Ariana Grande appears in the spring music issue of V magazine. The shoot is pretty cool because it combines Ariana’s style sense with a surprising lack of A-line skirts. A few of the shots are a little more risque than what we usually see her wearing, but the shoot is black-and-white, so the effect is muted. Clever. In the interview, Ariana repeats some topics that she’s already discussed, including her hair, her sensitivity to online criticism, and how she’s a nice girl. She also gets a little gross when the topic turns to her veganism. I have some thoughts on this, but for now, let’s turn the discussion over to Ariana:
More on her hair: “I use my hair as a mask, as a shield. I hide behind it and it’s what keeps me me. Some people make fun of me for it, but I don’t know who those some people are, so I don’t care.”
Why she took up veganism: “In America, almost everybody thinks you need to have meat for protein. Protein, protein, protein! And what’s in dairy? Calcium, calcium, calcium. It’s those kinds of proteins that latch onto the insides of your blood- stream and make it easier for you to have a heart attack. Look, cows produce milk with nutrients for cows. Maybe that’s why Americans end up looking like cows! Ultimately, no one wants cow tit pus in their food, do they?”
She’s a musician: “Music is my dharma. It’s what makes my heart smile and what I feel like I am meant to do. I understand music more than I understand human beings and the English language.”
Her idol is Madonna: “I just love how she stands up for what she believes in and surprises people by not eff-ing up when they want her to so badly…Know what I love most about Madonna? When a bad review came out, she was the first person to say ‘f–k you.’ When someone said she sounded like Minnie Mouse, she crawled into bed naked except for Minnie Mouse ears. It’s such a good attitude to have. It’s inspiring to me because there are times when I think I’ve been a weak, people-pleasing little mouse my whole life.”
On public criticism: “That’s what I’m learning right now, that I have to become stronger in this industry. I’ve learned over the past year that you don’t have time to chase after ever person who doesn’t understand you. The people that know me know that I’m a nice girl. My fans know that I’m a nice girl. My friends know that I’m a nice girl. And ultimately, that’s all that matters.”
[From V magazine]
What Ariana says about veganism is — and I could be torched for this — typical of how defensive a lot of people are about their diets. I think people are used to being criticized for how and what they eat, so sometimes they hit out with preemptive strikes. I’ve been ovo-lacto vegetarian for (holy crap) two decades now, and it used to really bug when people tried to push meat on me. Now I just shrug my shoulders. Everyone’s so busy trying to push their diets onto other people. I’m so used to getting picked on by Oklahomans that I wouldn’t dare get preachy about vegetarianism. Not worth it. I know people who stuff medium-rare steak into their faces as they tell me I’m killing myself by not going gluten-free. It never ends.
What Ariana says IS insensitive. There are studies that suggest how girls are getting their periods sooner because of all the hormones in animal products, but to say that Americans are turning into cows? Rude. She’s young though, and when we’re young, we think we know everything.
Photos courtesy of V magazine
Cow tits pus Oh dear… Live and let live I say. But like you say when you are young you know everything no one can tell you anything I love when they finally realise NO ONE knows everything.
I swear I said “cow. tit. pus.” out loud after I read it. Good golly, but I’m not sure that’s what milk actually is. She might find it gross, but wow.
And yes, one day she won’t know everything about everything. I was about 27 when I figured that out, and then I had to figure it out again when I had a baby at 34. 🙂
Bless her heart.
It’s gross, but the tit pus she’s referring to isn’t the milk itself. She’s talking about the fact that milk cow’s teets do get infected from all the milking sometimes, and that pus winds up in the milk. That’s why they feed them antibiotics, traces of which also end up in the milk. Of course, it’s then pasteurized, but it’s still pretty gross.
That being said, she’s pretty uneducated about this issue and shouldn’t say much until she learns more. That “protein clinging to your bloodstram” stuff is just incorrect.
@MaiGirl – as someone who grew up on a dairy, your comment is a bit off. When it’s picked up on a farm, milk is tested for somatic cells (the “pus” that the ill-informed like to throw around), which indicate a mammary infection called mastitis. (This is also used to determine milk grade; the lower the somatic cell count, the more the farmer gets paid, so there’s a major incentive to keep your cows healthy besides, you know, just being good a good steward of your herd.) Infected cows are ID’d based on individual monthly milk tests and are given antibiotics, usually a form of penicillin, as needed. Their milk DOES NOT enter the tank until a withdrawal period passes. Milk is also tested for antibiotic residue before being processed, and ANY trace of antibiotics results in the whole tank being dumped, which is a huge financial loss for the farmer.
So, yeah, there are no antibiotics in milk that has been conventionally processed (i.e., what you find in your grocery store).
/end rant
Thanks for the explanation. You never stop learning!
Maybe a good quote for this young lady too (never heard her singing….).
My My, My. Another person who thinks she knows it all.
If there is one thing I hate is when people dis other
peoples’ eating habits. If what she is doing works for her, more
power to her. But I will listen to my own good sense and my
physician before I will ever listen to this twit.
Actually, pus IS in the milk you find at the grocery store. She’s 100% correct (if a bit off on terminology) about the damaging effects of meat and the gross contents of milk; dismissing them without any research is the exact same defensive behavior that she’s excused of exhibiting. If you know the facts and still choose to consume what you do, then fine — but it makes my blood boil when people judge vegans without stopping to think about the food they’re consuming themselves. If you don’t even know what you’re putting it in your body, how can you decide whether someone is right to avoid it?
