Is Robin Thicke’s summer hit song & video ‘Blurred Lines’ kind of ‘rapey’?

By now, I’m sure everyone had heard Robin Thicke’s new song “Blurred Lines”. It’s everywhere these days, on the radio, on MTV and skyrocketed up the charts. The song features T.I. and Pharrell, and I really understand why everyone compares Robin to Justin Timberlake now – only I would argue that with “Blurred Lines,” Robin has overtaken JT in a big way. This is the kind of catchy summer song that Justin Timberlake could have been doing if he didn’t take himself so seriously.

Anyway, there’s been a lot of controversy about the song and the music video. I’m including the less-gross version, the rated version of the video below, and you can see the extremely NSFW unrated version here. In both versions, there are attractive young women dancing around and acting sex-kittenish. Of course. The unrated version makes me feel kind of sleazy, with all of the undressed women dancing in a drugged-out way while Robin, Pharrell and T.I. are fully clothed. But is the problem JUST with the videos? Or is there a problem with the “rapey” lyrics too?

Here’s a sure-fire way to get the No. 1 record in the country: engineer a fake controversy by making an unrated version of your video featuring strutting, mostly naked supermodels. That’s the route blue-eyed crooner Robin Thicke took with his single “Blurred Lines,” which sits atop the Billboard charts this week, ending Macklemore’s long reign.

The video, which was banned from YouTube at the end of March, continues to live on in its full naked glory on Vevo—coincidentally, a partner of YouTube—where salacious viewers can view three models, Emily Ratajkowski, Jessi M’Bengue, and Elle Evans, wearing nothing but shoes and nude-hued thongs, as they cavort and dance and flirt with Thicke, Pharrell, and T.I., who are all fully clothed. The group play with weird, nonsensical props—a needle, a lamb—and in between the screen intermittently flashes hashtags (i.e., #Thicke).

At one point, the sentence, “Robin Thicke has a big d–k,” is displayed in large Mylar balloons.

So far, so … sexy? Depends on who you ask.

The nudity might be fine if the song was called, “Let’s All Have Some Fun,” but it’s called “Blurred Lines,” and the subject itself is enough to make some female music fans uncomfortable. The song is about how a girl really wants crazy wild sex but doesn’t say it—positing that age-old problem where men think no means yes into a catchy, hummable song.

“Good girl, I know you want it,” sings Thicke, who has all of his clothes on, as one of the near-naked models dances and pouts next to him. “Talk about getting blasted, I hate these blurred lines, I know you want it, but you’re a good girl, the way you grab me, must want to get nasty.”

Not surprisingly the combination of the lyrics and the video’s nudity has irked some female music fans.

“Has anyone heard Robin Thicke’s new rape song?” Lisa Huyne wrote in a post on her blog, Feminist in L.A. “Basically, the majority of the song (creepily named ‘Blurred Lines’) has the R&B singer murmuring ‘I know you want it’ over and over into a girl’s ear. Call me a cynic, but that phrase does not exactly encompass the notion of consent in sexual activity … Seriously, this song is disgusting—though admittedly very catchy.”

Canadian model Amy Davison also took issue with the clip. In a YouTube video titled “Robin Thicke is a dick,” she explained why the women showing so much skin got under her skin.

“The women are clearly being used as objects to reinforce the status of the men in the video. The men have all the control and status because they are not vulnerable—they are completely covered. Whereas the women have no status and are totally open to be exploited ogled and used,” she said. “It doesn’t jibe with me.”

[From The Daily Beast]

I can totally see their point. The lyrics could definitely be interpreted as “rapey” especially taken with the grossness of the unrated video. I’ll admit that I’ve been listening to it for a few weeks (yes, I downloaded it because I thought it would be a good workout song) and my interpretation of the lyrics (for what it’s worth) is not so much that Robin is singing about forcing himself on a woman, but that he’s trying to sweet-talk a girl at a club who is dancing provocatively. I take the “you’re a good girl” as a tongue-in-cheek joke, like Robin is just playing to the girl’s ego while he’s hitting on her. That’s my interpretation, for what it’s worth. It’s still kind of gross, but my interpretation is less rapey and more “guys will say anything to girls at the club”.

Also – Robin has said that he was trying to do a “Terry Richardson kind of video” but before he agreed to it, he had to get permission from his wife, Paula Patton.

PS… If you’re looking for another Pharrell-related summer song for your workouts, try this. It’s amazing.

Photos courtesy of WENN.

 

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  1. menlisa says:

    Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke should never be in the same sentence.
    Thicke is way more talented.

    I feel like this is faux outrage. The lyrics are far from being ‘rapey’.

  2. teehee says:

    The whole culture is saturated with it and reinforces it. All the objectifying, all the rendering women as mere props– all of it contributes, and thats not even to mention his lyrics. He is not necessarily crating this single handedly, so much as he is not one bit smart enough to be above the mass cultural sickness and just mirrors what is around him, and is going with the flow without questioning it or himself first. Lousy.

    • Chordy says:

      Well said! I was into this song and had it on repeat for a while, but the more I listened to it, the more I realized how grossed out I was by the lyrics. I was like, “well it looks like Robin Thicke went for the dudebro easy sell.”

    • T.Fanty says:

      Yes. What’s shocking is how unshocking this blatant objectification and sexism is. The video is as degrading as it gets to women, but it’s Pharrell Williams, so no surprise there.

      And it’s not like Thicke is alone here. It’s a cacophony of rising voices that are continually negating women’s right to say no. What makes this example particularly virulent is that it’s done in a light-hearted manner, akin to bullying, putting the pressure on the girl to be “fun” and accept his behavior for fear of being labelled “humorless” or “prudish.” Seeing it as humor doesn’t make you in on the joke, it makes you a passive participant in your own objectification.

      Have you seen this article on the sexual assault book on Kickstarter?
      http://www.newstatesman.com/lifestyle/2013/06/kickstarter-author-responds-manual-sexual-assault

      • Anna-fo-Fanna says:

        Agreed! It’s also shocking to me how many people in the comments are defending this crap when stories like Stubenville exist in the world, and are increasingly more common.

        I saw that article, and it made me sad that things have come to this point where books advocating forcing your attention on a women are supported by at least some of the masses. When did it come to this??

      • teehee says:

        Yes thats what I broughtup below— the Steubenville brought up “the objectification must stop” argument, bu today its “whats your problem, you cant handle a joke?” argument.
        Maybe people dont understand how much it has really woven into our society. Maybe moreso, people dont want to know how their own actions and preferences can really contribute to tragedies that occur- but really its coming from somewhere. The more airtime and fame people like this are given, the more young men will grow up absorbing this…. the more people say :its just fun: the more men will start believing, this kind of thing really IS fun- and isnt that exactly waht happened in Steubenville (sp)? They didnt think it was anything bad, they thought it was funny.

      • K.T. says:

        Definitely blurred lines of probleatic sexual identification for kids and adults. We have a long way to go but at least not we’re having the rape/rapey discussion around this type of song where five years ago people would probably have seen nothing wrong at alol. And twenty years ago, hair bands whoop whoop!, it would be actually encouraged. ;)

        Its obviously a personal choice but I’m-not-buying-it or thinking that the questioning of lyrics or dodgy vid is ‘pearl clutching, PCness’. Also Thicke’s lame excuse was that being all ‘family’ men and that’s why he thought this track was ironically great. No one would see them as objectifying women – duh. The ‘my friend’s black/women/other and so touts fine’ excuse.

        I spent a lot fo time on this ‘toxic masculinity’ subject especially relating to Steub. and college sexual violence and there is some does have a correlation. Only a few men rape (undetected rapists who do it to acquantances and dates etc.) yet they often do it serially, with a predator mentality and usually with impunity.

