Charles Spencer on King Charles: ‘The point is that this is a man with a temper’

We’re still talking about the forum event Charles Spencer did in NYC with Tina Brown. We discussed some of it yesterday– Spencer has been in New York, promoting his memoir of his sister, Swan Song. Tina Brown booked Spencer for this taped Q&A session, and I just saw that the entire video was published through Brown’s Fresh Hell YouTube channel. As I said yesterday, it was a choice for Spencer to sit down with Brown, who has spent a big chunk of the past decade carrying water for the Windsors. Still, Spencer isn’t afraid of her and he did well in her “hot seat.” He also spoke more in-depth about Buckingham Palace’s gaslighting attempts and how it’s well-known that Charles has a terrible temper.

In his conversation with Tina Brown, Charles Spencer called [the palace’s gaslighting statement] “a very aggressive response” and “a false reaction to the book as a whole.”

“I felt very frustrated, really, because anyone who reads the book will see that it’s a brother’s loving tribute to his sister,” he added. He added that the King had not denied his claims outright. Brown said his claims – including that the King was “giddily elated like a lottery winner” on the morning the Princess died – had caused “great debate” in the UK. The Earl responded: “I don’t know if it is a great debate. I’ll tell you why, [Charles] had the opportunity to not say anything or to deny it and he did neither.”

Asked about the Palace’s response, which raised questions about the legitimacy of his claims, he retorted: “He didn’t say ‘I didn’t say it’.

When Brown responded “No, he didn’t. He attributed it to your own fraternal grief,” he said: “Well, that’s called gaslighting.”

Speaking in a church in Manhattan, the Earl also claimed that the King had a “temper”. Referring to a conversation about whether Prince William and Prince Harry should walk behind their mother’s coffin to her funeral, he said: “I knew the last thing she would want was to have those boys traumatised walking behind her body. I don’t think there’s a person on the planet who thinks now that was a good idea. So I was very calm, and we know Prince Charles can be not calm.”

In reference to a video of the King becoming frustrated with a leaking pen while signing a visitors book at Hillsborough Castle in Northern Ireland in 2022, he added: “We all bow our heads in respect of what that pen had to endure when he had his tantrum. But the point is that this is a man with a temper, and I was very even that day. I was just saying she wouldn’t want it, and it’s wrong.”

At the end of the talk, Brown posed some questions from the audience to Spencer. One asked, “What would you say to the King if you ran into him?”

Spencer answered, “The Brits [are] very good at sort of catching each other’s eyes and operating in other parts of the room.”

Spencer was also asked an audience question about the life his late sister might have led if she had never become part of the British royal family. “What do you think Diana would have been if she hadn’t married the heir to the throne?” Brown asked.

“Happy,” Spencer answered.

[From People & The Telegraph]

I still love that Charles Spencer is calling out King Charles in this patrician way. Spencer is even-tempered, if a bit haughty, which also works in an exquisite way. Spencer is an aristocrat, a peer of the realm, and he’s saying that the current king is childish and temperamental and tantrum-prone. And that’s really it, isn’t it? The palace can’t deny what has been obvious for years – it’s completely in character for King Charles to hiss “we’ll forget her soon enough.”

Screencaps courtesy of Fresh Hell video and Spencer’s BBC interview.

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50 Responses to “Charles Spencer on King Charles: ‘The point is that this is a man with a temper’”

  1. Alicky says:

    “Happy.” Advantage Spencer.

  2. Amy Bee says:

    As Meredith Constant said the other day, Charles is the same person who said in his engagement interview “whatever love is” so not unbelievable that he told Charles Spencer that Diana would soon be forgotten. Plus it’s not like the press hasn’t been telling us for years that Charles has a temper.

  3. 5Emm1 says:

    “Happy”….. game, set and natch.

  4. Jais says:

    Bringing up the pen incident is diabolical. And so is continuing to call Charles a gaslighter.

    • Emm1 says:

      We ALL saw then pen incident and Charlie Windsor’s nasty little temper-tantrum so how is it “diabolical for Heaven’s sake? And Charlie W plus all his flunkies ARE past masters of gaslighting be it to Diana or Harry or Earl Spencer……in FACT to anyone who doesn’t follow their dictats.