And the fact that so many of you had this reaction is EXACTLY why it’s so very difficult, as a vegan, to find a common ground between radicalism (which pushes people away) and spreading the word (the more eyes we open, the more progress we make toward become a healthier, more compassionate society). What she says sounds extreme because it IS extreme. The pus comes from infections that cows develop due to their stressful (understatement) living conditions and the hormones pumped into them. Look it up; every state has a specific maximum count of pus cells that are legally ALLOWED in each volume of milk. This is a fact.
Yesssss THIS! You, and she, are right. There is often pus that leads to antibiotics in our drinking milk. Hate the process and the product – not the message or the carrier of that message. And for crying out loud, she didn’t say we ARE cows, she said we LOOK like them. And as a whole we do., America. Anyone who denies it Doth Protest Too Much.
She should look up the word dharma. Music can’t “be” your dharma for you.
As a Buddhist it gets so old hearing people misuse words like dharma and karma. They’re not buzzwords, yo, they’re religious ideas!
@Patricia: Yes, a thousand times, yes.
Dharma is easy to abstract because it’s not just Buddhist, it’s Hindu and Sanskrit and they’ve eeked themselves into public subconscious. Music can be her version of a Dharma, imo, it can her her truth and knowledge and her right path to living… it’s vague, but it could be. But the karma thing, I’m Buddhist too, I’m there with you girl. In no way does karma ever mean what anyone uses it for in conventional conversation.
I don’t even know what she’s famous for and who her audience is. Def rude and young, gonna complain about being judged and then so the same thing about other peoples diets and appearances.
I was going to say the same thing! I have no clue who this girl is ( and insomnia is the only reason I am reading about her)
I must be old. I don’t know who she is. She needs to get a better PR lackey. They didn’t catch her whining about being judged, then calling people cows. Derp.
+1 on everything you just said. I don’t know who she is but her hypocrisy doesn’t make me regret that at all!
Yup. And age is no excuse for ignorance and nastiness, young or old.
If you’re really a ‘nice girl’ you should know how to have opinion without being a judgemental moron.
I don’t know who she is either and I don’t feel any need to find out.
yes she is just p!ss!ng me off.
I don’t know who she is either but I’m not interested in finding out now.
I’m not a vegan or vegetarian but I try to eat healthy. I’ve cut out all processed foods, sugar, refined carbs, and milk for the most part. I drink almond or coconut milk, try to eat tofu a few times a week and eat mounds of spinach. Sometimes my SO or family/friends sneer at how I eat and say that it’s not healthy. I would never tell them how to eat though. I would never call them cows. It doesn’t bother me when people judge my eating habits. I don’t feel I need to be right or reinforce my opinion/lifestyle by being judgey or putting other peoples choices down. (I’m also an atheist libertarian but I try my hardest to steer clear from these topics around people. I’m not ashamed. I just don’t feel the need to broadcast these personal beliefs I’ve made for myself.)
On the other hand.. I still need milk for certain teas. I have to have milk in my earl grey. It’s a thing. Substitutes won’t do.
She’s not very bright is she? But being young is not an excuse, she’s older than me, but I possess the rare quality called common sense.
+1,000,000
Yes. When are people going to stop to equate “silliness with youth”. I have met many brilliant people in their twenties and some others who were unbearably stupid. The latter are now in their forties… They’re still stupid.
I know a couple of (otherwise lovable) militant vegans who talk like that. I find it obnoxious and they won’t convert anyone with that kind of rhetoric . I like vegan food just fine I was a vegetarian for years and now I’m a bit of an omnivore. I think the PETA style vegans should zip it and live their lives according to their beliefs. In my opinion we would be better off eating less meat and ending factory farming and resources should be put into promoting humane farming instead of absolutism.
you mean rude
I’ve been a vegetarian for 14 years and a vegan for almost one year, and I can honestly say, 95% of the rudest, most defensive, pushiest comments I’ve heard about diet have been made by omnivores, not vegans or even vegetarians. I agree that PETA does more harm than good, for sure. And your comment just reinforces it; because this stereotype of the “militant vegan” persists, it makes it that much easier for meat-eaters to justify their own diets without a second look.
All I have to do is quietly ask a waitress about a dish’s ingredients, or turn down free cupcakes at work, or mention a tofu recipe… and it starts. The comments and questions and pushy, defensive, invasive, over-emotional reactions from people who still eat meat and dairy and eggs. It’s like they’re reacting to a statement I never made, or a judgment I never verbalized. They suddenly feel the need to either (a) defend the reasons they still eat what they do, saying things like “well I would too but I just love ___ too much”… or (b) — this is far more common and far more hurtful — start asking questions like, “what made you decide to become a vegan” or “well, then where do you get your protein? or calcium? or iron?! you must take so many supplements, right?” … Ugh.