        Whats easier to change is the behaviour of the bystander. We can actually appear to make differences in the statistics by educating bystanders actios. This sort of song, these type of messages just ‘blur’ that line where we kind of just become culture bystanders to the norm of a sexist dodgy objectifying girls mentality. Its not such a surprise when kids may seem something they think appears a little off, they get confused messages from their peers, parents, tsaches, coaches… when the line is so loose about how bad girls perhaps can’t say no, or god girls don’t want to. Ick.

        Anyway, I’ve met Pharrell and bit disappointed because he’s a thoughtful dude but we’re all product of our environment and he talked about getting controversy for press so it all works in terms of getting the clicks and commerce.

  3. Daahling says:

    It’s a song. If you have any rapor rock songs in your collection that wax about violence, “bitches,” or other such lovely topics, shush. It’s a song that is fun to dance to. And anyways, Thicke > Timberlake post 2006.

  4. Isa says:

    I love the song. I didn’t think of it that way, at all. My favorite part is when he says, “I feel so lucky, you want to hug me. What rhymes with hug me?”
    And that brunette has perfect breasts. I want to take her photo to my future plastic surgeon.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      The song is infectious.

      ..but why a post about Blurred Lines and not any more pics of my boy Pharrell? :(

      It makes me sad because when you lay out all the lyrics like that, I can see how one would deem it to be “rapey”, even though I NEVER ONCE thought that while listening to it. I don’t want to give it a free pass just because I think it’s a fun song but I also try to stay consistent and if I think about it, I like a lot of songs, particularly hip hop songs, that are probably not very respectful of women.

      I don’t know…maybe I’m making excuses? I just love music and I take it for what it is-fun stuff to nod my head to. Maybe I should be more aware of how it affects the collective conscience…

      …and that chick does have nice boobs.

      • Isa says:

        Yea I’m going to have to read the lyrics to the whole song. I don’t know what TI is saying because I miss a lot when people start rapping. I thought he was singing about picking up on that chick’s signals and was waiting for her to say the word.

      • Miss Kiki says:

        I’ve been having this argument with myself for a while now. Where do I draw the line?

        It was only last week that I was really questioning the lyrics of this particular song and realised that I felt really uncomfortable with some of them but come Saturday night I was dancing away. If it’s not this song it’ll be another one, do we stop listening to all the songs we like because of the content?

        Oh and Lol you’re funny, Pharrell is definitely my boy!

      • V4Real says:

        “I know you want it’ over and over”

        Hell yes Robin I want it. This song is in no way about rape. That line is more of a tease in a flirtatious way. People need to STFU.

        Should Beyonce and the rest of Destiny Child be called out for their song No No No. They say the guy be saying no when it’s really yeah.

        Look at Rihanna’s Rude Boy. The lyrics in that song is come here rude boy can you get it up, come here rude boy is you big enough, take it.

        And why not call out every rapper who has released a song.

        Sometimes the people in the media and the industry are so full of shit that they need an enema to clean all the crap out.

        Nice try people abd thanks. The more controversial they make it, the more popular it’s going to become. #1 Hit for my boy Robin. :)

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @Miss Kiki & V4Real-

        Yeah I mean…where do we draw the line?

        That’s the thing — I always take the approach that art is kind of off-limits when it comes being perceived as “offensive”, I would defend Damien Hirst’s work or Cronenberg’s work just as vehemently as I defend Wu Tang.

        I just feel like there should be ONE realm, one CORNER in this world where freedom can exist and for me, I’ve deemed that place to be the art world, which is everything from movies to music to paintings. I’ve always felt that controversy and free speech/free thinking should be able to exist untouched in that world. I guess the issue is when these things transcend their art home and permeate pop culture to the point where little kids are repeating rap lyrics that call women “hos”.
        I dunno..I was also raised by artsy parents and I remember my dad buying me a tape that had the “explicit lyrics” tag on it (thanks Tipper Gore) because I was under 18, so maybe my perception was largely colored by how I was raised. *shrugs*

        PS-Pharrell is MINE MINE MINE!!!

      • Seagulls says:

        @TheOrig
        I agree in theory, but in reality, it’s just creates unnecessary hostility toward women. Plus, there isn’t anything creative about it.

      • Esmom says:

        @TheOriginalKitten, very good points. My early teen sons love it and we’ve been “dancing” to it in the car but I have to admit I’ve pondered the lyrics, thinking they are somewhat ambiguous. I also cringe at the “bitch” version because I would never tolerate them referring to women or girls that way (and they know it).

        My kids are at the very early stages of discovering the opposite sex and this and a couple other songs have helped pave the way to discussing how they need to treat the girls/women in their lives with respect.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @esmom: The thing is, I remember listening to hair metal as a kid (*hangs head in shame*) and seeing all the cheesy videos like Whitesnake’s “Here I Go Again” with the chick writhing on the hood of the car and thinking “that’s wrong..but this song ROCKS!” (don’t judge me please)
        ..and I was raised by two feminists-both my dad and my mom taught me that women being demeaned is just plain wrong.

        So should I have boycotted Whitesnake or Poison because they objectified women in all their videos? eh…..maybe I should have but I didn’t because I loved their music.

        Ultimately, I think a feminist attitude is most easily and directly formed at home, from parental influence. Something like a pop song might very insidiously contribute to rape culture, but I think the actual changing of men’s attitude towards women comes from how we’re raised.

        My brother grew up listening to the same music as me and watching the same videos and he proudly proclaims himself to be a feminist. I think guarding against the subtle but pervasive influence of videos like “Blurred Lines” comes from instilling strong moral values in our children.

        I hope that doesn’t sound like a cop-out because I really do respect and appreciate everyone’s opinions about the matter. I think they’re important and relevant, but I don’t think I’m going to stop listening to the music I love because some find it offensive.

      • V4Real says:

        Kitten that was Tawny Kattan and that song did ROCK!

    • Esmom says:

      @TheOriginalKitten, It doesn’t sound like a cop out at all. Thanks for the thoughtful response (and no judgement on the hair metal, lol. It was not my cup of tea but I listened to plenty of stuff that makes me cringe now *cough REO Speedwagon cough*).

      I think it’s better to acknowledge the misogyny and use it as a platform to educate my kids rather than simply condemn it.

      Plus as you mentioned, it’s an infectious and fun tune! My boys are musicians and I think a variety of influences is important.

    • Jackie says:

      I’m so glad I’m the not the only one who noticed the boobs. They’re perfect, I wish I had ‘em. And the whole rapey thing is just so stupid. I think it’s really overreaching.

      Whoopsies… I meant this as a reply to Isa

  5. Pixie says:

    I LOVE this song! I haven’t taken a rapey vibe from it, though.

    • vanilla says:

      Wow very well said! I really cannot stand the sanctimonious PC brigade attacking art just because it does not suit their worldview. It always reminds me how so called “progressive” people have turned into pearl clutching Victorian old ladies. See also Lindy West.

  6. jen says:

    I’ve never heard this song. I just watched the NSFW video and it’s super gross. Makes me feel disgusting honestly to just have all those naked women stand around as fully clothed men oogle them. And as big a douche as I find Justin, Robin will NEVER be as successful as him. (and P.S. Robin cheats on Paula Patton all the time. He put the moves on one of my friends while she was working at a party IN HIS HOUSE WITH PAULA IN THE NEXT ROOM)

  7. Tiffany :) says:

    I took it as he is hitting on a girl at a club, trying to get her to leave the guy she came with. They reference another guy a couple times.

