Jack White: ‘I don’t see beauty in texting & not talking face to face’

Jack White

The world wouldn’t be the same without the occasional bitchy interview from Jack White. Did you see his recent sad baseball face at a Chicago Cubs game? That made my day. “Grumpy Jack” doesn’t dislike baseball. He simply had a bad day. I follow a blogger on Twitter who snapped a photo of Jack smiling at a Bay area game a few weeks later. There was talk of him getting hit with a ball in Chicago. I don’t know.

Back to Jack White bitching to the media. I’m so entertained when he does this. This year alone, Jack’s publicly continued his Black Keys feud and shaded Meg White for not applauding his every move. Jack’s a sensitive curmudgeon. Behind his genius lies a little boy who wants everyone’s approval. Don’t worry, Jack. Your fans approve.

Jack’s tour to support the Lazarettto album is getting rave reviews. He took some time out to visit Dan Rather for The Big Interview. Jack is still upset about auto-tune. He believes Detroit doesn’t like him anymore. He thinks that musicians of the 1960s had it a lot easier than those of the digital age. That comment is open for interpretation:

The state of songwriting: “I was talking to Bob Dylan and I said, ‘In a way, you guys had it so lucky in the Sixties.’ All these recording techniques that had never been tried before, the Civil Rights movement was coming to a head, the Vietnam War. The whole world was changing … There was so much to sing about. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.”

He finds no inspiration in today’s youth: “I don’t see beauty in teenagers sitting next to each other texting and not talking face to face. I don’t see that beauty in the way that pop music is all recorded on computers and Auto-Tune and presented in that really plastic way. And I guess I just do my best in whatever I do to try to defeat those ideas and present it in something I think is at least an attempt at getting at truth and getting at beauty.”

More ranting: “It is a lot harder now, and I am a little bit jealous of the artists from the other decades because it seemed like you could just do your job and not worry about this periphery of stuff. The idea that I just have to be a hustler now just to be a musician, you sort of have to sell yourself all the time now. I think you could have just been a songwriter and everyone else would do that around you. I doubt Frank Sinatra cared what was on his album cover.”

Leaving Detroit: “It was very hard for me to move. Detroit, I always imagined I was going to be there my whole life. It always felt like my home — even as hard as it is to live there, it always felt that way to me.”

Detroit fans didn’t like his mainstream success: “When you’re in that kind of cynical environment, it’s hard for people to understand how to relate to it. It was hard for me to understand … When you win the lottery, what do you do? You give your brothers and sisters a million dollars if you win the lottery, they’re going to end up hating you a couple of years later.”

He loves living in Nashville: “They look at music and the business of music so differently than I do that I thought, ‘Well, maybe this is the perfect place.’ I can just kind of be comfortable here, and I won’t be in competition with anybody else.”

[From Dan Rather – The Big Interview]

Jack has several good points. He became a successful rock god when the internet was full of framed HTML designs. There was no Facebook or Instagram. People didn’t take his photo at baseball games and post it on Twitter. He didn’t have to worry about saying whiny things in interviews and having those statements go viral in a matter of hours. Back in the day, Jack could say something bitchy in the print edition of Spin, and everyone would forget it by the next issue. Online journalism makes it harder for artists to self-edit their opinions.

Jack’s correct about the 1960s too. That was a period of great social upheaval, and it provided inspiration for some righteous music. Jack’s doing just fine at creating in 2014. He loves to complain, and texting makes a good target too. If I could turn off phone texts, there’d be a few less bitch sessions per month in my house.

Here’s video of Jack’s long interview with Dan Rather. They toured Jack’s Third Man Records studio. Then Jack covered Hank Williams’ “Tennessee Border.”

Jack White

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  1. The Original G says:

    Yeah. Getting old is a bitch.

  2. Chris says:

    Won’t be remembered for his wicked sense of humor.

