Claire Danes covers the new issue of Glamour, as I covered yesterday. This is “Part 2” of our coverage, because I came across these additional quotes from Claire’s interview hours after I had written up the first post, and I thought these quotes were worth discussing. Claire talks about feminism and self-identifying as a feminist and the inequities of Hollywood. I agree with her, for what it’s worth, but I realize that many of you will think that she should turn in her Feminist Card after she ran off with Billy Crudup when he was involved with a very pregnant Mary-Louise Parker. Can one still be a feminist and make a terrible relationship/sex mistake?
Claire’s feminism: “I am a feminist. And I’m so glad that [Girls creator and star] Lena Dunham exists, because she is one too, and she’s quite vocal about it. Yes, women have more freedom and more influence than ever, but it’s hardly equal. It’s just not. It’s really f–king crazy. I’m sorry I’m cursing. But it’s wild that women are underrepresented [in Hollywood]. I have real anxiety about directing, and that’s something to question and challenge and correct.”
On her “cry face”: “I think people are made uncomfortable by uncensored expressions of emotion. But, you know, that’s my job. I don’t have those fears. I really have never been concerned about being beautiful on-screen. That’s just not my jam. I’m concerned about it if I’m playing a beautiful character. But it’s not relevant for Carrie. I don’t need to worry about that, and I think that’s really great. I love sitting in the makeup trailer and getting my makeup done in 15 minutes as opposed to an hour and a half.”
As I said, I’m fine with her feminism. I like that she acknowledges that women do have a lot of power and influence right now… but that it’s still not equal. I think Claire is more of a “Lean In” feminist, right? Which means that we can’t judge her feminism against her choices in her personal life? Again, can one be a feminist in one’s career and make a douchebag relationship choice in your 20s? I think you can.
Interestingly enough, the part that really, really annoys me is her answer to the “cry face” question. She sounds incredibly defensive and no, we’re not teasing her because all of us are cold, emotionless statues who can’t deal with our feelings. We tease Claire about her cry-faces because she’s an ugly crier and it’s funny. Imperfections are wonderful, Claire. You’re enormously talented and very pretty, but when you cry, many of us giggle because your cry faces are hilarious. Keanu handled his Sad Keanu meme with humor and grace, you should try that.
Photos courtesy of Glamour.
There are no lies here.
It surprises me how many women associate feminism with hating men when for me it’s always been about choice and equality. You can love men and be a feminist at the same time.
+100000000000000000000
Yup!!!!! +10000000000000000
YASSSS!!
Also, at the risk of sounding elitest or Gwyneth-y, ladies, I highly recommend you read “Second Sex” by Simone de Beauvoir. It is a ginormous book, but it basically asks us why we have given power over so we are the second place gender, and why don’t we help other women more. It changed my point of view dramatically, and I feel that the books gives you a good sense of what feminism truly embodies. It is not man-bashing! Okay, back to snark! *sips organic fair-trade unicorn tears out of crystal shot glass ordered through GOOP*
Count me in as a feminist who loves men-75% of my friends are guys.
I also detect a bit of a contradiction in a lot of the comments here. I always hear women repeating the refrain that feminism doesn’t mean automatically defending another woman’s bad behavior just because we both have vaginas (I agree with this BTW) so given that, then there really is no macro “sisterhood”. So then why should a woman feel loyalty or connection to the wife of a married man, whom she doesn’t know at all? Because they both have vaginas?
Ideally, people don’t cheat because they have respect for other PEOPLE (both genders), it’s not really a feminist issue to me, more of an ethical/moral issue.
It’s because we, The Women, are smarter than The Men, so when one of us hooks up with a guy she knows from the very start of their relationship to be an A-Grade, lying, cheating A-hole of Goatse proportions it rather lets the side down…
😉
I agree. I always laugh at comments about cheating on here where they blame the husband, but really go after the other woman saying women need to stick together, we don’t do that to other women. What a joke. I see women on here tearing down other women daily. I see from grade school on bitchiness, catiness from females to one another. I have worked in all female offices where we were all in our twenties, thirties, and the drama and camps against each other. There is no big sisterhood. I hold the man I married, who made a vow to me responsible and who I would turn my attention to, not some random woman who listened to his bullshit lines as an excuse to carry on her affair. This is a hypothetical. I would ring him by his neck. LOL Does that excuse the woman? Hell, no. I would hate her. But this whole women don’t do that to other women thing just seems hollow when women do catty, mean things to other women all the time.
