I feel like this story is probably going to heat up this afternoon, so we’ll be updating if there are breaking developments. Amber Heard’s deposition was rescheduled for today, Friday, at 10 am PST. Amber was supposed to be deposed last weekend, and she did show up for the depo… almost two hours late. Then she reportedly cried and carried on and refused to sit for the depo for hours and hours. Allegedly. So everything was pushed back, and Amber was supposed to be deposed today, ahead of Johnny Depp and Amber’s new court appearance on August 17th. This whole time, the lawyers have been negotiating a settlement too, although they haven’t agreed on anything yet.
Well, Amber is reportedly not even going to make it to her deposition today in LA. She’s still in London, working. As TMZ notes: “The consequences could be severe. Johnny Depp’s lawyers have already asked the judge to prohibit her from testifying in next week’s trial because she refused to go in the depo room last weekend and testify.” But then TMZ reported this:
Amber Heard had “an emergency” and that’s why she’s going to miss her 10 AM call for a deposition in L.A. … TMZ has learned. According to legal docs, an unspecified emergency arose and “to no fault of her own, Amber was unable to arrange for a flight to travel from London.”
Amber’s lawyers, Samantha Spector and Joseph Koenig, go after Johnny Depp’s lawyers with a vengeance, saying, “Johnny’s counsel continues to wage a malicious war against Amber in the Court of Public Opinion in an effort to intimidate and discourage Amber from telling the truth.”
Amber’s lawyers suggest Johnny will never address the allegations of domestic violence under oath and then says, “It is a disturbing shame that Johnny’s lawyers continue to pursue a relentless personal attack against Amber.”
Spector will ask a judge to push Amber’s depo to Saturday. And there’s this. Amber’s lawyers attached a letter to the filing in which she accuses Johnny’s lawyer of reneging on a settlement agreement. The letter is dated Thursday, August 11th. Johnny’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, responds in a separate letter that the offer was sent to Johnny for his approval.
I don’t know what to tell you. I tend to think that while Amber might be scattered and emotional right now, her lawyers know what they’re doing and she’s taking their advice. I do feel like there’s some sort of legal gamesmanship happening here, but I could be wrong. We’ll update if something else breaks.
UPDATE – People reports that Amber’s deposition has been rescheduled for tomorrow, Saturday, due to the fact that she could not arrange a flight back for today.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
I don’t think her lawyers know what they’re doing.
Me either – I think the wheels fell off their strategy months ago and they are crisis managing (badly) at every turn. The minute JD’s Team dug in refusing to settle (pre the abuse claims) AH’s team have been shambolic.
Her unwillingness to depose (give testimony under oath) must be straining the very last nerve of the Court/Judge.
They know what they’re doing. So do Johnny’s lawyers. I’d bet money that IF Amber became “emotional’ at last weeks depo, it was after his lawyers made her sit and wait for ten hours. Being jet lagged and sitting around all day, I’d be pissed off too.
WAsser says Amber was manic and hysterical. I’d really like to know at what time of day that occurred. Civil lawyers play games like this all the time. They were probably trying to hammer out a deal, made her sit and wait all day, then said forget it at the 11th hour. So they can then paint her as the hysterical freak.
He’s an idiot for not throwing money at this thing to just go away. I believe Amber, and even though he thinks he’s being smart, trying to drag her through the mud, he’s right there next to her. I mean he has Vanessa on a witness list?? Are you kidding me?? She’s such a private person, I can’t imagine she’s especially happy about testifying. Him dragging this out, just makes him look worse and worse to me as every week passes.
@Melanie Yes! I completely agree. It makes the most sense that if at any point she got emotional, it was after they kept dragging things out and letting her anxiety build, and going back and forth with negotiations where they were hardballing her the whole time.
As for Vanessa testifying, I just don’t see how he thinks it helps his case at all. Just because he didn’t hit her doesn’t mean he didn’t hit Amber. Two different relationships.
I don’t either. I also don’t buy that you can’t arrange a flight from London to LA. Those are huge markets and there are plenty of flights daily.
I didn’t think so either, then that video was released. Holy smokes!
GOOD CALL that things were going to heat up, Celebitchy. That video came out Friday. What is going on? What kind of chess are their teams playing?
Why, girl?
