Kendall Jenner’s Doberman apparently nipped a little girl at lunch in LA

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When I had a dog, I was always pretty concerned that he would bite or snap at someone. He was very grumpy and even though he was big and ferocious-looking, he was a big scaredy cat who hated to be surprised or man-handled by someone he didn’t know. Like, he didn’t like when strangers would come up to pet him at all. He wanted to be formally introduced to someone and have a few minutes to sniff them and suss them out. That being said, my dog was different around kids. I was always surprised by his patience with little ones, even if I could see his displeasure, he always kept his cool or simply moved away from a kid who was getting too close. I knew all of this about my dog and I was careful with him. I don’t think Kendall Jenner is the same way. Kendall has a big Doberman, which I didn’t know. She brings her Doberman out in public, to sit with her while she’s out for brunch. And her Doberman bit someone.

Kendall Jenner had cops called on her this weekend while out with her boyfriend, Ben Simmons, after her dog allegedly bit a little girl. Law enforcement sources tell us a call to LAPD came in Sunday morning regarding a dog bite at the Beverly Glen Deli in L.A. that was allegedly inflicted by Kendall’s Doberman Pinscher.

We’re told a mother and her young daughter were eating on the patio of the restaurant — where Kendall and Ben were also seated — when for some reason her harnessed dog nipped the girl. Sources say there were no obvious puncture wounds from the bite, so the deli’s staff simply administered ice from inside for her injury.

We’re told when the mother came back outside to confront Kendall and Ben, they’d already paid their bill and vanished — leaving behind no contact info or note. As a result, sources say 911 was called. The police department referred the case to Animal Control. Paramedics were not required for the girl’s injuries, BTW.

[From TMZ]

This is poor form all around. It says the dog was harnessed… but I would assume he wasn’t muzzled. Most people don’t muzzle their dogs anyway, so that’s no big deal. If he was harnessed, I suspect that the little girl went up to see the dog and – this is just my assumption – perhaps surprised the dog, or maybe even grabbed at the dog before he knew what was happening, and that’s why he nipped her. Truly this is Kendall’s responsibility as a dog owner, but at the same time children need to be taught not to go up to stranger’s dogs and try to play with them. Also: who brings their Doberman out to brunch, for their love of God? Dobermans are HUGE, it’s not like bringing your Bichon out. Also: if the Doberman had been truly upset, he would have broken the skin. He nipped the child because she scared him or grabbed him and he was annoyed.

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162 Responses to “Kendall Jenner’s Doberman apparently nipped a little girl at lunch in LA”

  1. Betsy says:

    No….. this is not a both sides thing. The dog bit and the owner left the scene, which suggests to me that the little girl wasn’t at fault.

    • Spikey says:

      A three-year-old is never at fault. Still, two things can be true. Kendall can be one of those shitty dog-owners who just never take responsibility *and* the Mom didn’t keep her kid away from the dog.

      As a dog owner with rather reserved, grumpy dogs myself, I *hate* it when people let their kids jump my dogs. I have Huskies, so I get the attraction for the kid, but still. I’m in the way, actively blocking the kid from grabbing my dog and still they sometimes get too close. This shit is dangerous! People without dogs don’t know the crazy we have to deal with sometimes. Grabbing the tail. Grabbing the ears. Trying to climb the dog. wtf?

      • Wilma says:

        Yes, teach your kids to respect the space of animals. It’s not hard to teach them things like that. My kid loves dogs to bits, but she knows to wait and stand back.

      • Swackd says:

        My grandchildren love dogs as each family has at least one. Anytime we see someone with a dog and the kiddos want to pet it, we always ask the owner. Only the owner knows his/her dog. So, I fault both the mom and Kendall. Both should have been watching their perspective child/dog.

      • La says:

        Yes! I have a young daughter and from the very beginning we have taught her to never touch a dog unless we say it’s ok and also “nice touch” when petting. She’s not even 2 but she is starting to get it. We don’t know what happened but you can’t expect little kids to get it right every time and as a dog owner I am always vigilant when we are out.

        We have a nervous dog (a 75lb mutt) and he nipped a friend’s kid once when she inadvertently scared him. She was fine and it didn’t break skin but I was mortified and after that we limit his interaction with any kids except our own, and if they do it’s HIGHLY supervised. We also got him additional specialized training to help with his fear issues.

        Kendall should have stayed and dealt with it. Also, it’s sad she didn’t even stay to check if the little girl was okay. When it happened to us I was incredibly concerned if the child was okay, even if she was just scared and not hurt badly.

      • jwoolman says:

        Even just with cats, I have to keep close watch when neighbor kids come into the yard and want to “pet the kitties” or heaven forbid “hold the kitties”. Especially Senior Cat the control freak who will damage even me if I try to pick her up…

        I keep telling them that the kitties can get scared because the kids are bigger than the kitties, and if the kitties feel trapped then they can hurt people with their claws and teeth. Kitties move pretty fast to get away from kids who are too impulsive, but kids can move awfully fast also. The occasional kid who actually understands cat protocol (move slowly, let the cat be in control at all times) is no problem.

        Can’t imagine how stupid a parent must be to let a kid go up to and touch a strange dog, though. My cats are worried about their own safety, but dogs typically are also worried about their pet human’s safety and protecting home and hearth. When they are on duty, that’s a whole different level of risk to an impetuous human (which most kids are by definition).

      • Lautiec says:

        I do wonder though if the kid wasn’t even bothering the dog if they were just all crammed in a patio area. A Doberman is a big dog to have in a crammed space and so the child and dog may have been close together just by circumstance. Kendall’s a prick for leaving.

      • Morning Coffee says:

        Yes, a 3 year old can be at fault – actually the 3 year old’s parents. To this day, my 16 year old asks “Is it ok if I pet your dog?” I taught him this when he was young. When I was little I was bitten and terrified of dogs for a long time. You wouldn’t let your kid go grab a random person, so why let them grab a random animal?

      • Josephine says:

        The dog is an attractive nuisance. I love dogs, had a dog, but as an owner you have to realize that the dog attracts kids (and even adults), and your job is to be vigilant. If nothing else, it protects the dog. If someone doesn’t want to have to be that vigilant, than the patio of the restaurant is not the right place to be. Being a god owner is a big responsibility, but too few people think it’s about taking walks and playing in the park.

      • Gin says:

        Amen! My Boxer is the same way. He is very protective of me with strangers and that’s the way I like for him to be. I have control of my dog at all times. Once introduced to people in the appropriate way he is gentle and playful.

    • Char says:

      Even if the little girl was at fault, Kendall should’ve stayed and dealed with it. That’s the right thing to do, period.

      • Marley31 says:

        I have a dog named Max and I love Max he’s a part of our family. That being said i only take Max places dogs can go I don’t take him into stores I don’t take him into hospital or restaurants WHY? Because even though Max is a inside dog he still goes outside for walks to the park to use the bathroom etc and inside dogs still have fleas so when people take there dogs to these places sooner or later they can get infested with fleas and a hospital should be a somewhat sterile place no dog hair fleas etc. Plus other can be allergic to dogs and people are bringing there dogs (in not talking about service dogs) into places they should not and that clearly prohibits them to. So my opinion is she should not have had her dog in a restaurant period even if it was outside. Other people are around and just because you love your dog doesn’t mean that other people do and aren’t allergic to them. Thus my point dogs should only go were dogs can go. You can’t keep your eye on your dog when your at lunch because your at lunch that’s not your main objective but any dog that bites someone it is the owners responsibility period. If we as people act like dogs are our children then just like children if they do something wrong we our responsible. People can’t have it both ways and in my opinion Kendal shouldn’t have brought her dog to lunch unless it was a place that allowed dogs. And I hope the little girl wasn’t too traumatized.

      • Dutch says:

        Here’s a radical idea. Leave the damn dog at home instead of taking to what I can only assume is a crowded restaurant.

    • Clare says:

      Sorry but this is the mums fault as well. Don’t allow your child to approach an animal that you don’t know. Kendal is an idiot for leaving without dealing with the situation – but to expect a strangers dog to welcome your child’s advances is crazy (and dangerous). Other people’s pets aren’t fornyour kid’s entertainment.

      The number of kids that run up squealing to my dog in the park is actually shocking. He is gentle and dumb a f, so I’m fairly certain he won’t bite anyone, but he is also 40kg and will knock you over if he’s excited. Ofcourse it’s my responsibility to keep him under control – but there is only so much you can do when kids run up making an excited dog even more excited. I do now tell kids off for approaching him without asking – sorry if that makes me w bitch, but I’m not having my dog (or me) blames if a kid falls over etc.

      Also, why is it ok to take a small dog out album not a big dog? That’s nuts. Big dogs are lovely gentle calm sausages when handled and trained properly.

      I also fing hate his insta post about te Dog ripping someone face off. F off Jenner.

      • Bridget says:

        Nope. It is always the responsibility of the owner.

      • Wilma says:

        I think this, for practical, not for legal reasons, is a both sides thing. Yes, muzzle your dog if you want to be sure, but also teach your kid restraint towards animals if you want to protect your kid. Don’t rely on the dog owner for your child’s safety.

      • Bridget says:

        If you have a dog that you know bites, the responsibility is on the owner in public. Period. Yes, we want to teach our children proper habits when it comes to handling pets, but the onus is still ultimately on the dog’s owner.

      • Algernon says:

        The onus is on the owner to control the dog.

        The onus is on the parent to control the child.

