What can you say about Michelle Duggar? She seems like she’s happy and relaxed all the time, she squeezes out a kid whenever her body complies, which is surprisingly often, and she wants to have a 20th kid despite her last child’s life-threatening premature birth and that fact that she could have died having her. About a month ago, the Duggars appeared smiling and cradling their 19th child on the cover of People with the title “We’re ready for more.” Now the National Enquirer has a new story saying Michelle would die to have another kid. Even assuming they have no insider information on the Duggars, this is pretty much what they’ve been saying forever – that they want to have another kid and that “God is the one who gives life.” (Their words.) I guess He/She takes it again too, when people use their free will to do dangerous things.
“I WANT another child and I’m not afraid to die to have one!”
That’s what MICHELLE DUGGAR, the mother of 19 children, has told friends and family members about her life-threatening quest for Baby No. 20.
Michelle, 43, developed preeclampsia – or pregnancy-induced high blood pressure – while she was pregnant with No. 19, daughter Josie.
As a result, Josie had to be delivered prematurely on Dec. 10 of last year – at just 25 weeks!
Michelle and her husband Jim Bob, 45, are devout Christians who do not believe in using contraception.
And the stars of TLC’s reality show 19 Kids & Counting want MORE children – even though they know the next pregnancy could kill her, say close pals.
“Michelle said she would gladly give her life to bring another child into the world,” said a source close to the family.
[From The National Enquirer’s website thanks Oxa!]
The print edition of the Enquirer has the “if that’s what God wants” quote. Michelle supposedly “told a friend” that “I would like to be around to raise my children and see them grow – but only if that’s what the Lord wants.
“More than anything, Jim Bob and I want to have another child, even though we know that there are substantial risks involved. I know I could have a stroke… or worse.
“But if that’s what God wants, so be it.”
The source goes on to say that “three of her oldest children” are “ready, willing and able to help their dad raise the younger kids if anything happens to her.” As selfless as Michelle tries to portray herself, she’s sure relying on her children to cover for her while she has a ton of kids that she can’t take care of.
Header image credit: TLC
Geez I’d be afraid to die and leave all those kids behind.
p.s. what a cuteeeee baby.
So I guess the older kids would just continue to raise the younger kids. Sounds about right.
Sure the kids will help out…they do that already. This woman only has the babies…she doesn’t raise them.
Well, if that’s what God wants who are we to stand in the way. By all means, better to die giving birth to your 20th child instead of sticking around to raise the other 19. Why doesn’t she just remove her uterus, have it bronzed and stick on the shelf next to all the baby booties?
um, firstly, these people disturb me and are an embarrassment to the human race.
second, these poor kids didnt choose this life and these parents are incredibly selfish.
there are better ways to make “god” happy than to pop out a bunch of kids. how about taking care of the needy or the dying planet.
and that last kid is not cute. it looks like an alien. not all babies are cute. just saying.
Fanatics and zealots, the lot of them. People weren’t meant to breed like dogs for a puppy mill.
@ im awful : TOTALLY AGREE ! weird looking kid. these people need to be stopped.
I used to hate the Duggar’s, but seeing how they run their family is just amazing. Yeah it may seem selfish to have more kids than you can pay individual attention to, but really that just teaches your children to think of others before themselves… which is a foundation for their family and in my opinion a very important trait to have (and one that’s usually lacking in American society). I was always under the impressions that they don’t actively try for kids, they just do their thing and what happens, happens. I have no doubt that she’d be ok having more kids, and none of us have any say in how we’ll die so what does it matter if she accepts that?
Personally I think the Duggar’s are just non-stories. Yeah, they have a lot of kids. They’ll probably keep having kids. And your point is…?
@ I’m awful
U are awful!
🙂
Maybe those three older children–and I’m pretty certain she’s not referring to her sons–are prepared to look after the little ones because they already do it all the damn time anyway.
Those two are such famewhore turds.
Why is it that God calls these people to repopulate the planet with Christians through having a ton of babies, never by adopting and caring for the orphans as commanded in the Bible?
I don’t get it.
This family creeps me out to no end. Any “religion” that you have to escape from doesn’t qualify as a religion in my book. Especially since they go after you and try to bring you back. Isn’t that called a cult??
How is that different from “If I walk into heavy traffic and get hit by a car, that’s God’s will”? Shouldn’t you use your common sense not to put yourself into harm’s way?
I dont’ know , I really have no opinion on the Duggars personally, they have the freedom to breed as much as they want. One thing we can’t deny is that they’re fruitful. My only problem with them is this, as a parent it would be my biggest fear to die before my children, esp, when you have little ones. So yes, I guess they are being selfish.
What’s another one or two in the mix.
Everytime I see an article about her, I can’t wait until someone cleverly refers to her vagina as a “clown car”. There’s always someone!
reminds me of the movie idiocracy… too few folks having too many babies.
“and that last kid is not cute. it looks like an alien. not all babies are cute. just saying.”
That is one of the funniest things I have ever read. Damn near wet my pants laughing.
How totally irresponisble, she would risk her life to have yet another child, not giving a frogs fat azz, that she will be leaving 19 kids without a mother.. what a tool, and a fool,, its sad for real..
That’s horrible. How selfish. These people aren’t just harmless in my opinion. It’s one thing to say you’d give your life for your child, it’s entirely another to say that you would risk the life of you and your unborn child to serve your own needs to have a child army. This has nothing to do with God. This has to do solely with this family’s delusional interpretations of what God wants from a book God didn’t even write (God inspired it, whatever). Sure, the older kids could take care of the family, and they’re not going to starve if one parent kicks it. But losing a parent isn’t JUST about losing a caretaker. Losing a parent is a very difficult, emotionally exhausting event in one’s life – especially if it’s unexpected or the children are young. At first I thought they were harmless religious nitwits, but saying she’d die just to have one more child, I’m sorry but that’s despicable. If they’re sooo concerned with God’s word, maybe they should consider the fact that God says life is sacred and having a family isn’t like running a circus. They seem to have no real respect for human life. Superficially they say they do, but if they really had the reverence God asks of when bringing a child into the world, that woman would get her tubes tied and her husband would get a vasectomy. What morons.
And you know what, I’ll go so far as to say this – if she does get pregnant again and have a complicated pregnancy – Darwinism finish the job please. We don’t need people like that populating the earth with their fucked up/disrespectful ideas about procreation. What a farce.
Quiverfull loons.
WTF is wrong with her? I used to kind of put up with them, but enough is enough.
seems to me that, if God had his way, she would have died during her last pregnancy.
it was only medical intervention that saved both her and her child.
I think that was God telling her to not have anymore kids.
of course, they probably see the medical intervention as God’s hand guiding the doctors through it.
I can’t with these idiots.
Her pathetic hair is killing me. She is stuck in 1982. Circus freaks.
This makes me feel ill.
SO DAMN SELFISH.
Lady, God has more to be doing with His time than micro-managing your uterus!
As a Christian myself and a firm believer in birth control, I do not understand people that keep having children and using God’s will as an excuse. I understand wanting to have a large family, my aunt has 11 children an uncle of mine(from marriage) has 17 brother and sisters, but there but they never said it was God’s will and they planned their children. They didn’t just randomly make love and then say…oops, here comes another one b/c God wants me to have it. My belief is that if God did not believe in birth control ie. condoms, oral contraception, etc. He would not have created the people who invented these methods. For the Duggars, I have seen the show and I do think that the way they spiritually set an example is great. They way they teach their children by homeschooling them I do not agree with. What I think is awesome is that they all seem happy, which is beyond my comprehention with that may people in the same house. I think it is selfish to have children knowing that you will be eventually too old or DIE to give some of them the right attention they deserve or give YOURSELF attention. Mr. and Mrs. Duggar should think about God’s will for other aspects of her life and not just their childbearing. I think God was giving them a sign when her last child was born with a great deal of problems. This new child will need extra attention and care for her whole life. How are they going to provide for her without the other feeling neglected? There is a difference between having 7 kids and someone having 20. I could go on, but I won’t. God willing they will actually see the signs and honestly listen to what He is telling them.Like the saying goes….the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@Snarf: No people were not meant to breed like puppy mills…at least puppy mills can be shut down.
“More than anything, Jim Bob and I want to have another child, even though we know that there are substantial risks involved. I know I could have a stroke… or worse.”
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What Jim Bob fails to mention is that he already has a new wife all picked out. A nice young 19 year old, to start over with. *roll eyes*
What Michelle seems to ignore is that the Lord has given her the sign to stop.
She ended up with pre-eclampsia and a 25 week old preemie.
Exactly what else does the Lord have to do for her to see the signs to stop?
And it is time for Jim Bob to buy that box of condoms.
Ohhhh and those oldest girls are at the marrying age. I don’t see Jim Bob looking for husbands for them. And why is that? Cause he plans on keeping them at home till they are 40… to raise his kids.
@Hautie:
September 10th, 2010 at 11:46 am
What Michelle seems to ignore is that the Lord has given her the sign to stop.
Well said, I agree, and being that they are really religious people, at this point , would’nt she be tempting the Lord?
@im awful: Here I am talking on the phone with my kids orchestra teacher browsing the site and my eye caught your comment and I almost spit my coffee out laughing! This teacher now thinks I’m looney-that was hilarious!
I just had a thought:
If Michelle did die, I have a feeling Jimbo or whatever his name is would take one of the oldest daughters for his wife.
I don’t know where that came from, I guess they just remind me of the Jeffs family compound people.
“the mother of idiots is always pregnant”
an italian saying.
but in this case? she is an i*iot.
i grew up without my mother because she died with cancer. and i did not like it…
is this woman ever thinking of her kids? surely obviously not.
and that kid looks “funny” because its premature birth and probably handicaped for the rest of her life…
Truthfully, these two adults are exposing and exploiting their family just for the sake of their tv show. They’ve crossed the line and what’s sad is that these poor children don’t have a choice.
So she is willing to fucking die just to keep popping out kids for her other kids to raise? That’s is seriously twisted. Fundamentalists make me vomit a little.
Fundamental religions are very dangerous. These people and their children never had a chance to learn or practice critical thinking. I am sad for them. I got out of this type of thing many years ago. I can only hope that their brood does not keep perpetuating this type of myopic thinking.
