Prince William feels ‘compassion’ for the Sussexes, he’s spoken to Harry

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Can I just say? It’s remarkable – in a bad way – how the royals have twisted the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s words and their pain into something else entirely. Harry and Meghan are clearly tired of the bulls–t they’ve had to endure for the past year and when they simply say “yes, it’s been really difficult,” the Windsors then attack them for not keeping a stiff upper lip AND they gaslight the Sussexes as “fragile.” Prince William seems to be leading the gaslighting effort, and William wants people to know that he feels “compassion” for the Sussexes:

Prince William and Prince Harry have spoken to each other privately after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex bared their souls in an emotional ITV interview. Royal aides are said to have ‘concern’ about Harry and Meghan’s struggles, with William believed to be ‘worried’ about his brother who he feels is in a ‘fragile place’.

Last night, a source close to William told the Times: ‘It would be very difficult for anybody to watch that and not feel compassion for them. Whatever is going on is taking a personal toll on them. That, of course, would cause concern.’

It has also emerged that William and Harry have spoken to each other privately following the documentary, although it is not clear if William saw it in advance. Describing how William felt at seeing his younger brother clearly upset in the programme, a senior royal source said: ‘He is concerned, as anyone would be watching the documentary.’

Insiders told the BBC that William was ‘worried’ about his brother, hopes he is ‘all right’, and thinks the suggestion that Harry and Meghan want a six-week break from royal duties is probably a ‘good thing’ as they are in ‘a fragile place’. But royal sources scotched talk of William being ‘furious’ about the timing of the programme, which ITV began trailing toward the end of his own successful tour of Pakistan with his wife Kate.

One said: ‘Actually I just think there is a really deep sadness there. Things will never be the same again, clearly. ‘People will debate what he [Harry] said about their relationship, although the truth is, as he said, that they are on different paths and don’t see as much of each other as they used to. But that doesn’t stop [him] being concerned about his brother. I think it would be difficult for anyone to see a member of their family talking like that on camera.’

No one the Mail spoke to yesterday could confirm whether William saw the documentary in advance. A source in the Royal Household suggested the future king had been forced to sit at home and watch it on Sunday night along with the rest of the nation.

[From The Daily Mail]

The TL; DR version: William is sad that *someone* made his brother sad but oh well, William will be king and Harry won’t, cry about that, Ginger. That’s basically what it is. The fact that William is completely abdicating his partial responsibility for what HE has put his brother and sister-in-law through is unsurprising, but his insistence on gaslighting them publicly about all of this still shocks me. I am but a mere peasant American looking in on all of this, but it definitely feels like… William, the Queen, and the Prince of Wales are the ones mishandling all of this. But the royal reporters keep insisting that Harry and Meghan are the ones doing EVERYTHING wrong. There’s a real lack of self-awareness all around, basically.

Also: there’s always an undercurrent to all of the reporting about Meghan in the British tabloids, that she’s too “foreign,” too much of an “outsider.” It’s the strain of anti-Americanism, sure, but mostly it’s just otherizing a biracial woman The undercurrent takes many forms. Today’s form is to make a big deal about how Meghan is… still an American citizen. And she’ll likely be a dual citizen whenever her British citizenship comes through. People think Archie is a dual citizen too. The subtext is that IF everyone succeeds in bullying Meghan out of the UK, she can “just go back home” to America. That’s basically it.

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  1. jbyrdku says:

    At this point, I just don’t see how the relationship between the brothers will ever mend. How do you get over someone whose supposed to love you just constantly throwing you and the mother of your son under the bus like he has?

    • Zazu says:

      Agreed. The most glaring omission on William’s part, to my mind, is not having sources explicitly state “William agrees with Harry and Meghan that the tabloid press reporting on them has been unacceptable, consisting mostly of untruthful and baseless attacks.” To instead discuss compassion for some sort of “fragility” that came out of nowhere totally misses the point H&M are making. It sickeningly reminds me of what the royal family did to Diana- making her sound unstable and crazy – in order to try and contain her popularity. William taking part in this exercise is going to permanently damage his relationship to his brother.

      Side note- I really wish H&M had done these interviews at home in the UK, after leaving Africa, as part of a ‘let’s openly discuss our mental health’ for Heads Together. The struggles in Southern Africa are often life and death and it wasn’t a good context to discuss media bullying. What this couple is going through is unfair and cruel but not as much as HIV/AIDS or sexual assault or land mines.

      • Bookie says:

        Amen! ^^

      • Eeeeeeetrain says:

        Agree…the one thing I find odd about the clips shown from the doc (which I have DVR’d for tomorrow!) is the juxtaposition of them making a (perfectly valid) testimonial of how challenging the ‘press’ has been with impoverished, mostly POC welcoming them with wild screams and shows of support. Those optics in and of themselves aren’t the best.

    • Karma says:

      Karma is going to get William, Kate, Charles, Camilla and the Queen. It may not happen today but Kate has already started getting karma by being married to a man who obviously doesn’t love her or want to be with her. William’s karma is his jealousy of Harry. He’s jealous that Harry has actually found a wife that loves him. Harry is happy and thriving with his new family. Karma will probably hit the Queen, Charles and Camilla. You can’t mess with karma because it will get you every time.

  2. bonobochick says:

    RE: William… *Nicolas Cage laughing gif*

    BRF haven’t had anything to say the last few years about the media abuse and it took M & H directly speaking out for them to realize that BP, KP, and CH look bad in this. SMH

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    The only compassion William has is about how he is perceived in all of this and wants it known that the Sussex’s have mental health problems – William only care about making himself look good and averting any bad press they might get.

    • Silas says:

      So I guess William is done with talking about mental health? The way he’s handled this clearly shows that he doesn’t believe anything he’s saying as part of Heads Together and just joined in with what Harry amd Kate were focused on.

      Hurting someone and then gaslighting them about it is the opposite of caring about mental health and people who have had to deal with it can see what he’s doing.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He’s also have to stop promoting anti-bullying campaigns and stop talking about being “bored” with racism.

      • My3cents says:

        At this point William being the face of mental health is like having Andrew be the face of sexual assault survivors.

  4. TheHeat says:

    I am growing quite weary of the new trend of taking anything posted by the Daily Mail as actual, factual journalism. I really wish it would stop.

    • Kittycat says:

      This was reported in different outlets not just the daily fail.

    • Piptopher says:

      this appeared in the BBC, which is publicly funded and typically quite reliable and fairly unbiased. So.