I can’t see this as anything other than a dreadful move on her part and/or her lawyers. Maybe they believed they had a settlement, but it wasn’t finalized, and instead of coming over just in case she stayed. I think Wasser is going to go in really hard and will be going 100% to get the whole thing thrown out. The only way forward for her then, to salvage her reputation, would be to file a complaint with the police and leave it to them to investigate.
This doesn’t make her look good… at this point it looks like she REALLY doesn’t want to back up her statements under oath. Either way, I smell a settlement…
They’ll settle, but this is making her look evasive and uncooperative, IMO. It’s probably all legal maneuvering.
Yeah and the ‘spin’ on this story that was put down by TMZ & Wasser and picked up here doesn’t help either. Her side has said that she was not 2 hours late (do you think that maybe the depo was 11 and not 10 but Wasser didn’t fill in TMZ so Amber looked foolish?) and that she was ready, willing & able to sit for depositions but that they never happened. Sure she was probably crying & being upset (I’m sure Wasser has deposed a lot worse) but her side has maintained that they could have deposed her. They were trying to settle & it fell apart. Wasser wants to spin that it was crazy, emotional, flaky Amber that made it fall apart. BS- they were trying to settle & didn’t so they keep pushing back depositions. If they deposed her that day then she wouldn’t have this threat of depo over her head & they’d be moving on to trial. Wasser wants to push back depositions, doesn’t want any of JD’s stuff out there, wants us to skewer Amber so she settles.
Wasser is a great attorney but she’s working for an abusive pos right now who is blaming the victim. It’s working & we are not helping here.
Yes to all of it.
MC2:
I agree wholeheartedly with your read on this situation posted here and your comments downthread. Laura Wasser is an excellent attorney and she’s definitely playing hardball with Amber and her legal team in private, in court and in the press. I have to admire how zealously she is representing her client, who in my opinion is slimy human filth. Hopefully when this is over she’ll do a whole lot of pro bono work to wash off the taint of this case.
This^^
Agree 100 %.
TMZ ran HER lawyers story about why she missed the depo. How is that spin for Johnny??? Johnny’s team has given no statement to the press. Period.
Her side has said that she was not 2 hours late (do you think that maybe the depo was 11 and not 10 but Wasser didn’t fill in TMZ so Amber looked foolish?)
No, it was at 10 and Amber and her people knew and acknowledged that. All they did was say it wasn’t a full two hours late, try to mitigate the damage by claiming she called and told his lawyers she was going to be late, and then blamed the paparazzi because they forced her to find a different place to park and enter that was more private.
Lindsay- Her side has maintained that she confirmed the 11:00am appointment the day before with JD’s team and then called when she running later then 11:00 to find an entrance.
But we digress. I don’t care if she was 3 hours late. It’s dumb but does not take away from the abuse.
See what they have done here? We should lack sympathy for the victim because she was late?! She should not get justice because she cried and ‘carried on’?!
This is abuser 101- abuse someone and then when they come forward just make them look crazy & unstable. If they push then remind them that you have ‘dirt’ (ie- whatever pic they have).
She can be late all she wants and cry all she wants. I still think that she should be granted a restraining order if she wants one and that pos should face some justice for abusing her.
Yes…this right here!!
Girl, I thought you were trying to get this money?!?!?
(Also idk if this was addressed somewhere else but why does she have to go first?)
I think because she is the one making the complaint.
She was served her notice first and her lawyers didn’t object to the order. Usually it is plaintiff first but it isn’t a rule or requirement.
I can’t take her seriously anymore, because she doesn’t seem to take it seriously either. If Depp was skipping his scheduled depositions like that everyone would have taken it as a sign of guilt. It looks like Amber just doesn’t want to be deposed.
Nah, he’s just been paying everyone he has ever met to be a “witness” for him and say what a top bloke he is
What does that have to do with what Ruth’s saying?
You arebacucally assuming he must be guilty and eveything that happens just futher proofs it. And like Velma said your comment was not even relevant.
You only think that she is not taking it seriously because of what TMZ reports. There was a settlement that was supposed to go through yesterday and then there would be no deposition. Amber didn’t skip anything- she was told there would be a settlement and then Wasser didn’t get it agreed upon even though she said she would. But this article kind of glossed over that or people didn’t get it??? Quit eating what Wasser is serving.