I said it the last time there was a story about her, and I’ll say it again: I’d bet any amount of money she is already pregnant and just hasn’t announced it yet. She put out something a few months ago about how she wouldn’t mind and now this I’ll die to have the 20th baby, makes me feel that she is already preggers…
Jim Bob and I want to have another child
what do they not have in their lives with nineteen children that they think they would have with twenty?
and stop blaming god for your acting like your uterus is a walmart.
Selfish woman.
I married late in life and had two babies. 41 when my son (now 14 month old) was born – I developed preclampsia the week he was born. Took it as a sign that I shouldn’t have anymore children and had my tubes tied. I want to be here for my kids.
Michelle D: Please STOP having babies and concentrate on the ones you have. It is selfish to try for more when you know that another birth could kill you – and your baby. If you died, your husband would be left to raise more than a dozen young children. That’s not what a good wife does.
And don’t even get me started in the older kids being forced to help care for the younger ones. That’s awful. They should be able to experience the freedom of being normal teenagers – they should not be forced to be live-in babysitters.
I really hate those stupid bows/headbands/fake hair they put on baby girl’s heads. Ridiculous.
Wow, how nice of of her other children to agree to raise the army — which it sounds like they’re already doing — in the event that Michelle steps off during this next pregnancy. Because I’m sure they absolutely have a choice. Michelle and Billy Bob or whatever his name is are a couple of ignorant fools. Period.
@Eileen: I totally agree with your assessment of religion: if it’s something you feel the need to escape, it completely defeats the purpose. The purpose is also defeated if you become some nut out there burning holy books or foolishly putting yourself and your future children at risk. On that note, I love how these people are against contraception (and abortion), but apparently have no qualms about needlessly risking the life of an unborn child.
This family makes me sick every time I read one of their quotes. I think she keeps saying this type of thing for the attention. She’s obviously addicted to the pregnancy attention and doesnt give a damn about her kids. Who, in their right mind would even be thinking about another baby when they only brought home Josie not too along ago with all her medical issues. Most people would be grateful the newborn was getting healthy and stronger and focusing on that, not making outrageous comments to the media about having another one. She knows every time she says that she’ll be in the headlines.
This gimmick of being all about the Lord and what God wants MY ASS! This family will say and do anything for more media attention.
Having kids is her claim to fame. She is addicted to the attention it brings her. This whole thing is beyond ridiculous & there is not much more to say.
Preclampsia? After 20 chirruns I bet she has no-clampsia and a bad case of lips flapping in the breezia.
I don’t see the point in having a bunch of kids you aren’t personally taking care of. I get that she wants the kids to be close and help each other but she doesn’t seem to have a strong bond with all of the children. Maybe the older children. I honestly don’t think she understands that.
I don’t like to be judgemental, but these seems ridiculous – 20 kids? I get they want to have a huge family but they ALREADY have one, tons of kids under 10. What exactly do they gain from having so many little kids? I can’t put my head around their mindset.
@Kevin, as ignorant as that sounds, I LMAO.
@Hautie – that is what I was going to say. First, if she did die she would be doing the kids a favor, but the problem is he would have some other robobride 20 years younger in there with in 6 months so that would be anothr 20 kids.
And Juliana – I was thinking the same thing about the incest – too funny.
If they are following the whole Bible, they are not following it properly. The Proverbs 31 woman was a shrewd business woman that took great care of her family.
And one of the founding people or early adopters of the Quiverful Society (of which the Duggars are “members”), said point blank that the idea of having this many kids was to basically raise a Christian Army, to be prepared for the end times and so forth and most importantly…. to increase their ranks as voters.
And I heard that she stops breastfeeding early so she can get pregnant. That’s hardly “God’s will”.
Ok, literally, I’m in labor waiting on my spinal for a csection and trying to distract myself.
I had a ton of forms to fill out this am, and one discussed if I died. I have a four year old and I freaked. I didn’t even want to think of that!
I did fertility tx, and you have to discuss your views on fetal reduction if you conceive too many. I don’t see how any mom can easy breezy say she hasn’t conceived yet but hopes she does even if it kills her.
Yes, God uses modern medicine to work for him. Use birth control!
“Why doesn’t she just remove her uterus, have it bronzed and stick on the shelf next to all the baby booties?”
first of all, stronzilla, your comment made me snort coffee out of my nose!
second, i agree with everyone who said she is addicted to being pregnant. i think she is a narcissist who loves the attention of being pregnant more than actually being a mother. and look how much attention she got when she and her baby almost died? also, the family probably wouldn’t even notice she was gone as the older girls raise the kids anyway. and yes, i’m sure creepy jim bob already has wife #2 all picked out, in case of emergency.
@ Rianic
Good luck!!!!
Before I actually watched the show, I was just as judgemental based on articles, comments and headlines I read. But now, I have heard the actual things the Duggars say and then watched them get twisted.
These people are honest, loving and caring, a rariety in this world. Their kids are well behaved, care for one another and are not judgemental. They believe in God, which I think many people find scary. Comments about Jim Bob taking one of his daughters as his wife just show the ignorence of some people.
Yes, the older children help out but Michelle and Jim Bob are not off starring at a computer screen, sitting on FB bragging about what great parents they are or hitting the gym, shops, tanning salons, etc. They are actually taking care of their kids and guiding them. They are actively involved in everyone’s upbringing.
Also, the Duggars are not alone. They have many friends who live a similar lifestyle with just as many children. Just because it is different than our own, does not make them sick.
I wish people would better inform themselves before passing judgement on things they hear second hand.
@Rianic: good luck! not long to go now!
‘Jim Bob and I want to have more kids’.
Okay, listen honey-vulva, Jim Bob the Impaler has never had a baby in his whole damn life.. That’s you who is being set up for a premature meeting with God, not him. Maybe you don’t consider it that way, darling snatch-blossom, so my two cents: If I had a husband who has pretty much holding the knife to my throat by encouraging me to engage in behaviour that could very, very likely result in my death and the death of my unborn child, I would run, and run quickly.
Enjoy my opinion in good health, Charleston Walking Crotch.
Hm. Seems like God is contradicting Himself here – he wants us to pop out as many kids as possible, so that we can rape the world of its resources and eventually destroy it? If he created the world and everything in it, you’d think he’d want to keep it in good condition, LOL.
I have no like of that crazy cult the Duggars are involved with but to me most of this hate of them seems to be stemming from an underlying belief in the Malthusian dogma that nature is inherently in a state of lack, thus she is ‘selfish’ for having so many children in an ‘overpopulated’ world with ‘scarce’ resources. Mrs. Duggars beliefs may be unfounded supersition but then so is Malthusianism – it’s just an unproven belief, nothing more.
@ Rianic: Great way to pass the time! Celebitchy is your focal point! Now Breathe in 1,2,3…Breath out 1,2,3….
@ Kelly
So you would much rather support abortion, to save a tree instead?
@alex – yea it’s wrong to pass judgment on hearsay, but I have NO problem passing judgment on straight up facts.
Fact: Josie was born extremely prematurely, and had to fight for her life in the hospital.
Fact: Josie will not live the “normal” life her siblings are blessed enough to have. She will forever have to deal with the consequences of her parents decision making.
Fact: Michelle Duggar has said she is willing to keep getting pregnant.
Fact: At her age and with her pregnancy history, it is very dangerous and irresponsible to continue conceiving and giving birth and could result in complications for both her and the baby – complications that could be fatal.
Fact: They may be loving parents who provide their children with a stable environment, but if Michelle were to die in labor (as well as the baby), it would devastate the entire family because they ARE so close. There’s no questioning that.
We’re not just passing judgment on a bunch of he said she said. We’re looking at the REAL facts. Not a carefully edited reality show that’s purpose is to show a loving and functional family. I would rather get my facts from the list above – all real truths and not manufactured ones, than a reality show that is cut down, watered down, and not a true portrayal of the actual danger this woman and her husband are putting Michelle and any future children she has in.
@denise, ridiculous. Birth control does not equal abortion. I’m surely not going to get into a debate on this issue this fine afternoon, so let’s leave that one alone.
Also, no trees, no people. Let’s try to concentrate on the health of both.
@bb, you’re right – blaming overpopulation alone is an oversimplification. 9 billion people by 2050? I suppose the outcome depends on what they spend their money on, doesn’t it.
uh, @alex – it’s IGNORANCE.
Michelle is a complete Narcissist. She apparently has no concern for the children she already has. It’s all about HER, her vagina, and her need for attention.
@ Kelly
I’m not trying to start an argument, I just think that logic is a little twisted. If it were up to people like you, we’d be living in China with a strict 1 or is it 2 child policy. I’m sure no one supports government (and believe me it would become a government issue) dictating how many children one should have. That is not freedom.
FYI birth control equates population control. And I don’t support eugenics.
The arguments have all been made about her selfishness in leaving her children motherless. Let’s discuss the resulting baby.
Odds are, it would be premature. Premature babies are often left with many health problems that stay with them if they are lucky to grow into adulthood. Their life expectantcy is nowhere near what it is for a person that was carried for the full nine months.
Also, what kind of guilt are you going to dump on that child because its mother died in child birth?
I agree – God surely dictated China’s 2-child policy. And now I’m off for the afternoon! No more bait.
And to add – how well would they be doing, how much could they provide for all of those children without the income from their reality show? Huh? If they were just living off Jim Bob’s salary and donations, they would probably still be popping out babies, and they would be poor babies. The stable environment is thanks to TLC.
vomit. leave behind 19 kids to have number 20. why is it that you have to get a licencse to drive but not one to have a child?
They both have the “blind faith” that negates any common sense. It saddens and frustrates me that these people are given a tv show and in a sense encouraging their behaviour. I don’t want to get into the religion side of it, however, they need to consider their current children and what the effects would be if they lost their mother.
As an adoptive mom, and before that, the mother of a baby too sick to live, they make me want to vomit.
The mother is nothing but an easily malleable, small minded woman who will do anything her man tells her in the name of their religion. To put a stop to it, the husband needs to castiron up his twig and berries. Because those right there are the real problem. He may want to hit counseling, as well, because he obviously has some sort of sick sex fetish that forces him to copulate with what must now be the most unfeeling piece of badly used flesh, ever.
