Donald Trump on his accuser Natasha Stoynoff: ‘Look at her… I don’t think so’

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Time Magazine is really delivering some spectacular covers this election season. Behold, this week’s Time cover, “Total Meltdown.” It’s meant to visually mimic their cover in August, which was simple “Meltdown.” Similar graphic, only now the orange face is melting. I actually sat here and read Time’s full cover story – go here to read – and I came out of the article really, really worried. Like, at this point, I really do believe that Hillary Clinton is going to win. That’s not the issue. The issue is how f—king awful it’s going to be in the lead up to Election Day, and the bloodbath within the GOP which will follow the election.

Meanwhile, Trump is probably mulling over a new slogan, from Make America Great Again to, perhaps, No P-ssy Left Ungrabbed. Yesterday, we discussed the five women who had told their stories Wednesday evening to various media outlets. One of those women is Natasha Stoynoff, a longtime journalist for People Magazine. Natasha’s story of being sexually assaulted and harassed by Trump was heartbreaking, creepy and scary. Natasha’s story also got a lot of attention yesterday, and Trump paid special attention to how he denied the allegations:

Speaking in West Palm Beach, Florida, Trump argued that stories in the New York Times and People magazine were “pure fiction” and “outright lies” created to undermine his campaign. He also argued that he had “substantial evidence” to dispute them that he will make public later.

“These vicious claims about me of inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. And the Clintons know it, and they know it very well,” he said. “These claims are all fabricated. They’re pure fiction, and they’re outright lies. These events never, ever happened.”

Reading off a Teleprompter at his Thursday rally, Trump barely contained his anger as his unleashed a series of allegations of his own, claiming that the media is coordinating with Hillary Clinton’s campaign in an attempt to ruin his candidacy. Trump responded to two allegations directly during his speech. Of Jessica Leeds, who told the Times that Trump grabbed her breasts on an airplane, Trump said: “Another ridiculous tale, no witnesses, no nothing.” And of People writer Natasha Stoynoff, who said Trump pushed her up against a wall and kissed her without her consent while she was writing a profile, Trump seemed to imply that her looks prove he would not have wanted to kiss her.

“Look at her, look at her words, you tell me what you think,” he said. “I don’t think so. I don’t think so. These people are horrible people. They’re horrible, horrible liars. And interestingly, it happens to appears 26 days before our very important election. Isn’t that amazing?”

Trump also claimed that the “invented account” has “already been debunked by eyewitnesses,” which isn’t true.

[From Time Magazine & Jezebel]

“Look at her, look at her words, you tell me what you think. I don’t think so.” Yeah, Donald Trump only sexually assaults the most beautiful, classy women in the world, people! What do you think he is, a savage? He’s not going to assault some *journalist* who works for People Magazine. This reminds me of what one of his sons said about sexual harassment in the work place, which is basically that affluent, educated women don’t get harassed. And to Donald Trump, the only women worth assaulting and harassing are the beautiful ones.

Not that it matters, but Natasha Stoynoff is beautiful. Look at her and you tell me what you think. Yeah.

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  1. Onerous says:

    God, he is vile. He is like the worst of everything all rolled into one person. It’/ almost unfathomable.

    • Belle Epoch says:

      + 100

    • Rice says:

      You know, I was chatting with Mr. Rice and he said that this disgusting, putrid, orange piece of sh*t probably either, A) Thinks that it’s his right as a white allegedly rich male to grope and assault women, B) He doesn’t think that what he’s doing is wrong (“I’m a star so these chicks definitely want it”) or C) BOTH.

    • doofus says:

      he’s also saying that he’s got “email proof” that these women are lying and that all of this mountain of evidence will be release “at the appropriate time”

      b*tch, NOW is the appropriate time! when else would you release a defense but RIGHT AFTER the accusations go public?

      just like all of the “tremendous, amazing” things he claims his investigators found on Obama’s birth cert when they were “investigating” in Hawaii….he’s got BUPKUS.

      • Santia says:

        Yes, isn’t that the way tRump works? He has evidence. Tremendous evidence. The evidence is yuge. Believe him. It’ll be the best evidence ever … Meanwhile, we’re still waiting on the evidence that the President was born in Kenya. We’re still waiting on the evidence that Melania immigrated legally and didn’t have a sham marriage to get her green card. We’re still waiting on his tax returns. And we’ll be waiting for this evidence forever too.

      • KWM says:

        Oh yeah just like how during the height of his birther phase he kept saying he had private detectives in HI and they are finding all kinds of interesting and damaging things and he is going to release it all…at the right time.

      • Bubbles says:

        He’s waiting for the IRS tax audit to be finished so he can release ALL of his #BigLeague information at the same time.

        Has this obese Tangerine clown ever looked in a real mirror with any objectivity? He is grotesque.

      • Erica_V says:

        @Santia – I laughed so hard at “it’ll be the best evidence ever…’ thank you for that

      • AnnaKist says:

        I’m surprised he hasn’t come out and said something like, “Oh, come on! It was soooo long ago! I’ve come a long way since then! And I apologised! Blahblahblah…” Or have I missed this? The problem, as we all know, is that these filthy bastards never change. He was likely the same as an adolescent, and since he won’t even acknowledge what a despicable creep he is, is unlikely to ever change.

    • Alix says:

      I’m running out of epithets to hurl at this cretin.

    • Dippit says:

      I tend to use the word ‘vile’ with some reservation – I think it a powerful word much like the word ‘hate’ (also a word I rarely use). But Trump is vile and I hate everything that he embodies in one vile person. I hate the ‘permission’ his message has given to others to plumb their own wells of vile.

      On the flip-side I love that so many are now calling him out as vile and are doing so with noble expression and intent.

      On a side-note, perhaps irrelevant but, he really does lack greatly in eloquence even when reading a prepared piece off autocue.

    • tealily says:

      …And then half the country turns around and goes, “that’s my guy!”

  2. lightpurple says:

    So, no witnesses means a sexual assault didn’t happen? What about rape, Donald? They’re usually aren’t too many witnesses to that either.

    The NYT response letter to his attorneys yesterday was brilliant.

    http://www.nytco.com/the-new-york-timess-response-to-donald-trumps-retraction-letter/

    • anon says:

      Bahaha, I love their use of the law to shut him down. He thinks he can just threaten people and make them shut up. He sealed his tomb with his own words.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah I’m glad you linked that because I wanted to say how impressed I am with the NYT for being so unafraid of this asshole. So much respect for that publication.

      • Saks says:

        Yes, but this morning it was reported in Mexican media that Trump wants to sue Carlos Slim (NYT’s largest shareholder) for defamation, because of their news and articles about him.

      • Tina says:

        Trump isn’t suing anyone. He always threatens to, and never does.

    • doofus says:

      yup, they basically said “Bring it, Donny.”

      they have the law on their side, and his threat is just that, only a threat. he’s used to being able to threaten his accusers into silence but not the NYT. he will NEVER want to bring this to trial with all of the thing that will come out…witness testimony, audio/video, etc.