But if Amber was going to show but was told that settlement was supposed to go through yesterday, so she would not need to be there and that is the reason why she didn’t show up then why didn’t her lawyers or pr state that? Why say she had an unspecified emergency? Also, why then did they not immediately ask to have the depo postponed so she could make it on time, since she had not board a plane to get to LA in time for the original Friday depo time since she thought everything had been settled?
People would understand that she didn’t show up because she was under the impression by her lawyers that everything was settled, but that’s not what her people are saying.
@MC2 Incorrect. Her own lawyers are saying she missed it because of a flight issue. And now she’s supposed to do it tomorrow.
I feel the same way at this point. She’s failed to show 3 times or refused to be deposed. If it was Depp he would be crucified so yea not a good look
I agree. When the story broke about her being too upset to go through with the depo she requested be scheduled for a Saturday at her convenience, I started to wonder what is going on here. I get being emotionally distraught but the longer this goes, the more he can get at her. Why not get it done and over?
I 100% believe that Depp was abusive to her, but she’s not doing herself any favors at this point. If her lawyers are advising her to do this, she needs new lawyers.
Hi! I’ve been reading this site for years but never posted. Y’all nasty!
OK, I’ve seen a lawyer or something post on this Amber/Depp story before and I just have to ask anyone who knows the law better than I do… What is keeping the lawyers from depositioning her in London and him wherever he’s at? Aren’t they usually recorded?
Amber did show up for her depositions and they were trying to settle but didn’t. They thought they would settle yesterday (hence the attached letter about Wasser not pulling that together) and not need to do depositions. Johnny’s camp is trying to stretch this out. If they really wanted to depose Amber they would have last week when she was there. Wasser has deposed crying people before- that is a bs excuse and Wasser would have loved it if Amber was emotional, deposed & lost it then.
This is all legal wrangling. They are very close to settling & both sides know it. At this point the threat of a deposition and some picture becoming public is working in JD’s favor & Amber will settle.
Why is Johnny’s camp trying to stretch this out, though? Wouldn’t it be in his best interests to get this over with quickly? I’m so confused by all of this.
To make it seem like hes innocent. If he settles too quickly, he looks guilty. plus, hes probably enjoying slamming amber in the press, thanks, tmz.
@MC2, who wrote: “Amber did show up for her depositions and they were trying to settle but didn’t. They thought they would settle yesterday (hence the attached letter about Wasser not pulling that together) and not need to do depositions. Johnny’s camp is trying to stretch this out. If they really wanted to depose Amber they would have last week when she was there. Wasser has deposed crying people before- that is a bs excuse and Wasser would have loved it if Amber was emotional, deposed & lost it then.”
Wasser filed official documents with the Court for the presiding Judge stating that Amber Heard was asked once at 2 pm and again at 5:30 pm to come into the room and be deposed. Amber refused to do so both times. There was a Court Reporter and a Videographer set up in the room they had designated for the deposition, who could also see everything Amber was doing through the glass wall, so it’s doubtful Wasser would lie about that fact when, at least, the Court Reporter would be duty bound to report the truth to the presiding Judge if asked.
But Johnny isnt the one not showing up or refusing to be deposed. She is.
Emma- I could be wrong but I believe Amber’s camp more then JD’s camp. Amber’s side said that she was ready & willing to be deposed. I don’t believe Wasser’s side that Amber showed up & then went hysterical and refused. I think there is a big story behind that & I think that Amber’s team is zipping it except to say that she was there, ready & willing.
I assume that what they were doing for 10 hours (wtf) was trying to come up with a settlement. I assume that it was hours of back & forth and ‘almosts’ of a lot of things.
I think that we lack compassion for what a deposition will be like for Amber. Wasser is one hell of an attorney & this is about a long term personal relationship so nothing is off limits. Wasser is about to grill Amber on every bad decision, mistake, past relationship, outburst, drug use, past abuse by others, every.single.thing.she.has.ever.done. And a videographer to tape it & someone to write it all down. I wouldn’t blame Amber if she hesitates, cried or tried to wrangle out of it. I don’t wish to be her right now. Someone abuses you, you tell & then you get put on trial.
