Taylor Swift discusses the ‘calculating’ label with GQ: ‘Careers take hard work’

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As we previewed last week, Taylor Swift got her first-ever cover of GQ for the November issue. The issue will be on newsstands October 26th, but GQ has just released their cover story. I have to give it to Swifty: she has a profound understanding of the various tiers within the media. She doesn’t give her really great, bitchy interviews to just any outlet. She saves them for the big ones, like Rolling Stone or Vanity Fair or GQ. You can read the full GQ piece here. Swifty chats about the real inspiration for “Bad Blood” (as in, she tries to say it wasn’t really about Katy Perry) and how it’s totally not her fault that people figure out who her thinly veiled blind-item songs are about.

What “Bad Blood” is really about: “You’re in a[n] interview, and the writer says, ‘Who is that song about? That sounds like a really intense moment from your life.’ And you sit there, and you know you’re on good terms with your ex-boyfriend, and you don’t want him—or his family—to think you’re firing shots at him. So you say, ‘That was about losing a friend.’ And that’s basically all you say. But then people cryptically tweet about what you meant. I never said anything that would point a finger in the specific direction of one specific person, and I can sleep at night knowing that. I knew the song would be assigned to a person, and the easiest mark was someone who I didn’t want to be labeled with this song. It was not a song about heartbreak. It was about the loss of friendship.”

Her blind item songs: “I’ve never named names, so I feel like I still have a sense of power over what people say­­­—even if that isn’t true, and even if I don’t have any power over what people say about me. The fact that I’ve never confirmed who those songs are about makes me feel like there is still one card I’m holding.”

What she thinks about being called “calculating”: “Am I shooting from the hip? Would any of this have happened if I was? … You can be successful for three or four years. Accidents happen. But careers take hard work.”

Confidence: “[T]o me, the safest thing I could do was take the biggest risk. I know how to write a song. I’m not confident about a lot of other aspects of my life, but I know how to write a song.”

Her self-awareness: “I used to watch Behind the Music everyday. When other kids were watching normal shows, I’d watch Behind the Music. And I would see these bands that were doing so well, and I’d wonder what went wrong… And what I established in my brain was that a lack of self-awareness was always the downfall… So self-awareness has been such a huge part of what I try to achieve on a daily basis. It’s less about reputation management and strategy and vanity than it is about trying desperately to preserve self-awareness, since that seems to be the first thing to go out the door when people find success.”

Whether she’s lonely: “I’m around people so much. Massive amounts of people… So then when I go home and turn on the TV, and I’ve got Monica and Chandler and Ross and Rachel and Phoebe and Joey on a Friends marathon, I don’t feel lonely.”

Creative license: “You take your creative license and create things that are larger than life. You can write things like I get drunk on jealousy but you’ll come back each time you leave, ‘cause darling I’m a nightmare dressed like a daydream. That is not my approach to relationships. But is it cool to write the narrative of a girl who’s crazy but seductive but glamorous but nuts but manipulative? That was the character I felt the media had written for me, and for a long time I felt hurt by it. I took it personally. But as time went by, I realized it was kind of hilarious.”

Taylor is nuanced: “A nuanced sense of humor does not translate on a general scale and I knew that going in. I knew some people would hear ‘Blank Space’ and say, See, we were right about her. And at that point, I just figure if you don’t get the joke, you don’t deserve to get the joke.”

[From GQ]

I actually haven’t finished reading the full story yet – it’s very long and my eyes are very tired from all the rolling they had to do to get through these excerpts, plus the fact that the story opens on Justin Timberlake calling Swifty on her cell and she sits there and chats with him for 15 minutes in front of the journalist. As for the rest of it… I do think she’s calculating, but if she was a dude, we would be using a different descriptor. I do think she’s hyper-self-aware and that’s not really a bad thing… except when it is. It’s a bad thing when she believes she’s the center of the universe, when her self-awareness becomes chronic narcissism.

As for the “Bad Blood” stuff… she’s absolutely full of it. Utterly and completely.

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  1. Luca76 says:

    She may not name names but when she leaves the room her publicist does.

  2. Samm says:

    If people don’t get the joke…. maybe you didn’t make a Joke…

  3. Allie says:

    I don’t understand how she can blatantly lie and no one will call her out on it. She didn’t just state that the song was about friendship, she had a story that specifically pointed to Katy Perry, which is why Katy Perry tweeted what she did. And all of her songs point to specific people, whether she leaves hints in her album notes, videos or interviews. Come on Taylor, just own it. And she has become so self aware of her image, she doesn’t even seem real anymore. She seems like a robot that doesn’t know how to let loose and have fun. And let’s be real, she wasn’t worried what Harry Styles would think, she was worried about his millions of fans that would bully her if she had a bad song about him. Haylor totally backfired on her. She said she was going away, why won’t she go away??

