghan to come back because he doesn’t want to overshadowed by them. It’s Diana part two. As for the timing, was Harry supposed wait until it was a convenient time for the royals to discuss the breaking news about his trial?
The royals don’t want to be overshadowed? Those dullards are so boring that the only way Harry and Meghan could not overshadow them is if they rolled over and played dead.
Charles has guaranteed that neither Harry nor Meghan will come to his – soon to be funeral. The saddest (and funniest?) part is that this will be a major part of the UK press conversation , instead of focusing on the life and achievements of Charles the Third, as would normally occur
All the comments I see under the YouTube Video are negative toward Harry.. so many people have been brainwashed to hate. I wish it was as you say.
Meanwhile the Daily Mail and it’s sickening minions keep pushing their Charles & Royal Family vs Harry/Megs narrative and through their subsidiaries. Awful rag and media environment. Their commenters (obvious some are bots but also the Daily Fail usual suspects brigade) display their sickening devotion to this deeply corrupt family and institution. I wonder how much of their skulduggery with property developments through overseas shell companies came out… was it reported in the Panama Papers? It’s also worrisome when combined with the David Icke ab-se allegations, although I know not a lot of people take him seriously. However there are definitely a lot of strange rumours, and when you consider what’s obviously the case with the bumbling Andrew… it’s hard not to connect the dots. Wonder if Harry finally decided to tug at the curtains due to time running out.
The wails need to stop using their kids birthdays to slam harry. They are the ones to look bad using their kids not harry. The court did not set up the calendar noting birthday s. Of those children. It is forgotten that William skipped out on charlottes birthday to go to a,sports event.
Following the news I know there are a lot of things lacking in the UK. But there seem to be an abundance of final straws, final nails (in coffins), and olive branches… Happy for Harry that he’s owning a lot of actual olive trees!
Turn those olives into oil!
Actually, olive trees are not the greatest idea as the Sussexes live in a high fire danger area. My parents have lived in that neighborhood for 30+ years and have been evacuated 4 times. My mom was sooooo bummed when they had to tear down a eucalyptus tree because of the fire danger.
You forgot the many bridges that have been burnt.
Yes!!! Is the Times becoming a tabloid??! Seriously what kind of bs is “Harry stole Princess Charlotte’s thunder”??? This Royal Nikki person needs to go back to journalism school.
I can’t understand their logic. It’s them who chose to ignore her birthday and focus on Harry…nobody forced them…not to mention the ridiculousness of the argument that everything has to stop because of one royal child’s birthday.
The Times is supposed to be an intelligent newspaper, at least it was before Murdoch got his hands on it.
The Times is owned by Murdoch so🤷♀️. Not exactly a beacon of goodness. But yeah that line about Harry stealing charlotte’s thunder is inane and cringey. Are these writers not ashamed? Lol, clearly not. And please, William was out there briefing to the DB that he was going to strip the Sussexes of their titles the day before so was he not stepping on his daughter’s birthday “thunder”? And honestly it’s better in the long run. There is no need for a 10 yr old little girl to have her full-face plastered all over the tabloid covers. Gross.
Even worse he stole WW11’s thunder. That’s a new one.
@Barb It made up for Willy ignoring WW1 when Anne went to Türkiye instead.
@Tessa I recall all the outrage on this site when the coronation was scheduled on Archie’s birthday. Are the rules not the same for Harry?
I’d agree except no one here thought Archie’s “Thunder” was being stolen. They thought it was just a snub from Charles personally in hopes Harry wouldn’t come. I never agreed with the birthday outrage myself but gossipers being affronted by a grandfather scheduling a major event on his grandsons birthday and a supposedly prestigious newspaper claiming a ten year old was upstaged by her uncle’s interview are pretty different imo.
The interview was timed to react to the court judgment. Harry isn’t in charge of when a court will hand down a judgment
That Harry, he’s powerful. He can make people forget that a 6 year war happened. (massive eyeroll) I hope it makes them feel better that the people YouGov hand picks to answer a survey are more sympathetic to them. And, if they have so MANY more people who see their side and are royalists, why are these people paying any attention to Harry so they can be overshadowed? If the people are fans they should be following their favorites and ignoring H&M.
The Windsors are afraid that when they go on that balcony for VE Day, they’ll see the displeasure of the populace.
