Matt Damon on gay rumors: ‘I never denied those rumors because I was offended’

You know that Matt Damon is CB’s Forever Dong, right? True story. What I feel for Michael Fassbender, she feels for Matt Damon. It’s a heady mix of lust, longing, stalker-obsession and general warmth. So you might ask yourself, “How is it that you came to write about CB’s Forever Dong? Wouldn’t you try to cut a bitch if she tried to write about Michael Fassbender?” Excellent questions. I’m writing about Matt because CB is in the midst of some holiday traveling, and because she can’t slut-shank what she can’t see. I’m actually a big fan of Damon, I just never get to write about him because CB is always like “MINE MINE MINE!!”

So Damon has a new, long, extensive, HARD interview (I’m so hot right now) in Playboy’s January issue. He’s promoting Promised Land (the anti-fracking film) and Beyond the Candelabra, that HBO movie where he plays Liberace’s long-time, live-in lover. Liberace is played by Michael Douglas. So, if you want to stay hot when Matt Damon is talking about “straddling” and “kissing” Liberace, just replace Michael Douglas with Javier Bardem or Benedict Cumberbatch in your mind. My general thought on the interview? It’s really, really good – Matt is a delightful interview. But he is a shameless name-dropper. He name-checks EVERYBODY. You can read the full Playboy piece here and here are some highlights:

On Tom Cruise in Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol: “Seeing Tom Cruise running down the side of that building was the most incredible thing. I went, “Okay, you win. You are the greatest of all time.” He didn’t just appear to do it for the movie; he actually did that. I, literally, could never do that.”

Raising his daughters: “I don’t know, but Lucy and the girls can definitely bring me to my knees. They just know. My wife gives me s–t because it’s harder for me to discipline my girls, probably because they’re girls. With boys, I could relate more and it would probably be easier. Growing up, girls are so mysterious to us. Even as a grown man, they remain mysterious. My kids came into the world with a kind of hyper obsessiveness and stubbornness that I know I have. I’ve always been competitive. I used to be out-of-control competitive, like when I was playing games, maybe because I grew up with my brother, Kyle, who is three years older. I was always smaller, and it was harder for me to win.”

His fans and signing autographs: “I’ve never had a woman say, ‘Sign my ass,’ but I’ve drawn the line at autographing women’s skin. The people who are crazy enough to throw themselves at you tend to be so young that I’d be way too old for them. The ones who are slicker are probably interested in somebody else anyway. Besides, the narrative about me kind of goes, “He’s a boring married guy,” which is great, because I don’t get any of that other stuff like Brad Pitt and George Clooney do. Lucy doesn’t have to worry anyway.”

He’s been with Lucy for 10 years: “This is the first relationship I’ve had that wasn’t like work to be in. I never knew it could be like this. There’s always stuff you can work on, of course, but being married and having kids, for me, there’s a lot of romance, but it’s a much bigger endeavor with a lot of nuts-and-bolts problem-solving you have to do together. It’s like building a company.

He’s not good with romantic gestures: “No, I’m sh-tty at that. I wish I were better because my wife deserves somebody who surprises her with a gift or flowers or some wonderful idea. I’ve never been good at that, and she’s really good at it, which makes me feel even more like sh-t.”

The roles that got away: “Having to say no to Avatar was tough because I particularly wanted to work with James Cameron, and still do, because he’s fantastic. He knew he was the star of that movie and that everyone was going to go see it anyway. When he said, “Look, I’m offering it to you, but if you say no, the movie doesn’t need you,” I remember thinking, Oh God, not only do I have to say no because of scheduling, but he’s going to make a star out of some guy who’s going to start taking jobs from me later. Milk was another hard one because I was excited it would have been for Gus Van Sant, and I would have had the chance to do scenes with Sean Penn. They pushed the schedule and it ran into the slot for Green Zone. Steven Soderbergh’s mantra is “The movie gets the right person; the right actor gets the part,” but I was like, “Sh-t, no. That was my part.” But when I saw Milk, Josh Brolin was so f–king good that I knew Soderbergh was right. Way back, Gus and I talked about my doing Brokeback Mountain with Joaquin Phoenix, but I had just done The Talented Mr. Ripley and All the Pretty Horses, so I said, “Gus, let’s do it in a couple of years. I just did a gay movie and a cowboy movie. I can’t do a gay cowboy movie now.” The right actor got the part. Heath Ledger was magnificent.”