    • sherry says:

      I loved their response!

    • holly hobby says:

      Oh yeah NYT’s response is gold. I think their attys vetted all the stories before they ran it so I tend to believe the stories are true.

      US Weekly has an article about the NY Post digging out an old Stern interview with this one and his reject kids. Robin basically called him out as a sexual predator and he sort of nodded and went yup. Ivanka even patted him on the back. It’s on video. He cannot say it was misconstrued. Ivanka and Donnie sure looked different then too.

      Go to that site and look at it.

    • Veronica says:

      I actually had to google verify that letter to believe it was actually sent by a professional newspaper. Somebody had a blast writing that, probably with a few glasses of finely aged wine in them to set the mood.

  3. Tifzlan says:

    Every time, EVERY SINGLE TIME, i don’t think he could get more despicable than he already is, i am unfortunately proved wrong. He’s so disgusting, there are literally no words i can use to convey what a terrible garbage truck of a human being he is.

    • frisbee says:

      A waste of human organs springs to mind. Or how about a superficially vile sack of useless matter?

      • frisbee says:

        just effing, effing, effing h*ll – if these people had a brain they’d be dangerous

      • Lorelai says:

        Jesus Christ, those Twitter photos! Who are these people?

      • AnnaKist says:

        I feel the same way, frisbee. I can’t recall when Australian media covered an American election so widely and heavily. We also have many people here who believe Australia needs a Trump; people who seem fine with sweeping his deplorable, unacceptable and intolerable behaviour under the carpet. because his polices are “what we need”. It’s mind-boggling, especially considering the number of politicians who have been ousted for far less. Even our most recent ex-Prime Minister (chucked out in September 2015) weighed in a couple of days ago to defend Trump. But then, he copped (still cops) a lot of flak for his 1950’s views on women, too.

        I’m with you many of you – vile, obnoxious, grotesque, sleazy, sociopathic…just don’t fully express how I feel about this vermin.

      • EM says:

        At this point, it’s not him but his supporters that I’m really angry at. I’m not proud of myself but I’ve actually started giving the finger to anyone I pass with a Trump sticker on their car. I’m also not holding back with comments on other sites, although I limit my exposure in self-preservation, but honestly eff off people!

    • LAK says:

      I’m only surprised that anyone is surprised. Or that these revelations are being discussed as some great gotcha.

      The man has never hidden his disgusting behaviour. He has never backed down from any microphone, taken an opportunity to be classy or not said horrid things about anyone.

      He has been in the news every single year since the 80s, and probably earlier, saying or doing terrible things. He has never hidden these things. He is not a Bill Cosby who pretended one thing in public whilst doing something else in private.

      Is it collective amnesia that people are now SHOCKED by him and his misdeeds?

      He has been inappropriate in public for a long time such that it hasn’t required special skills or Hilary/Dem/REP to lift a finger to find examples of his awfulness.

      I say all this to say that i can not believe he got this far given skeletons dancing around him – no hidden skeletons here and i can’t believe that anyone is shocked by any ‘revelations. If a person is known to be awful, who continued to be awful as he campaigned, can ‘revelations’ really be revealed? Isn’t it a given that any ‘revelations’ will be awful and were undertaken without a blush on his part and in the full glare of media because this person is awful and has never been any other way?

      It’s like being shocked that a career criminal committed lots of crimes.

      • Tifzlan says:

        Well i wasn’t alive in the 80s and had no interest in him or his empire or his family beyond the first season of The Apprentice, which first aired when i was 11. I truly had absolutely no idea he was this terrible of a human being. I say i’m surprised because i didn’t think ONE person could be that degenerate. From the racist things he has said about President Obama (and everyone else, of course), to the violence he incites at his rallies, to his demeaning comments AND actions towards women – it’s like he is a caricature come to life. You would think people have limits when it comes to being a morally deplete POS, but…. well, maybe i’m just still a naive 23 year old. God help me.

      • jwoolman says:

        Exactly. It’s not as though we saw a kinder, gentler Donald Trump in public. This has always been the way he is and he doesn’t hide it. He’s trying to deny it now only because of the bad reaction, but he still can’t get that denial right so he keeps slipping in evidence that yeah, this is the way he still is. But he’s been very open and proud about his creepiness in the past. The only shock to me is that people are shocked.

      • LAK says:

        My point is that he has always been awful. Always. Never hidden it and never tried to be anything else.

        His candidacy for POTUS hasn’t changed that. He is being the same Donald Trump he has always been and isn’t modifying his behaviour one bit.

        The Apprentice made him seem nice enough, but everyone was sucking up to him for obvious reasons plus his poor behaviour would have been edited out.

        Yet his media outside of the show remained awful.

        Since he announced his candidacy for POTUS, opening salvo,’ Mexicans are rapists’, he has behaved unsurprisngly appallingly at every turn. The fact he keeps winning is vindicating his appalling behaviour.

        What is shocking is that people ARE voting for him.

      • Tifzlan says:

        LAK: i agree with you that the fact that he STILL has diehard voters and supporters is truly what is shocking. Yes, i am aware of what a nasty person he is, but only because i’ve been closely paying attention to this election. Prior to this, i wasn’t aware of him whatsoever. Since he stepped onto that podium to announce his candidacy, he has never not said something positive about anyone or anything. We’ve all heard the racist, sexist garbage he has spewed over the last few months and the worms he has brought out from the woodwork in the process. It’s ugly, he’s ugly and the effects of this election will be felt for a long, long time.

      • mee says:

        it’s true but most people weren’t really paying too much attention to trump. i was around in the 80s and only vaguely remember him as a bloated egomaniac cheater on his big-haired gaudy wife. and I barely watched the apprentice.

        what is truly weird is that the media has known this about the Donald but no one in the media really went after him for the longest time during the primaries or even after. obama earlier this summer referred to donald’s nomination as one the media (even the liberal, legitimate, and NOT-Fox) has been complicit in and it’s true. but now, the media has finally woken up to say, WTF, we can’t let this happen?! of course it made for great ratings and readership over the election and donald has even created a gateway on this celeb gossip site into politics! also maybe this is what everyone wanted -reports are that hillary preferred running against this clown (b/c hopefully yes it’s a landslide) and we might be looking at a closer race with cruz and not trump. sadly the whole process has brought out all the clowns and barbarians and made our country a sad spectacle.

      • KWM says:

        I am shocked and revolted by what I hear friends say. They still think he is the lesser of two evils. That he is going to be the one to save the world. These are people who are small business owners, educated.

      • holly hobby says:

        I’m not shocked. I’ve watched most of the seasons of Apprentice and the things that flies out of his mouth is a HR person’s nightmare. Man was literally a sexual harrassment lawsuit waiting to happen.

        Meredith Viera also said she was not surprised by any of this.

        What is interesting was US Weekly said his campaign team for months wanted to do opposition research on him – in case they need to defend him if any bad news show up. Orangino wouldn’t let them. The AH video shows up and now they are scrambling.

  4. greenmonster says:

    Disgusting POS.

