Here are some photos of Kim Kardashian arriving at Heathrow on Monday. No, I still don’t understand why she keeps pouring her pregnant body into too-small clothing, nor do I understand why we need to see her boobs falling out of the dress. Kim is still trying to be a butt-covering ninja, wearing long, bulky coats with her ensembles and driving up the price of any profile or full-backside shots. How long can it last?!
Kim was tweeting and Instagramming a lot the past few days, and she ended up confirming that she’s not actually at 20 weeks along. She wrote: “Went to the Dr today for a check up, guess I was off on my 20 week mark by a week or two… But not the 20 lbs LOL.” She also used her Instagram for some kind of shilling/advertising for a cure-all for morning sickness? This is what she wrote:
OMG. Have you heard about this? As you guys know my #morningsickness has been pretty bad. I tried changing things about my lifestyle, like my diet, but nothing helped, so I talked to my doctor. He prescribed me #Diclegis, I felt a lot better and most importantly, it’s been studied and there was no increased risk to the baby. I’m so excited and happy with my results that I’m partnering with Duchesnay USA to raise awareness about treating morning sickness. If you have morning sickness, be safe and sure to ask your doctor about the pill with the pregnant woman on it and find out more www.diclegis.com; www.DiclegisImportantSafetyInfo.com
Diclegis does have FDA approval (since 2013) and you can read more about it here. Since I don’t have a dog in this hunt, let me throw the question out there: would you take a pill for morning sickness? Even if it was FDA approved and prescribed by a trusted doctor? Hm. And would you promote the pill on social media?
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet, Instagram.
Hell no! Having a baby is a huge deal, you must try to protect the baby’s health above all. women all planet earth have been giving birth for centuries and morning sickness comes with the territory. I had severe morning sickness with my 2 pregnancies, ate some crackers and went to work feeling like crap every single day. This woman doesnt even have a job! The cash cow just keeps milking more and more products, God knows IF she is really taking those pills or if she is just taking the $$$$ and promoting something that shouldnt be out there.
ITA!
I’m pregnant at the moment and morning sickness and in my case evening sickness was horrible but I knew what I was getting myself into. Pregnancy is everything but selfish, as almost everything you do is to keep that little human inside you healthy!
I am pregnant and had nausea day and night for months. It finally got better far into the second trimester. The Kardashians are poisonous and Kim Kardashian is the most vapid and self absorbed pseudo celebrity out there. Yes, her “celebrity” status is real and she can turn s&@t into $, but she has no substance whatsoever – it’s all make up, fillers & $$$. How irresponsible to push drugs on pregnant women!!! I am confident someday down the road, we will look back and wonder “how the f$&k did that happen”? How did anyone in that family got any notoriety for being talented at nothing? Go away, please go away…
Well, shouldn’t you protect the mother’s life equally at the very least???
I don’t plan on having kids but a stomach flu turns me into the worst version of myself. I have a pretty high pain threshold but nausea makes me want to die. So I have no idea what morning sickness feels like but I suspect I’d suck at enduring it. Not sure if I would take meds, it really depends on the severity. Having said that, celebrities shilling for drugs is gross to me.
And how did she gain lbs 20 with “pretty bad” morning sickness? I’m genuinely curious because I know two women who had it for weeks during their first and second trimester and could barely gain weight until it was over.
ITA – a woman shouldn’t have to give up her quality of life. If a pill helps the pregnant woman and doesn’t do anything unwanted to either her or baby, go for it. If a pregnant woman wants to handle it on her own with no meds, go for it. How she handles her own symptoms of her own pregnancy is of no concern to anyone except her and her doctor, and has absolutely no effect on anyone else’s life (so the judgment can stop – a woman taking an anti-nausea pill really shouldn’t be ruining your day).
I don’t have kids either, and the symptoms of pregnancy just terrify the crap out of me. I wouldn’t be able to handle any of it because I am someone who can’t stand any form of discomfort whatsoever – I will start to get table-flipping-angry if the tongue of my tennis shoe shifts to an uncomfortable position. I definitely, no doubt in the universe, would take any pill whatsoever that was safe and actually helped any discomfort.
No I would not. But then again, she’s not pregnant so…..
If she had Kate Middleton level of sickness than I would take it. Most doctors are hesitant to prescribe anything during pregnancy unless ABSOLUTELY necessary.
And I’m wary of anything hawked on social media let alone by a Kardashian
Uhhh…I suffered HG for six months of my pregnancy and without constant Zofran I probably would have been dead. I was barely eating and throwing up bile and blood and constantly in the hospital. But cool, let’s not worry about the mother’s life in this situation.
I think we should distinguish between “wah I don’t feel good!” and being so sick it reaches dangerous levels. There is a big difference, and unfortunately there are plenty of women who demand relief from the former without considering the potential consequences to the developing fetus. You, obviously, fell into the latter category, the category these drugs were developed for.
Hear hear. I switched doctors because the nurse told me there was nothing they could do to help my morning sickness but I should just sit tight until I hit 12 weeks and it would go away. I had spent three days not keeping water down and the morning sickness went away at week 20. I lost 15 lbs in those 1st 20 weeks. The first thing the new doctor did was prescribe Zofran or Phenergen (sp?) for morning sickness. They were both an absolute godsend. I also took Unisom and B6 to fight morning sickness. I would be wary to try something just because Kim Kardashian swears by it but I also know there are times when crackers and ginger tea just don’t cut it.
