Morrissey believes Duchess Kate was hospitalized ‘for absolutely no reason’

Is it weird that I’ve never really felt that strongly about any of the players in the current psychodrama of “the prank call” and the nurse’s suicide? I think it’s horrible that the nurse committed suicide, of course, but I can’t even imagine that making a dumb decision at work would lead to someone’s suicide. As I said before, I think the DJs were in the wrong, but I also don’t believe they had murderous malice in their hearts – they were simply doing a “bit” for their radio show, and it was a dumb bit and they should feel bad about it. But I don’t believe they have this woman’s blood on their hands, you know? And the overreaction to the DJs by the media, by the royal family, by the professional scolds, and by the hospital didn’t help matters at all.

Anyway, noted curmudgeon, racist, anti-monarchist and a—hole Morrissey has some thoughts about the psychodrama and who should be blamed. Hint: he thinks it’s ALL on the royals.

British singer Morrissey is blaming Kate Middleton and the royal family for the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha, who was tricked into helping reveal details about the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge by Australian DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian. The radio personalities did so by impersonating Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles during a prank call.

(Saldanha, 46, was found dead Dec. 7 near London’s King Edward VII Hospital where Middleton, 30, had been treated for acute morning sickness. The nurse left a suicide note for her husband, Ben Barboza, and their two children, Junal, 17, and Lisha, 14.)

“It wasn’t because of two DJs in Australia that this woman took her own life — it was the pressure around her,” Morrissey, 53, told New Zealand’s 3News. The musician believes Middleton was in the hospital “for absolutely no reason” and said “she feels no shame about the death of this woman. She’s saying nothing about the death of this poor woman. The arrogance of the British royals is absolutely staggering.”

The royal couple have, however, issued a statement regarding the nurse’s passing. “Their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well at all times by everybody at King Edward VII Hospital, and their thoughts and prayers are with Jacintha Saldanha’s family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time.”

In the new issue of Us Weekly (on stands Friday), a source reveals that Middleton was devastated by Saldanha’s suicide. “Kate’s heart went out to her family. Her first question was, ‘Does she have children?’”

Morrissey also questioned Middleton’s hyperemesis gravidarum diagnosis. “Does she have a health condition?” the singer asked. “Is it anorexia or is it pregnancy? I mean, morning sickness already? So much hoo haw and then suddenly as bright as a button as soon as this poor woman dies she’s out of hospital? It doesn’t ring true.”

(According to The National Organization for Rare Diseases, the percentage of pregnant women who suffer from hyperemesis gravidarum is estimated to be between .03 percent and 1 percent. The illness is characterized by severe nausea, vomiting, weight loss, dehydration, lightheadedness and fainting. It often requires hospitalization.)

Morrissey estimated that Buckingham Palace receives “thousands” of prank calls per day. Blaming DJs Greig and Christian, the former Smiths vocalist argued, “is just a way of distracting people.”

“The fact [the DJs] got so far probably astonished them beyond belief. But the pressure put on the woman who connected the callers was probably so enormous that she took her own life,” Morrissey reasoned. “And we forget about that and of course the royals are exonerated as always.”

The Sydney-based DJs have publicly apologized for their prank call, calling themselves “”shattered, gutted, heartbroken” over Saldanha’s suicide. The nurse’s family, meanwhile, has launched an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding her death.

[From Us Weekly]

Of course, Morrissey is a mangy conspiracy theorist and a racist and he has a long history of saying asinine things. But does that make him wrong in this one particular instance? While I think his overall theory is flawed (this is all just some huge conspiracy to make Kate look good, I guess), he makes a couple of decent points. Like, the royals were “exonerated” immediately. Of course, it would have been better if he pointed out that the media exonerated itself pretty quickly too, changing tactics midstream after the nurse’s suicide. Eh. Whatever.

Here are some photos of “the other duchess!” Pippa Middleton promoting her terrible book in the Netherlands yesterday. How f—king hideous is this satin dress? What is wrong with Pippa?! She has a cute figure, but she has such god-awful taste in clothes.

Photos courtesy of WENN.com.

 

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  1. Agnes says:

    unless he’s experienced hours and hours of vomiting and/or dry-heaving that go on for months and months, he should really stfu.

  2. Christina says:

    Morrissey is a sad old man (he’s always been a sad old man, even when he was 25!) who hasn’t even got a record deal and hasn’t written a decent song in two decades. If it wasn’t for regular rants like this, he’d have been forgotten long ago. I’m no fan of Kate, and while she may be lazy and a bit dull, she doesn’t seem like an inhuman bitch to me: I’d guess she was probably very upset at this woman’s suicide. Oh, and since when has Mozza been a gynecologist?

    As for Pippa, I love the colour of her dress, but in that satiny fabric, she just looks like a Christmas present. And sweetheart, if nobody in the UK or US bought your crappy ‘book’, don’t expect the hard-nosed Dutch to shell out for it either!

    • Hmmm says:

      I think Waity probably is an unempathetic witch and master manipulator. The one thing she is not, is a victim.

      Wills comes across as an imperious bully. He’s known for it. No way that the poor nurse was not read the riot act behind the scenes.

      The palace is simply doing what it does best- covering their ass.

      • VanillaDeeLite says:

        Uhm he is totally correct.

        And whoever wrote this pice needs to stop calling him a racist. You might not like the man’s music or that he’s opinionted but to call him such a horrible term is not cool.

        He’s an icon, he gets asked questions, he answers honestly.

        F the Royals.

