Miley Cyrus says many things that should be taken seriously, but it’s hard to take Miley seriously because she’s always flashing her girls. See, I shouldn’t say that and feel bad for saying that. Miley has driven people to that point. She just posed naked with a pig and did naked backbends for Paper magazine. Miley was promoting Happy Hippie foundation, which supports LGBT youth, but her message was lost in her “shocking” nudity. The Paper interview was supposed to be relatively serious. Miley spoke about how, at age 14, she came out to her mother as bisexual. Miley said, “I am literally open to every single thing that is consenting and doesn’t involve an animal and everyone is of age. Everything that’s legal, I’m down with.” What everyone noticed was Miley’s naked backbends.
Miley has a new interview with Time where she talks about gender stereotypes. She rambles a lot because she’s Miley. She doesn’t identify as a girl or boy but as “gender fluid.” Actually, she doesn’t even like that term but says it’s the closest she can come to fitting a label:
She’s “gender fluid”: “I’m just equal. I’m just even. It has nothing to do with any parts of me or how I dress or how I look. It’s literally just how I feel. People try to make everyone something. You can just be whatever you want to be.”
Miley on gender stereotypes: With guys, Cyrus says, there was an “overly macho energy” that she didn’t like. “That made me feel like I had to be a femme-bot, which I’m not. And then when I was with a girl, I felt like, ‘Oh sh*t, she’s going to need someone to protect her, so I’m going to need to have this macho energy.’ And that didn’t feel right either” Cyrus says she sat in a restaurant with her male date last Valentine’s Day and started crying, looking at the older heterosexual couples around her. “All the women in the restaurant were with these older, fat men that had just let themselves go. They were just being drunk b*stards. And then the women were sitting there, trying so hard just to look good. And they’re ignoring them the whole time. And I thought, ‘I’m not living like this. If I end up in a straight relationship, that’s fine — but I’m not going to be with f***ing slob guys who are watching p*rn, making all their girls feel ugly.”
She prefers drag shows to award shows: “Beyonce would never be down in the front row cheering on Katy Perry.”
On soul mates: “F***ing is easy. You can find someone to f*** in five seconds. We want to find someone we can talk to. And be ourselves with. That’s fairly slim pickings.”
[From Time]
Again, Miley is promoting her Happy Hippie foundation with this feature. She means well, but the message gets lost in her rambling words and desire to sound outrageous. When discussing gender stereotypes, Miley fell into a weird story about crying at a restaurant because straight men “just let themselves go” and ignore their women. She’s guilty of drawing her own stereotypes too.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & Miley Cyrus on Instagram
Well this is one way to get press.
so females are girly, and you have to be a macho ass to be a man. What the hell with the black and white stereotypes? I guess we are all gender fluid then, huh miley?
Exactly!
“when I was with a girl, I felt like, ‘Oh sh*t, she’s going to need someone to protect her, so I’m going to need to have this macho energy.’”
That is pretty insulting to women. She thinks women need to be protected by whomever they are dating?
Her exacting definitions of gender roles are bizarre..men watch porn while women dress up and sit on the sidelines.. and she does a disservice to those with real sexual identity issues by putting herself in the mix for the shock effect she hopes it will get. She’s fluid–she fluctuates between frog-voiced fame ho with clothes and frog-voiced fame ho without.
What “bored blond” said…precisely, exactly, spot on. Why doesn’t she just go away. I’m “bored” with her.
That’s not the point of what she’s saying lol gender stereotypes have nothing to do with people being gender fluid.. gender fluid and agender also counts as trans. maybe you guys can understand the concept better that way?
Let’s face it she is just an idiot!
“That is pretty insulting to women. She thinks women need to be protected by whomever they are dating?”
No, that’s a misunderstanding. I am also bisexual and gender fluid. I have the same thought when I’m with a woman vs a man. Not because I think women are inherently unable to protect themselves, but because she’s talking about it within the context of what she thinks a girl wants from her, based on societal expectations and roles, and how it makes her feel in response.
What you’re projecting on other people is not “gender fluidity” but the natural confusion of human growth. Why do people assume that because they have confusion, they’re unique?
She’s a gender dumba$$.
“Gender dumbass” lol
Perfect description!
LOVE it! Can’t stand that woman.
