Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s “intensely private” three-week vacation in Botswana and Zambia is now over. The vacation included: Harry introducing Meghan to his posh Botswanan friends, Harry taking Meghan on a glamping trip/safari, Harry “surprising” Meghan with a special trip to Victoria Falls. This was all for Meghan’s 36th birthday, and of course many of us believed that Harry gave Meghan a very special birthday gift: a diamond engagement ring. So far, no one is announcing anything, which is pretty much what I expected. When the engagement announcement comes next month or the month after, we’ll hear that Harry proposed during this trip. I bet you $20! Anyway, as if we needed further confirmation, E! News says that Meghan and Harry are back in Britain right now, and that they play to spend this coming weekend with Prince Charles… and possibly the Queen.
E! News can confirm Meghan and Harry returned to London this morning (Tuesday) as an onlooker spotted them taking the Heathrow express train from the airport into central London.
“The pair wore baseball caps and sat in the first class carriage, reading magazines and chatting quietly,” our source explained. “[Meghan] was smiley and giddy looking.”
Unfortunately, the onlooker noted she was not wearing a ring. Still, since Meghan isn’t currently filming Suits, we’re told she’s going to be staying with her royal beau in London for a little while longer. In fact, another source told us the couple is planning to visit Birkhall this weekend where they will stay with Prince Charles. Meanwhile, Queen Elizabeth II is currently at Balmoral, so it’s possible they could meet up with her as well, which would mark another big step in their relationship.
Not to mention, Thursday is the 20-year anniversary of Princess Diana’s death. If Meghan is planning to stay with Harry through the weekend, she’ll likely stick by his side throughout the difficult day.
Tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of Diana’s death, so yes, I think Meghan will be at Harry’s side tomorrow, especially if she’s planning to stay through the weekend and then some. Reportedly, Meghan has already met and spent some time with Charles – that happened months ago, if not last year. But Meg has never met the Queen. The protocol is slightly funky on this, because I think the Queen’s rule is that she doesn’t meet girlfriends and boyfriends until everything is official, but then the Queen has to give her approval before an engagement can happen. I believe Harry has proposed to Meghan, but Meg still has to meet the Queen and be “approved of” in person. It’s all happening, peeps.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Bet accepted, although I know it’s stupid to bet against your gossip radar.
Yeah, I’d start printing the money now if I were you.
I’m with you on this one CB
Ha, I’m going to be rolling in $20s
http://gph.is/2ecEYNL
Enjoy those 20’s Kaiser!
Comments above notwithstanding, I don’t think you will get many takers!!😂
The only thing that I might bet against is the timing of the announcement. The Brit royals typically do 4 to 6 month engagements, and a February/March wedding won’t allow for much in the way of outdoor photography. I say they hold off announcing until Nov/early Dec and have an April/May wedding.
But these two are modern, right? So maybe a longer engagement or a Vegas wedding is in the cards ; )
I think it’ll be a Dec./Christmas announcement. They won’t want to overshadow the Queen’s big anniversary in Nov.
I am SO in the mood for a royal wedding after this crappy sh!t show of a year so far.
QE has so many anniversaries, can she not give one of them away? Geez – it’s always about an unbirthday when it comes to Her Royal Highness!
I love the defense that she struggled being a granny – over her Queenly duties after Diana’s death – chortle and choke! How does this match up with poor Charles and his deprived childhood? Or that the first words their grandmother spoke were that someone must have greased the brakes of Diana’s car? I wonder if Charles will be able to put the cat back into the hat.
Another question – who are Charles’s friends that he didn’t have during his school years while being bullied – but suddenly showed up to further the illicit liaison between him and Camilla during the days of Diana? The very same home that Will and Kate share was the liaison place of their father and stepmother.
Firmal announcement before Invictus Wedding after Christmas Sandringham holidays celebrations. Cant be months fir the wedding. Grandpa AND Grannie not gettung younger
Don’t, please – don’t. I have GOT to win this one, I just have to!
Can’t believe it’s been 20 years. I remember waking up and being stunned to hear she died. I’m not a fan of William but I think Harry has his mother’s warmth with people and I love watching him with Michelle Obama. Meghan is gorgeous and I wish them the best.
Well, let’s face it: Michelle Obama makes everyone and everything better.
Everyone to Melania: *You aren’t our real Mom* (Runs away sobbing)
Melania to Everyone: *Wasn’t in prenup* (Shrugs, dead-eyed stare, turns on stiletto)
And scene.
LoL
haha
Perfect!
God, I miss Michelle…and her husband too, of course.
@Pedro45, Lol
You’re speaking for a lot of us.