“Wasser filed official documents with the Court for the presiding Judge stating that Amber Heard was asked once at 2 pm and again at 5:30 pm to come into the room and be deposed. Amber refused to do so both times”
Well lawyers use the name of the client when it really is the lawyer’s action. So was it Amber who refused or was it in consultation with her lawyer who so advised her. There are often disputes over topics to be covered in a deposition and even specific questions in dispute. It may have such matters. This notion that someone is refusing to be deposed is spin from one side.
And if anyone thinks Johnny is going to get deposed or testify at a hearing you can forget it. He can assert his Fifth Amendment rights not to testify. He’ll use his friends and other surrogates to speak for him and deny things.
The party that sends the notice for a deposition sets the venue, is responsible for the cost of the space, their travel, the transcription and required ancillary staff. She would have to justify the expense, the burden imposed on his lawyers and court reporters. They also look at litigation efficiency and being so many time zones away from the court hearing it would cause a problem if they needed a judge to rule if a dispute occurs.
Past California cases make clear that a party seeking a protective order to move the deposition must establish good cause, and good cause is not established simply by arguing that it would be burdensome to travel to a foreign country and/or because the deponent is busy.
Her team could ask for a protective order and try to have the deposition in London but I doubt there is a compelling reason to do so. If she can travel back to the US tomorrow clearly whatever is going on there is not that important.
His people are not inclined to rush this along the longer it looks like she doesn’t want to be deposed the worse she looks in the public eye and she looks disrespectful of the court’s time and orders. Amber’s lawyers could depose him wherever he is but they don’t want the extra cost and burden and like Amber, there is no compelling reason Johnny could not come back to where the suit was filed. Amber and Johnny’s depositions are going to be the longest and most important so they probably want to conduct them in person. Vanessa or someone else with limited knowledge and testimony could be deposed by Skype if both parties agree.
Thank you Lindsay and MC2!!! This shit is beyond messy!
They don’t even do depositions in advance of a hearing for a permanent restraining order in my jurisidiction. I can see deposing the
parties for a divorce hearing but for a simple RO? really?
It would only end up being a one sided event anyway since the respondents all have Fifth Amendment rights to protect.
So instead of explaining what the emergency that is keeping their client from showing up is, her lawyers instead make all of these claims about what Johnny is and isn’t going to do. Why don’t they just focus on what their client is or isn’t going to do because bringing up Depp isn’t working at deflecting the public attention from her continual attempts to avoid this depo. Nor does it make her look any less suspicious. This is not only making her look bad, but also making her lawyers look bad and that can’t be good for business.
This! x 1000s. They are the ones constantly spinning it and avoiding the whole truth. Every single time. And one of Amber’s lawyers has had ethical sanctioned and was barred for 3 years.
Yet let’s all question Laura Wasser because she’s working for Johnny. Seriously???
How is it Johnny’s fault Amber couldn’t get a flight? It’s not. Period.
At the moment I don’t believe anything that is being posted in the media. I don’t believe her lawyers are incompetent and that she wants to hurt her case. But I do believe there is a campaign to make people believe that she is crazy, unstable and unreliable. Even the stuff written about her being late doesn’t make sense considering the time she spent there.
I’ll just wait to see what happens, because right now this seems to be the continuation of the media battle we saw in the beginning but with nothing substancial to justify it.
Just my own personal opinion but I think Amber has a drug problem.
That’s what i think as well.
Alleged. Some sites hint that the evidence about the blood on the sheets is from her alleged cocaine abuse nose bleed and not from Johnny’s fists. Alleged.
Am beginning to think her claims won’t stand up in court plus they both want a settlements but the sticking point is money. She’s being difficult and playing the media games to get more than she is entitled to for a short marriage. Money has always been the issue. It’s not that I disbelieve there was behavioural issues on both sides.
She has terrible lawyers.
i hope this works out for Amber. she’s fighting a powerful man with deep pockets and the ability and sources to manipulate the media. i hope she is able to keep fighting.
she’s waiting on the settlement…if Depp does not show up then we know they are getting ready to cut a check.
We know that TMZ is in Depp’s corner so I have to agree with MC2 that there is a lot of spin here.
It is to Depp’s benefit to paint Heard as an unstable person, and the question remains why aren’t we hearing anything about Depp being deposed? It’s not a criminal trial so he can’t plead the fifth.
Depp has been in the power position from day one so we need to take these TMZ reports with a huge rock of salt.
He was supposed to be deposed after her tomorrow.
he is not required to sit for a deposition. the judge said he only had to give a statement to the court.