Look, obviously the health of the baby should be a priority, but let’s not get all #mommymartyr here. This drug has been used in Canada and Europe for decades, no evidence that it has any impact on the baby. It was pulled from the US market in the 80’s, not because there was any actual EVIDENCE, but because a few lawsuits got started and the manufacturer decided it was just going to be too expensive/high risk to continue marketing the drug. It’s a combo of vitamin B6 and antihistamines. I don’t know about you, but when I called my dr. about morning sickness they strongly recommended I start taking B6 tablets, plus an OTC sleeping aid (Unisom) at night…which it turns out is basically a DIY version of this drug. No, I did not have HG levels of morning sickness, but I was feeling so awful it was difficult to function and making myself eat/drink was a serious struggle–I felt like EVERYTHING was going to make me feel ill. Frankly, if, after decades of use in developed countries, there is no evidence of a link to birth defects, then I’m not too concerned. B6+Unisom (essentially what Kim is promoting) have helped me TREMENDOUSLY in terms of being able to eat properly, get my ass into work each day, etc.
@Dani and Cleak and Jenna
Yes!
I was initially prescribed Zofran
But after severe vertigo incidents 3 diff docs AND and my best friend who is a midwife ALL suggested Diclegis. It is a type A drug so it’s safe for baby. Additionally while on the west coast I ran out and another doc at my practice said Unisom and b6 is a great substitute for Diclegis until I can get back home.
While I really detest KK, I find it deeply disturbing that anyone would judge a pregnant woman who takes something to help her not just function but thrive. I’m at 13+ weeks and have already been to the ER twice so far- once via ambulance. The nausea was no joke. And the vertigo is terrifying and comes out of no where. You CAN NOT protect the baby if the mom is not protected as well. Do some research. Diclegis is better than Zofran, safer too.
Additionally a good friend just got listeria a few weeks ago and 2 days ago she lost her baby at 24 weeks. My friend came close to dying as well.
We are up against so much and often forget how many moving parts and pieces are involved in having a healthy baby (luck being part of it too).
I am the last person to defend KK
I just want other celebitches to know that this kind of sickness is real and taking something is sometimes necessary.
@StormsMama; We are not judging women who help themselves stay healthy in pregnancy. With her, we have no proof whatsoever that KK actually took these drugs because every single one of these women lie through their teeth, and I wouldn’t believe a word they say. I’d bet money she hasn’t used this product.
This makes me cringe. I haven’t heard of this drug, but I would not put anything in my body that wasn’t completely necessary. Zofran is considered the “safe” one to prescribe pregnant women. My pharamasict took this during her precnancy last year because her and her husband (an ER doctor) both thought it was safe enough. Her baby was born with a pretty bad cleft palate, and although they don’t know the exact cause, they highly suspect it was linked to the Zofran. My boyfriend is also a doctor, and says the Zofran is pretty commonly prescribed but there is definately a growing link between it and cleft. I just don’t feel good about the promotion of a pregnancy drug from someone who is obviously not educated in medicine.
Zofran is Class B, Diclegis is Class A. You’re safer with Diclegis
Re Kardashian. There’s a lot more to this story than meets the eye.
When Pharma Use the Defence of the FDA
http://fiddaman.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/when-pharma-use-defence-of-fda.html
Diclectin and the Redacted Adverse Events
http://fiddaman.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/diclectin-and-redacted-adverse-events.html
Is It Just Kim Kardashian on the Duchesnay Payroll?
http://fiddaman.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/is-it-just-kim-kardashian-on-duchesnay.html
Duchesnay’s Payments to Bendectin “Expert”
http://fiddaman.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/duchesnays-payments-to-bendectin-expert.html
I’m sure there are women who really, truly need this medication. She is not one of them, which makes this shill pretty damn gross.
Should we be mad at the player or the game? The United States is one of few countries that allows Celebrities to endorse pharma. I think that is wrong.
We know who Kim K is but she should have ‘paid advert’ on this instagram which is what her mother did.
I agree, Denise. I think medications should only be advised by a doctor, not made “hip” by a celebrity. Seems weird and unethical to me.
Notice that she says she’s partnering with the company just to raise awareness of the cure for morning sickness, as though she’s doing it out of the goodness of her little heart. No mention that she’s actually getting paid. People freely recommend things on the net all the time with no compensation, no need to “partner” with the company if she were doing it for free. And yes, it should be marked as a paid ad.
I am 20 weeks and my provider offered me Diclegis at 8 weeks. It is hella expensive, $90 with federal insurance, so she gave me an alternative. It’s 10mg of Unisom and B6. I have heard great things about it, but it makes you sleepy. I have stuck with good old peppermint.
Yes, exactly. She’ll do anything for a few bucks
DITTO.
I am a very crunchy gal. I wanted to have a perfect pregnancy – LOL- and BAM HG came in at 8 weeks. After days and days of feeling miserable and ending up in the hospital for dehydration, my Dr told me he understood my no-medicine mentality BUT that I absolutely needed to do something about it otherwise I wouldn’t be able to sustain a healthy pregnancy.
I reluctantly took Diclegis.. and it helped. 80% I’d say. Anyway, I was seriously depressed by the condition – it really was the hardest thing I’ve gone through. No relief -until I cave in-: constant nausea, day and night. I follows you, it haunts you, you can’t drink you can’t eat and nothing you can do makes it go away. I was going bonkers. Well I took the medicine and after felt SO GUILTY. I always thought I could do anything for the sake of my child. Suffer the most pain, go through the worst times. And I wasn’t even “capable” of going through this without medication. I know it’s not my fault, but it made me depressed even more. Anyway, all of that to say that THIS is was infuriates me: this. woman. did. not. need. it !!!!!!!!!! how could she squeeze into effin spanx, full of make up, travelling all the time.. NO. when you’re this sick you need medecine, YOU LITERALLY WANT TO DIE AND IT SHOWS.
Now ppl are judging her – appropriately- along with thousands of women who GENUINELY need the medication. This was for her comfort as she must have felt barfy a few times. Now this makes me sick again. BLAH
AND THEN THERE’S MAUDE….Bea Arthur used those long ass jackets to cover her behind, too! (yeah, I watched Maude, I’m old)….I have to give the girl credit, she could turn dog shit into $$$$$.