  5. Soror Bro says:

    It’ll be interesting to see who wins the Time person of the year. Personally I think it should go to the general public for having to put up with all this BS.

    • Ninks says:

      Michelle Obama. If it’s not her, we riot.

      • Alix says:

        It’ll be Trump. People tend to think that “Persan of the Year” is an award of some kind — it’s not. It’s simply a designation of someone who the magazine thinks, for better or worse, affected the news the most that year. Trump. For worse.

      • doofus says:

        Alix, though you are correct about the POTY, Drumpf (and his deplorable supporters) would see it as an “award” and crow about it. which is why I think they’d be stupid to name him.

        what they should do is name Clinton so that, if she wins the election and then gets the cover of TIME, he’ll “lose” twice. just to stick it to him.

  6. frisbee says:

    I look at him and think exactly the same thing.

  7. anon says:

    All anyone has to do to debunk his claims is look at Marla Maples. She was no great beauty either. But honestly, the fact that he has me needing to say this, disgusts me. It isn’t like women who aren’t pretty don’t have any value… but that’s what he wants us to think.

    • Kitten says:

      Really? I always thought she was quite pretty..most certainly out of his league, but then again aren’t they all?

      • Cannibell says:

        I thought Marla was lovely too, Kitten. But outside of that – everyone talking about the vileness and lies – you’re all expressing what so many of us out here think.

  8. Christin says:

    Even with the giant pile of garbage that has been produced, I still worry that it’s going to be a close election. Some voters may be so disgusted that they sit this one out, which is the opposite of what should happen. Or, they assume he cannot win.

    It’s not over until the polls close.

  9. Soprano says:

    Not only is Stoynoff beautiful, she is EXACTLY his type…blonde, tall, and athletic. See Ivana, Marla, Megyn Kelly, Ivanka…point is her story is EXTREMELY believable, allegations aside.

    • Tris says:

      Yeah, and men only rape beautiful women, right?

      • Emily says:

        I mean, reasonable people know that rape/sexual assault isn’t all about attraction and is usually more about proving you can exert power over someone. I think the sticking point here is Donald himself is saying “look at her. Why would I be interested in someone who looks like that?” He’s hoping you’ll conjure up some troll-woman, or super-nerdy, disheveled journalist type. So then when you see a picture of a conventionally attractive woman…he just looks even more ridiculous.

      • Scootypuffjr says:

        I was never a Trump fan, but now even the sight of his face disgusts me. And clearly he doesn’t understand that rape has little to do with attraction, and everything to do with subjugation. As someone who’s been date-raped, it insults me that someone insists that somehow pretty girls are the only worthy rape targets. NO ONE is a worthy rape target! No, Donald. Just no.

    • jwoolman says:

      He still claims Machado gained 60-70 pounds after winning Miss Universe, even though just glancing at her photos and videos make it clear that wasn’t true. It’s as though as soon as a woman crosses him, he thinks she is no longer beautiful and has gained gobs of weight, and assumes everybody else will believe him despite evidence in front of their own eyes to the contrary.

      And yet when he looks in the mirror, he sees himself as he was when he was 35. That’s what he told Dr. Oz when asked.

    • Wren33 says:

      Your list made me do a double-take and LOL….

  10. Lindy79 says:

    His default response is always an attack on a womans appearance. I f*cking hate him with every fibre of my being. Between all this crap and him allegedly calling Marlee Martin the R word because she’s deaf…. this is a presidential candidate… i just… nope.

    And what makes me SO angry is this info is not new, why didnt this bull come out during the primaries?? The media have always known what he is, his racism and xenophobia were ok?? why did it get this far??

    • Sasha says:

      Because of ratings. He was good for entertainment and they kept egging him on. Year after year they gave him a platform to spew his garbage. They took an asshole narcissist and created a godzilla monster. When he loses the election he’ll be on tv all day every day for goddamn years. Someone needs to invent a Trump block for my remote.

    • Kitten says:

      You greatly underestimate the Right’s Islamophobia.

      Look, if all of this had come out sooner, it wouldn’t have had a dramatic affect on his level of support. As commenters said above, he’s always been a sh*tty human being. Those of us who were alive in the 80s and 90s know this.

      The sad part is that it’s the racism and xenophobia that’s appealing to his base. Those are two core components of the “hard-working, *traditional* values, conservative white man” narrative that the has formed the core of the GOP identity for the past 30 plus years.

      • Santia says:

        Not just Islamophobia, it’s xenophobia. tRump didn’t get a national platform UNTIL he said that Mexicans were rapists and murderers and he was going to build a wall to keep them out. When he doubled down on it, they were rapturous.

    • Abbess Tansy says:

      Money. Its all about the money and ratings.

    • EM says:

      Let’s be honest he had a lot of people at Mexican … disgusting POS – disgusting POS groupies.

  11. OTHER RENEE says:

    When I read the dozens and dozens of pro Trump responses to these new allegations in another site (DM), I actually start to feel my heart race. Same thing with the FLOTUS speech. There are just so many people who close their eyes to anything negative that is said about this dirtbag. It amazes me.

    • Alarmjaguar says:

      Exactly, vote, vote, vote! I can’t believe the people on my FB feed who are still supporting him (most are relatives or I would have dumped them long ago) or who keep talking about both candidates being the same, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!

    • Santia says:

      I wish I could post the pictures of the women at his rallies with t-shirts reading “Trump can grab my” with an arrow pointing downward. I despair for humanity at this point.

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        I saw it. The saddest part is not only is that woman..um…not Donnie’s type, but she would actually get fired from one of his golf courses for not being pretty enough.

        The self-loathing is palpable.

      • EM says:

        Trump groupies is what they are and there is no redemption. The problem is that if he wins (& I still think it’s going to happen) we are all screwed because it will be all scapegoating. If he loses these people are truly dangerous and I fear for the rest of us. Let’s face it most of us normal people – strive for better, try to compromise, for the most part move on after a loss and don’t have stockpiles of weapons. We work, pay taxes and fund this country in higher numbers than his groupies and if he won I wish that we could pull our funding and tell them all to eff off (we can’t but it would be nice).

  12. Tiffany27 says:

    Not that it matters, but she is gorgeous. I’m looking at the 538 blog every single day. I’m optimistic, but still scared. We cannot let this beast into the White House.

  13. AppleAnna says:

    Everytime this disgusting turd opens his mouth I think it’s impossible that many people will vote for him. But there are so many. Even here in Germany many people are defending him, saying that we need someone like him, because Angela Merkel is bringing the country down. Our countries go through similar problems right know referring to politics. Too much hate, too much rasicm and people like Trump are taking advantage of this. This man is dangerous. Please please don’t make him the next President.

    • Patricia says:

      My sister is an American living in Germany, she has been there for several years. In the last few months she gets asked constantly “what is going on in America? How can anyone support Trump? What is happening to the American people?” And she has no answer to give, except that she is just as shocked.