      • Mich says:

        I think you are right about Waity. I remember seeing a gif of her all smiley and sweet as sugar to some woman and then the camera caught her rolling her eyes the second she turned away. It was during their trip to CA after the wedding so the person she was talking to was probably fawning like a fan girl. From that moment on, it was clear to me that this woman can be a right, superior bitch. I have no trouble believing the stories about her and her sister bullying Andrew’s girls.

      • Themuseisnotenchanted says:

        Agree with Hmmm

      • honey boo boo chile says:

        And i don’t feel sorry for that nurse…I’m sorry i don’t, i feel bad for her family, yes but the nurse’s reaction to this, suicide???because of a dumb prank call, and i’m sure some twink will start equating it with the bullying and teen suicides. i am by the way a very empathetic person, i can’t even watch a person cry without welling up but i can’t with this.

    • Themuseisnotenchanted says:

      Well, just because you don’t like the MOZ does not mean that he does not have a lucrative career. He has legions of very loyal fans and he fills all his concert venues.

      And if he is anti-monarchy, so what? Why should the British citizens keep paying for these parasites.

  3. MollyB says:

    Of course the royals were “exonerated” immediately. What in heaven’s name did they do wrong? A pregnant woman got terribly ill and needed medical attention. Some idiot DJs decided to do a prank call and that’s their fault? Should Kate have stayed home and risked her life and her pregnancy on the off chance some morons would make a prank call that would shame a nurse into suicide?

    • Christina says:

      Well, some people have speculated that the royals might have put pressure on the hospital to sack the nurse. There’s no evidence for this, of course, but it wouldn’t altogether surprise me, especially given Willie’s notorious temper and hatred of press intrusion.

      • Jess says:

        Even if that were true, suicide is such and extreme measure that no one anticipates when dealing professionally with a workplace error.

      • Zimmerman says:

        Unfortunately, I agree. Also, given the notoriously dry British humor ( which I often enjoy myself), I wouldn’t be surprised if she was at the rear end of numerous jokes. This was my first thought.
        Also, seeing that the woman was an immigrant (not judging her, I’m one too), she may not have recognized the nuances in the accent. I wouldn’t have either. I really felt for her. She was probably so terrified of doing the wrong thing. Kind, people-pleasers usually are.

      • P.J. says:

        If anybody is at fault it’s the hospital, because they didn’t train their staff in how to deal with VIP patients. The staff should be instructed not to reveal information to anybody over the phone, even the Queen.

        I don’t know what British privacy laws are, but in American hospitals, HIPPA laws prohibit nurses from divulging any medical information except for patient status (good condition, stable, etc.). A nurse in the US who reveals too much info can be fired.

        By the way, the DJ never actually said she was the Queen (I heard the call on the radio). She imitated the royal accent, but all she said was that she was Kate’s “grandmother.” The fake accent was so bad that maybe it never even occurred to the nurse that it was the queen.

      • L says:

        The nurse who committed suicide isn’t the one who heard the accents and released the information.

        The one who died was the switchboard operator who put the call through (and had run in from the hall when the switchboard person stepped out). Which makes it even more tragic IMO-if anyone was going to get fired it was the other nurse.

  4. kristin says:

    Man, men this year have sure been the experts on women’s health issues.

    Clearly Morrissey is the expert on pregnancy and morning sickness, you know, because of all the pregnancies he’s had.

    *rolls eyes*

  5. ojulia123 says:

    Poor guy. He’s trying so hard to stay relevant.

  6. val says:

    The DJ’s did a harmless prank. Does anyone remember “war of the roses”, that Y100 (at least in Miami), I think z100 in NYC used to play ? Now that was dangerous, where the DJs would call up a person and say they won free roses whilst the significant other was on the line waiting to see who he/she would send the roses to? As hilarious as some of these calls were, you have to admit, that they were most intrusive and ended up breaking up a lot of relationships. Also, who knew to what extent did these spouses take up revenge on the cheating spouse. I think it is over the top to cancel their show and now they must be in hiding. I heard the call and it clearly did not sound like the Queen, I mean come on. The nurse was just overwhelmed…it’s sad though, because she leaves behind a lot of grieving people and unanswered questions.

    • Christina says:

      Harmless? Deliberately duping busy nurses and putting their jobs at risk is ‘harmless’? Invading the privacy of a pregnant woman is ‘harmless’? IF it was all so ‘harmless’, why didn’t the DJ’s get the nurses’ consent before going on air, as is the norm (and, in the UK, the law) in ‘prank’ broadcasts?

      • val says:

        Oh Please, yes their prank was HARMLESS. The nurse felt guilty as and killed herself, she killed HERSELF because she passed the phone to Kate’s nurse who gave out the information. It is not like they gave the sex of the child and so forth…people take these “royals too seriously. I mean they poop and wee just like us, or do they have someone do that for them too? Should the DJs have apologized, of course; their prank was the beginning of it all. But really, to blame them for that woman’s death is foolish.

      • gg says:

        For the woman to go so far as to kill herself, she was very imbalanced before the incident. Nobody kills themselves over something like this. No one could’ve possibly known somebody that unhinged would do a thing like this.

