Here are some photos of Kanye West, Kim Kardashian and North West out and about in New York yesterday following Sunday night’s VMAs. North did the outing with her parents during the day, and it looked like she was wearing some toddler-sized slip-dress and toddler-Yeezys? Then in the evening, Kim and Kanye stepped out without their kids. That’s Kim in shorts, a low-cut top and a long duster coat, an outfit that makes no sense.
True story: despite having several VMA nominations, Kanye didn’t win anything. But as he said in his speech, he can’t be too mad because he always wants Beyonce to win and she did (Bey won SO MANY awards). Plus, people are still talking about the “Fade” music video which Kanye debuted at the VMAs. While the actual video and song is getting attention, most of the spotlight is on Teyana Taylor. Teyana became the breakout star of the VMAs without even attending. Teyana gave an interview to E! News about her crazy body and how she really doesn’t work out that much. And guess what? She just had her first baby last December!! And her body is like POW. There are literally thousands of articles about Teyana now. Awesome.
Back to Kanye though… he decided to tweet something yesterday, post-VMAs. This was the tweet:
unity love pic.twitter.com/TunqfPuWfY
— KANYE WEST (@kanyewest) August 29, 2016
A t-shirt that is half-1989 album cover – which was Taylor’s last album, in 2014 – and half-My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy album cover (Kanye’s 2010 album, arguably his greatest). Is Kanye just poking at Taylor or is he trying to say that he’s open to reconciliation? I don’t know. No one knows. Dear Kanye: I have an idea for unity t-shirt. It would be an image of the traditional snake emoji with the words “peace in our time.” That’s a freebie!
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet, Pacific Coast News.
His obsession with Tay is creepy but I can see that he wants to show people that he does t hate her or is out to get her, I guess it’s his way of counteracting her claims about him over the years.
Still creepy
If he wasn’t a super-star celebrity, and was doing the same things he does now, we would be calling him Taylor Swift’s scary stalker.
No we wouldn’t and although this is a sleb chat site we can’t be saying that a disagreement and spat is the same as stalking – which causes fear and often ends in serious injury to physical or mental health or even death
it is obviously far from it and it isn’t right to be using it as a comparison
Agreed rhonaldinhio.
If he’s trying to make it look like he’s over the mess and wants to be friends, he has the weirdest way of doing it. I didn’t read this as a friendly gesture, I see it as a petty scorn. And it makes him look juvenile, and extremely creepy, instead of adult. If anything, he’s proving her right.
Dude, quit while you’re ahead!
Especially when he caused said mess in the first place..
He really just needs to let go. At some point in time it needs to stop. He is trying too hard to prove he doesn’t hate her or isn’t out to get her. If people don’t accept this by now, they never will. Constantly putting it out there makes him look like he is just trying to keep the feud alive. JMO
OK Snakelor fans, he wouldn’t even be doing this if Captain Jerkass hadn’t turned her Album of the Year moment into a fake feminist rant over a LIE that she and her Publicist (The Hanging) Tree told. He’s trying to make light, and she won’t even apologize. Taylor is garbage.
Bad B8 M8.
Honest question, how come no one claimed he was obsessed with Amber when he was talking about her but they claim he’s obsessed with Taylor when he tries to show unity (and in his way move on from “famousgate”) I don’t think he should give her the time of day at this point but he’s a good guy underneath the fame. If you question that, watch his interview with Jimmy kimmel after #nodisrespecttobenaffleck he’s just bad at articulating his thoughts and he has a lot of thoughts lol
I have posted on numerous occasions that he is also obsessed with Amber and that his depiction of her in that video was by far the most disgusting. And Amber did not like being used like that.
no one? you need to reread some threads.
To Kanye’s credit, he re-tweeted a shirt by an Canadian -Indian rapper Humble the Poet. Let’s not skewer him for giving a chance to an unknown guy.
He’s a friend of Lily Singh, they made a couple of cool music videos together!
Kanye without a doubt is obsessed with Taylor Swift.
I agree, but whenever I bring it up here I am blasted with comments about how awful Taylor is, and how she deserved it, and how wrong I am. It’s weird to me that people can’t see it, but there you go.
I’ll say it again- the amount of time he spends thinking of Taylor, writing about Taylor, obsessing about her is stalker level crazy.
In the world of Kanye Kardashian VS Taylor Swift I will always be team Taylor.
Believe me I stand with you.
I agree with you !
i agree. Taylor may not be perfect but she isn’t an evil genius. Kanye is quite creepy and Kim condones it to get more publicity.
if Kanye wasn’t famous, he wouldn’t have the acceptance of his stalking. i do believe Taylor tries to pacify him and keep him friendly but is appalled by his behaviour.
Taylor behaved badly with the phone call. few people are completely perfect their entire lives. she’s an entitled person and is aware of that.