      I wonder if Germans who support him just don’t want to talk to her about it because they know most Americans hate him? I’m going to tell her what you shared though, and she can say “don’t ask me, find a German Trump supporter. They exist!”

    • Valois says:

      Tbh I think “many” is a bit of an overstatement. Too many, for sure, but I’d say we’re talking about 10-15 %.

  14. Lucy2 says:

    Classic predator deflection.
    He belongs in jail. Maybe he and Cosby can share a cell?

  15. Sixer says:

    He is truly loathsome.

    But I agree with you, Kaiser. Clinton winning, which presumably she will, won’t be the end of it. A great many people who have been let out of the box by Trump’s campaign, and who feel vindicated by it, will be on the loose and very angry.

    No idea how the US as a country will go about talking these people down from the ledge but someone’s going to have to try.

    Politics seems irretrievably polarised and worrying all around the world. I find it very depressing.

    • Alix says:

      Talk them down from the edge? Oh hell, let ’em jump. Good riddance.

      • Sixer says:

        I understand the impulse. Honest. But you cannot have a forward-looking, productive, successful society with this level of angry division. I say that as a Brit, who would dearly love to shove some of the more militant Brexiters right off the same cliff but deep down know that would only makes things worse. At some point, the angry Trumpettes will have to be brought back into the fold – not because of love and forgiveness but because the United States cannot succeed unless they are. Y’know?

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        Yes it’s true that it’s difficult to have a forward-thinking society in a country that has a lot of backward-thinking inhabitants. But this isn’t just happening now, it’s been happening since Obama’s first term.

        And despite all the backward-thinkers, we’ve made incredible progress in terms of social change. So I’m with Alix in that I don’t feel any obligation to appease those that feel disenfranchised. Every election cycle, one side loses–it’s the crux of a two-party political system.

      • Sixer says:

        So you kinda think “no surrender” and, gradually, with each battle won, these people will eventually fade away? This has always been my thinking, so I can understand it.

        But events in Britain are suddenly making me think in a different way cos I thought we were moving along in a forward direction. And since the June referendum, I suddenly feel as though I’m in a completely different country.

        So now, I just don’t know. No surrender doesn’t seem to have worked! People just hid in a box and came straight back out as soon as an idiotic Pandora of a prime minister opened it.

        Oh, just sigh. Can I have a new world, please?

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        You make a good point, Six. I feel like you’re reminding us to not take things for granted and to not get complacent because the disenfranchised can mobilize when you least expect it. I think that’s great advice myself.

        But here’s the way I look at it: this US election has been really historic in that both candidates are very much disliked. People say that a different Republican candidate would have eviscerated HRC in the polls, but I think the same can be said on the other side: a different Dem candidate would have absolutely TROUNCED Trump.

        So here we have two unlikable candidates and *fingers crossed* the unlikable Dem candidate is projected to win.
        So that tells me two things: 1) The majority of Americans are forward-thinking and socially-liberal and their votes prove that. 2) The GOP got the candidate they deserve. Trump is a symbol of the fear-mongering, the hatred, the xenophobia, misogyny and racism that has been this party’s calling card for decades.
        Witnessing what is happening to the GOP right now warms my heart because they are so damn terrified of the monster they created. As I’ve said before, if one good thing came from Trump’s candidacy, it’s the havoc he wrecked on the Republican Party.

        Remember that we just came off of two terms with a Dem president, a BLACK Dem president, a black Dem socially-progressive president.
        Never in my lifetime did I ever think that I would see a black president, much less a black president who won two terms. Yes it was at a great cost in that Pres Obama’s candidacy shone a bright light on racism, but I think we’ll look back on that as a good thing. You gotta take that Band-Aid off the scab in order for it to dry out, you know? You don’t make progress with race relations if you sweep everything under the rug. No matter how painful, you have to expose these problems to have starting point from which to grown and heel.

        And now we might have a female president, which…blows my mind.

        So you know…democracy in action, rule of the majority, etc etc.

        My hope is that eventually the Trumpsters will see that they’re outnumbered, that their political and social ideals have no place in modern America and I think the giant hit that the GOP took the past year means something. I think it means that they’re a dying breed, that people are starting to see through their agenda, and that soon, they will have to drastically change their party platform or risk losing yet more support.

        But you know, ask me again after the election. I might not be so optimistic 😉

      • Sixer says:

        Well, Kitten, I like a bit of optimism, so perhaps I should just get myself back to your way of thinking! Cheers, girl. I probably needed that pep talk. 🙂

    • Lorelai says:

      That is my concern as well – what comes next. I’m no longer worried that he might win, but the Pandora’s box of hate that he’s opened up in this country (or it was there all along, but he made it more “acceptable” for people to actually be so openly awful) is going to have reverberations for decades.

  16. Christin says:

    Last night. I watched AC’s full interview with the woman who first came forward this week (the alleged plane incident).

    One of the saddest parts of her interview was when the woman (now 74) said that she realized he would likely make fun of her appearance now. She produced photos of herself as a younger woman to show what she looked like then. She is a beautiful, poised woman, yet she knew she’d be a target. And since he made fun of the very pretty People reporter, she was undoubtedly right.

    People is reportedly standing by their reporter, which is commendable.

    • holly hobby says:

      That POS Lou Dobbs just tweeted that poor woman’s address and phone number. Talk about intimidation tactics. I guess he never heard about Kelly Osbourne getting sued for this.

      This poor lady, I hoe she sues Dobbs and Fox News.

      • Abbess Tansy says:

        I just posted a link below. I hope she sues him too, the b-sterd. Terrible.

      • Santia says:

        He’s just made her rich. Good for her for having to put up with Trump and now this. Let’s hope she has a great attorney.

      • EM says:

        Does anyone know where Lou lives? It would be good to get that out along with his phone number.

  17. Esmom says:

    Oh there’s a new slogan, or at least a new hashtag, that some of his supporters are proudly trumpeting: “Grab America by the P%**y.” I saw that gem posted by a FEMALE former classmate of mine on FB. I’m sick just typing that.

    I also am fearful of these next few weeks, plus the inevitable post election bloodbath.

    • Tifzlan says:

      I literally feel like vomiting reading what you said about this new slogan business. I don’t say this ever, but this whole business is really triggering for me. Not so much the women coming out to tell their stories and listening to them, but the REACTIONS of SO. MANY. PEOPLE. who can STILL find it in their hearts to defend and dismiss Donald Trump’s words/actions as jokes. It’s part of the reason why i am so, so sick of coverage of the tapes, eventhough I know it’s important that these things come out because it torpedoes his chances of winning.

      • Kitten says:

        I completely understand because I feel the same way.

        All hyperbole aside, this man is a disgusting, vile human being.

      • LiterallyaShambles says:

        I hear you, Tifzlan. I’m with you.
        I was driving yesterday and I passed a few Trump/Pence signs, and I started outright sobbing because it feels like being stabbed in the chest, literally. It hurts so badly that people still support this man.
        And then I watched FLOTUS’s speech, and I started sobbing again, because she’s the mom we all need right now.

