Virginia Giuffre goes on-camera to describe being trafficked to Prince Andrew

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When we last checked in with Prince Andrew a week ago, he was making another smarmy trip to church with his mummy, the Queen. I attempted to track Andrew’s movements since Jeffrey Epstein’s death in a Manhattan jail, and basically Andrew has been running around like a chicken with his head cut off, meeting with lawyers and crisis managers and spending time with his ex-wife and trying to do events in Northern Ireland. And at the end of the day, he still ran back to mummy for a church-ride photo-op. So gross.

The only good thing to come from Epstein’s death is that there’s now so much focus on Prince Andrew’s participation in Epstein’s crimes, and Andrew’s (alleged) abuse of trafficked girls. Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell seemed to take a special interest in getting “girls” for Andrew – we’ve heard stories about Maxwell procuring young women to “introduce” to Andrew, only Andrew had no game and all of the women were grossed out by him so they always left him in the lurch. Which is why Maxwell arranged for Virginia Roberts (Giuffre), then 17 years old, to be trafficked to Andrew. In a new interview with the Today Show, Virginia and several of Epstein’s other victims spoke out on camera. Virginia got a stand-alone interview because she’s still going on the record about being trafficked to Prince Andrew. This interview is powerful:

Today, one of the women who came forward about being recruited into Jeffrey Epstein’s high-profile sex trafficking ring told NBC that she was instructed to have sex with Prince Andrew.

“He was an abuser. He was a participant,” Virginia Roberts Giuffre told NBC’s Savannah Guthrie in a taped interview. Giuffre said she was recruited into Epstein’s operation by associate Ghislaine Maxwell while she was working as a locker room attendant at Mar-a-Lago. NBC showed a photo of then 17-year-old Giuffre smiling next to the Duke of York and Maxwell. Giuffre said the photo was taken near a bathroom where Prince Andrew later sexually abused her.

“I was so young,” Giuffre said. “Ghislaine woke me up in the morning and said, ‘You’re gonna meet a prince today.’ I didn’t know at that point that I was going to be trafficked to that prince.” She said that the Duke arrived to Maxwell’s home in London and took her out to Club Tramp, where he bought her alcohol in the VIP section and they danced.

“Ghislaine said, ‘He’s coming back to the house and I want you to do for him what you do for Epstein,” Giuffre said. “I couldn’t believe it.”

Giuffre also told Guthrie that the sexual abuse eventually moved from the bathroom into the bedroom. She said, “He wasn’t rude or anything about it. He said, you know, ‘Thank you,’ and some kind of soft sentiments like that, and left. I just couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe that even royalty were involved.”

He abused her twice more after that initial event, once in Epstein’s New York home and another in Epstein’s Virgin Islands estate, Giuffre said. Buckingham Palace responded to Giuffre’s account, telling NBC in a statement, “It is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts. Any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation.” Buckingham Palace has previously denied Giuffre’s accusation. Prince Andrew has also put out a statement saying his friendship with the disgraced Epstein was “a mistake and an error.” To that, Giuffre said, “He knows the truth and I know the truth.”

[From Harper’s Bazaar]

With each passing day, I grow more and more disgusted with Maxwell’s depravity. She pretty much ran the human trafficking organization from top to bottom, didn’t she? She procured the girls for Epstein, many of them teenagers. She psychologically abused them and took an eager role in grooming them for Epstein. Then she trafficked the girls to Epstein and other men. It’s just… disgusting. I have so much respect for Virginia and the journey she’s had for years now, trying to tell her story and trying to be HEARD.

And finally, this is a real story in the Sunday Times of London.

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  1. Sierra says:

    Andrew is going down and I hope Trump goes down as well.

    • (TheOG)@Jan90067 says:

      I COMPLETELY believe her!!

      MI6 came out yesterday saying they believe Russia has “compromising” links of Pedo Andy to Pedo Epstein. Probably video that Epstein was famous for “collecting” of his friends “in the act” (a lot were seized in the FBI raids; wanna bet Epstein also sold copies to “others”, as insurance?).

      This could include vids of Dump, Barr and others as well “partaking” at Epstein’s parties, some of what Putin is holding over their heads. Makes me wonder…Miss #LeningradLindsey did a complete 180* on Dump after that infamous golf game. Wonder if Dump told him just what the Russians/Epstein had on *him*….?