    • Daria Morgendorffer says:

      “I don’t understand how she can blatantly lie and no one will call her out on it. She didn’t just state that the song was about friendship, she had a story that specifically pointed to Katy Perry, which is why Katy Perry tweeted what she did. And all of her songs point to specific people, whether she leaves hints in her album notes, videos or interviews. Come on Taylor, just own it. And she has become so self aware of her image, she doesn’t even seem real anymore.”

      I agree with all of this. She gets away with a lot. As for someone being super self aware of her image and seeming really fake as a result, I feel the same way about Beyonce, and I remember the same thing happening to Mariah Carey as well. I think it just happens when a person gets famous to a certain point, they just lose all touch with reality and turn into this fake, manufactured personality.

      Taylor shouldn’t be anywhere near as popular as she is, because her slander of people is seriously messed up. Writing songs bashing people and airing out dirty laundry isn’t cool, and if it were done to her, she would act like a total victim. It’s just so unhealthy that she is obviously of the mentality that either you’re with her “clique” or you’re an enemy. She’s a twisted person. Katy Perry summed her up perfectly when she called her Regina George in sheep’s clothing.

    • Claudia says:

      Spot on, all of it!

    • pleaseicu says:

      She said she’s going to go away after the 1989 Tour ends in December. Yet it’s already been announced that she’s co-hosting the 2016 Met Ball. She’s not going anywhere. She doesn’t seem to know how to exist outside the validation and adoration of other people anymore.

  4. kcarp says:

    Her hair looks terrible. It reminds me of the 80’s when my mom thought it was a good idea to have my hair layered and short.

    • Rada says:

      Agree 100%. When it’s straight it looks like her thing or something she could pull off. But this, no one can pull this look off.

    • xxxxxxx says:

      This isn’t meant to be mean, but I always assumed she had bangs to cover some premature wrinkles she has on her forehead.

  5. xxxxxxx says:

    Of course she watches Friends.

  6. mia girl says:

    Look at her trying to duck away from her BS. SHE.IS.FULL.OF.IT.
    At least own your stupid feuds and your petty revenge song Swift.

    I went back to that Rolling Stone interview and this is what she said:

    “The angriest song on 1989 is called “Bad Blood,” and it’s about another female artist Swift declines to name. “For years, I was never sure if we were friends or not,” she says. “She would come up to me at awards shows and say something and walk away, and I would think, ‘Are we friends, or did she just give me the harshest insult of my life?'” Then last year, the other star crossed a line. “She did something so horrible,” Swift says. “I was like, ‘Oh, we’re just straight-up enemies.’ And it wasn’t even about a guy! It had to do with business. She basically tried to sabotage an entire arena tour. She tried to hire a bunch of people out from under me. And I’m surprisingly non-confrontational – you would not believe how much I hate conflict. So now I have to avoid her. It’s awkward, and I don’t like it.”

    (Pressed, Swift admits there might have been a personal element to the conflict. “But I don’t think there would be any personal problem if she weren’t competitive,” she says.)

    Swift is still talking about “Bad Blood” when she starts to explain why she wants everyone to know it’s about a female. “I know people will make it this big girl-fight thing,” she says. “But I just want people to know it’s not about a guy. You don’t want to shade someone you used to date and make it seem like you hate him, when that’s not the case. And I knew people would immediately be going in one direction—”

    • I Choose Me says:

      Thank you! Why lie though? Is she she hoping people won’t remember her Rolling Stone quotes?

      This is why I can’t with Swifty. I don’t mind her ambition but she tries so hard to control everything and wants everyone to like her and kiss her ass. She may be self-aware but she lacks perspective and is a complete narcissist.

      • Liv says:

        Who doesn’t on her level? Beyonce, Mariah Carey and Tmberlake himself come immediately to my mind.

        I think it’s good that she’s strategic and calculated when it comes to her career. I think it’s also a good thing that she writes music how she wants to and not how a record label forces her to do.

        I get that people don’t like her “image” or how she’s controlling it and she gets on my nerves with her attitude from time to time too. But seriously, she’s not that different from other celebritys or artists.