@i’m awful
That made me crack up to. Still, I can’t help but wonder if Josie’s weirdness is because of some sort of genetic abnormality or problem.
Just watch. This woman is going to have a baby that has every problem known to man, and her whole loony clan is going to praise God for giving them another “gift,” no matter how seriously deformed/disabled/damaged their 20th baby is. I’m not wishing bad on them – I’m just stating the most likely scenario considering her age!
Seriously, Duggars, with all the evil, horrible things that happen in the world – all the genocide, all the rape used as a war tactic, all the poverty and starvation – you SERIOUSLY still believe that condoms and liquor are Satanic and evil sins??!?!?! **cue Amy Poehler voice** REALLY, Duggars? REALLY?
Also, if there is a God up there, please – In terms of Michelle’s vagina, just shut it down, Lord. Go to the heavenly switchboard that controls all the world’s vaginas and just turn her’s off. Please, dear heavenly Father. Please.
Oh, so she’s suicidal now? I don’t know any mom who would continue to have children knowing the chance of her dying was enormous. She’d take the kids she had now and really care for them. Even chancing death like that with all of those children is incredibly stupid.
@Rianic: Good luck! Think happy thoughts and it’ll all be over soon and you’ll have a beautiful baby 🙂
The whole ‘gods will’ thing is a bit of a bug-a-boo to deconstruct logically, at some point a person was born due to ‘gods will’ and that person invented birth control, so it was seem via her logic it was ‘gods will’ to have birth control invented. And as others have pointed out, if she claims to put her life in ‘gods’ hands alone why not have her children at home without modern medicine and let ‘god’ sort out the cards? She is full of conflicting ideas and she chooses to ignore or embrace them when it suits her (or Jim Bob)… granted I suppose we all do the same thing, but hopefully we would consider the fact that leaving our children motherless and in mourning would be the trump card that made us reconsider our decisions.
Sumodo, so sorry to hear about your loss, but I’m glad you were able to be a mother to a baby who needed one.
“FYI birth control equates population control. r u a eugencist?”
@ denise: maybe you should spend less time online and more time at the library. voluntary birth control does NOT equal population control. birth control is used when a woman (or a man) does not want to have children . it is a private, personal decision, as is abortion. and on what planet does birth control equal eugenics? the term eugenics comes from the greek words for “good” and “origin” and is used to dissuade people believed to be inferior from reproducing, therefore people with desired traits will populate the species. the nazis were fervent believers in eugenics, and discouraged aryans from practicing birth control while forcing sterilization on those they deemed inferior. so no, birth control does not equal eugenics.
also, when trying to make a point, it helps if you actually type out real words instead of textspeak so you don’t sound quite so ignorant.
@kj
I was going to respond but I re-read your original post. Now, I am not going to bother. I stand by what I said. It is obvious from your “facts” you know very little about the Duggars other than what you read about or hear second hand.
Let’s remember this whole page is based on hear say from “friends” or “sources close to” Michelle have said to the Enquirer. We all know people are honest all the time. Ha! Okay, sure…..
If the Duggers had left everything in God’s hands(as they so love to preach) then their precious little Josie would be in heaven now. Not, by the miracle of medicine still be alive as she is today.
That poor baby in the picture seems to be saying “what did I get myself into?”
I’m telling you, they’re trying to form their own Quiverfull “army of God” – the idea is to procreate as much as possible to produce Godly children.
And to the poster who said people are just afraid because they (Duggars) believe in God – @@. Please. I bet most people here do.
Denise,
While I think I can safely say we have different opinions on certain issues, I think it is clear that we agree that the government should not dictate what a woman does with her body be it choosing to have 20 kids or choosing to have an abortion. There will be very strong objections to both options, but those are opinions of outsiders. I personally do not support Michelles choice to have another child, however it is ultimately her choice, not mine.
While we do disagree on certain aspects it is nice to find the common ground on the big picture. Like it or not, Her body, her choice.
btw: Is that your cat in your pic? Very cute… granted I am by nature/profession a sucker for the furry foul legged family members 😉
@ Original Kate
Let me clarify this, because I knew it would come back to bite me.
I support birth control if that is what the person chooses, I do not support anyone forcibly making that decision for another.
And I would dare you to research Eugenics, its origins and what it ultimately promotes. It’s alot more than mastering a perfect race, and has much to do with controlling the word population.
And excuse moi if my text speak was deemed “ignorant” in your all too intelligent eyes.
After the war, the Rockefeller eugenics movement experienced a facelift to distance itself from the discredited Nazis. In the 1950s, the Rockefellers reorganized the U.S. eugenics movement and added population-control and abortion groups. The Eugenics Society changed its name to the Society for the Study of Social Biology.
*chew on that*
I think there’s something wrong with her. I know it’s probably just famewhoritis but they name all sorts of mental defects these days, so what would we call Michelle’s? A woman who feels compelled to be pregnant all the fricking time despite the possibility of life threatening complications for herself and her child. “Selfish” and “Delusional” just don’t adequately cover it.
Could she be chosing suicide by child birth so she doesn’t HAVE to raise all those children?
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Ooops, I meant FOUR not ‘foul’, sorry typing and eating greasy pizza hut breadsticks is a bad combo.
@ TaylorB
Thanks. I do agree, that posters can disagree on some things but may actually find common ground on another. Which is exactly why, I try not to attack them personally. Too bad others are so tasteless and don’t do the same. Taylor, I always appreciate your non confrontational approach. 😉
p.s. it’s not my kitty, i wish it were, just because it looks insane. I have a beagle though.
@alex – try again. Those facts are all things that have either been reported by reputable sources, are dictated by pure science, or are things that Michelle Duggar has said herself. I never said it was a fact that she didn’t care if she died or not in my second post, that IS hearsay. But if you look at all the facts, along with the fact that Michelle Duggar has herself stated she is not opposed to a 21st child, then it’s not a huge leap to think that she’s alright with dying in the process or the thought hasn’t crossed her simple mind.
And whoever said birth control is eugenics should be sterilized (just kidding, but seriously, that’s a really dumb/misleading comment if you DO believe birth control should be available). Birth control is an active CHOICE someone makes and should have the right to make. It’s actually a good thing and shows that at least some people in this world understand that bringing another human being into existence isn’t just a decision you make on a whim or on accident. I wish MORE people would consider family planning. Not selecting the sex, hair or eye color, athletic prowess or what have you of their child. Family planning that involves responsible adults weighing the options and opportunities they have to provide for a child is a wonderful thing. More people should consider it. Children aren’t stray dogs you pick up on the street. They’re people that need to be cared for and raised and it’s no easy feat. Birth control can allow people to raise children the right way – when they are willing and able to.
Edit: Eugenics DOES involve *forced* birth control/population control but over the counter BC is not the same thing. I see the point you’re trying to make but I think you should clarify a bit before making such a sweeping generalization.
All the children have a very strange inbred look about them. It reminds me of the fundamentalist mormon polygamists.
“As an adoptive mom, and before that, the mother of a baby too sick to live, they make me want to vomit.”
@Sumodo- 🙁 I can’t even imagine how you would feel.
Personally, I don’t care what these people do-as long as I don’t have to take care of their snot-nosed kids. Don’t have cable so I’ve never seen their show but I support freedom of religion. They can believe whatever they want and do whatever they want. Not sure what kind of bible-thumpers have a frickin’ reality TV show but I’m certainly not trying to find out.
What God “wants” is the Duggars to shut the f*ck up. Everytime she gets knocked up, I”m sure God rolls God’s eyes and says to God’self, “Jesus Christ what a bunch of loons.”
I grew up in a situation like this but my mom had complications. My mother has admitted that if my younger brothers birth hadn’t ended up the way it did she would have had more. She stopped at 14. She says she doesn’t agree with the duggars. She said that being pregnant can sometimes be like a drug for women and Michelle might have a problem aside from their religious belief. My family is very religious also. I thought that the issues with her last birth would open her eyes but I see that’s not the case.
Hautie is right. When Michelle kicks the bucket, Bob will have some brainwashed 19 year old lined up to start the factory line again.
Jesus please us, will somebody please take this breeding machine to the ASPCA and get her spayed?
I am always interested in shows with people that have adopted or fostered children that are difficult to place or even just children that need a family. But, I have no time for people like the Duggars that are popping out kids in the name of Jesus (what kind of reasoning is that)and appear to be handing them off to the older children to raise every time another one is born. However, given the Mom’s age and floppy uterus, I imagine the next 10 or so that she produces (until she finally goes into menopause and can’t have anymore)may very well have mental and physical deficits. Pity the Duggar child that gets assigned the high maintenance babies to look after. Pity the child with the deficits being cared for by another child while Mom and Dad are in the bedroom doing the dirty and trying to have even more. I hope they at least keeping the noise of the bed hitting the wall to a minimum.
@ denise: thank you for not using textspeak this time – much easier to take you seriously.
all your wikipedia-ing about eugenics is admirable, even though it is common knowledge to anyone who has taken philosophy 101. but you still have not proven your point: birth control is not eugenics and forced sterilization is not birth control.
but getting back to your original post,i never saw the poster you accused of being a eugenicist call for forced anything; all she alluded to was that there are not enough resources to support the earth if everyone has 20 children, and she’s right; it is irresponsible. we are stewards of this planet, and we should take care of it for furture generations. but we are talking about a woman having 19 children and risking her life to have a 20th. in my opinion she should practice birth control so she can take care of the children she already has. in the real world, that doesn’t make me a eugenicist, and flinging such inflammatory terms at people just makes you look argumentative and hostile.
You know, I’m sure God doesn’t like nuclear bombs, but he still made sure that Einstein and Oppenheimer were born. Just saying.
@ Original Kate
If you noticed Kate, I corrected that post, look it up. You took part of the message before I edited it. I corrected it from r u a eugenecist , to , I don’t support eugenics.
And for your information, I did’nt use wikipedia for the information, as they are not too credible. Don’t call me out as hostile or argumentive, as you are obviously being that to me. Now I bid you, good day.
Enjoy the text speak.