      • emerson says:

        In the words of Jay-Z, ” You (the BRF) need more people”.
        My parents’ reside in a Trump county, inside of a Trump state (neither are part of the Orange Brigade). But even these people were like, “the only reason they hate her is because she’s pretty, hardworking, black and American”.
        P.S. I LOVE LOVE LOVE how Keir Simmons keeps the British in check via television or twitter. He deserves an interview with Harry & Meghan, soon.

      • A says:

        The BBC might be publicly funded, but they’re not unbiased lmao. They’ve received plenty of criticism for their coverage of Brexit.

      • Nahema says:

        The BBC are very biased in their coverage and are supporters of the Royals in general.

        I think that the anti-American sentiment is undeniable too among royalty and aristocracy.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Ironic, Nahema, given how many British aristocrats (200+ aristo families) have those American dollar princesses in their ancestry. Diana’s family included.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @emerson I think if the British Press hadn’t decided to be xenophobic and anti-American wrt Meghan along with being racist, what you described might not have been happening.

        Everyone always talks about the “Special Relationship” the US and UK supposedly have, but really. Many Brits have this snotty/snobbish attitude when it comes to America and Americans, and Americans see it and have little use or patience for it. Meghan has AMERICAN on the other side of that hyphen of Biracial/African/Black when it comes to her heritage. And she is STILL a US citizen.

        And this isn’t a right-left political thing when it comes to it in the US either. I remember back in 2008 when Obama was first elected and their were many right-wing politics who were saying that Europe (usually meaning England) were way more racist than the US. People who would go on to prop up the Tea Party were say this stuff. So honestly, even right-wing types here in the US has always had little use for British people being so snobby and (not at all subtly) anti-American.

  5. Beli says:

    This is William very carefully avoiding blaming the press in any way.

    If he did, he might get some blowback from the media and he can’t have that.

    So instead of acknowledging that his brother and sister-in-law have been bullied relentlessly for years, it’s all about preserving his own image.

    • Erinn says:

      I think there’s a lot of people in the BRF who’s best interest is served by keeping quiet. With phone hackings and other dirty tactics, tabloid media probably has a lot of dirt on… pretty much everyone.

      I honestly think that’s a good deal of why you don’t see anyone rushing to their defense. I don’t think it’s necessarily them all sitting back wringing their hands and plotting against the couple. But I think there’s a lot of panic behind the scenes, and everyone is scrambling to save their own hide first and foremost. They’re probably worried about what H&M’s lawsuits could open up for them.

      And that’s not right of them – saying nothing is still absolutely terrible. But I tend to think there’s a lot of potential blackmail opportunities out there keeping them from really doing anything to rock the boat.

      • Rogue says:

        I agree with you Erinn. I feel like I’ve read comment that Murdoch has a lot of royal family dirt but is waiting for the Queen to pass away before it gets out.

        To be fair to Charles and William as future monarchs especially one with low poll numbers they would need press on side for PR for the monarchy. So can see why they wouldn’t want to be seen as overtly supporting this press battle. But obviously throwing family under the bus us another matter

      • Erinn says:

        And that’s just it. It’s cowardly af… but at the same time, I can imagine they feel like they’ve got their hands tied in a lot of ways, and they’re probably ‘afraid’ of what could happen knowing they are going to be the focus of the press for the rest of their lives. It doesn’t make them pure evil, but it certainly doesn’t make them brave. And I think probably, Harry feels like if he were in their position HE would support family that needed it – which is probably mostly true… but it’s hard to say for sure if he’d been raised as the heir. It’s kind of a sad situation all around.

      • A says:

        There is a huge fear in people when it comes to going up against the British tabloids. Whether its politicians or members of the royal family, they’re all scared stiff of opposing the tabs in anyway. It’s the big reason why they’ve got so much leave to behave as they do–no one stands up to them or holds them accountable.

      • Bella DuPont says:

        @ Rogue

        Murdoch is a joke. A living, breathing Mr Burns. I bet he dies before the Queen. Well…..given evil people tend to live long, fulfilled live, he’ll probably live another 20 years or so. The only person he won’t outlive if the f-cking Queen of England who will most likely die at 130 years old at this rate.

      • Silas says:

        @Erinn. You’ve been someone who has given William and Kate the benefit of the doubt more often than most here so to see you calling William’s behavior cowardly af is genuinely interesting to me with no snark intended whatsoever.

        I don’t know how many people are going to be on board with Harry and Meghan being thrown under the bus to protect the rest of the BRF. It’s going to be Diana 2.0 and I do think some of this mud is going to splash back on William.

      • morrigan01 says:

        @Erinn you just said something I said in another post wrt why The Queen and Charles haven’t said anything either. This stuff from all of them feels very “self preservation’. Yes, it’s been said before that Murdoch has dirt on the Royals that he’s going to unload after The Queen dies, and I tend to believe it.

        If the affair with Rose stories wrt WIlliam are true, then William clearly has a reason to collab with the press for reasons more than jealousy (which I’m sure is part of it as well). And who knows the stuff they may have on Charles or even other members of the family that The Queen doesn’t want out there. The fact the Andrew pedophile stuff IS out there frankly, IMO, has more to do with the American press (and FBI) not giving a shit that Andrew is a prince and that Epstein was an American citizen being held by US authorities and such. The way he died also upped the focus on the people he hung out with, specifically Andrew because of that picture of them together in Central Park. But before now, it and Andrew’s connection to Epstein was tampered down on, with the Queen giving him some medal or something to deflect attention.

        (FYI: the right-wing politicos and press in the US has the dirt on Epstein years ago – back before 2008! – and were going to use it against Hillary – because of Bill being a part of that set – back then, but it all got jettisoned when Obama beat her for the nomination in 2008.)

        Anyway yeah, from William, to Charles to the Queen herself they make faustian deals with the press for self-preservation reasons more than anything. Even with the jealousy, William was never going to stick his neck out for his brother over his own self-preservation.

      • blue36 says:

        I have to wonder, how bad is this information that they are willing to be put down by the press, and why is he waiting till the queen passes for all this to be released? Part of me wishes someone would go undercover at these tabs and reveal how these people work, wouldn’t that be something.

  6. Pineapple says:

    Oh, I have another comment. This family sucks as much as anyone’s does. Where is the Royal Psychologist when you need her?

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Inter-generational dysfunction that goes back centuries. That family has always been seriously fucked up.