      • Jais says:

        Diabolical in a hilarious way. We all saw it yes but him bringing it up again is perfect.

      • Becks1 says:

        Exactly. It’s diabolical because it’s hilarious and we all saw it. The palace cant’ push back on that one really lol.

      • Lorelei says:

        I’m still laughing at the comment from a few days ago, “Twice, a pen has gotten the best of him”

        LMFAO

    • Emm1 says:

      Sorry JAIS, missed the humour in your comment 🤦🏻‍♀️
      I’m soooo used to leaping to the defence of our Harry and Meghan and sneering at “that” family I jumped the gun! 😂

    • Hypocrisy says:

      Charles Spencer’s interviews are spectacular…

    • Lorelei says:

      I love it so much. And the way he words things is hysterical— “what that pen had to endure.” This is all so entertaining, and knowing it’s pissing KFC off is the icing on the cake. No doubt he wishes no one would ever mention his pen incidents ever again and Charles Spencer won’t shut up about it. I love him.

  5. Magdalena says:

    Why do I get the feeling that this last “audience question” came from Brown herself or Buckingham Palace?

    I loathe the way certain reporters phrase questions in interviews to people they consider to be “on the other side” wholly through the lens of the interviewee’s antagonists and aggressors. He is not speaking to them, so she takes the opportunity to ask their questions and get a response that they can respond to, which further enriches those papers and their contacts. In that respect, I think Earl Spencer knew exactly who/what he would be dealing with when he agreed to participate in this hack’s forum.

    She was trying to be Kuenssberg-lite, and like that other woman, failed miserably. From what I’ve seen, not many people are focussing on her narrative-loaded questions, but largely on the earl’s thoughtful, measured responses and his refusal to take the bait or respond to her barbs.

    • Tis True, Tis True says:

      Why would you think that that wasn’t a question an audience member would have had? Recall that the audience is large, there are many, many questions and Brown chooses which ones to ask.

  6. JoanCallamezzo says:

    “Happy.” Diana’s brother said what he said.

  7. Puff Updater says:

    If Diana hadn’t married that dick she’d be ALIVE.

  8. Brassy Rebel says:

    I’m so glad she posted this on her YouTube channel. I’ll hold my nose and give it a view. But it sounds like she was being aggressive and not outright hostile. She’s capable of journalism when she puts her mind to it.

  9. Shiela Kerr says:

    I also enjoyed hearing his response to Brown when she questioned Prince Harry’s return to England. Brown mentioned the adversarial relationship Harry has with the press. Spencer’s reply was (paraphrased) the relationship with the press has nothing to do with an Englishman wanting to come home. Which I agree with as long as it is a temporary return.

  10. Becks1 says:

    This makes me wonder what the aristocrats have to say about Charles Windsor in general. Spencer is referencing the well known pen incident but there must be so many more stories about his behavior when he’s NOT in public. My guess is the aristocrats are not as deferential to the royals as some might expect.

    And yes, charles has a temper and he’s spoiled and entitled and privileged. I can only imagine the things he has said behind closed doors. and same with William.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      And weren’t the aristos left off the guest list for the coronation? I imagine lots are still salty. More books, please!

      • Lorelei says:

        Didn’t he say he has 200 more pages that weren’t published? He needs to drop those stat, please and thank you.

        And why feel like he has to wait until KFC is gone to do so? Everyone who’s been paying even a little attention since the 1980’s knows that Charles is a petty, small, selfish man. It won’t exactly be breaking news to hear *more* stories about his fckery.

  11. Lily says:

    This is a long standing old school aristo/royal family squabble and i am here for the drama. Its like the War of the Roses but older and better.

  12. OriginalMich says:

    I love how when he basically tells her again and again that she doesn’t know what she is talking about, she acts like she is an equal authority on the subject. Him: You’ve been very hard on and wrong about my father. Her: Yes. Well, *my* opinion is based on reporting. Him: Dear. I was actually in the room.