The heels were bad enough , but what was that with Melania’s Top Gun bomber jacket? smh
She looked ridiculous in that outfit. And the sunglasses! At least they hid the dead eyes, I guess? Michelle would never have looked so inappropriate. Michelle and Harry were awfully cute together when then did Invictus. She has such a natural warmth and beauty and radiance and intelligence and OMG, please come back…
Anyway, I’m good with Harry and Meghan if they invite Michelle to the wedding. LOL.
ITA @Pedro45, can you imagine the hugs between these two at his wedding? 🙂
http://gph.is/1OPiWvO
Lol Very true. Miss Michelle. Come back
The best wedding photos will be of the Obamas and the Sparkles…the best thing is that I do not believe that Harry will feel silly at all about being called a member of the Sparkles…
They stole that train story from laineygossip!
Anyway, I bet she is done with Suits…the announcement will either slip out in the trades or they will wait until she announces her engagement. Probably much sooner than we think.
That’s what I thought, robbed from Lainey!
Lainey makes lots of shit up, hoping it sticks. It would be foolish to try to “steal” tips from her.
Plus I’m sure plenty of people saw them to tip off.
Could it be she has some faulty sources sometimes or doesn’t put the whole story in her articles. There were times when I knew it was wrong but I never considered that. I don’t read her often it has been years since I read her somewhat regularly.
I’m a big Suits fan, and to me, the way they’ve been writing Mike and Rachel makes me think a breakup will be coming.
Same here.
If Meghan have not met the queen I don’t think he proposed yet.
Harry is super closed to the queen. I suppose he would like her to meet the woman he wants to spend the rest of his life with before proposing, non?
I think Meghan has already met the Queen. I don’t think Meghan’s mother would have popped over to London if things were not heading towards marriage.
I’m with you, PrincessK.
Oh good thought, PrincessK.
HM already met. I feel the visit is to spend time with HM POW the RF especially leadimg into the engahement snnounvement in Sep. WEdding prep wont hurt.
The Queen met Kate back in 2008 I believe it was. At peter and autumns wedding, so it doesn’t need to be official for them to meet. She also met Chelsy at the same time.
I think an engagement depends on if suits is finished or not. If there is to be an 8th drain she may want to finish it, have proper closure on her career as it’s over once there’s a ring I her finger. No announcement until she’s done with filming, cost of protecting her in Canada would be a nightmare.
Exactly, Kate had been with William several years before meeting the Queen and it was right before the engagement. But for me the more telling thing, how serious they were, was when Harry introduced Meghan to William, Charles and Mark Dwyer. They came together quickly, but it seemed serious within a few months.
As LAK points out, it wasn’t right before the engagement. HM and KM were both at Peter and Autumn’s wedding in May 2008, which William ditched to go to Jecca’s brother’s wedding. Their engagement wasn’t until Nov 2010.
William loves Jecca, doesn’t he? I believe he loves his children as well. He rarely touches Kate, except to direct her steps. I wonder if the Sparkle’s will do more touching, as in Diana. I love couples holding hands…
I’m not sure we can know if William loves Jecca. I rather think he is quite fond of her and has a deep, longstanding respect for her but it never seemed romantic imo. Either way it feels icky to speculate especially as everyone is married and evaluating photographs is hardly a science.
I don’t know if he’s ever been in love with her, but he has put her and her family above his own multiple times. I think Jecca’s is the one voice he listens to above all others.
Nota
I agree except I believe that her voice will begin to dwindle as his experiences outstrip her own. I think his plate will be too full for her to be an actual influence although they’ll remain friends.
He skipped his daughter’s first Easter to attend her wedding. One of the few charities he works with regularly is her Tusk Trust. I expect to see future (secret) vacations with the kids to her neck of the woods, with or without KM. We’ll see what happens.
+1
I dont see waity formally meeting HM at Peter’s wedding. They may have been at the same church dont equal eaity introduce to TQ when willnot was not present.
I do think they are engaged. I go back and forth as to whether it will be announced after the Invictus Games (to keep the attention focused on the games and not the couple) or before the games (to get additional attention for the games and so that Meghan can be there with Harry without all the “is there a ring” gossip.)
Lovely beautiful gingrr and Princess Henry im waiting sparkle photos.
Princess sparkle is at KP for his mom celebrations. Balmoral is for engagement announcement and or celebration
The later would be great promotion and nod as a Founder to the worlds most appreciated service men and women in todays world.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Harry did a Four-weddings kind of proposal, like ‘will you NOT marry me but let’s just be together forever’? I defenitely would do that if everyone in the world was predicting my wedding 5 times a day
@FeVi – I suspect that with the level of financial, real estate, and other valuable property likely to be involved, like family jewelry, Harry’s lawyers would have to do some fancy footwork to persuade his un-intended to agree . . .