@Rianic: Congrats & Good luck!! I also did fertility treatments to have my daughter (6 IUI’s & an IVF, then another IVF later which resulted in an early m/c.) I remember all those “fun” forms-which are especially fun here in central KY, where they don’t do selective reduction…I actually would’ve had to travel out of state if that had become an issue.
So after everything I went through to become a mother to the 2 kids I have, and the fact that my SIL is hopefully being discharged from the hospital today after suffering from pre-eclampsia w/her 1st (and only!) baby-who was luckily born healthy, I can honestly say that this nitwit of a woman makes me physically ill. I truly hope that if she CHOOSES to operate the Pez dispenser she calls a uterus again, natural selection takes over & does us all a favor. Oh, and thanks to everyone calling the family an army, I keep hearing the song “Onward Christian Soldiers…” in my head!
Alex-If the Duggars don’t want to be criticized, then they shouldn’t have a t.v. show. I shouldn’t have to see their goofy faces on magazines when I go to the store.
I would not put it past Billy Joe to pick one of his daughters for his next bride. He creeps me out big-time.
And I would have respect for these people if they had adopted some of these children instead of overpopulating the Earth.
“If you noticed Kate, I corrected that post, look it up. You took part of the message before I edited it.”
@ denise: um, ok. i didn’t know i was supposed to constantly check your posts for editing. yes, i WAS going by your OP, and if you don’t want to be called out on such a strong statement then maybe you shouldn’t make it. i’m really not trying to be argumentative, but you opened the door to this debate, and you still have not proven in any way that voluntary birth control = eugenics. as for being hostile, i’m not the one calling people eugenicists, or telling people to “chew on this.” i only wondered why you would bring eugenics into this thread in the first place. i guess you have no rational answers, so i’ll move on as well.
She’s a hoarder. If it was animals instead of children, they’d be taken away!
I read an article about the two oldest girls and how they are totally responsible for the care of their younger siblings. Their brothers can work at the family business, but the girls are not allowed to work or attend college. They are to take care of the kids and house until they marry. Which, probably won’t be any time soon since the parents need the live in help and it’s not like the girls have much of an opportunity to meet men.
@raven lmao
How selfish!
For a mother to say she is willing to leave her (20!!!) kids just to have another one is beyond reason.
I understand their religious beliefs, but good grief, sex causes babies, not God!
Figure it out..
@ OriginalKate
I have already made the correlation between eugenics and population control. The top eugenecists fund Planned Parenthood.
The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.
The reason I brought it up is because I often find that overzealous environmentalists are eugenicists. They treat humans as if they are parasites , which is a very dangerous attitude.
And I agree , this topic, is a complicated one, so maybe we should move on.
I have to wonder if the sexual revolution is to ‘blame’ in some peoples eyes, people finally were able to toss off the chains of shame and accept that sex was fun and not just for procreation. But they also realized that due to industrialization and urban living conditions vs. a family/labor based agrarian society having dozens of kids was financially irresponsible. Then along came birth control. I don’t personally think that birth control is eugenics but more of a personal choice as to sexual freedom. I know I never took the pill or used a condom to control the population for some nefarious reason, I just liked to have sex and was not interested in being a parent; I also accepted the fact that for a good portion of my early sexually active years I was not financially or emotionally ready to be a parent and to bring a child into those conditions would be unfair to a child. So the choice, my personal choice, was to either not have sex or use birth control and bang away, I chose the latter. But to each their own.
@Denise: I promise this is simply interesting to me, and I am not looking for an arguement.
When I was in college, I got birth control from Planned Parenthood, as did all of my friends from school. Are you getting the eugenics aspect of it from the fact that the services are free and that means primarily only poor people avail themselves of it?
She is more in love with pregnancies than with the idea of raising and guiding a child afterwards. She needs therapy.
God needs to hurry it up and bring this woman into menopause, already.
Definitely Verne Troyer’s baby.
Those two have made a mockery out of religion.
Can you say addition? I think she’s so used to having babies, she’s totally addicted to it. She doesn’t know what do with herself if she’s not pregnant – it certainly wouldn’t be raising the current kids, that’s way too boring for her, let the older ones do that. Also, if/when she knocks out another one and she dies in the process, who’s the dad going to continue to bang? He obviously has absolutely no restraint.
denise, I gotta say that birth control is not eugenics. At all. I’m on birth control pills because I’m 24, I like having sex with a certain person but I don’t want babies yet because we aren’t married and I’m too young.
Birth control is a form of population control, yes. And it’s a good thing. It’s also a personal choice because humans like to have sex but don’t always want kids out of the deal. I know I don’t yet.
But population control is not always eugenics. When people think “population control”, they almost always think controlling the NUMBER of people on the planet, not controlling the TYPE of people on the planet.
Eugenics is all to do with perfecting the human race by breeding out “bad” traits and only having children with “optimal” people. It is controlling the type of people creating “optimal” people, not controlling the actual number of people.
Eugenicists would be very happy if we had scores of “optimal” people on the planet.
A parasite is defined as something that depends on something else for it’s existence or support without making a useful or adequate return. Humans are pretty parasitic to this planet in my eyes.
I saw during one of their TV interviews that they have a sign-up sheet on refrigerator for their kids. It states: If you would like alone time with mom or dad please sign up. …
I think that says it all.
Why are people up in arms about birth control equalling eugenics? Intelligient people are the ones using birth control. Have you never waited in line at the grocery store behind those welfare loving moms with a bunch of kids? No fear they will be wiped out by birth control. As long as this country remains a welfare loving one the only people who will disappear one day are the intelligent ones.
Crash,
There is a certain oddity about some (and I stress the word some) people who oppose PP, first they get mad that a place offers free birth control to those who can not afford it (I used PP for my birth control and yearly Paps while I was in school), yet they are also often the same ones who pitch a fit about their taxes being used to take care of ‘poor welfare moms’. You can’t have both, either you prevent those women from getting knocked up in the first place or you pay for those kids until they are 18. Seems to me it is cheaper to provide birth control, family planning and sex ed than to support a bunch of families on welfare.
People have always done bizarre things in the name of god. How bout that crazy story about Abraham being told to murder his own son in the Bible? God delusion may be largely benign, but it has a very dark side.
I like the Duggars. I think they are kind people with good intentions towards their children, though I agree that the kids are given too few choices about the kind of lives they might live. I would like to know something which is absolutely NONE of my business, though. Does God demand that the two copulate every time Jim Bob gets the urge? I am honestly curious about that. Is it against God’s will to rely on the old hand for a few years? Is it against God’s will for Michelle to say to Jim Bob, “Honey, let’s do a little tantra tonight, instead.”
His name is really Jim Bob? Oh that has got to be a joke…
It’s their life to live. I just wish they’d get different haircuts.
“If that’s what God wants.”
How could God POSSIBLY want a mother of so many children to die and leave her babies? What the hell sort of God would think that’s a great idea? This was my problem with Christianity and the reason I quit the whole thing. God seems to “want” a lot of really fucked-up sad things, and his “plan” is crap.
The two of them are idiots. I absolutely loathe people who do idiotic things in the name of Christianity. Sure, in one verse in the Bible God tells Adam and Eve to ‘be fruitful and multiply’. But you have to take it in context with what else was going on at the time! The were the only people on the planet at that time (or something – a whole ‘nother interesting discussion).
Jim Bob is the head of his family and is supposed to be taking care of his wife and children. Instead he is endangering his wife’s health by continuing to have unprotected sex with her, and endangering his children of having to grow up without a mother (to say nothing of endangering yet another child’s life). And Michelle is not being a good mother by Christian standards, because she is endangering HER life and the lives of HER children.
They are lazy. Too lazy to read God’s word and then apply some critical thinking skills.
“A parasite is defined as something that depends on something else for it’s existence or support without making a useful or adequate return. Humans are pretty parasitic to this planet in my eyes.”
@TheHamm-thanks for having the balls to write what I was thinking while reading this entire thread (very interesting conversation btw). I didn’t want to offend anyone but personally, I completely agree with this statement.
@Crash2GO2 – I agree with you, 100%! I don’t understand why they don’t simply stop having sex. I can’t help but hypothesize that it’s because Jim Bob doesn’t want to. Methinks he should invest in a Fleshlight or something.
I think a woman as fertile as Michelle has a pretty regular cycle and knows fairly closely what days she is fertile for and I think they intentionally try to become pregnant. And in that case, it irritates me to call that God, that is biology.
I had pre-eclampsia with my son in the last 5 weeks of pregnancy and he was born fine. My doctor told me it usually happens w/ first kid and the second pregnacy is fine. Well when I got pregnant with my daughter at 32 weeks I got high blood pressure and by 33 weeks I was swelling and putting out protien in my urine. I was promptly put on hospitalized bedrest during one of the worst snow storms Seattle had in years. It was very difficult for my family including my 2yo son to visit me. My daughter was born at 35 weeks and luckily was very healthy and never had to go to NICU and came home after 6 days. Now she is almost 2 and is completely on target with her age and you’d never know she was a premmie. We were so lucky every thing went well and that we had access to great medical care. But my son still talks about when I was away from home, so it did effect him. I would never risk my life or my unborn childs life with another pregnacy. Drs told me I would probably keep getting it.
For them to deliver Josie at 25weeks means Michelle’s case was very bad and that along with her age puts her at risk for developing it again. It is just pure selfishness to attempt pregancy again and I don’t believe in a God that wants women to pop out babies regardless the risk to their health. Michelle He gave you a brain to go with the uterus so use it.
These people are disgusting. The exponential growth from this family will be astounding.
Why just one more? She’s only 44 and will be fertile for probably another six years. Why not at least four more?
Come on people, I seriously doubt she said any of this crap. I’m voting with the part where she said she wants to be around to raise her children. I think the uterus is closed. The backlash against them if she becomes pregnant again will be huge. I bet they are being advised to let the subject drop and quietly let her slip into menopause with Josie as their last kid.
“More than anything” she wants another child? So she wants another child more than she would like to live to see the 19 children she already HAS grow up! That’s pretty selfish, if you ask me. She isn’t thinking about her kids. It’s all about her and what she wants.
man, she does love the attention doesn’t she.
grotesque freaks.
Revolting. Can’t stand them, but feel sorry for the poor kids.
i’m just curious, but are the duggars against adoption, too? and if so, where in the bible does it preach against adoption? they confuse me.