Exactly! People should show up to that one, and other such events wearing a blue or other color arm band, signifying support for Good King Harry!
Those yellow signs do scare them and I love that they follow the left overs all over that island.
They deserve all the ire for what they’ve done to the Sussex family & Diana.
There comes a point where you just have to let it go. He has tried to reconcile, they don’t want to so fuck ‘em.
Agree. I wish he wouldn’t have said how he wanted reconciliation – especially with all of them. It just feeds in to their false narrative that he’s weak and unhappy. It’s like a cult – as long as the left behinds choose that, they’re not worth bothering about because their first loyalty will always be to the cult over everything else…Harry & Meghan are thriving – and I hope he is finally able to move on…
I feel referencing reconciliation was very strategic on Harry’s part. The number of truth bombs he shared from this review then referencing reconciliation was chiefs kiss. He knows this is not going to happen and I question whether he wants it but it places the ownership on his birth family. The gutter rats are going to spend whatever he says regardless to what he says
It’s time for Harry to make a clean break with the toxic Windsors. He doesn’t need them. I know from personal experience what it’s like to have a toxic family.
Those popularity polls are a joke. Charles really has no excuse
Why is Roya crowing about a poll that shows that less than 50 % of the public support the royals’ decision? 54% either don’t know or support Harry. I’d hardly say that was an overwhelming victory. Seems many people are undecided despite the continuous anti Harry propaganda pushed out by the UK media.
That sample was suspiciously small, as well.
I mean is anyone surprised by these idiots?? Harry should make peace like many immigrants from war torn country, that they can never go back. I dont know why everyone applauding the statements. Even if these Windsor kill someone in broad daylight , these dreangers and spin doctor will make them look innocent. He should have avoided the interview , honestly outside of royal follower, he comes across not very good .
I know elon must and other billionaire have armer security . Why cant harry security are not armed ??
Why do you think he shouldn’t have spoken and gotten the truth out there on the record? I think that is his goal and not how he comes across to random people.
Reminds me of Sophie’s car which killed an old woman. Swept under the carpet. Same with Philip. So many deaths.
Armed security is not allowed in the uk. Only the police can carry arms. Who are we to tell Harry he should never visit his home country! Harry did the interview for the historical record. It will become more important than the Oprah interview in years to come when people are reviewing how the Windor’s treated Harry and Meghan. In the short term the British media will gaslight but Harry’s words will stand the test of time. People who say he shouldn’t speak out or put things on the record are very short sighted and obsessed with tabloid headlines.
I’d be very surprised if the the royals don’t have armed security.
@CIOTOG the royals armed security is the police protection officers. No other security is allowed to carry arms. Gun laws are very strict in the UK.
The royals do have armed security, which is part of the reason Harry wants to be able to use RPOs when in the UK.
They do have armed security via RAVEC and the MET. But unlike the US where everyone has guns, ordinary people can’t buy and carry arms. Likewise, the security folks that Harry brings with him are not allowed to carry arms in the UK because they are not part of the RAVEC/MET police force. That’s why Harry wanted to reimburse the MET for any security expenses he incurs when he comes to Bitter Island but RAVEC refused his offer. The only time he’ll get protection is if he’s requested to come to the UK for official royal business. Any other visit undergoes a month long approval process and will inevitably be turned down.
The funny thing about the VE Day stuff is that 80 isn’t any anniversary where they would do a big celebration/commemoration, it’s just that Charles knows this is the only one he’ll probably be around for and that he needs and wants the big ceremonial pomp that goes with royalty. You cannot convince me that this isn’t just a big PR exercise for him and the government to provide some distraction and get some good stories and photos.
What I love about these balcony appearances for Chuck is how unpopular he is compared to his mother.
I hope Republic makes a strong showing.
It’s no more “die for king and country” anymore…would you die for this vainful king? His lazy heir?
The VE Day commemoration is not just for the BRF, it’s also for the veterans who took part in liberating Europe in 1945. There are very few of them left and in another 10 years (or even 5 years) there will be none of them left.
It’s so tiring hearing that Harry stole “royal item du jour”’s thunder when the newspapers could just not put Harry on the front page. But they make that decision which over shadows any Royal news and we all know why.