Ok but I really don’t get how everyone in this site can be so amazing about Caitlyn and other transgender celebs and then so dismissive of any other non-binary gender. Yes she’s Miley and can get a little annoying but there’s nothing stupid about being gender fluid or non-binary. Gender, like sexuality, for some people is a spectrum – they don’t feel comfortable on either end or they switch between or honestly probably a million different other combinations but WHO THE HELL CARES. There are endless reasons to make fun of Miley I’m sure but her gender and sexual identity really shouldn’t be one of them.
I didn’t make the original comment, but I do think it’s appropriate in this case–and not because of her gender and sexual identity, but because of the way she’s casually (and somewhat bizarrely) reinforcing negative gender stereotypes in an interview purportedly about not being stereotyped.
“because of the way she’s casually (and somewhat bizarrely) reinforcing negative gender stereotypes”
This exactly.
Exactly. Who cares. The people who seem to care are the ones who come up with all the special labels for themselves to describe normal feelings because those existing labels aren’t special enough for them.
*cough cough*
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HELL IS THIS GIRL BLATTHERING IN ABOUT?!
My GOD. This dummy needs more attention than a newborn baby.
And somewhere Liam Hemsworth heaves a massive sigh of relief.
^yup
Seriously, the only kind of fluid I want to think about where Miley is concerned is brake fluid.
Congrats to Liam for dodging this freaking fluid bullet.
This makes bisexual gender fluid people feel awful. We are’t freaky fluid bullets, sorry. I’m glad someone is speaking out that shares my experience, it feels nice to see myself represented somewhere in media.
Chuckle
Um, okay Miley. Sure. I’m paying attention to you.
What is her workout routine though? Her body is bangin’, and she’s obviously worked for it (or at least, her muscle tone would suggest that).
She’s on the Gender Fluidity Diet. Cocaine Monday through Wednesday and MDMA Thursday through Sunday.
lol I am going on that diet immediately.
You! You’re in big trouble with me, Missy.
😂😂 Did you see the video that got my Insta deleted? Please please tell me you did, because I can’t post it here.
Video got u kicked off insta? What did you do miss mimif?? Lol plz let this be good
WTF? You broke Instagram? I thought you just closed down your account. Now I’m mad cuz I never saw the video. Boo.
Just open up a new account so I can send you cat pics and tell you life stories and stuff.
I will get banned for life if I post it here, but it was so so good. I thought QQ was going to murder me and I woke up to about a hundred “I hate you for making me laugh” texts. I’ll make a new one and find you Picklez! Did you even get my last stupidly long DM?
No! I went to check my account on Sunday and clicked on the white boxie thingum and there was nothing there. I thought it was either me being IG-dumb or that IG was being cranky. Then I tried to send you pics of the parade that was going on right outside of my house and a video of the cats freaking out over 800 marching bands going by in 2.5 hours but when I sent it, it went to myself. Then I got angry and started throwing stuff and then I calmed down, smoked a couple bowls, ate 5 cookies, and got distracted by the cats again. Then today I IG searched you and saw that Mimifff was no longer and I got upset, until I found you here and yelled at you.
The End.
Create a new account. We have much to discuss, plus caaaaats!
Oh, and I need to see the NSFW NC-17 video..somehow….
Really? I think she looks way skinny, despite the defined muscles.
she has grown on me but her perspective on older heterosexual couples is skewed. she assumes that all the men in these relationships are slobby, drunk porny bastards and the women are just obsessed with staying good looking and being ignored. that is a very shallow view of a mature relationship and totally overlooks the individuals involved and the commitment and love involved in a long-term relationship where you putting up with each others idiosyncracies and ageing.
She does live in Hollywood. I imagine the proportion of these type of couples would be higher there.
She’s probably using her parents as a reference for older heterosexual couples. Have you seen them?
She’s not assuming and not saying they’re all like that, she’s describing what she saw in a restaurant
She’s describing her parents, obviously.
Oh shush
Except for the gender thing (which I have no experience with so I won’t comment), I actually agree with her on the rest. Drag shows are awesome and fun. Finding people who you really connect with and can talk to openly is difficult.
As for the hetero stereotypes, there’s plenty of sad ones out there to choose from. It’s sad to see couples that seem to have lost the spark long ago, or when one member is being deeply embarrassing while the other grins and bears it. The husband and wife who are long since tired of each other. And there’s a lot of them. This is where stereotypes come from. We don’t just pull them out of thin air. Gay couples haven’t been around openly long enough for us to apply that particular stereotype to them, but I imagine it would be the same because people are people. Sometimes we don’t chose the right mate and sometimes we get sick of each other.