First of all, I don’t have to answer these questions; it’s no one’s right to know, and I haven’t asked them about what’s on their plate, or even cast stereotypical glares down at their bloody plates of steak (even while my brain is filling with thoughts and images of that animal’s death). But the worst part is that when I *DO* answer these questions, it gets even more heated. I’m literally responding to words that came out of their mouths, yet suddenly the conversation is a heated debate about the merits of veganism and whether it’s really true that I get enough nutrients, and whether it’s really true that animals are abused and tortured in horrifying ways.
So please, please, please understand that sometimes, when you hear someone “ranting” about their vegan or vegetarian choices, it’s not ranting at all. It’s a defensiveness that they’ve built up and can’t contain any longer. It’s a frustration that no one actually cares about any of these facts, and even if they’re not going to change minds, they’re also not going to keep quiet anymore while people with LESS facts judge and tease and taunt them.
I’ve never, ever, ever told a single person that they should go vegan. And yet I can’t even count the number of times that plates of meat or steaming barbecue or gooey cheese has literally been thrust under my nose, or that someone has gotten seconds and told me “see, I’m making up for what you’re not eating, it doesn’t matter anyway.” In my opinion, all of this is far more hurtful than “overly” discussing the reasons we choose to be vegans. And come on, we’re doing it because we love animals! How cruel can you possibly be, to attempt to convince or taunt us into abandoning those values? It’s so alienating and so hurtful.
I’m sure that she can back this theory up with lots of cites to peer-reviewed research. SCIENCE! Lol
I know, right? That B.S. she said about protein is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
She keeps saying she’s a nice girl. Is she trying to convince us or herself? I’ve heard numerous and pesistent casting couch rumours.
Do share!
Her image is that of a shy sweet girl but I’ve also heard rumours that she’s not sweet at all. The ‘evidence’ for these rumours are the cheating she did with her ex-boyfriends, her bitchy behaviour towards people in general and then there’s this Youtube clip where she hangs out with friends singing ‘Somebody that I used to know’ and as soon as she discovers the camera, she sits up straight and acts very differently. Small things but I don’t buy her nice image after these quotes anymore. That’s all the proof I need.
“I know people who stuff medium-rare steak into their faces as they tell me I’m killing myself by not going gluten-free”
I have celiac (one of the issues that contributed to my infertility) and it drives me crazy when people think it’s a diet that will help them lose weight (and that gluten is evil for everyone). Unless you have celiac or a wheat allergy, gluten is fine to eat. The people who think going gluten free will help them lose weight are misinformed. If you substitute gluten free products for your regular staples (bread etc.) you will, most likely, gain weight because these products are higher in fat, calories and sugar. If you are eliminating gluten containing products and eating fruits, veg, meats and dairy, then you’ll lose weight because you’re cutting carbs (not because you’re eliminating gluten).
I’ve read the same thing…that is, if you’re don’t have celiac and you’re not allergic, going gluten-free can actually make you GAIN weight as there’s more sugar and other stuff in it.
this came up because my sister-in-law decided to go gluten-free and, knowing she’s not a celiac sufferer and she’s not allergic, I mentioned to her about how it can be detrimental. she got all huffy with me and said her doctor had recommended it because she’s trying to get preggers and had suffered three miscarriages. not that you’d necessarily know, but since you clearly have knowledge about this, I’d like to ask…have you ever heard this idea before? that it can help you get pregnant? or is that doctor full of it?
I had a lot of stomach issues and had to get tested for several illnesses. When I asked my doctor if I might have celiac she mentioned that celiac has become the new catch-all for any unexplained illnesses. Not saying that’s the situation with your sister-in-law, but I guess a lot of doctors blame celiac/gluten if they can’t find another explanation.
Doofus
I’ve never heard of this before. Specifically, gluten free boost fertility from a reputable source.
I’d imagine many people will eat healthier by reading the labels even if it’s just to cut out Gluten. Reading the ingredients makes a huge difference.
I’m dealing with my own difficulty to conceive issues. Perfectly healthy with no miscarriages. Just not happening. At this point i’m open to going gluten free.
@doofus, I’m the triple threat of infertility (I suffer from celiac, PCOS and I’m hypothyroid). Eliminating gluten from your diet will help people who have celiac, a wheat allergy or Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. People with Hashimoto’s usually have some sort of wheat allergy or celiac disease though (apparently Hashimoto’s and celiac are Comorbid conditions). In other words, I have not heard of people going gluten free and regaining their fertility unless they were diagnosed with one of the three conditions I mentioned above. Is she seeing a reproductive endocrinologist? He/she should be testing her for thyroid conditions or autoimmune diseases like PCOS. Many miscarriages are due to low progesterone (due to a leutal phase defect). I hope her doctor recommended progesterone suppositories or injections
As an aside, I know people that read up on eliminating gluten and then tell their doctor how much better they felt after they did it, so the doctor just tells tells them to continue with it if they feel it helps. Kind of like the placebo effect (that could be what your SIL did).
@florc, gluten free is definitely not healthier (unless you are eliminating gluten containing products altogether), in which case you are eliminating processed foods (and going a more organic route which, everyone knows, is better for you). Have you been seeing a reproductive endocrinologist? Sometimes fertility issues are as simple as thick cervical mucous (that won’t allow sperm to travel very far) or a Luteal phase defect. These things are very easily diagnosed and treated. Best of luck to you.