Besides, you can’t depose both parties on the same day. They’ve requested Amber do it Saturday. Then Johnny can’t. They have to allow 7 hours, both teams must be present at each. They can’t ask to do Amber’s on Saturday then complain because Johnny can’t do one. What sense does that make really?
Not true – there is no rule mandating that depositions cannot be conducted for multiple parties in the same suit on the same day. I’m an attorney and we frequently attempt to schedule the depositions of the parties on the same day. It’s more convenient for everyone involved
Nola – Since your an Attorney whats your take on whats happening?
NOLA the judge has declared these two are not allowed to be present at each other’s depos.
There is a Temp RO in place.
You are absolutely allowed to plead the fifth in civil trials. He is waiting for her to be deposed, the order they agreed upon.
“It’s not a criminal trial so he can’t plead the fifth.”
Of course he can. But then he puts his case at risk by leaving her accusations unanswered – those accusations to which only the two of them can testify to.
Many respondents in domestic violence hearings where a restraining order is sought refuse to testify and simply Consent without Admissions to the stay-away.
Real talk, I’m starting to wonder if her lawyers aren’t purposely f-ing up her case so they can get a bigger fee and more publicity. Who are these lawyers? Unlike Wasser and Beck, I don’t think they are well known and am wondering if they aren’t using this to make a name themselves.
I wish she weren’t so intent on getting a financial settlement.
Tell him to keep his cash, and testify to the abuse!
I thought this at first, but she is legally entitled to half of his earnings during their marriage if no pre-nup. Why should she forego this?
I don’t think that she should have to forego a financial settlement, but she could move forward with the restraining order case, and then settle the divorce at a later date. Infact, I thought she claimed last month that she had decided to keep the financial settlement separate from the RO case. Now, it sounds like she is willing to drop the restraining order request if he agrees to her settlement proposal.
Goldie, that makes perfect sense.
I don’t think she’s due half if they have been married less than 10 years. But I could be wrong. But she is automatically due something because there was no prenup.
She must be thinking along the lines of Oksana, “hmmm…$15 million?? Pssh, I can get more than that!!”
Most abuse cases either don’t make it to trial or win. Life isn’t Law and Order SVU. It would do her better to settle and get the money before leaving.
I can’t trust anything thats driven by tmz who’ve been trying their hardest to pull for team Johnny on this. Every scoop from them is a knock on credibility and while she seems aloof, I don’t think she’s asinine. Her father’s a major atty in LA.
Her father isn’t an attorney.
Her dad’s a contractor, not an attorney.
I don’t think it’s the lawyers fault if the client is completely out of control. I think Amber is really emotionally unstable and is playing games, and it is her lawyers job to represent her and cover up her shit.
My inclination, too. So hard to sort out the games both sides (I think) are playing. Hope this is over soon.
Via People, her lawyers claim that the reason she was not there is that she was “unable to book a flight”. Right! She probably hoped that his team will settle but they didn’t . So, she wants to settle but he doesn’t, yet.
I feel so sorry for her.
Apparently Depp is due to be deposed tomorrow, too. Maybe they don’t want him to be deposed after hearing what Amber has had to say – going second gives a certain advantage.
Very weird that the two sets of lawyers are making claims that are not reconcilable, in formal depositions, based on their own claimed personal observations.
Maybe she doesn’t want to be in the same place as Johnny.
Also, this sounds like another TMZ attempt at smearing. I guess it’s easier to do with people’s ignorance the legal system, and stunts lawyers can pull.
The long pause on this case probably gives them a second wind on a – by now – fatigued public opinion that’ll probably find it easier to snap back on Amber.
Depp was never going to be at this depo of hers just like he wasn’t at the one on Saturday, so how would he effect her ability to show up to be deposed?
To set the record 100% clear and I hope this gets allowed.
“Moor ordered Heard to sit for a deposition on Friday and Depp to give sworn testimony in advance of the hearing on Saturday.”
A sworn declaration (also called a sworn statement or a statement under penalty of perjury) is a document that recites facts pertinent to a legal proceeding. It is very similar to an affidavit, but unlike an affidavit, it is not witnessed and sealed [dubious – discuss] by an official such as a notary public.
Does not say Johnny has been ordered to SIT for a DEPOSITION.
I just believe we should have the facts right why is this not allowed?