We also all know that the King won’t speak to Harry, not that he “”can’t””
Yup, those rats do make a choice.
Harry is popular, Chuck is not.
Chuckles, you jelly little marble.
We all know bullies always scream “SNITCH!” because having their actions called out might result in them having to stop. You are externalizing your poor self-image by aiming to shame, humiliate, and abuse your son and his family. It’s whack.
Seriously, PC, you need to “look within” yourself so that you can grow. Yes, you lack RIZ. Why don’t you use some of that colonialist blood money to buy yourself some skills? To learn to become charismatic such that you feel secure enough to build normal family relations?
I promise you will be happier and more fulfilled if you do the hard work.
Cry harder Roya. Any private conversation of Harry with his dad ends up with you. 🥱
Anyway, Chuck shows what an ineffective piss weak person he is hiding behind the institutional machinery to condemn his son. What a legacy.
But she’s got “sources” and “insiders” to corroborate her claims.
Must be legitimate then! 😂 so these people are also cowards, like their King.
I was rubbernecking the Daily Fail comment sections and actually created an account to counter some of the typically unhinged responses and mine were taken down within seconds if I included certain words. The words not passing: grandchildren, Frogmore, royal household and RAVEC.
If they’re censoring, it means they know a substantial portion of the comments will be negative towards Charles and positive about Harry’s statement.
They are censoring at dm. I report a selection of vile comments and none are removed.
Same, I’ve reported obscene and threatening comments and they remain up. Hope Harry sues the Fail for inciting hate and violence as part of his upcoming case against the Fail.
5 million upvoted on negative comments about the sussexes dm must have a computer system churning out upvoted
They go too far, are we really supposed to believe that that many people read the royal stories.
The fail have censored and manipulated comments since it started online and they have bot farms promoting their pov. No one takes their comments seriously. 6 million likes? That’s a joke. They can manipulate that any way they want. It’s all lies.
The NY Times had a good article in 2020 about how the Wales use bot farms. Apparently $330 in 2020 could buy you more than 3,500 comments, 25,000 likes and 5,000 followers. A pittance to the Wales, and why it’s pointless to try with your own comments to stem the bot tidal wave on the Daily Fail. https://www.celebitchy.com/653982/nyt_the_cambridges_are_buying_bot-followers_to_compete_with_the_sussexes/
You know it’s bad when they unleash a flurry of denials through royal insiders. Lol. Ain’t no one buying it. The king looks like an absolutely cold human being and a terrible father. It”s also become clear that the king lies about the power that he wields. And the govt is okay with that. But whatever. Once the dust settles, all these writers will also have to deal with the fact that the Sussex family will never be visiting England. No cute articles about Archie and Lili coming to visit. They’ll have to make do with the drab ones.
I was just musing that we will never be rid of tRump until all of supporters have seen the truth and maybe it’s the same for the monarchy? I don’t know how much more it will take, but I’m ready!
Charles is a weak pathetic man. This issue stemmed from the intense backlash he got when Diana died since then he’s been controlled by the papers and courtiers that’s why he cannot help Harry unless the papers tell him too. The entire family is being held hostage by the tabloids. I feel for Harry but if it were me this is the end, you can’t love anyone who wants your kids dead. When the hysteria dies down I believe he can bring his kids to the UK but not now. He needs to stop sitting by the phone waiting and cut them off once and for all. Attend Charles funeral and that’s it
Is he invited to the funeral? I’m sure Willy won’t want him there.
I hope by then Harry will have found some acceptance about the fact that Charles would be comfortable with Harry’s wife and children harmed and decides to skip the funeral. I have no idea how it works, could Harry be held hostage in the UK if he attended the funeral?
Yeah bundling him in the car never to be seen again is an oft-tried tactic and at this stage, the Palaces can’t be trusted that they won’t do harm to Harry.
@Beverly no the UK is not a police state. No one can hold him hostage he’s not a criminal.
@Beverly — England is not North Korea. No, Harry and his family can’t be held hostage. That being said, the royal family certainly has long tentacles that can unleash some very unsavory people on the Sussexes, give away their locations, incite hate campaigns, etc. and let nature take its course via the derangers. I wonder what’s going to happen when Harry is in Birmingham for the Invictus Games? I doubt Meghan and the kids will show up.