    • pleaseicu says:

      A bunch of people? It was like 2 or 3 dancers and they were in the early stages of rehearsals. Inconvenient, sure. But sabotage the entire tour? Please. And Taylor should really blame her attorneys who drafted a contract that allowed her dancers to quit with only 30 days notice and not include a non-compete clause in the contracts. IIRC all Katy did was announce a world tour and contacted all of her former dancers from previous tours to see if any of them wanted to join her new tour, not just only those 2 or 3 working with Taylor. It was the dancers who opted to quit. Blame them.

      “But I don’t think there would be any personal problem if she weren’t competitive,”–Not sure what she means here but it’s a horrible quote. Katy got with John Mayer and their dysfunction junction merry go round relationship was just to one-up Taylor? Or that Katy shouldn’t also capitalize on her album success and do a world tour while Taylor is touring? Either way, it’s apparently Taylor’s world and we just live in it.

      • Betti says:

        Its a small world for pro dancers and they will have worked with everyone. Back in the day Britney and Justin/N’Sync shared, you would often see the same ones turn up in videos, tours etc.. so i fail to see what Swift had a problem with. The dancers chose to leave her tour – their choice made of their own free will but i guess in Taylor’s world the only will to follow is her’s. Its obvs that she’s most offended by the fact that they went to Katy. Swifty likes to dish it out but can’t take it back.

    • tmc says:

      The thing is the reporter should have read enough of her major interviews to know the exact reference if he or she (sorry I have not gotten that far) was going to reference it. That is just lazy and how she (Taylor) gets away with it.

      Also, I was watching a clip of her she posted on Twitter (and I am not sure why I saw it) with a female singer I am not familiar with who she called up on stage. She is just so fake in her mannerisms that I dont get why she is a popular performer. Her songs dont seem to emphasize her voice in a way anymore that makes you think she is a good singer. Maybe that is pop music now.

  7. hmph says:

    Does she really write the music? Or just the lyrics? Because from what I’ve heard she can barely play the guitar. I would like to hear more from her about her songwriting process.

    • Daria Morgendorffer says:

      My dad is a musician and has been asking me this question, whether or not Taylor is actually a musician, for years because he obviously doesn’t follow her music. She has always been photographed holding these really amazing guitars, but there’s never been any clear evidence that she actually knows how to play them.

      She’s a phony.

      • WOR says:

        I hate to defend Taylor but even a lot of alt rock and indie acts don’t play their instruments well. I think people often assume pop stars are frauds and indie acts are legit but in every genre talent runs along a spectrum. I love Lydia Loveless and was surprised when she said in an interview she was told she should learn to play the guitar after she’d already started making records. And she’s still an acclaimed indie artist. I love her amazing voice and her lyrics. If her live guitar playing isn’t the best that’s fine (I’ve seen her do solo acoustic live and she played fine imo).

    • Emma says:

      A lot of singers write the lyrics and vocal melodies of their songs which is what matters most. Producers will often be responsible for the instrumentals. I remember watching a video of Kesha writing Love Into the Light at her piano. That instrumental didn’t make it onto the album which is a pity because her piano instrumental was far superior to the final album version. The acoustic guitar instrumental she wrote for Past Lives did make it onto the album version though. But mostly with pop singers any instrumentals they write aren’t used once the producers get involved.

      • WOR says:

        If Led Zeppelin didn’t write their own music it would be a big deal because the music is a huge part of what matters in their songs. A lot of pop songs use generic beats so it’s the lyrics and vocal melodies that take precedence. If a pop singer is mostly doing that, that’s all that can really be asked of them. Of course, many use writing camps for their hit songs but not for other album tracks.

        As amazing as a full piano version of Love Into the Light would sound to me it wouldn’t fly with most pop music fans sadly. Those are the limitations of making pop music.

    • verge says:

      Yes, she does write her own music. She even videotaped and recorded her writing sessions, as you can see in this Grammy interview about the making of 1989:

      https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/video/listening-session-taylor-swift-1989-part-1

      Note the audience of professional engineers and producers, who know exactly what goes on behind the scenes. This is her Grammy campaign, and no other pop singer out today has the credibility to do this.

    • Scotchy says:

      She co writes with Max Martin’s team. So yes she is responsible for the lame and childish lyrics but the orchestration around it all is Max Martin and various other superstar pop producers.

  8. als says:

    None of these issues are real problems for me in what concerns Taylor Swift
    The problem is that her voice is not at the level of her hype and she can’t dance. I would not pay money to see her perform.
    She would be an amazing producer and son writer but she would have a problem with being behind the camera.