Meghan is such classic beauty. I wish both all the best. Gorgeous babies!!
I saw a high school graduation picture of her, pre nose job. She was absolutely gorgeous. Stunning. I know everyone gets rhinoplasty but it’s too bad she felt that she had to go for that standard Hollywood nose. She was beautiful before. Oh well, it’s her business.
maybe lots of people in Hollywood have nose jobs but I don’t know think it’s like standard for regular people lol
Carol, yes, not in my circle of friends and relatives! But if it makes someone feel better…
Southern California too. My husband grew up in the San Fernando Valley and said all the girls he knew got nose jobs at 16.
I actually went to high school with her and her nose looks pretty much the same to me.
I am a bit of a rhinoplasty expert. I am of 2 minds
1. She grew out of the baby fat and is now much thinner. She still has a bob on the tip which isn’t ideal. The ideal is what they call 2 dots.
2. She might have had very subtle refinement maybe without fracture.
I’ve had my nose done and it did wonders for my self confidence. No one notices unless I tell, them but as I aged , my tip was getting bigger.
To me, her nose looks exactly like her dad’s – with that distinctive tip at the end. She calls it the Markle nose.
It is rare to find someone who has done nothing. I think she had a minor nose job.
What nose job – I see none!
Meghan and Kate both had very good nose jobs.
It’s important to the Queen, but it doesn’t mean engagement is imminent. She met Chelsy who was also cosy with Charles. She met Kate in 2008. She met Sophie almost immediately she started dating Edward though they didn’t wed for another 6yrs.
That’s right. And I think Sophie accompanied the Royal Family on their Britannia cruise when she was still the GF.
William went to Jecca’s brother’s wedding instead of his cousin Peter’s wedding in 2008; KM was there as his, what, representative? She met HM unofficially at that event, without William there to introduce them. Didn’t Autumn also vacation at Balmoral before the engagement?
Yeah, Kate accompanied Harry and Chelsey at Autumn’s wedding. Odd, choosing an ex-gf over your own cousin. Kate also went alone to Lady Rose Windsor’s wedding that same year. Where was William? Talk about weird.
How thoughtful of William, to put her in that odd position of meeting the Queen but him not being there to make the introduction.
He really is a piece of work 🙄
Can’t wait to see how Meghan dresses and the Middletons heads are gonna explode. As Kaiser sad months ago, Meghan knows how to dress and do her hair and makeup. Kate will look even more drab.
I hope Meghan uses a proper makeup artist and day makeup -it might be what finally gets through to Kate after all these years.
Yes! hurrah! I think she is going to be very stylish.
Look at this “look” terrible!!!!!! Prada as well. Hair and makeup horrific. She looks so old. Is it the fags? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4835948/Princes-William-Harry-pay-tribute-mother-Diana.html
Kate’s issue – in part – is that she tries on a style, likes it, and that’s it for months/years. Like she used to be all about the straight knee-length dresses. Now she loves the midi-style dress.
I feel like Meghan will switch it up a lot more.
@ Natalie:
I keep hoping Meghan will be savvy enough to avoid competing directly in any way with Kate because it would be distinctly non- beneficial for her. There will be lots of people patiently waiting for her to trip up in some way – they will use try to pit her against Kate and use that to whip up sentiments against her.
If she’s seen to be competing with Kate, a LOT of people will rally behind Kate automatically against the American (ie Black, ethnic, foreign) Actress (ie opportunistic, frivolous, commoner).
If she’s smart, she’ll find a way to bond with Kate and form a genuine friendship (if possible) to minimize that line of attack and then keep her head down and “get on with it” (ie Keep things simple and continue workinghard).
That phrase is absolutely key for her success in the U.K. .
@Bellagio, spot on assessment!
Why, thank you Scottie! 😁😉😘
I’d hope that, if she became a working royal, she’d do her own makeup and hair.
I hope they become friendly. Kate needs some non Middletons in her life.
@ BellagioDupont….you have assessed the situation perfectly!
It’s unlikely Kate will be friends with her. She will lord over her status as wife of the heir. There is already a story of her blowing off Meghan and not giving her a ride to the mall. I know the sugars try to say it was for security reasons but it was Kate being a bitch. She has no female friends outside of her sister and for a reason. All men are potential flirting targets and anyone who is in the way is a threat.
@Louise – ah, but there are pitfalls there. A bit too much glam from the 5th in line’s SO and Kate could start looking like the serious one who, after all, has more serious work to do, and to whom, no matter how well MM dresses, MM will one day be curtseying. The next Princess of Wales will outrank the mere Duchess of Sussex by a good bit . . .