    • lem says:

      I hardly think they’re prank was harmless. Getting personal medical information about ANYBODY and airing it worldwide isn’t harmless.
      And then there is this…
      http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/10/australian-radio-station-2dayfm-kate-middleton-prank-djs-fired-history-of-pranks/

      • Amelia says:

        I think their intentions were harmless. From the few interviews they’ve done, I think they were expecting to be hung up on immediately and then have a laugh about how transparent their accents were. When this didn’t happen, from the sounds of it they got a bit overexcited and took it further and further, waiting for the inevitable crashing down if the phone.
        Yes, they got personal patient details but I think it was by accident more than anything.
        It was a ridiculously childish, immature prank that was foolishly executed but I don’t think blame can be assigned to anyone in this instance.
        There’s clearly more to this than we’re being told (and rightly so, the family deserve their privacy) seeing as the nurse in question didn’t actually release patient details, she simply passed the call on. This may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back, but even if this phone call didn’t take place, for all we know she may have had a row with her husband the next week which could have tipped her over the edge.
        Either way she must have been terrible distressed and I hope she’s at peace now.
        Apparently she left a suicide letter to her family (at least according to the daily fail) so perhaps that may shed some light on this terrible situation.

      • Christina says:

        @amelia

        I agree that the DJ’s really didn’t think the call would be put through, but when it turned out that it was, they still had the choice to broadcast it or not, and they chose to do so. While they can’t have predicted the nurse’s suicide, surely they MUST have known that it would cause her extreme embarassment at the least, and the loss of her job at worst. It’s the law in the UK (and I believe Australia) that you must get the written consent of all parties in a ‘prank’ like this, and the DJ’s never sought, let alone, obtained, that consent. So their behaviour was grossly irresponsible, and quite possibly illegal.

        And it’s not like this was a one-off. This station has been in trouble with regulators on more than one occasion in the past.

      • alexa says:

        I’m sure their intentions were innocent. What is awful is that nobody – neither the DJs nor the radio station which ok’d the airing of the tape, ever thought about what impact this might have on the nurses involved. It is obvious that they should not have passed on the call or given out personal information on a patient. They actually did deserve to be reprimanded by the hospital and I could quite understand if William was angry as well. Didn’t the radio station ever think that such reprimands (or worse job loss) could occur by airing the tape? No – all they thought of was getting as much publicity as possible. Nobody of course expected a suicide, but the job implications for the nurses could certainly have been expected.

        As for Morrissey – I throw up in his general direction.

      • Kate (newer one) says:

        I don’t blame the DJs. They would never have expected to get anything but a sod off from the hospital. I blame the radio station management – it’s against the law in every developed nation, to release confidential medical info, or to seek to trick your way into it. They should have had more sense. Though the DJs being so gleeful afterwards was pretty irritating, too.

        Having said that I don’t think anyone can be blamed for a death. That just wasn’t forseeable.

    • Skipper says:

      They still do that dumb prank in dc

    • the original liv says:

      i think ryan seacrest still does that on kiis – ryan’s roses. i’m not sure though, haven’t listened to him in a long time.

      anyways, just a quick question to people who say that the deejays should have gotten consent first, how would that work exactly? should they phone up and ask the nurse first? “hey we’re gonna pretend we’re are the queen and prince of wales and ask to speak to kate, is that alright with you?” i know for “ryan’s roses” they ask the girlfriend/boyfriend for permission, but it’s not like the person who they are “testing” actually ever give consent.

    • Lushus L. says:

      @ Val, I hate War of the Roses! A station where I live does it! It freaks me out so bad. I have always said that the DJ’s are playing with fire. I can’t believe they haven’t been sued or shot. Maybe it’s all fake. IDK.

  7. lem says:

    I read some articles on some of the other “pranks” that these DJs had pulled in the past, and while I don’t think they had murderous intentions when they called the hospital, they’re track record hardly makes me feel sorry for them. I’ve grown to hate them b/c I think they’re awful human beings.

    This Morrisey guy needs to shut up. It’s not really any one particular person’s fault that this woman died, and it surely isn’t the fault of one her patients, royal or not.

  8. Neekie says:

    Pippa would have SO SO SO many sales if she and her team properly promoted this book, regardless of quality.

    Can you imagine press junkets, a book tour covering several states, etc? A book tour in the US (where you could get a picture with her if you bought the book)…LA, NYC, Miami, etc.? There would be girls/women lining up for days!!

    IMO this is just poor poor planning and PR. Also, I totally agree- she has the cutest body and terrible taste in clothes.

    • EmmaStoneWannabe says:

      Completely agree. Pippa – and the royals – have more fandom in the US than they probably realize. Not intelligent to not do even a brief US tour. How long would it take to do 6 cities, 2 hours each? She could knock that out in a week and the dollars would be stacking up.

      ..Now if Prince Ginger writes a book and comes on a US Press tour for it…woah! Watch out America!!

    • bluhare says:

      In Pippa’s defense, I think the Palace stopped her from doing any interviews about the book, as it was right after Kate’s naked photo deal. I think her publisher was not amused.

  9. L says:

    Hospitalized for no reason my ass. And bright as a button right out of the hospital? Someone’s clearly not a doctor or even gotten a woman pregnant. He’s a douche.

    And is he expecting Kate/Wills to come out and rend their garments about this nurse’s death? They expressed sadness (over something that isn’t their fault)-what else is he looking for? And those DJ’s (while tacky) aren’t to blame either. It’s the media that turned it into a shit storm.

  10. Obvious says:

    that is a fantastic color on Pippa. There, i’ve said something nice… can i go back to being snarky now please?

  11. Talie says:

    Pippa is a dumb dumb for passing up America. That girl really wasted her moment.

  12. Emma says:

    Ah yes, Morrissey. That world renowned expert on pregnancy and maternal issues. What’s annoying me most here is how many things he got wrong.

    1. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge did make a statement about the nurse, not “say nothing”, as Kaiser points out.
    2. How does Mozza know Kate “feels no shame”?
    3. Yes, she does have a health condition. Yes, it is serious. Yes, it can kick in this early in pregnancy.
    4. Actually Moz, Kate left hospital the day before the poor nurse took her own life ,so this “bright as a button” as soon as she died stuff is just nonsense.