The short answer is no, Britain is not a prison, but technically if Archie were here he could be held because of the succession, the King is the official guardian of the first six in line and when William becomes King so could Lilibet.
Exactly. I’m pretty sure that when someone tries to kill you, the relationship is over.
I don’t know if he can attend the funeral. I mean doesn’t he need to give 30 days notice? Might not be worth it . Send them a condolence card. That’s good enough for the Cold one inside and out. After all that’s the way he lived , so it’s how he should be remembered.
I think Charles’s funeral would be considered a royal event so he’d be under the protection of the MET along with the other family members. But the Rotweiler doesn’t even deserve a condolence card or a bouquet of wilted dandilions.
Harry and Meghan will be criticised if they don’t attend the funeral. It will be up to William if they get security.
For all the Palace briefings, their official statement was weak and they haven’t denied anything that Harry said in that interview. Harry did the right thing by speaking out. He’s put everything out there so the Palace can’t rewrite history. I don’t believe Diana refused security the Palace took it away.
Once again, typical DARVO.
Like the MAGAts, every Royal accusation is a confession. It ain’t Harry who can’t be trusted to keep communications private, lol.
What I keep coming back to over and over again is that no matter how much Charles The Cruel, the Mistress Queen and Billy Idle stomp their feet and scream, they have not and cannot show that Harry lies. Because he doesn’t.
That is his unforgivable sin. He tells the truth in public. And these people cannot afford to have their subjects see and believe the truth about them.
Exactly right. They’ve mocked H&M endlessly for wanting their privacy, but who’s crying about privacy now? Yet with H&M, the issue was the Windsors leaking Meghan’s personal correspondence and spreading lies through the tabloids, whereas with the Windsors the issue is H&M simply telling the truth to correct the record. The hypocrisy is beyond belief.
Harry hopped on a plane and flew hours and hours for a brief conversation with his newly diagnosed father. He’s never revealed the contents of that meeting. People can ask that their conversations remain private and between them. Has Charles ever asked? From my observations Harry speaks publicly (his interviews , book, statements) when there’s a shroud of dishonesty around topics important to him. He’s not letting the Windsors lie about him and I think he wants his voice in the historical record. He learned a few things from his mother’s experience
Yup. Diana only did the Bashir interview after Charles did his with Dimbleby.
The Windsors hate being made accountable. They are such cowards and they lie.
And Charles did more damage his naming Camilla as his mistress brought down the Parker Bowles marriage.
@Tessa she got Ray Mill and Old Mill out of it and who knows what trusts and gifts for her family. She did well, the Rottweiler. As she said, she was never qualified, was only a housewife. She was totally reliant financially on APB and Chuck was her meal ticket. She got the crown, the jewels and the money.
It’s been reported millions in trusts for her family (and properties).
@Canterbury Chuck is truly a major taxpayer funded cuck.
Camilla had ambitions she had absolute contempt for Diana.
Great point. Camilla was the only one who leaked complaints about that, if I remember right — she was upset she wasn’t allowed in the room to hear what was said (and leak it/lie about it).
Such a dysfunctional family. “We treated you horribly but didn’t expect you to tell anyone. That is why we can no longer trust you” lol.
“Yes, we leaked against you, did not protect your wife, in fact we encouraged the hate towards her, why couldn’t you keep quiet about it so we don’t look so bad?” lol
“Yes, we could invite your family to visit and to see the children, but we haven’t, but did you need to make that known? How dare you? This is outrageous!” lol
“No we do not want to spend the $ on your family’s protection for a wee visit but we will pay millions to cover up your uncles indiscretions, no problem!”
I’m happy Harry did the interview, and that he chose BBC.
🙏🎯
Well said!
That poll percentage of 31% of not knowing what they think, is showing that people are becoming increasingly indifferent to the whole Royal Family
The thing about the monarchy is that they lie about everything, even stuff they don’t need to lie about. I thought Harry was smart to get his story on the record before they had a chance to produce a fiction that makes Charles look like the good guy. They are still trying but it won’t land after Harry’s interview. He made some very key points that needed to be on the record. Also doing it on Friday evening before Charles and his staff could brief the Sunday papers was clever. I think Harry can be very strategic when he needs to be. He will be OK, he has a family that love him. The picture Meghan posted without words says it all.