In these circles, glamor is a suspicious trait and can quickly backfire.
I hope that she is smart enough to be herself – she is way more glamorous than Kate. Perhaps we’ll watch to see if Kate is spiteful about that fact. No one goes far pretending to be less than they are…it’s a bad move regardless of the powers that be. At the end of the day, one must be able to respect oneself.
Duchess of Clarence…..pleeease!!
God, I hope this educated independent American woman doesn’t curtsy to anyone. What a out of touch and debasing tradition!!
I hope poor Harry and Meghan aren’t exhausted from their vacation – so nice that they (he, really) gets some more time off, poor dear.
#lazy #entitledtwit
Sarah’s daughters give a great deal of credence to a curtsey. QEII changed the rule books to accommodate these princesses of royal bloodiness.
@Sarah, you curtsey ti the position not the person.
Wolfpup:it was actually Anne and Alexandre who made a fuss about being Princes of the blood which caused the order to be changed.
B and E are erroneously blamed for something their aunts insisted upon that is re-emphasised everyone someone marries their male relatives.
Hardworking sincere and dedicated to TQ POW RF potential King Henry- service to charities GB, the people will go a long way. Just look at Qn Letty Maxima, CP Mary and orincess Sparkle wins waity carol pups miffleton easily.
Duites work hard for TQ POW at the above forget waity friendship and middletons. Their negative will rub iff o Meghan . No need Meghan join force with a lazy entitled flasher waste of space. Sparkle knows work or hustle as others state. Build on that as a separate line with her Prince.
Meghan, if she and Harry marry, will be irrelevant in about ten years, once George and Charlotte, maybe a third, will be teenagers. I don’t think William and Kate will want to spread the wealth too much, like Charles and his culling of the royals. I wonder what will happen, when the hard-working elderly royals are gone. Who will pick up the slack? Nobody, and thus the royals will be gone with the wind.They will fade away, like an old soldier. Middletons and incredible laziness, to the point of disbelief, with the three yawners, have destroyed everything 1,000 years could not.
+0000
Someone said Prince Harry looks like SugarBear from HoneyBooBoo.
Now I can’t unsee.
I still think she can do better. Shrugs
As far as looks go, she is so, so out of his league. Good thing he’s a prince.
Many of the wives are out of their royal husbands’ league in looks (Maxima and WA, Mathilde and Philippe, Charlene and Albert).
Don’t forget Mary of Denmark.
Yes but Harry won’t confiscate Meg’s passport :/
Which royal spouse had their passport confiscated? Charlene?
As far as looks, education, work ethic, and being an adult, she is WAY out of his league. Good thing he has a title and gobs of cash!!!
I don’t think an engagement will happen/be announced until Meghan occupancy’s Harry or other members of the BRF to a few official events or functions. Harry is playing with fire if he thinks the British public will accept Meghan after hiding her for entire duration of the relationship up until the engagement. The older generation (the dire-hard Royalist) need to see her with Harry/ the British Royal Family to accept her because they are not going to spent time watching ‘Suits’. I’m sure Kate attended a few events as William +1 pre-engagement where she was kept at the back but was able to mingle, meet, be photographed with members of the Royal family. Meghan can do this if she attends the Queens wedding Anniversary church service or she goes to Sandringham for Christmas.
The British Public have for the most part already accepted her. She’s been all over the press for months. Most people respect them for keeping their relationship private. The average person doesn’t know or care about “official engagements”.
+10000
Meghan is an asset to BRF . MUCH so than a decade waity only to be tied to carol – lazy entiltled with ma carol the middleton mafia- a waste of status to do great things for the people GB TQ representative.
Royals are not required to date in public or meet your expectations about how they date. Felipe and Letizia were a secret until their engagement day, as were Philippe and Mathilde.
In the BRF, they’re don’t attend an official work event (with the royal) unless a royal engagement/wedding has been announced. They might attend a family event in the background as part of the crowd (KM at Concert for Diana, graduation at Sandhurst), but not as part of an official royal work engagement until after a formal announcement.
I meant a family event not necessarly official event/engagement. The 2 examples I mentioned in my previous post are family events.
If the wedding service is listed in the CC, I wouldn’t see it as a private event. I doubt she’d attend something that high-profile without being officially engaged.
Kate barely met the royal family privately. Harry made that very clear in his pre-wedding interview.
Further, Middleton PR at the time kept putting out articles that Kate was turning down invites to Sandrigham or Balmoral or other private events because she didn’t want to meet the royals until she was official.
If we believe those things, then Kate met the royals less than a handful of times before the engagement. Post- wedding, she doesn’t appear embedded with them like Autumn or Mike. She almost seems like an acquaintance rather than part of the family.
