Justine Musk: Elon ‘was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking’

Elon Musk married his first wife, Justine, 26 years ago. After their divorce, Justine wrote a moving essay about their marriage. That essay became one of the foundational texts of “understanding Elon Musk.” Back then, he was sexist, controlling, baby-obsessed and a huge liar. You can absolutely see the seeds of the monster he was becoming. Well, Justine Musk has spent her post-divorce life living pretty quietly and raising her children (all of them fathered by Elon). But Justine decided to participate in Alex Gibney’s Musk documentary, and she had some sh-t to say.

Elon Musk‘s first wife spoke about her time with her ex-husband in a new documentary, revealing that she learned of the term “gaslighting” during their relationship.

Justine Musk, who married Elon in 2000 and had six children with him, is one of the interviewees featured in writer-director Alex Gibney’s latest work, Musk, about the tech titan. The four-hour film premiered at the Venice Film Festival on Tuesday, Sept. 8, and will hit theaters on Oct. 16.

Among her revelations, Justine spoke about the former couple’s first child, Nevada, who died of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) when he was 10 weeks old. Justine even recalled a social media post in which the Tesla founder alleged he held Nevada when he died. However, she said she was the one who actually held the baby.

Justine also remembered how Elon would be self-conscious when he picked his wardrobe, once telling her, “I can’t look cool or hip, because I need to look like an engineer.”

Meanwhile, his ex-wife shared Elon telling her during the first dance of their wedding that he was the “alpha in this relationship.”

“I learned the term ‘gaslighting’ through my relationship with Elon,” Justine said in the documentary, referring to how he would often make her feel “insignificant” in their marriage, talking down to her like she was one of his employees. As they danced at their wedding, she said, her then-husband even told her, “I am the alpha in this relationship.”

“He was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking,” she said.

Justine has only talked occasionally about her marriage to Elon in detail over the years — including in Marie Claire in 2010 and a TED Talk in 2017. Her appearance in Gibney’s documentary marks a rare new set of comments about her ex-husband and the father of her kids.

Following Nevada’s death, the two would go on to have five more children together — including twins Vivian and Griffin in 2004 — before they separated in 2008. Vivian, who is transgender, is referenced in the film, and Elon had previously said that he lost his daughter to the “woke mind virus.” In Gibney’s film, Justine said that Elon cut off Vivian’s health insurance when she came out as trans and that he has “never tried to repair things” with her. She added, “It’s not in his nature.” However, Justine alleged that Elon told her to tell Vivian that “I’ll always love her.”

[From People]

One of the creepiest things about Elon – which I wish people would discuss more – is that he doesn’t want daughters. He’s not simply baby-obsessed, he’s only interested in having sons. That’s part of the reason why Vivian’s transition upset him so much, because he doesn’t want a daughter, he has no interest in being a father to a girl. I would argue that he has no interest in being a father in general, but he only really acknowledges his sons. Anyway, yeah, he’s a gaslighter and a liar and he treats women like crap.

Photos courtesy of Cover Images, Justine Musk’s Instagram.

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23 Responses to “Justine Musk: Elon ‘was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking’”

  1. Mightymolly says:

    If anyone hasn’t read Justine’s Marie Claire article, Google it STAT. One of the creepiest things I’ve read in my life and I’m a Stephen King girl. I dated and escaped a controlling narcissist when
    I was younger so I have some understanding but we didn’t have children and he didn’t become the richest and arguably most powerful man on earth. 😱

    ETA: Here’s the direct link: https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/

  2. Yup, Me says:

    He’s so pathetic and dangerous. And lol at him thinking there was a chance that he’d look “cool”. He LONGS to be cool or hip. There is no danger of that happening. Ever.

    We need to collectively bully him viciously until he climbs (back?) into his spaceship and flies to Mars.

  3. Yawn says:

    People who can’t manage complexity – which is an inherent characteristic of humans (we are multifaceted and contradictory) – end up like Elon. Very one dimensional. I think the fact he is neurodivergent (asberger’s) is part of the picture. Not making excuses but he grew up with a deeply dysfunctional, abusive father (his father likely has had at least one child with Elon’s stepsister – she is and was with her partner then and they never got DNA tests to know for sure so “likely”. But the fact is the father took advantage of the stepdaughter when she had no money for food.)

    • orangeowl says:

      I’m not sure we can blame his neurodivergence for his monstrous behavior. Some people are just evil. He and Trump seem to be cut from the same cloth, rooted in extremely deep insecurity.

    • abritdebbie says:

      @Yawn I hope you don’t mind me pushing back that he is neurodivergent. He has used it as an excuse when he accidentally did a Hitler salute, but has never had a diagnosis. He does seems to be an Aspie Supremasist. Ember Green has done a really good explainer if you are interested in the issues
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui2h_pHDDmk

      Also his father might be abusive but Elon Musk has used his dads money to succeed whilst abusing people and preventing the mothers of his children from seeing them. He seems to have a lack of empathy but that isn’t an autism trait but is psychopathic one.