“Gay couples haven’t been around openly long enough for us to apply that particular stereotype to them”
yes, its a people thing, not a sexuality thing.
some people dont really understand what equal means, it also means the bad sides. like people were shocked when there was a big wave of gay divorces. well of course, lots of gay couples married because it was something new and it was generally an uplifiting mood around the whole thing, of course there are going to be people who wouldnt stay married for long.
It’s not just the hetero stereotypes, it is the gender stereotypes that she keeps repeating that I can’t support.
In another article, she had said something along the lines that she doesn’t identify as female because she isn’t prissy and she doesn’t identify as male because she isn’t macho. Honey, not all women are prissy! You don’t have to be a girly-girl to be female. We are so much more than that.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the people who rant about labels, how they’re bad, they don’t fit them, etc.,…well, those people come up with a long list of labels to put on themselves. Just to describe random feelings.
Exactly.
Miley would judge hard anyone who doesn’t match her psycho free bird way of living even if they were more open-minded and enlightened than her.
She’s going full Tumblrina. Ever look at the bios on there?
“I don’t like labels. People should be free to be who they want without labels.”
Goes on to list all their identifiers: gender fluid, gender-this, gender-that, demi-this, demi-that, pan-this, pan-that, otherkin, wolfkin, deerkin, pokemon,kin kin this and that, tonight I saw stars and thought they were pretty, so now I’m a galaxy-kin, blah blah blah.
OMG this^! People and their free to be me and whatever I want don’t label me! crap, but are gonna get all pissy with you if you don’t refer to them specifically as a binary-cis-pan-neutral-fluid-spectrum-species-cross-deviated-wonderkin.
Just be whoever it is you’re going to be and get on with it.
It seems like she just makes things up as she goes along.
No, she just identifies as half-naked and stoned all the time.
When you’re done, sweetie, tidy up the kitchen, K?
Loves it OG!!
You know, this new “identify” catchphrase is really starting to catch on. I “identify” myself as “The Greatest Thing Ever” Thank You
Why anyone would look to Miley Cyrus of all people for advice or wisdom is beyond me. Being a famewhore doesn’t mean she has two brain cells to rub together… celebs should have to pass IQ tests before these types of interviews.
That would eliminate a lot of celebs. And the idiots who love them wouldn’t have anything to read.
Oh Miley. Just…..ssshhhhhh….*pats pretend Miley on the head*.
LOL
I think I kind of get what she was saying for the most part. I find the idea of consciously shedding any gender identity kind of cool …
Has Goop heard about conscious un-gendering yet?
Clever.
Does she realize that many people don’t even think about it much but just live? She seems fixated on drugs and sex. Also seems fatphobic. Her bigoted statements about the older guys out with their wives seems totally based on them “letting themselves go”. Maybe their wives would rather have a companion than a guy always “working out”.
I’ve been blaming such things on her youth, but I know I wasn’t anything like her in any way at her age. She’s still seems so anxious to prove she’s grown up and no longer working for The Mouse. Shouldn’t she be over that by now? I suppose we should wait to see how she is in her late twenties. She should be comfortable in her own skin (hopefully clothed) by then.
So thirsty.
“On soul mates: “F***ing is easy. You can find someone to f*** in five seconds. We want to find someone we can talk to. And be ourselves with. That’s fairly slim pickings.”
That’s actually a pretty intelligent observation and something a lot of young people don’t get. Too bad she had to cloud her message with inanity.
Yeah, I kind of wish she’d calm down a bit. She’s so hyper that she does a huge disservice to her message, whatever it happens to be at the time.
…Are people my age that stupid? Or am I just hanging around an intelligent crowd? I’m a young person and I can assure you that most people younger than me feel the same way and understand that. Some of them know but don’t care because that’s not their focus right now. MC lives in a world of shallow, lowered expectations where getting out of bed, working out, and posting on instagram is considered a workday for her. Yeah it’s probably a good observation for her crowd, not for us plebians.
i was interested in reading how she would explain being gender fluid but it really was only about stereotypes. instead of changing the perception of gender roles she actually enforced them with her “macho men protecting weak women” even if she loathes both.
I’m a bird
Just no…. girl you are not right. She talks about stereotypes and macho men and then poses naked….I think I dislike her more than the Kardashians. At least they aren’t trying to pretend to be deep. They are what the are.