She’s the smiley one in the crowd – always showing off those fake teeth and borrowed ring.
Wolfpup: i’ve come to the conclusion that her veneers are too big for her mouth thus they show even where she’s simply talking. I caught a news segment where she was talking and her veneers have taken on a bugs bunny quality. When she smiles, the effect is exaggerated hence the hyena effect.
What a great excuse for always being giggly in the wrong places. I need some too big for me veneers! I’d like to smile a lot more. QE’s are just right, IMO.
The ring is her engagement ring, not borrowed. Kate has far too many deficiencies for me to mock her veneers. We all do things we think will improve our appearance, misguided or not. She chose to be part of a world where insubstantial things matter the most so she is no more guilty than the aristos she vainly tries to remake herself for. I can hate the players but I would much rather hate the game. As a woman it makes me sad that this is what Kate feels is important although I do think she is a good mom.
EnoughAlready – do you think that I don’t know that the ring belonged to her mother-in-law previous to her? It is borrowed, in my estimation – (and secondhand), which is precisely why Kate needs to carry her hand in front of her, to convince us. The storyline, “just like us” will be laughter for scores of years. Diana was more English than those now wearing the crown.
@wulfpup! THIS! She does giggle in the wrong places!! Almost all the time. And too many giggles! BRF’s PR is totally wrong. Are we supposed to like her? I mean, do they want her to seem carefree, happy and likeable?
I cannot believe that after 16 years in the limelight, Kate is unable to keep her nerves under control and have proper body language appropriate for the occasion. There are two main cues: maniac grinning and giggling vs. being stiff and uncomfortable. After at least six years in an official role, she cannot do better. She’s a lot cause IMHO.
+1000
And @wolfpup
@Whatever….you have a point there. I really expected Harry to bring Meghan out during the summer season e.g Ascot, Wimbledon etc. I think Harry is trying to protect Meghan and not get her scared because once she is ‘launched’ the international media will go crazy bananas!! Meghan is so so more bankable than Kate will ever be. Meghan will be a photographers delight and she will unintentionally steal the show from anybody, therefore Harry is holding out for as long as he can. Can you imagine when the Queen starts giving Meghan tiaras t wear??? OMG!!!! Harry is really worried about the media attention and outshining the Cambridges. Also the press and public are going to hound Meghan terribly and Harry absolutely hates the paps.
Meghan is much more deserving than Keen Waity to be more popular. Keen Chutney was in the public’s eye for about 10 years before the royal marriage of the Middletons. The only highlights other than having two kids were: degree in idleness and laziness and showing out her twins in the upper and lower body.
Meghan has been working and earning her money for years. She’s shows a lot of confidence, of which Dolittle has zero.
So I think that Meghan won the match from day 1 of the wedding, should it take place. Sparkle and Harry will have a highly publicized marriage because there is interest in them. And I don’t see that Sparkle will be happy with the second place. Let the games begin!
But Megham is a professional a bright educatrd big girl. I ferl Prince Harry is quality traditinal Royal like his Grannir Fathet. The other RF. He is flowing the traditional Rpyals of such things. No middleton type marriage for potential King Henry.
This engagement is soon so Prince/ess Henry couple to z DUCHY portfolio and Charities
I just have a feeling that it is not gonna happen for them. I mean, with everything that has been seen, will Meghan be stupid enough to become a empty vessel for, this dude. I just do not think he is worth it.
You know I’ve wonder about this a lot. Maybe she really loves him and doesn’t care or maybe she’s just blinded by the family jewels, homes,outrageous clothing allowance and lifelong fame she will get if she marries him?. If she does marry him the first thing that will go is her American passport/citizenship as well as her right to vote in the UK or US, her right to express a political opinion publicly among other things.
She’s going to be giving up a hell of a lot for him and for such a vivacious women, who has campaigned for other peoples rights it seems odd that she is willing to give up her basic rights to become an empty vessel and join this dysfunctional family with 17th century morals.If she does end up joining the BRF, I hope for her sake she doesn’t live to regret her decison in 5-10 years time.
Letizia, Maxima, Sophie, Maria-Teresa, Mathilde, Mette-Marit, Daniel, Rania – they all chose to marry a royal and have done fine. They can use their personal interests in their work (Maxima and microfinance, Daniel and healthy living, Camilla and osteoporosis). Many of them work internationally with the UN or other organizations, often around things skirting politics (refugees, microfinance, HIV/AIDS, FGM).
She would potentially be allowed to keep her US citizenship, as Grace Kelly did. All members of the BRF can vote in UK elections, even HM who chooses to abstain iirc.