    • AreYouKittenMe? says:

      If you want to be completely terrified (and probably a bit depressed), look at this:

      Scroll down to the woman wearing a t-shirt that says “Hey Trump, Talk Dirty To Me” followed by a lipstick mark:

      https://twitter.com/hashtag/womenfortrump

      The internalized misogyny is just so sad.

      • Shark Bait says:

        Do you follow Occupy Democrats on facebook? They posted a picture of a woman with a shirt saying “Trump can grab my pu$$y” with a down pointing arrow.

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        Yup I saw it. I was just saying on another comment that the worst part is that Trump wouldn’t even spit on that woman.

        Those women give me major major sads.

  18. Clare says:

    More worried about the societal bloodbath than the GOP bloodbath. All those wankers who endorsed him, or looked the other way can rot with their destroyed political careers for all I care. It’s the angry, disenfranchised and possibly violent millions of Americans and their actions that I am worried about, post election.

    • Kitten says:

      Yes it is very nerve-wracking to think about what could happen. Those people are lunatics like that crazy-ass evil villain that they worship.

    • SMD says:

      Yes Claire and Sixer, I’m incredibly worried about post election. I can honestly see the far right continuing to “revolt” and show unswerving support for Pence and DT. My guess is DT is so invested now in his belief he is the only one who can save the country he will either create his own party, run for a different office or perhaps have his own political segment on Fox. Something has to be done to bridge the division in this country but not sure what that will be. We already have too many armed lunatics running loose, the hate rhetoric just fuels the fires. I’ll never look at my friends and family who have supported him and most still do, the same way again. Now I have to dig deep and try to not bully them the same way they have done me and anyone who disagrees with them.

    • Nicole (the Cdn one) says:

      I think the whole world is worried about not just the election, but the aftermath. In my own sphere of family and friends, we have discussed our concern about travelling to the US. Previously, we’ve been frequent travellers – at least four times a year – and not that any country is perfect and doesn’t have their own basket of deplorables, but the validity this election has given to those viewpoints is frightening and I don’t think it is going away even with an election defeat.

      People expressing racist, misogynistic and xenophobic viewpoints should be ashamed of them. They should feel constrained about expressing them in public because that discomfort prompts self-evaluation and is hope for growth and change. It’s like the parable of the two wolves. The one that grows stronger is the one you feed and Trump is feeding the worst parts of people and making those attitudes stronger and more acceptable to express publicly. That can only lead to acting on them (and according to reports I’ve read has lead to more displays of racism between citizens). I find this very frightening.

      I worry that this evil man is going to irrevocably change how the world sees your country and tourism will be negatively impacted and these negative economic effects are only going to fuel the deplorables. I don’t think, sadly, we are anywhere close to rock bottom yet. And how much more frightening is that?

      • Saks says:

        Yes. Like here in Mexico the US election has become a very delicate situation. From the fact that many of us have family and relatives living in the US, whom we feared for (a cousin of mine has already felt consecuences of his hate speech), to the fact that the USA is Mexico’s biggest trading partner (Mex is USA’s third), so his thoughtless actions would probably damage a lot our currently fragile economy, or sending mindlessly migrants away would seriously mess some of your states.

        Also I’m sure he would have actions in the line of arming the cartels (a la fast and furious operation) or super militarize the border putting the life of millions of people at risk, the wall is the least of our problems, tbh.

        So people here are really nervous about this election.

    • Lorelai says:

      @Clare, you’re exactly right.

      They’re angry and many are ARMED.

      @CDN Nicole, that is sad to hear but I can’t say I’m surprised.

      As an American, I am horrified and ashamed of this man.

  19. Malificent says:

    Night of the Walking Unwoke.

  20. HK9 says:

    Every time I think he can’t get any lower, he does.

  21. jwoolman says:

    A real concern is that one of Trump’s armed Deplorables might decide to assassinate Hillary either before or after the election. Trump was acting even more like a lunatic in a recent rally, for example claiming the criminal Clintons are meeting with international bankers to destroy American sovereignty, whatever that’s supposed to mean. He’s really emphasizing the idea that only he can save the country from certain ruin if Hillary is elected. He is claiming that all the stories about his inappropriate behavior are completely false and concocted by the Clintons to reduce votes for him and to deflect from his important message that will save us all.

    It has been pointed out that the third debate will be in an area with high density of armed crazies. I wonder if it would be wise to move it to a more easily protected location.

    And to think I used to only worry this time of year about people hurting my cats ….

    • Kitten says:

      I love how “Deplorables” has been embraced by HRC-supporters lol.
      The attack ad that uses that quote makes me giggle every time.
      Because she was not wrong.

      And I still worry about people hurting my cats.

      • Shark Bait says:

        I call them deplorables and laugh that they have embraced the term. They all need to hop back in that basket and we can ship them to Mars.

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        I hadn’t looked at #WomenforTrump until today so I saw that they were all calling themselves “Deplorable Jane” or “Deplorable Brian” without realizing that everyone else is laughing at them. AT them, not with them.

    • Lorelai says:

      JWoolman, I’ve had that same concern for a while. I feel very sorry for Chelsea.

      The only thing that makes me feel better is that I had the same fear for Barack Obama, and was happily proven wrong.

  22. LOLADOESTHEHULA says:

    I’ve never been so emotionally invested in an election that wasn’t happening in my country. Please don’t elect this putrid piece of garbage, America. There are literal steaming piles of sh*t that are more fit to be president than him.

    • Kitten says:

      I’m so invested too, to the point where it bothers me to see how apathetic and uninterested some people are.

      (mostly white males BTW)

      • mee says:

        yes that’s sad. I live in a very blue region and most men simply scoff at trump – no one i know supports him. but still, most guys don’t seem to have the rage that women are now experiencing. in a Lyft ride home the other day, there were 3 other guys – all shaking their heads at the whole mess of the election. but one man said, “they were two kindergartners” about the debate. there goes that false equivalence again. i clarified – “no, there was only one child at that debate and it wasn’t hillary.”

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        Good for you for speaking up. So tired of people saying “they both suck.”

      • Shark Bait says:

        Oh yeah the both sides suck people make me so mad. Like my racist aunt who is now trying to pretend she thinks Trump is pretty bad but Hillary is evil incarnate. She posted an article by Matt Walsh (if you are not familiar with him 1) you are lucky 2) he is a big bag of dildos) that said Hillary is trying to destroy the Catholic church and eradicate Christianity from the US. But now she is saying well I know Trump is bad but he’s still not gotten people killed. Oh SHUT UP!!
        A lot of the both sides suck people I know are Bernie supporters who just cannot handle that he is now endorsing Hillz. They think she stole the election from him or that he is selling out blah blah blah. He came out and said Gary Johnson does not reflect my ideals and they some of the bros are still die hard for Gary because they irrationally hate Hillary. It’s not just men, I know quite a few ladies like this.

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        lol @ big bag of dildos.

        I am SO effin tired of that sh*t.
        “Trump is bad but BENGHAZI!”
        “Trump is bad but EMAILS!”
        “Trump is bad but BILL CLINTON!”