I can’t agree there. Miley has talent and that is something the Kardashians don’t have.
what is miley’s talent? ive heard her sing unenhanced and it sounds like it is coming from one nostril.
Miley just needs to stop talking. Just stop. She can be as well meaning and supportive and set up all the foundation she likes. These are completely wonderful things.
Then she opens her mouth.
And poses nude!
Anyone else think she loves shocking people just to get attention. She is a papwhore and she loves it!
I don’t understand the criticism here. I am exactly like that, I don’t identify myself as a male or female but as an individual. I don’t go around thinking – “I am girl”, I think “I am a person who has value”. My gender doesn’t define my life , other than my ability to give birth, Otherwise, I do what I want to do as a person,
My issue is that she’s using very narrow stereotypes to define what is male and what is female: male is macho, female is prissy. That’s reductive and makes her statements about gender fluidity seem silly, since she doesn’t seem to understand that male and female encompass more than that.
Do you feel the need to view others in gender roles you’ve assigned them? Miley does.
It’s probably not a popular opinion here, but I think she’s a great singer. When she’s not trying to shock people with her on (and off) stage antics and she’s just singing? She’s amazing. I watched an installment of her Back yard Sessions where she was singing “Don’t Dream it’s Over” with Ariana Grande (I know, I know) I thought she was great. She was flirting with Grande the whole time, which for some reason I found endearing. I don’t even know why. Maybe it was because there was nothing remotely sexual about it, just cute little compliments.
Jeeebus, I sound like a super fan. I find the things she does that are meant to be shocking cringeworthy, but she’s grown on me a bit.
I pay attention when Miley sings. I *love* Miley’s singing. It’s all this other ridiculous attention-seeking crap that detracts from her incredible vocal talent. She has a unique gift that spans musical genres.
She’s just rich, young and dumb and she needs to stop taking drugs. She needs people around her to tell her “No”.
Boom! ^^ That.
That rib cage is gender fluid. Emaciated looks the same on men and women.
Nothing about her is authentic. She’s like that girl in high school who comes back every Sept with a new “look”
Whatever. She’s another one that claims to be so open minded and free blah blah blah and really all she’s doing is collecting a bunch of labels and ascribing them to herself. Just like diversity is about collecting a bunch of different groups and putting them together in one big one circle without integrating much at all.
She’s dumb, vulgar and hungry. A bad combination.
Sums it up nicely-thank you
First she was trying to be black then punk then trashy ho bag back to punk to genderqueer(?), now to gender fluid?? She needs to have a everlasting back seat and shut the f**k up!!!
People who are long term married should still make an effort to appear attractive to their partner, which is what I think she’s trying to say. If one person tries and the other has given up.
Yeah, but why cry over it? That seems like an over reaction to something some of us have noticed a long time ago.
OMG I’m soooo over this!!!!! “Don’t put a label on me…blah blah blah.” Well guess what America I’m gender straight so put a label on me.
I wonder if she said to Liam “Okay so things are going to go like this now, Im trying to get as much (negative) attention as possible”
He must be so happy he jumped ship right before the crazy volcano erupted.
Seems a bit hypocritical, shallow and narcissistic to me. You think you’re the only person who doesn’t fit a stereotype, Miley?
She’s labeling herself as someone who doesn’t want to be labelled.
And at the same time goes out of her (it’s?) way to look like such a sexy young thang.
She’s about as educated on these topics as someone smoking too much surrounded by people who pseudo intellectual non-sense can be. She has a concept, but lacks the full understanding of it. And that’s made crystal clear by how she exists.
Her heart is in the right place, but she can’t put aside flaunting her gender and trying to appear shocking. As a result all her worthy causes take a back seat to her need for attention.
To sum.. Miley is your average rich, 20 something who’s parents became her friends ages ago. She just seems so lost to me.
This is a perfect summation of how I feel about Miley.
Beautifully put.
She’s trying to appeal to the Tumblr crowd. Marketing 101.
Attention seeking at the expense of people who really are gender fluid..
I don’t understand why I should take anything this uneducated fool who has breakdowns over fish, makes fun of mentally ill people, hating stereotypes while promoting stereotypes has to say.
Being bisexual and occasionally dressing as a baby butch doesn’t make you gender-fluid. You still present yourself as female 100% of the time. Gawd.