Yeah, he needs to let it go. I don’t HATE Kanye, but I am Team Taylor — without casting her as a victim, that is. She’s a grown, autonomous woman with resources most of us will never have, and she can certainly fight for herself, but Yeezy needs give it up and find someone else to mess with. Or maybe turn the focus inward, and work on improving himself.
If this was happening to one of our friends or family members, we would be encouraging her to get a restraining order against him.
I’m not a Swift fan. She had this whole thing coming. What pisses me off about this situation is it didn’t just make Swift look bad, it made Kanye look good. People are saying oh look Kanye isn’t as evil as they paint him. EXCEPT HE STILL IS? If Taylor approved the lyric, then she doesn’t care about misogyny like she says she does and she’s a phony yada yada yada. The lyric didn’t stop being disgusting because she aproved it. Kanye is still disgustin for thinking that and coming up with that. Imo, Kanye is still WORSE than Swift because he was the one who thought it was a good idea to send that message to the world.
I know we’re all tired about Swift’s victim complex but seriously now – Kanye does have some very weird obsession with her, and I’m sure if that obsession was directed at someone else people here were more fond of, this page would have a solid >200 comments calling him out on it.
I agree too. I can see why people would be pooh-poohing that notion in the past, but this is getting beyond the pale. If this was “real life”, it would be frightening instead of ludicrous.
I don’t really have much of an opinion on Taylor; I find her very mundane and the fascination with her very interesting. Kanye, while a genuinely interesting person, I don’t like because he’s a spoiled child who expects lavish praise for even the most rudimentary effort.
Perhaps if Taylor apologized for saying she was ok with the lyrics privately and then shaming him at the Grammys, this could be buried once and for all.
I’m not defending the lyrics at all ( tho’ I do think it was tongue-in-cheek ) but if Taylor doesn’t have the balls to say how she really feels to his face and instead, pretends to be ok with it and proceeds to use a public forum to call him out, then she’s not innocent. What she did is called backstabbing and being duplicitous. She needs to own her part of this and stop blameshifting. She is responsible for her own words and actions. Kanye is responsible for his.
If she had told him privately that she was uncomfortable with the lyrics and he published them anyway, then she’d have every right to call him out publicly at that point. But we know that’s not how things went down.
@Bonzo – But their stories don’t match, they do not have the same issue so nobody can apologise. She claimed (even back in February) that the B line was the issue. This is not on the tape, the sex line is and some vague conversations of fame. But not the B line. Not to mention the conv. is cut.
I still think it’ a huge misunderstanding. He asked for approval of the sex lyrics, she agreed, he added some more (in good spirit, not thinking they are offensive to some, after all they’re not to Kim), and she was upset and reacted. They could have talked this out and handled this as adults a long time ago.
Original Kay: Please make room for me in your group.
Kay, I’m with you. But I have given up, those who dislike Taylor won’t listen. He is a creep for keeping this going but if she says anything she’s a “snake”. Good God.
Me too. Kim did not produce receipts reguarding the “that bitch” statement she takes issue with, but everyone ignores that.
Then they tried to keep it going after.
No doubt he is obsessed with Tay Tay. I don’t beleive it to be sexual or trying to get close to her or anything of that nature. I believe he is obsessed because she is a threat and therefore, competition. I am no fan of Swift. I am no fan of Kanye. But when he rushed the stage years ago when Taylor was accepting her award, he thought it would bring him glory in the eyes of JayZ, Bey, and the world. It did not, and ever since, he blames Taylor rather than his volatile self. Like a kid who lost Class President to another kid and hates that other kid for the rest of his life because it made him feel the other kid was better liked and more popular. He keeps saying all is well, but his actions belie that. His actions show he spends time thinking about her, how to play it today, how to come out of it seemingly on higher ground, but all it does is prove he’s still thinking about it/her. The man is dumb.
same here! He needs to let it go!
Like all of the time Taylor spends thinking, speaking, and writing about every dude she gets within three feet of? Should their families advise them to call the authorities? These comments have gone too far, it’s like one person says creepy then it becomes creepy and obsessed and now the cops need to be called? Really? For all Kanye’s faults he has never come across as anything less than a decent person and he did nothing to deserve the gross way you people are framing him. I’m literally disgusted.
I stand with you also. I detest Kanye and while I have a soft spot for Kim, nothing will make me take his side in this.
Crox: a transcript from the phone conversation:
Taylor Swift: “And you know, if people ask me about it I think it would be great for me to be like, ‘Look, he called me and told me the line before it came out. Jokes on you guys, We’re fine.’ You guys want to call this a feud; you want to call this throwing shade but right after the song comes out I’m going to be on a Grammys red carpet and they’re going to ask me about it and I’ll be like, ‘He called me.’ It’s awesome that you’re so outspoken about this and be like, ‘Yeah, she does. It made her famous.’ Its more provocative to say ‘might still have sex…’ It’s doesn’t matter to me. There’s not like one [line] that hurts my feelings and one that doesn’t.”
