The White House has ‘limited the scope’ for the FBI’s Kavanaugh investigation

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testifies at Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington

To recap, Supreme Court nominee – and current federal judge – Brett Kavanaugh threw a massive tantrum, an unhinged hissy fit during his hearing on Thursday. He was full of rage, white rage, the rage of a privileged douchebag who has never been questioned or second-guessed, never had to answer for anything. He’s spent his whole life being insulated from consequences, insulated by his white skin and by “boys will be boys” and by his family connections and his own connections within the upper-crust worlds of Washington and the Ivy League. He couldn’t believe that one of his victims would want to hold him accountable, and he was disgusted that his bros on the Senate Judiciary would have the audacity to listen to Dr. Ford. His bros were full of apologies for it, but still, Brett Kavanaugh rage-stroked and beer-testified his way through it.

Any sentient human being could see that his bluster and rage was part of an increasingly thin facade of lies. He lied about everything. It didn’t matter – the Senate Judiciary voted on party lines to move his nomination out of committee, and onto the Senate floor for a vote. Senator Jeff Flake had announced his plan to vote for Kavanaugh before he attended the Judiciary Committee’s hearing. It was on his way to that hearing that protesters shamed him. Flake was shook, justifiably so. Those old men thought Kavanaugh’s rage was something heroic – wait until they see all of us and how angry we are.

Anyway, as I said, Flake was shamed. He went into a small sidebar conference with Sen. Coons, and afterwards, Flake announced that while he was voting for Kavanaugh to come out of committee, Kavanaugh would not have his vote on the floor unless the Republican senators and the White House authorized a more extensive FBI investigation and delayed the floor vote for a week to allow for the FBI’s investigation. It actually worked. Sort of. The senators agreed with Flake’s plan, and the White House was put on the spot. Finally, Trump authorized the FBI to investigate. With a catch:

The White House is limiting the scope of the FBI’s investigation into the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, multiple people briefed on the matter told NBC News. While the FBI will examine the allegations of Christine Blasey Ford and Deborah Ramirez, the bureau has not been permitted to investigate the claims of Julie Swetnick, who has accused Kavanaugh of engaging in sexual misconduct at parties while he was a student at Georgetown Preparatory School in the 1980s, those people familiar with the investigation told NBC News. A White House official confirmed that Swetnick’s claims will not be pursued as part of the reopened background investigation into Kavanaugh.

Instead of investigating Swetnick’s claims, the White House counsel’s office has given the FBI a list of witnesses they are permitted to interview, according to several people who discussed the parameters on the condition of anonymity. They characterized the White House instructions as a significant constraint on the FBI investigation and caution that such a limited scope, while not unusual in normal circumstances, may make it difficult to pursue additional leads in a case in which a Supreme Court nominee has been accused of sexual assault.

The limited scope seems to be at odds with what some members of the Senate judiciary seemed to expect when they agreed to give the FBI as much as a week to investigate allegations against Kavanaugh, a federal judge who grew up in the Washington DC area and attended an elite all-boys high school before going on to Yale.

President Donald Trump said on Saturday that the FBI has “free reign” in the investigation. “They’re going to do whatever they have to do,” he said. “Whatever it is they do, they’ll be doing — things that we never even thought of. And hopefully at the conclusion everything will be fine.”

[From NBC News]

Many legal experts and political-watchers don’t even believe the White House forcing a “limited scope” is about any concern that Julie Swetnick’s story has some merit. The theory going around is that Trump just loathes Michael Avenatti, Swetnick’s attorney, and that’s why Trump wanted to limit the FBI’s investigation. Of course, there are other theories: Kavanaugh has been in constant contact with White House counsel Don McGahn, and some are wondering if Kavanaugh told McGahn that an investigation into Swetnick’s claims could end up turning over some nasty stuff, and McGahn could have easily been the one pulling the strings on the “limited scope.”

What I don’t understand is this: if the FBI conducts their limited scope investigation and they happen to turn over new leads, new witnesses, new claims of assault and rape and abuse, are they not allowed to logically follow those leads?

U.S. Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh testifies before a Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington

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  1. Bella DuPont says:

    How can you give the FBI a pre-curated list of witnesses they can speak to that explicitly excludes some of the major accusers? It’s clear they’ve made sure that nobody on that list can add anything new to the story.