        These people are just…it’s like they’re allergic to Google.

        Yep. I’ve unfriended several Sanders-supporters because of that sh*t.

      • Melly M says:

        I don’t think at all they’re allergic to Google. They just pick the sites that confirm their opinion and decide the rest consist of lies and propaganda.

      • Karina says:

        Oh my dear Kitten…I have seen posts on social media and the news with the same tag lines you mentioned.

        “…“Trump is bad but EMAILS!”
        “Trump is bad but BILL CLINTON!”.”

        I am emotionally drained by this election. I love my country too much to ever give up.

  23. AG-UK says:

    I lived in NYC in the mid 80’s most of the 90’s he was/is an idiot and everyone knew. He was/is a braggart and a fool. I am sure there are tons of stories about him, my friend worked at a store when he wanted to renovate one of his hideous penthouses flung open the door and told my friend look you won’t have seen anything like this before (hinting it was stunning/beautiful) my poor friend stood there mouth open eyes wide shaking his head no no I haven’t trying to hold back the laughter. White carpet/gold red furniture.. mirrors.. tacky just sums him up.

    • Lorelai says:

      @AG-UK I also grew up in NY so was used to seeing this dirtbag’s many scandals and divorces covering newspapers for years and years. For New Yorkers, I think the only part that is surprising is that he actually got this far in a presidential campaign. I’ve been sick of his sh!t since about 1984.

  24. Margo S. says:

    He’s the new bill cosby. Just keep talking clown. You are just digging yourself further into a hole.

  25. Bluesky says:

    Not to mention the irreparable damage this election has done to friendships. There are people that I’m not able to look at in the same way.

    • Tiffany says:

      Same here. I am not missing those people.

      • Alix says:

        My best, dearest friend in the entire world is an extremely bright, politically conservative (and socially liberal) person who’s always voted Republican. As I have, occasionally.

        Last night over dinner she exclaimed, “Of course I hate Trump. But I hate Hilary *intensely*!” I think my jaw dropped. I’m not nearly political enough to intelligently discuss Clinton’s political past. Is she the best thing for this country? I doubt it. Is she a crook? As with most pols, it’s highly likely. But Good Lord, she’s Mother Freakin’ Teresa compared to a mentally unhinged sexual assailant whose narcissism and volatile temperament make him quite literally a security threat to his own country. I am truly aghast at people who think otherwise.

        Even my nephew, a staunch Republican (and, for the record, a lot more open-minded than many Democrats I know, just sayin’), has publicly announced (he’s in local politics) that while he cannot support Hillary, he cannot and will not vote for Trump. This, GOP, is what’s called INTEGRITY, and putting country before party.

        Trump is a festering wound on American politics. The GOP, if they has any sense, would forfeit the effin’ election and spend the next four years figuring how how the FUCK this troglodyte became their front-runner. And begin rebuilding themselves as a sound political party again.

        Rant over.

    • Shark Bait says:

      My. Own. Mother.
      Who voted for Bill Clinton and Obama twice. She is die hard supporting Trump and spouting that Hillary is evil bs. She says age has jaded her and she is tired of things like BLM and people not respecting the police and protesters blocking traffic and most of all, political correctness. She says Trump wants to put God and Jesus back in our country and we will be able to say Merry Christmas and learn about Christianity in schools again.
      She told me she is proud of me that I’m progressive and socially aware and socially conscious but that I will eventually grow out of it and become conservative in the next 20 years. Uh ok mom.

      • AreYouKittenMe? says:

        Whaaaaaaaat?
        How does that even happen?

        As I’ve said before, my mom can’t vote because she’s not a US citizen but she always supports the Dem candidate. She also LOVES HRC and has a “Putin/Trump 2016: Making Tyranny Great Again” and a “Dump Trump” bumper sticker on her car (a first for her). I do think my parents are way behind in terms of race-related issues though. I won’t repeat some of the ignorant, misguided stuff my dad has said but…yeah.
        He’s also Dem voter always BTW.

        I just don’t understand how you flip like that.

        On the bright side, my ex’s dad was a “YUGE” Trump supporter and super-racist. So happy I’m no longer forced to listen to his political opinions because I don’t think I could take it right now.

      • Lorelai says:

        @Shark Bait, you have my condolences. Truly. I have a few fb friends who are Trump supporters but I don’t even know what I would do if one of my *parents* was voting for that dumpster fire.

        November cannot get here quickly enough.

      • EM says:

        Hmmm, I’d consider locking her in the house on election day or maybe a few flat tires (you can fix them the following day :-))

  26. Colette says:

    I try to ignore him as much as possible.I no longer watch CNN live because one day he came on and I couldn’t get to the remote…It was a traumatic experience.So now I DVR CNN and fast forward so I don’t have to HEAR him,it’s awful enough seeing his face.

    I am trying to remember does he ever insult a man’s appearance or is it only women? Like I said months ago if this jerk becomes POTUS he is going to be insulting world leaders especially female world leaders like Angela Merkel.

    • doofus says:

      no, he call men, “losers” and “weak”…the only comments I remember hearing about appearance were “little Marco” about Rubio, but that wasn’t attractiveness but stature.

      it perfectly captures his views on gender, women are supposed to be beautiful so if he calls you ugly it’s (to him) the ultimate insult; men are supposed to be “strong” and “winners” so “weak” and “loser” is the ultimate insult.

  27. Jayna says:

    Republican Joe Scarborough said some beautiful things about what is so great about Hillary, when he said he is optimistic things will get done.

    People don’t realize how well she works with the other side. She’s not a great campaigner, but as a person in office, she knows her stuff. I really believe she will leave a tremendous legacy as POTUS. It is why I have been so passionate about her, because I believe she will be a great president.

    The whole discussion (about four minutes) is interesting, but the Hillary talk is almost halfway through.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VddUcYIQwaQ

    • jwoolman says:

      Yes, if she gets elected, I think she will have no trouble getting a second term if she wants it.

    • B n A fn says:

      @jayna, morning joe is a die hard Trump’s fan. I was shocked this morning to hear him say something positive about Hillary. I was wondering what does Trump have on Joe? why he is going so hard on seeing Trump elected. So I racked my brains and remember that about 15 years ago one of Joe’s female intern was found dead in his office from head injuries. It appears there was a cover up and Joe resigned, hum, hum, I looked up Joe Scaborough dead intern, there it was. I bet Trump is using this scandal to keep Joe in line.

      • Jayna says:

        Actually, he was up his ass during the primaries. But that changed. Joe has come down hard on Trump for months now. Trump is not happy with Joe, and hasn’t been for a while, because Joe has bashed on him for so many months.

        Although, Joe did praise his second debate. Say what?

      • Shark Bait says:

        Trump trashed Joe and Mika on twitter and insinuated they are having an affair. I bet he does have something on him which is why Joe toes the line.

      • EM says:

        I didn’t think he was a diehard fan. I know Mika cannot stand him, rightfully so! I listen to them in the morning and think they are really good because they are critical of both.