She knew about the second line about him making her famous.
And let’s not forget, that being referred to as “bitch” wasn’t the issue in her Grammy’s speech, it was her accusing him of taking credit for her fame, which is ludicrous since that wasn’t really what he was saying. He did make her “more” famous as many of us knew nothing about her (or him) until that incident.
Also, let’s not forget that the first statement her publicist made after Kimye stated that he’d called her to get her approval for the lyrics:
“Taylor does not hold anything against Kim Kardashian as she recognizes the pressure Kim must be under and that she is only repeating what she has been told by Kanye West. However, that does not change the fact that much of what Kim is saying is incorrect. Kanye West and Taylor only spoke once on the phone while she was on vacation with her family in January of 2016 and they have never spoken since. Taylor has never denied that conversation took place. It was on that phone call that Kanye West also asked her to release the song on her Twitter account, which she declined to do.”
Based on the phone call excerpts, Tay’s not telling the whole truth since it’s clear she was informed of the content of the two lines. She made it about being called a “bitch”, after the Grammys. It was like she was backpedaling to find something to accuse him of after-the-fact. She assumed it would be her word against Kimye until Kim dropped the bomb that she had video. Then she tried to get her lawyers involved to stop the evidence from coming out, followed by creating a massive distraction with TIDDLES.
Of course she made it about the B line only after the Grammys – that’s because that was the main issue and because that’s when she first heard that specific line. Her speech was an emotional response, so I can’t hold it against her. The point is, she did expose the B word as a problem in her statement right after the Grammys. And what bothered her the most is not on tape. That’s why – for me at least – Kim showed no receipts.
TBH, At first I thought Kim will release a bit of the phone call on every episode of KUWTK and that Taylor will be forced to change her story every time a bit, sinking lower and lower. But so far only Taylor’s team demanded the whole conversation to be made public and Kim’s team kept silent. I find that fishy.
For all we know, all that Taylor mentioned in her statement could actually be on that tape. It could also be that the sex line was among the lesser evils Taylor settled for. Or that it is really heavily edited to put together parts that were not said together. We can all hear how heavily cut it is. Or, alternatively, it could be that the B line is somewhere on there and Kim will release it when it suits her, for example when Swift decides to release an album.
Kanye and Taylor are each vying to be deemed the ultimate winner by the public. I feel like both consider themselves PR prodigies and are pitting their off-stage “talents” against one another, maybe they don’t even realize it but neither seems to be able to Let. It. Go! Its an odd dance with the rules ever changing as they fight for the titles of most contrite, forgiving, slaying, friendly, savvy, cool, self-deprecating, etc.
Despite my antipathy for Swift, can’t argue there. This is a fact.
I disagree
He made a mistake and tried to make up for it
He thought they were friends and even tred to involve her in a collaboration
It all went tits up and he felt sore about it
He still feels sore about it as he feels he was publicly dissed when he thought he was being a ‘good guy’
I can see why that is an open sore and he isn’t good at hiding these things. In terms of mental health that is probably the best way to be. Get the hurt out there, boot it around, feel the pain, an eventually it stops feeling so bad and you move on
Better than the pretend it didn’t happen and fester and fester
I have to agree, 90% of the attention he gets is because of this “thing” (I can’t even define it) he has with Taylor Swift. His wife encourages it because she’s even more addicted to attention than he is. Taylor probably just wishes he’d get hit by a bus or something, so she can get on with her own career without his constant annoying presence casting a pall over it. If Taylor was smart she’d never take a phone call, speak to his “people”, nor acknowledge his existence ever again. No one is going to “win” in this game, they just all look like idiots, but Taylor has the most to lose. There should be a law against career “hijacking”, which I think is what Kanye is doing to her. It’s borderline defamatory.
In the top pic, where she’s shushing the paps, I kinda feel for her. I would drop kick anyone who woke up my three year old. No questions.
Would you put your three year old in that situation in the first place?
That’s it. That’s what I couldn’t put into words.
I feel for the child, but it’s hard to feel anything for Kim knowing she loves the attention. It seems so fake to me, telling the paps to shush.
Most of us would not put our children in that situation and most of us have set times for our kids’ naps and have them home in their own bed rather than sleeping wherever they have to because that’s where they are when they can no longer stay awake. I’m not for having kids’ taking naps wherever because the parents are on the go. I think it would be strange and a bit scary to wake up having no clue where you even are. But that’s just me.
how else can she go anywhere? the paps are there no matter what
gah
Please don’t forget that’s it’s the Kim and family who call the paparazzi on themselves. She not really bothered about them waking North, if she was she would stop setting up Photo op when her children are around.