LOL! A show from my childhood. I was shopping yesterday and came across something that made me laugh because it looked like something Maude would wear.
Hey, I remember Maude too. So don’t feel too old. I also graduated HS in the mid 1980’s.
You know what I also remember? My Granny having the exact same sunglasses, as Kim is wearing too.
Granny wore them when she came out of the eye doctor office. The ones the doctor made you wear… because of the drops he used during the checkup.
And now some designer is selling those big ugly clunky looking shades, for hundreds of dollars.
I had severe morning sickness with all four babies- so severe I lost weight and was hospitalized for non stop vomiting. I did not take any medication with the first three but did with my last because it was so awful. The doctors assured me it was a class A drug, meaning known to be safe with pregnancy. I took it the whole pregnancy and it helped a lot (except this time I gained a ton of weight!). Baby was strong and healthy like the others. If I had listened to my doctors the first three pregnancies instead of freaking out about taking anything while pregnant I would have saved myself a lot of misery. But i still would only have taken a class A drug
Here’s the difference between you and her – you were hospitalized because of your morning sickness. To me that would be when the doctor would prescribe the drug. Kim’s morning sickness, if she had any, was not that bad. She is traveling and constantly on the go. I don’t believe she needs ity not does she take it.
You’re right actually. I fought so hard against taking anything but it really had gotten to the point where it was wrong not to try something because the baby needed food. You’re absolutely right about the difference. I guess I just have knee jerk empathy for morning sickness bc of what I went through.
This is exactly me (except I stopped at two babies). If I had seen this when I was pregnant, the Kardsashian association would have actually made me LESS inclined to take it, no matter how awful I felt.
This made me laugh out loud. And you’re right.
I would stay away from all morning sickness pills. I took Bendectin when pregnant with my older son, thankfully only for a short time. He is healthy but has a poor auto immune system. Later on it was discovered Bendectin caused birth defects. Sometimes they don’t find out the effects of these medications until people have been using them for a while. I really wish she wasn’t pushing this Diclegis. I believe Bendectin was thought to be safe too.
Yes, my mother took a morning sickness pill when she was pregnant with my brother. It was considered safe, until they found out it caused infertility in adult men. Not judging anyone who needs it and takes it, but I would be afraid to. And the fact that she’s shilling it wouldn’t calm my fears. At all.
This is what I’m afraid of. I don’t feel like a pill with a couple years on the market is long enough to discover every possible side effect.
This drug has been on the market (in Canada) for decades. ZERO evidence that it causes birth defects or other problems. Bendectin is basically the same as Diclegis and was never found to be unsafe…the manufacturer just pulled it from the US market b/c there was too much risk from sue-happy Americans.
Also, given how high profile Kim K’s pregnancy is, I do think her doctor would think twice about prescribing a drug if they didn’t feel very confident that the risks were minimal–you know if that baby comes out anything less than perfect she has the resources to sue you until there’s nothing left to sue.
I do think it’s ridiculous that she is shilling it, but I don’t think she’s being irresponsible or a bad mother for taking it.
It’s done some unpleasant things to mice. I would not take this drug.
Actually women who took it in conjunction with a certain class of anti-depressants had some extremely unpleasant side effects, but that’s not exactly mentioned anywhere. HuffPo had to dig up that little tidbit….
Lots of drugs have interactions with other drugs. Some herbal (“natural”) medicines have drug interactions. Given that it is a prescription medication one would hope that a woman’s doctor would be aware if there was a possibility of interaction with other drugs and advise accordingly. Just because something has side effects for a specific subgroup of people (women on anti-depressants) doesn’t mean it should be completely unavailable.
Humans are not mice. Things can be safe in mice and work horrors in humans, so don’t base anything on what happens to mice. They are one of the lowest tiers on the levels of drug safety testing.
Jenna
Benedectin was found to cause birth defects and pulled from market- it was a combo drug.
They introduced DICLECTIN which has been used for decades, is Class A, completely safe. It was the Ben portion of bendectin that caused the defects.
DICLECTIN in Canada is the same drug as this Diclegis in the U.S. Antihistamine plus B6.
I used DICLECTIN and it helped so much
For a celebrity to be pushing drugs like this on expectant mothers is really unethical.
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Ick, the shilling is yucky.
In addition to being vile, it just seems so desperate. I think she’s really losing it – shilling for some drug she is likely not taking is pathetic. Having her hair and make-up done for hours and then making an ugly fish face to promote a drug is just sad. Even having a child is a profit-making venture for her. I doubt she enjoys a single thing in life.
Although the main ingredient, doxylamine, has been prescribed for over 50 years “Studies of doxylamine’s carcinogenicity in mice and rats have produced positive results for both liver and thyroid cancer, especially in the mouse.[13] The carcinogenicity of the drug in humans is not well studied, and the IARC lists the drug as “not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans” I’d be leery to take it as a Mom.
Would I take a pill for morning sickness? Hell to the no. Why? One word: Thalidomide.
+100
YES!!! That’s all I can think of!
That’s all I can think of too- I’d never trust a drug, just in case. I didn’t even take anything for headaches when I was pregnant, just to be as clean as I could.
Yeah, that was how I felt. I got that sometimes medications become necessary and I don’t fault women who take them, because being sick sucks. But knowing about Thalidomide made me resolve to try absolutely EVERYTHING ELSE before resorting to the drugs. That way if I did need to take the pills, I’d know I was totally doing the right thing and taking them as a last resort.