  7. k says:

    I hope M and H just put their heads down and focus on each other and their work. You can never win with toxic people or a toxic press. I hope they will continue to take comfort in each other and let go what they can’t control. I live close to my family, and they can be toxic drama queens, too. My hubs and I manage to keep our little bubble of serenity in the midst of it.

    • Toot says:

      I think that’s what they’re trying to do. Harry was at an engagement the next day after the doc aired, and Meghan will be at the One World conference today.

    • MrsBanjo says:

      Do you have the press hounding you and your friends constantly? Do you have people flying across oceans to assault you because they didn’t believe you were pregnant and wanted to prove it?

      They can’t simply ignore it and work. That’s what they’ve been doing up to this point and it just got worse. Meghan was on maternity leave and they amped up their attacks.

    • k says:

      My comment was not meant as a criticism. I’m just saying I feel for them and I hope they can take comfort in each other and weather the BS together as a loving team.
      And, yes, I am constantly hounded by the paparazzi because I am very glamorous and highly interesting. jk.

  8. Sofia says:

    Cambridge PR is reminding me of the Marc Bolland years. Doing anything and everything to stay in good graces.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yup. Yesterday Camilla Tominey said that Meghan should give her her phone number and noted that Kate did so. You must wonder how many other reporters have such direct access to the Cambridges….

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        And Camilla is only confirming who their ‘royal sources’ are with that statement.

      • Sofia says:

        @BD: The whole “I’m so worried for him/them” was Charles at Harry during those years. The gaslighting, the throwing people under buses. For a man who reportedly wants to be nothing like his father, he sure is him in many ways

        And Kate giving her number just shows to me she’s not as innocent as people (including myself) thinks she is. She knows what her husband’s doing and is happy to go along with it.

      • Rogue says:

        Yes @digitalunicorn I think there was a twitter thread where some female royal reporters were talking about doing lunch with Kate & also how they met them prior to the formal engagement announcement so saw her with Diana’s ring and how exciting that day was. Very cosy.

        Rebecca English said sadly that didn’t happen with Meghan. Who knows what could have been if they hadn’t peddled the Markles, the straight out of Compton, Harry’s gone to the dark side, she’s a pornstar stuff from the start but I suppose they never thought he would be serous about her so that coverage wouldn’t matter.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Was Nicholl one of those? She and Tanna were the go-tos for Kate and the Middletons in the dating years.

      • PrincessK says:

        Please give us the link to where Tominey said that…..confirms everything!

  9. Lizzie says:

    the only thing fragile are those 10 hairs on william’s dome

    • babsjohnson says:


    • Diana says:

      Laughing literal tears!!!! Omg!!!! *breathes*

    • Sid says:

      LMAO!!!! I love you.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “A source in the Royal Household suggested the future king had been forced to sit at home and watch it on Sunday night along with the rest of the nation.”

      i have a question: who forced William to watch the documentary and how was William Forced to watch the documentary? Did QEII’s soldiers arrest him and tie him to chair in front of the tellyvision with eyelids taped open?

      • Lady D says:

        …and what makes him think he is so important he gets to watch TV shows before the masses?

      • Amy Too says:

        How incredibly disrespectful and gauche of Meghan, Harry, and ITV to just ASSUME that William would be able to hang out in his OWN HOME and watch television on a Sunday night when they know that he usually spends his Sunday nights…. in his own home watching television?!

        That was seriously bizarre wording in the article. Trying to make it seem like some horrific slight against William that he WAS FORCED to spend a Sunday night at home watching TV. Like maybe if they had scheduled the documentary to run on William’s birthday in the middle of his big, formal birthday bash, and the only place that was airing the documentary was a movie theater in Peru, and everyone had to stop in the middle of singing “Happy Birthday” to hop on a plane in their formal wear so they could go see the documentary. Maybe then it could be written up like the timing was some kind of personal attack.

      • L4frimaire says:

        What a comical statement. Forced to watch it? He could have watched golf or porn if he wanted to. He watched it to take notes because he wanted to see how bad it would make him and the rest of the Royals look, and whether it would make his brother and SIL look sympathetic. By the way the camera really does love Meghan. She looks so good, even when upset.

    • starryfish29 says:

      Not a single lie told. Honestly, he ended up with the looks to match his nasty personality.

      • tmbg says:

        Honestly I always thought he resembled a My Little Pony, even as a young man. I never understood the fuss over his supposed handsomeness. 🤷🏼‍♀️

      • BayTampaBay says:

        In Bill Cambridges younger days, his looks reminded most people (including me) of his mother.

    • Karmak says:

      Made my day.😊

    • bamaborn says:

      Lizzie…no you didn’t go there. Lol!

      • Lizzie says:

        i went and i’ll go back LOL! he looks like a crybaby who’s ass hurts because his brother is younger, more popular, has a better head of hair and a hotter wife. i’ve met a million of them and being royal doesn’t exempt you from being a jealous little snot. he’s shown himself and its ugly.

    • Bella DuPont says:


      Nothing tastes as good as a nice, deeply bitchy comment to a subject who richly deserves it. Best burn ever. 😂👍

    • Keeks says:

      love this comment. love it. get him where it really hurts.

    • Olenna says:

      Ha! Two thumbs up, Lizzie!

  10. Alex Jones says:

    Shouldn’t William be concerned, worried and have compassion for them months ago? I didn’t need an ITV special to know they’re suffering, so he definitely shouldn’t need one.

    • Jen says:

      Yeah, William is confirming the rift way more with this statement than Harry’s statement did!

    • India Rose says:

      Yes! And what’s ironic is how much the wording of these statements lack compassion. William is “concerned as anyone” would be watching the documentary? It would be “difficult for anybody” to watch and not feel compassion? Those aren’t words used between family members who genuinely care about each other. William feels the same way “anyone” or “anybody” would? How very generic of him.

      And really, f— the word “fragile”. It’s so demeaning. People are allowed to talk about difficult emotions without being seen as weak. Unless their brother, the future king, tries to spin it that way.

  11. Aidevee says:

    The more I see of this, the more it reminds me of my own time at St. Andrews while kate and Will were there.

    I had a fabulous time, don’t get me wrong- but these people pole stick to their own and it never occurs to them to voluntarily hoi-polloi with normal people. What you see here with Meghan is what posh people here do to normal people when they get too close- they shun, other-ise and then take no responsibility whatsoever when they are called out for it. Staffers and RR are even worse- those Men in Grey Suits are suckers for convention and do not take novelty well.