Now I’m confused. Why doesn’t Johnny Depp have to sit for a deposition and Amber Heard does? I’m wondering if persons accused of a crime can refuse a deposition. Are there any lawyers here?
Is Johnny Depp being deposed before the trial? If not, why?
Depositions are extremely humiliating and embarrassing. The trial would be also. Anyway, Amber is not going to be punished for this since it seems her lawyers came to an agreement for a settlement yesterday and that is probably the reason why she did not go to the deposition today. She won’t go tomorrow either … because they will settle by tonight or tomorrow morning. If you can avoid a deposition and trial, it’s better to do so and obviously the judge WANTS them to settle, which is why he keeps pushing back the date of the deposition. I saw an interview with Wasser and she said the best resolution is always to settle.
We’ll never know what happened here.
Her lawyers aren’t protecting her enough if she can’t handle the deposition. Yes they are godawful and scary, but that’s why you have your lawyer sitting next to you, and if they have prepped you well, you get through it. If she really refused to go in the room and give her deposition twice, then are lawyers aren’t worth their high-priced fees, they are supposed to help her get through it. If they were deliberately stalling and the court finds out, they will be very unpopular.
Anyway, I hope Amber does settle. She has been humiliated and embarrassed enough. I just read in the news that there was a peeping tom who took upskirt shots of her. This is in addition to all of the nude pictures that were leaked of her. Settle and move on.
I don’t care if she gives the deposition anymore.
Do not worry, Ms. Heard. They reek of desperation and even outright panic now because their pathetic attacks against you are coming so fast. Please hold your head up high.
In her shoes I think this is a difficult conclusion to make when you’re in the thick of it, but you’re so right. The attacks are there to deflect away from him.
E! just posted an article that talks about why it’s not uncommon for these depositions to get rescheduled. http://www.eonline.com/news/787350/why-amber-heard-and-johnny-depp-s-divorce-case-may-just-quietly-go-away-after-its-bombshell-beginning
To me it explains a lot, including how Wasser put a spin to Amber being emotional. I swear, I feel for this poor woman. They’re putting her through the ringer, and on top of that she’s now had to travel TWICE even though she doesn’t know if she’ll have to ultimately be deposed or not.
A video has apparently surfaced online showing Johnny Depp yelling abuse and smashing glasses etc.
A small snippet of a long narrative. I wish we could see the whole video to put the entire episode in context.
I’m sorry but in the end that’s not relevant. At the end of the day his behavior is still done to intimidate his wife, and regardless of what came before (as we can all take a guess of what happened after) his behavior in that short snippet is abusive.
TMZ claims that that video was taken “months” prior to May. That’s BS; that video is from before they were married. Johnny doesn’t have the “slim” tattoo on his right knuckles yet. I mean, come on. Did no one involved in the leaking catch that? Tattoos do not come and go. Why lie about that date like that? It has also been edited even I can tell that. This whole thing stinks. I’ll sort of buy that she didn’t leak that, but I bet one of her friends did. It’s not admissible in court is it? TMZ says her side entered it as an exhibit but I’d think the courts couldn’t just take it at face value like that.
Does it matter if it was before or after the marriage? He’s still a raging alcoholic drinking during the early morning hours who’s slurring his words and throwing a fit with no provocation from Amber. She says on the video, “I just woke up.”
@H Right? Apart from asking him what’s wrong, to no response from him, she’s emphasized multiple times in that video trying to break some logic through to him that she’s just woke up and nothing has happened so far this day for him to be pouring giant glasses of wine, slurringly swearing at her, and kicking the pantry doors, slamming glass cabinet doors and multiple other things around the kitchen.
His fans always have an excuse.Always spinning sh##.Why not say his behavior is unacceptable? Do you behave like that?
I completely think his behavior is unacceptable. But editing means she may have said other, goading things that might make her look bad. Even one left in–her holding up the wine bottle to the camera to ask “innocently” if he had drunk the whole bottle that morning was deliberate and manipulative. She “just woke up,” but had been awake long enough to set up a camera to film him drunk? Look, in a way I’m glad the video is out so his fans can see he’s not the angel his supporters try to present him as–noone should buy that line of bull after seeing this. His drunk rampaging seems similar to his accounts of his out-of-control younger days, and is not pretty. But she does not come off well either, since it is very clear she planned to leave him for months but was amassing evidence for the purpose of a huge payout. She wasn’t scared in the video, she’s playing him. Of course he’s furious when he sees the camera. If she had integrity, she simply would have left him and gone after him for the half of money earned during the short marriage–a huge sum–and issued a statement saying she had to leave a toxic, abusive marriage and he needed rehab STAT. All of this makes me think this is really about her wanting a gigantic payout.