There are laws that state you can’t photograph children in public without the parents permission. Which means Kim’s doing this to her own child willingly. Do not feel bad for her – feel bad for North.
As amazing as Teyana was in the video, I have to admit I’m side-eyeing the suggestion that she barely works out and eats doughnuts for breakfast. Surely a post-partum body that toned and gorgeous can’t be purely down to genetics?
I’m wondering if she counts dancing as ‘working out’?
She must dance tons and that is hard, HARD work.
Also, genetics. That butt =( I will never ever get a bum that nice, no matter the thrusts lunges and squats I do.
I’m guessing not. She likely considers “working out” to be something extra, like running or weight lifting, that she doesn’t do very often. She’s not lying around eating donuts all day that’s for damn sure. Dancing is a hell of a workout, but if that’s your job, it’s just life and not something you consider “exercise”.
Same. Teyana deserves all the finger snaps in the world for that video and I’m glad she’s getting so much attention but girl… really? I don’t even understand why they do that. Is it to seem more relatable to men? I don’t know any men who consider working out unattractive on a woman.
I dont understand the whole narrative of women who say “Oh I never excercise or watch what I eat.” When clearly they do.
Its false, and if I worked that hard on my body, I would damn sure be like “Ok I starve all the damn time and I work out til I almost pass out.”
And if that wasnt quite right, I would still say it.
IKR? Dieting and working out to achieve a body like that is nothing to be ashamed of. You shouldn’t lie about it. You should be proud!
I also had a baby in December and I look like a bowl of jello with legs so yeah, I call BS. Don’t be ashamed of working hard to keep in shape girl!
He just can’t help himself. He is incredibly talented but he’s mired in all of this bs and misogyny (and before I get yelled at for calling him a mysogonist he defended Bill Cosby case closed) and just obsessed with getting approval. Just stop.
Wait, he defended Cosby? I didn’t know that. Wow.
Lol, defending Bill Cosby in a tweet is just another drop in the sea of misogynist acts he has done over the years. He’s terrible.
I find his particular brand of misogyny very harmful. It’s not that the typical stuff you see in hip hop doesn’t bother me, but with his stuff I can sense a true hatred for women. Not just sexist standards regarding how a woman should be, but actual hatred. His obsession with Swift and Amber Rose is just disturbing.
And if he’s faking this whole thing as an act for attention (I don’t think he is, but some people throw that as an excuse)… why is that better? Why is obsessing over women, shaming them and saying extremely hateful things about them okay as long as it’s done just for attention and tabloid purposes? Commercializing misogyny like that is okay as long as you don’t actually mean it?
No shit!
Oh I found the tweet. It’s worse than I thought. Others who defend Cosby at least go the “we don’t know all the details, let us wait” route. This one, not so subtle.
Have they ever met, Kanye and Bill? Or why is he so sure of his innocence?
Oh, and I just remembered naked wax Cosby was in his video. Knowing he thinks Bill’s innocent makes it way worse than before, when I though he only did it because Cosby’s crime are so talked about this year.
No, just … no.
When at misogyny, kinda OT and I am sorry if this has been discussed already, but does anybody know what G stands for in Kanye’s speech:
“My wife is a G. Not a lot of peoples’ wives would let them say that right there. ”
I don’t really know if it’s anything misogynist, but saying not many wives would be good sports about this is really not a good sign.
G is slang for Gangster
Ah, thank you.
So she’s a gangster? Well, I can see what he means by that …
I hate to admit but Kim’s body looks amazing in that last picture. She still looks trashy don’t get me wrong.
Really making more sense why Taylor made it clear in her statement she wanted nothing to do with this pair since the beginning. Kanye really won’t leave her alone! Wonder what the obsession is about? Maybe because she’s so rich?
I believe the obsession stems from their very first encounter when he grabbed the mic from her; everyone, including the POTUS called him a jerk and a jackass. I think that was probably his first real experience with public disdain. In his immature mind with his grandiose ideas of his own importance, Taylor became the focus of his need to be accepted. In her he sees all the times he has been ridiculed and not appreciated for his “genius.” She became the embodiment of all the barriers he imagines he is fighting against. He is, indeed, obsessed.
Taylor, girl, stay away from him; don’t take his calls, don’t take his hand if he reaches out, don’t engage at all. Like any stalker it does not get better if you try to placate them, it just feeds into their mania.
And that video KK released proved nothing: unless there is an un-edited version released Taylor did not lie and she is a victim if she does not want to be called “bitch.” I wish everyone would stop giving Kim props for this. Team Swifty.
Kanye described the lyric very explicitly and she aproved it.
But I agree with everything else and as I said upthread, I don’t understand why that video makes Kanye look any better. It just makes Taylor look bad.