    Poor Meghan- at least her and Harry have each other and their beautiful baby. What a thing to have these monsters for a family.

    • Kimble says:

      This is so true. I think British society, especially the upper class, is very difficult for non- British to understand. Meghan will never be accepted.

  12. Kittycat says:

    Honestly prince William reminds me of my sister.

    The piece of crap has gone out of her way to trash me and then says shes worried about me.

    Like stop trashing me and I will be just fine.

    • Vava says:

      Sounds awful! How do you cope with that?

      • Kittycat says:

        I have cut her out of my life.

        Unfortunately, when people show you who they are believe them.

        I have text messages and emails as proof of her emotional abuse.

      • Vava says:

        Especially difficult when it’s a family member, for sure. Makes a person really appreciate those in our lives who are good people!!

    • Jessica says:

      Yep, this is my sister and mother too. They love to do the whole “you’re praying for you” while throwing me under the bus. They love to have me around to make themselves feel better except when things are going well for me of course. I was not at all surprised that this rift happened after Harry got married to a wonderful woman and started really coming into his own. His family, esp his brother, wanted him to remain the slightly screwed up, alone, joking non threatening Harry. When he became happy and successful, well that wasn’t going to be ok with them.

    • Keeks says:

      I’m the same. Two very toxic gaslighting sisters who don’t stop with their “me me me” attitude. I am so over it. I’m sorry for you because it sucks. I see people who love their sisters and support each other and I wonder about it all and feel sad, but I have tried and the longer things go, the worse they seem.

    • Snazzy says:

      yup, it’s my mom and sister too. Just working at cutting them out of my life. It’s hard, but I know I’ll be better for it in the long run

  13. Sassy says:

    He worried now but wasn’t when Meghan was pregnant with his nephew and was getting attacked for everything she did or wore?

    • BayTampaBay says:

      What Meghan wore is fair game but everything else is not fair game.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Yes and no. I think analyzing the fashion is fine, but every time she wears something, even things she’s owned for years, they tally up the price, usually inflated, with the implication that she’s spending taxpayers money and going crazy. They don’t do it with the other women or if they List prices, they praise them on their thriftiness if it’s not expensive or barely comment on it if is, walking it bespoke.

    • PrincessK says:

      Hmmm….people close to William say that his politics are more right wing than centre.

  14. Margareth says:

    OMG he’s so false. I can’t stand William anymore.

  15. Mar says:

    Every headline seems so a strategic.

  16. Loretta says:

    And William speaks about menthal health? This is an awful look for him.

  17. Vava says:

    You know there is a problem when the people over at Royal Dish start adoring William and Kate. Racism is deep on that forum, they hate Megan.

  18. Becks1 says:

    I’m laughing at the part about how the future king had to sit home and watch the documentary with the rest of the nation. Poor William! Woe is William!!!!

    I do think this info is coming directly from KP and the reason I think that is because it’s so inept. William was so worried after seeing the documentary that he called Harry!!! He had no clue how upset Harry was until that documentary!!! He thought things were great for Harry but now he realizes they’re not so he called him.

    Someone definitely thinks this is going to make William look better and it really doesn’t.

    • starryfish29 says:

      He really seems to think that tearing Harry down makes him look good, and while it might benefit him right now there’s no way it benefits him in the long term. The worst thing that could ever happen to his lazy a** is Harry deciding that he’s had enough, packing up his family, and giving the whole lot of them the finger.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “A source in the Royal Household suggested the future king had been forced to sit at home and watch it on Sunday night along with the rest of the nation.”

      See my comment above. Who forced William and why? This makes no sense at all. If the above statement is true why would William want it known.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Bay – right?? Its so weird. It makes it sound like William expected to see it before it aired but wasn’t able to do that. the line about “being forced” is just bizarre lol.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Because he would rather have been gathering Rose bushes instead of watching ITV?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Becks1 and nota, I am sure the BRF has TiVo, On’Demand capability or an old VHS recorder laying around. William could have watched this whenever he wanted to watch it.

        Everything about this story is just plain old BIZARRE.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It kinda sounds like an inept and roundabout way of saying that William was blindsided by the content. That he hadn’t been given a head’s up by Harry that they gave interviews about this particular issue. He was cut out of the loop.

    • A says:

      Oh god, this reminded me of a really funny Kids in the Hall skit where the Queen is yelling about how she found out that Canada wants to abandon the monarchy from a “a filthy newspaper like a commoner. It’s HUMILIATING.”

    • Lorelei says:

      It never ceases to amaze me that the Cambridges are in the position to hire the best of the best for their PR team, and this is what they chose. That idiot Jason, who is about as strategic as William. It’s almost funny, how much they give themselves away by being incompetent. It actually reminds me of how we know about so many of Trump’s crimes because he and the people he surrounds himself with are all utter morons.

      • The Hench says:

        I suspect that the best in the PR world wouldn’t just do what William told them to and that won’t do at all. William is not only the future king but a PR genius in his own right and must be obeyed at all times…

  19. Chrissy says:

    What a condescending twat he is. Unfortunately, the Sussexes are finally seeing his family’s true colours. What a viper’s nest these people are. I hope the lawsuits expose everything!

  20. janey says:

    He can take his compassion and f*ck right off.

  21. TheOriginalMia says:

    William is an opportunist slug. He may think this makes him look compassionate, but that ship sailed long ago. When he and Kate pulled their budget flight crap, they added more fuel to the fire. They helped to make things worse for the Sussexes. They weren’t trying to help Harry and Meghan. They were trying to score points off their misery. Coming out now with this BS is proof positive, William is a crappy brother who will throw anybody under the bus.

    • Coffee says:

      werent the photogs arranged for by the airline?

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        The Cambridges were clearly in on it. Last minute tickets. Access to the tarmac. No embargo on the photos of the kids. William knew what was happening and allowed it to happen because he wanted the good press. He and his family had done the exact same number of private flights, but weren’t called out on it like the Sussexes.

    • February Pisces says:

      It’s not just the airline pics, the aggression toward meghans vogue issue was clearly bought and paid for. Dan wootton was one of the worst culprits, everytime his hypocrisy was highlighted, he would change his reason as to why he was mad. He then said in a podcast that KP gave him the OK to trash her. The vogue outrage was orchestrated because Kate’s cover didn’t sell as well as hoped according to its editor. Therefore creating outrage over meghans issue gives it the illusion that it’s somewhat a failure even though it sold out everywhere and copies were on sale on eBay.