Now for those women betrayed by a friend and her husband, I just can’t imagine and that would bring me to my knees, double betrayal. So a different story and do hold both accountable to a higher level. But your husband if he cheats is the one that gets in the bed with you every night, the one you take care of on a daily basis, who is carrying on a secret life behind your back. That is the person I care about in the betrayal and blame,, because the affair can’t happen if he doesn’t let it. The affair can’t continue, no matter how many calls (LeAnn anyone), if he shuts it down. The affair can’t continue if he doesn’t make his secret phone calls leading on a woman to continue the affair, telling her he loves her, blah, blah, giving her his reasons for cheating and boy is she hanging her hat on them hoping he leaves, The woman doesn’t know me. The one who said his vows to me is the one that shouldn’t be doing this to me.
I would never cheat with a married man for many reasons, and a very big reason is I am not going to be some sidepiece to a guy while he runs home to his family. It just seems gross to me. I think once you have children you look at marriage differently and what it would do to a family to be part of a breakup. I think before that many woman don’t see that. Although, many desperate women unhappy in their marriages want a jumpoff to leave, and so have affairs with other married people. What a mess it all is. I guess since I have worked for years in divorce court, I have seen and heard it all.
@ Tapioca-Ha! +1,000,000
@Jayna- “That is the person I care about in the betrayal and blame, because the affair can’t happen if he doesn’t let it”
So much word to this.
I think part of the reason why some women think that feminism means man-bashing is partially because of exposure to anti-feminist propaganda in our society, and partially because there is a bit of Marxism within the movement that makes people uncomfortable.
I am in a complaining mode today, sooooooo, am I the only Homeland watcher who is completely disgusted by Carrie’s completely neurotic and annoying behavior lately? I realize her mental illness is a major theme of the show but come on, the scenes ( SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT) with her watching Brody in his attempts to cross over in to Iran were ridiculous! Her facial contortions, her tears, I mean there is no way I buy that being tolerated on an important mission by other agents involved. Homeland is becoming less believable by the episode.
You arent im practically hatewatching now, her whole hissies and then doing whatever the fck is getting old, grating, Unprofessional, and Unrealistic: No way the CIA would keep around a mentally ill non compliant agent supervising a target she slept with in a mission carrying on yelling and crying.
Another part that pisses me off to no end is that they coulda made Carrie as capable and chill as the dudes there but NO we have this shrill dick crazy girl running amok in DC instead of what coulda been (let’s make no mistake They Reeeeeeaaalllly were painting that Quinn thing like it was about to go down, had Brody turned up a second later they’d be at it in a dinky motel)
Ahahaha. Your whole post made me smile.
If the CIA is anything like this show, God help us all. She is mentally ill, a drinker, emotional wreck and loose. If the CIA allows these types of men and women in their ranks OY! Other countries should be taking notes. Lol.
And make No mistake Id take Her Dick crazy But The Way it Undermines her Job?? The Stupid Decision Making? Sleeping with Superiors (which she did with David) and Targets? Ack NO Homie NO
+1 we are in the UK and an episode behind or might be the same I didn’t want the last one as I am losing the will with that show. It’s just so much CRAZY I can take every week. I get it she has issues but enough and the story line is not very good, it’s time for them to shut it down. I can’t see where it’s going maybe they have a good plan but don’t know.
I hate Claire/Carrie for her crying face because it is annoying having to sit through it every 2 seconds. Like, you’re a CIA agent who has been in the field for almost all of your life – get a grip! There is NO need to cry every 2 seconds. And i get that she’s bipolar, but she is so unstable that i don’t understand why they continue to keep her in the loop and on the job. As Dar Adal said last episode, you mustn’t show that you are panicking. Carrie does a terrible, horrible job of that.
I hate Lena Dunham’s feminism, but that’s just me.
I said practically the same thing. Glad I am not one in those thoughts! Great minds and all.
Claire Danes strikes me as the kind of person thinks she’s a feminist because she wants a woman to get ahead (i.e. herself), no matter who she screws over, not so much as a champion for her entire gender. Lena Dunham too, or her characters wouldn’t be so eminently punchable (not that I would ever support violence against women, obvs.)
But that’s just me being cynical!
+1, That’s my opinion on this too.
Her ugly cry is her bankroll!
I love her comments about feminism, and I sadly still love Homeland even though it’s become a soap opera mess.
