James Franco wanted to be in ‘Breaking Dawn’ but only for performance art

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Last week, some excerpts of James Franco’s Playboy interview surfaced, and CB already covered the portions that included Franco’s continued refusal to take any responsibility for his awful turn as an Oscar host as well as his legitimate disgust over the “gay rapist” blind item that was pinned upon him. Now, Playboy has published the full piece online. As expected, it’s a doozy of an discussion wherein, among many other points, Franco declares that he really wanted a part in Breaking Dawn, but director Bill Condon didn’t bite. Naturally, Franco intended to use the role as performance art, which is also a term that he uses to describe Twitter; and (in a rare move) he makes a slight admission of handling Twitter the wrong way (remember those public temper tantrums?). However, those self-referential brownie points quickly disappear when Franco preemptively disassociates himself from his role in Rise of the Planet of the Apes (here’s the trailer). Essentially, Franco takes great care to explain that everything in life is performance art, except when it’s not. When it comes to making the distinction between the two, well, the line is obviously quite blurry. Let’s do this, shall we?

On Using Twitter (Including The Hand-Down-The-Pants Photo) As Performance Art: I couldn’t do Twitter the conventional way. I resisted the idea of posting comments, opinions; I felt they weren’t worth anything. I also felt that if I had something worth saying, I’d put it in an essay or a story, not on Twitter. So I thought Twitter was where I’d post cool photos and videos–a kind of collage, an outlet where I could just throw my scraps–and I posted some of a big art project I was doing. I knew people in the art community would see them as art, but they were perceived as something else.

I thought, It’s my account; I can post anything I want here. But I had underage followers on Twitter. Don’t follow me or Lady Gaga if you’re underage. Some companies I work with reminded me that my image is now connected with their image and they were not happy.

Somebody writes or says something about you that can be upsetting, and your first reaction is to want to write back–and usually the first reaction is an angry one. I personally do not do my best thinking when I’m angry. Before Twitter, I always had that buffer period when I could actually think and decide, Is this worth it? You respond to someone and it immediately goes out to hundreds of thousands of people and becomes a big thing that people report. For me Twitter is a dangerous thing.

On Rise of the Planet of the Apes: Here’s my guess: Critics will be out to kill this movie and blame me for it just because they are out to kill me. Last year people were pretty nice. This is the year when people are going to have fun going after me. I don’t feel the same way about Rise of the Planet of the Apes as I do about 127 Hours or Milk. It was a ­different kind of acting.

Because I’m in the digital and media department at Rhode Island School of Design, it was fascinating for me to get to work with Weta Digital, the company that also did The Lord of the Rings and Avatar. I also got to work with Andy Serkis, who plays the ape Caesar and did a lot of motion capture. I never thought of this movie as an example of my creativity. I was an actor for hire. But people still have it out for me, so they’re going to go after the movie.

They haven’t shown me the movie yet, so I don’t know what the result is. I did reshoots, and it sounds to me the final movie will be different from the screenplay, which had a lot of character development. The movie seems to be more action now. I went and did my job, and I’m supposed to be a scientist. I feel pretty confident that I did that.

What strikes me, looking back at [the original Planet of the Apes] movies now, is that they had really good actors, including Kim Hunter and Roddy McDowall, in these crazy masks, and they were having pretty interesting philosophical conversations about society, the ethics of interacting with other ­societies and mysterious cultures. It’s fun to see those kinds of conversations and issues. In the later movies it becomes about race and social upheaval, so the movies were kind of comments on current issues. The older movies can get away with that with their cult value. Rise of the Planet of the Apes is not a bunch of apes sitting around having philosophical discussions.

On How He Wanted To Do A Twilight Movie: I had my agent tell [director] Bill Condon that I’d be happy to do anything in Breaking Dawn, but that was because it was supposed to be part of a multimedia project at Yale. I was working with a Yale undergraduate who had written an autobiographical play about putting on a theatrical production of Twilight in which I was a character. So I was interested in Twilight because I was going to be part of that play. I thought what a great connection it would be if I were also involved with the real Twilight.

On How Bloggers Accuse Him Of Coasting On His Fame Through Academia: It’s a great thing. When people heard I was in all these academic programs, the reaction for some person I don’t even know was to take a picture of me sleeping at Columbia. It wasn’t even in class; it was a 10 p.m. optional guest lecture. But people love to post that picture on the internet and criticize me for taking a spot away from somebody else who would really care about the lecture. ­People sleep in class at all my schools all the time and nobody posts their pictures.

Because if someone from Gawker or any of those blogs wants to say I’m “the superstudent” or “the stoner student,” it takes the edge off this public persona that others have created for me. I can just slip under the radar and do my work without being bothered. They will perceive you however they want to anyway.