@renee, I agree with you and I think it’s ridiculous because celiac is very easily diagnosed via blood test. Why doctors would just slap that label on people without testing is beyond me. I happen to think its lazy and irresponsible.
thank you all for your replies!
I’ll be frank…she’s 45, and her hubby is 51. I think her inability to conceive has a LOT more to do with age than anything else, but I would NEVER say that to her.
I don’t think she has any of the issues you mentioned, Morticians, but not positive. she didn’t mention them when we had the convo and I’m pretty sure she would have said if she had them so she could “justify” why she was doing a gluten free diet beyond just the fertility issues. if she was that forthright about her miscarriages, I would think she’d speak freely about any other health issues regarding gluten.
Thanks again, celebitches!
@renee: Celiac is definitely NOT a catch-all for stomach issues, and it worries me that your doc would even say that. Celiac is an autoimmune disorder that can be tested, via blood test or taking a small sample from the stomach (I think) because the blood test isn’t 100 percent accurate. A true Celiac can actually get violently ill if they consume contaminated food.
@doofus ~ If she is eating foods made from GMO products, then that could prevent her from becoming pregnant because one of their side effects can be sterility. Many foods with gluten are made with GMOs, so it could make sense to go off of them in that way. She might want to research the big lists of GMO ingredients and also research about adding organic coconut oil and other good fats to her diet. Sprouting micro-greens at home might be beneficial for her as well.
But the biggest thing she should do is get a FULL testing of her thyroid. Many women are considered low normal with one test, but actually have hypothyroidism, which can mess up the hormones. Stop the Thyroid Madness has good lists on Face book.
There also is another test for a uterine bacteria that can cause miscarriages that she might want to research and get as well. I’m sorry for her losses.
There’s also gluten sensitivity that affects a lot of people where you don’t have celiac but eating gluten produces low level digestive issues and a general feeling of “malaise”. I went gluten-free for awhile, but I did it the latter way and it cleared up a lot of the issues I’d been having (and lost quite a bit of weight). Now I eat gluten in moderation, but I can feel it when I’ve had too much.
@wren, Yes, there are four gluten-related disorders: celiac disease, non-celiac gluten sensitivity, dermatitis herpetiformis and gluten ataxia. There is also a true wheat allergy, but that’s a bit more unusual.
I didn’t want to appear pedantic, so I just cut to celiac and wheat allergies. You are lucky though. If I ingest anything with gluten I become sick and develop a rash. Even some “gluten free products” affect me because they are allowed to contain 20 ppm of gluten (and still be labeled gluten free). Those of us who suffer from celiac can be affected by as little as 5 ppm of gluten.
I also know people who have eliminated gluten thinking it was a gluten sensitivity, only to be tested by an allergist and find out it was something else (ie lactose). The relief you felt could be from cutting out something else entirely from your diet (that’s also in a lot of processed foods).
Thank you for this. I’m not celiac and don’t know anyone who is; however, being in my mid-30’s now I have about a million friends who are trying to lose weight, feel better about themselves after children, etc. and this has been a hot topic. I have read the exact same thing that you posted and believe it to be true. Dieticians have been saying since the whole ‘gluten free’ craze started that you really don’t need to deprive yourself of gluten unless you are allergic.
I have one friend who is not the smartest and I hate to say it, rather uneducated and she decided that her family needed to go gluten free because her daughter had a weak immune system (WTF?) and was catching every cold or flu bug that passed through school. So she did, she did lose a little weight that she didn’t need to lose in the first place and her daughter (as the school year progressed), stopped getting so sick. Now over a year later and her kid gets sick again. LOL, I have no doubt it has nothing to do with gluten and everything to do with the fact that kids get sick!!
Anyways, just wanted to say thank you for putting this out there because I think more people need to realize that gluten free is not always a quick weight loss fix.
🙂
@happy, thanks for the response. I know a lot of people like that and it drives me crazy! I suppose I’m just jealous because I can’t have real bread and they’re choosing not to have it because of a trend (and can very easily eat it without having stomach pains, GI issues, a 500% risk in increase of GI cancer and horrible skin rashes) lol.
Also, people who suffer from celiac actually gain weight when they eliminate gluten because their small intestine had regained the ability to adequately absorb nutrients. The gluten damages our ability to absorb calories and nutrients and we are actually thinner (albeit sick) when we eat gluten. Add to that the higher calorie, fat and sugar content of gluten free substitutes (gluten free breads, crackers etc). and we have all complained about added weight gain!
@doofus, the multiple miscarriage issue definitely sounds like a luteal phase defect (where the corpus luteum cannot produce enough progesterone to maintain a pregnancy). I really hope she looks into these more obvious possibilities before she starts exploring the less likely problems.
I think she needs more pictures of her facing away from the camera. That face she makes is distracting. To me, she looks scared or worried or apprehensive or…(let me get my thesaurus). At any rate, it doesn’t look good.
With you on this and tell me, who is she?
She used to be on the nickelodeon show victorious, (she played the ditzy redhead girl) but she’s a singer now. And a good one. She won either artist of the year or album of the year for her debut album Yours Truly. She’s 20.
I’m sure it’s mainly the eyebrows that give her that weird look. She must have the same brow-stylist as Natalie Portman, who very often has the same ‘is she trying to cry and laugh or is she scared, uncomfortable or…(please hand over that thesaurus)- look
She’s just another immature know-it-all who has yet to experience the harsh realities that come with being an adult. Give her a few years and maybe she will realize what an idiot she really portrayed herself to be; right along with Miley, Beiber and a few others.