A woman can still be a feminist after making a terrible mistake and should be allowed to move on with her life. After all, it’s not like she pulled a Woody Allen or committed a felony…. It’s been years and everyone involved has moved on (Claire was only in her early 20s) and I don’t get how this is even related to that mess. While I think people care too much about that sort of thing anyway (it’s a shitty thing to do, but a lot people do shitty things sometimes and life moves on after a period of time), I also find it crazy that no one ever brings up that Russell Crowe was photographed KStew style with Meg Ryan when Meg was married but Claire’s ten year old affair is still mentioned a lot. It seems like women are always stuck with a permanent scarlet letter and men get away scott free in the eyes of the public.
Why are you excusing bad behavior and generally character (especially since after Billy, again… she cheated, it seems to be a recurring theme).
Somehow other people manage to get through their teens, early 20’s and generally life by having values, and not getting involved with unavailable men or have the grace to end a relationship before getting involved with someone else to avoid cheating, age and being young is not an excuse…
Honestly I dont know her so on a personal level this doesnt affect me, the reason i “care too much” is because of how it reinforces the status quo that its ok in effect to be a shitty person since time will heal everything and life will go on… sure, but I still think people dont forget ( Mary Louise Parker and her child for sure wont….).
In my case Meg, and Russell Crowe belong to the same category. Men should be held accountable just the same, this is not gender but general, people specific behaviors. Nobody should behave like this imo ( of course when the tables turn and they are faced with this, they are usually the most outraged :))
I’m not excusing her bad behavior. I’m saying that I think people should be able to move on with their lives after ten years and there’s never been any sign of her cheating again that I know of. No one has to like her, but bringing it up in unrelated articles seems a bit much to me. Agree to disagree 😉 My main point though was not related to that, but to the fact that I don’t see how an affair at 23 means one can’t be a feminist at 34. That seems like reaching to me. Feminism is acknowledging that men and women are equal and society doesn’t treat them equally.
It’s the cheating when the other was 7 -8 months pregnant I don’t care if he was coming from the heavens and pooed gold it would be no no no. I know it takes 2 he should have known better too. Crowe / Ryan same thing.
No one’s saying that cheating is okay, but we as a society don’t have to act like it’s some unforgivable act, demonize someone for it for life, or subject them to years of bigotry because of it.
Not sure anyone’s bad behavior should be excused.
Just because everyone has moved on does not mean it makes the situation ok now years later.
Danes is no different than all the men and women who have purposefully involved themselves with an attached partner. She doesn’t get a pass from me any more than the rest of the rest of the men and women out there because of her age or the length of time since the incident.
I’m not excusing her bad behavior at all. She made a horrible mistake. It’s the fact that it is unrelated to this story that was my main point. If this was a story about her talking about her views on romantic relationships, then sure. But it’s not’s related to that, so bringing it up does seem like scarlet lettering to me. I don’t see how a woman having an an affair ten years ago in her early 20s means she can’t be feminist in her 30s, or why anyone would relate the two. You don’t have to like her because of her old affair, but saying she can’t be a feminist because of a horrible mistake she made ten years ago seems crazy to me. It’s not like she’s preaching relationship advice.
I’m with Lark. Does having an affair (whether in her 20s or not) mean that Claire Danes did something hurtful to others and generally immoral? Sure. Does that have any impact on whether or not she is a feminist? Of course not.
Feminism is the belief that men and women are equal. Not that all women must behave within the confines of society’s morals, or that there is some kind of “girl code” in place that means that you lose feminist status once you do something that is perceived to be morally repugnant by a group of other feminists. She could sleep with a hundred women’s husbands and still be a feminist. Just like Billy Crudup could cheat on his wife with a hundred different women and not lose his right to equality or to express his belief in equality. One has absolutely no bearing on the other.
I, for one, have always found Claire Danes to be a little smug but I like what she’s saying here. She’s also a fantastic actress, even though I’ve had to ditch Homeland for its sheer absurdity.
I totally understand if the family members involved are still hurt by an affair, but I don’t think society (people who were not affected by the affair) needs to punish a person for years because of it. I don’t excuse cheating, but I don’t think it’s an unforgivable thing and I believe that people can change.
Agree completely with Lark and Mazza666.
And Leila In Wunderland – completely agree with you as well. Very well said, nothing else for me to add :).