Weird fact: Thalidomide was never actually approved for morning sickness by the FDA – it was an off-label use that the drug was never actually approved for! But that didn’t stop doctors from prescribing it in droves (a lesson on doing your own research even if the doctor says its okay). It happened because Thalidomide was never extensively tested on humans – only rats. Turned out that humans metabolize the components of the drug differently than rats and that difference was responsible for most of the defects. Really supports the efficacy of animal testing, right?
I don’t think it was used for morning sickness in the US, period. It was in other countries, but the FDA actually withstood enormous public and corporate pressure to approve it, and thus greatly reduced the number of thalidomide tragedies in the country. Western Europe and Canada were particularly hard hit by it, and Canada was actually the last to yank it from the shelves. To this day, the FDA will not approve it for uses that other countries have, and when the FDA is pressured to approve drugs without proper in vivo testing, they pivot back to the thalidomide example as a reason not to.
Izzy: You are correct that it was never approved in the 60s (it actually is approved now, for very limited uses – I should have been clearer that I was speaking only about that time period, not it’s regulatory approval history overall.
ditto. It’s good to remember that everything that goes into your body, goes into the baby’s as well.
In a previous job I worked with a guy who was a thalidomide baby and he was born in like 1983, both he and his sister were born missing limbs. I was really shocked the drug had still been around that late.
Saltines. Keep them on your night stand s d eat 1 or 2 before you get out of bed. Don’t even move your head too much first. My grandmothers suggestion and it worked.
I’m sorry, but this advice is for a woman with ordinary morning sickness. I had HG so severely that I could not eat or drink anything, and ended up in the hospital, at only 3rd week of pregnancy, with severe dehydration. Without medical intervention I would have died.
Sure Saltines help some women. Some of us end up in the hosptial dehydrated and malnourished from round the clock vomitting. Unless you’ve been vomitting in that severity, you couldn’t fully appreciate the desperateness.
Add me to the list. Severe HG with both of my pregnancies. I threw up 5-8 times a day from 6 weeks until I went into labor. I went in to deliver my first below my pre-pregnancy weight, and I was not over weight before. Took Zofran for my second because I could just not go another 40 weeks of throwing up 5-8 times a day while holding down a job and caring for my family. I went in to deliver baby #2 at the same weight I was when I got pregnant, again I was average size (5’3″, 120 lbs.)
I did not have alcohol, caffeine, Tylenol, tuna fish, deli meats, or any of the things they restrict with you are pregnant but you can be damn sure I took the Zofran until my son was born at 41 weeks. Don’t judge.
Having said that, KK endorsing anything makes me give it a good ole side eye.
Ginger and honey works too.
I was on medication all through my pregnancy, and it was the least selfish thing I could have done. I am so grateful that I had access to it because without it my son and I both had a great chance of dying because I became dangerously dehydrated due to non stop vomiting. For 6 months of my pregnancy I was hooked up daily to an IV of zofran, which is a drug generally given to help chemo patients with their nausea. It was not without its risks (thankfully me and my son were both more than okay in the end), but in my case it was the only option because even recommended drugs did nothing for me. One of the worst parts of it for me was people telling me that they had the same thing and refused to expose their unborn child to harmful drugs because it’s selfish.
I don’t think Kim Kardashian’s experience is anywhere as severe as mine…but pregnancy is uncomfortable for almost everyone and that drug is approved. I don’t think a woman should needlessly suffer in order to approve she’s selfless enough to be a mother. Maybe her promotion of it will help erase the stigma.
People used to think thalidomide was ok and babies were born with terrible defects… animal studies have 30-40% traslation for human outcomes, they are not ultimately conclusive
I was wondering how Diclegis is related to Diclectin? Same med?
Probably related. I live in Canada, and had extreme HG & dehydration. I took Bendectin the whole pregnancy, and at the time (30 yrs ago,) my doctor told me it was one molecule difference in its chemical make-up to Diclectin. His own wife took it. He did say he couldn’t say it was 100% safe, but felt that it was a safe drug. (Of course that really doesn’t mean as much these days, knowing now how doctors are manipulated by big pharma.)For the first 3 months I was taking the full dose, and still a complete invalid & bedridden, had to go live with my oarents so my mum could take care if me. At about the 3 month mark, when the hormones levelled off, I started to feel better, and cut the dosage back significantly. From about 5 months on I felt great,mtaking one pill a day.
I do find Kim’s shilling of this drug despicable, though.
Oh brother, what is she? The new celeb spokesperson for this drug? *smh*
It must be nice to sit on your butt, take pictures and make my hey. Wonder what she’ll do for money when her popularity declines. We know it won’t be anything involving actual work
Because I was starting to suffer dehydration and severe weight loss, I was given diclegis. It was super expensive at the time, but it did the trick. I went from vomitting around the clock, to minimal nausea and vomitting maybe 2-3 times per day. It gave me the energy I needed to keep working and preparing for the baby. I would take it again in a heartbeat if I needed to. Also, my baby girl was born on time, healthy weight and no birth defects! She is 8 months old and just fine.
And yes, my doctor and I spoke at length about it. It was the right choice for me. I do not shame Kim for taking this one little bit!
I don’t shame her for taking it – I shame her for shilling.
This.
You might not, but a lot of the other posters on here are.
As I said in a comment below, Kim shouldn’t have thrown it out there the way she did. But it’s Kim…. we’ve come to expect the worst from her haven’t we?
She’s not taking it. If her morning sickness was that bad, she wouldn’t have gained 20 pounds. Kim needs to get her stories straight so they don’t conflict
I had bad morning sickness with both my kids, and was miserable. And I won’t judge anyone for doing what’s best for them and their baby. Sometimes women need to take meds just to be able to function and if you have another kid to take care of, be able to still be a mom to them. I think what bothers me is that the picture is so clearly an advertisement, with all the makeup and the way she’s holding the bottle, that it’s more an obvious money grab than it is an attempt to help other women and make it okay to take something to make you feel like you can be human again. This is an advertisement that’s all about her and nothing to do with the women that need it. And if she’s gained over a pound a week in the first 20 weeks, I really have a hard time believing that she used it herself.