      • CK says:

        Don’t bring your f***ing biting dog to an establishment frequented by toddlers if you refuse to muzzle it. It really is that simple. You can teach a 3 year old all the restraint in the world one day and slip ups still can happen. This was a public location and i was Kendall’s responsibility.

      • Pamela says:

        I have so many opinions on this. I love dogs (but don’t have one), and I have a kid whose face I like where it is, thankyouverymuch.

        If you have kids, you teach them how to approach dogs. How = DON’T do it without the owners blessing, period. And be calm, quiet, gentle etc if you DO get permission. You teach your kids that, and then every time you are near a dog with your kid, you remind them and you supervise to make sure they are adhering to those rules. As an adult, I love to meet new dogs, and I also follow those rules.

        It can be great to run into someone with their dog in public. We often ask if we can pet them and it seems the owners are happy to oblige usually. I also read the situation, I am not asking in areas where someone is just trying to take themselves for a jog with their dog. But for ex. I was at an outdoor mall and someone had a tiny beagle puppy. I asked if we could pet her, and they let us and then I said “oh sorry to bother you, I just realized it has probably taken you 20 minutes to walk 10 feet because everyone must be stopping you.” To which they replied, “That is ok. That is why we came, I want to get her used to lots of people.”

        If we asked and the owner said no, I would be fine with that too. People have a right to walk through public areas with their dogs, whether the dog is super friendly or not.

        That said, if you have a dog that isn’t great around strangers, and is prone to snapping, don’t bring it to BRUNCH ffs. I respect your right to walk your pooch, and bring him to a public park etc. But if he is possibly dangerous, brunch seems highly unnecessary. You end up in close proximity to others, you are eating/possibly distracted, it is hard to fully supervise your dog, and there is just too much chance of an accident. What if a toddler happened to fall into your dog, accidentally, not even trying to approach the dog? And your poor dog rips their face off because it gets the crap scared out of it? Now your dog just disfigured a kid, and does it even MATTER whose fault at that point? Who wants that to happen?

        Even the friendliest dog ever COULD hurt a kid, accidentally if the kid surprised them, and a kid that has been 100% been taught to respect strange dogs, COULD one day forget or make a sudden unexpected move.

        But at the end of the day, if you are posting IG pics about how your dog will “rip someone’s face off”, unless you are kidding, that particular dog should not be at BRUNCH.

        The fact that she left the scene and didn’t check on the kid speaks volumes.

      • notthisagain says:

        Clare
        ” Don’t allow your child to approach an animal that you don’t know”

        True but how do you know that this is what happened in this case? to the point of blaming the Mom ???
        A poster below claims to have been to this restaurant and the patio is small (which is a reasonable expectation ) Dogs sometimes nip at people when they are stressed/uncomfortable or feel their space is being invaded i,e merely walking by them too close etc
        Bottom line pet owners have a responsibility to know and manage their dog especially if they feel entitled to take them to a restaurant around people and kids

    • Mgsota says:

      I have a two year old Yorkie who is sweet and loving BUT he has snipped at little kids who walk up to him and try to grab him. Older kids that know to stick their hand out and let him sniff, he’s fine with. He’s never bit anyone but has snipped which scared me. So I pick him up and keep him away from little kids. That’s my responsibility as a dog owner. But parents need to teach kids the proper way to approach a dog!

    • Sherry says:

      I see it as both sides. The mom should have asked if it was okay to pet the dog before allowing her child near it. A simple, “Is your dog friendly? Is it okay if my daughter pets him?” I’ve always taught my kids to ask first.

      However, Kendall needed to take responsibility for her dog. I have three big dogs; two rough collies and a lab. When I see little kids coming towards us, I make them sit and stay for the child to approach. I had a 109 pound German Shepherd who I adored (she passed away 2 years ago). I always made her do the same thing.

    • Henny says:

      Seriously. This is the responsibility of the dog owner. A pet is a privilege not a right.

    • Zikifly says:

      I agree that parents should teach their kids how to approach dogs. That said, it is REALLY hard to control a 3 year old. They are really fast and can have a ton of energy and it’s not like they remember everything they are told all the time. I have a 2.5 year old and I have told her a million times how to give animals space and ask before going near them, and there are still times that she will run up to a dog and I can’t catch up fast enough. I always apologize to the owners, and she never really tries to touch the dog, just runs up to it, but still.
      I guess what I’m saying is, I think people who are all ‘negligent parent let their kid harass dog’, this may not have been the case. The mom might have turned her back for a second and the kid got away. Of course it’s not the dog’s fault either, but the dog owner can’t just leave when their dog bites someone.

  2. OriginalLala says:

    I have seen so many kids manhandle dogs, cats, bunnies etc while their parents watch and say nothing it (or encourage them!) it drives me bonkers. Then they get mad if the animals reacts in any way – teach your kid to respect an animal’s space and body language!

    I have friends with kids and I have to hide my cats when they come over (and rarely invite them over anymore) because I have caught them pulling their ears, tails and trying to pick them up by their paws! and when Ive reprimanded the kids my friends have waved me off and said I was over-reacting.

    • Clare says:

      Kids are kids and parents are just dumb to let them approach animals without permission from the animals owner.

      We had friends staying with us this weekend and they have a 6 month old baby – the ENTIRE time my husband and I were worried that the dog would get excited and jump around, accidentally knocking the baby or scratching her or whatever – he is sweetie but also a 40+ kg animal at the end of the day. We did let the baby touch his head etc, because we want them to be pals, but she did on several occasions grab his fur, pull on his lip, accidentally knock him in the eye – all VERY exciting for a young dog and also very fing dangerous in an uncontrolled environment.

      Parents it’s YOUR responsibility to keep your kids safe and teach them not to approach other people’s pets! Don’t blame the fucking animal when you can’t train your human.

      • Guest says:

        100% THIS – do not blame the f*****g animal when the human isn’t trained….and yet, I blame the (apparently untrained) for leaving. That’s rude. I’m glad the parent escalated so there will be some forced interaction between an expert animal control officer, the dog, and Jenner.

      • Agirlandherdog says:

        Guest, please do not assume an animal control officer is an expert. Most animal control officers are as far from experts on dogs as you can get. I’ve met some who do care, but that doesn’t make them dog experts. Most have very little to no training on dog behavior and are overworked and underpaid. I agree with your sentiment. All of those women have shown a shocking lack of care for the animals they’ve picked out to use as accessories, and it would be nice to see them actually show some responsibility as pet owners and go through training with the dog, but the fact is, it won’t happen. Best case scenario, she gets rid of the dog and it has a *chance* at a good life. Worse case scenario, the dog gets put down because its owner is a selfish a**hole.

  3. Lucky says:

    One of my rescued dogs, Wiley, is the sweetest and calmest dog I have ever met. However, he has these giant ears and he HATES to have them touched. He will cry and yelp if you go near them. For some reason that’s what people always go for first, kids and adults alike will grab for his ears. Because of this and the fact that a three year old is eye level with him I am very careful. When we take him out and about I keep our distance and if someone approaches I step between them. I don’t want to take the chance that a small child will grab his ear and not know his reaction. Yes, it sucks that I have to over compensate for the lack of dog manners that the general public has, but I am his person and that is my responsibility!

    • babypeanut says:

      I was once walking my mom’s dog on the walking patch of a park. He was very cute – head of a poodle, body of a dachshund, and a group of children started following us. He was known to be a nipper so I was walking faster to keep ahead. Those kids followed me faster! I actually ran to my car and left.

  4. Lala11_7 says:

    I would use that ignorant a– Instagram post as evidence to sue the VALHALLA out of her! Why would you bring a DOBERMAN PINCER TO A RESTAURANT PERIOD?

    • Astrid says:

      Agreed, Unless the dog is a service dog, there is no reason to bring a dog to a restaurant. I can’t imagine a doberman pincer enjoying the experience.

      • Pamela says:

        I think it is starting to be more common in the US for some places to have patios where people can and do bring non-service dogs. I think this is fine, if you have a calm, friendly dog. I don’t think the size is necessarily the issue as their are huge pudding-like dogs, and small vicious ones. But yeah, if you know your dog is not friendly, those patios are NOT the place for you. What would be the point?

      • aenflex says:

        I bring my Shepherd to brunch and outdoor bars in the States. I bring her to pubs in the UK. It’s big in FL where I’m from. It’s totally commonplace to see dogs everywhere in the UK, grocery stores, coffee shops, pubs, regular stores, wherever.

    • Beth says:

      Unless it’s a service dog, why would any animal be brought to a restaurant? My family had a Doberman when I was a child,which never bit me or anyone, and we had a chihuahua while I was an adult which nipped me and plenty of other people. Animals get nervous in crowds and noise, so unless it’s trained, it is irresponsible to bring an animal into a place like that

      • Clare says:

        Hmm we take our dogs to pubs all the time – maybe it’s a British thing, but I would rarely go to a pub without the dog, unless it’s in the evening or to watch a football game or something. He is a part of our family and I don’t want to be out for Sunday lunch while he’s home alone.

        Maybe this is a cultural thing but is very normal here. , Wwhen ours were puppies they were socialised to go on trains, go to restaurants, sit beside my feet at the cafe etc. They don’t get nervous beause to them it is normal.

        Kendall is an fing idiot and I don’t know what this restaurant is like, but I’m a little shocked that people would begrudge others bringing their pets out! To each their own, I suppose.

        Obviously assuming the dog is properly trained and under the owners control at all times.