      • Bettyrose says:

        I absolutely believe her. Mygawd she was a child up against powerful, threatening people. In grad school, I once passed on reporting a professor who’d said really inappropriate things to me because I felt reporting it would be worse for me than him. I can’t even imagine how terrified and alone these girls felt.

      • Whitecat says:

        You guys, it’s not just trump – it’s all the elites. They cover for eachother and somehow remain in power and definitely not behind bars – Exhibit A – prince Andrew. Exhibit B – Israeli former prime minister Ehud Barak who just go elected to parliament (and he was an associate of Epstein – receiving hundreds of thousands of money for research that never happened). Exhibt C – Alan Dershowitz who is still getting editorial Spots on many news channels and newspapers (and who was also named By Virginia as one of her Abusers). Why would we assume that Trump will ever got justice.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      Trump could rape a child on live TV and the GOP would still try to protect him

      • Tourmaline says:

        Yep. Sadly nothing is bringing Trump down short of ordinary mortality.. To his minions in Congress and the Courts and to his Base he is the messiah.

      • VS says:

        @Tourmaline — I think you meant the Senate; Congress as well but to a lesser extent

        I wonder about something: Can PA actually go to jail? can he be brought in front of a jury and have a ‘fair’ (LOL i.e. without mommy intervention) trial?

      • Tourmaline says:

        @VS Trump has plenty of GOP minions in the House of Reps as well although they don’t control that body like the Senate of course, although honestly the Dems in control of the House are not making a DENT in anything either.

      • UGH! says:

        Funny you should say that pottymouth. I was saying to a friend earlier today, that Trump could shoot someone between the eyes on-camera and nothing would happen to him.

  2. Devon says:

    I believe her!

    • PrincessK says:

      Yes, l believe her and she is also using the opportunity to make as much money for herself as possible.

  3. ThEHufflepuffLizLemon says:

    I believe all these women, emphatically.

    In addition, if it were actually false, wouldn’t the prince have quietly taken some sort of legal measures on this? Or done something? Maybe he shouldn’t have been dressed like a pedophile? Why was he hanging out in a VIP lounge? Shouldn’t he have been at home, like a good Prince?

    I am so grossed out I can barely summon my sarcasm.

    • Jules2 says:

      wouldn’t the prince have quietly taken some sort of legal measures on this? Or done something?
      ————————————————————————————————————————-
      Exactly. His letter on royal letterhead denying her claims is a joke and an insult. I’m surprised that Celebitchy hasn’t covered the subsequent letter Virginia’s lawyers sent to Andy. Lainey discussed it on her blog and it’s been in the news as well. Andy must be shitting bricks.

    • Sof says:

      That’s what I’m wondering as well, any innocent man being accused of participating in human trafficking and rape would surely have taken legal actions by now. The only reason I can think of is that there is more incriminating evidence we haven’t heard of yet.

  4. Mia4s says:

    Oh I believe her. And the British press continues with coverage of….how Meghan and Harry need to parade out Archie to repair their reputation. THEIR reputation??!!

    Stay racist trash British press, stay racist trash.

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      Afuckingmen. It’s absurd, really preposterous that there is this constant mention in the British press of how Meghan can redeem herself while all the while Andrew is swanning about with Mamma. Makes me ill.

  5. JRenee says:

    Kaiser yes you nailed it. Why isn’t this vile woman charged with trafficking???

    On another note, the Russians have Intel on so many apparently..

  6. Onerous says:

    Read up on Ghislaine Maxwell’s father – she was basically raised to fill this role. It’s generations of abuse and it’s gut wrenching and heart breaking. Ghislaine was also sleeping with these girls – it’s just mind boggling.

    • Jaded says:

      I think she’s just like her father, a monster. I wonder if she was molested by him as a young girl? It would explain her abhorrent behaviour.

      • bettyrose says:

        I really don’t want to read up on Ghislaine Maxwell, but I did observe in a previous thread that it sounds like she desperately craves male approval. Others disagreed, saying that she has her own wealth and social standing so doesn’t need approval from the likes of Epstein. Clearly, that’s not true, though, right? I mean she may not need approval from Joe Schmo on the street, but clearly she needs to be validated by the uber powerful, by men with more wealth and standing than she has.

    • SKF says:

      Does anyone have any good, deep-dive links on this? The story as a whole, the sex trafficking operation (how the girls were recruited, how they were kept in line, trafficked etc.) and on Ghislaine herself?

      • Whitecat says:

        Mintpress news has a 4 series article on Epstein, history of sexual blackmail by intelligence, Ghislaine Maxwell and her family, trump, etc. it’s a very good read.