    Morrissey mate, stick to cats.

  13. Less is More says:

    Well, when you consider the fact QE2 gave birth to all four children at BP, why then would it not been possible to have a group of physicians arrive quietly at KP to hook her up to IV and provide meds?

    • EmmaStoneWannabe says:

      I am not in healthcare, or royal matters lol…but seems like that would be way more complicated and expensive than just a several-day hospital stay.

    • Amanda says:

      ^This. With the resources the Royal family has, why couldn’t they treat her at home? I think the hospitalization was more of a precautionary thing,

      • Suze says:

        The fact that she was hospitalized makes me believe that she was, and probably is, in pretty bad shape. Well that, and seeing her shaky exit down those hospital steps.

        Royal women used to give birth in the palace, so there would have been options to treat her privately if it was something like mild to moderate morning sickness.

        I believe it probably became severe quickly and that she gave William and her family quite the scare.

    • Belle says:

      I have thought about this myself. I do think Kate is sick, as I’ve said before… with HG, or just really bad ‘regular’ morning/noon/night sickness. I wonder why they didn’t have her evaluated and set up at home though, with IV fluids and medication. This way they would not have had to announce the pregnancy early.
      I tend to think that it might not have been very well thought through. Kate probably wasn’t feeling well, and got worse quickly. After being sick like that for a few days, she was miserable and everyone was probably worried… and if they contacted her doctor, he probably told them to take her to the hospital for fluids, and to have her evaluated. Every doctor should be thorough and act in the best interest of their patient… but I would think, given the fact that this patient is carrying an heir to the throne, they just might be extra cautious(; They would want to check on the baby and monitor Kate while they tried to get things under control. Unless there is a hard and fast rule that you MUST be admitted for IV fluids, I have a feeling that should Kate need treatment again, they will arrange to have it done at home. Unless of course, the PR spinners feel the need to ‘remind’ people of how sick Kate is.

      • Ann says:

        They probably had to admit her to run tests. You don’t necessarily know the symptoms are due to pregnancy right off the bat, it could have been caused by other things that needed to be ruled out. Especially if she was passing out as part of her symptoms, and not just throwing up.

        Given that I don’t think they wanted to announce the pregnancy this way, I’m sure she was hospitalized because they felt she needed to be, not on a whim.

      • Belle says:

        Agree Ann…. I don’t think I suggested she was admitted on a whim? I said her doctor would probably want to evaluate her and check on the baby while treating her. If you are referring to my suggestion that her doctor will probably be extra cautious as well… because of who she is… well, I believe he will be.

    • Amanda says:

      ^ This. I honestly think the hospitalization was more of a precautionary thing than anything. There is no reason why they couldn’t treat her at their castle. It would avoid media intrusion too.

  14. Gine says:

    Aw, someone’s sad that nobody pays attention to him anymore.

    There are plenty of reasons to dislike the royal family (and the concept of royalty in general) but bashing a sick pregnant woman who didn’t do anything wrong is just tasteless (especially the anorexia crack).

    • amanda says:

      This pisses me off. People have gotten so used to seeing overweight and obese people and are so quick to label the fit or thin as anorexic. Maintaining an appropriate caloric intake and exercise regime is just a lifestyle some of us stick to. Doesn’t make us any better but there’s no need to throw around the anorexic accusations. Especially to a pregnant woman, I hear they’re hormonal.

      And while I’m ranting – do up your shirt. Going to throw down some ageism but we really don’t need to see your gross old man chest.

  15. Less is More says:

    I don’t mind the colour of Pippa’s dress.
    It’s sorta Christmassy in a tree ornament shiny way.

  16. marie says:

    ok, so I’m a little confused. I thought the nurse who committed suicide was acting as the receptionist who transferred the call to another nurse who gave all the information? am I wrong?

    • Neekie says:

      The receptionist had stepped away from her desk for a moment, when the DJ’s called the hospital. Jacintha (the nurse who passed away) answered the phone because she happened to be nearby and transferred the call to the nurses’ station where Kate was staying. The nurse in the nurses’ station is the one who gave away all of the information.

      • marie says:

        ok, thank you.. but I still fail to realize why that would make the nurse commit suicide, if anything you would think the nurse who gave the information would be the one under fire right? am I missing something, I really feel like I am?

        I hate that it happened, it is unfortunate but that can’t be the only reason she took her life, it doesn’t seem possible.

  17. momosays says:

    I love Morrissey…love the Smiths. That is all. I think he is amazing, he had a great interview on Colbert a month or two ago, worth checking out.

  18. claire says:

    Ugh. I’ve long hated him. This just reminds me why. Wish he didn’t get any print for all the idiotic things he says. No one gives a sh*t what Morrissey thinks about morning sickness or anything else.

  19. epiphany says:

    Thanks – I went to YouTube and listened to the Smith’s version – you’re right, it IS whiny (nothing’s changed!) I don’t know who did the cover for ‘Charmed’, but it’s better than the original.

  20. Ann says:

    Someone who has never been, and will never be, pregnant should really keep their mouth shut when it comes to discussing pregnancy symptoms. Do you ever hear women giving interviews saying that the symptoms of prostate cancer or erectile dysfunction are all in a man’s head and he should just suck it up and deal?

    And Kate’s condition is very real. One of my friends had the same condition with two of her pregnancies, in the early stages. She was so sick and hurling so often, that she became severely dehydrated and kept passing out. She would have to go to the hospital for a couple days to be on an IV to rehydrate, get nutrition, and get her body chemistry back in balance. There is nothing amusing about the condition, and it really isn’t something to be joked about.