      • Beth says:

        It probably is a cultural thing, because I’ve never been to a pub or restaurant where there were people with their pets unless it was a service dog. If we want to enjoy a football game on TV with our pet, we have to watch it at home. My grandmother was very allergic to dogs and would have been sick in a restaurant or train with a bunch of dogs laying around no matter how well behaved they were

      • Gabriella says:

        I live in Texas and we bring our dog out with us all the time to places that have patios, which is what I assume the case is here.

      • AG-UK says:

        @Clare yes it is I live in London and you do see many dogs in pubs but not many in restaurants but a lot of pubs have gardens as well but they aren’t usually running free all over if they are big dogs they usually just sit under a table and look as if they cannot be bothered. Now I haven’t seen any in say the Ivy or Nobu but pubs definitely.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Yeah, that’s definitely cultural. Most places where I live ban dogs – some places are even leery to let service ones in because people falsify papers – unless they’re tiny and can be kept in a purse. And even then, it’s viewed as gauche depending on the venue.

      • Jan90i067 says:

        Clare, I don’t know if you’ll read this (as it’s 3pm PST), but that little Deli up there has a “patio” that is basically a few tables on covered pavement in front of the store; it is a few feet wide (just a *little* bigger than a sidewalk. So really, there isn’t enough room for a big dog to be laying around and people to sit (or even pass by) comfortably. It really is NOT the place for a big dog, esp. one that “will rip your face off”. Not only that, but we’ve been having a big heat wave here; the sidewalk would be very hot for the dog.

        (I go up there all the time, there is a *great* Italian restaurant a few doors down 😊)

    • Jamie says:

      I thought the same thing. That instagram post is going to be an exhibit in civil litigation. It’s clear evidence that she knows her dog is a threat to others.

    • Kelly says:

      When I was in high school I pet sit for a Doberman that I swear was bigger than me (I didn’t grow until I was 17-18). His mom was a dog trainer and he was the sweetest creature I have ever met in my life.

      But I will admit that I’m annoyed by the current trend of bringing non service animals everywhere.

      • AMA1977 says:

        Agree, agree, agree. I have a dog, I love my dog, we have always had a dog and my dogs are spoiled, pampered creatures who sleep on the bed and lie on the couch and get special treats cooked for them. HOWEVER. They are animals, and as such, they DO NOT belong everywhere their person goes. It’s completely inappropriate and narcissistic to take your dog with you to brunch on a little patio and to expect all of the other people who are paying for the luxury of a meal at a restaurant to just deal with it. Kendall has the means to hire a dog-sitter if her dog has separation anxiety, and I am sure that her dog has roomy, comfortable quarters in Kendall’s home where she would be much happier than crowded on a restaurant patio with strange sounds, smells, sights, and lots of strange people. And the post about “ripping your face off”…ugh. Just, gross. If she’s kidding, it’s not funny, and if she’s not, that dog is NOT a dog that needs to be mingling with the general public. Dangerous dogs can kill.

        I also have kids, and we have taught our kids from the age that they could move to pet gently, to ask and wait for permission from the dog’s owner and mom/dad to pet, to approach slowly, pet gently under the chin, and give the dog appropriate space and respect. My five year old LOVES animals and she ALWAYS wants to pet your dog, lol, and she does a great job with the rules, but I still remind her. Because she’s a kid and they forget sometimes!!

        I am tired of the trend of pets going everywhere. I get sick of seeing stressed-out dogs at the hardware store, at restaurants, at outdoor shopping plazas with no shade for their poor little feet. They are much happier and healthier left home with lots of clean water and a safe place to snooze. And if your life is such a whirlwind that you can’t give a dog the proper love/attention without dragging it all over town, maybe a dog is not the pet for you.

      • GenericUserName123 says:

        I am also tired of people trying to bring their dogs EVERYWHERE. I am an apartment manager and there have even been several people that pitched fits when I didn’t allow their dog to tour apartments with them. (Pet friendly doesn’t mean your dog can come into a freshly cleaned and carpeted apartment and potentially pee/ cause allergy issues for other people touring.)

        There is a “crazy cat lady” stereotype, but I see way more crazy dog people. You don’t see people trying to bring their cats out with them to bars, restaurants, and grocery stores!

      • jwoolman says:

        Generic – actually, Kim Kardashian tried to bring her poor cat (the short-lived Mercy) everywhere. I think Kim thought the kitty was just a variety of purse dog accessory. She didn’t even know how to hold the poor thing. Poor kitty. In posted pictures, Mercy always seemed to be silently begging “Help me!”.

        The Kardashian/Jenners don’t have a great track record with pets. One of the Jenner girls as a kid was supposed to walk the dogs as her “chore” on the show. She paid some guy to do it for her. It might have been Kendall, actually. On the show, dogs would suddenly appear for a storyline and never be seen again….

    • Agirlandherdog says:

      I live in a very dog friendly town in the US. Dogs of all sizes are welcome in almost all downtown businesses, including restaurants. I love it. Every morning, the business owners set bowls of water on the sidewalk in front of their doors and replenish them during the day.

      When my husband and I were in England and Scotland a few months ago, we saw people taking their dogs EVERYWHERE. And omg those dogs were so well trained.

      All that being said, I do think a responsible pet owner needs to know when they can take their dog out to public places like that, and when the dog would prefer to stay home. Just because you can take your dog places doesn’t mean you should. Some dogs love being around people. Some don’t. You need to know your pet and do what’s best for your pet. Not just dragging your dog everywhere to use as an accessory.

      • Jen says:

        Knowing WHEN is one of the most important things, IMO. I live in a very dog-friendly US town, similar to what you describe, Agirlandherdog, bowls outside, dogs allowed in stores, outside restaurant seating which allow dogs. But we’re also a popular tourist town. So while the dogs love going downtown (because they know we always go to the nice local petshop downtown and they get treats and new toys), we do not take them downtown on the weekends, or during the peak of tourist season. Because while ours are well-behaved, and the older dog especially really loves little kids, it’s a lot for a dog, its too easy for them to get stepped on or trip someone, and it’s too tempting for kids parents are also trying to wrangle.

      • Gippy says:

        What city do you live in, it’s not like that for us at all! Is if CO or MI? That’s where we’ve send the most welcome pups💓 We love taking our dogs with us
        everywhere.,

  5. HelloSunshine says:

    If you know your dog gets jumpy around people and especially children, it’s your responsibility as a dog owner to not put your dog in that position. You owe it to your dog to love them enough to not put them in situations like that.
    The fact that she quickly left after isn’t a good sign. I don’t think it matters that the dog didn’t puncture the skin, it’s still considered a strike against the dog. Correct me if I’m wrong though

    • Bridget says:

      Yeah, people are so quick to blame the kid, but as the owner, if you know that your dog is likely to bite when handled wrong, don’t take them out in situations where it’s highly likely that they’ll be exposed to things that upset them. Not only is it dangerous for the others around, but it’s unkind to the dog.

    • Algernon says:

      KJ sounds like a bad owner (leaving the scene? Really?), but no one has said anything about the dog being “likely to bite”. *Every* dog is likely to bite when it’s being teased or otherwise irritated, which is why it’s important for parents to watch their children and not let them approach strange dogs. I don’t see anyone blaming *the kid*, but I do see a lot of people calling out the parent/s who let their kid run up to a strange dog willy nilly. That could have been a great teachable moment about animal safety and respecting other people’s pets, but instead the kid ended up with a bruise. KJ doesn’t come off well here, neither do the parents. Frankly I feel bad for the kid and the dog for being allowed to end up the situation in the first place. It’s on KJ to protect her dog from tiny grabby hands, and it’s on the parents to protect their kid from strange animals. A modicum of attention and care from both parties and it could have ended with the kid petting a happy dog. (Said as someone who grew up with big dogs and had to learn to respect their space and then in turn teach others to do the same.)

      Also, the only way to get your dog used to potentially upsetting things like loud/busy areas is to take them out and expose them to those things. At some point you simply have to take them out and let them be around a lot of strangers or else they turn into introverted nervous wrecks who can’t handle strangers at all.

      • HelloSunshine says:

        I agree that the parents are also responsible but legally speaking, this ends up on the dog owner and KJ shown herself to be a less than stellar dog owner. Basically, I wouldn’t put it past her to not have her dog trained, not pick up cues that her dog isn’t digging the situation, etc. So yes, it’s on the parents but even the best of three year olds get rowdy. Plus, for all we know, the little girl was running or walking by the dog and wasn’t interacting with it at all.

      • Algernon says:

        I have zero problem believing KJ wasn’t paying attention/doesn’t pay attention. But we don’t know how trained or not trained the dog is, and we don’t know what the kid was or wasn’t doing, which I why I’m not jumping to the “it’s always the owner’s fault.” We don’t know, so let’s just say neither party was being an A+ guardian. And yes, legally, it is always the owner’s fault but that’s because we can’t put down badly behaved children.

        ETA: I would assume the dog probably is pretty well trained, because she could afford to have professionals come in and do it for her. (Training is so tedious, if I could pay someone to do it, I would.)

      • Pamela says:

        Yes. To All you said Algeron.

      • Bridget says:

        Don’t assume that just because someone has money that their dog must be trained.

        And she literally has an Instagram post where she says her dog will bite your face off.

        And again: it’s always the owner’s responsibility. That’s part of owning a dog: you are responsible for their behavior. And I say this as a dog owner. It doesn’t matter what the parent is or is not doing (though as a parent, i prefer to be diligent because it doesn’t matter who’s responsibility the dog is, I want my kid to have an un-scarred face) the ultimate responsibility when a dog bites someone goes to the owner.