  7. Digital Unicorn says:

    I believe her and all the others – I hope this forces Andrew to come clean about what he knows and what he did but it won’t. Mummy is determined to protect him.

    There is no way for the Palace to PR spin there way out of this one. Andrew has been cornered, if he doesn’t come clean the Monarchy and his mother’s legacy will be forever tainted by this.

  8. Brooke says:

    I think the government whether it be ours or the Russian, will release everything they have on Andrew. I don’t think he’s thwarted justice by any means. I think they are either waiting to get more evidence or just waiting until the right time to release it. In the mean time, I think it’s completely disgusting they have him parading around everywhere like he’s innocent and everything is great. Do they not realize how awful they look right now? They are protecting a pedophile. How oblivious can they be?

    I’m also curious as to what’s going to happen when the queen dies. My understanding has always been that Charles was not overly fond of Andrew. I wonder if things will change when it’s no longer the Queen’s legacy he has to protect but his own and his son’s.

  9. Boxy Lady says:

    I read the comments about this on DM yesterday and it was really gross. Most people were focusing on the fact that since she was 17, she had reached the age of consent for sex. Hello! She was trafficked! That’s illegal at any age! The regular DM demographic never fails to disappoint. 🙄

    • Jules2 says:

      This is one topic where the Fail screens comments prior to publishing. I’ve been following along and from day one, Andy’s supporters put the focus on her age – it’s legal at 17, so case closed. Sickening!!!!

    • Bookworm says:

      But this happened in the US also, not just the UK, so it doesn’t matter what the UK laws are.

      • Boxy Lady says:

        Every state in the US has its own age of consent, which is often confusing. The current NY one, if I am not mistaken, is 17.

      • Purplehazeforever says:

        Virginia Giuffre was trafficked..consent laws have no bearing on this. I’m surprised anyone is trying to bring this up. She was raped, abused..which can happen at any age.

      • Tia says:

        Her age is relevant because in order to convict Andrew of a criminal offence if the sex wasn’t de facto illegal because of her age, it is necessary to *prove* he knew she was trafficked, much more difficult than proving sex occurred (certainly in the U.K. this is an offence that requires knowledge of the trafficked status).

        I suspect the comments and the spin come from Andrew’s crisis management team – they appear to still be running a primary defence of ‘it never happened’ but they are lining up a secondary defence in case the videos come to light of ‘it happened but Andrew didn’t know she was trafficked so no criminal offence occurred’. The latter may trash his reputation but it may also keep him from criminal charges.

    • Rapunzel says:

      And today’s article on the Fail describes it as Andrew’ ” alleged tryst” with Epstein’s sex slave. It’s not a tryst. It’s rape

    • Shiba says:

      The trafficking is a crime on Epstein’s part. Andrew was simply gullible & thought this young girl liked him. Guider says she played up to Andrew to make him believe her.
      This whole mess is vile- but the 17 year old, who was not kidnapped & traveled willingly with Epstein, had agency. Where were her parents? There is enough blame for everyone here…

      • CairinaCat says:

        No, there is no blame on the teenagers (children) who were trafficked

      • Taneesha says:

        @Shiba, your post is just grotesquely gross. Now you blaming the victims and accusing them of lying? Now you accusing the victims’ parents of being bad parents? Rapist Andrew’s stans are stopping at nothing in yr quest to make Andrew be anything but the rapist he really is, its appalling. Andrew was “just gullible”? Rapist Andrew continued to rape enslaved girls/women after his friend rapist Epstein was convicted and jailed for human trafficking and sex enslaving crimes, didn’t he? Rapist Andrew knew exactly aware that he was committing crimes when he continuously raped that girl and many others that have not come out for fear of being blamed even though they are the victims. Andrew is NOT the victim here. Jeez!!🙄🙄🙄

      • whatWHAT? says:

        no, not for everyone, Shiba the victim-blamer.

        just for the those who deserve it. Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Pedo.

        THE VICTIM HOLDS NO BLAME.

        I’ll say that again in case you missed it.

        THE VICTIM HOLDS NO BLAME.

        don’t you dare try to blame a child for crimes committed against her.

  10. Tourmaline says:

    The BRF is shameless. Just last week this guy was sent on an official visit to Belgium!

    I don’t know if a King Charles would handle this better. But European monarchies where old monarchs abdicate and let new ones step up have the right idea. Clearly the Queen is completely out of touch and should be done.