    This is not an investigation, it’s a farce.

    • Millenial says:

      It’s always been a sham. People were celebrating having the investigation at all, but what kind of investigation can be done in just one week? A sham one.

    • Bella DuPont says:

      Plus, to answer Kaiser’s (maybe rhetorical) question re new leads…..apparently, no – the FBI will not be permitted to talk to new leads outside the list permitted by the white house.

      So, on the one hand, the WH has severely limited the scope of the FBI’s “investigation” to a specific list of people. (NOT including Julie Swetnick).

      On the other hand, Donald Trump is loudly proclaiming that the FBI has “free rein” to investigate fully and do whatever they need to do to reach the truth.

      I don’t know how you could ever defeat people this unbelievably dishonest.

      • B n A fan says:

        With Sen Flake getting a weeks timeout, IMO this cooled the temperature in the country. The country was getting overheated the people were ready to blow. IMO, as I have said before Kav was going to show his true self as a liar, he was hostile and aggressive and partisan person at the hearing. How can he be given a seat on the Supreme Court when he cannot be impartial. He talked about the Clinton’s and the Democratic Party ect. I believe this man has a drinking problem, I believe he was drunk at the hearing, his actions and expressions was clearly someone under the influence of something/ stimulants.

        If this man was in line for a promotion at any business in this country I could not see how he would be promoted after his performance on Thursday. IMO, he would probably get fired from his present job.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        You are sooo right re being under the influence of something! I thought I was being biased, glad to know I’m not the only one who thought so.

        I wish I was American right now, just so I could go to Washington and make as much trouble over this sham as possible.


    • Susannah says:

      Can that be considered obstruction of justice by the White House?
      I’ve always assumed this FBI probe of only just one week wouldn’t uncover much and just be cover for Republicans to vote for Kavanaugh anyway. It’s just so depressing.

      • Jay (the Canadian one) says:

        It’s classified as a background check, not a criminal investigation, which is what gives the White House and/or Senate authority to limit scope without being accused of obstruction. They’re very sneaky that way.

      • Kit says:

        Surely if, in the course of a background check, a law enforcement agency is made aware of serious criminal allegations, they have a duty to investigate or refer to the appropriate law enforcement body to investigate? It’s all very baffling to me.

    • AnnaKist says:

      And it’s yet another example of men clubbing together and closing ranks in order to protect one of their own, demonise his accuser and suppress the truth.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        This got deleted earlier on:

        I just saw a tweet:

        “The Brock Turners of the world become Brett Kavanaughs who then protect Brock Turners.”

        (Brock Turner is the 19 year old college freshman who raped an intoxicated/unconscious girl on campus and was sentenced to six months (!) in prison and got out 3 months early).

    • Addie says:

      The newspapers will continue with their investigations and publish them for the world to see. There is nowhere to hide. So that’s something.

      It’s clear that Kav is a high functioning alcoholic, and probably has been since those high school days. A couple of Yale peers are now outing Kav’s drinking habits and they all tally: high school, college, workforce = nasty, belligerent when drunk which was a good deal of the time. And the testimony showed him as a liar, and nasty to boot when sober. What must he be like with beer in him?

  2. grabbyhands says:

    This doesn’t surprise me at all – the WH can’t avoid the investigation without the whole thing blowing up in their face, so they’re going to do their best to hamstring it instead.

    None of this convinces me that they won’t still confirm him even if they find something else. The whole embarrassing mess on Friday – including Lindsay Graham’s histrionics on this being the worst thing he’s ever seen in politics (a lie so outrageous I was honestly surprised he wasn’t immediately struck down by lightning) – should show that they are only giving this time to humor people.

    Oh, and the sudden hero worship of Jeff Flake can stop any minute. Being shamed into doing something IS NOT the same thing as doing the right thing. Flake is worried about his political capital and NOTHING ELSE. Just because he isn’t running for re-election doesn’t mean he isn’t looking further down the road. He has voted party line all the way and him saying something bad about 45 once does not make him a good guy. Same goes for Lindsay Graham, as we’ve seen. It’s pathetic how little it takes for people to suddenly believe they’re on our side even though they prove otherwise over and over again.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Grabbyhands I have also had it with Flake being heralded as a hero. Yes, obviously he did one good thing, but it was literally the BARE MINIMUM he could do, and he’s already stated he plans on voting to confirm Kavanaugh unless the FBI “turns up something new,” whatever that means. And if he votes yes, he gives cover to Collins/Murkowski/etc. to do the same.