  6. Cee says:

    You can’t control what other people’s children will do to your dog in public, so muzzle them. Even my French Poodle can hurt if he gets mad and bites. I have a pit mix rescue and she is adorable, sweet and kind. I still had her trained and she’s muzzled every time we go outside. I don’t want her to bite or scare someone, even if they hurt/scare her first.

    • Algernon says:

      Can I ask what kind of muzzle you use? I have a husky/shepherd mix puppy and he’s growing fast and going to be very big, and we’re having the to muzzle or not to muzzle conversation now. Our trainer isn’t a huge fan because of potential issues with the ability to pant when the dog is hot, but we want him to be safe and for people not to be afraid of him. We’re working hard on his obedience and socialization because the first line of defense is a calm, collected animal, but I know sometimes people feel better seeing a big dog muzzled.

      • Kate says:

        Not original poster but we have an 8 year old staffordShire bull terrier we muzzle when out. He’s not vicious in any way , big softie, but it was on advice of our vet due to health problems that lead him to be grumpy when other dogs jump all over him. Anyway after many trial and error with other muzzles we found the baskerville muzzle to be the best fit for comfort. He can still drink , pant etc but it just gives you the peace of mind .

      • Algernon says:

        I will look into that, thank you.

  7. Crumbs says:

    I’m sure Kendall was parked in a handicap spot again as well. She is the worst. Kids (and parents) can be annoying with their dog manners but it’s your responsibility as a dog owner to not be in these type of situations. Has she ever taken responsibility for anything in her life?

  8. Chaine says:

    I’m sure this will make it into their reality show. Footage of her crying about how terrible this incident has been for HER and how people are being so unfair to HER about it. Her sisters will all be her yes-women, of course.

    Also, it’s weird to me that there’s a completely unfounded assumption that the child caused this to happen and “it’s the mom’s fault for not reining in her kid.” How about, don’t bring your large, not-a-service-animal dog that you yourself characterize as “ripping faces off” into a crowded public area full of food and unpredictable strangers.

    • Mel M says:

      Exactly my thoughts. Maybe this is an LA thing but I would never go to a restaurant with my kids expecting there to be people’s pets in there and having to be on guard. A place like a deli is most likely a place that’s casual and family friendly as well. There have been so many discussions on here about how inappropriate it is to bring your children to certain eateries I think the same goes for pets my gosh. Restaurants are for humans to eat.

      • Chaine says:

        IKR? Everyone brings their dogs everywhere nowadays. My office building lets people bring pets to work or meetings, I was in the grocery store and a person had their corgi with them on a leash, not to mention of course airports which are like a zoo literally now with all the dogs traveling on the plane with people. I’m not anti dog or anti pet, but there is just total disregard for people with pet allergies as well as for the pets themselves who often do not at all seem happy to be in these crowded stressful spaces.

      • Algernon says:

        @ Chaine Once we made sure no one in our office has allergies, we started Bring Your Pet Fridays and morale is way up, people are way more productive, and somehow magically clients want to come into meetings on time (but only on Fridays). Having pets at work has been a huge boon, people focus better when they’re not worried about their fur baby crated at home or spending the day alone, etc. We’re considering going full-time pet, it’s been so successful.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      This. We don’t know that the child did anything to the dog but people are so quick to jump on the child and her mother for something that may not have even happened. I’m not a proponent of bringing non-service animals out to businesses, especially restaurants. Most especially tight spaces like this one seems to be, even on the patio. Someone’s dog decided to help itself to my dinner in a restaurant not too long ago and absolutely nothing happened to the owners, nor did I get a replacement meal that I could actually eat. I blasted that restaurant to the sky on every platform I could find.

      We have two dogs and I wouldn’t dream of dragging them around with us unless it was to places dogs are allowed to go. I am considerate of people with allergies or special needs like compromised immune systems, who could be directly affected by my dogs. That’s just the kind thing to do, to think of others and not obsessing about my dogs who are perfectly fine at home for the hour or two I might be gone. If it’s going to be longer than that then a neighbor kid (teenager) will come walk them for me and make sure our a/c is still running at a good temperature for them.

  9. Erinn says:

    Some dogs really don’t WANT to bite hard. They hope that noise and a nip will scare whoever is bothering them away.

    My niece (2 at the time) got bit by my MIL/FIL’s little maltese/yorkie mutt because the little demon has never been properly trained and was allowed to run around with a bone unsupervised while our niece was being babysat. That little monster definitely broke skin and left a scar on my nieces face. I am an absolute lover of animals. I don’t even feel comfortable killing bugs. But I was so enraged when I heard about this. I can’t even begin to imagine how I’d have reacted if this had been my child because in this case it was 100% on my in-laws for not watching the kid AND the dog. But my god did they ever play the victim when my husband gave them shit for it.

    I see so many videos of kids standing on dogs, pulling on dogs, hitting dogs – that the parents film… it scares me. It’s absolutely insane how many people expect their child to be safe when they’re man handling an animal – and then get mad at the animal when it finally has enough.

    • S says:

      “It’s absolutely insane how many people expect their child to be safe when they’re man handling an animal – and then get mad at the animal when it finally has enough.” <<<<<THIS

      Kids 3 and under are the most likely to be bit by a dog, They are face to face with larger dogs and tend to move and act in a manner that dogs, instinctively, find erratic, and therefore threatening. A lot of those so-called "cute" pictures you see of babies pulling on dog's ears or tails, are actually disasters waiting to happen, with the poor dogs giving every warning that this is not OK with them. And why should it be?

      Sadly, it's the poor dog that's likely to suffer the ultimate consequence.

  10. My3cents says:

    As a dog owner all I can say is this is on her. Don’t place your dog in situations which might frighten/annoy them. Muzzle and don’t try to run off.
    Poor judgment all around. Not surprised.

    • Dazeem, Adele says:

      Came here to say the same thing and I’m glad to hear the chorus of agreement. As a self-proclaimed (and by others as well) crazy animal lover, most expect me to defend the animal, but I try to consider those who don’t love animals and try not to invade their experiences/space w my animals. Same rules for my children, I love em, I know you don’t, lol.

  11. Adee says:

    Kendal really didn’t need the lip fillers.
    Pressure in that family is REAL, she never really gave in to their ideals until recently.
    Oh and Khloe recently blaming her pregnancy for her lips getting bigger is such a “girl bye” moment *eyeroll*

  12. Millenial says:

    These kinds of things always turn into a crappy dog-owner vs. crappy parent debate. The truth is, both exist. I’ve had so many dog owners let their dogs run up to my three year old and try to jump all over him, scaring the crap out of him and making him cry. Those are the dog owners that yell, “Don’t worry, he’s friendly!” as I’m picking my child up to protect him. But then I’ve seen lots of stupid parents let their kids run up to dogs and pretty much do the same thing in reverse. I wish everyone could agree to mind their own pets/kids and teach them not to approach gently.

    • Wilma says:

      Yes, whenever we move in public spaces we have a responsibility towards eachother and need to make sure animals and kids in our care are properly supervised.

    • Pamela says:

      OMG. I love dogs but if a strange dog ever came running up to my toddler I would probably poop my pants in fear (just because it wouldn’t be immediately obvious to me if they wanted to kiss her or eat her)

      The flip side is my friend, who is a professional dog trainer, who was hiking in the woods with her large very socialized/friendly dog. A family approached and the small kids ran right up to the leashed dog and one even through her arms around his neck to hug him. This was fine because THIS dog was so docile. But my friend tried to explain to the kids and parents why they should never do that, and the parents gave HER attitude. She is a very kind person, she wasn’t rude about it, she really just wanted to be helpful.

      But seriously, this is the problem. In general, there are lots of dumb people out there- none of us can count on them to train their dogs OR their kids properly. And the only way this really works is if BOTH are treated the right way.

  13. Flying fish says:

    When will the Kardashian/Jenner’s just go away???

  14. Amelie says:

    My bichon really did not like bigger dogs getting close to him. He wasn’t like this as a puppy, it’s something that developed as he got older. Not sure why, maybe he got hurt playing with a big dog in a park or as he got older and more arthritic, he did not like getting crowded and rough housed by bigger, younger dogs. I always made sure to give bigger dogs a wide berth and warned other dog walkers that he didn’t like bigger dogs. On one or two occasions he snapped at a bigger dog even after I warned the other owner he wasn’t fond of bigger dogs. He was absolutely fine with people though he was mostly disinterested with them when we went out for walks (especially small children, he wouldn’t bite but just show major disinterest and just walk away).

  15. Censored says:

    Uuuhm Nope
    When you bring your dog into a public (and relative confined place ) it is your responsibility to know the temperament of your dog and take steps to protect the public accordingly.
    Furthermore regardless of the type of injury it is scary to most kids to be bitten/snapped or attacked by a dog , the fact that these two let without ascertaining if the child was OK speaks volumes to their character.

    I am a dog lover who hates irresponsible and selfish dog owners , not everyone needs your dog and dog hair around while they are eating I would never take a dog like a doberman or my German Shepard to a restaurant, the way some people humanize their dogs yet dehumanize people is disconcerting.

  16. Lindy says:

    I’ve been bitten by a large dog (our neighbors were terrible dog owners and eventually had to surrender their dog back to the rescue because they neglected it so badly). It was a terrifying experience, I was holding my baby at the time, and it has resulted in a near phobia of dogs that I can’t shake.