Josefina Watch the video; he talks about the “might still have sex” lyrics, NOT the “I made that BITCH famous” lyrics. That is Taylor’s whole argument, that she heard one and not the other. In one part of the video she says to Kanye, “If people ask me about it I can say he called me and told me THE LINE.” And once again, we cannot know the whole truth without a unedited video. That is the only way to know the whole truth. I am not even a Taylor Swift fan, just a fan of LOGIC, which this situation has none.
@RLH, in the past, I, and I do not like Taylor, have tried to explain why that heavily edited, badly spliced video showing less than two minutes of a much longer conversation proves nothing other than Kim having a video cut to show what she wants. It would never be admissible in any court as proof of what anyone actually said – and that is how I approach anything that somebody asserts as evidence. But people don’t want to hear it. The truth is somewhere between what Taylor and Kanye claim and in nothing Kim has done. Meanwhile, he continues to go after her every single chance he gets. There is something wrong with him and it needs to stop.
@RLH
I felt that was a rather poor defense considering what she did aprove. So you’re okay with him saying you owe him sex based on a mistake he did, but you don’t want him to call you “bitch” and say you became famous because of it?
I do think the video was heavily edited and obviously there was stuff left out but what we did see and what Taylor did aprove is bad enough. I don’t care that she threw Kanye under the bus at the Grammy speech. I care that she goes around waving the feminist flag while being fine with stuff like that. The video showed Taylor has a lot more control of what’s put out there about her than what she wants us to believe, making her whole victim schtick questionable.
Still I want to point out that while I’m not a Taylor fan, I don’t actively hate her either. She’s annoying but I don’t understand how people can have so much vitriol for someone so bland and boring.
The snake emoji is so played out and old. Yawn. Tired of the bandwagon nonsense. Kanye is obsessed with this woman and no one wants to call it for what it is. He hasn’t shut it since 2009 and no her half truth/lie against him doesn’t all of a sudden make it ok either – you deal with this man and get back to me, especially when he puts you NAKED in a video. (I would also question his obsession with Beyoncé but that seems more Stan like I guess??) What’s funny to me is If a man acted like this out in the “everyday world” to one of your friends or family members, many of you would be so concerned and upset because “something seems off about this dude, and not right and why can’t he move on”. But because it’s Kayne it’s funny. Right? Snake emoji, snake emoji!! So funny! *rolls eyes* And before anyone starts I am not a Taylor fan, look back through the comments over the years if you need proof- however the whole situation is nonsense to me. And this wouldn’t fly in normal life. Why can’t he just leave her alone?
ITA and all the applause for you.
Everything you said!
The fact that people dislike her so much they are willing to overlook his blatant sexual exploitation of her naked likeness without consent is what’s really gross to me.
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I completely agree.
I love that album. Just finished listening to Monster, Niki Manaj’s rap on that song is awesome.
Regardless of his personal flaws, he’s an incredibly innovative artist.
I honestly believe that Kanye is different when he’s not being filmed or in front of an audience. I’m sure at home he’s probably a nice guy who dotes on his wife. With that being said, he’s got a huge need for attention and he keeps dragging Taylor up because mentioning her creates a wave of attention that he thrives on. Why is he still mentioning Amber as well? Just because you were once in a relationship with someone doesn’t mean that you own them forever? Move the hell on. He gets carried away and he ends up sounding like he’s legitimately mentally unwell. It’s immaturity and what I refer to as “the only child complex.”
On another note, aside from her obviously fake butt, I have to say I think Kim looks gorgeous these days.
I really dislike North’s dress. I just don’t think Kim’s clothing style is appropriate for a kid. She’s so cute otherwise.
I hate to say it, but it looks stripper-ish.
ITA. They always dress that child so inappropriately. Even Kim’s clothes aren’t that tacky. It’s plain wrong IMO. And the chockers are dangerous beyond being really suggestive. I just hate to see that child so cute and innocent being dressed in that way she can’t understand nor handle.
Man, even a 18-years-old shouldn’t dress like that.
“I just hate to see that child so cute and innocent being dressed in that way she can’t understand nor handle.”
I agree. I think a leopard print on a t-shirt or tennis shoes would be different. But leopard on a slip with lace on it looks too much like lingerie for a toddler.
The choker is a strangulation hazard.
I was going to say it’s a terrible choice . Guess they’re trying for the sexy toddler vibe? Ugh disgusting, please don’t let her go Kylie’s way…
Okay I watched bits of the Fade music video. Teyana’s body was just incredible especially after giving birth. So I went for a run after watching the video…That’s all i got.
Wonder if Kim might be a bit jealous of the attention that Teyana is getting for her body?
Why is North wearing a slip with black lace on the bottom? As an adult I wouldn’t wear that let alone either of my 2 little girls.