Her comments were definitely aggressive and insensitive, but she has a point. Cows are repeatedly impregnated and fed growth hormones in order to perpetually produce copious amounts of milk. Their udders inevitably become infected because they have machines sucking them dry multiple times a day, EVERY day! The reason milk is pasteurized is because it contains both pus and, in some cases, blood.
A study from the Journal of Harvard Nurses claimed that our misguided dependence on milk & cheese for calcium is actually promoting high cholesterol AND osteoporosis, but agribusinesses had gone to great expense to convince us otherwise. The other thing to consider is the inherent cruelty behind this industry: every time a cow gives birth, her calf is taken from her so as not to drink “our” supply of milk. If the calf is female, she’ll live a life of physical pain, servitude and repeated separation from her young until her productivity declines, and then she’ll be sent to slaughter. If the calf is male, then he is of no use to the dairy industry and will be sold as veal within a couple of weeks. There is no logic or kindness behind the production of dairy, but advertising has manipulated us so well that we can’t see past the “Got Milk?” ads and USDA pyramids.
+100000000000000000000000. These are the reason I’don’t drink milk and I don’t eat milk products.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
It breaks my heart that so many people are so quick to dismiss these facts. So defensive of their own choices, so comfortable with their own routine, that they brand vegans as “crazies” for literally stating hard facts.
Youth is not an excuse. I’m a couple month older than she is and no one would let me get away with saying stupid thing because I’m young.
I must point out however, that she is incredibly talented. She’s young, give her time.
When she says she hides behind her hair, she could literally do it. That is a lot of weave.
Well. Hm. The reasons Americans look like cows has sadly little to do with actual cows and much more to do with the complex world of big food marketing. Things like measuring the salient factors of chip packets and adjusting the levels of fats, sugars and salt in foods until you’ve basically produced a non-nutritive food look alike. That is why we Americans are so fat and unhealthy. The average person is blissfully unaware that fruit gummies that contain “25% juice!” contain 75% sh!t.
But she’s young and opinionated, which I guess I prefer over young and unopinionated, lol!
+1
Yes, her comments are rude but I don’t mind at all. Americans are becoming shockingly obese at a very rapid rate. Scores of overweight teenagers at the mall is not an unusual sight these days. Pussy footing around the burgeoning health epidemic in the making is not working, obviously. Maybe more people like her who speak their mind might be more effective.
As for the milk, pasteurization is supposed to get rid of all the nasty stuff cows emit. Let’s hope so, anyway.
Precisely.
uhhh… obesity is a worldwide epidemic. it’s not just america, though we are paving the way. at least the obesity rate has stabilized in the us, so there is a slight glimmer of hope!
The dairy issue is in my view more complex and has more to do with processing than the milk itself. Milk pasteurization appears to be one of the key issues: depriving us from the true benefits of dairy while messing up our digestive system and bone structure.
I’m not an expert and there’s so many conflicting research material. It seems however that people consuming dairy made from raw milk (and animals fed with grass instead of corn) are doing better in terms of cholesterol. Raw dairy products are very hard to find though so we’re not really given a chance to try something that may work.
In the end, everyone does what works best for them and I don’t see why she needs to be so aggressive and judgemental about that
If only I’d known it worked like that! I could have been on a diet of Cate Blanchett for the last ten years.
Definitely this 🙂 count me in.
Wow, that milk comment is just unmitigated ignorance. I hope nobody is going to take nutrition advice from her, or any celebrity for that matter.
Maybe, just maybe, people are getting fat from all the sugar and empty carbs that so much of our food is loaded with, and NOT from milk. Just perhaps.
Haha, THIS. I don’t think any obese person has been to the doctor and has been told- “It’s all the milk you drink! It’s making you look like a cow! Stop this nonsense immediately!”
It’s the same with other elimination diets when your goal is to lose weight-they definitely do work- but someone who is cutting out carbs to lose weight (and again, that is probably the quickest way to lose 5 pounds in a week) and not eating fruit…. No one became fat because they ate too many grapes.
I am 56 and have loved milk all my life. I drink 1% now. I’m not overweight, not skinny either, but that’s not because of milk. And I have, according to my doctor, the bone density of a 15 year old. Diets are more complicated than drinking cow milk makes you a cow.
I find her to be a little know-it-all, which is age appropriate, I suppose, but none the less irritating. When I was her age, I was skinny and toned. Because I was her age, not because of my wisdom. Oh well.
Yes! Nothing but dumb a$$ery on her part.
It’s not ignorance, it’s fact. What she said about meat sounds stupid because she obviously got her terminology wrong (though animal protein is, indeed, more harmful and less beneficial than plant protein). But what she said about milk — that’s true. Calling it “dumb a$$ery” from a “little know-it-all” must be so much easier than taking five seconds to google “cow pus milk”. Take those few extra seconds to refrain from defensive judgment, and maybe your eyes will open. Maybe your diet won’t change at all, but at least you’ll be a little wiser and a little less willing to jump to quick, convenient conclusions.