    I really care about the issue of rape in our country and our world…but I don’t see this as being rape related.

  8. jc126 says:

    I think the whole video is clearly supposed to be funny, as is the song. It’s funny. how can anyone watch that and take it seriously?

  9. Littlebowbee says:

    Love the song and the video. It’s sexy as heck! Can’t take it so seriously. I don’t get rapey vibes at all. I’d like to blur lines with everyone in the video all night.

  10. Lipsy says:

    On a random note, how is their child so blonde?! I know he’s just 1/4 black, but I’m amazed at how genetics work.

  11. LB says:

    I hate the video, btw. But fortunately I don’t watch it. Just listen to the song while I’m running or want to dance.

  12. Itwillrain says:

    I am fine w the song. I am *not* fine w the video. Having the models strut around half nude adds nothing, and actually seems more awkward than artistic.

  13. Apples says:

    Great post.
    I LOVE this song, so, I am going to go with your interpretation.

    My first thought was that the video lameness was due to being budget and something easily filmed in one day. Sexy girls- mostly naked- sells, and isn’t a new concept for videos.

    More workout song suggestions!

    • JonahT says:

      Actually these videos have HUGE budgets. It’s not about how many explosions or helicopters there are, it’s super stylised and done to a super high standard cinematography-wise and most of all, people cost money (especially models). Still meh though.

  14. ClaireB says:

    Ok. Get it. Funny and all. WHY do they have to be naked ? I mean seriously, it looks like the beginning of a porn video made by Terry Richardson. (There are plenty of those somewhere, aren’t there.)

    It would have been really cheeky if they were naked, and the girls fully dressed.
    But I guess that’s out of the question.

  15. Harriet says:

    I fear being an art major will make me sound snobby here regarding the direction of the video… But calling this song rapey…I think everyone has their sensitivity goggles on….

  16. EIleen says:

    He looks so much like his father it’s scary-saw the video and see why he had to get pre approval from his wife for that video

  17. Pants O'Sass says:

    This is by far the best video I’ve seen of the song so far… It’s amazing and pokes fun at some of the objectification issues, God Bless Jimmy Kimmel.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTqmiwHHktE

  18. Jay says:

    Yeah, that’s rapey.

    Which sucks, because I really like Robin Thicke. :(

  19. Kikki_D says:

    I remember reading a lengthy discussion in this blog’s comments section, about whether it was “decent” of Princess Kate to be topless on a private estate. I find it strange that women even consider a half-naked person in a private home to be undecent but on the other hand find girls being reduced to porn-like objects (for money, no less) “funny”. To me that’s all mixed up – natural body feeling should be fine. Exploitation shouldn’t be.

    • teehee says:

      Interesting— possibly, it is ‘wrong’ because it isnt meant for consumption- ie, it is “off limits” and therefore should be “kept that way” by not being visible to anyone who cant have it. Models are meant to be seen, so in that sense showing themselves is “acceptable”, if only by definition.
      Its the same thing that goes on in the mind of a sicko, imo: no one looks twice at the woman selling herself on teh corner, but they love to glare and steal a look at a normal woman in a skirt. Why? Because they cant have it.
      But sometimes, that envy turns into violence or justification – ie, she was askign for it with her clothing. Really, the only thing that happened, was a loser got frustrated.
      Thats making a big argument out of an intersting comment— sorry. LOL
      Add: the irony of it all is, they don’t treat ‘property’ any better either. They dont have any more respect for the woman they can in fact buy or just use…. so its a no win situation for women. I put the ball back in teh mens court yet again and say they need to be at peace with their own sexuality and not consider it a game of win or lose or defeat or be defeated.

  20. Amanda says:

    I think its more the lyrics. The song has a catchy beat, but when you actually pay attention to the lyrics, it is kind of rapey.

  21. Bridget says:

    I think there’s more than just the lyrics to take into account – after all ”I know you want it, and I’m going to make sure you feel comfortable and that I’m not crossing any inappropriate boundaries with you” isnt quite as catchy. In instances like this I think we havr to take into account the artist, and considering that the whole vibe of Thicke is one of seduction vs. force, that the consent is implied with the song. The sexiness is in the idea of letting yourself get carried away vs someone making you do something you dont want to do. I could be splitting hairs, but I do think that is a part of the discussion. The video, though… Yeesh. Not sexy, totally objectifies women and the power dynamic is creepy.

  22. Jayna says:

    I listen to a ton of R&B. I never got rapey off this . Seriously? Why is no one up in arms about Kanye’s Yeezus with his derogatory remarks about women in it? Yet it’s called genius.

  23. HH says:

    Ummm… This isn’t objectifying as much as it is comical (in a good way). Yes the woman are scantily-clad, but they’re hardly dancing very scandalous. Unlike some videos, these women aren’t even grinding on the men or shaking their butts directly at the camera. And isn’t homeboy “sexily” eating an ice cream cone in one shot? LOL! C’mon people! The video is “playful” at the least and “satirical” at best, but that’s it.

    • Jayna says:

      Exactly. A woman shot the video. They wanted it fun and tongue-in-cheek. The guys were supposed to be dancing very geeky and girls not dirty sexy, no grinding, booty-shaking, etc. She did the nude one to grab attention, knowing it wouldn’t be shown on youtube, and it got the song attention. Women objectified in a music video? Wow, never have seen that before.

      So much of R&B is all about seduction and getting it on (Love me some Fredde Jackson), and this is just a fun song. It’s funny how Robin went a little more pop on this song and Justin went more R&B on his album like Robin usually does.

      Why up in arms? Anyone buy Kanye’s Yeezus? In some songs I feel like a dirty, sleezy, dumb, bitch ho only there for his service after listening to it. The soundscape is brilliant and love the fusion of genres and experimental nature of it. I will give it to Kanye for that. But his album is called genius without mention of all his misogynistic language I guess, because he sees the light at the end and goes for the good girl. Lol Kim is a good girl. I’ll go listen to Robin trying to seduce me.

    • claire says:

      Totally. It seems to me like both the men and the women are playing over the top roles, each showing how silly both look in those said roles.

  24. teehee says:

    I dont know, I just have to say I’m finding a lot of contradiction. Yesterday was huge outrage over Serena’s comments and today its “oh lighten up people” – there is no consistency.
    Am I the only one who finds this totally odd?
    Edit: perhaps herein lies my confusion.
    People want both.
    Women want (for some reason, dont ask me) to be viewed as sexy, to be a pair of boobs on legs, but at the same time they want to not be assaults or criticised for it.
    Fair and square, no one should be. But I dont want the object part of it myself, so I jsut cant comprehend why some women are all “you go girl” when they see it, and call others stiff old crows if they dislike seeing that. Im all for womens sexual liberty, but does it have to come in this package?

    • Isa says:

      Maybe because Serena’s comments were about an actual rape victim. And people are interpreting the song in different ways. I know I did.

    • Chordy says:

      I’m also all for women’s sexual liberty! But this is not women’s sexual liberty. This is more of the same -using women as props for men’s sexuality.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      In my opinion, you really can’t compare the two because in the world of art, so much of what is perceived as “offensive” is subject to interpretation. It’s entirely different than a woman, verbatim, defending rapists and blaming a rape victim.

      People were outraged by Serena’s words because, well, she SAID that and she made it VERY clear. Many people here are saying that we never perceived this song as “rapey” until it was pointed out to us, likely because the beat, the melody, the vocals, made the song appealing to our ears. Songs are composed of so many elements beyond JUST the lyrics. Personally, I’m a sucker for a good beat so usually the kind of music that I listen to and I’m attracted to, reflect that. You won’t see me listening to singer-songwriter stuff, folk music, or country because to me, lyrics are secondary to the overall sound. Just my taste…

      • AlmondJoy says:

        @TheOriginalKitten I agree. Music and lyrics can be perceived in many different ways and have various meanings. Sometimes its just fantasy. But in an interview, a person speaks their personal views and feelings. That’s probably why people reacted more harshly to Serena’s comments.