    I have taught my kid to never ever touch a strange dog and always to ask the owner for permission to approach or pet a dog when we are out and about.

    That said, a restaurant is a place for people, not animals, and it’s unreasonable IMO to bring your kids to eat brunch somewhere while having to worry about getting bitten by an animal. 3yo kids are full of energy and they can follow directions but even in the best of cases, they forget or they aren’t totally aware of how close they’re getting. I just get really tired of being at restaurants and stores where I should have a reasonable expectation of not having to contend with someone’s dog, only to find that people bring their dogs in.

    I think the fault is largely Kendall’s.

    • Parigo says:

      “That said, a restaurant is a place for people, not animals,”. This 1000 + times over. It is a place for PEOPLE TO EAT.

      A young child is impulsive, you can teach them but sometimes they will forget. It is always the dog owner’s responsibility and I hope Kendull gets sued by the child’s parents.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Yeah, I got bitten once by a dog while walking late at night in my neighborhood for no reason than the fact that the sidewalk was narrow, and I had to walk past them. The woman was apologetic, but man, was she lucky that I was too young and frightened to do anything but go home and cry to my mom. Took me years to get over it. Dogs are predators, and people need to respect that reality of their ability to do damage.

      • Caffenatedwench says:

        I was bitten by my uncle’s black lab when I was 7 or 8, and still have scars in my eyelid. My dog (a 75lb pit/GS mix), is an absolute lovebug, but I don’t expect strangers to know that, and I’m very careful of where I take him. He’s never shown aggressive behavior (that I’ve seen) but gets overly excited to meet people sometimes. So when we’re walking, I cross the street if someone’s approaching. If someone wants to pet him, I make him sit and keep a hand resting on his harness in case he gets bouncy. I absolutely won’t let someone’s kids approach him until I get approval from the parent, and even then it’s slowly with a hand out for sniffing. No sniffy, no petty.

  17. Jordan says:

    Today on keeping up with the kardashians. They sealed a lucrative deal with a blogger that won’t call out actual offenses. Reducing Tyson as gay since he doesn’t like her bought parts. Tune in tonight on E! News to find out if we see hypocrisy on display. Or continue waiting for that article. 🙄

  18. Blondems says:

    I hate the fact that she’s had her dog’s ears cropped. I loathe these modifications. (I have six rescues, including a pit bull who has mutilated ears, and it enrages me.)

  19. Algernon says:

    You don’t want to be around my dog at brunch, but I don’t want to be around your kid at brunch. We have to manage somehow, and the first step is everyone be responsible for the being with undeveloped critical thinking in their care. I’ll watch my dog, and you watch your kid, and as long as we’re both being responsible, there won’t be a problem. My puppy has shown no propensity for biting, but I don’t know, if your kid pulls his ear hard enough he might do something to make your kid not be near him anymore. The sheer number of biting incidents that involve an animal that has never ever bitten or even nipped anyone before is staggering. That is why I will always watch out for my dog, just in case, but you should be watching your kid, too. It takes two to tango.

    ETA: Before anyone says, “Just don’t take your dog out,” I would like to point to the number of times an unsupervised toddler has ruined a dining experience, which is more than I count on two hands (most recently being a toddler at brunch who reached over, grabbed food on my plate, and threw it on the floor). If I have to leave my dog at home, you should leave your kid at home. That way, everyone can eat in peace.

    • H says:

      Thank you. I have a trained service dog, a small German Shepherd mix. I get dirty looks all the time when I’m out with her even with her harness and tags on. People need to teach their children never to approach ANY dog without asking the owner first. But Kendall doesn’t get a pass either. She should have stayed for the police/animal control.

    • Veronica S. says:

      I get what you’re trying to say here, but one is a human child who may throw a tantrum and the other is a domesticated predator capable of doing significant physical harm if provoked. Those aren’t really equivalent in terms of their potential danger to the surrounding public, so as far as I’m concerned, the greater onus of responsibility is on the latter to better controlled.

      • Jennifer says:

        I agree, Veronica. Human children have a right to be out and about in human civilization, where they are learning to fit into society. I like dogs a lot, too, but comparing them to children is intellectually dishonest.

      • Algernon says:

        @ Veronica The greater onus of responsibility is on parents to remove their howling children before they ruin a meal for everyone else. Dog owners should be responsible and I am a huge advocate for training/obedience classes (ideally you should never be done training your dog), and if I am bringing my puppy into a new environment, which is pretty much all of his trips right now, I am careful and choose my moments for when I think the crowds will be manageable (like going to a park during business hours, not on Saturday afternoon). But I don’t see why I should have to be eagle-eyed and alert every single second I am out with my pupper while toddlers get to do whatever the hell they want. People can control their kids, or remove them if they simply cannot be reasoned with. If I am expected to be so careful, I expect others to be careful, too.

        @Jennifer I don’t like kids so it is intellectually honest for me to say I prefer to be with my dog and not kids. No dog I have ever owned has ever ruined someone’s meal. Plenty of kids have ruined meals of mine, which is on the *parents* and not the kids. I am not comparing the children to the dog, I am comparing the owner of the dog to the parent of the child. In both cases, owner and parent are responsible for a lesser-reasoning being who may, in the interest of others safety and/or comfort, need to be removed from a public place. Also, dogs need to be out in human civilization so they can learn how to fit into a society that expects them to behave a certain way in public, just like a child. If you never take your dog out, it turns into an anti-social mess. Just like a kid!

      • Veronica S. says:

        Okay, but again, a child ruining your dinner by being a brat is not even remotely equivalent to a dog physically attacking somebody. One is an inconvenience. The other is an act of harm. They aren’t on the same level. The child is in human society. The dog is an animal who has been introduced to human society but still has canine behavioral responses. I like them, but I’m under no delusion that they aren’t exactly what nature intended them to be.

        A child screams in a restaurant, you have the option of leaving the scene to sort out your potential migraine if the parent is inconsiderate. (And frankly, if the melt down occurs when they’re, say, checking out and physically can’t leave until they pay, it may be less the parent not doing their job but being stuck in a position where they have a delay in addressing. That’s just the cost of living in a society sometimes.) The dog is at the mercy of an owner’s response and doesn’t have the agency to do otherwise.

        I’m sorry, but as far as I’m concerned, the human has priority over the animal. Unless significant provocation and negligence is involved (which is clearly not the case here), no jury is going to blame the human being. Which means the dog pays the price.

      • Algernon says:

        We don’t know what the case is here, we don’t know what led up to the nipping, we only know KJ left after. Once again, everyone mind their lesser-reasoning being and there shouldn’t be a problem. I accept that if my dog lashes out regardless of provocation I might have to put my dog down and end up in court (look up how often that happens even *after* the bitten person admits to somehow teasing/harassing the animal), which is why I have always been diligent with my animals in public. I do not see the same diligence from parents, which is my whole point. Mind your kids, I’ll mind my dog, and we won’t have a problem.

    • notthisagain says:

      Algeron
      As a dog lover myself and someone why hates parents who dont control,their kids in public , you are making false equivalencies here
      You do know that there are people who are allergic to dog hair and pet dander and especially dont want it around their food ? . Not to mention others who unfortunately had traumatic experiences with dog bites/attacks that may be leery of them

      Having an allergic reaction or being attacked by a dog in no way compares to the annoyance of unbridled kids especially as the latter is not life threatening or deleterious to ones health.

      • Algernon says:

        I don’t know, the migraines I get after listening to kids scream their way through a meal is pretty deleterious.

        I take your point, though, about allergies. My favorite brunch spot does “dog days” every other week which are 21+ brunches in which pets are welcome (one guy regularly brings his huge grumpy cat which is amazing). They days are clearly posted so people with allergies know when to avoid. The alternating brunches are kid-friendly, so those of us who don’t want to deal with that also know when to avoid. It’s the best arrangement I’ve found.

        However, as I believe I mentioned elsewhere, the restaurants I know of that allow pets limit them to outdoor areas. That way, anyone will allergies or other avoidance issues can simply sit inside. I won’t assume it never happens, but I have never seen someone go into anaphylactic shock passing a patio with a couple dogs on it to get inside a restaurant.

      • Algernon says:

        ETA: Even with more and more pet-friendly public places, the restaurants that allow pets (again, outside only, I don’t know of restaurant besides a kitschy cat cafe, that allows anything other than service animals inside), there are still *way* more places that do not allow pets. The dog-allergic have far more options than anyone looking to stop for a bite while out with their pupper. If the sight of a dog lounging under an outside table is enough to scare someone from one particular restaurant, I guarantee they could look around and find at least two other places in the vicinity to eat. This is not a situation you encounter everywhere you go.

    • Bridget says:

      I gotta be honest, none of this makes a ton of logical sense. And frankly, usually you do. Why is this such a hot button issue for you?

      If you don’t like kids, eat in bars. Problem solved.

      • Algernon says:

        Because dog owners *always* get blamed and for every “the dog bit me out of nowhere” there are ten “well I was pulling its tail/poking it/teasing it in some way I should not have been”. I understand that, legally, if something happens with my dog in public I am going to take responsibility for that, up to and including a person could kick my dog and if it lashes out, *I* will be the one in court, and the one putting my dog down (who I view as a member of the family). As dog owners we are at the mercy of how vindictive any given person in public is at any given time. (And frankly, what I have seen of dog-on-human crime, the shrillest protestations of total, I swear I did nothing to that dog innocence come from people who *know* they did some $ht to that dog.)