He voted for Obama again after being critical of Obama’s first term: “Definitely. I assume there will be some Supreme Court appointments in this next term; that alone was reason to vote for him. I don’t think I said anything a lot of people weren’t thinking. It’s easier now more than ever in my life to feel the fix is in, the game is rigged and no matter how hard you work to change things, it just doesn’t matter.”

On moving to the same neighborhood as Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner: “We lived in the same neighborhood this summer and had no problems at all. Granted, we didn’t look for attention by parading our kids down the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, but scandal and sex are what move most of those publications anyway. That’s not us. Ben and Jen are both famous, and people are interested in her and how she parents, which makes them a target. If we had gotten it like that, I wouldn’t have gone to Los Angeles. It’s just not worth it.”

Nudity and playing Liberace’s lover: “Well, normally I’d say no to nudity, but I just did a lot of it playing the long-term partner of Liberace, Scott Thorson, in Behind the Candelabra. I mean, it’s tastefully done. Steven Soderbergh directed it, and Michael Douglas plays Liberace. But this movie’s not going to be for everyone. These two men were deeply in love and in a real relationship—a marriage—long before there was gay marriage. That’s not an insignificant thing. The script is beautiful and relatable. Their conversations when they’re dressing or undressing or having a spat or getting ready for bed? That’s every marriage. It feels like you’re witnessing something really intimate you would normally see with a man and a woman, but instead it’s two men, which was thrilling. There’s stuff I think will make people uncomfortable. Great. It’s HBO—they can change the channel.”

Doing gay sex stuff: “We both have a lot of gay friends, and we were not going to screw this up or bulls–t it. It wasn’t the most natural thing in the world to do, though. Like, for one scene, I had to come out of a pool, go over to Michael, straddle him on a chaise longue and start kissing him. And throughout the script, it’s not like I kiss him just once. We drew it up like a football plan… I remember asking Heath Ledger after Brokeback Mountain, “How’d you do that scene with Jake?”—meaning the scene where they start ferociously kissing. He said, “Well, mate, I drank a half case of beer in my trailer.” I started laughing, and he goes, “No, I’m serious. I needed to just go for it. If you can’t do that, you’re not making the movie. Michael was a wonderful kisser. My concerns ended up mattering a lot less once we were filming. The dynamic between the men was complex and interesting. Liberace was very powerful and adored, a great showman making $50,000 a week doing his act in Vegas. Scott was much younger and grew up in foster homes, so there was a lot to play.”

Gay rumors and supporting the gay community: “I never denied those rumors because I was offended and didn’t want to offend my friends who were gay—as if being gay were some kind of f–king disease. It put me in a weird position in that sense. The whole thing was just gross. But look, there have been great signs of progress—the fact that Anderson Cooper and Ellen DeGeneres can come out so beautifully and powerfully, and it’s a big f–king deal that it turns out nobody gives a s–t. If Liberace were alive today, everybody would love his music and nobody would care what he did in his private life. Like with Elton John.”

[From Playboy]

He’s pretty awesome, right? There’s a lot to analyze but this post is already crazy long, so let me just say: I buy that Matt is actually friends with all of the people he name-drops, but he still might want to keep the Goopy-esque name-drops to himself sometimes. And I think he knows that Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner like to be pap’d, especially when they have something to shill, and I think it bugs him. Oh, and the dude loves his wife. Sigh… perfection.

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  1. Tasha says:

    He so called Jen and Ben out on the attention seeking/pimp kids out ways, Love it.

    • stellalovejoydiver says:

      Seriously. I thought that was a massive shade:
      “We lived in the same neighborhood this summer and had no problems at all. Granted, we didn’t look for attention by parading our kids down the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, but scandal and sex are what move most of those publications anyway. That’s not us. Ben and Jen are both famous, and people are interested in her and how she parents, which makes them a target. If we had gotten it like that, I wouldn’t have gone to Los Angeles. It’s just not worth it.”

      • Esmom says:

        I didn’t think the Santa Monica comment was a direct commentary on them, but rather a general jab at celebs who pimp out their kids. I’d think that would be way too blatant for him. Only the thing about “people being interested in Jen’s parenting” was a direct reference to them, I thought. That was more subtle and very well played.

      • Marty says:

        Maybe he’s talking about Chris Hemsworth and Elsa Pataky? Matt and Chris are friends, and this summer Chris and Elsa were papped a few times in Santa Monica. Or maybe it is just a generalization? Although it really seems he was talking about someone specific.