These people are a disgrace to the human race. They are disgusting in their pathological need to create more children they will never really pay any attention to. Frankly, I think she is an addict. I think she is addicted to the pregnancy hormones and is probably in withdraws as we speak.
It is incredibly selfish to bring 19 children into this world and then be willing to abandon them just to bring in another one. That speaks to mental illness, not that we couldn’t already tell.
They don’t raise the kids, the kids raise the kids. Her job is to be pregnant. And look at what it has done for them, a TV show, a new house, they can afford clothes. Hey, this baby making thing might be a disgusting display of human over indulgence, but at least it’s paying the bills! lol!
These people should be sterilized. End of story.
Michelle Duggar is emotionally disturbed. She needs some serious therapy. In fact, I think everyone in that whole family could use therapy by now.
@GatsbyGal: “Methinks he should invest in a Fleshlight or something.”
Let’s by him one and mail it. Secret Santa!
Oh, and the baby, although kinda cute, also looks like a little monkey.
@Catherine: after having had to grow up in that zoo, fighting for crumbs of their parents’ attention, I would bet a dollar to a donut hole that those children, when they marry, will have one or two children at the most, and some will have none at all.
They belong to a religion called “Quiverful” where the women are subservient dogs and keep having child after child.
I get Jonestown vibes. I don’t mean that they are similar situations at all… it’s just, the delusion is so overwhelming.
“Let’s by him one and mail it. Secret Santa!”
i’m in! and can we get a “rabbit” for michelle, too? girlfriend shouldn’t be deprived.
Did “God” save that baby’s life 4 times? I guess the Doctors, nurses and all that high-tech equipment was just there for window dressing.
You know, i wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Duggars found some doctor who shares their beliefs about Quiverfull, and she’s on fertility drugs of some kind.
@ Crash2go2
I tried to respond to your question, but it did’nt pass moderation for some reason. I am all for birth control, esp. when the decision is made by a responsible party. If you’re not ready to be a parent and are taking the appropriate precautions, than that’s a good thing. My problem with Planned Parenthood is not it’s stance on safe sex and unwanted pregnancies, but when you really open it up and look at it. Planned Parenthood is the biggest performer of abortions. It’s founded by a eugenecist, we can’t deny that link. Geez I hope this passes moderation.
Whatever. This isn’t about God at all. If it were, Michelle and Jim Bob Hillbilly would view the complications with Josie’s birth as a possible sign from God that they need to STOP. But no, that’s not the case here, because it goes against what THEY want.
Anymore these two just leave me shaking my head. The only ones I feel sorry for here are the kids. Their futures are already planned out- grow up sheltered in religion, get married at 20, start procreating at 21. And the cycle begins again. God forbid one of them breaks away from this “cult.”
I am Christian and Catholic, but would never consent to having so many children that I had to rely on my older children to raise them. It is obvious this is happening now, while both parents are alive and well. The Duggars use God as a excuse for their baby addiction. I think it is weird that Michelle says “she would *like* to be around to see her children grow”.
That’s all, she would just *like* to be around. A mother needs more dedication than that to be a true, hands on mother. She would give her life to bring another baby into the world, a motherless baby I might add, but she wouldn’t take care of herself to make sure the children she has now have a mother.
Sorry Duggars, don’t put this on God. This is a real obsession with these two and the tragedy is that the obsession effects the lives of small, innocent children who are basically being told by their parents they are not important enough to make sure you have two parents to raise you. The older kids are being taken for granted and expected to parent because mom and dad have turned into baby hoarders. What a mess.
Good Lord. It’s not a clown car.
I don’t know the specific condition of this baby but based on what others have said previously, I’m going to assume that this baby may be immuno-compromised to a certain degree. I don’t have children but I’ve heard that pre-mature babies have weakened immune systems. If I had a premature baby in a hospital, the last thing I think I would want to think about is posing for a camera.
These people are famewhores. The fact that they can flippantly risk their baby’s welfare by agreeing to a photo opportunity and smile for cameras that exploit a very sick baby is dispicable.
I don’t watch the show or know if she really said she wants more children, but just based on this photo, I’m on team She-Really-Needs-To-Quit-While-She’s-Still-Alive and focus on the ones that she has. It’s their perogative to continue, but you don’t pimp your family life out and then not expect some judgement. Just sayin…
What are they ?? Pregnancy collectors or something???Good lord ,let’s introduce them to paper folding or online poker…or anything else.
Those people need a new hobby , fast .
“i’m in! and can we get a “rabbit” for michelle, too? girlfriend shouldn’t be deprived.”
YES YES! (screams Michelle Duggar while locked up alone in the bathroom)
I simply HATE IT when people are “putting the blame ” on God or the Devil for everything they do .by the way , God made me write that.
I feel a profound sadness for these kids…especially the idea of them having to use a sign-up sheet to get some personal time with mom or dad. Unbelievable!!
Shut that clown car vagina down and pay attention to the children you have!!
funny how this discussion devolved into eugenics, abortion, birth control … even the most rigorous theologian could accept jim bob just giving it a fracking rest once in a while.
If the Duggars inserted, “Wizard of Oz” instead of “God” into the logic behind being baby making machines, they’d be herded over to to the psych ward and the kids off to Social Services.
Below, I have dutiful changed it for proof of how stupid these people are:
The print edition of the Enquirer has the “if that’s what the Wizard of Oz wants” quote. Michelle supposedly “told a friend” that “I would like to be around to raise my children and see them grow – but only if that’s what the Wizard of Oz wants.
@GatsbyGal:
HA! YES.
Im done.
HAHAHAHA, FLESHLIGHT! Considering that she’s preg every other day, I wonder how often that marital aid of his would have to be cleaned out.
I have just grossed myself out. Vomit now.
Oh yeah, and the reason the baby looks weird is because she was a preemie. Most preemies are funny looking because they weren’t done cooking before they came out. Not that most newborns are attractive- they ain’t.
I pity this woman. 19 kids later and I’d bet anyone cash money she’s never had an orgasm in her life. I highly doubt Jim Bob is up to the job.
These people are like a carwreck…you hate to watch, but yet cannot look away. I think their wanting all these kids is horrific, and so sad for the older girls who blindly do as they’re told, and just assume that this is their lot in life. It makes me sad that these young women think that their lives are meant to be nothing more than ‘slaves’ to men, kids and home. Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing at all wrong with being a mother, I am on myself, but it’s not the end-all-be-all of my life. I have a college education, and have had the opportunity to get out and live before being tied down with motherhood.
This family should seriously look into adoption as an alternative to more children. They can brainwash the adopted ones as easily as their natural kids…just sayin’.
This has probably already been mentioned in the comments, but it drives me INSANE that she says it’s fine if she dies. I could give a shit if she dies, it’s the death of her future children that I’m concerned about. After seeing what Josie has gone through I don’t know how she continues to put herself first.
If I had 19 kids, I’d be ready to die, too.
@Karen: If I had 19 kids, I’d be ready to die, too.
🙂
I’ve done this before, but let me just put the numbers out there for people, to see the REAL goal of the Duggars and others who believe as they do:
Let’s say they end up having 22 kids (and Michelle is either alive or dead, doesn’t matter for the purposes of this exercise, but she ending up having 22)
Not all of them are going to marry and have children, but being raised in the mindset and with the unquestioning submission that they were, a great majority of them will.
So let’s say 19 of the 22 kids marry and have children.
Of those 19, let’s say they average 18 children each.
19 x 18 = 342 grandchildren
Out of those 342 grandchildren, 300 marry and have children. Those 300 grandchildren average just 15 kids each (remember, I’m saying average–some might decide they don’t like this shite and have fewer and others will go whole hog carrying it on).
So 300 grandchildren x 15 kids each = 4500 great-grandchildren.
Wait, look at that again. 4,500 great-grandchildren.
In just three generations, they have made a smallish to medium town.
4000 of those great-grandchildren have an average of 10 kids each (they’re getting further away from the religion and mindset, maybe).
4000 great-grandchildren x 10 kids each = 40,000 great-great-grandchildren.
WAIT, now add them ALL up!
22 kids + 342 grandchildren + 4500 great-grandchildren + 40,000 great-great-grandchildren = 44,864 people in FOUR generations.
A decent-sized small CITY of nearly 50,000 people that these two people have added to the earth.
Do you see why they’re doing it? It’ll never be enough. If she dies trying to have more, then Jim Bob (who doesn’t get as much flak, but should–he is the boss in their religion) will just get a young wife and start all over. HE could potentially have 40 or more kids.
There’s a disconnect with the notion that having this many kids is raising “God’s Army” for the second coming.
When the second coming happens, all those meant to enter the Kingdom of Heaven will…die. If you’re raising an army, where exactly are they supposed to fight if they’re all supposed to go to Heaven?
FFS. Let’s just call it what it is: Stupidity breeding more stupidity so that they don’t feel left out.
From Guinness World Records:
Most prolific mother ever
The greatest officially recorded number of children born to one mother is 69, to the wife of Feodor Vassilyev (b. 1707–c.1782), a peasant from Shuya, Russia. In 27 confinements she gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets and four sets of quadruplets.
Classic! she births 69 children and is listed as “the wife of…”
Preeclampsia is when the placenta becomes detached from the uterus. Pregnancy related high blood pressure is called Toxemia.
I’m so sick of hearing older kids taking care of younger kids. I never had to do this thankfully but I had friends from large families and they basically all raised each other-the parents were awol the whole time pretty much. It’s really not fair on kids to be dumped with that responsibility. If you want kids, look after them yourself! Why have them and then dump them with whoever??
Kami, I won’t use any anecdotal stories here to contradict you. Instead, I’ll just leave this:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/preeclampsia/DS00583
Preeclampsia is a condition of pregnancy marked by high blood pressure and excess protein in your urine after 20 weeks of pregnancy. Preeclampsia often causes only modest increases in blood pressure. Left untreated, however, preeclampsia can lead to serious — even fatal — complications for both you and your baby.
If you have preeclampsia, the only cure is delivery of your baby. If you’re diagnosed with preeclampsia too early in your pregnancy for delivery to be an option, you and your doctor need to allow your baby more time to mature, without putting you or your baby at risk of serious complications.