    • P.J. says:

      Excellent point! Most women wouldn’t dream of critiquing male symptoms.

    • BabySwans says:

      I completely agree with you! I had this same condition while pregnant and it was quiet honestly the worst experience of my life. I was a teacher & my husband a medical resident so I couldnt take a leave of abscence for financial reasons. Not only does it affect you physically, but emotionally as well. I was depressed & lookin back I should have probably been put on medications. I couldn’t be happy about the baby we had prayed for-how was I suppose to be happy about this alien being that clearly hated me? Or at least that’s how I felt-trust me, nothing is logical when you’re on your 10th vomit of the day. People would congratulate us or ask if I was excited and I would just shrug-how can you be excited when it’s a never ending flu virus that makes you cry all the time? I was terrified i wasnt going to love my child-thats how emotionally unattached I had become (however when i did give birth i felt an immense sense of relief- like this “alien being” had returned my body & I was me again). I honestly think that the only reason I never did anything drastic was bc I had grown up in catholic schools & I could hear the nuns in my head saying, “This is your cross to bear.” Is that weird? Anyway, when I could go to work, I had to walk around w this pink plastic Easter basket that was my “emergency bucket”. I would have to run out of class all the time or on really bad days my poor kids would run to me w the trash can. We’re there days I looked ok? I guess. I know I got dressed for work bc it was my job to not look like total hell, but does that mean I was physically or emotionally ok? No so he along w my school administrator that told me “everyone suffers morning sickness, just drink diet coke like i did”, can shut the hell up.

      Clearly I’m still bitter…

      I do want to say that I love my baby so very much-I didn’t know I could live like this. Am I willing to be pregnant again? I’m not sure…especially since 2/3 of women who suffer from hg will get it again and sometimes it comes back w a bigger vengeance.

      • BeesKnees says:

        I feel your pain BabySwans, I had HG too. I didn’t even know it was abnormal to be sick all day until I told my doctor that I was getting dizzy and he diagnosed me. I had to go to the hospital several times and passed out at my job in a classroom full of kids. And I agree about being afraid to be pregnant again, especially while taking care of my other child too!

  21. OXA says:

    Maybe this whole mess is Morrisey’s fault!
    How come he did not educate the masses that there is no shame in making mistakes.

  22. Louise says:

    OMG Pippa wearing earrings and a necklace that match the late Diana’s ring. Jesus!

    And I do believe there’s a grain of truth in Morrisey’s opinion here.

    I used to have no real opinion about the royals until I learnt the truth about them. They’re vile.

  23. The Original Denise says:

    I’m with Morrissey to a certain extent. Queen Victoria had 9 children without fuss and fanfare. BTW, Pippa’s dress is straight up fug. You press people need to stop trying to make this woman happen, or give her a make over! That dress is going to give me nightmares.

    • busy ramone says:

      Yeah, but Queen Victoria didn’t have a pre-existing eating disorder.

    • Ann says:

      What’s Queen Victoria got to do with anything? And how do you know what her symptoms were or were not? If she had the morons in today’s media around, they may well have spread a different story.

      Women’s pregnancy symptoms vary widely, not only from woman to woman, but pregnancy to pregnancy. You can feel great through one pregnancy, and like crap through another. Just because one woman feels good during her pregnancy doesn’t mean that all women who get sick are faking it.

      • Alexandra Bananarama says:

        You’re right. pregnancy can range from hell on earth for 9 months to “I never gained a pound with all 3 kids and didn’t even take an aspirin after the births”… My mother in-law grrr… I digress.

        Kate is probably pretty sick, but some of us find it’s harder to believe this with her for a couple reasons..
        She’s always painted as so fragile and weak. She’s always painted a victim. Kate will always have the worst of anything to come out as strong, brave, and a hero.
        So, she or at least her pr people always have an excuse to drum up sympathy. It just feels like more of the same.

        So again. She’s probably sick, but it sounds like they give her the worst to build up her image.

    • Emily says:

      Half the women during Queen Victoria’s reign who went into labor and were attended by male doctors, died from it because doctors would go directly from autopsy to the maternity ward without washing their hands. You had about a 50% chance of dying every childbirth. Before that, a woman had a one in ten chance of dying in childbirth some time in her life, and her babies’ chances of survival were far lower. I for one would not be alive without modern medicine — wouldn’t have survived my first week or my first couple years, and I would not have survived if I had not been born in a hospital post-NASA, either. If you would, you’re one of the rare and lucky ones.

      Bad, BAD example. It’s actually a laughable one. Did you know the reason Victoria was queen was because the direct heir to the throne, the only child of the first son of King George III, Princess Charlotte, died in childbirth? Her first one.

      Every pregnancy is different. Kate had a condition women can and do die from. She was lucky to have good health care. Are you under the delusion pregnancy is somehow not dangerous? Women still die from it all the time, and more often get health issues that dog them their entire lives.

    • Kate says:

      No, Queen Victoria didn’t have 9 kids without fuss or fanfare. She had severe post-natal depression, absolutely hated procreation and called it “the shadow side of marriage” – and when she died, her doctor discovered that she’d been living with a prolapsed uterus for 40 years. In basic terms, her uterus had fallen through her cervix and probably bulged from her vagina, on occasion. She had a ventral hernia (stomach bulging through, from where the abdomen parts to allow the bump through the muscles of your stomach) too.

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281397/

      She was told not to have any more children after the 9th as it could well kill her. And she only came to the throne at all because the previous direct heir, Charlotte of Wales, died in childbirth.