  2. BamaGuy1024 says:

    I absolutely love Matt, what a great actor and writer and producer. He is such a wonderful guy. No one can ever convince me that Matt and Ben were not lovers in the past. I love them both.

    • Emma - the JP Lover says:

      But would you say the same thing about two women who had been friends since one was 10 and the other 8 years old? There are lots of guys in the world who share similar ‘Bromances’ without being gay.

      Besides, Ben is SO not Matt’s type! :)

  3. Mia 4S says:

    I like him as a friend, I don’t know how else to describe it. He does nothing for me on a lust level, but I really do like him.

  4. Emma - the JP Lover says:

    Matty is the man! (Le sigh) I think he is an extremely talented, sexy, charismatic actor. I just can’t wait to see him in “Elysium” … and I ‘hate’ that I now have to wait longer to see the film.

  5. Esmom says:

    I’ll give him a pass for the name dropping. It’s not like he was gratuitously sliding in names of people he hangs out with (except Ben but that’s legit) to impress us, his comments were more industry related.

    The thing that bugs me slightly is how he’s “pro-gay” (for lack of a better word), yet was so freaked out by the gay kissing and sex scenes he had to do and so “thrilled” by the portrayal of a gay relationship? Seems a little bit contradictory. But still, he is great. Smart, thoughtful, witty, humble.

  6. carrie says:

    “if you has no gay rumors about you,you’re not a Hollywood star”

    Ben Affleck is the one&only straight actor in Hollywood :it’s why he’s the answer on every cheating rumor

  7. Valerie says:

    ‘Ben Affleck married Jennifer Garner and you married a bartender with a kid. These are facts.’ – Peter Griffin.

  8. pretty says:

    I love him so much. he is so hot and seems like a nice guy. he he he
    and he’s so handsome :) :)

    Let’s re-watch this awesome scene of him crying in Entourage. ahahaah he’s so funny!

  9. fabgrrl says:

    Matt Damon is my fantasy husband.

    • Carolyn says:

      he’s MY fantasy husband…as Jason Bourne. Hot hot hot. He seems like a nice, decent man in real life too. I like that he’s articulate and a good interviewee. Sigh.

      Too may celebs can’t put two sentences together. And that’s with help from the PR team.

      I don’t buy the rumours of he and Affleck as lovers either.

  10. TheOriginalKitten says:

    This was a really great read. I always enjoy Damon’s interviews because he always comes across as so genuine and comfortable with himself. Yes he drops names but he also keeps it real and I love that.

  11. flor says:

    Love Matt and LOVE how much he loves his wife.

  12. keats says:

    The reason I know that I love him is that the name dropping didn’t bother me in the least.

  13. Erin says:

    This was a great post! One thing though – I don’t think his “name-dropping” is at all inappropriate or distasteful as he’s only doing it in a professional sense. He’s just speaking about projects, and those happen to be the people he worked with and is talking about. He’s crazy A-list, so of course the people he works with are going to be as well. I really think Matt Damon is way too awesome to be a tacky namedropper ;)

  14. denise henderson says:

    I love that he loves his wife. Shes lovely, but not perfect. She wasnt famous or a model- she’s a normal girl and he never fails to say how much he loves her. And the mention about parading your kids— tee hee hee.. it’s true. You never see his wife and kids, and shes plenty famous just for being his wife so the pap’s would get her if they could. Love him.

  15. Jayna says:

    I think you missed the point. He knows if he was married to an actress that he would get the same treatment as Ben and Jen. I saw him in a quick interview once where he said he felt bad for Jennifer and Ben because they were a famous couple snd so received so much attention. He would never throw shade at Ben. He freakin loves that guy. No one cares about Lucy. She’s never even spoken in public. He says they are out all the time in New York and rarely get papped because no one cares about him.

    I love the interview and so love him even more now. He redeemed himself to a kind of odd statement, after responding to a question that he must love being married and if he said, no, that marriage was ridiculous and a ridiculous idea but that he loved being married to Lucy and she was the best thing that ever happened to him, but that if she left him he would never do it again because it’s crazy spending the rest of your life with one person and not be totally driven crazy.

    I loved that he said Lucy didn’t have to worry. So sweet.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      YES! This^.

      I think people totally misconstrued what he said due to their Affleck-hate tunnel vision.

      Damon loves Affleck like a brother. I saw the interview you’re talking about. I also heard him saying that there was a time (assuming he was referring to the J. Lo era) when he felt really awful for Ben because he could see that his off-screen persona had eclipsed his on-screen talent.