      Flake is not up for re-election, clearly has some semblance of a conscience, and will have no problem finding a high-paying job once he’s left the Senate, so I have no idea why he doesn’t just do the right thing and vote no regardless of the investigation’s findings. Kavanaugh’s performance on Thursday alone was disqualifying and everyone knows it.

    • ChillyWilly says:

      Flake told an NBC reporter that the two women had nothing to do with his request for an investigation. So, yeah I think we can officially get off the Flake felt ashamed BS. I don’t know what his motivations were but they had nothing to do with empathy for sexually assault victims.

    • Rescue Cat says:

      I felt the same way about McCain.

  3. Lorelei says:

    This is all so ridiculous. Late last night, Trump tweeted that the “limited scope” story was false and his office wasn’t imposing any conditions. But he lies even more than Kavanaugh, so who knows.

    He thrives on this kind of constant chaos, so it’s hard to really know WTF is actually happening.

  4. Who ARE these people? says:

    Trump tweet-walked it back last night maybe sorta but I haven’t checked news this morning. What a farce. Already sick of Flake being treated as a hero for doing the bare minimum of his job.

  5. Snowflake says:

    This is nothing but a sham to pacify people. No matter what they find, Kav will pass.

  6. Margaret M says:

    I’m sorry- why are we talking about race AGAIN? You do realize you’re making racist statements, right?

    • Christine says:

      White people can’t be “victims” of racism. Literally by definition. That’s white privilege. Same goes for this comment. Do some research before making idiotic statements online.

    • Kaiser says:

      lmao – it’s somehow racist to point out that these ancient white dudes hate women, got it.

    • IlsaLund says:

      A person of color can be bigoted or prejudiced, but not racist. Learn the difference between the meaning of the words.

    • AustenGirl1975 says:

      Seriously?! In response to a story about how a corrupt administration tried to (illegally?) limit the scope of an FBI investigation into the credible allegations of sexual assault of a man who could be a supreme court justice, a man whose rage and lies and disrespect toward female Democratic senators was broadcast around the world, a man who yelled about his career being the result of his hard work without acknowledging that he was born an inch from the finish line in the marathon of life, the corrupt administration being caught stacking the deck in his favor then needing to walk it back in a f’cking tweet–in response to all that, you want to yell #NotAllWhitePeople?! and #ReverseRacism?!

      Instead of considering only how this story affects incredibly rich and powerful white men, try thinking about how this story affects survivors of sexual assault like me or the marginalized communities in America who have no representation among the old, rich, white, male decision-makers in this farce or those in the Black community whose sons and daughters are being killed based on mere suspicion that they’ve committed a misdemeanor–they don’t have the luxury of Kavanaugh’s rage and theatrics when they’re accused because their skin color marks them as fair game to any armed white person they offend.

  7. Lightpurple says:

    Flake is speaking here in Boston at an event tomorrow. The theater where the event is being held is asking the organizers to relocate

    • Lorelei says:

      I saw that on Twitter! Isn’t he making an appearance with a Dem senator? I didn’t read a lot about it but people seemed extremely pissed about his hypocrisy.

      • Lightpurple says:

        John Kasich, Republican Governor of Ohio is on the panel with him. Emerson College asked that the event be moved from its gorgeous, old but recently completely renovated Colonial Theater for security reasons. It’s now scheduled for somewhere in City Hall Plaza. He’s also scheduled at St Anselm’s in NH. Visits to NH smell of feeling out a presidential run.

    • Christin says:

      Speaking of events tomorrow…A city near me is basically shutting down mid-day Monday due to a Tweetolini rally. Even the elderly hot meal services for people many miles away is impacted by his visit.

  8. boredblond says:

    They still won’t release the great majority of his documents from working for the fed govt which is unheard of..every page should be public. That makes me wonder if we’ll ever know any facts about this investigation or if repubs will seal them.

    • Lorelei says:

      @BoredBlond agreed — he can produce 36-year-old handwritten calendars about what he did in HS but not correspondence from when he held a senior position in the WH (where it’s all digital and much more easily accessible)? GTFO.