    Or abolish the whole system where horrible men like this one have people bowing down to him because of who his mother is.

    • Bookworm says:

      It’s good though that other organizations canceled his attendance at their functions. It seems like enough information has come out that people aren’t afraid to start defying the BRF by making these decisions.

      It’s only going to get worse for him despite hiding behind his shameful mother.

    • line says:

      At the same time now they are at a standstill because if they decide to stop Andrew’s commitments, they will confirm his crime. For me, the members who work with british royality and the Windsor themself ,should have ordered Andrew and Fergie to stop all related with Esptein at the time he was accused of pedophilia. Even before because everyone knows that Esptein was attracted by very young girls.

      But the fact that this has not been done shows how much they do not care and finds that acceptable and have overestimated the air of social media and information continuously.

      For me, as long as the queen is alive, Andrew can continue to act as if nothing has happened and Beatrice will have her big wedding in Windsor.

      • Tourmaline says:

        It’s been reported that Andrew was advised to stop consorting with Epstein after he got out of jail. And it was reported that Andrew’s response was basically, eff off, he is my friend and I am loyal to my friends.

        Andrew (and his ex wife’s) modus operandi for over 20 years has been to cozy up to amoral moneybags in exchange for cash and good times on superyachts and private islands.

  11. Ange says:

    Abolish the monarchy…besides Meghan there all useless twats and I’m actually angry that a paedophile supporters head is on my my money….signed an angry canadian.

  12. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    I believe her. Full stop.

    The fact that the Pedo Prince is still out and about running free is disgusting. I can’t even find the words to say how angry I am.

  13. Joy says:

    Never thought I would root for the Russians but here we are.

  14. E says:

    Abolish the monarchy.

    Time and time again they have shown themselves for what they truly are. They are a racist and abusive establishment that has the gall to be funded by taxpayers who are struggling to live.

    #abolishthemonarchy

  15. Call_me_al says:

    The Dateline special was very good. Virginia was well-spoken, unapologetic (except for admitting that her participation in recruitment of more young victims will “always haunt” her), and credible.

  16. aquarius64 says:

    If MI6 is worried that means it thinks Andrew is a national security risk. Russia will blackmail him with what they know about him and Epstein to get information to compromise UK security. No amount of church strolls, throwing the Sussexes under the bus or trotting out the royal kids is going to make this go away. This should worry the Windsors – if they are perceived as endangering the nation by protecting Andrew it could bring down the monarchy. The queen should look to the past with her uncle Edward VIII, later Duke of Windsor. David was sympathic to Nazi Germany and was believed he would become Hitler’s puppet while on the throne. The government wanted him gone and used Wallis as the easy way to get him out. From that the Windsors should not count on the current government to protect them especially with Brexir going on.

    Some tabloid stories have Andrew being banished to Bermuda in the wake of the scandal. If true the Windsors know they have a problem. BP has made no statement on the MI6 story, meaning the royals are afraid Russia will show receipts ( like videotape) the moment it’s denied.

  17. Ceecu33 says:

    Maxwell sounds like a monster no worse than any of them. I hope she’s indicted next

  18. Jean says:

    I do not know much about Prince Andrew nor do I wish to know him.
    Yes, the girl was young at the time of her encounter with Andrew but she was at the age of concent legally in New York. There is no legal basis to charge Andrew that I can see. Was that the legal age of consent when and where all the events occurred, I do not know but currently 17 is the age of consent in New York.
    The word pedophile is used too loosely. Pedophilia is horrid but will the word lose its seriousness when it is thrown around so casually when it may not apply? I do not think it applies here.
    My questions are, could the girls leave? Were they free to come and go as they choose.
    How did they get out of that lifestyle? Could they have gotten out earlier? What were the ages of the women that Epstein used, I think they were not yet at an age of consent, hence what Epstein did was a crime. I have a lot of questions but I have other things to think about.

    • Jinjie says:

      Well done for doing your research about age of consent. These women sadly were very young when they had the misfortune to encounter Maxwell and Epstein. However, the age of consent in NYC and the UK is 16. Therefore there is zero legal basis to charge Andrew much less call him a paedophile even if there is very little to like about him. He is however, guilty of choosing to continue to associate with a felon – utterly distasteful and vile however, and sadly, not exactly illegal either.

    • Amy says:

      Woah, woah, woah. I actually work in the court system. I deal with cases involving minors can say that there most certainly IS a legal basis to charge Prince Andrew.