100% agree. Congratulations Sussex Chief Communications Officer Meredith, yet another notch on your bow! Lead the narrative, know your channels and work to your principal’s strengths. A true professional.
Harry may have lost the court case but he won in the court of public opinion. This story will resonate internationally and will be up there with Diana’s Panorama interview in terms of historical impact. It won’t alleviate Harry’s emotional pain but he can look himself in the mirror every morning and like what he sees. That’s the ultimate victory
1000% agree with you! This reminds of when H had some event in the UK and got it out of the way ahead of time that C wouldn’t meet with him due to his “busy schedule” or whatever. the BRF spent weeks trying to play catch and change the narrative but it was set.
Charles is afraid he and his many medals will be upstaged at the event
Ah yes his medals. Mary Pester used to call them his Charlie’s Chocolate Factory medals.
Ah, Harry “stole” the Wails’ thunder by… doing an interview on the same weekend Charlotte’s birthday photo was released? But also overshadowing Charles announcement of a trip to Canada? If we are applying the same rules, then that sounds to me like Charles was the one trying to steal thunder then, hmm? It’s just that Harry is more interesting than any of the left-behinds.
I’m also confused as to the indignation about overshadowing a photo of Charlotte where she’s smiling and wearing a camouflage jacket? Are the rota reporting on the jacket because that’s just how they write about the royals? It just seems odd to emphasize. She does look more comfortable in camo than either of her parents at their military cosplay events, granted.
So is Charles upstaging charlottes birthday. The wails should not get their kids involved in this upstaging talk.
WWII is upstaging Charlotte. Or Charlotte is upstaging WWII. One of them is guilty, I’m sure.
Was grandfather Charles not at Charlotte’s birthday party?
Poor King Charles, so controlling and withholding. It’s the human kindness touches that are remembered with affection in history – not the authoritarian cruelties.
I hope Harry will put this behind him and move on. Charles can and will do whatever he wants until death takes him or the public says otherwise. The same will be true of William as long as the people still want to live under a monarchy.
I know a lot of here agree but I do think this was about putting it on the record.. The interview and statement put it all out there for the public. I do think M wants to visit some people and charities and they’d both like to take the kids at some stage so it’s not about moving on. He moved on years ago. It’s about fairness and honesty. As someone who has done nothing wrong he can’t safely visit his own country when regular citizens like rushdie have had police protection for decades. I don’t see how he’s not’ moved on’ at all.
Harry hadn’t entirely moved on or else he wouldn’t have been pursuing this case. Putting it on the record for whom? The record means nothing when the monarchy can just ignore it. It’s Harry’s money and he can spend it however he wants, but it’s not like the power of the monarchy has been a secret for the past 1,000 years, or that the Windsors haven’t for years been shown to be lying, backstabbing criminals. The system allows this, everybody knows it and they don’t care.
Harry’s been been putting things on the record for years and that’s fine if he’s doing it for himself, his family, posterity or whatever. But at some point, it becomes nothing more than a waste of time and money because nobody wants to hear it. The monarchy and the press have made sure of that because they are important to the system and Harry is not. And the Windsors are biologically related to Harry, but they’re not his family. So, I hope this is the end of it for Harry and he can enjoy his life with Meghan and the children, knowing that he did the absolute most he could do.
That’s really the thing. Charles is horrible. For real, horrible. And William will be worse. By far. Continuing to keep everything on the public record knowing that William will one day be king is smart and honestly self-preservation.
@Eurydice, I think, it was very shocking to Harry when his own security got pulled, because he worked for the firm all his life. He was never raised with any amount of privacy, because he was the son of the future King, so the security would be a given. He is putting all these on record, telling the public, he knows the names who decided on risking his and his family’s life, he is sending a message. If anything happens to him and his family, he probably made the arrangements making all those names public.
When he first started this process, he didn’t know who was in RAVEC making decisions. This is the first time this info got public. He might have hoped, at the end, the court would be able to reverse the decision. He couldn’t get that and he immediately made an interview explaining the process. Otherwise, it would be tabloids setting the narrative about what the case was about and Harry’s intentions to bring out the case. In that sense, this interview was important. It is probably why he chose BBC, since they have a more recognized brand internationally unlike ITV.