      As someone who has had HG and an ectopic pregnancy, and would thus be dead without modern medical care, your comments are ignorant to the point of being offensive. Google the White Ribbon Alliance to understand just how “safe” it is to procreate without decent medical care. Or google “rectocele” or “obstetric fistula” or even, and relevantly in this case, “Mallory-Weiss Syndrome”. I can supply more terms if you’re feeling brave enough.

  24. Reece says:

    I have no problem with him being anti-royal. His royals, his right. But beyond that STFD!

    “What is wrong with Pippa?! She has a cute figure, but she has such god-awful taste in clothes.” It’s genetic. Look at the way her sister dresses.

  25. Bowers says:

    The 2 DJs have been in trouble before for other unfunny pranks bordering on cruelty.

  26. Red Snapper says:

    I know I`m probably dead inside, but here`s what I think happened: Kate went home to Mummy and said `Mummy, people keep talking shit about how lazy I am. I`m gestating every day now! What can I do?” Then Kate and Carole decided that morning sickness was the key to sympathy and understanding, and called Will to take Kate to hospital ASAP. Then the prank call, followed by William FREAKING out, as per his history, demanding sackings, beheadings, etc. Then the suicide, followed by Kate leaving hospital. I think Kate figured that morning sickness would be the perfect excuse to get out of work, but still be able to do fun stuff, like movie premieres, but things are a bit too heavy for that right now, so she’s resting.

    I’d bet money that she’ll be feeling better enough to go shopping/get her hair done fairly soon.

    I get that you Moms are supportative of a fellow Mom-to-be, but I think she’s playing you.

    • Louise says:

      Red Snapper,
      How cynical and nasty of you. And how do you know all this? Do you live in the same house as Kate and William?? No? Didn’t think so. STFU.

    • Esti says:

      So when the nurse at the hospital, not knowing her comments would be made public, told someone she thought was the Queen that Kate had been vomiting a lot and was dehydrated and very tired, that was… what, someone the Middletons had paid off? Which I guess they did with everyone at the hospital, since the call wasn’t planned and could have come in at any time when anyone was there to answer it? If they wanted to fake morning sickness, why not call one doctor or nurse to the palace instead of going to a hospital where dozens of people would see you weren’t all that sick and would have to cover it up?

      You don’t have to like them, but maybe focus on reality-based reasons for your dislike instead of some fantasy world you’ve built up in your mind.

  27. Jayna says:

    What a pig. Go read up on the condition. I find him disgusting.

  28. Lucy2 says:

    Yet another male with no medical training spouting off about women’s health. STFU.

    The whole thing is a sad situation. Ranting at people who aren’t at fault solves nothing except continuing to show what an ass this guy is.

  29. Christian says:

    Oh, Morrissey. I love your music and usually get a good laugh/eye roll out of your c*ntish ways. For someone who is so anti-royal he certainly follows Will & Kate news a bit.

  30. The Original Mia says:

    I wondered too why doctors didn’t come to KP. I understand she was fainting & sick, but the media circus could have been avoided by treating her at home. As they are doing now.

    For all of William’s squawking about privacy, he had to know taking her to the Firm’s hospital was going to set off media frenzy.

    As for Morrissey, he’s a jerk.

  31. regina says:

    has anyone thought about the fact that this nurse might have been murdered!? I’m not a conspiracy theorist but this whole thing is so daggon shady and reminiscent of Diana’s obscure circumstances at the time of her death. the royals will stop at nothing to teach “lessons”

  32. Miss You Enclave24 says:

    Oh, and if this “rare” disease only affects about 1% of women, than 100% must reside in the UK. If you skip on over to the DM every other comment is from a female that was diagnosed. Something else to make you go hmmm. Unless of course the great health care in the Great Britain is performed by subpar doctors that like to jump the gun on diagnosis.

    Umm, yea….try again.

    • Louise says:

      Miss You Enclave – are you a doctor? A stats analyst. Nope, I thought not. Guess what, the small percentage you talk about is for REPORTED cases of HG. Many more women suffer from it but either treat it themselves at home (not wise as you can die of dehydration) or have doctor’s that brush it off as just “morning sickness”.

      • Miss You Enclave24 says:

        Louise, have you heard about how horrible and debilitating this desease is? I mean the reports are graphic and horrid. Imagine; a pregnant woman early on that vomits even when she swallows saliva (direct quote)! Not being able to keep food down, and is constantly under watch for dehydration- and this could last continuously for 9 months. Surely in the 21st century you are not implying that women are self medicating and allowing doctors to brush it off as normal? Why that would be silly, and very unhealthy.

      • Kate says:

        You’ve heard of the concept of a self-selecting minority, right? Of course women who’ve had HG are commenting in droves on this story, here and on the Mail. It’s so rare to be able to talk about it, or have people have any understanding of how awful it is.

        And yeah, diagnoses are rising sharply, because even 20 years ago several doctors were insisting morning sickness was psychosomatic. Some still argue SPD/PGP is. The notion that hormones so powerful a woman’s entire body can alter inside a year, while growing an endoparasite in her body, are likely to have serious side effects in many… seemingly a surprise. Women who used to be told to cope had to do just that unless they actually died. No other options. Now, doctors are more sympathetic.

        And most of the commenters in the Daily Mail website aren’t British these days. It’s the most popular news site in the world, which is why it skews so hard towards US stories and attitudes. The printed edition is fairly different.

    • BeesKnees says:

      I had HG and I have never met a single person in real life who also had it, so I see what you’re getting at. No one else in my family nor any of my friends or coworkers had it or even knew it existed. I think maybe a lot of people want to say they had it because of Kate… idk.