Sorry but no. Obviously, it takes two to tango. Billy is the biggest jerk in all of this, however…. any woman, especially in her situation, in Hollywood where it is public knowledge who is dating who, etc. to actually take on the role of the other woman… ugh. I dont know if its the ego trip, absolute lack of empathy, naivity, or what but I can never forgive women for this behavior. There are way more than enough fish in the sea, how could this man be your Mr.Perfect when he treats woman with such little care and consideration… of course I can imagine the outcry if she would happen to be in the same shoes ( which, ultimately happens in most cases, because if its in one’s character to do this once…. it will happen again).
regarding feminism, well… no comment :] in general I disagree with most of the current wave of feminist notions. Everyone cries slut-shaming, however imo its gotten way too politically correct. I don’t consider women empowered by resorting to stripping, p*rn, prostitution even if its out of their own will. They might just be “playing the game” of patriarchy but thats the thing.. they arent forced (the ones who do it out of their own decision I mean). They would have a choice to do ANYTHING, really anything (doctor, engineer, etc). but chose to not change the status quo.. these days in all the liberation ,I swear I’ve seen the naked bodies of actresses and singers more often than my own, while I dont see too many secondary or primary s-x organs of males……………
When a woman thinks that it’s worse for a woman to do something wrong than it is for a man to do that wrong thing, it’s a sign of patriarchal sexism that she has internalized.
As for porn and nudity, those are matters of personal choice left up to the individual. There really isn’t anything wrong with nudity and sex. Our world has just had so many irrational hang-ups about ‘modesty’ and sexuality partially because of religious dogma, partially because of misogyny and sexism, and partially because we live in a word that holds females sexually responsible for males- whether it’s through high schools banning girls from wearing tank-tops and shorts because it “distracts” people who have penises, or if it’s through women being told to dress modestly so they don’t get sexually assaulted.
You may think that objections to slut-shaming are too politically correct, but there are valid reasons why people want this form of bigotry to end. Not only is it repressive and sexist, but it has also lead to a lot of violence against women and girls, and contributed to bullying and suicide among teenage girls.
I also wanted to add that it’s true that we see more skin-baring among female celebrities than males, but on the flipside, our society’s reaction to skin-baring males vs. skin-baring females is VERY different. When it’s a male celebrity topless, in his underwear, or less, people either ignore it, laugh it off, or talk about how hot the guy is. But when it’s a woman, people are all, “Oh she’s being exploited by the heterosexual male, she’s damaged, so sad,” or “trashy pathetic whore” or “she has no self-respect and is A Bad Role Model Corrupting America’s Innocent Maiden Youth.” (Notice how a male celebrity’s status as a role model and a human-being with self-respect is never questioned after he shows skin).
So while sexism is a large part of the reason why we see more female celebrities showing skin than males, that’s not the only reason.
With the exception of the natural pleasures that we humans get from nudity in all it’s forms, a male celebrity would have no reason to feel ’empowered’ by showing skin in our society. Because it’s not the male who is told that the skin he shows the public has some baring on his value or self-respect. The woman is the one who is told that if she wants to be a self-respecting human being of value to society, she has to abstain from nudity and should probably dress modestly.
@Leila – Some of the points you mentioned contributed to my having issue with the religion (Christian, Church of God) my entire family is. My grandfather is a pastor (he had 3 daughters, no sons, & 2 of them married pastors. My mom is the eldest, & didn’t (with my dad or step dad) thankfully). They’re from Alabama, & he’s very old school about things.
It was the way women were expected to act… the way they were looked at in the Bible that caused me to start thinking more independantly. The difference made between men & women was astounding, & I couldn’t understand how *that* could be ‘God’s will’. Men are encouraged to enjoy sexual experiences, but women are held to insane standards that make it shameful. I always argue that God wouldn’t have given us our own feelings & opinions if he/she (whatever) meant for us to function the way the bible dictates in that regard.
I think it’s ridiculous what we’ve made the human body into… Sex is part of life, but not the *only* part of life. Our bodies are so much more than *just* sexual objects. There is no reason anyone should be ashamed of nudity. I completely support women having a *choice* regarding their sexual behaviors. It doesn’t mean I always think it’s the right thing to do, nor that no one is allowed to express that, but not because it makes them a ‘slut’ or ‘disgusting’. It’s just like every other thing in life, an action that can effect you (or others) either positively or negatively…which often relies on one’s moral opinions.