  28. Lolo86lf says:

    He claims all those women accusing him are lying. It is highly unlikely that all of them are, if any that is. He is done! No White House for him. His supporters who do not believe the women who came forward and exposed him are deplorable people. Their hatred for Hillary has blinded them. Poor fools.

  29. FF says:

    God, the bro-ist logic he pulls out every time though. It’s like some creepy dog whistle to his like-minded boys to come cover his bs. And right on cue…

    That’s as much a topic for consideration as his predatory self-entitlement and how it has connected with his apologists and what that means in general.

    I’m surprised he’s not being compared to Cosby. Although the differences present an interesting portrait of a particular type of white male privilege.

  30. WhatThe says:

    I personally am feeling the fallout from this issue of men thinking they can invade a woman’s space, ogle her, make comments, or whatever. I am seeing male friends say things on Facebook about why women are only now speaking out about their experiences with Trump. I am a rather attractive woman who spent years as a professional banker, and I think of all the times I was made uncomfortable in situations with men. First off, you just put as much distance between you and him as you can. And then you question yourself sometimes and think, did he really mean that? Was I just imagining it? Thankfully I was never groped or touched. It’s the implication and how it makes you feel. Men don’t get it. It’s incredibly disappointing.

    • MSat says:

      You’re so right.

      EVERY woman I know has a story like this. Every. Woman. I. Know.

      At LEAST one story. All ages, all walks of life.

      For many of us, coming forward with that story puts us at great risk, personally, professionally or both.

      For many of us, a man forcing himself on you is simply part of being a woman. We know it’s going to happen.

      I suppose in a way, I am encouraged by the reaction to Trump’s comments and behaviors – because it shows that society is finally, finally fed up with this. Maybe, just maybe, the next time a powerful man forces himself on a woman, she will feel empowered to come forward at the time of the incident and know that people will believe her.

      Maybe.

  31. eggy weggs says:

    You guys, I think this will alllllll be taken care of on the back-end. Even if the Trump supporters *do* vote (and I highly doubt that they will because voting, unlike rallies, is not happy fun times scream-y shout-y social event), votes will disappear; machines will misfire and ballots will be lost. The electoral college will march off and hand this to Hillary, who has paid her dues and who is the best choice. These career politicians do not want this orange turd, who has not paid his dues, to win the presidency. And then…we’ll tuck ourselves away while the Trump people nurse their hurt feelings; we can reemerge when there is another Insane Clown Posse Gathering or monster truck rally to distract them.

    • can't even says:

      i see what you’re saying but I most certainly hope that nothing like that happens. While I totally think that Trump is unfit to be prez, I am just as fearful that some of his unhinged followers will think a revolution is in order.

  32. dq says:

    Keep talking, a**hole. Keep burying yourself even deeper into that massive grave. I LOVE IT.

  33. COSquared says:

    And some Hitlerites are now saying a woman’s right to vote should be removed. Your 19th amendment? What’s worse is that there are WOMEN who support this. American women, VOTE!! As a horrified outsider, I cannot overemphasise this.

    • can't even says:

      lol it’s funny they think the Constitution is malleable when it comes to getting their way. Why do they think the 2nd amendment is untouchable, then?

  34. Abbess Tansy says:

    OMG look at this, the address of one the accusers was tweeted.
    This is terrible.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/fox-anchor-tweets-trump-accusers-address-and-phone-number-229738

    • AreYouKittenMe? says:

      There is no low that it too low for these people. Unreal…

    • The New Classic says:

      Legit-If I was in this woman’s place I would be on the phone with my attorney right now preparing my lawsuit. This is absolutely despicable and a sick attempt at punishment and intimidation.

  35. JudyK says:

    When I read the words of Natasha’s account of her encounter with Trump, I knew she was telling the truth, because her words reflected exactly what I felt after an almost-identical encounter a very, very long time ago, except that it was a relative that had come to see my new apartment, the one I shared with my husband who was traveling. He greeted me with a hug and then kissed me squarely on the lips, and stuck his tongue down my throat before I knew what was happening. In total shock, I diverted his attention as his wife and my grandmother came to the door.

    When Natasha said her self-esteem went to zero in a split second, I knew what she meant. I was in shock for at least a week and never told anyone about the incident for a number of years, many years.

    • MSat says:

      It happened to me, too. I used to work with a woman who was super fun, and we quickly became work friends. She invited me to come over to her house one night to play board games and drink wine. There were a few other people there from work, some of her neighbors, and her husband. We had a lot of laughs and I ended up staying the night in her guest room because I didn’t want to drive home. In the middle of the night, her husband came into the room where I was sleeping, took off his clothes and tried to get into the bed with me. He told me that he knew I wanted him and had been flirting with him all night… NOPE. I’d barely even given him a glance because he didn’t participate in the games or conversation – he sulked in a corner all night. Talk about missed signals. This guy was persistent and wasn’t going to take NO for an answer until I threatened to start screaming so his wife and child would come running – then he got out of the bed, put his pants on and got out. I got the hell out of there and never went back! The worst part was, I never told my friend what her husband did. Instead, every time she invited me over, I made some kind of excuse. Things were never the same.

  36. MSat says:

    Natasha DID tell her editor at People about this encounter at the time of the incident. She was afraid of retaliation by Trump and didn’t want to go public with it. The editor at People then assigned a male reporter to cover Trump from that point on. I am good friends with that male reporter.

    Much like Bill Cosby, Trump’s lecherous behavior with women has been an open secret for a long, long time.

  37. Joannie says:

    He’s a vile man. However a number of the US presidents are guilty of the same thing and a great many men in high positions. That doesnt make it ok. But at this point in the election I think I’d be more concerned as to how he’s going to deal with other issues such as employment, healthcar and education to name a few. The US is no longer the super power it once was and cannot fix the worlds problems….never could or did. Its a mess in the US and they’d be better off concentrating on the ills that are going on at home and making it a better country for the people they are supposed to be working for versus taking each other down. Its embarrassing to watch the debates.

    • Lorelai says:

      Joannie, what other US Presidents have been accused of sexual assault? Bill Clinton is the only one I know of.

      • Joannie says:

        Kennedy was well known for his extra marital affairs as was Johnson. They might not have bragged but they were not much different when it came to women and cheating. That’s not my point anyway. Its what are they going to do for the people of the country to make things better? That would be more important to me at this point in the election. Ok so hes a pig but can he govern well? I dont for one second condone how hes behaved towards women but why is it being brought up now? It should have been brought up long ago before he even got to this level in the election. He’d be long gone!

      • Melly M says:

        But affairs with willingly participating women aren’t the same as sexual assault.

      • lightpurple says:

        And as far as affairs with willingly participating women, I believe that in the past century only two Presidents have not indulged and those two would be Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama.

    • Lady D says:

      We’re a worldly bunch here at CB. Does anyone recall any election campaign where your leader bragged about his sexual assaults, and to this day sees nothing wrong with that? To my knowledge no elected leader has used their sleaziest habits as part of their campaign in Canada, how about your countries, commentors?