ETA: I’m talking about common morning sickness in varying degrees that does not require medical intervention and is an annoyance not a health risk to baby and mother. Severe morning sickness and/or HG is completely different, that requires medical intervention, and at that point you’re probably in a hospital setting, working with a ton of healthcare professionals. At that point, you’re not sitting at your doctor’s office asking about a med you saw KK advertising on her twitter account and if it will work for you.
Okay for all the know it alls that act like some crackers are all you need, let me lay some truth down for you. I had two pregnancies that were complicated because of morning sickness. Yes we all know morning sickness comes with the territory but there are many pregnancies out there like mine where you are vomiting so much you cannot keep even water down. That is not healthy for the mother or the baby. Diclegis is one brand of morning sickness medication. It works. Taking a pill once/twice a day is better for your baby than being admitted to the ER because you cannot get nutrients to your child. Telling a woman who suffers from morning sickness she just needs to eat some crackers is like telling a woman struggling with infertility she just needs to relax. If you are not her OBGYN you have no business telling a woman what your “advice” is to deal with real medical issues. Any of my friends who suffer from it I recommend Diclegis to them, yes over social media. That pill made my second pregnancy bearable and while I still would be praying to the porcelain god each morning till week 36, it made it so I would only have that occur once a day vs all day. Both my children are healthy and they nor I have had any negative affects from Diclegis. Research before your judge. Talk to a doctor.
I second all of this. I am pregnant now and was in between – not HG/hospital levels but definitely worse than “eat some crackers before getting out of bed” levels. “Morning” sickness has been all along and I’ve been taking the OTC version of this drug (Unisom and B6) since week 8. It has made a huge difference, I’m not throwing up 4 times a day (although I still felt terrible until week 17). My midwives assure me it is completely safe and I can take it throughout the pregnancy if I need it. Right now I try to go off it every couple of weeks and end up throwing up all day and feeling like I’m back in week 8.
I need to be able to function, I need to not feel like death for 9 months straight. My health care provider tells me its safe and decades of use in Canada also tells me it is safe. I would recommend it to friends and if KK can get the word out to women it is okay to seek relief for worse than average morning sickness, I won’t throw shade at her.
Well you would be throwing shade at Kim, not because of some pill she probably not even taking but because of this.
Sam says: July 21, 2015 at 9:22 am
She shouldn’t be promoting a drug without any context. It’s not just a “pill for morning sickness.” HuffPo did some more digging into it and it hasn’t been approved for women with extreme sickness, like Kate Middleton had. It also can’t be used by women taking certain kinds of anti-depressants because it interacts with them and can be potentially fatal. Those seem like salient points to mention, right? That’s my big beef with Kim – medications don’t lend themselves well to short advertisements, so she needs to quit promoting it as such.
ETA: Did a little more reading and, weirdly enough, this drug is a re-formulation. It was originally called something else and was withdrawn from the US market in 1983 after several class action lawsuits were threatened over allegations it caused birth defects. No conclusive evidence ever linked it to birth defects. It was renamed and re-introduced in 2013. Is that something that women considering it should also be told first? That’s the problem with celeb endorsements – they never tell the whole story.
Preach it @ Ms. D! Seriously-it’s amazing how judgmental people can be. HG is no joke. I’ve actually read about women terminating pregnancies because of it.
What are you supposed to do if you are so sick that you can’t work and you have to work in order to keep a roof above your head, a car on the road, etc? I don’t have kids and have only been pregnant once (miscarried early on and did not have morning sickness) but if I were in a situation where I couldn’t work because I was violently ill I would have no problem taking a category A (or possibly a B) medication.
Kim looked so much prettier in the Vogue cover picture yesterday where she was wearing minimal makeup than she does in this Diclegis ad.
I don’t have any problem with women taking meds for morning sickness, and would do so myself if necessary. (And it likely would be. I have UC.) But as someone noted above, one of the main ingredients is doxylamine. I take that as a sleep aid and, more often than not, it makes me sick to my stomach. So I probably wouldn’t be keen on taking this particular med…
I have and would, in the future, take pills for morning sickness. My kids are older and none were born with elbows growing out of their ears. Morning sickness is different for everyone, some can handle it well, some can’t. It even changes from pregnancy to pregnacy.
I’ve been pregnant twice, and I had bad nausea. Not like actual throwing up (which I could handle!). It was that sick, sort of sit in your stomach all day I kinda wanna puke but really can’t type of thing.
But my doctor made really clear that medications for it should only be used in the most severe instances. There are women who cannot eat or keep anything down, and that impacts the baby, since they are not getting any nutrients that way. Those women need medical help to eat and stay healthy. I did not. It passed after a few weeks. My doctor also mentioned that ginger, among other things, is often a lovely remedy for a lot of women. That seemed to work for me.
She shouldn’t be promoting a drug without any context. It’s not just a “pill for morning sickness.” HuffPo did some more digging into it and it hasn’t been approved for women with extreme sickness, like Kate Middleton had. It also can’t be used by women taking certain kinds of anti-depressants because it interacts with them and can be potentially fatal. Those seem like salient points to mention, right? That’s my big beef with Kim – medications don’t lend themselves well to short advertisements, so she needs to quit promoting it as such.
ETA: Did a little more reading and, weirdly enough, this drug is a re-formulation. It was originally called something else and was withdrawn from the US market in 1983 after several class action lawsuits were threatened over allegations it caused birth defects. No conclusive evidence ever linked it to birth defects. It was renamed and re-introduced in 2013. Is that something that women considering it should also be told first? That’s the problem with celeb endorsements – they never tell the whole story.