Seriously… how do so many people drink milk every day and not realize that there are federal and state guidelines for the maximum amount of pus cells allowed in our drinking milk? It’s there. It comes from severe stress. It’s not crazy, it’s fact.
Well MOO! I love milk! Plus I have no idea who this girl is.
Full disclosure: I consume dairy products. But as a former vegan and vegetarian (strict) for 17 years, there is a lot of truth to what she’s saying about dairy; she’s just being an arse about it. I mean at the end of the day most of us put a lot of bad stuff into our bodies, or are at least exposed to it.
Also, when did she get famous? I heard she sang at the Grammy’s. That’s about it. And she is older than she looks. And she’s doing a duet with (ew) Chris Brown. I give no effs about this girl until she proves herself more interesting for gossip.
Sounds like she has been reading the skinny bitch books to me. That is exactly what they say. I believe a plant based diet is better for us but sometimes I want cheese or meat. It is all balance. Also I think her I dream of Jeannie weave is awful!
lol, those books are f—ed up, I’m sorry. I don’t need to be yelled at for 13 chapters. ARE YOU BRUSHING YOUR TEETH WITH NATURAL TOOTHPASTE? NO???? ENJOY YOUR F—ING BRAIN DISEASE!!!!!!!!!!
She said MAYBE that’s why they look like cows. Semantics, people. She wasn’t speaking in absolutes here.
Actually there have been studies done proving cows milk is not good for humans passed the age of 2. But let’s be honset, EVERY single society on this earth drinks milk. Go to any country and you will find people drinking milk. Americans do have a poor diet though, but that’s mostly because junk food is cheaper than healthy food. Something needs to change about that. She has the right to think what she wants, and she has done some research when it comes to cow’s milk. Cow’s milk is meant for calves to drink so they can gain weight and get bigger. We are the only species that drinks the milk of another species willingly. It is kind of gross…but I just can’t give up dairy products. Chocolate, ice cream, cheese, etc. are just too good. I’ve tried soy substitutes but no…just no.
milk isn’t good for humans past age 2? cite these mysterious studies.
most animals do not process lactose after infancy, that’s true. humans have evolved to retain the ability to digest lactose, and hence we can reap the other nutritional benefits of drinking milk into adulthood.
Here are 2 of many:
Frank Oski, M.D., author of Don’t Drink Your Milk! He is the Director of the Department of Pediatrics of Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and Physician-in-Chief of the Johns Hopkins Children’s Cente.
Dr. William Ellis, a retired osteopathic physician and surgeon in Arlington, Texas, who has researched the effects of dairy products for 42 years.
I’m not saying you have to believe their studies, but it is interesting. By the way, I’m not sure these two were the ones that said drinking milk after the age of 2 is unnecessary…but they don’t agree with humans drinking milk.
And the most amazing thing is, not only are we drinking milk from another species, we consider the human milk disgusting. I know very, very little people who don’t cringe at the thought to taste breastmilk, even if it’s from their own wife. Some time ago, there was a scandal because an ice cream parlor would sell ice cream made from women’s breastmilk. People were DISGUSTED because well…this kind of milk is supposed to be for babies, you know. Nobody even considered that, technically, all milk is meant to be for the offspring, cows do not produce their milk to please us.
So…not saying i am against drinking milk in general, i love love love my hot chocolat in bed before i go to sleep, but it is a topic that is worth thinking about.
@ foodlover
I agree with everything you wrote. This is very true.
First, cows are beautiful. I though vegans love animals? And, who is she? A singer? I never heard her music, I’m pretty sure she is an average pop star.
I hate to sound like an old person at 29, but who the helll is this???
She was on that Nickelodeon show “Victorious” and now she has her own show called “Sam and Cat”…it’s very popular among kids and pre-teens. She also released her first album this year. Her first single went number 1. She does have an amazing voice.
I’m 25. I know who she is, but not what she does. I think I know what Victorious is from tumblr, but, yeah…
I hate shit like this. ANYTHING in excess will make you fat &/or unhealthy. Just like almost everyone who spouts off “nutritional advice” might be a kernel of truth in what she says, but its so masked in self-righteous bullshit that its hard to find. People who are militant about shoving their specialized diets onto other people are assholes.
That made me laugh, and it’s true! She’ll be spouting off something totally different but just as stupid next year, you wait.
YES! Thank you @Bodhi!!
THIS. My parents used to lecture me about how I should eat more honeydew and canteloupe, instead of watermelon and pineapple, because the latter two were more fattening, and I was trying to lose weight, and blah blah. It was so annoying, I finally turned to them one day and said “Show me one person, just ONE person, who got fat from eating watermelon or pineapple, and I’ll stop. But you won’t be able to, because I promise you that I didn’t get overweight from eating FRUIT.”
They never brought it up again. 🙂
I don’t drink milk for a variety of reasons, none of them being that I might look like a cow if I do. It contains too much protein, not enough calcium, and can possibly leech calcium from the bones, leading to osteoporosis (animal products can make the blood acidic, which leeches nutrients out of the bones).
I do eat cheese, though. I can’t quit it!
I’m with you on this one.
My doctor did a bone density test on me when I was 55 and he said I have the bone density of a 15 year old, as I said above. He asked if I was a milk drinker, and I said yes and he said he could always tell because milk drinkers had such strong bones. So what you’re saying may be true in some cases, idk, but it certainly wasn’t in mine.