@NASH, I would never put Harry in the category of the royals you named. Not even close. He is not worth the change and I totally believe he would not allow Meghan to shine in any area , which for her is social rights.
@notasugarhere –
I think you are grouping everyone together where it may not be possible. The British Royal Family have an intense spotlight on them, they are seen as the mother of all Royal Families and are generally more stricter than any other Royal family. So what works for the Danish, Swedish or Monégasques Royal Families may not work or be acceptable for the British Royal Family.
Re voting; BRF can vote but don’t. I think it would be odd if Meghan was the only one that voted and everyone else didn’t. Personally, I think there is an unwritten, unofficial agreement that no senior member of the Royal Family votes.
Whatever: It’s not that they can’t vote or have agreed not to vote. Afterall, a voting booth is private and they can arrange to vote privately or by post.
The more pertinent point that recent royals have adopted is to be publicly neutral. At the very least, obscure their private preference so as not to appear to be favouring any particular outlook. And that might include abstaining from voting to do that, but it’s not a requirement.
The last royal that publicly demonstrated their preferences was Victoria and that brought on constitutional crisis after she refused to work with those she didn’t personally like or whose political outlook didn’t match her own.
For self preservation reasons, the Queen has been completely silent, never showing an opinion about anything unless pushed to do so. ‘Don’t rock the boat’ her mother told her.
Being a longlived regnant, people assume that her way of reigning is the way they are all supposed to be, and anyone who deviates is stepping on an imaginary line.
I don’t see Harry standing in the way of a partner who wants to accomplish things, or to help him accomplish things like Invictus or Sentebale. He doesn’t choose wallflowers.
No one faces more online scrutiny than Letizia of Spain – most of which is in Spanish so it tends to be unknown to many English-speaking royal watchers.
I think Letizia and her husband are the boss (see my old English?). On this, and many other things, we agree, nota.
NOTA, Letizia was in Camilla’s position and is now the queen, no!?! She may get scrutiny, but doesn’t have to bow and scrape to a much less accomplished sister-in-law. Same with Maxima and Mary. They are the Queens. And Sophie gets much less scrutiny than Meghan will, so that isn’t an accurate comparison either.
Meghan needs to study how the British public turned on Fergie and her children. Add in Meghan’s nationality, race and job, and there will be a real challenge for her to win over the public. You have commented before that Meghan is far superior to Fergie, but we honestly have zero idea who Meghan is. She could have as bad a case of narcissism as Trump – how would we know or not? Harry has kept her hidden.
As an American woman, I still believe that this will be a huge mistake for Meghan. A few years of curtsying to Kate will get real old.
Again with the “Harry is hiding her” when he made clear after Cressida that he was going to do whatever he could to protect anyone else he dated. To me, he’s protecting her as he said he would. He’s approached this relationship differently from any others we’ve seen from him.
I’m making the comparisons I think are valid, and to me these are valid comparisons. Sophie received all kinds of negative attention, including from the tabloid sting operation.
Letizia was attacked mercilessly for the fact that she was married before, and continues to be attacked by the old guard who think Felipe should have married a royal bride. The attacks have been so bad, someone was charged in court over the lies they spread about Letizia through social media a year or two ago.
Letizia was attacked behind the scenes by her FIL, SIL, and brother-in-law, who openly mocked her in emails for their disgraced non-profit. She had a set of in-laws who actively attacked her and undermined her with the Royal Court for almost a decade.
I’ve written than Meghan appears to be a full-formed adult, unlike Fergie who was a sheltered-in-her-own-way chalet girl with low self-confidence when Diana set her up with Andrew. As long as Harry doesn’t essentially desert Meghan as a new bride as Andrew did with Fergie, she’d do better. She already understands PR (as Sophie did), and if she understands it is a PR job (as Sophie does), I think she’d do fine.
Those who are confident across the spectrum going in do better in these roles, regardless of which royal house or where their royal spouse is in the succession.
I’m with nota. Meg will have her own cross to bear after the media honeymoon wears off and the mudslinging begins but going in she already has a better toolbox of skills than Fergie ever had. Even Andrew has more or less admitted that he put his naval career above his marriage and his wife bore the brunt of the fallout. If Harry is as caring and protective a spouse as he is a bf and if she doesn’t lose herself in the process Meg should be just fine as a royal wife. I see her and Harry establishing their own less fussy life with a close circle of friends, lots of royal work abroad and hand-picked charities that will let them do more hands-on patronage. If anything I think they may be criticized for spending too much time abroad and hiding their kids. Just my guess.
+10000
Spot on notasug
A marry i is greatly important and support if equal status to to the Royal House monarch and people – to do great things.
Entitled lazy Keen waity donothing carol middletons/ whiny Willnot Throne Idle – is the worst example of royal marriages and duties to the position.