      Regardless of the age of consent, the girls were still victims of child sex trafficking (which is legally defined as a person under the age of legal majority-which is 18 in both the US and UK-who has been sex trafficked.) Hell, even if it was 50-year-old women who were being trafficked there would still be a basis to charge him, as sex trafficking is a sex crime regardless of the victims’ ages.

      The age of consent argument doesn’t hold up in cases like this because the fact that the girls were trafficked negates their ability to give consent. In other words, a person who has found to have been sex trafficked cannot legally give consent, much like a person who is under the age of consent cannot give consent. And when it comes to operations run in AND out of the the US, child sex trafficking (which, again, is legally defined as the trafficking of anyone under the age of 18, regardless of the age of consent in whatever jurisdiction the crime took place) is a VERY serious federal crime.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Amy, thank God for your response because l couldn’t wrap my head around the “she’s of the age of consent” argument to validate such a heinous crime. Just because you’re the age of consent or well beyond it doesn’t matter. Sex trafficking is illegal! They were tricked and recruited and taken advantage of their young age. And the women are the victims of rape here. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.

      • Jaded says:

        Let’s not forget these teenagers were lured and manipulated by a very sick but very wily woman in whom they placed their trust. She is a master at this game and pretty much “Stockholm Syndromed” these girls into thinking they could have fabulous careers and make a ton of money just by “giving massages” to famous, rich men. She slowly but surely broke them, just like breaking a horse, into subservience and self-loathing.

    • Lady D says:

      They were young girls, stolen and trafficked, their flipping age has nothing to with the fact they were raped over and over and over again for the pleasure of filthy, dirty men who raped them with abandon. Some of these girls were very very young, but if it’s okay in New York, who cares about their consent?
      As for calling Andrew a pedophile, do you really for one second believe he knew or cared about the ages of the slave girls he was raping? If he knew she was 15 instead of 17, do you honestly believe that would have stopped him? Using the age of these young girls to hide behind indefensible acts is just disgusting.
      A lot of your questions sound very close to blaming the victims.

      • Erinn says:

        It’s gross that people don’t seem to understand that the age of consent doesn’t clear him. I will however argue that the term “pedoAndy” isn’t at all accurate either. If they were 14 instead of 17 it wouldn’t be accurate. They were not prepubescent.

      • Call_me_al says:

        I do also want to support the distinction between a sex offender (legal term of someone who has been convicted of a sex crime) versus sexual predator versus pedophile (medical term for someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent chikdren) versus hebophile (someone who is sexually attracted to pubescent and post-pubescent children).

    • Nic919 says:

      Actual lawyer here and you are all ignoring that the women were trafficked and therefore the age of consent is irrelevant. Please shut up with your victim blaming grotesque nonsense. Andrew victimized girls who were sex trafficked.

      • Tia says:

        I said above that I suspect it is Andrew’s crisis management team focussing on the ‘age of consent’ point – probably because they are still hoping it will all go away but are setting up the next defence, i.e. he had no idea these girls were trafficked and therefore did not commit a criminal offence.

        If he admits he had sex with her (or the videos are released) but no one can prove he knew she was trafficked, his reputation may be trashed but he will avoid criminal charges.

        I completely believe Virginia Giuffre was trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell to Prince Andrew – I suspect the issue is going to be whether Andrew knew this (and he’s arrogant enough he may genuinely not have known and thought she was just suddenly overcome with the desire to have sex with him).

    • osito says:

      @Jean and @Jinjie: You guys are correct that “pedophile” is the wrong term for Andrew. The term for adults who are sexually attracted to pubescent adolescents is “ephebophile.” So the phrase everyone should be repeating is, “Prince Andrew — the ephebophile — should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for having nonconsensual sex with minors who had been trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein, sometimes specially for the purpose of having said nonconsensual sex with the ephebophile Prince Andrew.”

      It’s a mouthful, but it makes the issues at hand *so much clearer*! Thank you for bringing it up! /s

      • Juls says:

        Great comment. Just replace “nonconsensual sex” with the word “rape” because there is no reason to soften rape. Its rape.

      • osito says:

        @Juls: You’re absolutely right. I was trying to highlight how any sexual interaction with any of the girls/young women trafficked by these criminals could not ever be consensual, regardless of their ages, levels of intoxication, or photos of them smiling, but the language seems dismissive of what the behavior was: sexual abuse, assault, and rape.

  19. duchess of hazard says:

    Welp, watch the Queen prorogue Parliament again.