It was something I learned in medical school, during my orthopedic rotation. A lot of “old school” physicians still subscribe to the “milk is awesome” idea. Studies now are showing it isn’t necessarily true.
He was actually quite young. That’s what’s so frustrating about medicine. Doctors always act as though they are positive about what’s good for you until it turns out not to be true. Then they’re positive that it’s bad for you until that turns out not be true either. Anyway, it’s working for me. I’ll just muddle along, then. Lol
you don’t have to be old to be “old school.” LOL. The biggest reason I don’t drink milk? I don’t care for it. I think pretty much anything in moderation is OK, just not milk for me. Almond milk on the other hand… yum!
I love almond milk, too. And I hope you come back to read this, because it occurred to me in the night that you might think I was being disrespectful in what I said about doctors. I was just trying to make a lame joke. I have great respect for what you’re doing.
@ GoodNamesAllTaken
In case “paranormalgirl” doesn’t come back, may I add that you didn’t come off as being disrespectful, at least not to me. This is how I know you’re a good person, you actually THOUGHT about your comment during the night and was worried you disrespected someone on the INTERNET. That, in and of itself, makes you nicer than 90% of the people on this earth.
idk, thank you so much. That was really sweet and thoughtful of you to comment. I feel better!
I’m so grossed out by her word use w/ the cows. Is that also how she refers to human breast milk?! I mean come on, you can say how you feel without using “cow tit pus”. Sick.
I think she is actually referring to the way milk is produced in mass production. The factory cows are milked until their teets are bloody, scabby and infected. It leaks into the milk that is being retrieved. Gross I know but you can google it, if you can stomach it.
She’s not very bright, is she? Lol
Who is she? And couldn’t she just stop drinking milk?
Will someone please tell me who this grumpy little cow is and why we should listen to her??
She goes on about her diet and being a “nice girl” and all it’s doing is making me believe those rumours about her snorting coke are true.
Marilu Henner was very big on this in the 90s (I think)- she was talking about how dairy is evil and she wouldn’t allow her kids to touch it. Something like: no meat, no dairy, no sugar.
Does she have any other hairstyle?
I hate people who jibber jabber about things that are bad for you, but do not give any specifics or data to back it up. Like, she could have easily explained the protein issue in cow’s milk (A1 and A2 proteins) and what not instead of being vague and mentioning tit pus. She has no idea what she is talking about.
Would she be okay drinking human breast milk?
My dharma?! Shut up.
Without getting into the details of things like hormones present in cow milk today, I’ll just say these things: First, Ariana Grande is a rude, self-involved twit, and age is no excuse for it. Second, 100 years ago Americans drank cow milk and did not have the obesity problem that exists today; there are many other issues at play with that problem.
It’s the added hormones in the dairy and meat that make us look like cows. If you eat and drink hormone free organic dairy, you will be fine, as long as it is low fat. And, the same goes for organic red meat in moderation.
There’s no such thing as hormone-free meat or dairy. ALL dairy and meat contains hormones, as do vegetables and fruits. (If it’s been alive, it contains hormones.) Now, you can have dairy and meat produced without artificial hormones, but that doesn’t mean they’re hormone-free.
Sorry. Farm kid in the house.
What a weird and snobby thing of her to say, especially since she herself felt the need to lose weight over the past few years. She wasn’t even fat. Oh well. I still like her though.
There’s some drama going on between her and Perez Hilton. Some of Ariana’s crazier fans (yes, she already has some young fans who are cray cray) got mad at Perez over some criticism he gave her, so they said nasty things about him and his baby. Perez got upset and said that it’s shameful of Ariana to not say anything about her fans behavior. Then, he also put up this concern-trolling post accusing her of having a cocaine problem, and now her people are thinking about suing him.
I like what she says here: “That’s what I’m learning right now, that I have to become stronger in this industry. I’ve learned over the past year that you don’t have time to chase after ever person who doesn’t understand you.” This must be a hard lesson that all young celebrities have to learn pretty quickly. People- including grown ass adults in their late 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s- have no qualms about being really nasty and hateful about the things they say about celebrities who are 18, 17, 16, and 15. If I ever have a kid who’s talented and wants to be famous, I’d be very cautious about letting them go after their dreams while they’re underage for this reason. Especially girls.
I like this photoshoot and I like her style.
Regardless of what I think of Ariana Grande, she’s certainly more mature than Perez Hilton. I think Perez Hilton is a COMPLETE jacka$$. He has the mentality – and vocabulary – of a 10-year-old (except that might be insulting to 10-year-olds everywhere). I tried to read his site once, it made my eyes bleed.
True. He’s very immature and I’ve had issues with some of the stuff he has said in the past. I first started looking at his blog when I was 15 and I was thinking, “I’m more mature than this person.”
God, why do people have to be such jackasses about what they eat, whether it be vegetarian or carnivore? Just let people eat what they want and stop with the preaching and insults.
completely over the jailbait look constantly.
This has nothing to do with Americans looking like cows but studies have been done and it seems most people who consume milk or products with lactose are North American/European descent. Most of the world is lactose intolerant and do not eat cheese, yogurt etc. Some kind of genetic mutation in white people’s diet (since the milk consumption tradition started in Europe) helped then develop enzymes in their stomachs that digest lactose that did not develop in other countries. So actually being lactose intolerant is actually the norm.