OMG this woman needs to keep a nickel between her knees, and this couple needs to be sterilized. Stat.
Kami, please check your terms. Placenta previa is a placenta at risk of detaching from the uterus. Pre-eclampsia is high blood pressure and kidney problems during pregnancy. The only cure is delivering the baby, and it you don’t control it, the mom can go into seizures and die.
If I had 19 kids, I’d be ready to die, too.³
🙂
*sigh*
I think God would want this woman alive and healthy (physically and mentally) to take care of her family …
Wow…while I may not agree with everything they are doing..all these calls for sterilization and “why don’t they just stop having sex” are a bit much. If anyone ever tells me to stop having sex in my early 40’s… I may as well give up.
They are probably just as obsessed with having kids as the number of people out there spending a gazillion dollars on fertility treatments.
Planned Parenthood saves lives. If you don’t like it, stay away from it.
Eugenics. My a**.
A TLC producer said to JimBob when he announced Michelle was pregnant with baby 19, “you sure do know how to keep a series going, JimBob!” JimBob laughed and shook his head. The Duggars are so proud of the baby counter and those babies sure do keep that series going and the $$$ flowing in, but when do the older Duggar girls get to have a life–get married and raise families of their own? After all, JimBob met Michelle at her job at the ice cream shoppe when he was 19 and she, 17.
I don’t like the comments either calling baby Josie “high maintenance” or “a lot of work” compared to previous babies in the family. Stop having high risk pregnancy, Michelle. Let your daughters have their own lives instead of expecting them to do your work/child rearing. (my sister asked me if your daughters would take over your wifely duties in every way if you died of childbirth)
Let’s get to the important stuff…
What the hell is with her bangs?
Jim Bob has reminded us of Rusty Yates from the first time we saw him. It’s basically the same sick shit. Going against medical advice and common sense to have babies, regardless of the danger and effect on the rest of the family. They are totally selfish and two of the biggest famewhores around.
Placenta previa is a placenta at risk of detaching from the uterus.
Actually this decribes placental abruption. Placenta previa is when the placenta partially or totally covers the uterus and requires a c section birth or the mother and baby can die.
Um, WTF?: “The top eugenecists fund Planned Parenthood”??? Educate yourself darling.
I am seriously scared of fanatical wack-jobs like these two. What you do is your choice, don’t put God in the middle, please.
And I really hope you two know who your kids really are, what their fears are and how to help them overcome those fears, what makes them smile, what their dreams are, what they think of you and what makes them go on. Because that’s what parenthood is about. Raising responsible, decent individuals. Not reproducing until you lose count.
OMG! I went to their website. Their home is like a hotel. Poor kids are like servants – they do everything. The bigger girls instead of enjoying their childhood or their time as teens are ironing daddy and mommys clothes, doing the laundry, cooking, cleaning or doing other chores. I did not see a single book in this house. The boys’ bedroom – army baracks style. Nothing personal, no individuality. It must be horrible.
I’m 41. Just had our 4th baby in May. I had to have a C-section (no choice; that’s a whole ‘nother rant!). During the C-section, after my son was out, both doctors looked at me over the drape and said “No more”. My doc said – “I don’t want to see you do this again. Your uterus was *very* thin. 1/16 of an inch at the thinnest part.”
Even if we had not already said this was the last baby, that would have sealed it for me right there. I know what can happen if a uterus ruptures: Mama dies, baby dies. A huge chance of it in any case.
Before the baby was born, we joked around about having another so that this baby wouldn’t grow up an only child, being that his siblings are so much older – the one closest in age is almost ten. We might have even been a little serious about one more. But once my doctor told me that, even the joking ceased. I will not risk my life and the life of a potential child by going through another pregnancy.
I am mourning not experiencing a pregnancy again – I loved being pregnant. It’s a special feeling to have that little life inside of you and to go through the body changes and have a relationship that only the two of you share. It’s truly wonderful. But I have little people here that are my responsibility too, and they trump my wanting to have another.
I have said all along the Duggars will have one more; I firmly believe they want to make it an “even twenty”. Besides, their friends the Bates are catching up with them; can’t let that happen you know. Oy.
blahblahblah “God’s will” blahblah.
with what happened to her it was obviously God’s will, that the 19. kid and her die. but they used all the technology in the world made by MEN to save them. interesting…
they are so frigging stupid, they should at least be consistent in their belief and not use any help that doesn’t come directly from GOD…doesn’t sound so appealing,huh?
Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do it.
I’m not surprised the Duggars want more children, but I think it’s like anything else in life, you need moderation. Just because you like cake doesn’t mean you should eat it 5 times per day, every day.
It’s almost sinful in my humble opinion, to keep procreating when it endangers Mom and/or baby.
@orion70: They are probably just as obsessed with having kids as the number of people out there spending a gazillion dollars on fertility treatments.
i think you’ll find that people who spend money on fertility treatments (and/or adoption) feel there’s a difference between fearing you’ll never have a child, and fearing you’ll never have a twentieth child.
I cant believe how hateful some of these comments are! Making fun of the childrens appearance ranks you at the top of the “bitter, sad life” list.
These people do not suck off the government dollar, they dont ask for assistance from anyone. If they chose to have more children, thats between them and God.
I understand that people are concerned about her willingness to die to have another child, but to attack their children is just disgusting.
Sorry but she is a selfish bitch. Its okay if she has a baby number 20, and it kills her because her other NINETEEN kids will be there to take care of them. Why does she need another child? Dosen’t the other 19 need a mother? One that they can talk too, go to for advice you know discipline them, be a actual parent! Oh never mind. I guess that is up to the father and the other siblings. GAG ME.
The baby appears to have down syndrome.
anon:
September 11th, 2010 at 12:4Um, WTF?: “The top eugenecists fund Planned Parenthood”??? Educate yourself darling.
Read below.
As the Founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger is considered a hero to many for bringing choice to women in America. However, it becomes obvious from Sanger’s own words and publications that she did not care about freedom of choice, but cared only for a superior race, and she had a plan to “prevent multiplication of this bad stock”.Sanger was a member of the American Eugenics Society. She was a eugenicist who wanted to forcefully sterilize people, she wrote many articles and books on the subject.
These people creep me out. Big time. And how fair is it to the rest of their kids? Aren’t the older ones practically raising the younger ones?? Sad.
If you feel the need to say negative things about adults thats one thing. But really, leave the comments about children out of it.
The level of negative comments about children is just disgusting.
The name of the site is Celebitchy not Childbitchy.
To think that the majority of people commenting here are woman and possibly mothers. They make these comments and it makes me wonder just how loving and supportive they are of their own kids if they can be so cruel to other peoples children.
Kaiser, you supposedly monitor comments, deleting those that humiliate and disparage children should be removed.
@JuJu: That’s a despicable thing to say. Have you ever actually seen a baby with Down syndrome? I thought not.
Denise, no source? Sloppy. There’s plenty of right wing propaganda around making these kinds of claims about Margaret Sanger coming from Christians and Muslims alike. She’s their enemy for wresting control of women’s reproduction from the hands of religious men. Try reading “Margaret Sanger-in Her Words” by Miriam Reed. There is so much disinformation out there on Sanger, who is such a hero to all women – especially the poor.
@ Trillion
Try reading Margaret Sanger’s The Pivot of Civilization, 1922, especially the Chapter on “The Cruelty of Charity,”.
“I did not see a single book in this house.”
mikunda, that is the most disturbing thing i have read on this thread thus far.
Religion has set the human race back beyond belief. We probably could have been exploring the galaxy by now.
These people are morons.
Frankly, I don’t understand this fixation for paying attention to your children. I mean, all right EACH child needs some attention. But having 2 or 3 and thinking you can’t give “more attention” is a poor excuse for having as few children as you can and wanting to have enough kids to be loved by them without wanting to give too much. And you call the Duggars selfish? LOL With all the money, time, attention and dedication it takes to raise 19 kids, most others – the really selfish ones – are into themselves, and teaching their kids that they (the kids) are entitled to everything – wow, how enlightened and educated it is AHAHAH
I get the feeling that in that family, Jim Bob = God.
So everytime I see Robo Michelle say “God wills this, or he wants that, she is really saying “Jim Bob wills this or Jim Bob wants that.”
And about Planned Parenthood – I have nothing but love for them. They practically saved my life. I don’t care how or who started the service, but today, you can’t deny they have helped women all over the world.
I think that is the important thing.
@Captaine – I completely agree. Religions are the potholes on the road to the future.
And @Denise – I copied the text you provided into Google. I know where your “information” comes from now. INFOWARS.COM. Alex Jones, really? Really?? You think he’s a good source? The man is a conspiracy theorist for crying out loud.
As this looong convo digressed into eugenics and birth control…I was at least heartened to know that so many people think this is really creepy. These whack job people with the whako “religion is on our side RAH!” methodology to life is positively Cro-Magnon….not that the Dimwits would know anything about that little theory called “Darwinism”
As you can see for yourselves….that theory may already be working.
Please may the Lord send some left wing crazy vasectomy knife wielding doctor to take Doofbob hostage and get this over with.
You guys are sad on here..why all the judging? If you don’t like them or the show..don’t watch. There are so many children being beat, whether they are with their natural parents or adopted. why don’t all of you find these families..talk about them on here & get those children some real help? The Duggars aren’t hurting anyone & by pointing fingers..it’s either jelousy or not having the sense to help others! May god bless all of you…
@orion70 They are probably just as obsessed with having kids as the number of people out there spending a gazillion dollars on fertility treatments.
Ooookay…I’m guessing you don’t personally know anyone who has HAD to pursue fertility treatments. After the traumatic loss of my 1st pregnancy that very nearly killed me as well, taking part of my reproductive system in the process, we also found out that my husband had “issues” w/his system. At that point, we looked into every possible option for adoption, but guess what? Most avenues of adoption cost MORE than fertility treatments, unless you do foster-to-adopt, and I couldn’t bear the thought of having a child given to me & possibly taken away if parents “got better”, got out of jail, etc. We weren’t *obsessed* with having a child who was our own; we just wanted to build our family & fertility treatments happened to be the less expensive of to ridiculously expensive ways to do it. We are very fortunate to now have 2 children, but I would happily adopt an older special needs child if my finances ever allow it.