      In addition to his shady behavior w/r/t his work with Starr, they are hiding something MASSIVE about his finances and I hope that Ronan Farrow is digging into it as we type.

  9. Desolee says:

    Let’s say we found out he was innocent for all the sex crimes.
    I haven’t been paying attention all these years since I’m in Canada (but I’m American too) but his demeanour seems to disqualify him even if he was totally innocent. (I totally don’t think he is btw.) but Clarence Thomas has kind of an angry face RBG too maybe an old ppl thing so not sure if the judges all act like assholes anyways? I thought judges should have peaceful godlike demeanours. Maybe stern only at the right moment NOT making shit about themselves and being defensive and also Rude to senators
    I was shocked how rude he was.
    SNL skit illustrated how I feel about him not needing any sex crimes to not be suitable

    • Maria says:

      I totally agree. Even if he is innocent his performance on Thursday is unacceptable for someone who aspires to that position. iMO he flunked his job interview real bad.

  10. Jerusha says:

    The SNL opener was as if they just took a clip of the actual hearing and played it. Very accurate.

    • Lightpurple says:

      I think some of it was word for word. Quite a few of them were struggling not to laugh.

    • isabelle says:

      My only disappointment they didn’t do the beer part though, when Brett was yelling about beer….but Matt Damon was perfect as him. Make sure to watch the 80’s party skit, dark humor that says it all about what is going on.

      • B n A fn says:

        Yes, MD went into the beer, “I like beer, do you” he used the word beer about six times. Try “you tube” to get the whole skit. That was so funny and Michael Cho, sp talked about BK up for the promotion to SC when if he went to Any business and acted that way he would not get that job or any other job.

  11. IlsaLund says:

    Kavanaugh has clearly demonstrated that he lacks the “judicial temperament” to be a sitting judge anywhere let alone on the Supreme Court….that should be what’s discussed especially in the news media. His behavior, histrionics and partisanship was astounding and that along with these sexual allegations should bar him from the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, this FBI investigation is nothing but a sham to provide cover for all the Senators who will vote yes to confirm him.

    • Giddy says:

      @Jerusha, thank you for that link. What an incredible article, and what an incredibly partisan hack and hatchet man is dear old Brett. His anger and animosity were on clear display during this last hearing. His incredible rudeness to Democrat Senators was on stunning. I firmly believe that he was so certain of a positive vote that he decided to show his disdain and hate toward the Democrats. It is impossible to believe that he would be a fair arbiter

    • Harryg says:

      Wow. What a disgusting orchestra. Why are they so evil? Why are they so unethical and greedy and nasty?

    • Truthie says:

      Jerusha, thanks so much for that link. I can’t even begin to imagine all the valid history that is being withheld from this confirmation hearing. The 20,000 pages that still “needs” to be confidential.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Interesting read – karma is a b!tch, what you give out comes right back at you. He’s got a taste of his own medicine and he spat it back out.

      Talk has started about impeaching him for lying at his hearings – Sanders said he needs to be investigated for it. Even if they don’t get him for this, his perjury will be used against him.

      Avenatti claims that his client hasn’t been approached by the FBI – they have limited the scope to Ford and Ramierez. They clearly don’t want Avenatti anywhere near this, why do they fear his client? Prob cause she can prove that he is a rapist.

      • Nic919 says:

        Avenatti can go directly to the FBI to report this. Nothing is stopping him from doing that. While I like how he gets under dump’s skin, he needs to stop complaining about being ignored on twitter and go directly to the FBI.

      • Pamela says:

        “They clearly don’t want Avenatti anywhere near this, why do they fear his client? Prob cause she can prove that he is a rapist.”

        This client is the one that said she saw Kav at several parties where there were gang rapes. My guess is that she is one of the more dangerous witnesses for them in that she was at numerous parties, with MANY people, and that could lead to them finding more witnesses? So if they keep her out of the investigation, it makes it harder for anything Ford said to be corroborated. So far, no one Ford named has been able to back her up………(I believe her), but this other client? She may be the ticket to more witnesses.

  12. Rapunzel says:

    Meanwhile, Trump is saying he “fell in love” with Kim Jong Un. So of course he’s doing whatever he can to help BK get on the court. It’s his get out of jail free card. Someone, somewhere needs to act right now.