I guess we’ll never see her in a “Got milk?” commercial, lol
I don’t understand why some people have to belittle other people’s eating habits or food choices. The way she talked about cow’s milk sounded very unintelligent and disrespectful.
” Maybe that’s why Americans end up looking like cows! Ultimately, no one wants cow tit pus in their food, do they?”
Go home. Or better yet-go to school. If all fails-hire a better agent to teach you how to do better interview.
“no one wants cow tit pus in their food, do they?”.
Yes, yes I do. Because vegan chocolate is awful and depressing.
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Slightly off topic but I’m starting to hate “she/he is young” as an excuse for this youngsters mistakes. I remember how the press didn’t condone a single mistake to, say, Britney, Christina, Jessica…. and they were all this around her age, or younger, when they began their careers.
Sorry for my off-topic rant but this excuse for stupid people like Bieber, Cyrus, this girl et.al. really get on my nerves
I think what most people don’t realize is that Americans are being “guided” nutritionally by the USDA, who’s actual main priority is to promote american agriculture. This creates massive conflicts of interest, such as when the majority of americans are overweight, the usda is also trying to push cheese. http://theconversation.com/us-government-pushes-pizza-to-help-the-cheese-industry-23154 Also, check out the book meatonomics…
she has a really small face and really a lot of hair. this is all I got.
I’ve been drinking that “cow tit pus” for nearly 30 yrs. Never weighed over 110 pounds.
It made me laugh out loud and I liked that. It’s totally insensitive and even outrageous, but I do believe that cow’s milk and meat are the root of all evil, so…
I’m assuming she means fat when she calls people ‘cows’, either way stupid argument to make for why people are fat or become fat.
Teenagers!!!
With two thirds of the population overweight or obese in the US, 34% of which is obese, she is actually not THAT far off the mark. She is, I agree in a very immature way, using dairy consumption as a way to illustrate the diseases of affluence and overindulgence that are crippling the health of the nation. It may sound like a petulant teen saying it, but there is truth in what sounds like vitriol.
Its true. Bovine Growth Hormone is in our meat, milk and cheese.
“Maybe that’s why Americans end up looking like cows! Ultimately, no one wants cow tit pus in their food, do they?”
“The people that know me know that I’m a nice girl. My fans know that I’m a nice girl. My friends know that I’m a nice girl. And ultimately, that’s all that matters.”
Yes Ariana. . .you’re so nice. . .that’s exactly what comes to mind.
Word History Five hundred years ago, when nice was first used in English, it meant “foolish or stupid.” This is not as surprising as it may seem, since it came through early French from the Latin nescius, meaning “ignorant.”
Boy, diet is a complicated issue and she seems quite rude.
I think there is not a perfect diet but a perfect way of eating for every person. My parents were vegetarians and I grew up in a no processed food and not too much sugar household. I have been vegetarian too for a long time but I got ill. I started to eat meat and I feel sooooo much better… Although I hate myself a little because I feel sorry for the animals I eat.
As for my parents, my mother had cancer (she passed away) and my dad is fighting now an advance colon cancer. He also had a stroke, inspite of having very low bad cholesterol. And my brother, the healthiest and most active young man I know, has type 1 diabetes.
So, I just let everybody eat what they fancy and try not to preach to much about the “benefits” of going gluten free or milk free or whatever.
I do not know this Ariana girl but she should shut up.
she’s wrong. milk isn’t turning americans into cows. americans ARE cows.
I lost 18 pounds on organic gluten free diet without trying.
Although I wasn’t trying to lose weight.
I feel so much better now, more energy and sleep better too.
There are no absolutes in my opinion.
What works for one might not work the other person.
I don,t think that it would hurt most people, if they would be eating organic plant based diet more often instead of meat, eggs and dairy.
So many people are sick today from diseases that are preventable, it cost too much and not only financially.
Prevention is smart for all, the cost of health care and obesity will break the bank soon.
We need to be all more responsible.
Why so rude?
Do you need a hug?
Do you hate Canadians too?
Her choice of words may be juvenile..but she is not completely off base. There is pus and blood in milk. Animal protein is not good for you. Read The China Study and/or Preventing and Reversing Heart Disease by Dr.Esselstyn….and watch Forks Over Knives. The data is out there…but the big industry bullies with much more money & influence dominate what info is made easily available. Big industries like factory farming, biotech, medical, pharmaceutical and insurance. They want people to stay sick , tired and in the dark. There is no money in healthy people.
Hee. Her delivery is a bit brash, but she’s not entirely wrong. Cow milk is essentially a weaning product for baby cows. We are the only species that sees fit to drink another species’ weaning product. And the casein protein in milk IS actually quite a carcinogenic product. You can find this research in Dr. Colin Campbell’s book The China Study…it’s based on actual clinical research, not just something I, or she is pulling out of her rear end, if you are curious to know more. The pus thing…well, lets just call that an unfortunate freebie. But hey, to each his or her own. Personally, I don’t touch the stuff.
My thoughts: According to the interview, Ariana seems like a very nice girl. I honestly saw nothing bad or rude about her.