Halle Berry got death threats from a stalker, which is why she wants to move to France


I feel like every day when I read news about Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry’s custody battle I change allegiances, although lately I’ve been firmly in the “team Nahla, her parents are whacked” camp. This latest story about Halle’s very serious death threats from a stalker has me feeling sorry for her and understanding why she would want to move overseas. (Until I read the counter argument, which is covered below.) Yesterday it looked like Halle was moving to France out of spite because she can’t legally strip Gabriel of visitation rights, but that might just be an added bonus for her. Not only is Halle’s stalker just out of jail, there’s also a crazy dude who wants to kill her (and Madonna) who just escaped from an insane asylum. It sounds like something out of a movie, but then so does most of Halle’s life. Here’s the story, from E!:

E! News has confirmed that the Oscar winner filed a request in family court to be able to move to France with her daughter Nahla because she fears for her life.

Two men, including one convicted of stalking Berry, are no longer locked up and the actress has no interest in finding out what their plans are now that they’re out.

But wait, how did her convicted stalker get out again?

Richard Franco pleaded guilty to stalking Berry and was sentenced to 386 days in jail, but was given credit for 193 days already served and then released Saturday after amassing 193 days’ worth of credits for work and good behavior.

He remains on five years’ probation and there’s a 10-year restraining order in place requiring him to stay away from Berry and her family.

“This person has invaded and trampled upon the most fundamental sense of security I have and I am extremely frightened of him and what he might do to me and those I love,” Berry stated in her criminal complaint against Franco.

Meanwhile, Berry’s camp has been informed that Robert Hoskins, a man who allegedly threatened to slit Berry’s throat—and who also allegedly threatened to slit Madonna’s throat and was shot by the Material Girl’s bodyguard in 1995—escaped from a mental institution last week.

[From E! Online]

Halle has been looking for a more secure mansion in Malibu, according to TMZ. Of course Radar has Gabriel Aubry’s deep thoughts on his custody battle, as per usual. They’re trying to call out Halle on her claims that she’s so scared and are saying that she’s using it as a convenient excuse. This rings true to me, but again I’m thinking that both sides are pushing back too hard and making it much worse than it needs to be.

Berry has formally petitioned to move to France with Nahla and her fiancé, Olivier Martinez, but she is going to have to go to battle with Aubry who has vowed to fight the move. Under current terms of their custody agreement, neither parent can move out of Los Angeles County without the other’s permission.

Aubry is absolutely stunned that Halle is attempting to whisk his daughter to a foreign country. “Gabriel feels that Halle is just being vengeful and vindictive by attempting to move Nahla to France,” an insider close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com.

“First of all, if Halle is concerned for her safety, why is she routinely seen around town without a bodyguard? Yes, she has had several stalkers over the years, but she has a top of the line security system at her house, and she can certainly afford to move to a safer location in Los Angeles in a gated community. Why would Halle want to take the father of her daughter out of her life and move to a foreign country? It just defies logic.”

[From Radar]

We haven’t heard any confirmation that Halle and Oliver are actually engaged, but this story suggests that’s the case. The “source” goes on to say:

“Halle will be getting married for the third time. Gabriel’s lawyers are going to argue that there is nothing to guarantee this marriage will last. What then? Nahla could be uprooted again, she isn’t luggage for heavens sake,” the source tells RadarOnline.com. “She needs her father in her life. Nahla and Gabriel are very, very close. He has always played a major role in Nahla’s life and the fact the Halle is attempting to sever that relationship disgusts him. He feels that Halle is disgruntled because she was unsuccessful in having restraining orders granted against him, and lost her attempts to have his custody of Nahla stripped. The timing of this is very, very suspect. Nahla would be very isolated in France, primarily because the lack of family and friends, and the language barrier.”

[From Radar Online]

I agree that Nahla should stay in LA where she speaks the language and goes to school. It does seem punitive of Halle to want to move overseas at this time, but the argument that she has two homicidal stalkers on the loose is a pretty powerful one.

I would be more on Gabriel’s side if he would just stop talking to the press. He probably doesn’t have any other recourse to all the stories Halle is putting out there, though. Poor Nahla, really.

Here’s Halle out alone and looking annoyed yesterday on 2-9-12. She’s also shown with Nahla and the Nanny on 2-2-12 and with Oliver on 1-29-12. Credit: Osvaldo/FameFlynet Pictures. Gabriel Aubry is shown with Nahla on 2-3-12. Credit: WENN.com

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  1. Petunia says:

    If she moves to France, Gabriel should too and live in a nearby town so he can see his kid. I’m calling BS on Halle’s claims of fear because this move seems to have blown up at exactly the same time as the nanny’s claims.

    And I’m with CB: team Nahla. Put both parents into joint counseling and don’t let them out until they can talk civilly to one another in person, with and without a counselor present.

    • Celebitchy says:

      I just remembered that Gabriel is French Canadian, so it would be an option for him to move to France. But still he shouldn’t have to just because Halle wants to.