@tracking Sorry but can you explain that better to me, because you sound like you’re saying if she had “integrity” she should of just went after him for alimony gave a short statement about him being abusive which, let’s be realistic here, no one would’ve believed, and basically kept quiet instead of making it known what he’s done to her. I don’t see how that’s a sign of integrity at all. You think people would’ve believed her if she made some statement about him being abusive? She’s provided pictures and, now, video and still no one believes her, so why would they after some statement. In fact everyone would claim she wasn’t abused because she didn’t give any proof and she wasn’t going after him legally, had she just given some statement and walked off. So essentially you’re telling her that she should’ve just let this go and shaming her for not doing that.
@Cinder, no, I’m “shaming” her for playing her husband, which she’s clearly doing in this video. She’s not afraid, she’s manipulating and filming him. She would have had friends and witnesses back up her story. She set him up here, and I believe that was about money not about getting her “truth” out there. And btw, although I was always a little suspicious of her financial motives, I was completely on her side until witnessing her little act here. Of course she did not deserve abuse–no one does under any circumstances– but I now think she is also a nasty piece of work who was perfectly happy to keep silent/withhold all this stuff provided the payout was sufficient.
Poor Johnny,he was provoked.
He was set up.
She pushed his buttons.
It’s her fault he is behaving like an out of control idiot.
She drove him to drink,he was fine until he got with her.
It’s not his fault.
#sarcasm
Tracking you don’t know her motive for recording him. Have you ever experienced an addict who changes completely when they’re high/drunk?
Often times they have no recollection of their actions when they sober up. When you tell them how they acted they don’t believe they would ever do that. They think you’re exaggerating their bad behaviour.
Sometimes you wish they could see how they really act when they’re out of control. Maybe she wanted to show johnny what he’s like on a binge.
I wasn’t defending JD or saying AH is a total liar, I was just pointing something out. And I don’t believe she didn’t have anything to do with the leaking. Who else besides her legal team would have that video? She/ her team have been playing a game in the media with all the leaks, that’s pretty undeniable. If she lied about the date of the video in the docs that were submitted to the court it’ll likely get thrown out wouldn’t it? It’s easy to prove how old that video is. It was taken before their wedding. His behavior is wrong, but what’s up with the date being wrong? Why jeopardize her case? Is it just tmz that got it wrong?
“TMZ says her side entered it as an exhibit but I’d think the courts couldn’te it at face value like that.”
The court doesn’t take things at “face value.” Heard would authenticate it as a video she made on such and such a date. That makes it authenticated evidence. If the opposing party has an issue with it then they can cross examine her about it.
And I hear fear and caution in her voice. Like she’s trying not to provoke him. Why wouldn’t she tape him if she anticipated abusive behavior? Good for her that she had the presence of mind to do it. Too bad that he is revealed for what he is.
This whole thing is happening to prevent Amber from getting what she is rightfully owned bc she is married to jonny. Laura, the lawyer, is not amber’s therapist, she she should shut up will the psychobabble. I am sure they are both stressed out. The judge should order a 50 spilt of finances and give them both RO. If it was my court, I would be furious at Laura and her team. This is a divorce case, regardless of rather there was an abusive episode or not. Just spilt up the resources already and order them to stay away from each other.
Courts are suppose to calm things down. lawyers are suppose to calm things down. There is alot of money involved and a marriage is ending, so obviously the people involve cannot do it themselves.
I think Amber has mental issues and I think Depp has all kinds of issues. Probably why they imploded like they did. They should just end this charade and get away from each other as far as possible. Isn’t your sanity more important than money? Just turn the page and move on.
The video is not doing her any favors. It captures Depp in a temper tantrum abusing alcohol, things everyone knows. He is angry about something and is not even bothering about her. However she switches on the video, then proceeds to prod him with questions that would surely annoy him further (even at that point he simply asks ‘were you even here’ ‘did something happen you’ to indicate it’s not her problem, so leave him alone), she still persists deliberately talking about his behavior towards her only so that his annoyance would turn to her, conveniently points to the bottle to indicate drunkenness which would make anyone more angry. Still it was after discovering that she is videotaping and egging him on he lashes out at her only to get the camera.