It’s good for Harry’s own peace of mind and future planning that he found out the truth and set his narrative. This is why I said I hope he will move on from this chapter of his life. But, if anyone thinks “the record” will change anything in the UK, then I just don’t believe it. The King isn’t an old and feeble man who has cancer – he’s just the one who’s inhabiting the role today. Tomorrow it will be Mad Willie and, after him, whatever George turns out to be. And behind them kissing their asses will be the press, sometimes giving a gently nudge, but always covering up for them.
What this shows is that the Royal Family are above the LAW.. I guess democracy is for the dump colonies ….
The fire in Archie’s room in the South African British consulate, and the New York chase. Is concerning..
to paraphase Oscar Wilde
“To lose one Royal, , may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose more looks like carelessness.”
I find it frustrating that people are saying Harry should just move on. Firstly he & his family’s ability to travel safely to his homeland, connect with family (that aren’t Charles & William), friends, orgs etc is restricted & all because Harry left a position where he & his wife were being bullied. We don’t know how his not being able to travel to the uk as freely has impacted his relationships. As he only gets full protection when he is invited to Uk by the BRF, he’s taking a risk if he travels to the uk to attend a relatives funeral. Imagine not being able to attend any of your friends weddings or special occasions & even normal events & the strain that may eventually put on relationships. It is grossly unfair & I can understand why Harry said he was devastated.
Secondly if Harry’s home country refuses to do a risk assessment does this impact ability to have up to date intelligence on risks faced internationally too? does his private protection team even have the most accurate info of the threats he is facing to be able to do their job & protect him & those around him? His US security team mentioned to People mag last year that some Archewell staff are afraid when travelling with them. So potentially this decision impacts people beyond Harry’s immediate family.
Thirdly Harry said the BRF had signalled to world governments not to protect them. So this is beyond his ability to just travel to the uk. How can Harry just move on if the palace continues to actively interfere with his new life? We know for example that In 2023 the press reported on pressure for Jill Biden not to attend the invictus games at The Hague to avoid upsetting the palace. I also wonder if there’s more to that random story involving air force one, the Bidens & the queens funeral that was reported in 2023. So I definitely believe the palace would lobby other governments not to protect H&M. Apparently the court documents support this claim too.
Harry mentioned last year after Nigeria trip they had lots of invites. How do we know if they’ve had to turn down international trips because the palace has pressured the relevant governments not to provide Harry & Meghan with adequate security. The tabloid press always hyper fixates on security they get on their foreign trips & it’s clear why. I also think of the press doing articles exaggerating the cost of security on H&M’s trip to Colombia. Similar to what Harry said about uk press lobbying for H&M to lose their security in the UK, the Uk press was clearly trying to make taxpayers in Colombia upset about covering H&M security & no doubt with the palace’s blessing. So the palace & Uk press are also basically trying to stop Harry doing trips beyond the uk.
Fourthly what does this mean for the kids? They aren’t always going to be anonymous & are the grandkids of the current monarch & the nephew & niece of the next monarch. We know that there are people in jail because of racist threats to Archie’s life. I’m hopeful these threats will reduce over time but what does this position mean for risk assessments etc when they are older especially as some of their risk will emanate from their positions as mixed race Prince/princess of the uk? Is this something the US government will manage as they are also US citizens?
So no I don’t think this is something that is easy for Harry to just move on from as it has pretty wide implications. The palace says he isn’t a working royal so won’t have particular security but RAVEC won’t treat him as a private citizen (which would actually circumvent the royal household & probably ensure he would get the risk assessment & therefore adequate security) so will continue to have the royal household represent his position on security. Having tried to resolve this privately & having exhausted the legal process but knowing that his father is the one that has made the key decision, I’m not surprised he said he was tired of fighting & was essentially up for a truce but was also indicating he wasn’t expecting one.
Agree with all of this.
Hasn’t the palace thought about how bad a man Charles looks when calling other countries to say that his son shouldn’t be given security.
If this fool family’s thunder can be so easily stolen, they never had it to begin with. And why does a 10 year old girl whose parents are so concerned with raising her “privately” even need public thunder anyway? These people are idiots.
Exactly. Why does a 10 yr old little girl need to have her day in the press and why should her parents be mad that she didn’t get it? Roya Nikkha is furthering that narrative. A commenter the other day mentioned the need for the Wales to have their children create a parasocial relationship with the public so maybe that’s why. Again, the monarchy’s use of children, with the help of the BM, is messed up.