      • Petunia says:

        I totally agree with you, CB, but that would keep Halle from isolating him from Nahla. Because that is her ultimate goal.

      • autumndaze says:

        I say it’s time for Gabriel to be granted primary custody and keep Nahla in California around family and friends.
        Let’s see if Halle still moves to France for her “safety”.

      • Violet says:

        The term “French-Canadian” doesn’t generally mean the person is French and Canadian. Instead, it means the person is a Canadian whose mother tongue is French (roughly a fourth of the Canadian population falls in this category, most of them from the province of Quebec).

        I’m sure that Halle has the money to hire enough security to stay put; she’s just using this as an excuse to take Nahla out of the country. She’s such a hateful, vindictive woman. My heart goes out to Nahla and Gabriel.

      • Capella says:

        Very well said CB!

        @Violet, he is a true French Canadian, meaning he speaks French first. If he was a Québecois (native of the Province of Québec), we would be then discussing if his first language is French or English.

        A lot of other stars, with less star power have crazy stalkers too… Just read some of the things said on this site on a certain celebrity couple, and how much they are “loved” and “protected” by their “fans”. It is scary the extent to which some fans go to, to prove their love and faith in a celebrity.

        And BTW, California laws will protect Halle much better than French laws. Remember Diana?

      • Violet says:

        @Celebitchy

        I looked it up and Gabriel Aubry is from Montreal, which is a city in the Canadian province of Quebec. Canadians, French-speaking or otherwise, cannot live or work in France without being granted a visa from the French government.

        @Capella, you either didn’t read my comment carefully or you accidentally responded to someone else. (BTW, Gabriel can be described as Francophone, French-Canadian AND Québecois. LOL, it must be pretty obvious by now that I happen to be Canadian since I know all these distinctions.)

      • Capella says:

        @Violet, you are forgetting Les Acadiens!

        They are French Canadians too!

        But I do get your point. We’re just splitting hairs here, talking about the same definition.

      • CanadianVixen says:

        Sorry CB, Victoria is right, I am an anglophone Quebecoise because my Quebecois father met my anglophone Canadian mother while posted in Eastern Canada. We only spoke English at home, I was in English-speaking schools. I came to France on a student visa (ironically to learn French) and only got residence status (the right to live and work here) when I married a French man and even then I had to go through lots of hoops – I was actually pregnant so the authorities couldn’t say it was a ‘marriage blanc’ – a marriage of convenience to get papers. The authorities here have actually been known to do home visits to check that’there are two toothbrushes’ in the bathroom. So no special status for Canadians, it’s probably easier to get a Green Card.

      • CanadianVixen says:

        I am replying again because this is a subject close to my heart. In 2004, unfortanately at the time I was divorcing, the French passed what I will call a 50-50 law in terms of child custody. Which essentially means both parents get equal time unless there are really extenuating circumstances and I’m talking ex-con or paedophilia. This is a very macho, pro-‘father’ state, she will not get any sympathy here.

      • Violet says:

        @Capella

        I’m not forgetting anyone. If you read my original comment, I said that *most* French-Canadians come from the province of Quebec.

        In fact, that’s the home province of about 80% of all French-Canadians. New Brunswick is the province with the second-highest population of Francophones, followed by Manitoba and Ontario. Smaller French-Canadian communities can be found in Alberta, Nova Scotia and Saskatchewan. Hardly anyone in my home province of British Columbia is French-Canadian.

        Canada as a whole is officially bilingual. In terms of the provinces, only New Brunswick follows suit; all other provinces are officially unilingual (Quebec is French, all other provinces and territories are English). That said, Canadians generally learn the other official language in school — Anglophones take French classes and Francophones take English classes — and being fluent in both French and English is a prerequisite for many government jobs.

        More than 40% of Canadians are first- or second-generation immigrants, so many of us are multilingual and hold more than one passport. For example, I was born German (due to jus sanguinis AKA right of blood) as well as American (because I was born on US soil) but lost German citizenship when I applied for Canadian citizenship (Germany only allows dual citizenship if the other citizenship is acquired by birth and not naturalization). I currently have dual US/Canadian citizenship. I speak English and German fluently, and French at the Grade 12 level.

        However, there’s no indication that Gabriel has a European passport, so he would not be allowed to work or live in France without being granted a visa.

        Whew, I bet that’s a whole lot more than you ever wanted to know about Canada 😉

      • Capella says:

        Last I heard, Quebekers don’t need a passport to travel to France. Unless this had changed?

      • Violet says:

        @Capella

        You were misinformed, because that’s never been true. Someone who only has Canadian citizenship — regardless of what part of the country they’re from — needs a passport to travel to France.

    • frenchconnection says:

      she is paying the stalker to stalk her.

  2. Bite me says:

    Can the judge for this custody case issue a gag order on these two fools

  3. Asli says:

    The stalker will most likely follow her to France and where ever else she plans to go. If the target of their obsession moves so do they.

    • Petunia says:

      No kidding.

      • Kimlee says:

        That what I was thinking does she think her stalker won’t get on a plain, Isen’t that what stalkers do fallow you were ever you go.