        Also (I hate to say this) Serena does not have a fan following here. I think people are quicker to make excuses for a person that they find attractive or lovable (like Robin). I saw tons of comments about the way Serena looked and how they never liked her, etc

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Yeah, I noticed that too, AlmondJoy-the comments about Serena’s appearance annoyed me to no end. I don’t even know why that was made a part of the discussion by some people.

        She gave us plenty of material to work with just based on those quotes, no need to snark on what she looks like.

    • teehee says:

      I’m not trying to compare the two things, but pointing out that yesterday everyone was up in flames about women being objectified, but today everyone is saying its catchy, fun, and harmless. One or the other… why in one context its suddenly not harmful, but when a tragedy occurs, suddenly its bad and takes the blame? Either it does or it doesnt…

      • teehee says:

        Edit: ok some background on how I came to that first comment:
        its jsut struck me today, that I dont see men walking around in push-up jock straps. I dont see a large portion of men, sporting silicone biceps. Men dont colro their hair and get extensions, they dont wear makeup, none of them have any sexy underwear, they dont have to shave their legs, and the list goes on and on and on—- they dont FLAUNT their sexuality or sexiness, they dont have to be a good looking thing for anyone. I know on the one hand its ‘expected’ of women but on the other, why are women doing this so much? An honest question- why do they need, so badly, to validate their sexuality? Is it maybe the last piece of power they can resort to? Is it the easiest way to feel confidence?
        Im really just trying to look at this from all sides, since reading Serena’s original comment and trying to see where she was coming from.
        I am actually starting to see some merit in what men say – how man get irritated with women who “show themselves off” yet then complain when men look– it IS nonsensical in a way. I maintain my stance that everyone has personal rights that are never to be crossed. But I am just flexing my mind a bit.
        Can anyone follow?

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        I hear that noise but I think a lot of women would argue that they dress for themselves and often, for other women.

        I like wearing a pretty, albeit short, dress because I think it’s cute and I’m flattered when a woman compliments me on it. Sometimes I’m wearing a short silk dress simply because it’s hot as balls out here in the summertime and I don’t want to be sweaty by the time I’ve finished walking to work.
        It’s really just out of necessity and being more comfortable. When it hits 97 with a 70 degree dew point, there are days I wish I could walk around the city in my bikini. Truth be told, I probably would if it was socially acceptable.

        None of it is to get male attention.

        Same with makeup-I like it because I like the way it accentuates my features, has nothing to do with men liking it or not, as most of the men I hang with prefer a woman who DOESN’T wear makeup.

        I think we run into problems when we start analyzing every female behavior within the context of men and how men view us ya know? Not everything is about them and it’s a misguided feminist stance to think it is. It might even work against what we’re trying to accomplish and become a self-imposed trap.

        For instance, on my lunchtime walk, I saw a guy running without his shirt on. Dude was ripped but not once did I think “he’s doing this to get female attention” even though it’s entirely possible that he was. I just thought “dude is hot and sweaty so he took his shirt off to be more comfortable.”

        I think, as feminists, we should extend that same courtesy to each other as well. It’s not always about showing off our feathers to attract a mate ya know?

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        ..do you get what I’m saying here?

        I think, in a way, we only empower men by reinforcing the idea that all the aforementioned behaviors are designed to “lure” them in.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        @TheOriginalKitten, it’s not female behavior or their state of undress that bugs me about this song and video, it’s that our culture does not emphasize men thinking or seeing women as equal or worthy of love and respectful type of playful interaction. The lyrics coupled with fully dressed men ogling naked women portray lighthearted hijinks that suggest women are creatures or animals that exist for men to have their way with in whenever or whatever way is “fun” for them. This is a message we are bombarded with everyday, and for me it’s not okay.

        I agree with you that not everything women do is only to attract male attention. To me, wearing a cute little outfit and makeup is every woman’s prerogative, but it is NOT grounds for being catcalled, verbally harassed with gross comments, or groped in a club or anywhere else. Those are the things I have a problem with and “Blurred Lines” is part of that milieu.

        I vote with my money, and I won’t spend it on music & videos that demean women or make it look A OK to view women literally as tits and ass.

        I do respect your opinion, and I’m happy this question was even raised on Celebitchy.

  25. siobhan says:

    The video does creep me out. The women look very young and are behaving like little girls. Meanwhile Robin Thicke who looks like he is in his early to mid forties keeps saying YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT in the girls ear. Over and over again.

    • V4Real says:

      …and like I stated higher up; Beyonce is telling a guy you be saying no no no no no when it’s really yeah yeah yeah yeah. She tells the guy boy I know you want me, I can see it in your eyes but the guy is telling her no. Does that song get a pass because this time it’s the woman who is the aggressor?

      This is a harmless flirtatious song and that’s all it is.

      You want rapey listen to a lot of rap songs and Nine Inch Nail song called Closer.

      • Chordy says:

        Um. Yes. Reversing gender roles in terms of sexual aggression absolutely does change the tone. When we live in a world where Congress says women raping men is considered an inherent part of female sexuality, tennis stars blame men’s drinking habits on their victimization, and dudes can’t walk down the street without women shouting or grabbing at them, we can readdress the Beyonce issue.

      • Isa says:

        So because it’s not common, it’s okay?

      • siobhan says:

        No, no, no is a song about a guy who pretends not to be interested when his friends are around but acts different when he is alone with her. ‘ everytime I see you with your boys you pretend as if you don’t want me. When you get home you call me on the phone and tell me how much you care.’

      • Chordy says:

        @Isa – obviously sexually assaulting people is not okay. I said it changes the tone when it’s a woman being sexual, as in, it’s going to read less rapey. Plus, what Siobhan said. The song isn’t even about her forcing herself on him, it’s about getting him to acknowledge her beyond her sex with him.

      • Isa says:

        @chordy- so what you’re saying is, if “blurred lines” were sung by a woman it would be less rapey?

      • Chordy says:

        @Isa – Blurred Lines can’t be translated directly into a song sung by a woman, as it is pretty specifically gendered to our current social structure. You could tweak it, but the tweaks that would feminize it would also remove a lot of the aggression since our society says men get all the agency when it comes to sexual dynamics. A woman expressing sexual desire on her own terms (and I highlight on her own terms) is still subversive. Heck, outside of queer communities, we can’t even figure out what sexuality on a woman’s terms even looks like! (see: all debates on whether or not Beyonce is feminist) I’m not saying women should start acting sexually aggressive at the expense of men’s sexual agency. That’s not solving the problem, it’s just re-shaping it. I’m saying that men’s sexual aggression and women’s sexual aggression tend to read differently in lyrics because they don’t exist in a vacuum. They exist in a world with messed up messaging on gender and sexuality.

      • Isa says:

        Okay I see what you’re saying now. But I do think this song could be song by a woman. “You’re a good boy…” It’s popular because of the beat anyway.

      • V4Real says:

        So basically what you guys are saying is that women can get a pass at being aggressive or violent towards men because it’s not common. Your trying to defend Beyonce’s lyrics. What about her lyrics in Naughty Girl. She’s saying tonight I’ll be a naughty girl, I’m calling all my girls, we’re gonna turn this party out. I know you want my body. So it’s ok for her to tease men by saying I know you want my body but Robin is teasing the girl in his lyrics by saying I know you want it and he’s rapey. Is it ok for African Americans to be racist against White people because, you know, it’s not that common. Is it ok for a wife to constantly hit her husband who never hits her back because it’s not that common. Is it ok for a woman to rape a man because (and it has happened)it’s not that common?