  3. Kiddo says:

    I like his music, don’t know much about him as a person. He’s wrong about the times, though. There is upheaval (Ferguson) and an undercurrent of dissatisfaction that hasn’t quite met the boiling point yet (income inequality and loss of democracy and voice, civil rights, etc., collectively). Instead of complaining about the change, be the change, for crissakes. You have a huge platform in which to do it, computerized music aside. This is almost a more grounded Kanye rant, but not quite.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      He *almost* single-handedly saved The Masonic Temple, so he obviously tries to do his part to preserve a part of musical history that he cares about.
      http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-22782909

      He’s nowhere near Kanye-level, but I agree that the complaining is incredibly boring.

      • Kiddo says:

        Glad to hear that. I don’t want to diss him. Just saying that there is plenty of turmoil around the world for material, I understand the tortured artist element, but sometimes you need to move the gaze away from your own navel and dig deeper or REALLY look around, KWIM?

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        I think it’s easier for Jack to whine than to open his eyes and see what’s actually occurring around him. For all his bemoaning about modern-day society, he still leads the life of a stereotypically isolated rock star recluse. He complains about society while simultaneously barricading himself against it–it just bugs me. You’re doing what you can to modify your participation in things, Jack, so why the need to keep complaining?

        That being said, I’m a fan. He’s such a talented guy-he’s temperamental for sure, but I think he’s just a really passionate man….but he wears me down with the incessant bitching, he really does.

      • Kiddo says:

        I LOVE his music, I’ve just gotten better at separating the person from the art, and their commentary from the art, if you know what I mean. No worship merely for love of the art. That said, having seen him interviewed on Conan, he didn’t come off as self-obsessed, more self-possessed and thoughtful. I don’t think he was bitching then.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Yeah he’s a very intelligent guy for sure, but the complaining about the state of current music is present in almost EVERY interview he does. That’s not an exaggeration.

        If you look at his wikiquote page, the guy makes a lot of sense, but he loses me with the repetitive nature of his complaints. Like, we get it Jack. Music is dead, art is disposable, people are soulless, blah blah blah.

        http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_White

        I’ve always been able to separate people from their art–they train you to do that in art school–but that doesn’t mean I’m exempt from disappointment when I find out an actor or a musician I like is a big dbag. I don’t think Jack is a dbag, I just think his message gets lost in his predictable grumpiness. He’s in desperate need of some new material.

      • Kiddo says:

        I think with music it can be more difficult to separate the artist from the music because lyrics have the effect of making you believe that that person is sensitive, or attuned to the world, or someone you can relate to, where visual arts are not exactly that same way. The songs are short, compared to novels, and so you only get bullet points (emotional notes) to a particular theme or emotion.

  4. Jaderu says:

    He reminds me of the goth kids on South Park.
    Agree with him on texting though.

  5. TheOriginalKitten says:

    I have a few friends that saw him play at Fenway last night—they said he was fantastic. He sounds like a million other rock musicians here–they always lament modern-day music and romanticize 60s-era rock.

    That being said, I don’t mind it much from him, because he’s always been kind of a tortured genius. It’s just his thing.

    • Eleonor says:

      the 60’s were the golden age of r’n’r for a lot of reasons: everything we’ve had after those amazing decades is an evolution of what people like Bowie, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Dylan did in that time.

    • Sullivan says:

      I agree that he’s the tortured genius type. An artist.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      I have plenty of music from the 1960s in my music collection–it was a revolutionary time in music history. I get it, I really do. I’m just SO tired of people putting that musical era up on a pedestal. It’s like The Greatest Generation bullsh*t. Blah.

      There’s plenty of amazing music being made RIGHT NOW-you just have to dig a little deeper for it, (hint: it’s NOT on your local Top 40 radio station) but it’s there. The underground is alive and thriving, with almost every musical genre equally-represented. But I guess it’s easier to idealize the past than to take the time to seek out new artists that are making great music, and who are just begging for someone to lend an ear.

      EDIT: I’m not directing my comment to anyone here–just to White and some of my hipster friends who are always whining like old people about The Death of Great Music.