    • Capella says:

      I was thinking the same thing too. And from what I know, CA laws are getting much stricter on paps than international ones.

      • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

        California has some the STRICTEST stalking laws in the U.S., due to the large number of celebrities who live here. Halle’s argument about safety just doesn’t hold water. For a celebrity being stalked, CA is one of the safest places there are. Especially southern CA there are strict laws to restrict the paparazzi, and their behavior as well.

        I buy that she’s afraid, who wouldn’t be? There are plenty of laws in place for their safety, and Halle undoubtedly has the means to have super tight security, or even move to another house with 20ft high walls if she wants to.

        I don’t see the French government bending over backward for any celebrity. We all know how much special treatment celebs get in HW. If anyone even looks at HB sideways, they’re going straight to jail.

        IDK this seems like a desperate move on Halle’s part. I question the validity of a true NEED to leave the country. Especially if we’re talking France, because that’s where Olivier lives, and that fact is what I just can’t see past.

        Team Get Some Therapy and Learn To Co-Parent.

  4. Nanea says:

    What next? Team Halle trying to convince people that there’s no chance of her ever being stalked in Europe?

    The poor kid! This is so sad, also that Gabriel’s team can’t (get him to) shut up.

  5. Jackson says:

    Yeah, just too convenient that she must flee the country now. Give me a break. She could surround herself with body guards if she thought she needed to. Top of the line home security as well. I just don’t buy that she is so fearful she must leave the country. And yeah, good point, why is she out and about without armed security if that’s the case now? Besides, can’t some crazy just hop on a plane to another country just like she can do and stalk her there? Stop playing games with your child already!!!

    • The Original Mia says:

      Exactly! If she’s that scared as to move to another country, why isn’t she surrounding herself and her child with bodyguards? She’s got the means and the resources to make sure they are protected as well as the First Family. And another thing…why is she looking at beach property, instead of a gated community with roving guards? Because it’s BS!

    • Relli says:

      TOTALLY MY THOUGHTS TOO!!!

  6. Lis says:

    (1) Overall, I’m trying to stay out of this. Berry is crazy, but we don’t know what’s been going on, and the real victim is the daughter.

    (2) On this specific occasion, however, I think I’m on Aubry’s side.

    If it’s true that she doesn’t have a bodyguard, then I call BS on the “stalker” claim.

    This looks, to me, like a vindictive ploy. And I have no idea why, if Berry was so eager to parent alone, she didn’t just go to a sperm bank.

  7. Justaposter says:

    Oh Halle, the FBI do not like to play with ‘the girl who cried wolf’ types.

    That can get you into trouble!

  8. Julie says:

    Believe she just wants to be hateful or she would definately have body guards. Love her shirt BTW.

  9. Dawn says:

    Sorry you can’t have it both ways. If she gets to talk to the press through E! (which is always pushing an agenda for someone) so does he. The bottom line, figure it out like adults and not spoiled rotten children. And we all know the relationship will fail with her new guy just like all the rest. Nahla needs her dad in her life not passing mommy candy boys.

  10. StaceyP says:

    Stalkers can find you in any country. The only answer is more security or a gated community.

  11. mia girl says:

    I think she is fixated with creating a perfect new family dynamic with Martinez as the “dad”. Aubry is in the way of her new reality. In her mind, she needs to get him out of the picture at whatever costs.

    • Kara Ann says:

      Yes, this. I don’t think that Halle wants to inhabit a world where her child’s father is a decent guy that things just didn’t work out with. Sad that she would much rather him be a racist, asshole thus preserving her image of herself as a martyr that just kind find her true love…which, of course, she has again already. But if Martinez thinks that Halle isn’t gonna whip out that same old broken record about abuse, cheating, or whatever else she can when he can’t stand the crazy anymore then he is deluding himself.

      Poor Nahla. Just really feel for this kid.

    • Capella says:

      Very well said. Sad though that Nahla’s mother is so disconnected from reality. I think she needs another “vacation” in the psych ward. It’s getting a tad out of hand, this crying wolf all the time. She has beyond lost face in the past year. IMPOV.

  12. Maria says:

    why can’t she move to Canada?… I live in British Columbia, on the west coast, it’s gorgeous here and Nahla’s Father could easily come here frequently and quickly, or live here if he wanted to, being Canadian also. She should be ashamed of herslef for following HER needs and not her daughters. She should be thrilled that the Father of her child wants to be with her as much as possible…geez…she is only hurting her daughter by behaving this way. so, so selfish..she isn’t thinking of what is best for her little girl.

    • bluhare says:

      Great idea. Perfect, really. She gets French for Olivier and Aubry’s Canadian. Which is probably why she won’t do it, because Aubry’s Canadian!!

      I did think it a bit over the top for Aubry to be talking language barrier in France. Isn’t he a French Canadian and probably bilingual or at least fluent?? I would think he’s teaching her French?