      Asberger was a nazi scientist, he sorted children to decide whether they should be killed or allowed to live. Neurodivergent children that he believed could be an asset to the nazis were defined as having Asbergers. Due to this, applying Asbergers to high functioning people with autism is something professionals avoid.

  4. Brassy Rebel says:

    She knew he was a white South African from the start. That was the first red flag. They were not that long past apartheid when she met him. Not all white South African males supported apartheid but apartheid was heavily supported by white South African males. The odds he was a fascist were always high.

    • Tis True, Tis True says:

      Going to push back on that a bit There were many dissidents pushed out of South Africa or who left because they didn’t want to continue passively supporting the system. I knew several, so I wouldn’t have assumed that a South African emigre supported the régime. Would be curious to know how Musk talked about his home country when being openly racist wasn’t generally cool.

    • Thinking says:

      He might have appeared more normal back then. I mean, there was a time we were all sort of fooled into thinking he was normal and now I’m not sure why we were so naive ). Then the crazy cracked wide open, and I connected that to him being a sociopathic billionaire protective of his money and not wanting to pay taxes rather than being a South African.

      No one holds it against Americans that the country once had slavery or that some voted for Trump to be president, so I can see why she wouldn’t factor in him being South African as part of his character traits.

      • Thinking says:

        I think my last statement was clumsily worded. What trying to say (but not very well) is that it’s rare for someone to say they’d never date an American because of its problematic history which still has lasting effects despite being aware this history exists. Ditto for Britain and other countries with colonial histories. So I can see why she didn’t factor where he came from into whether she’d date him or not.

      • Mightymolly says:

        It also seems like he pursued her very aggressively. She was young and likely didn’t understand the pathology of his behavior. They don’t teach us in school how to distinguish between someone who truly adores you or wants to control and manipulate you.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Maybe it’s just me, but if I was thinking about a relationship with a white South African ten years after the end of apartheid, his politics would have been top of my mind before getting involved. I’m saying that for me his origin story would be a red flag, requiring further investigation. Either she wasn’t thinking about the politics or he out and out lied to her which sounds like he did frequently. I am not suggesting that all South African whites are racist and shouldn’t be dated. Don’t know where you’re getting that from.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        @MightyMolly: yes, he was definitely love bombing her. Then once they were married, literally in the middle of the wedding dance, he announced his real intention which was to dominate and subjugate her. That’s a hard thing to detect when it’s happening to you.

      • knotk says:

        No, he was not normal. I knew him back then (‘90’s). He was incredibly smart/manipulative, had a simple but novel (at the time) idea (zip2). He was socially super awkward and he knew it. Justine was/is smart & beautiful and gave him the cover he needed to function in social situations. Once he sold Zip2 people took notice ($$) and his brand started to take off. His gift is his ability to talk just a bit more socially than most engineers & exploit people & failures in systems (business opp’s and gov loans). He told me he was going to marry Justine before she had moved to California (they had dated in Canada). When I asked him “what if she says “no”? He said quite firmly and with zero emotion, “she won’t.” That may not seem strange, but at the time it gave me the creeps.

      • Thinkingt says:

        I can believe he was not normal, but there was a time when I think the public perceived him as more normal than he was, but that was pre Twitter. I vaguely remember people lauding him for his brilliance, etc, and everyone going along with it, but now looking back, most of us (who have not had personal interactions with him) were foolish in thinking he was more brilliant than he might actually be.

        She might have been only 18 or 19 when they met, so there are a lot of things I would not have expected her to pick up on.

        .

      • Mightymolly says:

        I applaud Justine’s bravery now repeatedly calling out her abusive ex who is the richest and therefore possibly most powerful person on earth. I can only imagine the horror of that scenario. She might also be problematic through youthful indifference to something like apartheid. I really don’t know.

        In the early 90s in college I dated someone who was a lovely sweet person and being 20 I did wonder if he was the person I’d marry. Although American, he’d spent part of his childhood in South Africa for his father’s job. The way he discussed the things he saw there, a mix of amusement and indifference, was for sure part of the equation for why it didn’t work out. But of course that wasn’t first date talk. We were practically living together (college style) when that info broke free.

      • Thinking says:

        After reading the article she wrote, I can see how she fell for him (though she’s clearly better looking than he is but that’s a tangential point that doesn’t really mean anything). He took her ambitions seriously and a lot of women would probably be surprised by a man not being put off by that. It also seemed like they were on again, off again at points so I think their relationship followed the trajectory of what young people experience at that point in their lives and then make a decision to go through with making it a partnership in marriage.

        It does seem she noticed something was off at their wedding reception but, like most people who have decided to marry, dismissed it because the decision has now been made.

  5. Normades says:

    I love Vivian Wilson’s Desigual, “Born to Disobey,” spots. I hope they all keep trolling and exposing his awful ass.

  6. tamra says:

    He has LDS,,,the chainsaw proves it!

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