      Also Meghan going to Wimbledon, the outrage over her security stoping someone taking her picture, overshadowed the fact that the Cambridge’s security ran over an old lady during an engagement leaving her critical.

      Then there’s the private jet outrage, just in time to over throw Harry’s ecofriendly air travel project that was 2 years in the works.

      Tatler magazine named Meghan their number 1 social climber, a magazine that is edited by a close personal friend of William and Kate who went to uni with them.

      Camilla T who called Meghan a ‘terrorist’ due to the grenfell cookbook was invited to Pippa Middletons wedding.

      The list goes on and on to…

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “called Meghan a ‘terrorist’ due to the Grenfell cookbook”


      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, a column about how (she believed, faked, lied) Meghan was helping to fund Islamic terrorist orgs with the Grenfell cookbook.

        It was a different writer, at the Fail, who accused her of causing drought, famine, and war because of her love of avocado on toast.

      • A says:

        The next Daily Fail headline is gonna, “Meghan brings about the apocalypse by being all four horsemen, AT ONCE.”

  22. TIFFANY says:

    So instead of BP, CH and KP having their spokespeople put out a statement saying we heard you H&M, we don’t approve and will help in anyway we can , they decide this is better.

    Okay then.

    • Elisa says:

      Right? At least William is saying sth (even if it’s not much). Where are the statements by TQ and PC?

  23. Onerous says:

    I particularly loved this line “whatever is going on…”

    Um… you know full well what’s upsetting them. It’s not some mystery! That makes it sound like it’s this private turmoil and no one knows what’s causing it. Ffs.

  24. Sid says:

    He is a nasty piece of work. Once again, why is it that he jumped into talking about racism in football, but has been mute when it comes to the racism his sister-in-law is dealing with? And do not give me that “Never complain, never explain” bs because all these people do those very things in a roundabout way via the press. They can issue a statement denying botox but can’t find a quiet but public way to be supportive of Meghan?

    • Piptopher says:


    • notasugarhere says:

      W&K trotted their family out for obvious PR exercise at a football match, a match where fans of his team repeatedly screamed racist chants. W&K chose to stay for the match, rather than make a point of walking out and later saying something about why. Tells us what we need to know about them.

    • Taryn says:

      Because he’s in the back pocket of the press, they all are. If they publicly came out in support of H&M and actually wanted to be supportive and condemn the press like they should they could have a looooong time ago. We all know when the BRF wants a story buried it gets buried. They know the second they utter a word that doesn’t sound like its patronizingly “out of concern for harry” the press will destroy Andrew (mummy’s golden boy) and get to digging in the Rose bush every day. They are all using the bullying to their advantage. H&M have nothing to hide or stay in their good graces over, they’ve done nothing wrong which is why they are free to crucify them whenever and however they want but it’s exactly why H&M are choosing to speak out.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Tin Foil Tiara Time: I am beginning to think the harassment of the Sussexes is price agreed to and being paid by the BRF to keep a tight lid on the pedo Andy stories. I hope I am very wrong.

      • Elisa says:

        100% agree with you, BayTampaBay. And it’s authorized by the Queen herself, and PC and the rest are playing along. Letting William make such random statements is just another way of distracting from the real issues.

      • Becks1 says:

        @bay – I think you are right. Well, I think its a combination of Andrew and Rose Hanbury. Like I said yesterday, its very interesting that Will and Kate suddenly started playing ball with the press and all of a sudden are considered to be very friendly towards the press. That’s a far cry from what has been said about them in the past. there was a deal struck IMO.

      • Taryn says:

        @bay agree with you as well. Theres probably some kind of unspoken agreement that the sussexes are fair game as long as Will and Andrew are kept out of the press. Very telling as well that the press are suddenly now singing the praises of their relationship with the cams as a response to meghan and harry speaking out.

  25. starryfish29 says:

    It becomes more and more obvious each day that William is a giant douche. I genuinely feel sorry for Harry that he ended up with him for a brother. That whole family is garbage.

  26. S808 says:

    He, Charles and that old bat are pieces of shit. I sincerely hope harry and Meghan found a way outta there and let them fight amongst themselves. I really want them to have to answer as to why they drove out 2 of the most popular royals.

  27. J ferber says:

    Agree w commenters. Insincere p.r. move. Yes, he is his father’s son and Harry is his mother’s son. William is really an asshole is basically what i got out of this story. And Harry’s dad and grandma are selfish and uncaring. A dysfunctional family on a royal level. They should be ashamed.

  28. Jodi says:

    i’m sorry but i call bullsh*t. He’s so patronizing. this is classic toxic family behavior. looking “down” on people in the family raising a problem, voicing their emotions, going against the grain of the family rules (spoken or unspoken), pushing back. this is gaslighting and an attempt to make them seem smaller and weaker. this family gets worse every day. its’ atrocious. he has all the power in his hands to make this better by aligning with them, discouraging the bad press etc. he’s done nothing but the opposite. actions speak louder than words!

    what i don’t understand is that William has allowed his ego to drive when they couldv’e been such a powerful foursome. they could’ve joined together and worked in their areas of interests and been a powerhouse of a team. and instead, this family has shown their true colors and chosen ego, ignorance, pettiness and bullying instead. this Royal family is cancelled. i hope Harry and Meghan stay strong. They deserve better than this.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I do not think this about Bill Cambridge’s ego. I think this is about keeping the lid on the cultivation of the Norfolk Rose and pedo Andy. Nothing else makes sense to me.

    • notasugarhere says:

      William and his ego are well-known. He wants the spotlight and attention without doing the work, and throwing people under the bus to make himself look better is a common tactic of his. Worst traits of Charles and Diana.

  29. Belinda says:

    You know what that just reminded me of? Back in school … when a kid didn’t like another kid and started shouting “JUST GO AWAY!!!! JUST GO AWAY!!!! JUST GO AWAY!!!!”

    That what this is – William and the rest of the RF just want “it” to go away. Be it an American who married into the family. Or the brother who seems to connect to people much easier than the moody heir to the throne …

  30. Silas says:

    So William is leaking to the press and Camilla Tomminey has Kate’s phone number so can we please finally bury Never Complain.Never Explain.

    • Lorelei says:

      I would love to never hear or read “Never complain, never explain” ever again, for the rest of my life. It’s such disingenuous nonsense.

    • undergalaxy says:

      I went and looked up Camilla T and lo and behold, another social climbing brunette with bad veneers and worse eyebrows.