      • Maria says:

        you Americans are too cute…none of us speak French here EXCEPT those that live in Quebec… so no, while not the perfect idea, it is a hop skip to L.A. from here and with him being Canadian already, he could easily live here IF she did too.

      • lrm says:

        @Maria: Actually, my grandmother’s first language was french, and she grew up in new brunswick-all of my family and most people we knew there, spoke french first. Anyway, Aubrey is from what, montreal? which is in quebec province, so it’s reasonable to assume he’s at least bilingual. That said, vancouver or B.C. don’t provide options in that regard. But, anyway, just one of those ‘cute Americans’ you mentioned, chiming in(:

      • Wendy says:

        Maria… Shame on you for not knowing about the Acadians. There is also a french enclave near Edmonton and I suppose they aren’t the sole one outside of Quebec.

      • OriginalTiffany says:

        He is from Montreal, therefore Quebecois and most probably speaks French fluently. I have lived in Montreal, Quebec City(love), and Toronto.
        Only the Quebecois in Toronto speak French, not the natives. I think French outside the province isn’t really taught in schools. My children are in the Quebec school system and are taught French daily. Half day in French when we first moved and they were at public school. It was very hard for them in 4th and 6th grade to be taught half day in French during history and Science. No way could they follow that fast at that level. We basically lost a half year of learning. It would be tough on Nahla at first to switch to all French speaking, even with a tutor. We have a Russian boy in school now, first grade and he has to try and communicate through French and the poor thing came in knowing no French or English.
        They could live in Toronto, they film there every day. Literally. They do tons of films there. Closer to Montreal for him, and both could work there or travel. So close to NYC as well.
        The fact is, she doesn’t want him in their child’s life. For some perverse reason she is bent on cursing her own daughter with a re-creation of her own painful childhood.
        Sad for Nahla. And Gabe.

    • Capella says:

      Hmm, Maria, the flight to Paris would be a much shorter one than from Montreal to Vancouver… And at times cheaper!

      But I do get your point. Too many deadbeats around, including Halle’s father. The justice system should side more frequently with fathers who WANT to be in their children’s lives. Proven of course that they are safe. 🙂

      • OriginalTiffany says:

        @Capella, ITA. Montreal would be perfect. The laws are very good there. They shoot more movies in Toronto, they have full huge studios there, but Montreal is a great option.
        It’s just cold:) Gorgeous summers, though.

      • Capella says:

        As someone though said a bit further up, it wouldn’t be in Halle’s benefit to move to Montreal, for it has some of the strictest laws on shared custody.

        It’s 50/50 over there, unless you prove one of the parents is a pedophile. Even if one was an alcoholic, they would lose temporarily shared custody, and get it back after accordingly rehabbing.

        Obviously, Halle wants simply to forget that Gabriel is her kid’s biological father.

    • Madison says:

      If it really was only about the stalking there are plenty of places like Canada and New York she could move to. I get that Halle is worried about stalkers I would be too, but moving to France won’t stop a crazy stalker.

      • Capella says:

        Moving to Montreal would! There are very strict laws on stalking, and preservation of privacy. Especially if living in Westmount.

        Olivier could move to Montreal too. An important amount of movies are being filmed in Montreal. Wasn’t that how he met Angelina, and fell for her?

  13. TG says:

    Halle is full of BS. This is just a convenient excuse to continue to alienate her daugher from the father. Hope the judge sees thru her BS.

  14. Cathy says:

    Does this woman only have one pair of jeans? She seems to be wearing the same faded rolled up jeans in every picture with different shirts on each time. Either that or she likes to change her shirt alot.

  15. Tiffany27 says:

    I wish Nahla could stay with Grandma or someone until her idiot parents learn to put HER first and not themselves.

  16. Julie says:

    you should always take stalkers serious. i dont want to be a big celeb being haunted with that, think about jodie foster and that super lunatic. but the worst is that changing the country doesnt help. maybe when you can be anonymous, like regular people but not if you are halle berry.

    im sure its because she needs a good reason to win the battle for the child.

    i guess we are all camp nahla but for the parents im more on gabriels site just because halle comes across as a huge b****. acutally im not on his side its not like he is a saint, its just that i hate her more.

  17. Jezi says:

    This woman pisses me off. Anything to keep distance between the father and his child. She’s sickening already. It’s apparent that Nahla loves her father. Can’t she just let him be a father.

  18. Lola6 says:

    Stalkers cant get on planes? Oh, scary berry, you need to find another tactic.

  19. Sigh. says:

    Not to downplay the potential danger involved, but most, if not ALL celebs get threats and/or have stalkers. Madonna didn’t leave for good because of her stalker. CZJ didn’t leave. Thurman is still here. Letterman had a KIDNAPPING ATTEMPT OF HIS CHILD thwarted, and he’s still here. The law enforcement agencies dedicated to this type of thing usually advise to NOT to hand over your “power” by changing your life and/or lifestyle drastically (beyond BEEFING UP YOUR SECURITY if you’re so “scared,” not photo-op yourself, free ‘n’ easy ‘n’ UNESCORTED. Martinez’s little ass looks like more of a lover, NOT a fighter).