I’m always torn, because I think feminism also means we’re all allowed to voice our opinions, good or bad, from our own unique perspectives. Just because someone has a negative opinion about a woman’s sexual choices doesnt mean it’s ‘slut shaming’, but I don’t really know where the ‘line’ is on that one.
@Hakura: Yeah, in my opinion most organized religion has been a scam used to control, repress, and oppress people, stripping them of their bodily and sexual autonomy- especially women, and people of either sex who are not heterosexual. It’s also been about keeping women submissive to and possessed by men.
You also bring up a good point about the slut-shaming debate. The line between just disagreeing with a female’s sexual choice vs. slut-shaming has to do with motive, word choice, and whether or not any double standard involved. For example: would a person feel just as outraged about a topless male performer thrusting his pelvis on stage as they would be by a scantily-clad female performer shaking her booty on stage, labeling them both as trashy, sexually/emotionally damaged, bad role models devoid of self-respect? If yes, then it’s not slut-shaming, it’s just plain old prudery, which although annoying, isn’t a form of bigotry.
Is there any celebrity who hasn’t talked bout feminism or the word “empower” in 2013? All with cringe-worthy quotes.
I think it would be incredibly refreshing if someone proclaimed themself a “me-ist“.
I’ve never seen the crying face since I don’t have premium cable. Glad I’m not paying for something that everyone has commented on as being annoying.
I don’t find it annoying at all.
In my opinion, Homeland sucks because it went from being a show that was somewhat believable to being a show that is completely ridiculous and soap operatic, not because of Danes’ facial expressions.
Well then I am happy I’m not paying for it on that account. Thanks O’ K.
Yeah I don’t have cable either, kiddo. I don’t need 180 channels of shite that I don’t wanna watch.
But I watched Homeland because my brother got it for me (who knows how) and put it on my hard drive to watch.
But yes, I don’t think it’s worth paying for. Too bad because it started out so great…
People are just now bitching about her cry-face? Did no one else watch My So-Called Life a hundred times?
Anyway, I don’t think she is being defensive. Her cry-face is incredibly unique & she has probably been asked about a billion times by now. It sounds like a pretty rote answer to me
+1
“Can one still be a feminist and make a terrible relationship/sex mistake?”
My opinion: unequivocally YES.
I mean really, is Stevie Nicks not a feminist then? Men don’t get their man card revoked for cheating so why should women?
My only caveat is that women should NEVER use feminism as a way to rationalize cheating, i.e. the pursuit of pleasure as a woman taking precedence over morality.
Also, she looks so gorgeous in that second pic.
I agree on all points. The photo is pretty, but it is such a strange expression. I can’t put my finger on it, something is amiss. It looks a little “crazed”, for lack of a better description.
I agree, Okitt.
I don’t think cheating and feminism are related whatsoever, and this is coming from a card-carrying feminist who’s never cheated (and would never). People often confuse morals with ideals like there’s some blurred line between them. She did an immoral thing, yes, but it was unrelated to her general views on life. I think you’d really have to misunderstand feminism to decide she can’t be one based on what she did.
Perfectly stated, Nerd Alert.
@Kiddo-she seems to do that weird crazed eye thing often. Maybe she’s self-conscious about the shape/size of her eyes? Or maybe that’s just natural expression…?
I agree completely. I’m not on board with feminism being used to excuse cheating or other forms of mistreating others, but the fact that someone has done something wrong doesn’t mean her (or his) feminist card is taken away permanently. If that were the case, I don’t think there’d be many feminists left – there aren’t a lot of perfect, morally blameless humans running around regardless of their philosophical beliefs.
@lunchcoma – “…there aren’t a lot of perfect, morally blameless humans running around regardless of their philosophical beliefs.”
You must have forgotten about Yeezus. >_>
I didn’t realize feminists had to be saints. I’m sure plenty of feminists have had affairs.
Agreed!
“Can one still be a feminist and make a terrible relationship/sex mistake?” yes – because otherwise that implies you can only be a feminist if you are a faultless human being. And as there is no such thing. Feminism isn’t about that at all – men make mistakes, women make mistakes, ‘punish’ both equally!
Exactly. Her morality is completely irrelevant to her feminism.
I don’t understand what a relationship mistake has to do with being a feminist? Feminism isn’t about loving every single person and treating everyone with kid gloves.
It’s about believing that women and men should have equal rights and promoting the rights of women, and helping other women with their voice, profession, aspirations and goals.
It has nothing to do with individual relationships or mistakes that were once made.