      • Kiddo says:

        Great music isn’t dead, but marketing is now over the top, in the other direction. So he does have a point about THAT.

    • mia girl says:

      TOK – Thanks for sharing what your friends said. I’m seeing him again this Sunday night. So excited!

      PS. I’ll be sure to let him know to stop screaming at all the kids in his lawn.

      • Trillion says:

        Saw him 2 weeks ago and it was easily one of the best musical performances I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Don’t care to know anything about him. I just want him to keep making music forever. Heard there will be another Raconteurs release and I’m hoping for more Dead Weather too. IMO, he’s peerless.

  6. vixo says:

    Love him 🙂

  7. Bish says:

    He looks like death warmed up.

  8. Tulip says:

    Teenagers texting instead of talking when they sit next to each other…I’m just going to say that private conversation in a house with your family is hard to come by. Or at a restaurant when you’re with others. At least acknowledge the benefits of it. As a kid you rarely get left alone (so goes my experience), so you do what you can.

    I like his music, but sometimes it feels like he talks like a miserly 80 year old.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      So much word to your last sentence.

    • Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

      Being of a generation that had walkmans, typed on manual typewriters and really did walk three miles to school in the blinding snow – the texting has been a difficult concept to get around – thank you for filling in the generation gap 🙂

  9. Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

    Texting is a conspiracy against humanity – thumbs are what allowed us to evolve and arthritis is what all these happy texters will have in about 40 years which will make it difficult for them to vote so the Aliens can take total power.

    • RosettaStoned says:

      It’s a wonder your generation has thumbs left at all after 3+ decades of heavy couch-based TV remote use!

  10. bns says:

    His comment about youth of today is so ignorant.

  11. Hautie says:

    I never really thought much about the White Stripes. Until Jack produced that Loretta Lynn album. Honestly, that is an outstanding album. Loretta has always been a little twangy for my ears. But he really did a great job producing her.

    Yet, I love anyone willing to be cranky with an interviewer. So Jack White… you keep on being cranky. I hate ass kissers.

  12. DavidBowie says:

    Someone needs a nap (and a bath).

  13. Frida_K says:

    I don’t know why, but suddenly, looking at him in these pictures, I find him oddly sexy and attractive.

    :0

  14. Ash says:

    His name definitely fits him. Somebody whiter than me!

  15. RocketMerry says:

    He’s adorable and can do no wrong in my eyes. Sigh. Reminds me of my high school years.

  16. Karen says:

    I love him. The end. If people dug a bit deeper, beyond the bitchy quotes – you might be surprised.

  17. maddelina says:

    I like him and agree about the texting.

  18. KateBush says:

    Jack is in my humble opinion the best thing happening in music today, I don’t care if he occasionally grumbles in interviews so what? It’s his music I’m interested in.

  19. boo says:

    I listened to the whole interview and found him intelligent, engaging, charming as all get out, and I’ll have to listen to his music a little more. Didn’t know much about Jack White, just what I’ve heard here and there and it’s usually just gossip type stuff that we get on Celeb. I’ve not heard too much of his music, I’m kind of an oldie, R&B buff, but lately I’ve been listening to a more progressive radio station and I think they play him, I can’t tell though until at the end of the long music set they’ll say his name and the name of his song and by then I’ve forgotten it! Yeah getting old is a bitch.

  20. kri says:

    It’s late for me to comment, but I will say that even Jack’s bitchy grumbling makes me love him. Add that to his insane talent level and creativity, and I’m done for. I would give up the Batch, Tom Hardy, Idris, Ewan and anyone else I have the hots for if I could climb Jack White. And I’d have to, cause he is like 6’2 and a big dude. His music makes me think, and feel, and I am THE Fangirl for this guy. He’s genius and oddly beautiful. Okay, I’m done-sorry.

  21. Trixielolo77 says:

    Does this guy look this pale and sick all the time? I think he needs more vitamins or should lay off the make up. He scares me.