        If you actually understood the lyrics Robin is actually talking about where do you draw the line between good girl/ bad girl and why is there a line. Why can’t you just be who you are. He’s saying he hate those blurred lines. Does she want to be domesticated with papers or does she want to be liberated to do what she wants to do. He’s saying the man is not your maker and you don’t have to pretend to be something you’re not to please one. Hence the line I know you’re not plastic. People keep pointing out that he repeats the line I know you want it over and over but miss the line that comes after when he says the way you grab me; must mean you wanna get nasty. So apparanetly the girl is being aggressive towards him as well.

        BTW Chordy, there is no misinterpretation in any of Lil Kim’s lyrics.

      • Chordy says:

        I didn’t basically say any of that. Re-read.

    • V4Real says:

      @Chordy If you notice the top part of my post is not addressed directly to anyone. I just talked about some of the points that were mentioned by different posters on this thread. The bottom part was addressed to you and I made that clear by saying BTW Chordy and this was in reference to this:

      “I’m saying that men’s sexual aggression and women’s sexual aggression tend to read differently in lyrics because they don’t exist in a vacuum. They exist in a world with messed up messaging on gender and sexuality.

      Even in a world of messed up messaging on gender and sexualtiy, no one will read Lil’ Kim’s lyrics differently. They know exactly what she means.

  26. Jen says:

    My read of it is that a man is telling his new lady-partner she should feel free to get more ‘wild’ in bed, because her past partner was too tame and he can sense she wants to be more experimental.

    But I’m an intimacy columnist, so I always like to think sex-positive things!

  27. aenflex says:

    It’s a great song. The over reaction is silly, IMO. Like, there aren’t other things nearly as bad? WTF? Teen mom is more offensive than this. Courtney Stodden.
    It’s sexual expression. Those models were well paid. No one was injured. Heck, even the animals were fake.

  28. Vine says:

    Am I crazy or does this song sound SOOO much like Give it Up by Marvin Gaye?

    Robin Thicke looks way too much like his father for me to ever find him attractive.

  29. Jade says:

    Huh? The lyrics “I know you want it” are in many songs. To me: It doesn’t sound rapey. I still prefer Robin Thicke than JT. But I don’t like the song and the video is crap. Both versions. Gotta say outside of this context, the brunette has nice boobs.

    I wish Thicke would do a funny video with no nudity/semi clad girls. Just wanna see that side of him.

  30. G says:

    And here I was thinking it was about him taking a “good girl” (wife) cheating on her husband.

  31. Dani says:

    Anyone who listens to Robin Thicke knows majority of his music is about sex and women, it’s not a secret. The song is more about getting a girl to leave with him instead of the guy she came with (like someone else said). They mention another guy multiple times, ‘Ok now he was close, tried to domesticate you.’ The words aren’t really all that bad, especially when you compare it to things that Lil Wayne raps about, yet no one is screaming rape. Also, what’s the issue with these girls? THEY put themselves in that video, they went out and auditioned at got paid to be half naked, why is everyone freaking out? They’re objectifying themselves.

    • Samigirl says:

      Not to mention…ok, go to any club. The girls are wearing very little clothing. Skirts so short you can practically see labia. MAYBE they are wearing panties, maybe not. Lots of cleavage. The guys are fully dressed. Nobody is out talking about how THAT is creepy. And, like you said, RT is about sex. His wife knows it. A reporter once asked her “Robin’s music is often called baby making music…how do you feel about that?” Her reply? “Well, we do have a baby.” She knows what’s up, and gave him permission. People need to get their panties out of a twist.

      • Dani says:

        Exactly!! These girls dress themselves when they go out, no guy is standing there saying wear this tiny skirt with this non existent tops. Video girls don’t need pity or sympathy, they willingly do it. Just like the girls that hang out at basketball games. I personally think RT is an amazing artist, his voice is incomparable.

  32. Killy says:

    My two cents: the video is creepy and objectifying, the song is (to me) about a man trying to convince a woman into leaving her man. (blurred lines=what is cheating and what is not). :-)

    Video=blehrgh
    Song=not rapey, but fun and catchy

  33. Chordy says:

    People get very all or nothing when it comes to topics like this. The song is catchy, fun to dance to, but the lyrics do give me pause (he calls her a bitch like 10 times), and the video makes me want to smack all their heads together. Things can be both entertaining and problematic. The song and video are not remotely outside what’s excepted by the mainstream, but that doesn’t mean we can’t point out that the mainstream doesn’t exactly present men and women as sexual or social equals.

    • MaiGirl says:

      Agree completely, Chordy, which is why these debates get muddled. I hate the video because the nudity is so expected and the women are acting too moronic for me to see the “humor”. Also, if everyone was half-naked, I’d be less offended, but naked or half-naked woman plus fully-clothed man is done far too often in print and video, and I’m spent. However, it is a catchy song (with kinda disrespectful, rapey lyrics–not happy with the bitch(es) either), but is certainly not the most offensive example of this type of song. I still think people who have trouble with the messages/images have a valid point, even if this isn’t the worst and the women were well-paid.

      • Chordy says:

        I also think there’s a difference between the context of the song and the context of the song paired with the video. If you’re picturing 2 people of relatively equal agency, it’s very different. A guy whispering “you know you want it” into the ear of a woman who is into it is hot! A 40-year-old man in a suit whispering it into the ear of a very young woman styled to look like a teenager in her panties (or less) is GROSS. Of course, he’s going for a Terry Richardon vibe, so he could be singing “bah bah black sheep” and it would read rapey.

    • V4Real says:

      @Chordy you said he calls her a bitch like 10 times but from what perspective was he saying it? Was he being callous or was it meant as a term of endearment.

      He called her a bad bitch meaning she’s hot and pretty damn awesome. Sorry if that offends you but that is actually slang talk. Rihanna called herself the hottest bitch in heels in her So Hard Song. Beyonce is saying Bow Down Bitches but Bitch is supposed to be a good thing as described by her. So I’m with Robin on this. Where do you draw the line? When is it not okay for women to say such things either.

      • Chordy says:

        Paula Deen also said she doesn’t use the n-word in a hurtful way, but according to whom? The one that can’t be degraded by that word? My feeling is that when the power dynamics of a society are imbalanced, those in positions of greater social privilege should avoid using words that degrade groups of lesser privilege. That’s why Beyonce saying “bitches” is not going to feel as degrading as when a man says it. Will the world end if a man says “bitch?” No obviously that happens regularly. I just find it tacky and it makes the man look like an idiot. Especially when he’s draping himself in barely legal girl bodies while he does it.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        There are only 3 times the word “bitch” is used, and two of the times it is by T.I.

        Use #1 – “What do we need steam for
        You the hottest bitch in this place”

        Use #2 – (TI) “Yeah, had a bitch, but she ain’t bad as you, So hit me up when you passing through”

        Use #3 – (TI) “In a hundred years not dare would I Pull a Pharcyde bitch, you’re passin’ me by”

        (Passin Me By is a song by Pharcyde that is about a love sick guy “i did not really pursue my little princess with persistance; And I was so low-key that she was unaware of my existance.”)

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Totally lurking here but “Passin Me By” is an awesome song!

        I loved Bizarre Ride II

      • V4Real says:

        But Chordy step out of the music world for a moment and ask yourself who calls women bitches more so than men; answer is other women. Men usually don’t refer to women as sluts (they use the other word) that term is mostly used by women. So we can’t justify it by saying because men comes from a place of power it’s more defensive and demeaning. It’s time to stop making excuses for both sexes.