People from these horrible blogs came to my book party for Palo Alto last year. Normally I don’t care, but it’s like your worst enemy showing up at your birthday party, like, “Why are you here? Get the f&**k out of my party.” But it gave me a chance to see that a lot of the people writing for these blogs are just people my age who are in the same writing programs I was–or trying to get into those programs. So it was like, “Oh, so you’re just one of my classmates who doesn’t like me. That’s what this is all about?”

I’ve been perceived as this guy yelling, “Hey, look at me. I want attention.” I’m not going to school to get articles written about me. I’m just going to school. But the fact that I’m going to school or that someone takes a picture of me sleeping is like, “We’re gonna jump on that and criticize him for his antics.” What antics? I write. I make movies. I’m going to school. I hosted the Oscars. I take these projects seriously.

[From Playboy]

There’s much more to the interview, including Franco’s strange rant on how even his (recurring) role on “General Hospital” is performance art. In fact, he’s very bummed out that the show might go off the air because he was planning on tying the role in with some school project. Of course, Franco claims to take school so seriously and separates it from his silly “performance art” label, which is (let’s face it) just a blanket excuse that he uses to dismiss things that go wrong. Like, if he doesn’t take things seriously, why should we blame him if a project flops? At the same time though, he does claim to take these things seriously. This contradiction, and Franco’s oblivious denial of such, leads me to believe that the guy might just have a breakdown someday. I do hope that this isn’t the case because, underneath all of the douchiness, Franco appears to be a benevolent soul.

However, I do find it interesting that Franco is justifying his participation within Rise of the Planet of the Apes upon a really great script that has somehow disappeared through a series of reshoots. Obviously in his mind, when Franco signed on, this was an Oscar-caliber movie, but now? Not so much.

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33 Responses to “James Franco wanted to be in ‘Breaking Dawn’ but only for performance art”

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  1. Eve says:

    James Franco really thinks he’s the shit. I love the Weekend Update spoof where they mocked his non stop attempts at almost every single “art” available out there. He ends up cleaning Seth Meyer’s desk. Loved it.

    But I also loved how hard Jesse Eisenberg tried to keep a straight face while Franco ranted and, particularly, when he said “I went to film school”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKVnq0G0SE

  2. Sloane Wyatt says:

    What a self aggrandizing idiot!

    Franco desribes Twitter as “outlet where I could just throw my scraps”. Yuck.

    I’d like to throw his scraps back by pelting him with eggs and rotten vegetables Old Style, showing exactly what I think of his performance.

  3. Boo says:

    I cannot find even one thing to like about this guy.

  4. Ursaline says:

    “Performance Art” or not, I think it’s kind of cool that he took the benefits of his stardom and used them to fulfill academic pursuits that might otherwise not be available for him. Most actors and students in art/drama programs put up with the people who take themselves too seriously, but I think he does a decent job keeping grounded. He’s young and has the freedom to explore options and get paid while he does it. Who wouldn’t go for that?

    And I really enjoyed him in 137 Hours. Hmmmm…

  5. Madisyn says:

    When big mouths happen to good actors. Nuff said.

  6. Nanea says:

    Performance Art?

    I wonder how the regular actors on projects like GH think about that.

  7. Liz says:

    I used to have kind of a crush on this guy that even my boyfriend knew about, but then this “performance art” thing got serious and I got bored.

  8. Praise St. Angie! says:

    this guy needs to shut it.

    I used to like him…a LOT. I would defend him for some of his antics…but JAYSUS…every time he opens his mouth he comes off as more and more douchey/self aggrandizing (thank you Sloane)/pedantic.

    JUST STOP ALREADY, and get back to being a quality actor.

  9. XIOnce says:

    I don’t get what’s the big deal about him. I really don’t. I don’t find him particularly smart, or funny or even that talented. I think he’s a kid who puts a lot of “cool” sounding stuff together and rolls with it. Just my opinion.

  10. Quest says:

    STFU!!!! Please.

  11. ThirdChris says:

    I used to really like this guy until he started talking. STFU already!!

  12. Blue says:

    He’s a douche bag who thinks he’s deep and intellectual. He reminds me of Gaga, they both say some random shit, to make themselves seem like deep thinkers, and being outside of the box. But it makes me think STFU.

  13. lucy2 says:

    I’ll add another STFU. Time to climb out of your own ass, James.

    I saw a theater preview of that Apes movie, it looks beyond HORRIBLE. The whole audience was unimpressed and kind of laughed at it, and it was not a funny trailer.

    He managed to name drop 3 different universities in a few paragraphs, LOL, because he constantly has to remind everyone. He’s like Gwenyth, but with schools instead of Jay Z.