        I’m not comparing a dog to a kid, I am just calling for equal responsibility from owners and parents. I grew up knowing I had to watch my dog like a hawk in public, to be attuned to its mood, to prevent possible negative interactions with strangers. I have always socialized my dogs diligently to ensure they are calm and comfortable with strangers. I work very hard to ensure my animals are obedient and well behaved. And yet a kid can walk up and pull his tail or yank his ear or punch him in the face (which has happened with previous dogs), and all I get is a laugh and a LOL kids, what can you do? You can move to the other side of the street, remove to another section of the park, or otherwise just let me get away from you and your kid so my dog *and your kid* are safe. But if a kid does yank an ear and my dog growls? Well I am just the worst owner and my vicious hellbeast should be put down for making poor Josephine cry, never mind my dog was just sitting here and *your kid* assaulted it.

        We have no idea what led up to KJ’s dog nipping, and she is an idiot for leaving the scene, but as I said before, I’m just assuming neither KJ nor parent were being A+ guardians in the moment because dogs very very very very very rarely act out unprovoked. There is almost always (always, really, but .01% benefit of the doubt) a reason the dog lashes out. So again, neither KJ nor parent being on their game.

        Also, have you not seen kids in bars? I have, a lot. Increasingly all the time, even after 10 PM, as if the parents want to prove the kid won’t interfere with their pre-kid lifestyle. So literally no place is safe if you’re trying to get through one meal without a kid ruining it, unless the restaurant, or bar, takes a stand and makes kid-free days or similar policies. People on here like, just don’t bring out your dogs as if kids aren’t just a big of a nuisance in public.

      • Meh says:

        LOL bars are allowing kids in them these days. We literally cannot escape them. Good try, though.

  20. Bunny says:

    Sigh. She didn’t do her dog any favours by not keeping it safe from children.

    I have two dogs. One is super-friendly; one is super-grumpy. Neither bites. Both have had extensive professional training.

    I don’t allow either to be petted in public. The friendly one, because he gets excited and jumps up occasionally (he’s still young), and the grumpy one because she’s grumpy and growls (she’s a rescued stray, and is incredible protective of me).

    I honestly don’t think either would bite, but both are my beloved pups, and I would be heartbroken if they had to enter quarantine (or worse) due to a bite.

    I keep them under my control if we’re in public because I love them and want to protect them.

  21. Lucky Charm says:

    As both a parent and dog owner, I always taught my own kids and any that were visiting to NEVER approach a dog that was eating, no matter how calm and friendly that dog may be. And I also taught them to ALWAYS ask before approaching or petting a dog that didn’t know them, even the kids I met on my walks with the dog. As a dog owner, I’m responsible for what my dog does. As a parent, I’m responsible for what my child does. Both parties dropped their respective balls here, but then Kendall made it worse by sneaking out and leaving without talking to the mom.

  22. Jenn says:

    I’m sorry but I don’t want to be around any dog that can’t get “annoyed” without biting someone. My heeler doesn’t like to be pet, but she has never so much as growled at someone. You can stick your fingers into her mouth, you can grab her tail and ears, etc. I love dogs, but it’s ridiculous to me that people prioritize dogs over other people. I don’t care what the kid did; if the dog will bite over a minor annoyance (if that’s even true) that is NOT a dog that should be out in public without a muzzle. I hope the family sues the sh-t out of her.

    • OriginalLala says:

      seriously? most dogs will react with people (especially strangers!) are sticking fingers in their mouths and grabbing their tails, would you not react if someone was doing that to you?????? wtf?

      honestly, some of these comments make me glad I only have indoor cats, i wouldn’t want my pets to be around people who think its ok for them (and their kids) to pester animals and who freak out if an animal dare react…

    • Pamela says:

      OMG. I love dogs but if a strange dog ever came running up to my toddler I would probably poop my pants in fear (just because it wouldn’t be immediately obvious to me if they wanted to kiss her or eat her)

      The flip side is my friend, who is a professional dog trainer, who was hiking in the woods with her large very socialized/friendly dog. A family approached and the small kids ran right up to the leashed dog and one even through her arms around his neck to hug him. This was fine because THIS dog was so docile. But my friend tried to explain to the kids and parents why they should never do that, and the parents gave HER attitude. She is a very kind person, she wasn’t rude about it, she really just wanted to be helpful.

      But seriously, this is the problem. In general, there are lots of dumb people out there- none of us can count on them to train their dogs OR their kids properly. And the only way this really works is if BOTH are treated the right way.

  23. Mellie says:

    No, it’s not the child’s fault and I say this as the owner of 3 dogs (I also have three kids), you have to be a responsible pet owner. There are places that I could not take my dogs (and I have a golden retriever, the sweetest kindest doggies) because of the tight quarters, such as an outside, crowded café during brunch because of noise levels and people rushing around. It only takes an instant or one wrong move for something like this to happen and now she has a situation on her hands, plus she appears completely assholish for leaving the scene.

  24. Evie says:

    As I lifelong German Shepherd owner, the first rule in a situation like this is that the dog will always be blamed/at fault where a young child is involved. Anyone who owns a large breed dog that falls into what is deemed the “aggressive” category (e.g. Chows, Akitas, Dobermans, German Shepherds, Rotweilers etc.) needs to get their dogs trained and socialized. You also have to be especially careful around small children. Even though many of these dogs are gentle and protective — they are also large and can unwittingly knock a child down.
    People also need to train their children to be respectful of dogs and not pull their ears, slap them, sit on them or otherwise tease them. But in this situation, if Kendall’s dog nipped the three year old, it’s on her. She should NOT have left the restaurant; she should have checked to see if the child was OK and exchanged numbers. Very unwise and irresponsible of her not to do so. I’m glad the toddler was OK. Next time Kendall might not be so lucky.

  25. TheOriginalMia says:

    Her dog bit a child and she leaves without checking on the child or leaving her contact information. Forget who was at fault. That was irresponsible of her. Bring your dog out in public. Face the consequences of his actions.

  26. Lynne says:

    We don’t know why the dog bit the Child. It could have wanted her food for all we know. But we do know that the child is not at fault. Period.
    Kendall is at fault for leaving with out addressing the situation with the mother, her umm boyfriend could have held the dog while she went inside.

  27. Veronica S. says:

    A lot of people seem might quick to assume the child did something here, but I have known plenty of dogs to lash out unexpectedly because they were spooked or uncomfortable and lacked the training. My mom found out the hard way with our dog that he was getting more territorial with age when he gently nipped our neighbor for getting too close to my mom (in a non-aggressive context). Didn’t break skin but definitely spooked us. From that point on, we kept him mainly in the house outside of walks, and he’s kept away from strangers and muzzled in others.

    • Sid says:

      I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall reading that Jenner got a dog for security reasons. The fact that she got a doberman would lend credence to that, and if the dog isn’t properly trained I can see how it would nip at a toddler. The fact that she and her flop boyfriend left without even making sure the little girl was okay says a whole lot. And none of it’s good.

      • Veronica S. says:

        I mean, I don’t mind dogs. I’ve lived with them. But I do think Americans romanticize them way too much. They are domesticated predators. They are not people with the ability to cognitively analyze and assert themselves when something goes wrong. I dislike this recent trade of equating the right a child’s space in human society to that of “fur babies.” I was attacked by dog once for merely walking past he and his owner on a side walk, so while educating people about respecting boundaries is important, acknowledging that it is an ANIMAL is, too. You never know when something, somewhere will trigger a response. Kendall was irresponsible to forget that and just downright callous to run out on the problem. It’s the aggressive dog that pays the price of the owner’s laxity.

      • notthisagain says:

        Veronica
        Thank you for being a voice of reason on here as some one who loves my dogs . I am floored by the entitled and seemingly self absorbed comments by some pet owners on here

      • Elizabeth says:

        Veronica, dogs are actually scavengers, not predators and humans are also ANIMALS. Also, if you go to many countries in Europe dogs are in way more places than they are here so it isn’t just Americans that enjoy them.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Dogs are descended from wolves, which are opportunistic predators and scavengers in equal measure. How genetic engineering has reduced much of that instinct secondary isn’t particularly relevant to my point. They have sharp teeth and are primarily carnivorous, and they are known for being territorial. They can be killers under the right circumstances and training. I’m not entirely sure why this is a controversial statement to dog owners. This kind of danger is exactly why we train dogs to protect them from their own instincts.

        Humans are animals, but they are significantly more cognitively advanced and capable of kinds of intellectual reasoning that dogs are not. Let’s not be obtuse and equate them. You’re doing no favor to your dog treating them as capable of the same reasoning as a human. Respecting an animal for what nature made it is not the same as disliking it.

  28. Lightpurple says:

    We have no idea what the interaction between the dog and child was. We have no idea what the mother or Kendall did before the bite. We don’t know if the child surprised and frightened the dog or if the dog bit without provocation or if Kendall agreed that the kid could touch the dog. All we do know is that Kendall irresponsibly fled the scene without dealing with the aftermath and we do get to judge her harshly for that

  29. Jem says:

    I’ve been to that restaurant , and it doesn’t have a big patio space – it’s pretty close quarters. That dog is too big to be there and stay calm when people approach.

  30. SequinedHeart says:

    How about leave your dog at home? Then no one will be at fault. I swear, I have never seen so many g.d dogs in public since living in the states. People carrying them in the grocery store, then handling the salad bar. SO GROSS.

