Shock rocker Marilyn Manson has a new very long interview with Spin. They reveal that they chatted on the phone with the 39 year-old musician for two hours, and you can tell. It’s hard to tell where fantasy ends and reality begins for Manson. Even if he’s putting us on with most of this, and/or it’s the drugs talking, he still seems to be one messed up guy who is alternately fighting and embracing his demons. Manson talks about making concept art with used condoms, doing drugs and self-harming in the wake of his break up with Evan Rachel Wood, 21. He also claims that he thinks about “smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer” every day. He is promoting his new album High End of Low and nothing earns headlines like pure crazy:
On his condom concept art
Good…. I was going to email you a photograph I just took. It’s of a new piece of modern art I created. Let’s call this work my Jack-off Pollack, of sorts. I had two condoms — alien things to me, I haven’t seen them in 25 years — and I threw them on the mirror, and they stuck, and they formed this piece of modern art. And I can’t decide what to call it. I’m thinking about calling it “I Don’t Want You to be Cursed With My Retarded Child,” or “It’s Not Just Love, It’s a Lifestyle,” because they were Lifestyle condoms.
On wanting to kill Evan Rachel Wood
My lowest point was Christmas Day 2008, because I didn’t speak to my family. My walls were covered in scrawlings of the lyrics and cocaine bags nailed to the wall. And I did have an experience where I was struggling to deal with being alone and being forsaken and being betrayed by putting your trust in one person, and making the mistake of that being the wrong person. And that’s a mistake that everyone can relate to. I made the mistake of trying to, desperately, grasp on and save that and own it. And every time I called her that day — I called 158 times — I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands.
I look back and it was a really stupid thing to do. This was intentional, this was a scarification, and this was like a tattoo. I wanted to show her the pain she put me through. It was like, “I want you to physically see what you’ve done.” It sounds made up but it’s completely true and I don’t give a shit if people believe it or not. I’ve got the scars to prove it. I didn’t want people to ask me every time I did an interview, “Oh, is this record about your relationship with your ex-girlfriend?” But that damage is part of it, and the song “I Want to Kill You Like They Do in The Movies” is about my fantasies. I have fantasies every day about smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer.
On the eighth grader in Louisiana who said “Hail Marilyn Manson” before shooting a teacher
And of course, a couple weeks ago that eighth grader said, “Hail Marilyn Manson,” then shot a teacher. It’s surprising because on the first song on the record, “Arma-Goddamned-Motherf’in-Geddon,” I say, “F$^@ the TV and the radio, I’m gonna take credit for the death toll.” It’s all I get blamed for. I don’t get credit for anything else. So if I’m going to get blamed for it, I want credit for it. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I’m not saying I don’t agree with it. I’m not going to be some kind of PC, tree-hugger. I’m the last person that causes harm in the world, and if people are worried about what my music does, why isn’t anyone saying, “Hey, shouldn’t we worry about what he does?” Besides throwing used rubbers on the wall…
Initial reaction: Where did he get the gun… and why can’t I get one? It’s shocking to me that it’s easier to buy a gun at Wal-Mart than it is to buy my record. And it’s entertainment, it’s music, but that doesn’t mean it has no value. In no way would I say that what I do is just entertainment. In fact, I love to insult shit that I don’t like by saying, “Wow, it must be art, because it’s not entertaining.” But it’s just ironic that they can sell a CD in a store, and they won’t put the title “Pretty As a Swastika” on the cover, but at the same store they’ll have Valkyrie, for example, which has a Swastika on the cover. Now, I’m not even using the symbol, I’m using the word, so the record company sort of created a new curse word, by default, for me.
Alludes that he was broke at one point, loves drugs & sex
My decisions are based on art and I have the ability to do that, and not because I can retire on a f’ing island. I have nothing, I’ve lost everything, and I’ve got it back, and I’m happy to live in hotel, as long as I can feed my cat, get beautiful girls to do terrible things they shouldn’t do with me, and pay for absinthe and drugs — that’s rock’n'roll. Of course, there’s art to it. Of course I’m a painter, and of course I want to say things, but I’m not going to f’ing sell myself out anymore. When I make a record, the music that I record and the thing I’m going to play live, that’s my album. Whatever they want to put in a package, that’s their product. Why would you want to censor the word “f$^@” out of a song? Really, who doesn’t want “f%$@”? The more f#%^, the better. In life, it’s metaphor — the more f#%^s, the more fun. Hey, it’s only a couple letters off from fun.
In an interview published in April, Evan Rachel Wood said that she was back with Marilyn Manson. I guess she finds self-harming endearing somehow. Hopefully these two have since split, and it definitely sounds like it if Manson is still spouting off about how he wants to kill her.
How gross is it that Manson admits he loves groupies but never uses condoms? I really don’t get Manson, but I think that’s the point. He’s smart enough, but it’s all scrambled up and confused. He’s clearly on something that is making him so chatty, violent and defensive of his right to be offensive for his “art”. What do you say about a guy who admits he fantasizes daily about killing his ex girlfriend and sort-of embraces it when child killers use his name as some kind of rallying call? He needs help. I guess that’s all there is to say. Oh, and he’s starting to look like Boy George.
Marilyn Manson is shown on 5/22/09 signing copies of his album at Hot Topic in Hollywood. He’s also shown on 5/22/09 with his bassist Ziggy in London. Credit: WENN.com