      Personally, I think Affleck’s talent is BEHIND the camera. But yeah, these two guys adore each other and even though I know everyone around here hates Ben, I think it says a lot about Ben that Damon still speaks so highly of him.

    • Emma - the JP Lover says:

      @Jayna, who wrote: “He would never throw shade at Ben. He freakin loves that guy. No one cares about Lucy. She’s never even spoken in public.”

      Oh he has SO talked sh$t about Ben before. Google ‘Matt Damon talks about Ben Affleck’s relationship with Jennifer Lopez’ sometime. He said Ben nearly ruined his career by being Papped so much with J-Lo. Something like “Once your face is on the cover of a tabloid, you’re fu@ked.” He wasn’t too subtle about hinting that perhaps Ben really liked the attention either. :)

      • Jayna says:

        That wasn’t shade. It was honest reflection on the situation, but he also defended him about that era too. Ben has said the same thing about that time. It was true. Ben lived a high-profile life with The other Jen, though only one together interview. I was stating he’s not throwing shade at this Jen/Ben.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        I think the perceived “shade” was more about J Lo herself and the media’s obsession with their relationship.

        I genuinely think these guys are besties…a bromance, if you will.

      • Emma - the JP Lover says:

        Nope, I’m pretty sure he was knocking Ben for being a media/celebrity status obsessed nut while he was with J-Lo. LOL!! And you could tell by the way he said it that he’d said the same thing to Ben. :)

        Good friends are always ‘real’ with each other. They can both probably get away with calling each other a dick or bonehead about issues when they think the other is being a tool and remain BFF’s.

        And let’s not forget that J-Lo was the ‘Jennifer Aniston’ in that relationship.

  16. Jayna says:

    Can I just say Matt and Ben have been my heart throbs since Good Will Hunting, alternating at different times. Sometimes Matt can look average with a certain haircut, but then he flashes that sexy, gorgeous smile and I melt. It transforms him into the sexiest man around. I so loved him in The Talented Mr. Ripley.

  17. Lipsy says:

    Matt Damon/Jason Bourne FTW! I will love him foreverrrr

  18. Bird says:

    Matt Damon is the perfect man. LOVE HIM.

  19. Jackson says:

    Seriously, he is great. I don’t really get the name drop criticism though. Without the names in there the stories wouldn’t make sense to me. So, yeah, he gets a pass from me.

  20. claire says:

    I love him. Always have. He’s funny, smart, thoughtful, says it like it is.

  21. j.eyre says:

    I thought it was a good interview. I am a little confused on his thoughts about the gay rumors but I think he just worded his answer awkwardly and is probably gay-blind as well as color-blind.

    However, it was a little difficult to read his interview as my mind kept generating pictures of him and Michael Fassbender making out.

  22. Amy C says:

    Matty always is good at chatting even in face to face interviews. No wonder he has all girls. (kidding) I think it is nice interview for most part except for some of it like we ( he and the BA family) don’t parade our children. Lies his friend BA and JG are the most child pimping parents than anyone with that level of fame. He may not pimp his kids much since his wife is not much of a celebirity and they seem to do it differently than BA family.

  23. I Choose Me says:

    First movie I ever saw Matt Damon in was School Ties. I was all about Brendan Fraser then and hated Matt. He seemed to play a douche all too well. Then I saw him in Good Will Hunting and thought hmm he’s kinda cute after all and a good actor. It was project Greenlight however that made me really like him. Then came the Bourne movies and I was like when the eff did he get sooo hot? His brief part in Euro Trip where he played the rocker that stole Scottie’s girlfriend – THAT sealed the deal. Shaven head Matt Damon with a spider neck tattoo, biceps showing and just looking hard-core. Unf!

    Loved this interview.

  24. Emma - the JP Lover says:

    @I Choose Me, who wrote: “First movie I ever saw Matt Damon in was School Ties. I was all about Brendan Fraser then and hated Matt. He seemed to play a douche all too well.”

    Me too! I hated little shorty (that was before I learned that Ben Affleck is 6’3″ tall), snot-nosed Matty. LOL!! After “School Ties,” I absolutely refused to watch anything with Matt in it, until the Kevin Smith film “Dogma,” which I love! Then my sister rented “The Bourne Identity” one night and the rest is history. :)

    And you’re right … that “Scotty Doesn’t Know” scene in “Euro Trip” is awesome!