Let this mentally ill bitch go ahead and have another kid. What the hell does anyone care? It’s obvious that she loves the attention and that there’s something WRONG with her. If she dies, so be it. There’s nothing that anyone can say to talk her stoopid ass out of it so let her go ahead and take the risks. Like I said, why does anyone give a shit???
I don’t believe that her pregnancies “just happen”. How the hell does anyone keep getting pregnant at her rate and her age without trying their damnest to do so?
she is as crazy as a loon and as addicted to fame as canalis, goselin and the rest of the talentless wannabees who use their children or their bodies to gain attention. she doesn’t care if she dies? what about her children? who will care for them? maybe she wants to die because the idea of having to raise the children she gave life to scares the crap out of her. she should have thought about that before she kept shooting them out…and yet she wants more and no body thinks that’s abnormal??? this last baby is scary looking..she looks very unnatural and unhealthy. are they rich? can they afford to raise these children through college? do they have help in the form of nannies and housekeepers? they and those like them appall me, but by all means keep giving them the attention they crave. that’ll teach them responsibility.
Her clown car uterus. She can do what she wants with it.
That said, I wish TLC would yank the plug on their show and the rest of the media needs to keep them out of the headlines as well.
Wack jobs don’t need their own reality shows and people magazine covers. They need psychiatric help.
I love it when people say “God bless you,” but what they really mean is “Go f*** yourselves.”
I will reiterate my theory that Jim Bob is trying to kill Michelle and the bitch won’t die! As soon as she’s gone and they have the sweeps week on TLC funeral, he can bring in the 20 year old second wife, sent to him by God, natch, to help him grieve. 20 more children later, he’ll have his own church made up of his progeny and be on the way to having his penis responsible for more people on earth than anyone else’s penis ever!
And why do creepy culty people always have THOSE BANGS?!
Did anyone else point out that Andrea Yates – who killed her 5 children – was also part of a family of Quiverfulls?
Exactly, she has said that she weans the babies at 5 months, so her fertility will return and she can get pregnant again. That is not God’s will, it is a sick race to see how many she can have before her uterus falls out in aisle 5 at the grocery store. Sure, it “just happens”.
Did anyone else point out that Andrea Yates – who killed her 5 children – was also part of a family of Quiverfulls
Yep, I said earlier in the thread that the whole thing reminds me of the Yates situation in that they go against medical advice and common sense. Also, Jim Bob is like Rusty Yates’s long lost twin zombie brother. The resemblence is creepy.
“I WANT another child and I’m not afraid to die to have one!”
Die, and abandon the million kids you already have. Yeah, that’s not selfish and psycho at all.
C’mon menopause, don’t fail us now!
I hear her talking about children and he just whips it out without a thought. They say that they are responsible people, but somehow, it doesn’t jive.
Also, as a non-christian, I take some offense at having this clearly religious
family show cased on TV. I know I do not have to read or watch them…though, like those other stardom-ho’s, the Gosselins, you can’t escape them.
I don’t see the “Little People” screaming out about fertility issues etc. I am tired of reality shows anyway. My life is real enough, thank you. Someone else’s dysfunction and pathology I do not want to get involved with. I’ll stick with the sexy vampires.
One thought for all you irresponsible Christians who reproduce like rabbits: ABSTINENCE!!! God, in marriage, allows you to have sex, but he does not force you to have sex.
You are all quick to judge. But everyone (that includes you) reacts in life to their beliefs. These people believed in god and used contraception and lost the baby. They then BELIEVED (incorrectly) they had been punished. They basically live in fear of god and want to do the right thing to please him. This is why religion is such a pain in the butt! They need healing to help them overcome the loss of that child early on, and I bet you they both cry when told it was NOT their fault for using contraception and it failing and they got pregnant anyway. It was just one of those things. I feel for them. Next time you want to blame someone, look at your own beliefs and how they make you say, act, and do things that do not make sense to others. Judgement achieves nothing you know!
@denise: Try reading Margaret Sanger’s The Pivot of Civilization, 1922, especially the Chapter on “The Cruelty of Charity,”.
try reading it yourself. it doesn’t support the point you’re making.
I think this woman is worse than octomom
Of course the’re so happy and blessed! she has the older kids baby sitting the youngest ones which will be nice once in a while but it is very selfish of her to have her other kids do HER job as a mother. She needs to have her kids grow up normal and normal is not running the daycare this woman has created
I don’t care how well off she is, she can’t take care of all kids equally.
@Awful- I’m still laughing at your post (very true though!)
Shandi and Odie …am peeing in my pants at your posts!!! Until something was said about that horrible Andrea Yates debacle I was kind of thinking the same thing. Personally if I were the DA in Houston I would have brought him up on charges of child endangerment AND cruelty. How many MEDICAL PROFESSINALS have to tell you to stop or someone is going to lose an eye???? That cretin moron Rusty should be in the slammer with his wife. I would not wish a mental illness on my worst enemy but Andrea Yates needs to be in a psychiatric facility…NOT PRISON! That’s where her “could not wait for the bitch to be sent up for life ” beloved huband should be. BTW…he married very shortly after he was divorced and has probably started all over. As for The Dimwits..I can guarantee you continuouly being pregnant is not Michelle’s idea. They believe in female subserviance and she is locked in a Stockholm Syndrome.
Creepy!
I think china has the right idea with putting a cap on how many kids a family can have…
@dense, (typo, it stays)
Oh sure, because telling someone to “chew on this” is NOT AT ALL HOSTILE! ::eyeroll::
Message board eugenics would come in handy right now.
@gulfstreamga: Andrea Yates is in a psychiatric facility.
too bad Darwinism fails here: theyve already passed on their screwball genes.
Jan, I think you need some sort of analysis. And a dictionary.
Does anyone else think Josie is just crying out for help with those pitiful eyes?
There’s something to be said for semantics. They know that they have detractors, how couldn’t they? I’m just starting to think about people on the boards chiding others for ‘judging’ the family unfairly. I have the feeling that you’re donating sympathy to people who (at least on some level) don’t want it. They’re being *persecuted* and that is a mighty, mighty powerful word in religious discourse. If one were so inclined, he could force (in some avenues) an alignment between naysayers who want to shun them and the sufferings of Christ. He preached love and unity and all of that good stuff, so how better to display your conviction than to keep on the path, especially as they’re increasingly despised? And it’s this public revolt that is yet more proof that their mission is divinely ordained. Look at how the evil world wants to decimate our quiet, loving Godly lifestyle, OF COURSE we need an army, this world is moribund and Hell-bound!
Maybe one could say that the actions weren’t hurting people around baby twelve or something, but that poor little infant girl had such a rough start in life, one beyond what a lot of people ever have to endure or comprehend. She’s already been fighting for her whole life, she’s tired. Forget the damned mandate for a nanosecond and just be with your baby. One can only hope that the rest of her life is medically uneventful, but there’s a real chance that that will not be the case.
That’s where the hurt lives, in investing an unborn child with the responsibility of saving the world through the combat over souls. How can one even think of that precious little baby being prepped to take up that mantle when the fight for her own life was so, so enervating? No, I don’t truly know anything about the family, but stories like this are disheartening, because it’s pretty hard to disprove that they see their children as means to an end. Maybe I’m just too much of an outsider to their way of life (I’ve never used Final Net), but for better or worse, the burden of proof is on them, not me.
So, I’m betting that they love the infamy–to some degree, and not just because of the monetary rewards. We’re just re-affirming their entire mandate. The naysayers are the drugs, the sympathisers are enabling, and TLC is the greatest, more fearsome drug lord of them all. Heh, maybe that’s why they’re so opposed to liquor, they’re getting all the kicks they want already. Not like they need it anyway, you think if he’s feeling in the biblical way she’s not giving it up? Booze is redundant and another cost.
Remember when watching TLC wasn’t something about which one didn’t have to be embarrassed? Remember The Operation? Now I visit my family over the weekend, and I find out that something called ‘Sister Wives’ is being loosed upon the planet. Ugh, motherfucker!
No, seriously. I think I heard rumblings that a new show called ‘Motherfuckers’ is set to premiere during February sweeps.
Thanks, TLC.
Yours in Christ,
The Bastardized World
isnt it said that “God helps those who help themselves”. Wouldnt that mean helping yourself by using birth control and exercising a little thing called free will so you dont die giving birth to another child. These people creep me out
Amazing how the uninformed can be so critical and malicious about a situation they don’t understand. Quite a number of women have children up into the double digits, some have more than twenty. In Mexico, it’s very common among Catholica familias – and it’s a sign of wealth. Here you don’t hear much about them as they’re not on a reality show. But of the families I know, migrant families, many receive public assistance. The Duggars do not.
From what I saw of the Duggars on the one or two programs I watched? They are happy, healthy, self-sustaining, and have a home life that is far better than the majority of those I visited as a home pediatric nurse.
And having a child prematurely won’t damage it for life, the majority grow up without any issues. Nor should you opt to not have any more children on an episode of eclampsia. The risk is higher for a second occurrence, but lots of women opt to get pregnant again following an eclamptic premature birth.
So just as a number of you are demanding this woman be sterilized, you probably are pro-abortion and don’t want anyone telling you what to do with your body. Climb down out of your ivory tower of self-righteousness and just be glad the Duggars aren’t on government assistance or delivering crack-addicted babies they turn over to the State. You pay for at least 60 years of around-the-clock care for a child born with severe mental and physical defects due to drugs – and there is nothing that you can do to stop a crack-addict female from getting pregnant over and over again.
@ Sumodo I’m so sorry for your loss.
“Hello Nurse”, it is ABSOLUTELY dangerous and unhealthy to have dozens of babies. That’s why those women are prone to prolapsed uteruses, where everything basically falls out and hangs there.
At the very least their pelvic floors are irreparably damaged and often need surgery, as in the case of my mother in law. But you think you are better informed about the dangers than those of us with actual first hand knowledge? Apparently not. Did you order your nursing certificate at the website that does those HUrvard DegriEs?
Your bizarre turn onto crack babies actually works for me, because crack addicts are crazy assholes and the Duggars are crazy assholes.