    • Emily says:

      I don’t know any Koreans. I guess Korea is a conspiracy myth.

    • Trollydolly says:

      Well observed Miss you enclave 24.

  33. fabgrrl says:

    Wow, I didn’t realize Morrissey was an OB/GYN, and that he is treating Duchess Kate! I mean, how else could he possibly now that she was in the hospital “for no reason”?

  34. j.eyre says:

    Diana complained about terrible morning sickness as well. Her pregnancy was reported later but she had been absent from the public eye for some time. When it was announced, both she and Charles were vocal about how bad she had had it… Diana herself first uttering the line ‘I don’t know why they call it morning sickness, it goes on all day’ (probably not a direct quote, I am going off memory).

  35. VanillaDeeLite says:

    How anyone can support these royals is beyond me. Seriously? Why????? This scam needs to end.

  36. Meerkat says:

    Not another Frock From Frumps R Us!
    It is truly horrible. Does she ever look in the mirror at the frock, the tights, the shoes…bleh.

  37. Chatcat says:

    Lovely, now the debate is whether this woman has legitimate morning sickness…and all this nonsense simply because the hater’s-gonna-hate-on-all-things-Kate.

    I have never heard of this Morrissey character before today, tools rarely catch or maintain my interest…this sorry ass excuse for a human won’t be any different.

  38. Chrissie Malcolm says:

    Morrissey is acknowledged as being a world-class arse – best to just ignore the sorry, old soul. He must be desperate for attention.

  39. Feebee says:

    This guy can’t be taken seriously, I mean who the hell does he think he is?

    I know who he is. And now I now what he is.

    This is the kind of bollocks that inspires great rants but he’s just not worth the effort.

  40. irishserra says:

    I think it was just a really unfortunate incident all the way around. I don’t think the Royals are to blame in any way, nor is the hospital. Additionally, while the prank was stupid and juvenile, it’s not uncommon to do such things and I really think that the nurse had to have some deep-rooted issues in order to react the way she did. It’s sad she died, but let’s put blame where it belongs – with her. She did it. Bottom line. She apparently felt her reputation or whatever was more important than her family (if that indeed is why she took her own life.)

  41. nikzilla37 says:

    I freakin love the CB just posted something about Morrissey. MoZ FoEva!

  42. JessSaysNo says:

    What an ASS! Pregnancy nausea and vomiting is utterly horrible and I was very close to being hospitalized myself for it but thankfully I didn’t end up needing to. You become dehydrated so quickly and it can harm your baby and even kill you. He needs to STFU immediately.

  43. BlueAngelCV says:

    “she feels no shame about the death of this woman”

    Why on earth should Kate Middleton feel any shame?

    This is the type of story which makes me so ridiculously angry.

    Fine, you don’t like the monarchy, say they’re useless, a tax burden, whatever. Do not launch personal attacks against them for no reason.

    • Emily says:

      This.

      Especially when the personal attacks are misogynistic. That doesn’t only hurt Kate — heck, it doesn’t hurt Kate at all, she’s at the tippy top of the tree. She can dry her tears on her boring designer gowns. But it does hurt a whole lot of women without Kate’s resources.

    • Kate says:

      I actually think it weakens the case against a monarchy if you make it personal. (I don’t mean people who dislike them on a slebby basis, I’m talking political republicans).

      If a monarchy is wrong in principle, it wouldn’t matter if St Francis of Assisi sat on the throne. It would still be wrong in principle. Trying to launch personal attacks on the individuals when you dislike the institution is actually weakening the argument, because it diverts attention. A genetic lottery, drawn from a hugely privileged and incestuous gene pool, is a dodgy basis for choosing a head of state. It’s also an expensive one, and arguably encourages corruption, lies and a spoils system. There are pros as well, but again, they need to be practical. getting into, “The Queen is awesome!” “yes but Charles is an arse” cuts the arguments that matter off at once.

  44. TG says:

    Can someone please explain hospital policy regarding a patient’s privacy? I don’t understand why anyone, including the Queen of England, would be able to call up the hospital, be transferred to Kate’s room and a nurse just blab to her about the patient’s condition. I would think that the only people who could get that info would be a spouse and or maybe the patients children. How does a mother-in-law qualify as someone who has the right to know of a patients condition? If your mother-in-law wants to know your condition than your husband can pass that info on if you are not able to at the time. That is what has me curious.

    • LAK says:

      The hospital is shifting blame HARD so that no one will ask that question. I imagine the Palace is doing the same behind the scenes.

      Kate and her bump are the no 1 gossip stories, or were for those few days, i am sure journalists worldwide were trying to get this information any way they could. The fact that these DJs succeeded so spectacularly is a failure of hospital and Palace security policy.

      My local NHS hospital is more secure than this.

      • Kate (newer one) says:

        Agreed. NHS hospitals are often better run than private ones, if less luxurious. They have such rigid protocols on this kind of thing that nurses just don’t give info out at all unless they know exactly who they’re talking to. I was in for a few days recently and I gave a list of names plus phone numbers of people they were allowed to talk to, and they also needed to know what ward I was on before being transferred. It’s a no-brainer.

        I’m deeply sorry for this nurse, but all she did was transfer. She didn’t give any info out at all. And if anyone did, that’s a huge failure of training, not nursing. Data protection law is the responsibility of the employer, surely.

  45. Emily says:

    “absolutely no reason”?!

    Well, add “misogynist pig” to Morrissey’s failures. Despicable.

  46. stephanie says:

    that dress is 100% fug bridesmaid. it’s pretty impressive. i like the color on her though. if it were matte, sans peplum disaster.