      It’s like they clone them.

  31. BC says:

    Ugh. I hate him so much! He is a disappointment and im sure his momma would agree. Harry has always stood up for his brother and for his brother to have been the cause of his misery then continue adding fuel to the fire by faking this caring attitude is just so disappointing. Hes just throwing stones and hiding his hands and trust, it will be his karma to deal with.

    I keep thinking what if Harry and Meghan ditched this family then the Queen dies , and the Commonwealth and British pple decide to do away with this stupid monarchy, what then will Will and Kate have been fighting for? Currently, they refuse to address the press and want Meg and Harry to suffer on their own but the funny thing is, ignoring a bully sometimes serves to embolden them, so eventually , if Harry and Meg leave or when the press gets bored of them, theyre still going to come back to Will, his affairs, his laziness and his kids who will have grown up …so it defeats the purpose to assume that one persons problems will not be yours tomorrow. Does he know who his kids will date? The world is becoming more racially integrated by the minute that soon, multi racial people may truly be the norm. He shld be careful the example he is setting.

    Even though it would appear like giving in to the bullies, i think there is nothing wrong with choosing your mental health over some wealthy title and for Meg and Harry to retire to a far away remote land (Hawaii! Thanks Obama ) and just live simply. They could be engaging with people they love (The Obamas) and getting speaking engagements (Angelina is thriving as a UN ambassador, Meghan could too) and just raise three kids quietly and never have to see this snobbish crowd of “royalties”. Im imagining a dinner date of the Clooneys, Idris Elba, Serena, the Carters, the Obamas and whoever Harrys friends are, over in Hawaii, far away from this madness.

    • Lady D says:

      He doesn’t seem to understand that in 12 or so years, the press will be doing to his daughter as the spare, what they are currently doing to Harry. If he cares about his daughter, he should be fighting the press with Harry. What William will probably do is throw his own son under a bus just like daddy did to him. I have the utmost faith that William will do that to his son.

  32. RoyalBlue says:

    Pants on fire

  33. Deedee says:

    Normal Bill has always been this way. Go back in time and look at how he treated Kate while they were dating, how Harry got thrown under the bus whenever Bill had a misstep, and watch him faffing about with his part-time helicopter job when he should’ve been taking more responsibility and charity work off the hands of his elderly grandparents. He’s always wanted to just go out and party with his friends instead of acknowledging that he is someone gifted with vast wealth and is therefore, in a position to do tremendous good for others. His mother understood royal duty. He doesn’t.

  34. Lexa says:

    I mean, Harry has me a little concerned, too. I think this is a really complex situation and there’s likely a lot more happening behind he scenes on both fronts than we realize.

    This will probably not be a popular comment, but I wanted to give my take on the dueling narratives happening. Let me just start off by saying I hate everything that’s happening and do think Harry and Meghan have unfortunately walked themselves into a bit of a PR trap, even as they’re making the right points and trying to stand up for themselves.

    Will’s comment does feel like a bit of tit for tat given that Harry and Meghan basically said they’ve gotten no support from anyone and no one is checking in on them in a very public forum. The RF and the people working for it aren’t going to take a hit like that and do nothing. If you remove the humanity and compassion from the situation and look at it from a professional angle, this PR play of the family’s concern for Harry is the kind of move designed to back the Sussexes into a corner, because it turns the focus back onto Will and Harry’s deteriorated relationship (still a very emotional/powerful narrative even this many years after Diana’s death) and subtly implies to readers the role Meghan “must” have played in that. More than that, it reframes Harry’s press outburst as being driven by the struggles he’s going through, which he himself volunteered in the documentary. I know people think the courtiers have no idea what they’re doing, but I honestly think they made a ruthless but effective play to try to take back control the narrative, and now the overriding narrative will be how “fragile” they are and their own words will be used against them. The comments about the rift got the most play in the papers in the days after, not Meghan’s comments (though I think those got coverage when the clip was released), and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

    Harry and Meghan were pissed enough about it to brief CNN today to try to claim everyone working for the palaces are “inexperienced and afraid” (aligning with earlier stories about Meghan and Harry dismissing the staff as “kids” who don’t know what they’re doing, unfortunately) and trying to claim credit for singlehandedly modernizing the monarchy. I think that’s the wrong counter on their part, because (however true!) it plays into the ongoing narratives that they’re not in a good place emotionally/mentally.

    Basically, I’m glad the Sussexes will be taking a break to recalibrate and recharge. I think they’ll bounce back stronger than ever, but woof is this PR duel getting nasty.

    • Lexa says:

      Just want to add the exact line from the CNN piece: “the institution around the British royal family is full of people afraid of and inexperienced at how to best help harness and deploy the value of the royal couple who, [the source] said, have single-handedly modernized the monarchy.”

      • Rogue says:

        Hmm CNN’s report was updated to “clarify the story’s attribution” & Max had deleted a tweet about it so I find it suspect. It could well be from a well meaning but misplaced friend of theirs but i feel that line about how this “source” said H&M were “modernising the monarchy” was deliberate to keep the pile up going& to rile up the traditionalists. Its been very quiet on the Prince Andrew documentary front but sure this will be latched onto this and I think that’s the point.

        My cynicism is because you had ITV royal reporter immediately twist their words within minutes of the documentary airing. BBC reporter saying they are being divisive, they are emotional& are unhappy but no examination of what she said about reporting of false stories even though they’ve had a retraction from the Sun maybe 2 weeks ago. Then you had Palmer& others tweeting last week, the family especially William had washed their hands of Harry but now him and others are pushing the line of the family being supportive of them. So I don’t find any of them that trustworthy

      • A says:

        I find that quote to be 100% true. The BRF as an institution has always been fundamentally out of depth with so many things. They are just not prepared for the press intrusion, and so they’ve just stopped trying at all. And they have never been confronted with racism of any variety, and now there’s bucketloads of it. Of course they’re unprepared.

      • betsyh says:

        Yeah, I think the source “close to the Sussexes” is Kensington Palace. What friend of the Sussexes would make such an exaggerated, sure-to-aggravate statement: “single-handedly modernized the monarchy”?

      • Lexa says:

        @betsyh – They’ve doubled down on the quote with claims Harry is “stronger than ever” and they (essentially) have the RF/courtiers running scared, so I’m going to guess that it absolutely is a Sussex source.

      • betsyh says:

        But who is “they”? You should always be skeptical of claims when a source is uncredited. Like Meghan said, “When people are saying things that are just untrue, and have been told they’re untrue but they’re allowed to still say them, I don’t know anybody in the world that would feel like that’s OK.”