Birthdays should be happy family events and the child should enjoy it without spiteful comments about harry overshadowing her birthday.that she may read
They played this same game using Louis birthday.
For years, this has sounded like an order from above to malign everything and anything, every breath of the Sussxes, to denounce anyone who defends them. It doesn’t get any clearer than this hate campaign. And that’s just the part we see publicly every day.
I so want that second book but I doubt will come anytime soon.
Prince Harry speak viscerally about his fear of members of his nuclear family losing their lives and these hierarchal shells lacking humanity speak of stealing the spotlight, even when they are the ones that decide its power where to point it
We are in a world where truth telling is seen as the ultimate betrayal.
Look, I love Meghan. But like her, I ended up in a relationship with a Whyte man (I’m half white, not Whyte) who always wanted to run back to his racist ass family, despite them being total 1950s Southern Strategy pieces of da-daunk-da-dunk.
It took me years to finally wake up and realize: OH wait! This man is never gonna get it! He is fully vested into the White plight (in Meghan’s case: The Royal whyte plight). Yes, he loves me to pieces, but can you REALLY have a relationship with someone who is constantly begging for their bigoted family to come back to them? At some point, that’s racism too. That’s, at least, what I came to realize.
I can understand why you chose to get out of your relationship. In this case, though, it seems like Harry is just trying to make sure his wife and children can visit his homeland without threat to their lives from certain unhinged people? It seems more about England than than his family. But maybe I missed something in the interview.
The homeland needs to be safe. It seems precarious for all to go back. The real loyal ones like the Spencers will visit them. Will Charles and peg allow Eugenie and Jack to go visit them
Harry isn’t constantly begging, he simply wants the opportunity to talk to his father and discuss the issues calmly and maturely, and get him to at least sanction RPO security. I was estranged from my older sister for several years and even though she was a narcissistic b*tch from hell, I missed the good parts about her and wanted that back, so we reconciled. Two years later she died. I still loved her even though she had caused me a lot of hurt and humiliation, and I was glad we had that last two years.
Meghan is big hearted, even huge hearted and she loves her man. She’s also gone through similar family issues and has that maturity and patience that comes from having lived through it. I can imagine that she’s giving Harry the space to come to his own realisations about his toxic family, while keeping healthy boundaries (saying no when it matters, calling the BRF “my husband’s family”, etc) and that’s one of the ways she can show love for Harry and their beautiful family together despite what she has endured by being with him.
I think Harry has more than proved he will choose Meghan and their children over his toxic family, but there are bigger issues at stake. I don’t believe he has the choice to cut them off entirely given his birthright and the public life of service he’s chosen to lead, not to mention his very deep personal need to right some of the wrongs done to his mother. It’s complicated. Harry has shown so far IMO that he is a man with integrity and a warrior up to the task.
They are not ordinary people. I’m rooting for them
I mean, Harry left everything he knows to keep Meghan and Archie safe. There is no royal family member who did that before. All royal men said to their wives / girlfriends was to get on with it when they got abuse from the media. It wasn’t just his family he left, he left the job he did since he was a child, the country he grew up in, his friends, etc.
When he talks about making peace with his family, he isn’t going back to them to expose Meghan and their children to more abuse. He is talking about his father, his only living parent, who has cancer and he doesn’t know how long he is gonna live. He together with Meghan offered that to Charles before, talking about their issues with the help of a mediator. I am guessing that Meghan agrees with him in that, otherwise he wouldn’t offer it. It was Camilla who laughed at it and rejected the offer. If Harry is the kind of a guy who would leave Meghan to visit Charles, that would be different. He is offering peace with the condition of talking about their issues, not sweeping them under the rug.
So can your husband’s family essentially bar you from visiting a whole ass country? He’s not begging to be taken back at all, he clearly stated CA is his home and that’s that. He simply wants his family to be able to visit the UK with security. That’s the crux of this. Sure, he’d like a relationship with them but that doesn’t mean he expects it.
He’s not your husband.
He’s not constantly begging. And I think after Spare and after the BBC interview, he knows he won’t be returning to them anytime soon. They’ve reached stalemate and the ball is firmly in Chuck’s court.