  47. Suze says:

    Morissey is a grump and an asshat – he makes himself look much worse than royalty.

    But more importantly, who told Pippa to wear that horror show of a dress?

  48. dcypher1 says:

    Im with morrissey anti royal.

  49. Trollydolly says:

    Convenient – now poor Jacintha “suicided” there will be a muzzling of broadcast and news media negative reporting.

    Like the topless French photos conveniently overshadowed the sex party shots.

  50. Fue McCormick says:

    … as an American I don’t hear (thank God) the voices of the Royal’s very often; however, the minute I heard the recording of the DJ’s impersonating QEII and Chucky I could tell it wasn’t the Royals because the Royals are ancient and don’t sound like 30 yr olds. So, I’m thinking the nurse was pretty stupid in more ways than one and hard of hearing. Don’t get me wrong, I feel sorry for her complete devastation that caused her to commit suicide and to leave behind her husband and kids … but … hmmmmmmmm?

  51. UghInsomnia says:

    I had to be hospitalized a few times for fluids and was on two types of anti-nausea meds during my last pregnancy. Phenergan and Zofran (Zofran was my fav bc it dissolved and brought faster relief. My “morning” sickness lasted until 6 or 7 months. That said, I cannot imagine what HG is like- I was absolutely miserable and vomiting at least 5-10 times daily. It got to the point that I carried sick bags wherever I went and even vomited while driving more than a few times. Miserable.
    Morrissey IS a cock horse.

    • Lucrezia says:

      Why would you think you don’t know what HG feels like? It sounds like you had it yourself.

      Maybe your doctor/s never explicitly said you had HG, but vomiting so badly that you require hospitalisation/IV-rehydration is not a “normal” side-effect of pregnancy.

  52. Lulu says:

    Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone’s got one.

    I imagine William took her to the hospital because loves her and ther baby and wanted to make sure they were OK. I think Morrisey is jealous and bitter, poor man.

  53. GoodCapon says:

    Except for Morrissey, I don’t think anyone doubts that Kate is sick. But some people question whether she really has HG or not. It’s not the first time the Palace has played the sympathy card. I personally don’t believe she has it, but it seems like everyone else fell for the Palace PR hook, line and sinker.

    • TrollyDolly says:

      GoodCapon, I WAS an apologist for KM and recall frequently arguing the point with you months ago. I now must admit YOU were right.

      • GoodCapon says:

        Yes I do remember you TrollyDolly. I humbly apologize if I have been very harsh to you at times. Kate just brings out the worst in me! I’m perfectly decent when it comes to talking about other celebrities, I swear! :D

      • TrollyDolly says:

        I’m not British, so have no emotional connection to the Royal Family (and frankly if I was, I’d really be questioning the conditioning)

        I genuinely did believe that before the wedding she was being unfairly criticised because she was not of the aristocracy – after all no one can help the circumstances into which they are born. I believed it was nothing but mean spirited snobbery and elitism.

        Since then I have read, watched and observed and frankly am not impressed by her demeanour. The spray paint jeans and wedges during the Olympics was the nail in the coffin.

        You have no need to apologise, you were always perfectly courteous. I just did not grasp the extent of the lies, spin, puff and bluster. Where has her family fortune come from? (it’s not Olive Lupton’s legacy for certain) and why for a woman educated to degree level in a prestigious University is she so shockingly inarticulate? I mean how much time has she had to hone her conversational and social skills?

        I am shocked at her vapidity.

  54. Izzy says:

    Oh, look. Dr. Morrissey has spoken. Thank you SO much. It’s not like I know more about my lady bits, considering I have them and he doesn’t.

    He must be related to Todd Akin. Perhaps we can send them both to live on a deserted island with tons of human anatomy textbooks, and no means of communicating with the outside world.

    • DrM says:

      +1….you can be anti- royalist all you like…but hyperemesis gravidarum is a serious issue and not something to mock or deny. I had a good friend who had it and she almost died as did her baby. She was hospitalized for 3 months.

      Like this a******e will ever get pregnant. Shut up you…your ignorance is showing.

  55. danni says:

    Morissey is the king!!!
    he represent the opinion of a lot of people!!!
    and the royal family is something that isnt relevant since the 16th century !!!!

  56. Kip says:

    The royal family didn’t overreact, they were guarding themselves against this exact thing: people drawing parallels between these two, possibly only vaguely connected circumstances. Everyone with common sense can assume that there were probably other reasons behind the nurse’s suicide, and if she did indeed take the prank call so hard, that she was vulnerable already. And seriously, feeling saddened by a suicide, albeit a stranger’s, and inquiring as to whether this person had children, is not being conceited. It’s showing some empathy. Please.

  57. pink elephant says:

    Somebody tell me again: why does a modern country (in the year 2012) still have royalty? Why is anyone expected to give them anything/special treatment or hold a straight face when all this princes and princesses garbage means nothing, just more taxes for people who live in an overtaxed country. They’re not even part of the governing body that makes decisions for England – just selling tabloids and designer clothes by proxy. Ridiculous.

  58. Meanchick says:

    I have no comment on the douche, so tell me WTH is going on with Pippa’s hair? Black on top, brown on the bottom? Yuck!

  59. Gloria says:

    The monarchy should fade into oblivion. Children die of poverty in England and yet these people live in multiple castles, are bankrolled by tax dollars and are honored for their “blue blood.” It is disgusting.

  60. Faye says:

    I don’t care what comes out of his mouth because it’s coming out of his mouth. His mouth says dumb stuff all the time. And he’s not just anti-royal, he’s anti-people. He’s just an angry little man.