  25. Nicole says:

    I love his interviews. I did not understand his appeal until I saw the Bourne Identity 3 years ago. He was so hot in those movies.

  26. mkyarwood says:

    His wife is so gorgeous. Also, is it a name drop if you’re A list? Like, if NotLively or Jennie Garth’s castoff were using those names in an interview, I would consider it name dropping.

  27. BlueAngelCV says:

    Is it just me or is there a not missing from the quote?

    Does he mean he never denied the rumours because he wasn’t offended or that he did deny them but it wasn’t because he was offended?

    Either the not is missing or he should have said didn’t instead of never.

  28. Mira says:

    Okay. Gus Van Sant should make a movie with Matt and Joaquin as lovers. That is what I want to see. It would be some intense sh-t.

  29. Liz says:

    Excellent post. I LOVE the way Matt talks about his wife. I think she’s lovely.

  30. Issa says:

    What makes him hot he’s smart and he loves his wife. His marriage reflects his intelligence. He married the right person & the person he loves versus someone wanting to promote their career and image.

  31. Moi says:

    Holy crow, I love this guy now. What an honest, down to earth person. The things he said about girls, his girls, his wife, politics, doing a gay scene when he’s not gay, everything. I would like to hang out with him in a pub in Boston please.

  32. Britt says:

    Sigh…I love him. He is adorable.

  33. Jane says:

    Name dropping? I didn’t see it as name dropping because he wasn’t doing in the traditional sense, where he was trying to impress and show how connected he is.

    He was being interviewed about his work and seeing that he is an A list actor and works with the more well known people, how is he suppose to tell these stories? Refuse to use names of people he works with and how they fit into the story he is telling? That would not only be boring, but pointless.

  34. Miss M says:

    I loved the interview. Just the fact that he admits women are mysterious alone gives him extra points.

    The point he made about not addressing the gay rumors is exactly the same one George Clooney made during his Oscar campaign, almost the same words. I am glad he is with Lucy and she has nothing to worry about. I guess George was a good influence on Matt by telling him to make it official once Lucy got pregnant.

    The name dropping doesn’t bother me either because he knows them and he is using them just as examples to emphasize his stories.

  35. Adaptation says:

    Ben Affleck married Jennifer Garner and you married a bartender with a kid. These are facts.’ – Peter Griffin.

    Abso-xxxxx-lutely… The first real love of MD’s life was a brilliant medical student who left him for a rock star. If people are what they do (and they are) it’s clear he wanted simplicity and no competition intellectually or career wise from a wife. And who can blame him really, the wife and kids serve as a great sanctuary from the craziness of fame and the demands of a film career.

    I’m sure it works for him, but Affleck definitely took the bigger risk.

    • mimi says:

      Ben did not take a risk. He was basically “forced” to marry her once she got pregnant, having all his issues and promising he would not leave the mother of his children like his father.

      Exploiting his father issues was saying a lot about Garner.

      Damon marrying a woman with not career is one thing. You should not have brought up the fact that she had a kid. That’s actually painting Damon in a positive light in my book (and I don’t even like him to begin with, so don’t get me pro- MD, here).

  36. exxo1111 says:

    I love that he praised Tom Cruise on Ghost Protocal b/c he publically said that any actor who says he does all of his stunts is a liar.

    Everbody thought TC. Here, he does a classy thing and gives TC a nod.

    Matt is all class.

  37. MrsBPitt says:

    Sorry…I never thought Matt was hot at all…very ordinary looking…seems like a nice guy…but Ben is def the hotter of the two!

  38. ??? says:

    He says no to nudity in his films? Didn’t he have a sex scene in The Good Shepherd, released 6 years ago? Maybe he means he says no to full body nudity? I can’t keep track of all the subtle distinctions Hollywood actors make.

  39. mimi says:

    I don’t like him, but I did like his dig at Jen Garner and how she parades her children.

    He is an intelligent man, always has been, and even when he wants to diss somebody, he does it in a 9way with style.

    I think he should have done something more with his life than waste his talent and intellect on acting, something that many others can do.

    I do wonder if he is actually leading this so called double life, in which case, I would be terribly dissapointed he didn’t come out of the closet and lives with a beard (even if he sounds very respectful towards her).

    I guess you can be liberal and smart, but not brave, or scared that it will take your success and career.

    It’s never too late to live your life for real, in the open, Matt. I still adore how hot NPH is (on top of being talented).