WOW! Really informative post. I wrote in my post a little further down that having a Kardashian removes all credibility from the product, but from what you’ve posted I now see that the product had little credibility to begin with, hence why they’re associating with Kim anyway.
It hasn’t been approved for a condition called Hyperemesis (Kate Middleton). It HAS been approved for extreme morning sickness (provided you aren’t taking other types of medications that would effect one or the other). Most likely this is because not all of the medical community can agree upon Hyperemesis as a condition at all.
I agree, she did just kind of throw it out there like no woman will ever have to suffer from nausea again. But, I’m really annoyed with everyone coming down on a perfectly good medication just because someone like Kim “shills” it. It is safe (CLASS A drug) and it was safe back then. I even spoke at length with my pharmacist about this when I picked the prescription up. The HuffPo does write things in ways that are more entertaining rather than just factual.
But HuffPo wasn’t lying about this. It hasn’t been approved for the most severe cases. It also can cause serious, potentially lethal side effects for women who take a certain, popular class of anti-depressants. That’s not a trivial thing – it’s something that should be told, up front, to any woman considering it. (The Drugs.com database linked to above lists 32 Major drug interactions for it). That’s not a minor thing. And there’s no such thing as a “safe” drug. There are drugs that are “likely safe” for each individual. But every one of them has side effects and risks. The question is whether you personally feel like the possible risks, tradeoffs and side effects are worth it to you to correct the problem.
IT HAS been approved for morning sickness (any type, severe or otherwise). It is not approved for Hyperemesis. There is a big difference. And yes, your doctor should be telling you about side effects if you are on other medications (which I said). No one is saying this is a minor thing. What I am trying to be clear about is that this medication was not pulled out of the production 30 years ago bc of side effects that are harmful (sorry for using the word “safe” earlier)… it was hysteria that would have financially ruined the pharmaceutical company that was producing it. That’s all.
I totally agree with you on the endorsement issue with Kim. 100%. I dont like that pharma companies advertise medications period. You don’t see that in other countries.
And for ancedotal evidence: I took this medicine myself bc I didn’t feel comfortable with Zofran (Class B). No side effects whatsoever. No drowsiness or anything. I just simply stopped being so damn sick and was able to keep functioning. My daughter is just fine.
Here in Canada we have the same drug, marketed as Diclectin. This product is a combination of Vitamin B6 and an antihistamine.
This drug is often very effective for the control of severe morning sickness, with no long term studies showing there to be a negative effect on baby.
There are many, many drugs that pregnant, and breastfeeding, women should I avoid altogether, all of the rest are looked at in a ‘risk-versus-benefit’ light.
In the case of Diclectin the potential risks of not taking the drug, should you have severe sickness, is that mom loses weight, becomes malnourished, sleep deprived, and anxious. These things can lead to a malnourished baby, pre-term labour, low birth weights, etc.
Do I think celebrity endorsements for medication are ethical? Absolutely not (in Canada there are very strict rules about medication advertisements and this is NOT allowed).
But is this medications safe, and (usually) effective? You betcha.
I didn’t need anything when I was pregnant with my daughter but I have two friends who bad, and currently have, horrible all day sickness. They both were prescribed diclectin and my friend who is currently pregnnt, she’s been on several different types and was hospitalised twice. Without these medications, they would have been in serious trouble.
When I was pregnant for my daughter, I had morning sickness (more like all day and night sickness) for six months. I would have never taken any drugs for it. If one is deathly ill with morning sickness (hospitalized) then yes take something to keep you and the baby healthy. otherwise, suck it up, buttercup.
She doesn’t have morning sickness, she has air sickness from flying all over the globe. She needs to sit her over-inflated ass down & take a rest.
This.
Diclegis has made my life bearable again. I was dropping weight and my throat was literally bleeding from all the throwing up I was doing. I don’t have weight to lose in the first place. It’s an anti-histamine that’s been around since the 40s and vitamin B6. The typical 10mg dose is pretty low and nothing like the doses administered in the rodent cancer research mentioned above. Also, if you’ve ever taken Nyquil or an over-the-counter sleep aid, you’ve taken the “scarier” of the two ingredients (doxylamine) at a higher dosage than what’s in Diclegis. I can’t really feel bad about taking it or even feel bad about Kim shilling it…even though it’s generally weird that pharmaceuticals get shilled at all.
+100 @shiny bubbles
It’s easy to tell someone to suck it up or that you would never take something. But after being hospitalized twice (and having a toddler to take care of) I can tell you it’s best to make health decisions that are best for you and your family and leave the judgey shaming out of it. It’s not anyone else’s place to tell a sick pregnant woman to suck it up.
The fact that it’s being shilled by Kim Kardashian is going to destroy the medication’s credibility. This was a bad move if the pharm company actually pursued her and asked her to do it. Isn’t her fanbase mostly teens? So who is she really appealing to? Teen moms? All around a bad decision to associate a Kardashian with a medication that is supposed to be taken seriously. Let’s not forget this is a woman who was shilling some magic potion diet BS that she was eventually sued over.
The fact that it is being shilled by someone who has gained 20 pounds in only 5 months is also a huge problem. If she’s really taking it, the doctor gave it someone with mild morning sickness, not the severe morning sickness that the drug is intended for. This isn’t for someone who is experiencing mild discomfort for a few months. I threw-up for 8 months and was not an appropriate candidate for the drug. This is for women losing weight, and losing it rapidly.
I completely agree! Very disturbing.
My nausea finally stopped two weeks ago when I was in week ten. I didnt take anything, just felt constantly tired, hungry and with no energy. Thank god I didnt puke but I still wouldnt take anything unless I cant hold food down AND UNLESS my doctor prescribes me smth really safe and verified aka in use for longer than 2 years..