  20. Ann says:

    This story was posted in reddit last night and so many of the comments were about her being of age for age of consent laws. It was mindboggling and disgusting. These young women were all trafficked sex slaves. Who cares if they were “legal”? I sware sometimes people are just too gross for words. I believe these women. Andrew needs to be brought down along with all the other scumbags involved.

    There was also a lot of deflection to Bill Clinton, which has been standard since the beginning of this nightmare. Republicans can’t seem to grasp that dems do not care about Clinton. If he is guilty (I totally think he is) than lock him up too. This is not a partisan issue no matter how much one side wants it to be.

    • ChillyWilly says:

      I agree. Clinton was the first President I was old enough to vote for and I am a STAUNCH Democrat, but if he raped children (and it certainly appears he did) he should rot in Hell with Trump.

  21. justwastingtime says:

    That picture is extra creepy given the way Maxwell is lurking in the background. Why isn’t she burning?

  22. MellyMel says:

    The respect I have for Virginia and the other women for continuing to speak out is so strong. I’m so angry on their behalf…I really hope the men who did this to them, Nasty Pedo Andrew included, go all the way down!

  23. Jaded says:

    I just read an article about Andrew and Epstein having a huge falling-out over Sarah Ferguson going public with her apology for taking money from Epstein without knowing about his predilection for young girls and jail time, and that she abhors the abuse of young women, etc. etc. Epstein went after Andrew and Sarah with lawyers, PR people, etc. It was an epic fight that went on for a long time with no resolution in the end. It just gets messier and messier. And where the heck is Ghislaine? Why hasn’t she been brought in for questioning?

  24. ChillyWilly says:

    “You’re going to meet a
    Prince today.” Ugh, so gross. How a woman can do this to teenage girls is beyond me. It’s just so awful. I hope Andrew pays for this but I won’t hold my breath.

  25. justwastingtime says:

    While Andrew may or may not be a pedophile, Epstein was trafficking girls as young as 14, remember the Thai girl that one of his “aged out” girls (can’t remember which one) was supposed to bring back to the states for Epstein? She kept the paperwork. Hope that the investigation uncovers which of Epstein’s “clients” she was intended for. And, as a mother and a human being, I hope that client fries.

    The accusers, Julie Brown of the Miami Herald and the paper are to be commended. When I first starting reading the stories last winter, I couldn’t believe what an injustice had been done to the victims. I sincerely hope that the NY investigation follows the money and goes after both the pedophiles and their enablers. People participated and many, many people enabled.

  26. Mumbles says:

    I believe her. And I hope Sarah Ferguson’s role and relationship with Epstein gets looked at more. She was borrowing money from Epstein. Of all the people she could borrow money from, she picks him? Maybe it wasn’t a loan so much as it was blackmail? She is a vile person too.

  27. aquarius64 says:

    Right on cue when there is bad news on Andrew the church pap stroll is on display. This time William is in the car with Granny along with Charles bring up the rear. Got to reassure the public the succession is in tact. I wouldn’t bank on William. If Russia has the goods on Andrew there is a good chance the Kremlin has proof William has been visiting the Rose garden.

    • Tia says:

      A consensual relationship with an adult woman on William’s part won’t affect the succession, particularly if Kate decides to ‘stand by her man’ which I think she will if this all comes to light.

      Diana (rightfully) kicking up an almighty fuss over Camilla blew over after Charles kept his head down for a few years so with a wife willing to help bury the story, William will have no problem

  28. Oliviajoy1995 says:

    What’s so disgusting is the commenters on the DM about this same story blame the women and said they were old enough to know better. No blame at all for Andrew. Yet Meghan Markle is the most disgusting person that has ever walked the earth. It’s so insane and gross.

  29. IamChristy says:

    I am troubled, shocked & disappointed to see that commenters have more to say in a post about what Meghan wore to a wedding v.s. This.

  30. celes says:

    I just have to say one thing – PLEASE stop reading articles printed by the Daily Mail – it is absolute poison and every time you click on a story they win. I appreciate how tempting it is but honestly your lives will be better without reading that crap.

  31. Call_me_al says:

    I’m still not even sure HE’s dead. No burial, no service???? No family vying for his billions? I just want to keep that doubt alive.

  32. Becks1 says:

    I believe her. God, the poor girl.

    I appreciate how Harper’s frames this story as well. They are clear that she was abused, that Andrew abused her, that it wasn’t sex but sexual abuse. I think that’s really important.

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