    I do believe that Trump limited the scope of the investigation but he’s now been foiled because it became public information. He was hoping it wouldn’t and that he could just sneakily get away with it. He does this all the time. Plot to do something outlandish, get caught by the media before it can happen. walk it back, and then blame the media for lying.

  13. Dana marie says:

    I hope a private investigation regarding Julie Swetnick’s claim occurs asap since it clearly appears that FBI will not go there.

    • Pamela says:

      Me too. As I said above, I get the impression that she witnessed things and sadly, experienced them too….at parties where there were a lot of people. A good investigation would be able to turn *something* up. More victims, or someone else that was involved that regrets it. Something.

  14. Mel says:

    I watched Trump’s speech about how the FBI was great and could do whatever they wanted. Limited scope or not, there is another outcome possible.
    Did you catch when he said “he didn’t know Kavanaugh before but his name was brought up and he was acting on recommendation”?
    This is his classic” just the coffee boy/ barely know him” M.O.
    I think he’s been advised to keep the support while starting to distance himself.
    He still praised him and lamented that he is the victim in all this but…there was a bit more distance.
    If the FBI finds something (and I honestly believe they will) and the GOP decide not to confirm him, he’ll be able to play the “I was duped” card like he did with Cohen via Rudy appearing on every news show.
    Now, the chances of this are very slim though because let’s also remember something that bothers me. It’s that whatever comes up, it is NOT to be made public.
    I won’t hold my breath that Flake will “save the day” twice without the pressure of public opinion or other SUPER BRAVE people like Maria Gallagher and Ana Maria Archila.
    He may very well hear that the results of the investigation are not good and still vote for him because, nobody will be able to hold him (and his colleagues) accountable.
    In other words, they are preparing for every possible outcome but still pushing him forward.
    That’s just my opinion, of course.
    But I think his team told him to be less effusive about Kavanaugh so as to avoid too much collateral damage if things don’t pan out.

  15. Chef Grace says:

    And the beat goes on….
    just like with the investigation of 45 NOTHING will be done.. Smoke and mirrors while they rig this election.

  16. L says:

    My consertive mother said to me this morning “You better hope none of the girls your husband works with ever accuses him of assault, because his life will be ruined.” I said “Well as long as he doesn’t assault anyone, that shouldn’t be a problem.” She responded with “That doesn’t matter anymore, if a woman just SAYS that something happened, it doesn’t even have to be proven.”

    😑😑😑 I really hope this all works out for the best and this investigation brings to light some things. It’s clear that he’s lying but I just want justice for this poor woman and all the women who are told they’re just making this up.

    • Esmom says:

      Yeah, some MAGAt on twitter told me they hope my sons are falsely accused so that we’ll know how Kavanaugh feels. And Lindsey Graham all but promised to unleash false allegations next time a Dem nominee is up for confirmation. It’s a sick, sad world.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        This stupid threat from Lindsey Graham is a fantastic reason to stuff the courts with women only, going forward. The chances of them being caught with their pants down is significantly less, thank God.

    • isabelle says:

      That boomer generation (if she is a boomer) is just f’ed in the head with their generational narcissism and Fox News. I have no hope for them really.

      • Maria says:

        I’m a boomer and I have no hope for us either.😒

      • BeanieBean says:

        I’m a boomer & I take offense at that. I guess that’s the narcissist in me.

      • JennyJenny says:

        As a “Boomer” that doesn’t watch Fox News nor possesses any “generational narcissism”, please do not generalize.

      • Jerusha says:

        Have to agree with Beanie and Jenny. We’re not all like that. It’ s best to use qualifiers like ‘many’ or ‘lots’ or ‘in my opinion.’
        But I do agree that there are way, way too many people with deplorable attitudes, beliefs, actions, and they range from Greatest Generation era all the way to Millenials.

    • Vava says:


    • jwoolman says:

      Anybody can be accused of theft, but those who are not thieves don’t really worry about that.

      Anybody can be accused of assault, but non-assaulters rest easy.

      Except of course for sexual assault, which we are supposed to be believe is so different that random men are being falsely accused all the time. You can see that even women join in this bizarre theory.