They see the kids as a smaller version of themselves. North has to dress like Kim.
Why is the 3 year old child wearing a choker?
I must have really bad taste, because I love that shot of Kim in the white shorts with the duster. She looks really good!
I think based on his comment during the VMAs and this, he’s looking for reconciliation. It won’t surprise me if he continues to make these gestures until she responds to him.
I haven’t followed him closely, but I get the impression that he doesn’t like conflict. This is the only “feud” of his that I’m familiar with. Are there others that he’s spat with over the years? I know Taylor has plenty of exes and enemies that she’s publicly dissed, but I’m not aware of the same pattern with Kanye.
Then he should have his people call her people to set it up. Privately.
THIS
Agree. It’s always best to resolve privately than publicly. I doubt Kanye will gain anything by shouting out to Taylor on social media.
While I had no issue with what he said about her in his speech, I think it was a bad move to come out on stage to the two lines that are at the heart of this feud.
“…he should have his people call her people to set it up…”
Kind of like how Taylor should have handled herself instead of putting him on blast in a Grammy acceptance speech when we now know Kanye had called her to try and put their beef behind them…?
He doesn’t like conflict? You might want to read up on what he has said about Amber Rose and then dragging her son into the middle of his rants.
Was that recent? The things I’ve seen of her in the past two months made me think that they were on better terms.
He strikes me as a passionate, emotional (perhaps unstable) man that rants and then apologizes afterwards when he realizes he’s done the wrong thing. Doesn’t think before he speaks and then has to eat crow after. I know a few people like that.
@Bonzo, she was not happy with being included in that video without consent and she made it clear.
Kanye is not afraid of conflict. He courts controversy. Not that long ago, he went on a Twitter rampage on Wiz Khalifa, Amber Rose’s baby daddy, but he later apologized to him. He’s just a toddler who rages against you for perceived slights, whether they make sense or not, but then 10 minutes later will love on you like nothing happened.
“George Bush doesn’t care about black people.” In the middle of a televised program to raise money for Katrina victims while Mike Myers stood helplessly at the podium with him was NOT the statement of a man who avoids conflict or controversy.
Well in that point and time he wasn’t wrong. Bush’s response to Katrina was wayyyyyyy too slow and frankly shameful to say the least.
He’s had so many public outburts. Most people don’t take him seriously because he rambles (and IMO is mentally ill) but he has feuded with many, many people. He has had so many behind the scenes tantrums that have been videotaped and ended up on ET etc. Taylor is a mean girl sure but Kanye is the kind of guy that everyone treats with kid gloves and basically excuse his awful behavior.
From what I have observed following him, Kanye wants very much to be loved by his peers, it matters A LOT to him. But he truly has no filters and often outbursts, he lacks social skills too. That’s why he always yell then apologize (to his peers, I repeat), or even apologizes while yelling. He is passionate, genuine, insecure and emotionally immature, so there.
He is not a man of conflict. He doesn’t actively seek it for the sake of it. I don’t think a black man saying “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” does this for conflict or controversy. He was saying his mind. That’s what he does.
He is not obsessed with TS and never have been, he probably wants to make up because he respects her status and I believe he wants her to like him, not in a personal way but he wants her to see him as a colleague, if that makes sense. Kanye West doesn’t want war, he wants to be accepted (again, by his peers). But first, he doesn’t have a clue how to do it with people who aren’t already kissing his ass or working in his field. Second, he struggles as a black man with huge ambition in a merciless industry.
TS took advantage of all of the above during Famousgate. That’s why she will always be the Snake Emoji.
If this were true, surely Taylor is not the only artist he would want respect from? And yet he targets her bizarrely often.
And I have no idea how he could think a naked wax figure and a B word would make her respect him. Or to let Kim do what she did. Or the speech at VMAs. Or now this. No, I don’t buy it. He is obsessed. Not necessarily sexually, but whatever it is, it’s creepy. If he were not famous, this type of behaviour wouldn’t be waved away as not a big deal.
Jeanpierre, you articulated my feelings about Kanye way better than I could. I’ve always felt kind of protective of him.
I wouldn’t hold him saying “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” against him. In the wake of Katrina that was pretty obvious and enraging.
He wants her to see him as a colleague? In the average workplace practicing progressive discipline , a person would have gone through some written reprimands, at least one suspension, and be facing termination for the things he has done to her. BTW, calling a woman a “bitch” at work constitutes hate speech under federal law.
Yeah, she would too. Thankfully they don’t share a workplace as You probably know. I don’t meant colleague as in coworkers. Those Famous lines are cohérent with the song and the video made for That song. You may think it’s all in poor taste but it’s not the same as being called a btch in your workplace and TS may think it’s all in poor taste too but she perfectly understood That.