@Tiffany – Oh, HE might not be, but what he is offering in terms of lifestyle, lifetime security, a public stage (she IS an actress after all, and headed fairly soon toward 40), the social status and privilege, not just for her but for any children she has with them . . .
Don’t ever underestimate that. It’s why men like this pull in the women they do.
Most of the ordinary commoners marrying in, as others have pointed out, have done quite well. Which kind of demonstrates what a sham all that royal “specialness” is. It’s not that hard a trick to master . . .
And anyway, it has to happen, I can NOT lose another wager.
Yes, but all you have to do is see how Beatrice and Eugenie, who seem like very decent young women, are treated by the British public to see the future of any kids Meghan and Harry may have.
The spare’s kids seem to get pretty brutally attacked.
Sarah, it’s mostly Bea that gets ragged on, for the unending vacations (was it 17 last year alone??), and not holding a job (Eugenie has been constantly working). They are also called on their awful fashion sense (it is rather unfortunate). Also, however unfair, it is because of who/what their parents are: Freeloading Fergie and Airmiles Andy (who is friends with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein). IMO, Andy is just repulsive and arrogance personified.
Beatrice and Eugenie, who “seem to be ragged upon”, made certain that QE changed who bows to who… (peals of laughter). Their mother was photographed with a Texan sucking her Big toe, while Diana, the princess of leprosy, landmines and Aids, is called mentally ill.
As LAK pointed out above, it was Anne and Alexandra who insisted on the change in the Order of Precedence, which HM updates after any marriages. Diana who had affairs with at least three married men and used to sneak lovers in to KP in the trunk of her car? Humans, not saints.
It’s so limiting to look at the minutiea of what he can offer her.
He could be personally as dynamic as all get out and still offer only 10% of the platinum opportunity his position offers.
It’s the access and ability to pull practically anything your heart desired. Everything is only phonecall away from you. And people, accomplished, successful people will rarely turn you down.
On top of which you are protected from prosecution or most of your own bad behaviour. Heck, past and future mistakes are whitewashed away. At worst, others are blamed for your bad behaviour.
There is practically no path that can’t be smoothed.
And you don’t have to work publicly. You can do it all behind the scenes whilst publicly appearing to do nothing. You don’t need to use your brains, or lack thereof, because the right people can be pulled in to make it right. And no matter what you decide to do, you will never be seen to fail. You are an institution from the minute you marry in. Even if you divorce as Fergie shows us all. Safety net is forever. And people still line up to ‘work’ with her.
The opportunity offered by the position is extremely attractive to anyone regardless of their talents or brains.
The jewels, money and public adulation is gravy on top of a very, VERY attrative proposition.
This is absolutely the heart of it all. Well said. This reality/tradeoff is why the wine and spirits column in the household accounts book is so high lol.
Yes, LAK, I repeat, yes, yes, and again, yes!!!! You should be the one to welcome each guest into the fold.
Absolutely. I wouldn’t turn it down. When all is said and done it is a rarefied thing to part of a part of the BRF.
*to be part of* No two parts.
@LAK – I will absolutely stipulate to that correction!
Oh, boy!!!! You are going to be called a concern troll, for sure!
I agree with you, BTW. Meghan would be much better with someone like Pippa’s husband, a private citizen. But actresses can be narcissistic, so maybe she will love the unrelenting attention?
If they get engaged, we shall see.
There is no way she doesn’t like attention-she’s an actress and she had that blog. I like her-I like them together. But she’s not going to shrink back. I think she’s going to see this as an opportunity for doing charity work which she’s always been involved in. It gives her a huge platform. That and she’s in love with the guy.
There may have been a nod from HM RF to the Prince sparkles – with message to US Pres Trump on the TX Harvey disaster.
Somehow I expect an announcement before Xmas, then having her as part of the Xmas mass parade at Balmoral on Xmas day.
If she marries in 2018, this Xmas may be her last to spend with her family and friends.
Yay for Merry! Honk, honk!
Am I the only one who isn’t gaga over Meg? I don’t think she is all that good looking nor a very good actress. I think the princes get slightly above average looking girls because they are not that much above average looking themselves. Their claim to everything is that they are royals… and how many people can offer a girl a fairy tale life? If Meg really is the one for Harry then they should marry no matter what. But gorgeous? no. It is probably for the best. If she were better looking the masses etc. would just hate her all the more. I watched some of The Queen with Helen Mirren last night on PBS and they show QE despising Diana and keeping it from the kids. Diana never stood a chance. Marry Harry at your own risk Meg.The royals are a jealous (and mean!) lot.