    • RspbryChelly says:

      I take my small dog to the supermarket w me & to run other errands after her vets appts. Where I live & her vets is quite the distance from each other & it’s only logical for me to bring her along. I live in Las Vegas however & will absolutely never leave her in the car but I keep her in her carry bag & bring her along, it’s her small adventure

  31. amandaK says:

    I think the fault is Kendall’s, she was the one who chose to bring a potentially dangerous dog into a space that is primarily for people. If it is not a dog proved to be 100% safe around people, then the onus is on her. And she has a lot of gall to run away after realizing her dog has caused harm to a child.

  32. Snowflake says:

    I’m gonna get a lot of hate for my post but whatever. I’m a cat owner, grew up w dogs. I hate it when people take their pets into public places. I work at a car dealership and people being them in all the time to the service area. I’ve got enough to worry about without adding a strange dog to the mix. Leave it at home, it’s ok.

  33. RspbryChelly says:

    I had a pit bull who never, ever bit anyone, ever. She had the tolerance, patience & excitability of a pup but even w all that I would still muzzle her when out in public w a lot of people/kids. Never w a thought that she would actually ever bite anyone but if startled or uncomfortable I knew I couldn’t chance it. I hated doing it though, it made her appear aggressive & mean to anyone walking by perpetuating that ridiculous myth. I also muzzle my teenie chiweenie, again never had a history of actually biting anyone, super playful, but just certain chances I don’t risk. Except w this one people just find it adorable & say “aw she must be a little feisty” my pit was just “aggressive”. Neither were/are either. Ultimately owners must be responsible when out in public w their dogs. Use what may seem like unnecessary precautions seriously.

  34. paddingtonjr says:

    There may be have been fault on both sides, but Kendall bears more responsibility because she left the scene. Although the child’s wound appeared to be only a “nip” that didn’t break the skin, there may be additional injuries. Also, like a car accident, the police (or more likely Animal Control) need to have a record of the incident in case there are additional incidents.

  35. Molly says:

    As a Doberman owner, here are my thoughts on all this:

    1- Dobermans are very intelligent, sometimes sensitive, and very active. This is a high maintenance breed. I cannot personally imagine owning a Dobie and having a jetsetting lifestyle…this dog needs its person in its life on a daily basis in order to feel relaxed and secure. They bond to their person so, so much. I cannot even go to the bathroom without my Dobie making sure I’m still in the house. They don’t call Dobies “velcro-dogs” for no reason. We have made many adjustments to our lifestyle, our vacation plans, etc because finding a dog sitter or a boarder for a Dobie is not as simple as one for our Pomeranian. I do wonder if Kendall’s dog wishes she was a more constant presence but that is just speculation on my part.

    2- I don’t blame Kendall for leaving the restaurant with the dog. Dobermans have a reputation and the public is very judgmental of Dobies in general, thinking they’re all dangerous, in part because of their appearance and in part because of their reputation. In this scenario, it was probably safest for Kendall to remove the dog from the restaurant and get it home before there was a confrontation, which may have heightened the dog’s anxiety and actually made it more inclined to be defensive/aggressive. It’s Kendall Jenner….they know where to find her, and I suspect she left there knowing that.

    3- I don’t let people touch my Dobie without express permission when we’re out and about but some parents are idiots about expecting that their children can run up and grab my boy’s ears/face/neck just because “we had Dobermans when I was a kid and they are the beeeeesssstttt dooooogggss”. Shut up and get your kid away from my dog. I have repeatedly had to put my hand around my dog’s muzzle and remove him physically from a child because the kid wrapped it’s arms around my dog’s neck. As his owner, my instinct is to put my hand around his muzzle so he cannot react and defend his personal space. Tell me you wouldn’t feel weirded out if a random toddler ran up and squeezed your neck. And if you’re a young Doberman, yeah, you might react badly and then it’s your fault even though the kid and its parents are the ones that are poorly trained. If I have someone politely ask to touch my dog, I will allow them to pet his back a little but I will hold his head and verbally remind him the whole time that “this is a friend” and he is Okay. But most people aren’t that bright or polite and just assume they can grab him.

    4- Yes I take my “super duper dangerous” Doberman with me. He goes to work with me. He goes to Lowes. He goes to the pet store. He goes to wineries. He goes out to eat. He goes to the park. He goes to art walks. Dobermans are highly intelligent and need socialization and exposure to the world, or they will become more anxious and fearful which leads to aggression. No, I do not muzzle my Doberman, but I do use a concealed prong collar on him. He is a good dog, he has never bitten anyone, and I have had him in professional training since he was a few months old. My Doberman was attacked and bitten by a Pomeranian at an art walk and just stood there and tolerated it while the Pomeranian’s owner laughed about how “funny and ferocious” her little dog was. Then he was refused entry to a patio restaurant because they suddenly had a “new policy” of “no dogs over ten pounds”….yet he is better behaved than the yip-yaps that dart all over the place and trip people with their retractable leashes.

    5- Yes I got him for security purposes…I work at an isolated warehouse near the train tracks with a large homeless population, and his mere presence keeps them from coming into my building. I am no longer scared to go on walks at dusk. He patrols my house at nighttime. But he also sleeps in my ten year old’s bed and I have never once feared that he was a threat to anyone unless that person had ill intent towards my family or my property.

    6- I didn’t cut his ears but some breeders don’t allow pups to leave without the ears done and will refuse to sell to people who won’t do the ears, so that may not have been Kendall’s choice. I asked for permission to leave the ears natural because I wanted my Dobie to have a softer look so we wouldn’t face as much discrimination.

    All in all, I am sad about this situation because this will help perpetuate the reputation of Dobermans as dangerous animals. They are no more dangerous at brunch than most other breeds, but because we think of them as protection dogs, or guard dogs, they will always be judged more harshly. I have been bitten by boxers, chihuahuas, and mutts and I’ll take my Dobie over all of those breeds any day.

    • Lynne says:

      Boyfriend could have stayed to make sure the mother got the pertinent information. They need to verify that the dog has rabies vaccinations

    • Veronica S. says:

      There is no situation where it’s acceptable to consider a dog’s safety over a human’s in this scenario. The worst case scenario – there’s nobody there to help you wrangle the animal, which it isn’t – you take it outside, you immediately contact the restaurant to explain what you are doing, apologize, and then you give the family your information so you recompensate them for any medical expenses incurred. You don’t abandon the scene and leave the family scared and uncertain because a strange dog bit a kid.

      And I say this because something similar happened with OUR dog, and we immediately took action to separate him from the scene, checked the individual for damage, and then kept in contact with them for potential complications. The human takes priority. Always.

    • mlt says:

      I’m a Dobie owner, too. We brought him everywhere with us as a pup – restaurants with patios, dog parks every weekend, stores where we could bring him. He was socialized so well, and we did obedience, etc. Almost got CGC but he couldn’t stop messing with the brush they brought out. Around 1 however, his protection instinct kicked in high gear. He’s fantastic with all of our friends and family, including kids.

      But we have a very specific protocol to introduce strangers now, from sessions with a canine behaviorist. They have to stay still and ignore him until he softens (usually within a minute or so). Most people cannot handle this, so I’ve stopped bringing him to most public places bc people will approach without asking or just not be able to help themselves from trying to pet him. My boy is not unpredictable – he gives all the signs in the expected order. But the signs are scary when you have a 75+ lb Dober snarling at you. Some dogs are just like this, intensely protective. We’re friends with some other Dobie owners from our breeder (some same line) and they all have different personalities.

      If you have a dog like ours – or really just in general – it’s imperative for us as owners to understand our dogs’ behaviors and triggers, and act accordingly. For us this means don’t take our guy to restaurants where strangers could approach sans protocol. She may need to do the same. Hopefully she learns from this.

  36. ChipnSticks says:

    I feel the real crime here is that THE DOG’S OWNER LEFT! WTF? Immature, entitled, and stupid b1tch. Plus that Insta post is troubling.

    • stacey says:

      yeah the post almost is making a joke out of the situation? she is pretty much just asking for that dog to be quarantined. She sucks.

      Dogs bite when they feel threatened and in stressful situations. I hope she stops dragging this poor dog to brunch because the dog doesn’t sound like he enjoys it if he is acting our aggressively or he needs more training. Not all dogs are suitable for public places like a fancy restaurant and why make your dog suffer through it? Leave the dog at home….or stay home.

  37. Forwhatitsworth says:

    I hate when dog owners blame it on the kid – I get that sometimes it’s TOTALLY the kid. But its not always. I was at a playground with my kid last summer and he pointed to a dog tied to the tree (on a “dog free playground” mind you). I asked the owner if we could pet the dog. She said yes. I stood right next to my kid telling him “gently, yes, like that” – the dog even put her leg up in the air. Then she rolls back over, still my kid is gently petting her back and I’m glued to his side. The dog turns and snaps right on his hand, scaring the shit out of him and hurting him. The owner then says “oh, she feels threatened when she is tied up like this.” Um….isn’t that kind of why I asked you first??

  38. Summer says:

    My daughter was bit by a German Shepherd while we were babysitting a friend’s kids. The family insisted he was super sweet and loved kids, so I let my daughter gently pet the dog and SNAP! he bit her wrist, leaving deep puncture wounds. When we went to the doc, they reported the incident to animal control, so the dog was impounded. My friends were furious and insisted I split the fee! They couldn’t believe he would bite a child unless provoked, because he didn’t bite their kids. I refused, but (against my better judgment) agreed to testify that the dog had shown no other signs of aggression that night. This lowered their fee, so they could bring the dog home. Wish I hadn’t, because the dog went on to bite two more children after that before he was put down. And still, the family blamed the kids for the loss of their dog.