Point of the video? He has anger and alcohol issues? Everyone knows that. What it also proves is that she was indeed setting him by pushing his buttons, recording it to use it as blackmail. Thereby proving everything Depp’s side has been telling about her. Disgusting.
Now she is defending herself saying she didn’t release it and wants settlement. B***h please!
smh Man…I’ve kept quiet about this, but I have been in a very similar situation as Heard in this video. Where the person you’re with gets crazy angry (especially if there’s booze involved) out of nowhere and you can’t figure out what you did wrong. I’ve said the EXACT same things she says to him in this video – so confused, scared, and trying to understand. I know this isn’t catching him actually physically abusing her, but this is a clear sign of emotional abuse and anger issues – and I don’t believe it to be an isolated incident. Of course she’s been called a liar – we always are, and continue to be, until there’s video proof of how unstable the abuser truly is – especially if he’s “such a nice guy, tho.” I’ve been slandered and blamed for years, but I know the truth. Unfortunately, you can have all the legal proof and witnesses you want – you can also be photographed broken and bloodied, and people will still somehow make you the perpetrator who deserved to be abused! I’m proud of her being brave enough to do this – clearly she put herself in danger. Depp makes me wanna barf at this point!
Wow! I actually believed her because I always thought of Depp as an unstable alcoholic with anger issues. After all he has talked about his anger issues himself. And I thought he was being an asshole for dragging this out and acting vindictive.
However this video is actually proving that she has been setting him up during his temper tantrums, gaslighting him and taping it all to be used against him. Instead of proving DV it is outing her as a blackmailer.
This video is old which means it has been happening the whole time they were together. Depp has issues and it seems she has been exploiting that. Seems like her plan the whole time since she got into the relationship. Now it makes sense why he is acting so angry instead of just getting it over with because blackmail doesn’t stop and it’s demeaning.
It would be truly disgusting if she had been lying about the whole DV and I’m ashamed of ever supporting someone like her.
She is now retracting but the damage is done.
Re: the video
I’ve been reading the book this site suggested: Lundy’s Why Does He Do That and it warns against this kind of physical and emptional intimidation and how frequently escalates to physical intimidation. In fact, breaking and banging things in the immediate environment is physical intimidation ( I’m not sre why some people are trying to,excuse it as: well, he didnt touch her – point missed.) .
Addicts frequently either can’t remember or claim they can’t what they did when under the influence. I wouldn’t be surprised if she taped it so he’d get it, or just so she could see it later and know she’s not crazy. Hell, most online commentors refuse to believe Heard even now, if she didn’t tape it, it didn’t happen; if she tapes it, she’s “setting him up”. Like, at what point is he ever going to take responsibility for his behaviour and stop being vindictive and petty? (I wouldn’t be surprised if his team leaked it to colour any future footage from her as a set up.)
Nothing about his and his team’s reaction and behaviour to Heard’s allegations have convinced me he wasn’t abusive.
His behaviour has been very controlling, angry, and vindictive as if she was an object he once owned. And all his and their excuses are textbook. Aren’t his people embarrassed they’re enabling his very clear and disturbing issues? Probably not, their job is to do what they get paid for. Is it their fault the public wants to believe Johnny, eventhough his anger issues and substance abuse extends beyond his relationship with Heard.
He is never going to accept his own behaviour is problematic.
Anyway, people with first hand experience with addicts and abusers may stay silent on this online but I bet they know what they’re seeing when they see and hear it.
I don’t think he ever loved this woman, more he wanted someone to control and “own”. She must have thought the fault lied with her when he started kicking off. People probably encouraged her to marry him.
That is definitely abuse according to the statute. Classic abusive behavior meant to intimidate. And how in the world has she edited it? Because people believe there were words or events that preceded this taped behavior? well it doesn’t matter because nothing excuses him unless she handed him a script and said let’s pretend we’re doing a remake of Who’s Afraid of Viriginia Wolf?
Well, when you marry for money, it’s not going to be easy. No pre nup,she thought this would be easy, and Depp has never been married before.