    She’s using this as an excuse, and that’s sad (for Nahla), manipulative, and disrespectful to those who are actually trapped in stalker situation without the option of just packing up and leaving.

  20. oxa says:

    The chick has the money and the first time she felt threatened she could have moved to a gated community and hired an Israeli security team.
    She has a home in Malibu where she regularly invites the paps to come get candid photos of her on the beach in a bikin or Ollie getting a liplock on Nahla’s mouth.
    This is all about her selfish desire to get G.A. out of Nahla’s life so she can control all aspects of the kids life.

    As for moving to France, how safe was it for Princess Diana.

    • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

      I find the constant photos of Olivier, carrying, or kissing Nahla absolutely repugnant. That man gives me the creeps, what man is so eager to take over the role of father to another mans child?

      I know it seems sweet to some, but I find it creepy, especially in light of the fact that he knows full well HB and GA are going through a custody battle.

      OM should back off, screwing Halle doesn’t make Nahla his child. Sorry to use the offensive wording, but that’s how I see it.

      Olivier is a well known womanizer, and serial cheater, he’s not a good person. I cannot understand what his motivation is in trying and usurp another mans relationship with his own child.

  21. chloe says:

    Does anyone else think the cast is a fake and she’s trying to use it for sympathy? I swear a few months ago there was pics of her with no cast on and then Gabriel and her started this custody battle and then boom cast back on and as someone mentioned yesterday how does she get those tight jeans over that thing.
    These people need to grow up and learn how to raise Nahla in a loving environment.

    • The Original Mia says:

      She has diabetes. She’s probably having issues with the bone healing properly. Or she could be using it for sympathy. With her…I can never tell what’s truth and what’s lie.

    • TG says:

      The cast will probably make an appearance in her court filing. She can’t run from her stalker if she is in a cast. Just watch next week that will be another reason to get full custody and flea the country.

      • Kasey says:

        I don’t know how medical care works for the rich and famous but I actually wondered whether is was better or worse for her to move right now in light of this just-won’t-heal-bum-leg of hers (and if the stalker is the issue, whether or not Nahla is safer with her dad until it heals).

        BETTER:1- dude probably already knows where she lives, 2-does that crazy escaped man REALLY have enough resources to follow her to France? 3-IF he made it into her shelter she would have more difficulty fending for herself with a cast what would it be like to also have a child in her care?

        WORSE:1-he can still follow her to France and I assume there would be less knowledge about and policing of him there, 2-is it THAT easy for her to get continued medical care? is she not going to have to be shuttling back over to the US to see her doctors? 3-same as above, 4- IF something were to happen to her/with him in France it’d make it a lot more difficult for GA to snatch up his child and take her to safety.

  22. Wendy says:

    She can afford the kind of 24 hour security, house in a gated community and bodyguards that would keep them safe. Moving to France might make it a bit more difficult for a stalker, but ultimately she wouldn’t be any safer and possibly even less so. Especially since gated communities are almost non-existant in France and those that do exist are usually beach areas where someone can get around the gate by coming in from the ocean.

  23. taxi says:

    She is so crazy & way too full of herself. She had her meds messed up, I guess, when she drove through pedestrians into some storefront. She overdoes the Woman of Color stuff, imho, as she was reared by her white mother.

    Is Olivier still big in France? He used to be. Remember him as Diane Lane’s lover? He was hot but I’d have still picked Gere.

  24. foozy says:

    i’m on gabriel’s side. poor guy, he obviously loves his daughter and has no choice but to face courts and have a slight hope that the judge might actually have a heart and rule in his favor.
    after all he is GABRIEL AUBRY. for god’s sake, it’s not as if he needs her money for fame. he’s already rich! everybody loves gabriel aubry!and he’ll continue getting richer with his modeling.
    for the love of god judge so and so, please give this father a break already. it’s not as if there are are not lots of them out there who give remotely a damn about their own! but behold! here’s one that can show the world that: men should care more their children, and that this court will be a just court. i say let aubry become AN INSPIRATION TO US ALL. the GREATEST AND MOST AWSOME PUBLICITY FOR FATHERHOOD.
    GO GABRIEL!!!! U RULE!!!!
    by the way, dear readers, i’m a woman.

  25. Tweakspotter says:

    Yes Halle because the judge will say “OH well then by all means lets seperate the child and father so YOU feel more secure”. Pbbbffff if only it were that easy in CA.

  26. Jane says:

    This is just too much of a coincidence. It is so transparent she just wants her way and get even with her ex. She basically loses in court by not getting sole custody, so now, all of a sudden, she wants to move to Europe to get away from a stalker. Right.

    She is just one of many celebrities who has the that problem, they aren’t all moving to other countries because of it. She has the money for security, spend it on that instead of lawyers trying to get revenge on her ex.

    Better yet, tell Oliver to move to America and keep her from the boogy man.

  27. dahlia1947 says:

    It seems to make sense for Berry to move to get away from some murderous maniacs 🙂 but I can’t help but think how she seems to just want so badly to take Nahla away from her dad.