I think what he’s doing is unraveling the link between media and monarchy which directly caused his mother’s death and which led to their flight. That is his life’s work, as he said.
As for Meghan, she married someone who had the same approach to service as she did and she understood the significance of the platform she married into and what it means to other women and girls like her. It has turned into a cautionary tale but Meghan has a more influential platform than she could have imagined. Like Diana. Thrust into the limelight but unlike Lazy, doing something with it.
The problem remains the jealous and lazy members of the family didn’t like that.
Remember when Little Archie had a birthday and how dear grandpa thought that would be the perfect and the only day in 365 days out of the year to have his fancy hat party? Remember? Okay , then royyah can save her pathetic pity about Charlotte birthday because it’s not Harry fault that they choose to cover him instead of Charlotte and grandpa dearest
One interesting thing to come out of Harry’s loss in court was that the BBC interviewed a top British security expert who said that Harry was right to pursue the case! Sadly it was just the one lone voice.
If we accept the palace claim that Harry cannot be trusted to keep a conversation private (and I absolutely do not), the question is: What would Charles say to Harry that the palace is afraid would be leaked?
If Charles were the good father the courtiers claim he is, why are they so insistent that he cannot talk to Harry? Just what are they afraid of?
Exactly
I’m beginning to wonder what other European royal families think of the way the British RF is treating Harry and his family. It’s an incredible story that calls them all into question.
This is really not the excuse Charles thinks it is, you are worried what you say ends up in a newspaper? Just keep talks to small talk and nice things and if Harry asks about security you say „I am sorry dear boy, I really cannot talk about this“
I remember all the photo o p s Charles had with William and harry after their mother died. Shown hugging them before cameras and p r speaking of great dad Charles
He took harry to spice girls concert. Then some months later he used them to promote Camilla. The boys were left with servants at highgrove. Such a bad father. He never learns
Disgraceful how he treats harry and Meghan
The Firm is flooding the zone with its media minions and bots. The Windsors have taken a fresh hit with Harry’s interview and it shows. Charlotte’s birthday and the WW2 commemoration being overshadowed is ridiculous; the press makes that choice of coverage. Since Invictus Games is not a royal event there is no point in having Harry to come. It there’s a mechanism in place, get the games cancelled and moved to an another host country. It will motivate the Firm to try to take it away from Harry , but after the Sentable debacle Harry will be motivated to fight.
Harry might lose, the King is head of the armed forces.
I wonder if Charles “can’t” bear to see Harry because of his guilt. I wonder if Harry reminds Charles of Diana, and any guilt he feels there. And the cow’s guilt.
Charles imo feels no guilt
That would mean his not blaming others.
It might have to do with the questions / realizations Harry has about the process. He does not want to be confronted – no accountability.
Bingo.
I’m still processing… It really has become so obvious that the heirs are used to getting their way in every matter. Even if it is only based on envy and resentment. And even if it costs lives. How can that be a reality in 2025?
The balcony irony on VE Day is that the only combat-serving member of the royal family was booted for marrying a mixed race American actress.
Poor Charles doesn’t know if private remarks to Harry won’t end up on a news special?!? Poor lamb! Charles would give anything for a tenth the news power Harry can generate.
And, getting real here your tampon highness, I can’t think of a Harry scandal nor did I note any character weaknesses in the interview.
I watched a calm, sober, extremely well-spoken young man mastering his emotions to speak to the judicial crime covered up by the King and Prince of Wales and further blurred with waves of Trumpian negativity from the usual suspects.
Further, thanks to Diana’s foresight and the young couple’s productivity, a lost $2 mil won’t crush our man who should be King.
Note: 46% approval in an almost totally controlled media environment is, as we say down home, ‘ain’t all that.’
If you follow the links to the survey, it was conducted on April 9 and merely released right after the court decision. In other words, it’s absolutely worthless for revealing anything about how Brits feel about Harry now that he’s talked to the BBC. Also, almost 1/3 of Brits are unsure about how the monarchy is handling Harry’s security, which isn’t a rousing endorsement either.
Oh please, cry me a river lol. The world outside the UK now knows how evil they are – the BM and the BRF. And they got called out for it. Now it’s PR to help mitigate the damage.
If the King is without sin there will be nothing for Harry to leak.