    Also, there was zero reason for her to continually take pot shots at Harry.

    • Androsoul says:

      Ha! I hope she was squirming. I almost want to watch the interview for this bit. Is she the one who wrote an open letter to Harry, begging him to take back Cressida?

      • Mayp says:

        No, I think that was Ingrid Seward. If she is not one of Cressida’s godmothers, she is certainly close to her family.

  13. QuiteContrary says:

    Charles Spencer is the kind of aristocrat Tina Brown yearns to be. His subtle put-downs of KC are perfect.

    I mentioned the other day that at one point in his book, he calls KC a “bellowing buffoon,” and that’s a perfect description of that petulant, self-absorbed man-child.

  14. Little Red says:

    I’ll definitely make time to watch this interview. I watched the CBC The National one last night and it was quite good.

    • Lauren says:

      I liked the CBC interview as well, the interviewer was really trying to get Spencer to provide a straight answer on his views of K Charles. A relevant question in Canada where Charles is head of state

  15. CatGotMyTongue says:

    This was an interesting watch. He’s quite good, and he knows what he’s talking about.

    I have the audiobook on reserve at my library (through Libby) and can hardly wait for my turn!

  16. Rachel says:

    I’m positive he either said it verbatim or something equally as awful.

    The leaky pen line is incredible lmao

  17. Lady Digby says:

    https://youtu.be/X3gfUJrwgcY?si=jRiWEpJNhEPOkDMP
    Private Eye podcast on Swan Song and just why Morgan can’t realistically claim this error damaged his reputation. They listed at least four serious invasions into privacy of Diana, Naomi Campbell and CS first wife
    Also his infamous 2004 sacking as editor due to using faked photos to wrongly accuse British military of abusing Iraqi prisoners of war.

  18. fwiw says:

    Uncle Charles has changed in recent years. Writing his Private School memoir was cathartic. He quit drinking. Married a Norwegian academic. He could write & now defend Swan Song very effectively. I am surprised, based on my previous opinion of him, but grateful.

    • Lorelei says:

      Hard same! And I know that some people (the BRF and their sycophants) think he’s exploiting Diana by “profiting” off of her, but I visited Althorp years ago, and IMO it’s well and tastefully done. He’s able to generate income to run and preserve that enormous estate while at the same time making people like my friend and I who adored Diana and went there happy to be able to go and see some of her clothes and stuff, etc.

      God knows the “family” that ruined her life continues to profit from her, down to selling replicas of Big Blue in their gift shop. I’d rather my money go to Althorp. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  19. YankeeDoodles says:

    This guy is the real deal. I have a very tangential experience of his world, the kind of public school / aristo crowd, but it’s been years of tangential sort of glancing familiarity, largely based on one relationship twenty years ago while I was in grad school with a card-carrying member of the public school mafia, that lasted several years, and really did give me a lifetime shift in perspective. From what I can gather they are deeply invested in heritage and institutional continuity and conservation and they held the late Queen and her husband in genuine respect and affection. Charles is… someone they just do not take remotely seriously. And they have very little time for William. Many are huge fans of Harry and suspend their disbelief about Meghan given how little time she actually spent here and how wild the tabloid coverage was. Bonkers.

    • MaisiesMom says:

      A friend of mine’s daughter married an Etonian she met going to uni over there. She’s American, raised in Texas no less. I often wonder how she is received by his family and old friends. She happens to be beautiful and talented so I am sure that helps! But they can be funny.

  20. Diamond Rottweiler says:

    I love the way he looks down on this strain of the “Jerry-rigged German” royal family with their tatty little duchies and fleet of busted Bavarian sons desperate to marry money. Lol. Not usually on the side of the aristos, but in this case, definitely more of this, please.

  21. darknstormy says:

    What about the part where he says Kristen Stewart gave the best performance as Diana!

  22. jferber says:

    Charles Spencer is a godsend now and at just the right time. Harry and his family are in England and I’m sure Charles Spencer would do absolutely anything to help them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Spencer has directed excellent private security providers the Sussexes’ way. Fascinating. Wonderful.

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