    I know that’s bad to say, but she usually comes across as a spiteful B&&ch when these stories come out. Like she’s just looking for ANY little excuse to take Nahla away from him!

  28. Lori says:

    If there really is a man out there that wants to hurt/kill Halle… Doesn’t it seem like a good idea to keep Nahla away from Halle? If she really is in such life threatening danger, Gabriel should have custody of their daughter at the moment.

  29. sm255 says:

    These two are making me respect my mother and father more – when it comes to handling child custody.

    Seriously, I am interested in how this train wreck is going to come out in the end.

  30. NM6804 says:

    Pretty powerful reason?
    So there are no stalkers/crazy celeb obsessed people in Europe? Her safety that can easily be protected by buying a property in L.A. that has a gate and top notch security, camera’s and the whole shabamalam is more important than a child seeing her bio father who is fighting for her ever since Halle Crazy decided to shut him out of the parenting role?! And do pray tell Berry, for all the concerns about your “safety” you seem awfully comfortable prancing around with Nahla’s replacement dad and your temporary f*mate pretending like you have a perfect family (how many times do we have to see cheating doucheb* Martinez kissing, hugging and playing with Nahlah?!) and all that without seemingly any bodyguard.

    I was on neither side during the “nanny issue” but now it seems like Berry just found another thing to bully Aubry. I guess the court didn’t kiss her ass enough and she has to look for other ways to shut her babymaker out of her and her daughter’s life. I pity her counsellor! I’m also guessing that the vague engagement was a plan all along (as a married couple the move would be more convincing and accepting for the court I guess) and if she doesn’t get her way, they’ll get married and then ask for the move to France again. If I was the judge, I would definitely question this behaviour, I mean, would she REALLY think of moving to a country of which she doesn’t speak the language at all (which doesn’t benefit her career or personal life) if she hadn’t had a French BF? What is her connection with France outside a MAN?! What kind of responsible mother does that? I’m not religious but I pray for this child because her mom’s behaviour is messed up!!! Most parents have to be in the same city and have pre-set distance they can’t break and this woman is trying to move to another COUNTRY?! Absolutely unbelievable. This is why I don’t like certain gossip, I can’t watch a film or listen to a song when I know too much about the person in question.
    Seriously…

    Sidenote: There are good privacy laws to protect children (blurring face etcetera) BUT she hardly can bring that argument over as a reason since she (and Aubry too of course) having been doing photo-op after photo-op lately. This isn’t about her child, this is about Berry being a little kid and demanding she gets her way. Imagine the sh*storm Aubry would cause if he wanted to move to Canada?! Crazy beautiful people and shame on Martinez for going along with it!

  31. Bite me says:

    Oh oh according to tmz Gabriel is in court right now in a Dependency Court… Custody is in jeopardy

    • NM6804 says:

      Custody in danger for who? Berry? I should google that 🙂

    • Capella says:

      Actually, he is there to contest having to take anger management classes, based on Child Protective Services’ assessment of him not being any danger to his daughter.

      It’s a common Child Detention hearing. Those are always held in cases like the Gabriel/Halle situation, where counsel is appointed to represent the child by the court (not Halle’s). It could also result in the child being taken away from BOTH parents for her well-being.

      If this happens, what would Halle do. If her actions were the result of losing her child to CPS? Let’s hope they do what is best for the child, without being under star-worship syndrome.

      • Wendy says:

        A perfect example of Berry trying to smear the guy. We know TMZ are her mouthpiece and they’re getting “updates” from inside the courtroom. You can guess where the “custody is in jepardy” came from.

        What a b*tch.

      • Capella says:

        She does get you riled up, doesn’t she? I’m just hoping that the legal system is not star-f*cked and sees through her manipulations.

      • Wendy says:

        I know someone who went through EXACTLY this same kind of shit. Until 13 or 14 years later he finally threw in the towel. And this was with the child wanting to live with Dad and telling social services that since he was 8 or so.

      • Capella says:

        These situations are no fun for anybody @Wendy.

        Although there are cases where obviously one or the other parent should never have contact with their child, there are also times where the mother cannot forgive her troubles with the father, and tries to punish him via cutting him access to his kids.

        In cases like these, the judicial system is still lacking, and favors the mother for full custody. Sad.

  32. skuddles says:

    Bullsh*t – all Berry cares about is removing Aubry from his daughter’s life and bitch will stop at nothing NOTHING to achieve her goal.

  33. the original bellaluna says:

    Since when is moving to France cheaper than hiring/beefing-up security?

  34. Wendy says:

    In other news, her stalker has been caught. Now what is she going to claim?

    • Capella says:

      The woman is concentrating her “creative juices” on finding new reasons to keep her daughter away from her father, instead of working on finding work. I’m thinking we’ll be reading a new excuse tomorrow.

      IF Gabriel gets the system siding with him, with better shared custody rules, I hope he gets his picture taken with his daughter kissing his new gf.

      See how Halle will hit the roof!