I was mean to a woman so I can’t be a feminist? How does that work? That’s like saying I have a dog so I can’t be a vegetarian, no correlation there.
Women’s rights is about doing what you want with yourself and your body, within the boundaries of the law (or at least most laws). If she happened to fall for a douchebag, how does that take away from her beliefs about society in general?
Unless you’re trying to make an argument about “women should respect themselves and not give it out to whoever is there” (a sentiment I feel is anti-feminist) there is no contradiction.
First time poster…hello all, I love reading your comments. Re Claire and Billy, I read a blind item a long time ago that implied Mary-Louise P#arker was actually pregnant from an affair with her personal trainer. I’m not sure why, but I believe its likely, and give Claire and Billy props for not revealing the truth.
Oh look! A another beautiful, wealthy, actress who was BORN into wealth & priledge is carrying on about how tough it is to be a woman in America. *How shocking*
As a woman, I thank my stars every day that I was born here and not countless other countries where unspeakable atrocities-physical and otherwise-are carried out against our fellow sisters on a daily basis, and more often than not, legally.
We live in a place where every single type of (approved) pregnancy prevention is available to us, we need only see a doctor or head to a Planned Parenthood should we not be able to afford private practice. Idk if it’s across the board yet, but myself nor any of my friends have had so much as a co-pay for out monthly BC pills (a hard won result and I am very grateful to the women and men who stood up and worked so hard to make happen). Do we not get equal opportunities as boys to earn a free, public education from the age of 5 straight through college, even private should we choose? (Both of those things alone are ILLEGAL for women and girls in many places throughout the world!) Are we not presented with the opportunity to work as we like throughout our lives here? (The biggest exception being the military, but that is slowly changing.) All that said, I genuinely have no idea what all of this supposed never ending “inequality” that these cosmopolitan woman always speak of is because it has never been my experience or that of anyone else I know. As far as equal pay for equal work (or the argument that “all women unfairly make less everywhere always and forever!”), unless statisticians have gone around and measured/compared the salaries of every.single. man and woman in every company in the country who have 1. Been at the company the same amount of time. 2. Put the exact same amount of hours over the course of a given period. And 3. Ensured the said employees all had perfectly comparable educational backgrounds, how on earth is this outrageously generalizing statement still allowed to be used as a barometer of anything in 2013? In a company of 100 employees, guess what? There are going to potentially be 100 different starting salaries, 100 schedules for raises and 100 different schedules for bonuses. And *gasp!* sometimes women make less (just as sometimes we make more).
Is the U.S. perfect? No, of course not but show me a nation that is. Perfection is an illusion. I apologize for the rant, but it seems to me that a lot of these young-ish, new wave of modern day feminists speak as if they are still living under the same often horrible circumstances that some of our mothers and grandmothers endured every day of their lives and it’s such bulls**t. When you show no appreciation or gratitude for the good that surrounds you and never acknowledge the positive…The fact is, no amount of change will ever be enough for those who chose to live in a state of perpetual dissatisfaction and self-proclaimed victimhood. I consider myself a very strong woman and as such, I don’t have to turn to blaming my gender for my misfortunes.
You seem to have blinkers on about the current push to erode the reproductive rights of US women all over the country, not to mention a lot of my friends who are less well off struggle to find a PP anywhere near them. If they do they’re in constant fear that legislative changes being proposed and pushed through means they will soon no longer have access to those services. You might see the world differently as you haven’t dealt with that personally but that’s *your* privilege showing. Don’t assume it’s ok for everyone just because it’s good for you, feminism is still very much needed in America.
What everyone calls her cry-face I just call over-acting, and I still can’t believe she won any award at all for this role, since she chews the scenery unmercifully in every damn episode. That said, I do enjoy the soap-opera-y plot…but *realistic*? Hell no, it’s f’ing absurd.
” Yes, women have more freedom and more influence than ever, but it’s hardly equal.”
I’m glad she brought this up, because I’ve seen people say, “What are western women and feminists complaining about? Just be grateful that you have more rights than women in other parts of the world.” To me that’s like someone here in America saying that everyone who’s part of the LBGT community should be glad that this isn’t Russia. Horrible oppression in other countries doesn’t mean that things are the way they should be here, either.
i´m confused what has sex/love life to to with being a feminist?
I’ve never known anyone to not be ugly crying. Your face turns red, your nose runs, things bunch up. I’d rather see a realistic ugly crier than a fake ass pretty crier.