Nevertheless, I wouldnt ever take any advice from THIS stupid woman. Im trying to skip as many articles as possible about Kim A$$dashian but this one just annoyed me really. I dont get when was she really sick with this severe morning sickness. Pictures or it didnt happen!
I found out im pregnant at 6 weeks and havent dyed my hair for 2 months now. Now this stupid bimbo who went platinum blonde when she was pregnant and now is administering drugs… *** Keeping my Zen, Keeping my Zen… ****
How much did she get paid to promote that on Twitter? Does anyone here believe she really took those pills? I don’t.
I doubt she took the pills simply because I doubt she had much morning sickness. Her public activities just don’t match up with her claims, as women who have dealt with it have pointed out repeatedly here.
But now we know why she bothered to lie about it – she wanted to shill for this company. She uses the social media to make money – she gets paid quite well to “mention” products and claim she uses them and recommend them to all her little followers. That’s why it’s worth buying some fake followers – the more followers, the more she can get as a shill (much like newspapers and TV stations can charge more for ads if they have bigger readership/audiences). Must have taken a while to set up the deal or else she would have talked about it before.
She’s done this before – shilled for products she quite obviously doesn’t really use herself. Liar, liar as always. Hopefully nobody gets hurt on this one (that’s happened, the Kardashians aren’t too choosy about the products they peddle).
I totally agree. Plus how many women with horrible morning sickness will get on a 12 hour flight to Paris and go shopping lol ??? Are we supposed to believe the pills work so wonderfully Kim was finally able to leave the house and go to Paris lol? This family is just too much !
If Kim was so sick she would have stayed her a$$ home instead of shopping all the time, daily Pap walks and flying back and forth from LA to NY.
She gets paid around $200K a tweet.
They used to give Thalidomide for morning sickness and it was deemed safe until babies started being born with severe defects like shortened or missing limbs:
“Thalidomide first entered the German market in 1957 as an over-the-counter remedy, based on the maker’s safety claims. They advertised their product as “completely safe” for everyone, including mother and child, “even during pregnancy,” as its developers “could not find a dose high enough to kill a rat.” By 1960, thalidomide was marketed in 46 countries, with sales nearly matching those of aspirin. Around this time, Australian obstetrician Dr. William McBride discovered that the drug also alleviated morning sickness. He started recommending this off-label use of the drug to his pregnant patients, setting a worldwide trend. ”
https://helix.northwestern.edu/article/thalidomide-tragedy-lessons-drug-safety-and-regulation
I wouldn’t take any drugs while I was pregnant. Not worth the risk unless it’s absolutely essential to treat something serious that the mother has. That’s my opinion. And I had super bad morning sickness with both pregnancies. I even threw up in my husbands lap in the car on the way to work one morning!
there haven’t been cases of any severe defects in children born of mothers who took diclegis. soooooo what does thalidomide have to do with this? the severe defects were noticeable right away.
My point is that just because it’s deemed safe right now doesn’t mean issues won’t pop up in the future that relate back to pregnant women taking it.
And of course the Daily Mail has side and rear views of Kim minus a long coat!http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3169461/Pregnant-Kim-Kardashian-opts-daring-low-cut-shops-Paris.html
Thought I’d share it with you 🙂
Well she does have a deal with the daily mail right? The outfit is not bad but I don’t understand why she needs to wear spanx while pregnant. Also, why shop in a high end Paris shoe store when you’re pregnant with swollen feet? Why wear high heels at that stage? I just don’t get it.
So I guess the fact that her first pregnancy was so problematic has taught her nothing. This moron is still flying all over the world. She should seriously just sit back and put her feet up instead of worrying about stuffing them into these heels, because she will likely have to deal with preeclampsia again, especially since she is carrying on the same way all over again. There is a good chance that those who have it once, end up with it again.
That butt in those pictures. Oh my. She is trying so hard to hide it this time around. I almost feel sorry for her. I get a major “Miss Havisham” vibe from her as she continues to gain weight yet desperately clings to her need to prove that she is beautiful and sexy. It strikes me as creepy; she can’t turn it off for even a few months.
Wait until she gives birth…she’ll be doing another nude shoot within months. She has to prove how much of a “milf” she is lol.
Well, I don’t want to defend a Kardashian and her promotion of this drug certainly makes it sound like she is shilling some sketchy miracle diet pill, but…jesus. there is so much sexism and misinformation in this thread i just had to comment.
people love nothing more than telling pregnant and breastfeeding women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. the truth is, diclegis — which is just the Rx version of unisom + vitamin b6 — is a legit medication for morning sickness. it was pulled from the market ~30 years ago because of hysteria (as illustrated in these comments) over the safety of basically anything while pregnant, after the whole thalidomide thing, but study after study could not demonstrate any harmful effects.
It is easy when you are not pregnant to say you would NEVER _____, but people who say these things reveal less about their actual willpower or stamina, and more about how easy their pregnancies actually were. When you are in the throes of your first trimester, it is a special kind of torture to be vomiting, losing weight, feeling like you have come down with the flu for 12+ weeks, and yet must keep it all a secret and continue on working and caring for older children all hunky-dory! And in some women, M/S is so bad that weight loss and dehydration are a serious concern that would certainly outweigh the side effects of medication.
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/fda-approves-return-of-dr_0_n_3041856.html
and just for fun: http://jezebel.com/5960255/how-to-have-the-best-pregnancy-ever
Sweet zombie jesus, it’s nice to finally see someone in this thread who isn’t pregnancy shaming.
Yes thank you!!!! Funny enough some people cited that exact same article to argue the opposite. It’s interesting how people interpret the same facts differently.
I took Diclegis. I wasn’t taking any other medications and was in bad shape. I declined Zofran because it was a class B drug. I’m fine, my daughter was and is fine. Everyone should just calm the eff down before they remove the drug again!