      If you report a non-sexual assault, nobody decides to not believe you because you have voluntarily engaged in a boxing match before. If you report a theft, nobody assumes you are lying because you have freely given money away on occasion.

      But with sexual assault – the victim is immediately suspected of falsely accusing if she has ever freely engaged in sexual activity before. Or even if she hasn’t.

      Have you asked your mother what she would have done if you had been assaulted at 15?

  17. Ruyana says:

    Late last night I read the Palmer Report on Facebook saying Cheetolini has reversed himself and said the FBI could investigate anyone. An attorney noted that he will be legally held to that tweet and cannot interfere with the investigation. Cheetolini reversed himself because the MSM reported on his earlier restrictions and it made him angry.

  18. KiddV says:

    They just need to prove he lied during these proceedings. That would be enough to sink him. There were plenty of lies, but Kamala Harris set him up perfectly with her last question.

  19. Derriere says:

    Limited in scope likely means limited to the recent sexual assault allegations. Hopefully, by going down the rabbit hole, they’ll find some corroborating evidence in support of Ford.

    The FBI should also be able to investigate the other discrepancies into his finances, his past work, and his judicial decisions. But the White House doesn’t want ACTUAL provable evidence to curtail their nomination.

    I’m just tired.

    • K2 says:

      Sadly not. Apparently, they’ve not just limited the accusers allowed to speak. They’ve blocked any ability to check Judge’s employment records (to narrow down date), any ability to talk to classmates about drinking habits, and any ability to talk to other contemporaries at the prep schools about the culture there. Nor are they allowed to investigate, yanno – whether he perjured himself or not. Because none of that’s of significance when you’re a Supreme Court Judge, clearly.

      This man is clearly a sex offender. If he were innocent, they’d be falling over themselves to get a decent investigation and Mark Judge would have been before the Committee, as would the other accusers. This is a cover-up, which means they all know. They just don’t GAF. His partisan hatred of the left and his hard right religious views are what they want, and the contempt for women is just part and parcel.

      • Pamela says:

        “They just don’t GAF. His partisan hatred of the left and his hard right religious views are what they want, and the contempt for women is just part and parcel.”

        I watched the hearing and kept screaming…like ya do…about how anyone could POSSIBLY think he was the one telling the truth. It took me a few days to finally understand. The Republicans really, really, really want him on the SC. They have their reasons…most obv being that he thinks a sitting president is above the law. But whatever the varied reasons, they want HIM IN. They do not care if he raped 20 women. They were screaming and mad because some lowly woman DARED to get in the way of his confirmation, period. This isn’t about whether he did it or not….not for THEM. They probably all believe her, they just do NOT

  20. Sansa says:

    Well Americans wanted a reality TV context for POTUS and that’s what we have now. People voted with their hearts and didn’t use their brains. The moment women cornered Flake in the elevator demanding he look her in the eye and her statements were very powerful. It’s good he changed his mind and asked for the investigation. Maybe more will come out and by next weeks the votes might change enough so Kavanagh is not confirmed.

  21. Maria says:

    This delay is just a hiccup. He will be nominated and he will be sitting on the highest court in the land. And his life won’t be ruined.

    • isabelle says:

      yep…Republicans have few Morales except the ones they get from their godlike mentality, cowards wanting to rule us with an iron fist, wanting to red cloak the women and use the Bible as our law. They care nothing about Americans and only care about their agenda, they will always do what keeps them in power.

  22. virginfangirl says:

    He lied. Of course he knows what the terms he used in his yearbook mean. Boofing does NOT mean farting like he said it does, Devils Triangle does NOT mean a drinking game like he said it does, etc. He lied to protect his image. He lied.

  23. JRenee says:

    Gamble V. US #17-646 is on Supreme Court docket 10-15-18. This would reverse the standing double jeopardy exclusion that allows you to be charged by a State after you have been charged by the feds . I’m reading that Orrin Hatch is behind this. If ruled in his favor, once you are pardoned, you won’t be allowed to be charged at State level.
    This is why Kavanaugh is being rushed through.
    All of these guys are trying to cover themselves so that any trump pardon would allow them to not worry about state charges.

    There is a ton of information about this.
    They are all aware and complicit.
    Absolutely purposefully covering their criminal asses!