    • Capella says:

      He just lost unfortunately his bid to have over-night visitations, and visitations without supervision. Still can see his daughter, but a third party must be present at all times, same though for Halle. Hopefully the supervision would be a court appointed one, not Halle’s lackey.

      • Wendy says:

        I hope it’s a court appointed one too. In the meantime, he should have hidden CCTV cameras put up throughout the house wherever he, Nahla and the supervisor are likely to be.

  35. ZooBug says:

    Halle Berry is trying to take her daughter Nahla away from her father Gabriel Aubry to live in France with Olivier Martinez. A father deserves parental rights. I stand with Gabriel and if you do as well please take these gifs and circulate them over the internet. Team Gabriel!

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/peashoe/Aubry/GabeNahla1-300.gif

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/peashoe/Aubry/GabeNahla2-300.gif

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/peashoe/Aubry/GabeNahla3-300.gif

  36. TheOriginalVictoria says:

    Classic tactic. Halle knows what she’s doing and if Gabriel was smart, he would keep his trap shut and let Halle look like the villain. Don’t play her game. But apparently that isn’t going to happen.

    Halle and Gabe will get it together. I have faith that they both love their little girl and will see how this situation is unnecessary.

    The stalker situation is serious, but not worth moving to France.

    Still love that crazy bitch. I understand her.

  37. Jacqueline says:

    She is moving to get away from Gabriel. She has made it very clear she doesn’t want him in Nahla’s life. Team Gabriel all the way!

    (She should’ve just got a sperm donor.)

  38. Ailine says:

    I don’t like how everyone is Team Gabriel for no good reason other than Halle has had bad relationships and is crazy. We don’t really know her. And since the court ruled in her favor, I’m thinking there is a lot of stuff that we don’t know about that may call his parenting into question.

    • Meanchick says:

      I’m with you. I like juicy gossip and whispers as much as the next person, but there is so much to this story that we just don’t know about. Mothers will walk through Hades to protect their children. Nevermind about her past relationships, this isn’t about that. The judge saw something that made him rule in her favor and it’s not as if GA doesn’t know how to get to France. I feel like people may be taking sides based on race more than anything else. I’ve not heard of anything HB has done to put her daughter in danger. If someone is threatening her life, that is serious and she has the right to take her baby anywhere she feels may be safer. If GA wants her to be safe, then he should have no problem with making sure they work together to keep Halle and the daughter safe. Take it down a bit HalleHaters. A death threat is nothing to belittle.

      • TheOriginalVictoria says:

        I agree with you so much.

        And don’t get me wrong, I don’t think they are basing it on race in a racist way, I think some of this hate for Halle (and I honestly don’t want hear anyone talking about her hit and run if they support Roman Polanski or Woody Allen; have a f–king seat because you have no moral compass) is because people think SHE is racist. They honestly are mad because she refers to herself as a black woman and her child as a black child because of shit she did not make up on her own. They would rather believe that Halle lied about her abuse because her “exes said so” but not believe anything Aubry’s exes says because he’s all blonde hair and blue eyed and carries Nahla around (they even go so far as to say that Nahla is not happy around Halle and only with Gabriel)! And I am not saying that last statement to say they are siding with Aubry because he is white, though deep down some might just be, I am saying because he looks like the “perfect” guy. If this man looked like K-Fed or Jerry Seinfeld, there would not bet his much hate.

      • OriginalTiffany says:

        Am I missing something? This is based on race? I don’t see that at all. First off I don’t care about race at all.
        Even if someone wanted to make it racial does that make sense?
        Halle is half white, raised by a white mom, never knew her dad. Gabriel is white, Nahla is 3/4 causcasion, Where is the race angle? Halle’s one drop theory? Weird.

  39. Kasey says:

    When it was just, “I want to be with my new man” I didn’t agree, thought it was selfish but I got it. If it was “as a celebrity, my life there would be easier and safer”, I still think there are other solutions in-country that are better for the child, would suspect this was about stripping Gabe from father privileges but again, I get it. The thing is when it comes down to “some lunatic who has threatened my life has ESCAPED PRISON (or whatever that’s called) and I fear so badly for my safety that I need to move to ANOTHER COUNTRY), 1-I find it difficult to believe that she is not concerned/considering that Nahla being with her is a potential danger for Nahla herself. I imagine, if I was a mum, the first thing that would cross my mind is my child, then what could be done to catch this madman and how best to make sure that he doesn’t come anywhere NEAR my child-which may very well be limited contact with my child for an unspecified period OR keeping things the same for my child by staying put but beefing up my security. All throughout history women have sacrificed being with their children for their children’s safety and well-being so if she REALLY thinks she needs to leave the country then that seems like a very natural and motherly response.