    Since then, I’m not a big dog fan (esp aggressive breeds that I personally believe should not be kept as house pets) and really dislike people who bring their animals into public places. Also, I’ve had multiple experiences since with friend’s dogs snipping at me or my kids with no provocation. They always say, “They’ve never done that before.” Suuuure, Jan.

  39. stacey says:

    I have had many dogs through out my life. Grumpy ones, lazy ones, high maintenance ones. I currently huge 115lb dog. I see no problem taking dogs to restaurants that are Dog Friendly. Kendall sounds like she make a rookie mistake and hopefully she doesn’t stress her dog out again. The dog nipping the child is also awful for the dog too, obvious her pooch was stressed and acting out and she should not bring the dog back to that spot.

    Dog friendly? And I don’t mean Lazy Dog Restaurants ( 15 canines on a crowded patio is my worst nightmare and the definition of NOT dog friendly LOL)

    Dog friendly to me:

    1.) They allow the dog on the patio

    2.) The patio is laid out in such a way that I can get ample space for my dog. I particularly like to choose restaurants where I can get a table in a far corner with lots of space and away from crowds of people. I’m using the word “restaurant” loosely here. I’m talking hot dog stands with a couple tables/umbrellas, taqueria’s with a patio, a Dairy Queen, a hole in the wall mom & pop joint in a bad part of town or on a busy street no one would are sit outside at , or an unpopular restaurant with an empty outdoor seating area. The whole idea here is to find an outdoor patio that has NO one or only a few people. Obviously we are not “brunching” with white linens and my 115lb dog.

    3.) I do not let any strange children pet my dog, no matter how friendly my dog at the time is. and if I survey the patio of a resturant and see the only table available is located near children/other dogs – I will not sit there. period. It is a rule of mine . I’ve generally noticed with my current dog, people ask me permission to pet her which is nice but I usually always tell children “No, my dog is grumpy” and make a joke.

    4.) I also do not socialize my dog at dog parks. I just am a big believer in not setting my dog up for failure. My dog is huge and if she ever did get aggressive, it would cause damage. I’m lucky she is shy and generally dissappoints people in her lack of interest but I prefer this over aggressive behavior any way due to her size.

  40. Bitsy says:

    WTF?!?! Anyone who thinks a 3 year old should be faulted for anything at all is absurd. 3 year old toddlers don’t know cause-and-effect, logic, or the ways of the world. They are also prone to being jumpy and excitable. I teach my toddlers a whole lot of concepts and rules that won’t stick with them until well into their teens and as a parent I know that even 1 second of blinking can end in them roaming.
    But is that even the case here? We are assuming the child approached the dog. Bottom line dog owners must remember that no matter how much we love our babies, they are not humans. They are territorial and easily agitated.

  41. Bflogirl says:

    Dogs are dogs. They can behave unpredictably. If you choose to bring your dog to a patio, and the dog bites or nips someone, regardless of what was done to the dog you are accountable. It’s irrelevant what somebody thinks how their dog will react in a situation, it’s how they actual respond that counts.

  42. beepers says:

    We have 4 dogs, 2 rescue bullys, a lab, and a Cane Corso. My corso is 6 months old and weighs 90 pounds. We take him out to lunch quite often. And to Lowes and Home Depots and other stores where pets are specifically allowed. It’s part of puppy socialization, so I most certainly do not find fault with her for bringing a big dog out to lunch. BUT while we are out, we are hyper focused on our dog and his body language. If we are out to eat, we ask for a corner patio table where I can put him so anyone that wants to say “hello” has to go through me first. If there are kids around I am at attention the whole time. Now my pup loves every one and everything and is very mellow, does not jump, and is especially gentle around kids, but I still am vigilant about watching his body language.

    • Ash says:

      Beepers. Cane corso is my forever dream dog! I’ve spent hours watching videos of them on YouTube! I’m so jealous you have one. My vet told me he’d divorce me if I got one. 😝 love to hear more about it. They are so handsome. I love a good guard dog. One that is looking out for their family. But I also remain responsible for my skittish guard dog (Chinese Shar-Pei) at all times!

      • beepers says:

        They are the best dogs ever! Definitely not for a first time dog owner, as they are very stubborn and will take control if you let them, but the most loyal, loving velcro dogs ever. They take TONS of socialization and training, but so worth it. My vet LOVES my Archie and he goes to daycare a few times a week as well. You can follow my pups on their IG account @daysofmypupperslives :)

  43. LadyT says:

    “Cute but she’ll rip your face off” -then takes the dog to a small patio around other people, including young children. No excuse for it.

  44. JennyJazzhands says:

    My pomeranian/sheepdog mix likes to herd small children. She’s my child wrangler when I babysit.

  45. JennyJazzhands says:

    Children have asked me if they can pet my dog and when I say no they do it anyway. My dog is incredibly frightened of unfamiliar people. Once a little child came toward her and she backed right out of her harness and ran home. People don’t listen.
    Also, this family has a history of being horrible pet owners. What happened to kendall’s great Dane that she kept locked in the laundry room?

  46. Erin says:

    As a dog lover who has had a large dog, and ALSO as a mom to a toddler, I have to say, no matter what went down it is the dog owner’s responsibility. When I was in charge of my Rottweiler mix (may he RIP) I was aware that the dog’s behavior was ALWAYS on me, no matter what type of provocation/justification could be provided for it (he was scared/he was surprised/you should have asked before you approached him). They are animals and we are trying to fit them in to human society, human rules apply (i.e., no biting even when provoked). As an aside, I was recently out to dinner on a restaurant’s large patio with my husband and our year-and-a-half old daughter. There was a woman with an aggressive dog seated very close to us. The dog growled and lunged toward us when we were seated at our table. The restaurant did nothing in terms of asking the dog owners to leave or better manage the dog. Because we were seated so close, I could hear the owner’s conversation and I was aware that the dog owner was drinking quite a bit, and was apparently out on a date. Her full attention was not on the dog, except when she was also feeding her dog off of her plate USING THE RESTAURANT FORK. Okay gross. Anyhow, we were highly monitoring our daughter and did not enjoy our meal in the same way we would have had there been a responsible dog owner nearby.

  47. JRenee says:

    Lot of blame placed without knowing the details. It doesn’t look good that she left without speaking to the parent and the IG post is not a good sign, whether exaggerated ur not.

  48. lil says:

    I have a nervous (had rough beginnings) pitbull terrier and when we go for walks and hikes she puts on a lightweight plastic greyhound racing muzzle that fits her face well- she actually likes it. The “spokes” are thin and she has full range of movement. It actually seems to make her feel safe and seems comfortable- she can pant heavily and drink water and it signals that she prefers a polite amount of space to both dogs and owners… It’s been a positive experience and a number of people have asked where she got it (google- I think hers came from Australia). I recommend if it suits your dog’s situation. (She definitely wears it around small children and cats as she has a very high prey drive.)

    • lil says:

      edit- when she’s wearing her “safety mask” she’s very docile around children- but she does need the mask.

      • lil says:

        To be clear, we are largely rural. We do not go crowded “public” places. That being said, (controversial opinion) I’m a fan of a well-fitted spacious and comfortable muzzle on a dog in public, and I wish there were more options on the market. When I lived in the city I trusted less than half of dogs & owners I saw in terms of manners and boundaries. Older or less-mobile people as well as children are “at-risk” for crappy dog behaviour: jumping, herding, rough play-greetings, etc..-
        (I mean, I hate to say this, and it’s macabre,…but seriously, people- never trust any dog not to bite the baby. For the baby’s sake.)

  49. Ash says:

    Thank you to the above poster. I wish more people would do this instead of brushing it off and saying “it’s just the way you raise them”. Yes! It is, but I have a bully breed myself and if it is in the long bloodlines to fight, these dogs MIGHT be more prone to fight! Be responsible for your dog. I would love it if I could run my dog around town to go with me everywhere, but she hates the car and I’m not positive she’ll be friendly to everyone we meet so I control her interaction. I dunno the K’s have showed over time to be irresponsible dog owners. Sorry, this is another such time

  50. Icantremembermyusername says:

    Tired of being subject to potentially lethal animals in public places. Love dogs, have them, worship them- but I don’t subject public to them. No.

  51. Rachelina says:

    My now 5 year old son was bit by the dog of a family friend over a year ago. What everyone called a “nip” turned into full blown cellulitis less than 12 hours later, and landed him in the hospital for 4 days.
    The fact that Kendall left the scene without leaving any contact info to the parent leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
    ETA and no, my son was supervised around the dog and did not provoke him. He was actually minding his own business, the dog went after the potato chip in his hand.

  52. livealot says:

    Yes Kendall sux for leaving but i’m tired of
    the folks complaining on this thread about the “trend” of bringing ones pet everywhere. We make such a big issue about mental health/illness so if a fur baby eases the stress of human owners by bringing them along,then my god ALLOW IT.

    *end rant.

  53. chrissyms says:

    we have a boston terrier who is very patient with kids but a little jumpy around dogs. We ALWAYS LEAVE HIM HOME when their are going to be crowds. He gets walked and ran but he has no place in a big crowd. I have no idea why people bring their dobermans to breakfast.

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