  24. phlyfiremama says:

    Have y’all seen the FB meme Brendan Walsh made comparing the deranged one who would be a SCJ to Opossums making faces?? Do yourselves a favor and look it up~it is hilarious, and I think we could all use some laughs!! I have it posted on my page as well~

  25. Veronica S. says:

    Flake is a coward. Let’s not give him a modicum of credit for this. All this will result in is a highly restricted, farcical FBI “investigation” that will inevitably come up with very little, and the WH can just dickswing its way through the allegations claiming they did their job and everything is fine. And then Collins, Murkowski, and Flake can pretend to vote with a clean conscience knowing damn well they did absolutely nothing of value.

  26. K2 says:

    Crowdpac to fund Susan Collins’s opponent, should she vote to confirm the sex offender to SCOTUS:

    Crowdpac to fund Grassley’s future opponent, for championing the sex offender to SCOTUS:

  27. Keaton says:

    Here’s a comment that’s probably going to piss alot of folks off:
    I am in the minority but I do not understand the need people have to say “Don’t give Jeff Flake credit” I just do not get that POV.

    Simple question: Have you ever been cognitively and emotionally invested in something that you later discovered was wrong? If you have, then you know how hard it can be to change course. It can be painful as hell. That’s why I always give people credit for that type of thing, even if they’re just engaging in baby steps. I don’t think Flake was being calculating. I think his heart is in the right place. So yeah I’m giving him a little credit and I don’t see a problem with that. It doesn’t mean I’d ever vote for him if he ever runs for office again (he’s way too conservative for me to ever consider that), It just means I respect him for trying to do the decent thing and ensure the FBI at least gets a chance to talk to Mark Judge (among others). I’m far more focused on ensuring the likes of Lindsey Graham, et al pay for the partisan conspiracy mongering swill THEY spewed. Our country is so divided right now that Graham et al are INCENTIVZED to keep behaving that way (e.g., demonizing folks on the left & center and spreading batshit crazy conspiracies). There are a ton of right wing people who have been brainwashed by FOX and other rightwing outlets into believing the garbage those jackasses spewed. And that gives said jackasses cover to keep pushing their terrible agenda. There is no downside for them. What Flake did? That required some integrity. He actually cares about healthy democratic norms & institutions. (Few people care about that nowadays but they matter alot. Some. like Trumpians are actively hostile to healthy democratic norms & institutions). Bottom line: It would be far easier for Flake to play along and keep his mouth shut and land a cushy lobbying or corp position from the rightwing donor class. I don’t think we need to kiss his feet but he deserves some credit. And more importantly, we should be focused on ensuring Graham, McConnell, Grassley, Kavanaugh, etc PAY for their lying partisan garbage because that crap feeds on itself. It’s like a damn virus. They need to be scared away from going full Trumpy not encouraged to do it more.
    Anyway, that’s just my two cents.

    • Veronica S. says:

      Flake had his moment to act with integrity at the committee vote. He chose to let Kavanaugh through anyhow. Kavanaugh’s performance and behavior, the sense of entitlement he portrayed in acting as though the appointment was something he EARNED rather than an immense duty and honor bestowed upon him by the nation, his choice to politicize it from the get go, as well as the fact that he’s now mired in accusations from three women, should have been more than enough for anybody with a sense of basic decency and understanding toward the gravitas of a SC nomination to rescind their vote.

      Graham and the others are equally to blame (a nice f*ck you to consummate rich white women Collins and Murkowski, at that), but they never tried the game of playing coy about their vote or making a stand against Trump. Flake’s picking up the flak because he pretended to be something he’s not, and nobody is falling for it. He and rest of the party will gladly throw us all to the wolves to get their conservative judge in. All he is to me is one more white man revealing how little he gives a sh*t about women and minorities.

      And all the while, they are doing this will having the audacity to accuse Democrats of playing partisan politics after they literally stole a SC position from the last president.

  28. jwoolman says:

    It’s ridiculous to limit the people the FBI can interview. The interviews can come up with new information and more names. They have to be free to pursue whatever leads turn up and check records. Hopefully Trump’s tweet means somebody got that through his thick head. If he is lying or reverses that, it should not be considered a real investigation and the Republicans who promised to vote no if the FBI was not allowed to investigate had better fulfill that promise.