I think these people should be locked up, there is something wrong with them, this is just insane..I mean all the Duggar do is screw like rabbits and then have more kids for their other children to look after, she should be put in a mental or at least fixed or something.
Who are we to judge someone’s religion? You should ignore social responsibility, human rights, and your own well-honed instincts to show respect for all belief-systems. Even cultish abusive ones.
Some people, like the Duggars, believe that the best mommy is a dead one. And who are we to judge? STOP BEING SOOOOOOO JUDGEMENTAL!!!
Plus, people who aren’t on government assitance and who seem nice on television are exempt from all social criticism.
What is missing is that both of the Duggars should be wearing matching t-shirts that say : Pornstar.
DON’T BLAME THIS ON GOD! I am tired of people saying that Christianity & God is “WHAT” is responsible for the Choices that the Duggars have made! HELLO, God gives us free will, to make our own choices! I am a Christian & I believe in God & I read the Bible. But, I do not agree with the Choices that other people or even some Christian make & then do so, IN THE NAME OF GOD. I have 5 beautiful children & I love children. I probably would have had more, if it were not for the events that surrounded the birth of our youngest daughter. She was born premature with a compromised immune system & other special needs. She has had multiple surgeries and has required years of special care. I would have been selfish to have another child, even if the desire to do so was there. It has been more than 13 years since my daughters birth & my family & I are still living with the pain & the strain that my youngest daughters birth caused. Not to mention the affect that it had on our family. I still feel truly blessed for having “ALL” of my children. Even my disabled daughter. She has brought about so many blessings to my life. But, I knew when to stop. God gave me a big job caring for her & the other kids. I believe that it was a sign for me to continue to be focused on what I had. I believe that the recent dangerous pregnancy & premature birth of little Josie, was a sign from God to the Duggars. Michelle & Jim Bob need to look at the beautiful blessings that they do have & focus on them. They do not know how close they cheated death with this last pregnancy, for both Mother & Child. I have been there! I suffered 4 miscarriages, I buried 1 of my baby girls, & I have cared for my children & disabled daughter as well as trying to run a household & being the best Wife & Mother that I can be. It is very hard. You have to reassess your life & family & really focus on what is important. Offering your kids Love & Guidance, spending a lot of time with them, teaching them good values & morals & helping them become a productive member of our society. That is “WHAT” it is all about! In the Duggars defense…. I will say however, I have watched the show from the beginning & followed them before the show. I don’t believe they are part of a Cult. I think they have misinterpreted Gods word when he talk about being fruitful & multiplying. I think the Duggars simply love children and have done a pretty darn good job in (almost) “ALL” categories when it comes to parenting. The older kids DO get out. They have gone on vacations and have participated in activities without there younger siblings. They have gone to camp outings & have had a lot of fun times away from home & away from younger siblings. You have to admit….. These Duggar Kids have a great giving & loving heart. They like to give of them selves & to others in need like when they took that trip to help others in need in another country. I think that is a GREAT thing to teach our children to be givers of themselves. I think the Duggars kids have better manners than most of the selfish kids in todays society. For the most part, they are developing into well rounded children with good character & good values. You would’t find 1 of those Duggar kids “ever” stealing from you or destroying public property or cussing you out or thinking that… The world owes them everything, like the kids now days do. People need to focus on there own kids instead of the Duggars. I actually put a lot of blame on the media & the show for the pressures that I feel have clouded the Duggers judgement to STOP having more kids. One has to be honest, Even the Duggars. Once you have your own TV series, like they do, you can easily get sucked into justifying your actions to keep the show on going. If there is no more show called 19 kids (AND COUNTING), Hello…… (AND COUNTING) is the key word here. What would they call it? I bet the show would get CUT! I would like to see something like this for a show: THE PROPER PARENTING & CARE OF 19 KIDS!
“Some people, like the Duggars, believe that the best mommy is a dead one. And who are we to judge? STOP BEING SOOOOOOO JUDGEMENTAL!!!”
AHAHAHA! Pirouette, you made me choke on my coffee! 😀
I feel bad for all the kids. What must it be like to be 5, 10, 15 years old and hear your mom say she’s willing to die and leave you, just for the chance to have baby #20?
I also feel bad for them because I’m guessing every one of them is being guided right into this lifestyle for themselves, and will never have any other options.
At this point I really think it’s all to keep the TV show and media appearances going, which is really sad.
Ok Rawks..how about jealous? Anyway, if you pay their bills then you can tell them what to do. It’s still a shame the ppl. on here are so mean..no wonder the world hates so many AMERICANS! How & why would you talk so bad about your neighbors? They are not here to plz any of us. Either you’ve been beat, childless Or something weird is going on in most of your lives. Did you ever hear..LIVE & LET LIVE??? When I say…God bless all of you…I mean exactly what I say! Pray, not judging, will get gods’ attention!
I’ve read through all the comments here. One side is not going to change the other’s view or what the Duggars do in the end. America is about freedom of choice. God too allows us choice. No one has the right to think they know what the Duggars should do for the Duggars will answer to God alone.
As for the posters here, I’ve read the comments on the bottom picture. Sometimes, yes, it does disturb me that they appear so happy with their micro-preemie. But then I think, would I want to see them crying about her? Here’s a baby they didn’t even know for sure whether would survive through the birth. I know I’d be happy even with all the tubes and such that she was alive. And look at Josie now. What a long way she has come! Someone said she looks like she has Downs. What a statement! She’s been tested for all kinds of abnormalities and she is fine. Even if she had a handicap, would that make her less of a person? What does that say about our society when we judge human worth that way? Although I would not say voluntary sterilization is eugenics (although it could be used that way if forced upon someone), I would say placing value on an individual’s life by the factor of whether they will benefit society in the way the determining party’s ideology stands is way too close to what Hitler and the Socialistic party tried to do in the third Reich. Scary. Do you people realize what you are saying when you say that the Duggars should be forceably sterilized? Leave the Duggars alone.
Mama Besser….that was the most succinct, organized “my feelings exactly” post I have read so far. THANK YOU!! You are quite the writer!!! And actually were almost paralelling my thoughts….Naysayers ARE the weapon of theses cults. Nothing but fuel to their nutbag ideology. We good and of ‘God’..you bad and of the devil. Makes so much sense.
Thankyou to the other poster about Andrea Yates. …glad to know she is in a hopital and not prison.I stand corrected. That whack job hubby of hers still pisses me off.
And as a stepmom to a 26 year old man/child born under almost the exact same circumstances…The Dimwits have NO IDEA the road they are about to travel…I’m sure any poster out there with a special needs child knows that when they “grow up” it is only the start of even more travails. So Michelle and Doofbob….even though your odds go exponentially through the roof of having a repeat OR worse..please do not let any of us “naysayers” pee in your Wheaties..Go for it!! And spend all the rest of your life fighting to keep your special needs kids interests taken care of. The only positive thing to say is you are not feeding at the public trough….that being said…stop and consider what you are about to visit on some innocent who did not ask to be here.
What else can you expect from a couple that follows the teachings of a man opposed to adoption because ‘the child inherits the sins of the father’? And isn’t it possible that ‘be fruitful and multiply’ was a blessing and not a commandment? At any rate, these parents are disgustingly selfish. The mom never demonstrates affection toward a kid once it sheds its ruffled baby bonnet and learns how to walk and talk. The dad just struts around looking pleased- big surprise since males reap far more benefits in Quiverfull families. The eldest offspring should be enjoying wholesome supervised events where they can meet prospective spouses, but are too buried under laundry piles and chore packets. They are forced into crewcut-and-polo or crimped-hair-and-dowdy-skirt clone-dom. I think Pa Duggar is an egomaniac. And how horrible must Michelle’s children feel to hear their mom say she’d gladly risk her life and her presence in their lives? Sheesh, even the Roman Catholic church says the ‘rhythm method’ (natural family planning) is acceptable. Viewers shouldn’t buy into the Duggars’ sugar-coated tripe.
Does this broad not realize it was her kid who almost died? I wouldn’t be surprised if it had severe brain damage. But I guess that’s “God’s will.” I think her God needs to speed up the whole menopause process, because the last thing that family needs is more kids for the older kids to take care of.
Keep it in your pants, Jim-Boob! The only reason they aren’t on welfare is because TLC/Discovery pays her to keep popping those kids out!
I, out of morbid curiosity googled the “Quiverfull” philosophy and talk about scary….?? This is a screaming CULT!!! They are patriarchial and pathetic. They make the FLDS look positively normal.
What motivates people to do this insane crap?? And as someone else pointed out not all of this cults followers have the means that the Dimwits do to take care of their “arrows”…their description of their children not mine. In that event they follow a philosophy of “Bleeding the Beast” as do the FLDS. That is Biblical code-speak for bleaching the mainstream taxpayer with anything that is available to them…I’m so grateful I get to work 50+hours a week so they can keep poppin’ em out.
I am no advocate of governmnet interference in anyones beliefs, but it is as clear as glass they are knowingly perpretating fraud by their actions.Too bad the spineless gelatinous “government officials” who CAN take action do not. The reason??? No one wants to be open and candid to the taxpayers for fear of being drawn into some contrversy about their “religion”.
What a country!!
I do say as a Christian you have to rely on your faith…but when we as Christians act like God has complete control of our choices and we can do whatever we want is another. I love the Duggars, but I dont want poeple to loose respect for Christians either. Why wouldnt you want to just say “Thank you God for blessing me with 19 kids.” “I think I will train them the best way possible and stick around in this life as long as I can to watch them grow God’s Kingdom with their love and talents.”
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did they ever think that maybe God didn’t want them to have sex every single day.
they might have an awesome sex life. haha
It’s not up to me to judge them but my human opinion based on Christianty is that they are addicted to having children, they have the will to not have sex as much or at all.
“to occupy (oneself) with or involve (oneself) in something habitually or compulsively.” This speaks of an unnatural (for the Christian, at least) obsession with anything other than God: sports, work, shopping and/or acquiring “stuff,” even family or children is addiction. We can conclude, then, that an addiction to anything other than God Himself is wrong. God is the only thing we can (and should) occupy ourselves with habitually. They may feel GOD wants this for them but it is only an excuse for their addiction. GOD may give life, but that doesn’t mean you should abuse the privilege.