        As for Paula Dean this is when you seperate entertainment from reality; she was not using the N-Word because she was rapping on a song with Snoop Dogg, she was referring to her staff. That’s a big difference from an artist using the word bitch and sexual innuendos in a song only meant to entertain. I highly doubt that Thicke is going around in reality calling his staff bitches. Thicke is not even the one who said that word. Also like I stated up post read the entire lyrics to the song before you pass judgement. I know you want it was follwed by the way you grab me, must wanna get nasty. Apparently the male and female was playing off of each other. She was grabbing him in a way that suggested that she wanted him but trying to play it off that she’s a good girl.

      • Joblow says:

        V4 it seems like you justifying the offensive music by saying all R & B is like that. Yeah well R & B is crap!

      • V4Real says:

        @joblow well if all R&B is crap guess what no one is forcing you to listen to it; simple as that.

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      @ V4Real: Straight from the horse’s mouth -

      Robin Thicke: We tried to do everything that was taboo. Bestiality, drug injections, and everything that is completely derogatory towards women. Because all three of us are happily married with children, we were like, “We’re the perfect guys to make fun of this.” People say, “Hey, do you think this is degrading to women?” I’m like, “Of course it is. What a pleasure it is to degrade a woman. I’ve never gotten to do that before. I’ve always respected women.” So we just wanted to turn it over on its head and make people go, “Women and their bodies are beautiful. Men are always gonna want to follow them around!” – http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2013/05/robin-thicke-interview-blurred-lines-music-video-collaborating-with-2-chainz-and-kendrick-lamar-mercy.html

      So these musicians make a song & video to “have fun” with the idea that it’s funny for men to leer, to talk to women offensively, and to follow women around. In fact, in the above GQ interview, Thicke says their song came from the idea “Him and I would go back and forth where I’d sing a line and he’d be like, “Hey, hey, hey!” We started acting like we were two old men on a porch hollering at girls like, “Hey, where you going, girl? Come over here!”

      THIS is what Thicke is going around in reality and actually saying! The Steubenville rapists said they thought it would be “fun” to make a video too. IMO, “Blurred Lines” both video & lyrics objectifies women and does not get a pass as satire from me. Shit talking and then saying “just kidding” is an age old way of saying to women to lighten up and take a joke.

      Bottom line, these offensive attitudes and “playful” ideas all are part and parcel of rape culture.

      • V4Real says:

        Sloan yes I read that you’re not showing me anything I haven’t already read. But funny how you leave out the part where he says blurred lines is about crossing the line between good girl/bad girl.

        He’s saying he gets to degrade women in the song because it’s stepping out of the norm for him. Does he mean it; no.
        You guys really need to stop comparing these lyrics to rape . Why don’t you read the lyrics and understand them before you jumped to that conclusion. This song is in noway implying that he wants to force himself on a woman. You guys tend to talk about the parts that only helps you with your argument. Read the lyric after he says I know you want it. The girl he was talking about was grabbing him in a suggestive manner. Also how do you guys know the girls in this video aren’ t strippers or nude models who fo this for a living.
        Everyone who is applying the indication of rape should be ashamed of themselves. Stop throwing that word around so loosely.
        By the way I have heard worse in rap, metal and r&b. It’s music that’s all it is. Drake talks about street cred and being a thug. Guess what he’s not, he grew up in a middle class home in Canada and got his start on Degrassi High.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        No one that I know of is comparing Blurred Lines to rape. What we are answering is the question “Is Robin Thicke’s summer hit song & video ‘Blurred Lines’ kind of ‘rapey’?”. My answer is YES because the song lyrics and especially the video contribute, IMO, to a rape culture. Rape culture is the concept which links rape and sexual violence to the culture of a society, and in which prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone rape. Rape culture includes objectification of women – the act of disregarding the personal and intellectual abilities and capabilities of a female; and reducing a woman’s worth or role in society to that of an instrument for the sexual pleasure that she can produce in the mind of another.

        I’m not trying to leave off anything when I quote, it’s just that my posts are long enough as it is so I post a link for anyone to read it in it’s entirety. Yes, I have read all the lyrics and watched both video versions, and yes, there is worse, but ‘Blurred’ crosses my line.

      • V4Real says:

        So you are implying it’s about rape come on it’s not. I’ll say it again don’t judge a song unless you know the meaning which has been stated over and over on this post. What about the line when he says “the way you grab me must wanna get nasty”. The girl is touching him in a way that’s sexual and he’s teasing her by saying I know you want it. It’s a harmless song. Nothing rapey about it. Lil Wayne has a song out now called “Long as my bitches love me and I don’t hear any popular media outlet talking about that song; I wonder why.

      • mi says:

        V4Real – there’s a difference between a song being about rape and a song being rapey/part of rape culture. This song and video are definitely rapey, but I dont think many here are saying he is singing about raping someone.

  34. Ann says:

    I mean there have been two stories today about “controversial” music videos, Miley Cyrus and Robin Thicke. Regardless of your musical preference I think we can agree that both videos are extremely self-indulgent (especially the NSFW Thicke video). But I think the difference is that as a woman, the Thicke video makes me a little grossed out whereas Miley’s just made me roll my eyes sometimes. The women were very clearly treated as objects; you are meant to stare at their naked bodies while the guys bro out and enjoy themselves. The song itself seems inoffensive, I highly doubt the intention was “rapey” but I can see how some people would be uncomfortable.

  35. Barbara says:

    Well…I must admit I was distracted from the words by being completely focused on watching Robin move. That man is so sexy

  36. Happy21 says:

    I’d rather listen to him than Justin Timberlake. Liked JT’s earlier stuff but his voice is like nails on a chalkboard these days…

    And the song, didn’t even consider it rapey…

  37. Mandy says:

    I’m not offended by this song. Although I admit that it takes a lot to offend me. It has a catchy beat and it’s fun. Everybody needs to chill out.

    • Liz says:

      Everyone doesn’t need to do anything. Just because you don’t want to question something doesn’t mean other women don’t or shouldn’t. You have the right to consider the song not a big deal, but I hate all the “You all just need to get your panties out of a twist” attempts here to get other women to stop thinking things through.

      Media does influence behavior and should therefore always be critiqued. You can have a different opinion on the Rapey-ness of the song, but it’s really sad when you can’t come up with a defense other than “I like it so shut up!”

  38. Samigirl says:

    Eh, I love the song and it doesn’t creep me out at all. I think he’s just saying she comes off as a good girl and doesn’t want to admit she has a dirty side, but I can see how it would rub some women the wrong way. I love Robin Thicke, and JT doesn’t even deserve the be considered on his level. I jam this song constantly…my husband is getting sick of it, haha.

  39. ray says:

    the only thing offensive about this video is the constant hastagging on the screen.
    also i think nailed the terry richardson-esque video, though he isnt quite terry creepy, just that sleazy(ish) guy that tries to hit on you in a club level of creep. just my opinion.

  40. jessiesgirl says:

    Hmmm…I thought the song was superficially about hooking up, but really about it being OK (not giving up her good girl rep) if she does some of his coke aka Blurred Lines (you know you want it).

  41. diva says:

    I love Robin and Justin. Robin is more r&b and can’t dance to save his life lol. Justin got the dancing skills and reigns over pop music. Both are very talented. I didn’t think the lyrics are “rapey”. It seemed more tongue in cheek and flirty. I love this song and glad people are posting attention to Robin music. Pharrell is amazing too.