You DO realize that “The Queen” is a *fictional* account of that time, and not real, actual dialogue said?
lol!!!
duh no I didn’t gosh thanks for enlightening me. I still think MegMeg should be wary. forewarned is forearmed….do the royals pick so-so looking girls so they won’t elicit negativity from the raging green-eyeds or is that the best they can do? hmmmmmm
Let us remember what Wallace, Margaret, and Diana all had in common…the Queen Mother!!! Without an ounce of blue bloodiness, but so influential when it comes to who can marry and divorce in the royal family. I find it alarming that Megan is currently at Birkhall.
Why would E! News get the first scoop though? That part I don’t get.
Harry is cute enough and he’s charming and he’s in shape. Even without the prince title, he’d still probably snag her. She’s beautiful, but lots of beautiful women are with men who are less good-looking. He might be a little whiny, but, er, so are a lot of other men.
Since she’s been strong enough to survive the dysfunctionality of her own family, she probably has a certain wisdom to handle the royal family in a way Diana and Fergie couldn’t. Plus, she’s older. Sophie survived and Kate seems fine — maybe being older when you get into that family helps. Camilla got into that family when she was ancient, and that was probably for the best.
I believe that it is a new day dawning – with the Sparkle’s. Have you seen Megan speaking before the UN? If the Royals try to do some damping down – we will notice.
You think Kate seems fine? I think she is a shadow of who she used to be, at least in looks. My bet is she has really bad anxiety and a ED.
Harry is a rich, spoiled man-boy, just like his brother, but with a bit more charm. Look at the pictures of Meghan soothing him at that Jamaica wedding. He looked like a petulent 2 year old sulking!! Maybe I am not that tolerant, but a life with a brat while the media rips me to shreds? No, thanks.
Disagree a bit – crowds and such seem to make potential King Henry nervous – not petulant like whiny Willnot. I think sparkle from her profession- helping supporting him deal appreciate the anxieties (the media needed for the good of the people).
Both travelling at London airport train is awelcome openness some, to be with the people – rather than hidden in Norfolk AH forest secretly hidden traveling (hating the people paying their way) – flying private jets with middleton family.
Prince Couple Sparkles starting a new openness, and is seen – a bit similar to SRF Prince Couple.
Kate is not ugly. She only looks older because she wears black eyeliner and is so stinking thin. Meghan doesn’t go so dark and looks healthy. It gives her a glow that Kate doesn’t have. As for how Kate dresses, idk. Sometimes it’s ok but most of the time it comes off try-hard. She’s trying to be fashionable but covered up, minus not putting weights in her hem. Maybe if she put on some lean muscle weight she’d look better in clothes that don’t hide her chest and arms?
Have you ever seen her in person? She’s extremely pretty and tall. And she looks great in a bikini. Lean and muscular. Looks are subjective so to each their own.
Remember, Kate only cares about what Willy thinks….
in th uk on th eve of th 20th anniversary of dianas death harry gets a total pass from me – I just want him to be happy. a 12 year old boy who didnt cry when his mummy died. Im actually a bit annoyed at how beautiful meghan is because if she does marry harry it will all be about her looks and in th 21st century it shoudnt be. and I actually feel sorry for kate as thers just no contest – and thats what it will be. th media never learn.
Harry dressed as a Nazi for giggles, so he was cancelled. I have no idea who Megan is, but she is beautiful. Harry looks like he can slam ham whereas William looks like a guy who wears sock garters and makes an ewww face .
Lol. Dead.
DWL
Bets on: Dec announcement, May/June wedding. I don’t think he’ll want to copy Will exactly with an African proposal, November announcement and April wedding. And Megan will love, LOVE, being royal. Of course I know all about her as she’s an actress,blogger, and a Leo so better believe she’s a smart narcissist who lives for attention and swooning fans. I bet Harry thinks he’s running things but I believe this girl has manipulated the situation in a way that the Middleton family admires and respects. I don’t think Kate will be jealous at all. I think like minds become fast friends.
And noo I don’t think she’s a manipulative schemer who tricked sweet innocent Harry. But I do think… noo I know that getting married to anyone with that level of wealth and notoriety does not happen by chance.
More power to them all! They’ll have beautiful kids and she won’t be forced to water down as much as Catherine, so I’m expecting jewelry and shoe porn!
LAZY entitled wsity is pregnant again sponging off taxpayers.
Tok mch keen to get busy upcoming events schedule for her whony. Why dont eillnot remove himself sn line from POW. They are disgusting entitled. They will need to go back to AH Forest in secret hiding again.
And too much potential Prince Henry sparkle news so lets upset the cycles. I hope HM POW Prince Henry and sparkles continue his engagement and wedding plans!