    • Miss V says:

      I made the mistake of paying to see her perform… My daughter wanted to go see her or Ariana Grande. It was the lesser of the two evils. It was basically a singalong with Taylor Swift and her fans. She is completely awkward on stage (her movements are just weird) and her singing is borderline terrible. She had a LOT going on in the background and on stage to distract from this fact.

  9. Talie says:

    The piece sucked! This interviewer fancies himself an intellectual, using big words, but he doesn’t challenge her at all. Not once.

  10. pleaseicu says:

    Naming names would be more mature than what she does. Instead, she includes secret clues and descriptions in her listening sessions and album notes and interviews and authorizes her friends and publicist to lead her audience to the exact person she means. She passive aggressively does everything but name names so she can claim the moral high ground for not *directly* dishing on her exes.

    • antipodean says:

      Nobody would ever accuse this woman of being mature, but she is very business savvy in spite of that. More power to her, even though she grates on my last nerve. I have to confess I would kill for her legs.

  11. tacos and tv says:

    Hahahaha I just called Taylor Swift Bangs coy and calculating yesterday!! Not only can she add overexposed, calculating, behind the scenes mean girl, fugly bangs wearer, with a terrible album to her list of attributes, but also mind reader!!!

    She is too much. Where is my “Just stop” button??

  12. Mylene - Montreal says:

    Hard work ?! for me Hard work it’s work 9 to 5 … or work night shift like me and need to do extra hours to be able to pay for extra need … and after all of that i have nothing left in my bank account and i wait for the next pay. THIS is hard work …. She have : Assistant, lot of free stuff all the time, hotel life, car wait for her, bodyguard, chef, eat on the best restaurant, everything for made her life easy …. Work is not hard after that !!!

  13. Violet says:

    She changed her history because received backlash over her white feminism, heavily implying it was about Katy and profiting over it but still preaching about “girl power”, “girl squad” and how “women must support each other”. People just realized she’s a hypocrite and called her out. Taylor, love, you just made it worse now. Literally anyone can search the RS interview (much like someone posted here before) and see what you really said. She made a circus about those dancers and fears of her tour being jeopardized. It was ridiculous. But I suppose she thought it would be a better look if it was about a boy (Harry Styles in this case, which btw I will never believe was anything more than PR). I can’t with her smug face anymore, when is she taking a break?

  14. flybaby says:

    Much as I find her as annoying as the next person, nobody grills male artists about who their songs are about or throws shade at them because they are ambitious.

    • perplexed says:

      Her references are too easy to figure out — like that song about Harry Styles. That’s probably why she gets asked about it. Plus, it seems like she does more interviews than everybody else out there, male or female. She probably needs a hook to all those interviews…

    • Original T.C. says:

      No one grills male artists or even other female artists about their songs because they don’t write hateful blind item pieces about other famous people in EVERY album and leave not-so secret words and interviews almost drawing a line pointing at the ID of said person. You don’t see this as a problem because you don’t care about her victims which are mainly boys.

      Additionally when other men or women occasionally (not EVERY ALBULM) write a popular some about a specific person they are asked who it’s about. Again you probably don’t notice because you don’t care to read interviews about other artists.

      I know Swifty fans and moms who love their little kids being baby-sat by her would LOVE to again take the blame from her and use Feminism but LOL, no. This is about a bratty jerk who treats anyone leaving her as the devil, not her business sense.

  15. Cynthia says:

    She’s so full of shit, straight up lying when the receipts are on the Rolling Stones mag. I hope someone will call her out on it, like sis you completely contradicted yourself.

  16. verge says:

    It’s funny that Jennifer Lawrence is in the news for being underpaid because she’s too “nice” and “adorable”, everyone is bemoaning the gender gap in pay, etc. Yet when Taylor Swift comes along, someone who actually knows how to use her negotiating leverage to advance her interests, she gets constantly blasted for being “calculating”. In a sane world, Taylor would be studied and emulated like Steve Jobs is by men.

    • perplexed says:

      I don’t think she’s considered calculating because of how well she’s negotiated her career. I think she’s considered calculating because of the stories she weaves about other people. I think she’s a smart businesswoman but she is an artistic industry, so I can see how a certain element of authenticity would be called into question whereas the notion of authenticity would be considered somewhat irrelevant or overlooked in something like the computer business.

    • Kate says:

      These days the commentary about what a gigantic dick Jobs was drowns out most everything else.

      If you look at men who are called calculating, people may admire their business skills, enjoy products they are responsible for etc. but it’s also generally accepted that they’re not good people. No one likes them as a person.