  42. celebgossipgirl says:

    Who cares what the lyrics are – those 3 men are the sexiest things alive – and now who’s being objectified?! ;)

      • V4Real says:

        Who was being objectified in Magic Mike :)

        Is it being objectified if you choose to do the video. I highly doubt any of these women were forced to do that video.

      • Chordy says:

        Do you have a Chordy hate-on today or what? Objectification means reducing someone to an object, not simply finding them sexy. Magic Mike is actually a great starting point for a discussion about where appreciation stops and objectification begins. First of all, Magic Mike isn’t inherently objectifying in how it exists as a film, because the film gives full personhood to the strippers. It’s a man’s story. In fact, women exist to react to the men. However, stripping…that’s also open for debate. There’s also the part where, culturally speaking, (because none of these things exist without cultural baggage) the male vs female dynamic in the subject/object relationship in today’s sexual politics comes into play. How many times do you hear “men are visual, women are emotional.” The existence of movies like Magic Mike turn that notion on its head, therefore making it subversive. Perhaps if we lived in a world where both genders could be equally appreciated for their physical without voiding their personhood, then these types of debates wouldn’t even be necessary.

      • V4Real says:

        It has nothing to do with hate because I don’t hate anyone. I just didn’t agree with everything you were saying and decided to respond to it.

        But how did I know you would defend Magic Mike?

        As for the girls in this video you are saying that they were being objectified, explain how. Do you know for sure that Thicke’s intentions were to objectify these women or is that just your interpretation of the video because you find it offensive? If I’m a woman and I decide to do porn becasue that’s what I want to do am I being objectified and exploited becasue i chose to do porn. If it’s their decision to display themselves in such a manner why do you have a problem with it.

        If you are talking about women in general being objectified I can understand that. But don’t think that you are out here speaking for every woman because not all women feel the way you do. Speak out for women who have been kidnapped and forced into the sex traffiking ring; speak out for women who are being abused or sexually harrased on their job. Don’t worry about the women in this video, they had a choice.

      • Lexa says:

        @V4Real

        You seem to forget that there is no such thing as “free will”. We all act the way society expects us to act. We are not free. If a women decides to go into porn, she probably has a history of violence and abuse. Maybe she confuses sex with love because she never experienced it. Maybe she thinks “that is what everybody does”. Maybe even the girls in the video think “everybody gets naked, so no problem”. But you lack to ask, why do these women think this way? The answer: because we live in society where women are constantly degraded and objectified. We think that is normal, and all your comments on this site show how far we already are in our perception.
        For me, it’s not okay and we need to stop arguing: but it was her free will and she was paid well. That doesnt stop these women from feeling like shit. Nobody can tell me, that this objectification is not damaging to the mind and soul.

      • V4Real says:

        @Lexa shame on you. You talk about there is no such thing as free will and if women go into porn it’s because they were abused or have daddy issues. The very same people that made those claims are the very same people you say are degrading and objecting women (men). These girls had a choice; no one made them do it.

        News flash all girls that go into porn or become strippers do not always have the daddy issue syndrome. Most of them do it because it’s a quick way to make a buck. It’s funny how on one hand you are defending women by saying that this song and perhaps other similar music is objecting and degrading to women yet on the other hand turn around and accuse all women who go into the sex industry as damaged. I have known strippers personally that have come from good loving homes. Also most of the foreign girls who danced did so because it was hard to find work being that they didn’t have working papers. Some girls did it to supplement their income. Believe it or not some were in school and using the money to pay for it.

        So here’s what’s not ok, you making negative assumptions about a particular group of women. People with your way of thinking is also a part of the problem.

      • Me2 says:

        It really annoys me when people say that ‘women choose to be strippers/prostitutes/glamour models etc’. Do they? If they have learnt from very early on that their value is in being attractive (little princess! fairy ballerina!), and to worship celebrities, whose main value is being attractive, then funnily enough these women do not feel that they have anything to offer but their bodies.

        And this is where people cry out ‘hey! I was into princesses when I was little and I’m fine!’, are you really? Or do you still place more value in your physical appearance and sex appeal than in, say, your education, your passions and your worth as an individual?

  43. Nerd Alert says:

    I’m not offended by the song, but I think I am the only one in the boards today who doesn’t like it. I mean, it’s cute and catchy but I don’t find it infectious or…ahhh…good at all.

    The Daft Punk song on the other hand? Been loving that for weeks. Totally already on my workout playlist.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      *high fives*

      The new Daft Punk is the first full album I’ve bought in YEARS.
      I usually just download on a single-song basis :)

      • Nerd Alert says:

        *high fives* :D

        I’m the same way! Prior to this month, I have only bought one song at a time since like ‘Nam. I can listen to that Daft Punk album the whole way through two or three times without skipping a track before I have to switch, which says a lot since I have music ADD.

        But then I got a sweet bonus at work and went a little crazy…I bought the Alt-J album and the new Queens of the Stone Age album after streaming it online off their website free. It’s amazing if you already like their style…and Alt-J has some bizarrely beautiful music. I got my fix!

  44. littlestar says:

    Wow, the Daft Punk song is really really good! I want to jump up from my work desk and start dancing. Seriously.

  45. rudy says:

    I can’t help it. I love this song, Blurred LInes. I did not know who Robin Thicke was when I first heard the song. The video is sexist, so what? so is 99.9% of rap videos.

  46. MsGoblin says:

    Product placement much?

    • rudy says:

      R U talkin’ to me?

      I mean seriously, product placement? I’m a 56 year old artist mother who happens to like all different kinds of music. I didn’t mean to imply that I LIKE that so many rap songs are sexist. I don’t. I don’t like that Degas was an abuser but I’ve learned to tolerate that and still love his pastels.

      Maybe Thicke is an a-hole. IDK and I don’t care. I just like that song. It’s the video that is sexist and exploitive btw.

  47. smitten says:

    This song is not about rape or picking up a woman in a club actually. In an interview he said him and Pharrell were making it like they were 2 old men on a porch cat calling at woman (hence the hey hey hey part). If you listen to it and watch the video from that perspective it makes more sense.

  48. Gg says:

    I hate to sound like my mom but what in Gods name is going on here???? Every music video today is one big orgy and most pop lyrics reduce women down to a p***y. These mega studios must be run by sociopathic perverts!

  49. vicky says:

    OK people I just have to stay I didn’t catch the rapey vibe at first, although I thought the video immature and pointless. The artists come off as immature douches who just want to see boobs and the chicks as dumbass girls with low self-esteem #rapeculture. But as a woman who was in a relationship with a controling jerk who sucked the life out of me for two years I found the song to be an anthem of sorts. The lyrics in the chorus especially rang true for me:
    OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
    But you’re an animal, baby it’s in your nature
    Just let me liberate you
    Hey, hey, hey
    You don’t need no papers
    Hey, hey, hey
    That man is not your maker
    Hey, hey, hey

    It just reminded me that I’m free to be who I want, sleep with who I want and the hot guy in the club is down to help me twerk it out. Thats all…
    DAMN ART all open to interpretation an shit!

  50. Angela T says:

    This song always gets stuck in my head, I think it’s just a good summer song

  51. vv says:

    I didn’t like the song, the video, the lyrics. Nothing. I don’t even find it catchy more ‘try hard’.

    Daft Punk however can do no wrong in my world. Woo.

  52. ParisPucker says:

    Robin is such a douche. And any man who feels this comfortable objectifying women in such a sleazy way has gots to have a small dinky. I am embarrassed for these women…this is going to catch up with them later. There is NOTHING artistic or ‘in celebration’ of women in this video (…as opposed to Chris Isaak’s ‘wicked game’ video, for example). The lyrics are vapid, and they kind of look like losers in this video…which is disappointing cuz i *love* Pharell! Sigh.