    • BayTampaBay says:

      @Lexa, What do you think the courtiers actually want in the long run?

      • Lexa says:

        @BayTampaBay IF all of this—and I mean IF—is coming from the RF and isn’t a coordinated media invention to get back at the Sussexes, I personally think think they want Meghan out and Harry back in the fold and they’re possibly trying to signal that to him through the media coverage. The extensive Will’s concern coverage which is selectively focused on Harry + the Richard Kay piece talking at length about how the family and friends are worried about a widening rift between them and how upsetting it is that he’s become alienated from his old support system all seem to be moving in an even more obvious “Meghan is at the root of every problem” direction. (To be slightly fair to the RF, even if they don’t really deserve it, I could see them feeling like they did try to offer support via advice that the Sussexes just didn’t deign to take, as has been reported a few times. But like I said before, I think the Sussexes wanted emotional support they were never going to get from the Firm.)

        Like I said, I suppose we can’t be sure that it’s not the narrative the media has decided on vs BP/CH/KP, because I think it’s in the media’s interest to portray them as thin-skinned, overly emotional, and unstable as they fight this out in the court of popular opinion. My guess is that they lean into the argument the Sussexes are too privileged to be victims and the friend/source’s well-meaning comment with be taken as proof of arrogance.

        But if it is coming from the palaces, I don’t think it’s going to work in the long run, because I’m almost positive Harry would leave the RF and side with Meghan in all of this, unless their marriage really deteriorates under the pressure.

      • Lexa says:

        Not sure if CB allows links to the site, but here is a preview of what I’m talking about:

        That’s obviously the RF’s side/argument. All blinds have to be taken with a maaaassive grain of salt, but I think BG might have a legit royal source because they’ve called a number of things correctly in the last two years. (Unlike CDAN claiming all of their royal blinds are coming from Meghan’s friends.) I think this is going to be the messaging around Meghan going forward—that she ruined his life, his mental health, and alienated him from the people who DO care about him. It’s pretty diabolical, imo, and I can only imagine what’s going to come out to “prove” it.

      • RoyalBlue says:

        @bay the courtiers aim to destroy the notion that the Sussexes are beloved superstars. They aim to discredit their character and write them in history as a flawed trope. No one must be, or must be perceived to be more popular than the future king. Everything they do is to protect the monarchy.

      • Lowrider says:

        Is blind gossip hacking their phones, is the Sussex home bugged??? How would they even know what is discussed in their private conversations ???!!?

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @Lexa, the Blind Gossip item was very enlightening. I have always felt that there is so much more to the Meghan-Harry story that we do not know and may never know.

      • notasugarhere says:

        That tripe (she’s ruining him, he’s fragile, his mental health, alienation) has been bandied about and claimed for three years on the hate forums and on tumblr. There’s no insider info in that blind.

      • Lexa says:

        @lowrider My guess is that this is coming from a friend who was cut out of the Sussexes’ life but is still somewhat close to Will or the Royal Family. Based on what Tom Sykes and a few others have reported, the old friend group absolutely blames Meghan for being cut out of his life and everything that’s happened since. I still think they’re the source of a lot of anti-Meghan dinner party gossip that was supposedly going around (per Sykes).

        I doubt the source actually heard any of this firsthand but if it’s not complete invention (which, obviously it could 1000% be, either on the source’s part or BG’s) it might have come up in conversation (“Meghan told me…” “Meghan feels that…”) or they noticed a change in his attitude toward his family that coincided with her entrance into his life and made some huge logic leaps. In any case, this person is clearly sympathetic to Harry because they’ve given him an “out” when it comes to taking responsibility for everything and dumped everything on Meghan like she’s Lady Macbeth.

        Like I said, maaaasssive grain of salt, but this is totally the move I was expecting from the RF/press once the first “fragile” conversations and headlines started, and I would expect more of it. I think the RF and courtiers are banking on the public’s loyalty and sympathy being more heavily invested in the image of “Diana’s boys” vs Harry and Meghan’s still relatively new love story and life together.

      • February Pisces says:

        @lexa I have stopped reading blind items because the exact same source that send them these stories are the same ones that send them into the British press. With blind items you can go all out and completly trash her. They called her all sorts via blind items. I’m not saying Meghan is a saint and has never put a foot wrong, or anything like that, but William clearly has ALL corners covered, including blind items, because it’s funny how there aren’t many about him. Plus these sites probably don’t get much income through advertising , so paying them off to write whatever you want seems to be how they make their dosh.

      • A says:

        I think the courtiers want a return to the status quo, which is that the RF and anyone who joins it follows their rules and doesn’t step outside of them and act too “uppity.” I think what really aggravates the courtiers is that they feel Meghan is too much change, too fast. These are a group of people who have a vested interest in preserving a certain tradition of royalty, as archaic and stultifying as it may be, and that tradition is pretty much the opposite of Meghan’s entire being and existence.

        I don’t think they want her to *leave* perse, although they wouldn’t be unhappy if she did leave. I think they want her to be more deferential, more sycophantic and awestruck–they want her to shrink herself, her capabilities, and meekly go along with the flow, and even then they want the leave to criticize her, because she will always be too much, too fast, by virtue of her existence as a biracial WOC in the atmosphere of the BRF.

      • Olenna says:

        ITA. They want to write them out of history. This is like a scene from The Last Kingdom TV show. The MC, a charismatic and heroic pagan, has sacrificed everything to help a righteous (and self-righteous) king secure and maintain in his kingdom. BUT, righteous king tells heroic pagan his name will never enter the chronicles of the kingdom, only the king’s will. Heroic pagan says men will remember his deeds; kings says those men will die and only the pages will remain as a testament to the king’s deeds. Here’s hoping Charles is the last monarch and FFK Willie goes down in the history books as his heir who never reigned.

    • Silas says:

      Unfortunately I think you’re right and this will probably be decided by the public. The BRF have chosen to stand with the press to protect their own public image and the Establishment supports that, and the Cambridges are still popular enough to veer support away from Harry and Meghan. And a large part of that is discrediting the Sussexes. This is Diana 2.0.

      Getting enough support to silence Thomas Markle is one thing but pulling that off again to silence the tabloid press despite the BRF supporting the press for their own reasons is going to be far more difficult.