      • Tina says:

        Nope. Even in France, which is supposed to be liberal in these matters, Dominique Strauss-Kahn killed his presidential ambitions stone dead when he sexually assaulted that maid in New York.

  38. bettyrose says:

    I’m just here to rant because there are so few safe spaces to do that. I cringe at the news. I’m afraid of the comments on Facebook. Why has Bro culture taken over our world? It’s one thing to be fighting for equal pay and access to health care, but now we’re fighting for basic dignity in the workplace? The right to not have our bodies oggled and ridiculed by male colleagues? Told we should be able to “take a joke”? Can you imagine if I started cracking jokes about small penises in the workplace? Suggesting men who aren’t well endowed are less deserving of human dignity? How fast would I be written up by HR? The f**king hypocrisy!!

    Not that I want to demean men. I have no desire to do that, but if I did, I certainly couldn’t count on Trump’s minions to defend my right to “make jokes.” I take comfort that the *vast* majority of men take no pleasure in demeaning women, but I’m sickened that this is a discussion in the news every.single.day.

    How do we still live in this kind of world? GAAAAAHHH!!!! /end rant (for now).

    • AreYouKittenMe? says:

      My friend who is a very vocal HRC supporter posted a link to Michelle Obama’s speech and (of course) two dudebros felt the need to weigh in with “She was acting. That felt so fake and put-on” and the other with this intellectual gem: “ewwwwwwww”.

      My friend replied in her usual feisty way and I just said “Don’t waste your time. Michelle Obama wasn’t speaking for dudes, she was speaking for US. Who cares what dudes think?”

      So that’s my approach from now on: when dudebros feel the need to offer their ignorant comments, I’m just going to be dismissive af.

    • Melly M says:

      I’m so disappointed there are some young men I know (20-25) who really don’t understand why the things Trump says regarding women are so awful. When I suggest they probably don’t see it because they are men, and they could try listening to women and taking seriously what they tell them, they don’t understand how that could help either.

      • lightpurple says:

        I took a workplace training course on diversity (in the workplace that covers age, gender, orientation, religion, disability in addition to race and ethnicity) once and the trainer began the class by asking what is the first thing you do when you open your car door at night in a parking lot? The women unanimously said: “look in the back seat.” None of the men understood why we were all looking in the back seat of the car. It is something that stuck with me.

  39. Juliette says:

    “It’s baloney to come out now,” she said. “They’re opportunists. Listen, no man attacks a woman unless she’s looking like she’s asking for it.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/politics/trump-voters-reaction.html?_r=0

    These people right here are who are supporting Trump and perpetuating rape culture. I am sickened, angered and saddened all at once that there are women out there that think this way.

    Speechless almost.

    • Veronica says:

      These women are victims in their own way because they’ve been taught by a society to discount their own fundamental worth as a human being. I don’t sympathize with them, but I do pity their delusion that siding with men will ever improve their odds. Internalized misogyny means that all of us lose.

    • Elise says:

      Right. That’s why 85-year-old women and THREE MONTH OLD BABIES get raped. Because “they look like they’re asking for it.”

  40. L says:

    There’s tape of him admitting, actually bragging, about doing exactly what these women describe. So, Donald, sorry to say you’re being hung by your own petard!

  41. JRenee says:

    He is a sad she’ll of a human being. Those kids are screwed up because he equates everything to his standard of beauty.
    I hope more women come forward and are supported as they tell their stories.

  42. Elise says:

    I live in an area where if you see a Clinton/Kaine sign you want to knock on their door and tell them they’re not alone. Seriously. My farrier showed up today to trim my horses, and about the first words out of his mouth were, “So, how about that election?” And I said, “I feel like I’m the only liberal Democrat in SW Virginia!”

    He laughed and said, “Nobody told you about the secret handshake?”

    It really is that bad. I’d guess there are 2-3x as many signs around here for Trump as there were for McCain (and does anybody else want to find one of those old “I’m voting for the chick” signs?). I have seen a total of TWO for Clinton. My farrier and I had a great talk, and then he asked, “What about your neighbor?” (which was his next stop) I had to tell him I figured the wife was probably for Trump, but I didn’t know about her husband. But when her husband came over, we decided it was time to change the subject. Clinton supporters really do feel physically threatened around here. I don’t know what will happen when he loses (and Trump has pretty much given up on Virginia now, because NOVA is going solid Clinton).

    • EM says:

      Same here in Warren County NJ. We actually had a case in the local paper where someone stole a Trump/Pence lawn sign and put it up on his lawn (caught on surveillance video). Morons the lot of them.

  43. lightpurple says:

    The map on Fivethirtyeight is extraordinarily lovely this evening. All that blue around the edges seeping towards the center. On, Arizona! On, Iowa! On, Nevada! On Ohio and NC! Let’s make sure it holds and comes true.

  44. EMAu says:

    He is horrible, as is his family who lap it all up with approval.

  45. Deb says:

    I just have to say in response to trumps critique of any and all females appearance; has he looked in the mirror in the last decade or two? Or is he just looking at old photos of himself? He was kind of good looking when he was younger, and I underscore the word kind of! Now he is a fat, puffy, ugly old man with hysterically hideous orange hair!

    • jwoolman says:

      Dr. Oz asked Trump what he saw in the mirror when Trump came along with his two pages of health parameters to prove he was fit. Trump said he sees a 35 year old.

  46. Jana says:

    In what world is this fool living? If not for money, he wouldn’t be able to attract ANY of these women.

  47. maryquitecontrary says:

    THIS GUY has also said in 1993 that having unprotected sex with women was “his personal Vietnam.” And therefore it was “acceptable” that THIS GUY hid behind deferments not to serve. Unlike countless of his countrymen, who had no choice BUT to serve, and paid a high price.

    These things I take personally. My dad was killed in Vietnam. Making the choice to have unprotected sex is NOT the same as being drafted against your choice and sent to a place where you are put in harm’s way to be killed.

    THIS GUY is a maniac. THIS GUY has no respect for women, or sacrifice, other Americans, or the world. THIS GUY has no respect for HUMANS in general. How anyone can vote for him and his rhetoric I find chilling and unfathomable.

    I don’t even know what to say. SICKENED.

  48. Sean says:

    Donald is wrong on so many levels that it is almost confusing. Whether or not a woman is conventionally attractive or not has zero to do with whether she is credible on the issue of sexual assault. Raising the woman’s attractiveness as a defense is only another piece of evidence of the sort of misogynistic mindset that makes allegations of sexual assault even more credible. But having said that his claims that she is unattractive aren’t even credible. Who are we supposed to believe, the Donald or our lying eyes. I really do think the media is doing the right thing by by in large not pointing out that he’s lying about her being unattractive since it really is irrelevant to her credibility and pointing out that she’s attractive could be construed as giving some legitimacy to the “not attractive enough to assault defense” and would be a huge disservice to victims of sexual assault who might not be as conventionally attractive.