The B word is always in poor taste.
The only context this word is OK in is when you’re referring to a female dog. Literally.
That use is common in entertainment. See also Britney Spears. Actually I would have sided with Taylor (I did at first) is she didn’t have a get-ahead of the lines and cleared it. But she did. So, I think those lyrics are in poor taste as some others on TLOP, but since she knew and had no problem with it, I won’t get my panties in a bunch over that b word case. And I’m not even talking about how she proved then she was totally one.
But that word is not common in Taylor’s music. What does it matter if Britney uses it, or if Kim thinks it’s a compliment? I have more issues with these two being OK with it than Swift not being OK with it. But I don’t socialise with people who’d call me that, nor would I stay on good terms with people who would, nor I listen to music where it’s used, so that’s why I can see Taylor’s side, but not his.
And no, the B line was never approved. This word was stated as the main issue back in February and, look at that, it is not on Kim’s tape. That’s why I think it’s all a misunderstanding: she approved some lines, he added more – random to him, offensive to her, because they’re very different – she felt betrayed, then he felt betrayed. A silly situation.
You’re right. Taylor uses wh*re. That’s also why I don’t really care about all that.
I won’t get in again with the timeline of Taylor’s lies, that was broke down a long time ago. Horse is dead.
But she used that as an insult. He used this as a friendly term. And she took it as an insult, because that’s what the word really is. There’s the whole difference.
The whole what?
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Have a good night.
Just a note I have no quarrel with Kanye calling out GW for his utter incompetence in his handling of Katrina however that’s really the only time he honed his anger in an intellectual way at a warranted target. Almost every other outburst has been an ego fest and considering his outbursts behind the scenes at SNL and awards shows were released to embarrass him I’m going to guess that’s the way he is whenever the mood strikes him not just for the camera.
If he really, truly, honestly respected her, as a woman and a human being, he would take her at her word and leave her alone. Maybe reach out to her privately if the ongoing “feud” really eats at him that much. But only privately. No more public antics, which she has made explicitly clear that she doesn’t want to be involved in.
She shouldn’t have dragged him publicly at the grammys all based on lies then. I someone pulled a stunt like Taylor did on me I would go public too. He was slandered in front of everyone and has every right to defend himself publicly.
I’ve written enough about Kanye, so I’ll write something about Kim. I like this face for her. It’s pretty. I wonder how many weeks it’ll last.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
He proved that Taylor lied, well Kim did. He really needs to let this go. The nude doll, the constant rehash, and now this? It’s starting to get creepy.
Post-VMAs Kimye got together Beyonce, Jay, Diddy, Swizz Beatz and Alicia Keys. I’m having fun imagining a conversation wherein his peers/mentors advise him to squash this beef with Taylor. And anyway, I don’t think Kanye has any interest in actually staying Taylor’s enemy. There’s nothing he loves more in the world than people who are good at being famous and Taylor fits that bill.
Don’t think he should be taken seriously at all although his obsession with pretending to be obsessed with Taylor Swift (my opinion) is embarrassing for his wife. She is the mother of his offspring, show some respect. And I’m by no means a Kim K fan.
She doesn’t seem embarrassed in the video of her at the art gallery when she leans over the naked Taylor sculpture and laughs.
I wonder if she’d find it so funny if it was her daughter’s naked likeness being displayed without her consent…
Kanye is gross. His obsession with Taylor is gross. I don’t understand how people still praise him as a genius.
My dad always used to say “there is a VERY fine line between genius and insanity”. I think Kanye is just confused as to which side of the line he is on cuz it sure AF isn’t “genius”.
Taylor is just as gross.
On a purely superficial level, Kim does look gorgeous and these two most definitely blessed with equally beautiful children.
As much as we all collectively know how much the Kardashians pimp themselves out, at the end of the day-Kim and Kanye despite any/all of their faults are still human beings. As such, like all of us, they are not perfect.
I will never condone the level of vitriol and hate for her. I’m sorry-while I question many of her fashion choices,,,,she is gorgeous to me. She sustains a business and is raising a family, yes, even with all her help,,,in the public eye which I understand she chose. Just one time, give the woman a break.
That’s Humble the Poet ( a youtuber and author/musician) that is wearing that t-shirt. Why did Kanye cut off his face?
Because only Kanye and his desperate need to dominate a woman matter.
Please calm down.
What? He got a close up of the shirt which caused the man’s head to go out of frame.
Dominate a woman? Back to the veranda for your meds.
Probably doesn’t want him to get sued. Taylor owns the rights to that image.
Humble the Poet posted the full sized pic on his twitter with Kanye standing next to him so I don’t think that’s the issue.
Ugh Kanye . I used to defend him so hard. I know T Swift gets no respect on this site but the way he’s treated her and punished her for his actions for like 8 years, i’m over it. He is acting like a bully, period.