    So far, every SINGLE THING about this has come across as if it’s all about what Halle wants not what’s best for Nahla. Time after time nothing has been proven to make Gabriel an unfit father and if there were worse suspicions I think she’d have brought them up by now. Even when I question why he has supervised visits, it seems like she does too (which is a good move IMO on the court system realizing that they BOTH need monitoring). If I were Halle, unless this man threatened my child/family, I’d think it best for my child to have some semblance of normalcy with school and surroundings and not to be moving to a new country with me and my bum leg for her own potential safety. And if I felt like I needed to flee the country and take my daughter too, then what about my mum? what about my daughter’s father? what about anyone else near and dear to me/my daughter (yeah, I love my daughter enough to keep her safe but I also need to love her enough to want to see the well-being of people she loves who mean her GOOD not evil)? I’m not getting her line of reasoning with this one. I’m not a mum, so is it JUST me who would tend to think like that?

    On another note, I don’t know about Halle being all too right in the head so I think this loon may have met his match. I truly believe mums can be fiercely, scarily protective of their children (again why it baffles me that she wants Nahla WITH her in a situation dangerous enough that she thinks she needs to flee the country from and if he happens to cross her while Nahla is in her care I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she were able to overpower and do him in! This plot is so nutty and thick, but is it bad that in the back of my mind I’ve wondered if either she orchestrated his release or Gabe did? :S

  40. Cirque28 says:

    As much as Halle seems to want Gabriel out of Nahla’s life, I bet she wouldn’t mind too much if he was forced to follow her to France. Because then Gabriel would be her bitch who had uprooted his life according to her whims, and Halle would be ‘winning.’ Which is the vibe I get from BOTH sides here: each wants dominance, control, and to win over the other. But there are no winners in these awful, ugly custody situations. Just survivors.

    Team Nahla.

  41. jwoolman says:

    If they can’t move out of the county without each other’s permission, I doubt that Halle can get a judge to let her move out of the country without the dad’s permission. No wonder she’s been pulling out all the stops trying to paint him as a monster. She wants a judge to remove the dad from the equation entirely. She’s definitely angling to have him stripped of joint custody. She was fine with him being alone with Nahla before and after their breakup, when it was convenient for her to have an extra nanny. Now it’s inconvenient and she wants to toss him to the curb.

    On the other hand – the dad should welcome such things as anger management and parenting courses – he should continue such without any court order, since he’s in a very stressful situation. He really should be seeing a counselor regularly to vent and get constructive ideas on how to properly cope and do what’s best for his daughter.  Parenting is hard enough under normal conditions, but trapped in a fishbowl with a lovely piranha nipping at your heels makes it especially hard. As Nahla grows, it’s not going to get easier. My bet is that Nahla will have problems with her controlling mom, and her dad can be a welcome counterweight if he figures out how to do it without getting into the “alienation of parental affection” territory. 

  42. Kosmos says:

    Right, she has “never” wanted him to be around their daughter after they split. Yes, definitely, she wants to make it difficult for him to get to his daughter. Unless he moved to France, he would only get to see her infrequently. Has Oliver ever been married or engaged? Who knows if this relationship will stand the test of time. I do feel sorry for the father in that it is equally his child, but it has to be so frustrating for him to constantly be at battle in order to keep his custody rights.

  43. aprayerforthewildatheart says:

    The court’s position is to act in the best interest of the child, and allow the child frequent and continuing contact with both parents. If either parent wishes to relocate with the child they must petition the court sighting all reasons as to why a move is necessary, and in the best interest of the child.

    What Halle is petitiononing the court for is highly irregular. She doesn’t hold primary custody, they have a joint custody agreement in place, which courts are loathe to change. It would not normally be seen as positive to uproot a child from not only their home and the other parent, but extended family, friends, school, community ties, etc.

    To move a child to a foreign country where they would have limited access to the other parent, no extended family, or community ties exist, and neither the child nor the petitioning parent even speak the language is not in her best interest. Would it be okay for Gabriel to petition to move with Nahla to Brazil because he had a girlfriend there, and even though he doesn’t know the language? No, and it works both ways.

    Just because they are not together does not mean that they are no longer a family, as long as Nahla exists, they are a family and neither parent can just take her away from the other.

    Neither parent is putting Nahla first, Gabriel should go to counseling, and they should both attend parenting classes, what does it hurt to be cooperative? This is no time for Halle to be running off to France.

    • Capella says:

      I love your post. However, you are forgetting that neither are acting as though they are still family to Nahla. And Gabriel just had his overnight visitations taken away.

      As for Halle, she seems to be of one mind: Be only a family with Olivier. Leave Gabriel behind.

      The court’s decision on Friday, in favor of Halle, could very much make this more possible.

      • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

        I completely agree with you that neither parent is acting as a family to Nahla, but they are family.

        That’s why I brought up the counseling which was recommended for all three, and the co-parenting classes that IMO they should be doing instead of Halle trying to move to France in the middle of an ongoing investigation.

        If it were me I would do everything the court, or DCFS recommended I do. This isn’t about being right, or winning, this is about Nahla, and which one (or both) of them is willing to truly fight for her by letting go of their anger, and pride.

        The monitor was a DCFS recommendation that the judge decided to put into place until the investigation is over. It had nothing to do with Halle per se, she’s trying to move to France remember? 😉