  53. MissM says:

    I was randomly dragged to the NKOTB tour last week and despite hating them as a child, I loved the show– partly because they kept taking their clothes off. I actually thought, “it’s about time we’re seeing a male singer objectified.”

    “Blurred Lines” is on my playlist every time I workout. It’s sexy and the video is a little over the top, but it’s not rapey– I just wish there were more videos with naked men in them. I’m all about equality.

  54. Shannon says:

    Robin could sing anything he wants, I wouldn’t care …dude is f*cking sexy as hell (those blue eyes OMG) and he has a great voice. Lets not sit here and pick apart a pop song please.

    • Bijlee says:

      This is a problematic reason for letting Robin Thicke do anything. I love his music too and think he’s sexy, but it doesn’t give him a pass for everything.

      • Shannon says:

        Is the song REALLY that bad?? To me it’s about a good girl being bad and being sexually liberated. I don’t hear a “rape” song when I really pay attention to the lyrics. It’s whatever. It’s a pop song. It honestly shouldn’t be taken soooooo seriously.

      • Bijlee says:

        @shannon no i LOVE the song. But even I thought it sounded kinda rapey when I really listened to the lyrics…I still love it. But your whole thing just reminded me of girls on the internet that say all that “I would let Chris brown beat me etc.” I know it’s not the same as what you’re saying, but that’s where my mind jumped. Sorry.

      • Shannon says:

        Well if Robin Thicke was singing about beating a woman or actually did beat a woman that would be different. I guess there are exceptions to everything. I wouldn’t think he was sexy if he did such a thing. But singing about a good girl being bad and wanting to sexually free her isn’t really upsetting to me. I think people are outraged for no reason. I don’t personally think the song has rape references in it, but everyone has the right to their opinion.

      • Liz says:

        @Shannon, people aren’t outraged “For no reason.” Posters above have explained many valid reasons for their “outrage” in great detail. If you don’t care to read any of them, that’s your choice. Please don’t insult those who do want to think about these issues by claiming they have no reasons just because you are too intellectually lazy to consider them.

      • Shannon says:

        Liz: I’m not “too intellectually lazy” to consider other people’s opinions. And who have I insulted? Just because I disagree that the song has rape reference? Have I come out and truly insulted anyone?? I personally think people are taking a pop song wayyyyyy too seriously.

        To me you are the one INSULTING by saying I’m too intellectually lazy to read or consider other opinions. And BTW I’ve read almost EVERY f-ing post in this thread. I find what others have to say very interesting. Believe it or not.

      • Shannon says:

        …….also Liz if you would re-read the quote of mine you are referencing, you would see I say “……but people have a right to their own opinion” after I say I think people are outraged for no reason. But I’m soooooooooo insulting, right??? Pffffffff PLEASE.

    • T says:

      Misogyny does not become not misogyny just because it’s in a song. Just because “every other pop song out there does it” doesn’t justify a thing.

      • Shannon says:

        Ok whatever!!!! Pick apart the song and have your feelings on it. Again, its a pop song with a great beat. I don’t think the artists were hoping people would sit and anylyze every verse and word. It ain’t that f*cking deep people!!! While you’re picking apart the song, I’ll be over here dancing to it.

  55. Shaishai says:

    Am I the only one who didn’t find the naked ladies remotely sexy? Not judging, they just looked awkward to me.
    Like a naked version of that drunk silly girl in every club that thinks she’s a great dancer when all she’s doing is swinging her hair round, pouting and waving her hands like a loon.

  56. Claire says:

    I can’t say the video makes me feel that comfortable. I kinda get the clothed version, but the naked one rubs me up the wrong way. ‘Blurred Lines’ played and directly afterwards Macklemore’s ‘Can’t Hold Us’ came on. It was so refreshing to see a video which was interesting to watch and not one semi naked lady in sight. God I must be getting old!

  57. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Video aside, may we talk about this expression, “rapey”? It really makes me cringe. I know NONE of you are making light of rape…I just don’t like it. Am I being hypersensitive? A prude? How do you feel about it?

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      The word “rapey” is ugly, and no, you are not hyper sensitive to feel gross reading it. For me, it is a term that is upsetting to read because it unfortunately describes real, cringe worthy words and behavior.

    • Elle (the original or #2?) says:

      Thank you. I had to do a Ctrl + F to skip through the comments and see if anyone else mentioned this. Much more bothered by making that word cutesy than I am by these song lyrics (and not for nothing, the word has been used 36 times on this page so far).

  58. Leigh says:

    Look how much you’re all talking about it.
    Success.

  59. xxx says:

    I’m torn on this song. I love to bop to it, it’s fun, it’s catchy, and it has come along at a time when there is a dearth of good pop music.

    HOWEVER! The lyrics are awful.

    “One thing I ask of you
    Lemme be the one you back that ass up to
    From Malibu to Paris boo
    Had a bitch, but she ain’t bad as you
    So, hit me up when you pass through
    I’ll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two.”

    The whole “I know you want it” thing pisses me off, as does the concept of a blurred line. There is only one line and that it delineated by “yes” and “no” queues. “No” does not mean “yes” and this kind of song gives young guys the impression that girls who say “no” but seem sexy actually want their ass torn in two.

    This is even reinforced in the raunchier clip when a naked, provocative girl has a teeny tiny “stop” sign perched on her bum and she makes a silly “oh” face.

    As someone who lost my virginity as a teenager when my new boyfriend date-raped me despite me saying “no” many, many times; and as someone who has seen research done in schools and universities that shows how many kids don’t understand the rules of consent; lyrics and content like this bother me.

    So there you go. Give me this song with different lyrics and a different video clip and I’d be a happy girl!

  60. K-MAC says:

    UGH! It is NOT rapey! It is a tongue and cheek song. It’s catchy. The video is brainless. The girls have great bodies. Robin Thicke drummed up a whole lot of attention for a song that JT only wished he could have written.

    My only grip is this could have been a BRILLIANT video because the song is the summer hit.

    Yes, Robin Thicke has a big d*ck and it’s called his mouth.

  61. Jarredsgirl says:

    This song is DUMB, or should I say, thick!

    Robin reminds me of a school teacher. Pharell dances like a moron.

    I don’t find it catchy, it’s boring.
    And I don’t see any naked girls. They are scantly clad, but not naked.

    I can see why everybody is saying it’s rapey, the whole “stop pretending you don’t want it” thing, so it’s a legitimate concern. The song in itself is a blurred line.

  62. Jarredsgirl says:

    UPDATE: Just noticed that there is another video, with naked girls. Oops!

    I’m glad it was clairfied above that they wrote from the perspective of old men sitting on a porch, cos that totally makes sense.

  63. Anna says:

    If anything, you should compare JT to Robin. Robin was doing this kind of singing style wayyy before JT. JT was still doing Nsync while Robin was doing R&B

  64. jellyfish says:

    Ew Robin Thicke looks like the kind of guy who would totally get a young girl drunk and then take advantage of her. Just look at his creepy face!

  65. T says:

    I’m seriously alarmed at how people, who claim themselves as feminists, really think “lighten up, he’s hot, whatever” is a justification to anything. Wow.

  66. Me2 says:

    A bit off topic, but the line ‘Tried to domesticate you/But you’re an animal’ is stupid – animals are generally the ones being domesticated! So if you’re an animal then yeah, be domesticated!

  67. Side-Eye says:

    I swear you people will overanalyze and get offended by anything. Get over yourselves, it’s a damn song about picking chicks up at the club.

  68. sarah says:

    What would Susan B. Anthony say?