THANK YOU! The pregnancy shaming and “suck it up” has made me lose some faith in people’s ability to see outside their own lives. If you were vomiting 5-8 times a day for six months (my personal experience) and “sucked it up” good for you- but if you chose to take a Class A drug to help, good for you too. Shaming women and being holier-than-thou for doing something considered totally safe and actually BENEFICIAL for the ailing mother’s health, is ridiculous to me. I get shading the shilling, but not pregnant women who need the drugs. also- you have to have a prescription for this drug, so a doctor will determine it’s safety and necessity for use. Not anyone else.
Doctors also prescribed Thalidomide.
Not related to this morning sickness drug, can pregnant women get butt enhancing injections? In the DM pics she is wearing a light color clothes, those make you look bigger. Then when she wears black, she covers her derriere because black will make you look smaller. So yes, maybe she’s trying to hide her derriere because she cant get the fat injections, as many people say? That’s my take on that.
If you haven’t had HG and just had a few bad days of nausea then you should not weigh in here. Do you know what’s healthy for the baby? A mother who can drink water and eat a few hundred calories per day without violent, earth shattering, migraine inducing vomiting.
Except this drug is expressly NOT FOR HG. Read the Huffington Post’s article on this. This drug is actually not approved at all for HG – it’s for lesser cases, which is what some people are taking issue with.
I also took the unisom and B6 so that must be the first line recommended drug. What I don’t buy is that KK is suffering with extreme morning sickness. When I got pregnant the second time I could no way no how be running from airport to photo shoot and I certainly wouldnt have been snapping my self portrait and showing my bedraggled and exhausted looking face. I could barely make it to work-get up,throw up,splash cold water in face,grab taxi because I kept dry heaving on the bus,arrive at work and make a beeline to the restroom or garbage can before collapsing on desk.End of the day is the reverse concluded with arriving home and falling asleep with my coat still on. Worth it?Oh yea. (That fiesty fetus just got married to a wonderfull girl).I certainly do not believe that Kimmy has that going on.Maybe she is so pampered that any discomfort is exaggerated but it’s likely she was leading up to this pill shill.
It seems so bizarre and unethical that it’s legal to advertise medications in the US.
Early on in this pregnancy (39 weeks..ALMOST THERE) I got a horrendous sinus infection and had to take an antibiotic and Tylenol. I felt SO bad about it, but for me keeping a fever down was more important for my baby’s health. If she’s queazy which I suspect is the worst of it, suck it up Kim. If she’s violently ill and can’t keep water down (definitely not the case), then it’s important to see what’s available–however hocking a rando drug on instagram during pregnancy is just.. weird.
pics in daily mail you can clearly see below her boobs (on display as always) the top of the moon bump …..she is as pregnant as i am (and i had tube tied at age 30 😉 )
She probably read it as Dic*licious
…..Jeez, she’s shilling for an anti-morning sickness pill?? Lets hope its safer than Thalydimide.
I honestly don’t think she gained 20 lbs – I think she’s just wearing one Spanx (as opposed to the three she usually wears).
Kim is just effin crazy
Meh. I didn’t have morning sickness, but with my first son I had migraines so bad during my first trimester I almost dropped out of college. If my doctor gave me something he said was safe for the baby, I would have taken it. We’re talking laying on my bed in darkness, silence, with an ice pack on my head for HOURS. I imagine morning sickness can be just as miserable, so I’m not judging.
While I understand the ‘I’d never take any prescription meds for the safety of my unborn baby’. Women with significant lifelong medical issues also have babies. I am one of them….and getting pregnant was a multi-year process of weaning off some daily meds and developing a plan with my doc and specialists (none of whom said I should avoid pregnancy altogether). There was NO chance hubby and I could just throw out the birth control and hope we get pregnant. I used a very carefully choreographed medication treatment plan. Every month there was a different set of meds to take before ovulation, different meds after ovulation, and when I was fortunate enough to get pregnant…there were even more appointments with a high risk OB.
As much as I would have loved a “pure”/non-pharmacological pregnancy, it was just not medically feasible.
I am honored to be the mom of an incredibly healthy & intelligent little guy. I would have loved two kids, but that urge subsides when THIS is what pregnancy is like for you….and your baby.
No one but doctors and pharmacists should advise regarding pharmaceuticals usage.
And a rando comment — her eyebrows have looked wonkyweird for months: the hairs are brushed downward and trimmed. NOT flattering at ALL.
To those who doubt that nausea in pregancy is anything more than a nuisance for a few weeks – Diclectin (the Canadian version, which has been approved and widely used for much longer) saved my life twice. I’m not joking. I had horrendous nausea with all three pregnancies, in two the resulting dehydration and malnutrition that was life threatening when I vomited in convulsions that couldn’t be stopped except by stronger IV meds in hospital on every few weeks. Diclectin kept me more or less stable in between the bad spells. (Some would say I was crazy to have planned more pregnancies but no one believed it could ever be so bad again.)
I now support a thalidomide victims’ organization because I am so grateful that my babies and I had access to safe medication that made our lives possible. It breaks my heart that it wasn’t always this way, and that it still is for millions of women around the world. Without access to IV hydration, morning sickness can and does kill. Crazy but true.
Didn’t they say Thalidomide was safe for pregnant woman too? We all know how that panned out. At the same time, my girlfriend had such bad morning sickness she was hospitalized for a while. She was very sick and they were concerned about the fetus it got so bad. To each their own but I’d be worried about any prescription endorsed by KK.
She LIES!!! I bet she is not even taking the rx. Just selling it.
Thalidomide. Nuff said.
Someone elsewhere made an interesting observation: Kim is holding up the manufacturer’s bottle, not a prescription bottle. Not sure if it makes too much difference, since she already admitted to “partnering” with them (new term for shilling). But it does add to the suspicion that she herself never took it.