  17. Birdix says:

    Interesting point about people losing self-awareness with success. I have seen that happen to people who through work, marriage, or dumb luck have come into unbelievable amounts of money. Less so artists, although I imagine the rock stars end up falling more into the first category than most other types of artist. Maybe it becomes whether you love/appreciate the art (or artistic process) or the fame/money more.

    • Jib says:

      Yes, I agree that it probably depends on your level of interest and actual participation in the artistic process. I think most pop stars have very little to do with the music they actually sing, so they get turned by fame and fortune, whereas those who are really artistic and write their own music and lyrics are, in my view, less likely to get crazy from fame and fortune. They have a connection to their “product,” so they are much more grounded.

  18. Freddy Spaghetti says:

    I guess I am the only one who thought Chuck Klosterman wrote a brilliant piece on a manufactured star who not only knows it, but totally owns it. Taylor Swift is exactly how she seems because that’s who she’s made herself be. I loved how he noted she changed the way she talked because it seemed to interest him more.

  19. A.Key says:

    I still can’t quite believe she’s become this successful. Her music is horrible. Her lyrics ridiculously stupid, as if written by an angry 15 year old in between classes.
    I can’t believe that after Queen, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Annie Lennox, Patti Smith, etc. we now have THIS as the most successful music “artist” of our time.
    I mean, WTF happened…

    • Pondering thoughts: Let's not change anything because somebody might get upset by the changes :-S says:

      We have also had Take That, Boyzone, New Kids on the Block, Milli Vanilli …
      It will pass …
      Patience.

      But I do understand your annoyance. I feel it, too.

      And then, there is Meghan Trainor, Adele, … HOPE.

  20. INeedANap says:

    I find this amusing because the only thing I like about her is how calculating and cold-hearted she is. I am desperate for an in-charge mean girl who takes all the money and goes after more, a true corporate villainess.

  21. iheartgossip says:

    Ugh. I thought she knew people are sick of her and she was taking a break. When is that break coming?

  22. Petunia says:

    I see the latest media trend of “outing who Taylir Swift really is” as a total PR move by her side that everyone is as per the norm jumping on. Proving once again, how “brilliant”/”savvy”/ blah blah she is.
    Most of these scandalous revelation filled articles in one way or another come around, whether in the article or in the comments, to how smart and savvy she is to have played us.
    Her people have changed her image from one character to another while keeping her steadily at the forefront of gossip. The love to hate dynamic through planted theories of how she throws so hard but we all know the truth have fooled people into thinking they care.
    The bad blood spectacle part one/Katy or who? The girl squad, the friend collecting, and now like clockwork with the end of her tour and interest waning, a sudden media flood of “she almost fooled us but we caught her but man, she was so savvy”. This causing the discussion/ debate whether she should be lauded or scorned for her meticulously ( the most popular adverb used in the revealing take downs that are actually thinly veiled praise pieces) crafted( another fav) image.
    the comparisons to Beyonce and other huge names that once would never have shared the same article are now casually being inserted as acceptable guages by which to compare her. This is all so clearly intentional.
    Her side reads and takes in all the comments and public opinion. I realize she is the biggest music star right now on concert sales. The publicity for this tour was by keeping her in the daily discussion daily.
    Now that the tour is over, it’s all about whether or not she’s who she pretends to be. This is all being put out by her PR. When have we ever cared so deeply if a music star was truly who they promoted themselves to be? Never! All these ridiculous “mean girl”whos shading who …. Seriously?!? Do you honestly lose sleep wondering if she really baked the bookies on her Instagram? You wouldn’t, but her PR machine is making you.
    There’s no serious career ruining revelation in any of these expose type articles. Know why? It’s all just another way to keep Taylor Swift the hottest topic.
    She isn’t the mastermind. She has an amazing team that her money has acquired.
    She isn’t the clever sneaky genius as described by these bloggers pretending they got her number whilst seemingly using “mean girl” as an insult they whisper with reverence while hearts explode in the back of their minds.
    She isn’t a girl. None of these people are girls, they are women. “Mean Girls” was a movie. It’s not a verb. The tweenification of America needs to stop. If you like her music, listen to it. Who cares what her favorite flavor of corn nuts is and whether or not she really likes barbecue or that clever vixen secretly loves ranch.
    Let’s grow up and realize these are entertainers whom we do not know and who cares?!?!

  23. Pondering thoughts: Let's not change anything because somebody might get upset by the changes :-S says:

    Swifty isn’t so much working at her career, hard, but she undermines others with mobbing-like tactics and surprisingly gets good press for that.