Swift never did shit to him. Shes also like 10 years younger and i think a teen when he started this..He thinks he’s better than her. I like his music better than hers but he’s not better than anybody.
Wow. Re-watch her Grammy acceptance speech. Precious Taylor has meted out more than her fair share of punishment.
He is a vapid, infantile fool, his wife is a vapid, plastic mess. And I’m seriously baffled at the amount of tolerance shown towards these two morons on this site when far less offensive – not to mention far more talented and personable celebs – never catch a break.
Just ugh.
And his obsession with Swift is now bordering on disturbing.
Are people really that tolerant of them though?
Like what kind of level of vitriol do you think is appropriate?
I totally agree Guesto. It’s baffling. The two of them contribute nothing to society .
She needs to sue him for illegal use of her album art and donate all funds to the flood victims in Louisiana, as she has been doing. Remember those people in Louisiana, Kvntye? The ones you accused of being ignored for being minorities? The ones you have done NOTHING for?
Great point! But they sure let everyone know about Kimmie’s new 10 million dollar ring.
I don’t think Taylor is playing anymore. The more he brings her up the more obsessed he looks. Another thing that I saw on another blog stated that at the awards few white artists showed. They called it “white flight”. I had not picked up on that. After I read it I got the feeling that awards are kind of dying. The ratings went down again. I just think that people in general find the rant this man did embarrassing and don’t want to be associated with this kind if drama.
The name needs to be changed from the VMAs to the TMAs – the TIDAL Music Awards. I didn’t watch for the first time since the VMAs first started and YES, I am THAT old!
My dad always used to say “there is a VERY fine line between genius and insanity”. I think Kanye is just confused as to which side of the line he is on cuz it sure AF isn’t “genius”.
I’m just here for the outfits. They give me cartoon eyes. I’m not sure what it all is, but it’s why I like to look. Kanye is a man of too many words. He’s a blustery uncle and Tay is the dramatic auntie. It’s all good.
Taylor is just as obsessed with Kanye as he is with her, she’s just very good at manipulating people into not realizing it. Hisssssssss…
She’s obsessed with him so hard that she ignores him unless he pokes us? Devious tactic indeed!
Uh…She wasn’t ignoring him with her Grammys speech.
Bunnybear, exactly. This “feud” was ignited by Taylor’s inflammatory Grammys speech. Had she addressed any issues with him privately, we’d have nothing to talk about here. Her own words show she loves to hang others out to dry to make herself look better,
‘Ye went out of his way to be nice to her, she clearly still had a problem with him, and instead of, oh, I don’t know, IGNORING IT or CALLING HIM UP LIKE A GROWN UP, she puts him on blast in a nasty, sanctimonious Grammy acceptance speech.
Taytay didn’t do it because she was “hurt”, she did it because she’s not afraid to throw someone under the bus for attention, didn’t think she’d get caught, and knew that in any event people would ignore logic and receipts to go out of their way to take her side, as illustrated by most of the comments on this post. She is gross.
But the Grammy speech was just after he called her the B word in the song. That’s where she first heard it. So – in a children’s terminology – he started it here too.
He jumped on the stage in 2009; they buried the hatchet together; he called her about the song; he added some lyrics; she reacted at the Grammys; he was hurt; he made the video with (among others) her naked wax doll; his wife published the conversation; he posted this pic.
Have I left something out (except press statements and interviews and the like that relate to these events, they both talked about this a lot, but that’s all secundary)? Because if I haven’t, this is obviously heavily leaning to one side.
I don’t buy that she didn’t already know he was going to use the “made that b**** famous…” line, as that is the hook of the song and she has literally been proven to be a liar when it benefits her, but some people just don’t want to be convinced.
For years Kanye pretty much ignored Taylor while she talked about him constantly and wrote a song about him and others that reference him.Then SHE reached out to HIM during her ‘collect all the friends’ phase, they were friendly for a short while, and then she stabbed him in the back.
She’s the one who spent years building her image around what he did to her, and she’s the one who wanted him in her life for the PR. Even when she was at her worst and couldn’t go one interview without mentioning Kanye, no one ever said she was obsessed. It was fine for her to play the victim for years, but Kanye does it for a few months and he’s a crazy stalker? Seriously?
PREACH.
Actually if Kanye never did anything, this wouldn’t have happened.
But whatever. I’m team not a fan of all above.
No, that’s called blame shifting and not owning what belongs to each person. Taylor isn’t responsible for Kanye and what he does. She is only responsible for what SHE does. Kanye (no matter how awful his lyrics are) doesn’t MAKE Taylor call him out from the Grammy stage. She chose that option when better, more mature ones were available to her, such as ignore him and not address it or give him any more attention or talk to him privately.