I won’t debate or dissect what she said, because she is an idiot. These are the voices of the younger musical generation? I have a massive migraine. Instead of her pseudo-intellectual ramblings and ad nauseum nudity, why doesn’t she sit down, really become well-read, and learn how to write her own songs, learn an instrument, since she depends on others to write her music? Often she gets to stamp co-writer on some of them with like five, six, seven other co-writers on the songs, but that’s the typical bull of some of these pop stars that don’t write music but want some credit to give them “artist” cred. These days it takes a village to write each of her songs. Pick up a book, Miley, a newspaper, something.
i don’t mind it or what she’s saying… i do wonder if i asked someone her age (I’m 40) if they’d say oh no i get it and don’t mind the naked. To me the naked is fine but the tongue outrage is played and it just makes me think outrage for outrage sake is plagiarism. Feels like a costume. I don’t need her clothed to hear but i need her focused and connected and not everything needs to be prolithic. I get the same issue from Kristen Stewart and Raven Simone. You’re not running for president so let’s just talk one to one intelligently.
I have no big thing against nudity (I was a huge Madonna fan until a few years ago), but she is pulling the nudity photos for attention all the time, so often that it also is just so played, just as much as the tongue. At least Madonna had intelligence in her interviews and amazing artistry in her music videos and could help craft some amazing songs and her concerts were brilliant. Miley has become just a high mess with her blather of nonsense because she never seems that intelligent and she’s strippng nude every few feeks on instagram and photoshoots it feels like. I think even most of her fans take what she says with a grain of salt, not as the pied piper of ideas and revolution like the Little Monster fans feel about Gaga.
Her gender may be fluid but her asshole self is solid. Shut up please.
Perhaps she meant genital fluid?
Her *sshole self is solid….best of one of post!
I found that cogent and honest, just inadvertently classist. There are a lot of fat slobs with women trying to hold themselves together… who hang out in expensive restaurants. She’s looking at a small segment of her society and judging it (correctly) to be pretty awful.
I’m bi-gendered and hypersexual so I’m with her on the rest. And I think if you’re disgusted by what she’s saying here or her itty bitty tiny ttties, it’s probably because you’re a prude. 😉
Tbh I’m more surprised by people who care this much how to define themselves.
Do you really look in the mirror and think “I’m bi-gendered” every morning? Don’t you pretty much just go about your business till you see someone you’re attracted to and then have a good time? Why does it matter what it’s called so long as you’re enjoying yourself?
It just seems so…desperate to define and be defined. Yay more boxes and terms and names! I’m sort of waiting till we’re past this point where everyone needs to explain why they are and what they like to when they just like and do what makes them happy without needing a thesis.
Appearance is a very shallow measure by which to judge others. Miley is in no position to judge any couple based on appearance.
She is what I like to call a “well meaning dumbass’
This is where Miley’s immaturity and yourhful lack of wisdom get in the way. She seems to think that women are a certain way and men are a certain way and she doesn’t particularly like either of those ways. It hasn’t occured to her that she can CHOOSE what kind of woman she wants to be (otherwise known as “being yourself”) without abandoning one’s gender. The problem isn’t that Miley can’t identify her gender. The problem is that Miley can’t identify Miley.
Yes, she can accept her physiology without worrying about fitting into gender role boxes. If she would get away from the Hollywood type crowd long enough, she would see how many people don’t fixate on gender roles but just do want they want, quietly and without fanfare. Everything has to be high drama for her. She just isn’t comfortable in her own skin yet.
Her statements just reek of bigotry on so many levels. But she can’t see that and thinks she’s very tolerant. But actually she’s tolerant of a very narrow range of people and is extremely judgmental based on appearance. If someone is “fat”, she doesn’t see anything else about them and she can’t imagine that their spouse loves them and enjoys their company. If they don’t dress like her or her friends, or don’t use her drugs, or don’t wear makeup her way, or don’t have her acceptable range of BMI values – they’re not worth knowing.
Exactly true, and yet, I can’t having a bit of sympathy for her. Look at her life thus far: as a young girl she played a Disney character that was one person in private and another in public. Here, art imitates her real life, except she has know clue who she is in private. Since shedding her Hannah Montana days, she has become the product of a whole new group of handlers, all seeking to shape and form her persona to their best financial advantage. She’s “on” so much that her off switch broke off. What is “fluid” about Miley is not her gender, but her understanding of herself. She’s young; it’s part of the process. What’s obnoxious is her making such declaratory statements and judgments about who and what others are when she hasn’t even figured out who and what she is.
I’m getting serious deja vu here… Are Miley and Raven Symone drinking the same koolaid?