  14. Amy says:

    I think he takes school so seriously because he went back to school later in life.

    So I think it’s great he’s into all this academic stuff but I think his mistake is trying to tie his studies into Hollywood projects. He comes off as condescending when he’s all “I just wanted to be in this movie so it could be part of a project for Yale” or whatever. Then with his weird “performance art” comments, he sounds like a cross between Gaga and John Mayer and I never tend to follow those rants very closely because I have no idea what those people are talking about.

  15. DetRiotgirl says:

    Good lord, I cannot stand this guy! My eyes actually started to hurt from rolling so hard while I read that interview. The world according to Franco… Ugh, BARF.

  16. grace says:

    I really read and can’t see what is so “douche” about him. He has valid points about twitter, imo. And he is aware that, after the Oscar, people are going after him, and he predicts that it will happen in the next movie as well. People are blaming him for Your Highness, and he is not even the major character, and the Oscar winner is there as well, but nobody blamed her.I don’t get it.
    I think that he should have apologized for behaving weirdly at the Oscar. However, he was being nominated, and I would be stoned too if I were in his shoes. He didn’t, now people will blame him forever for whatever reason. Whatever. He still makes a lot of money out of it, so good for him.

  17. bluhare says:

    Lady Gaga, meet James Franco.

    James, meet Lady Gaga.

    Separated at birth.

  18. Dorothy#1 says:

    I still like him!

  19. Monique says:

    LOVE the Franco! I don’t know why people get so upset over him. I think its great that he is going back to school and juggling so many projects. Way cooler than spending money on some tacky wedding. I think he’s brilliant and I love that he is always blending performance art with real life all the time. And he does it all with a sense of humour.

    And wtf – he wrote/directed a movie about Hart Crane? I had to read Hart Crane once. That is some heavy poetry. I gotta respect him for going there!

  20. RocketMerry says:

    Aww, I sort of like him. Just keep your ego under control, James, and you’ll be fine.

  21. the original bellaluna says:

    Oh, thank goodness! I mis-read that as Red Dawn and just thought, NO. No sir. Not EVER.

    The conceited douche is strong in this one.

  22. Elfie says:

    He reminds me of Gaga and Gaga reminds me of him.

  23. Beatrix says:

    @bluhare. There was a blind item about an “avant garde” pop star and like minded, closeted actor who are secret besties. Think we found them!

    Anyway, I don’t think Franco is a douchebag. I think he is messing with everyone’s head.
    No one wants to believe that an extraordinarily talented, Ivy League actor ain’t a tool.
    People are loving to hate him and he doesn’t mind the attention.

  24. ctkat1 says:

    Or, you know, “I did Rise of the Planet of the Apes because all of this tuition is expensive and I only get paid scale for the independent films so I had to do a big Hollywood film in order to fund all of my other projects.”

    Or even, “In order to be able to do the types of films I want to do, you have to do ‘one for the studios’ every so often and that’s what I did.”

    You know, like pretty much every working actor does- Natalie Portman in ‘Thor’, Peter Sarsgaard in ‘Green Lantern’, Christian Bale in “Terminator”, every amazing British actor in ‘Harry Potter’ (those films are amazing, but hardly in the wheelhouse of most of those actors), etc.

    He’s coming off as such a douche here.

  25. Violet says:

    I love how he tries to justify his pursuit of less artistic roles by tying them to his school projects. Yeah, right.

    The guy is a pretentious whiner who doesn’t take responsibility for his failures. Why on earth would anyone want to work with a loser like that?

  26. kaligula says:

    i had a dream that i met him and he was NOT nice at all

  27. Jen34 says:

    He has too thin a skin for Hollywood. He needs to toughen up a bit. I don’t think he sees how arrogant he sometimes appears. I get the impression that he’s basically a sweet kid who sometimes unknowingly wanders into douche territory.

  28. Melancholy says:

    Well put, Jen34.

  29. kris31 says:

    I wonder if he’s team Jacob or team Edward..

  30. AM says:

    performance art? He need’s to remove his head out of his butt

  31. riddle me this??? says:

    @ Praise St. Angie “JUST STOP ALREADY, and get back to being a quality actor”

    WHAT! hhhhhhhahahhhahh you d know it says james franco.

    He needs to stop sucking his cock and realize that 127H is as close as he’ll come.

  32. Meanchick says:

    Who ordered the shutty sandwich?

  33. anybody says:

    “shutties!! just … ssshhhhhh!! Let’s just make out… Let’s play “Here comes the sun.” on your car radio…
    Hm? Okay, Janes, I mean James… yeah, okay…. (chuckle) You’re turning me off here, buddy! Just keep quiet okay?!”

    SHEEESH, not even in my fantasy can he shut up!!