      I think Harry and Meghan are doing really well but their message needs to be more precise. They can’t only work with Omid Scobie. If the want to snub the most openly racist reporters and those who enabled Thomas Markle, I think they can win that.

  35. Sunshine says:

    I think most people get what’s going on here. The royal family did the same to Diana, questioning her mental health. William is indeed one of them. At least now we have confirmation who has been behind all of this and we know how low he and his people will go.

  36. Ann says:

    Once the Queen and Charles die, the sun will set on the the British monarchy as it is now, in more ways than one. William and Kate just can’t carry the momentum in this 21st century media world, no matter how they try while throwing others under the bus. It will be interesting. Maybe Harry and Meghan will move to the US, where they will be media darlings and do more for British Ambassadorship than they could back in the UK.

  37. Prairiegirl says:

    This all reminds me of Princess Margaret who, in her day, was more popular than the Queen, had a dashing husband, adorable kids, interesting charities, and a comfortable life. The priority, however, is to protect the Line of Succession. Margaret ultimately ended up divorced, bitter, and borderline alcoholic. We’ll see it all in Seasons 3 and 4 of The Crown.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They didn’t know what to do with whip-smart Margaret in the 1950s, which was a detriment to all of them.

      Margaret chose not to marry Townsend. Papers released from the Archive show the Queen fought to have Margaret able to marry him. The Queen arranged that Margaret could keep her royal allowance, keep her taxpayer-funded home, and continue representing the Crown doing royal duties. She would have to give up her place in the succession for herself and any future children, but otherwise her life wasn’t going to change.

      She chose not to marry Townsend, which may have been something she always regretted, but that wasn’t courtiers or her sister out to destroy her.

    • February Pisces says:

      Yes the crown season 3 looks amazing. It’s funny there’s so much sibling rivalry in that family and it’s always the more important higher ranking sibling who feels jealous and insecure of their less important sibling. Queen/margarat , Charles/Andrew and William/harry.

  38. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    My favorite line: “He is concerned, as anyone would be watching the documentary.”

    So William is just as “concerned” for his brother as some stranger, who never met Harry, and who just happened to see this documentary on tv? THAT is as much compassion as William is capable of?

    For all the people who insist William is a “family man” who “loves his kids” and “loves his wife,” I hope they can see that royals like William and even the Queen, don’t really “love” their family. They believe they were chosen by God to be monarch, and everyone else is beneath them including other family members. You cannot “love” someone (even members of your own family) if you don’t respect them and aren’t capable of compassion. I don’t think anyone is born that way (unless they are psychopaths), but I think they way they are brought up makes them that way.

    As a side note, if anyone wants to see what bigotry can do to someone who marries into a royal family (racial for Meghan, misogyny for Japan), look at the mental health issues faced by the women who married into the Japan imperial family. That is tragic.

  39. Nibbi says:

    “Whatever is going on” … ?
    Like he doesn’t know? …

  40. heygingersnaps says:

    Lazy bill is one garbage human being, not to miss out on most of the brf who are complicit in all of this gas lighting, faux concern trolling towards the Sussexes.

  41. aquarius64 says:

    The only throne William deserves to sit on is one that flushes.

  42. Rogue says:

    Firstly was gonna say the angle focusing concern on Harry is not surprising. There are stats that people have less empathy for people of colour and the press etc clearly don’t see Meghan as human- part of the commoditisation Harry mentioned. I wondered if that was Meghan was speaking to when she said not many have asked how she is as focus seems to be on Harry even though it’s been largely her getting slammed. It was telling that no doctor was brought out to speak of concern for her health during her pregnancy and smear campaign whereas we did see one telling people to lay off heavily pregnant Rebecca Vardy during last weeks WAG dispute.

    In relation to the BG item – weren’t they recently claiming she had a fit cos of avocados not being available in the UK which anyone who lives in UK knows isn’t true? I tend to think blinds are from obsessed trolls or based on things already out there on blogs, SM etc & dressed up to look like insider knowledge. I remember one about Markle Snr& that his rants were money related which was pretty obvious seeing as Piers Morgan etc had said he was paid for his interviews.

    With this blind it’s already been in the press about Meghan banishing Harry’s friends, right after she apparently banned him from drinking tea. A royal reporter on SM was saying a few months ago that Chelsy and a BFF of his were upset not to go to the second wedding reception whereas Clooneys etc were. Maybe he doesn’t see friends as much for less dramatic reasons like they’re mid/late 30s adults with families now. The BFF mentioned above now lives in the states. Or if they were leaking that may be why he isn’t friends with some anymore? Who knows.

    The press have also already gone with the Meghan has seduced him, he’s enthralled by her trope so the mentally ill man in interracial relationship trope is an obvious next one- doesn’t even need to be palace strategy as press have been hinting at this for some time.

  43. Rogue says:

    Ps the quote saying Harry is stronger than ever is in the Sun- who Harry has filed a hacking lawsuit against. Hhmm not the obvious people to leak to.

    Remember last summer Meghan and Kate were close SILs and Kate was helping Meghan through the Markles drama and was her mentor. Then by winter they were feuding and there were quotes from “sources” that Meghan wasn’t Kate’s cup of tea etc? But then the press changed their mind and they were close again and bonding over babies?

    As ive said the only winners of this rift drama is the press so I can see sources being creatively deployed to whip up extra drama from a smidgen of truth.

  44. yinyang says:

    Harry has really won my respect over this whole thing. Diana would be proud. There are a lot of idiots calling him names like race traitor, just like they called Diana. There are people on all sides that are against interacial marriages, they say why don’t you just marry a nice___ girl/boy. Interacial couples are the future and a symbol of peace.

  45. Eeeeeeetrain says:

    Can we also give MM a slow clap for fully retaining her American accent. I find that impressive. (Cough…Madonna.)

  46. undergalaxy says:

    I read something really interesting, from The Times in March this year, where Kate is nicknamed “the vaporiser-in-chief”. The journalist, Camilla Long, points out that people keep quietly disappearing from royal stories, if they’ve done something to displease Kate, like talking too much about William. Guy Pelly, etc., people we never hear about any more, and Ben Fogle never mentioning William these days.

    And Long, in March, reckoned Meghan is going to undergo the same “vanishing”.

    This quote is extremely on the nose:

    “Meghan, of course, is the next person Kate will eliminate. It’s terribly unfortunate, obviously, that the duchess’s arrival on the scene has mysteriously coincided with so many negative stories leaking out about her dear sister-in-law.”

    I like that Meghan is refusing to disappear – and is becoming more visible.