Kristin Cavallari blindsided by Jay’s divorce filing, they still live in the same house

Kristin Cavallari and Jay Cutler in front of a Christmas tree. Jay is barefoot for some reason.
Earlier this week, Kristin Cavallari and Jay Cutler both posted the same flowery BS statement on Instagram that they were divorcing with “love and respect” for one another. That was not supported at all by their separate divorce filings, which had different separation dates. Kristin also cited “inappropriate marital conduct” by Jay as a reason for divorce. (According to experts cited in US and People, TN is a “fault state” so that could mean any number of things including adultery, drug use or abuse. It doesn’t have to be nefarious.) As Hecate pointed out yesterday, there’s a rumor that Jay is about to join CBS as a football commentator, which might motivate him to file quickly so Kristin doesn’t get her hands on that contract money. E!, the network that airs Kristin’s reality show, reports that Kristin was blindsided by Jay’s filing on Friday and thought that they were doing ok and working things out. They’re also living in the same house still, albeit in different areas.

“Things are very tense between Jay and Kristin right now,” explains the insider. “They are on opposite sides of the house and only communicate in regards to the children’s needs. They have barely spoken since the Bahamas trip. It’s really a power struggle between the two of them.”

Our source says Kristin was “blindsided” by Jay’s “urgent” divorce filing, adding, “She had hoped they could work things out more amicably and they were off to a good start before Jay pulled the trigger.”

Now, we’re told Kristin and Jay are gearing up for a custody battle regarding Camden, 7, and Jaxon, 5, and daughter Saylor, 4. Another source says the Uncommon James CEO is planning to fight for full custody because she “feels she can raise the kids in the safest environment.”

For now, Kristin and Jay are keeping their distance. Prior to their official split, which we now know was a long time coming, the source says they were separately splitting their time between the main home and other residences while the kids remained together.

“She’s very upset over all of this and is leaning on her close friends right now and focusing on her businesses. Kristin’s work is keeping her spirits up and she’s very proud of her accomplishments, something Jay never acknowledged,” the source notes.

[From E! Online]

If Kristin was blindsided, she either had an awesome lawyer to have filed on her behalf so quickly after Jay, or she already had something in the works and just pulled the trigger. Also, there’s the possibility that all of this has been amplified to draw attention to Kristin’s reality show and/or get her a fourth season. There’s always the question of what is real on a show like this and what they’re playing up for headlines. I believe that they want a divorce of course, but there’s a lot of back and forth to this and Kristin is surely loving the coverage.

Related stories in US and People say that Kristin and Jay have accused each other of cheating, that they are “stubborn” and “bump heads a lot” and that they have been talking divorce for a while but didn’t one to get one “because of the kids.”

Kristin wants full custody and Jay has requested joint custody. An insider tells People, “She feels she is able to provide the most stable environment for them. Kristin is strong and confident. She is also an amazing mom. If Jay wants to break their deal about keeping things amicable, she is not scared of fighting for what she wants for their kids.”

Also, many of you have pointed out that Kristin an anti-vaxxer. That might have put a strain on their marriage during a pandemic. I’m sick at the thought that there are people who are going to refuse the vaccine (fingers crossed it comes out soon) purely out of ignorance. People like Kristin put a vacant face on that and give those idiots legitimacy.

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  1. Gutterflower says:

    Since he will no longer have to appease his wife, can Jay take the kids and get them vaccinated now? How does that work? Or is he stupid as well?

    • Ali says:

      I’m sure he is stupid as well.

      He married her right?

    • Noki says:

      Yes how does it work? If one parent is an anti vaxxer do they sign something,do their kid wear some sort of medical bracelet to insure it never happens. This is not the same as going to one parents house and a child returning with their hair cut. Lol

      • S says:

        If non-married parents disagree about medical treatment of any kind for the child, it ends up in court. It’s common for custody decrees to stipulate who does, and does not, have the power to make medical decisions for their minor children. Just like how it’s often spelled out who can/can’t pick a child up from school. Divorce with small children is just depressing af.

    • Jess says:

      I’m in healthcare and I’ve seen situations where one parent will get a child vaccinated without the other knowing. One time a dad came in thinking his kid had chicken pox(like there was anything we could fkng do about it) and he was going off about how vaccines are poison and blah blah blah, I checked the state’s vaccination log and sure enough the kid was on there. The mom was the only parent listed. I didn’t tell him but I giggled to myself and gave her a mental high five, at least one parent had sense.

      • Sarah says:

        I took my infant to the doctor to confirm chicken pox and get medical advice about how to treat it. They told me to come in.

      • Jess says:

        Sarah, that’s completely different and understandable :) This dude was a total asshole and didn’t warn any of the other patients in an urgent care walk in lobby that he thought his child had chicken pox, we have young babies and immune suppressed patients that could’ve been exposed, and he came in looking for a quick treatment while complaining about how the medical community pushes poisonous vaccines, so he didn’t do any real research because he would’ve known there’s nothing we can to do to get rid of chicken pox, AND he came running to that same horrible medical community for help the second he thought his kid had something. So I just found it hilariously idiotic!

        I didn’t mean to imply going to the dr for chicken pox is wrong! Just for that guy:) I have multiple chicken pox scars on my face and stomach, I remember how awful it was and I don’t understand why anyone would risi putting their kid through it, even if it isn’t “that bad”.

    • manda says:

      Probably, since he is their parent and as of now they are married and as long as there isn’t an agreement in place about her being the only one to make medical decisions, then yes he probably could. I’m not sure how that would look in court later on, for either side.

  2. Mustlovedogs says:

    All I can see are his great big Hobbit feet in that first pic.

    • Mellie says:

      Why is he barefoot at a party and she’s all sandaled up?

      • Spicecake38 says:

        Wondered the same.

      • S says:

        Now I had to go back and look … Assume they’re in their own house, but it still an odd pic. Also, she’s wearing the exact same sandals in both pics, which seems strange for someone with that kind of cash, where Instagram pics are a big part of their livelihood.

      • Chelly says:

        She probably put them on for the pic to ‘complete the look’. Like Carrie Bradshaw said “it’s an outfit”. I’m sure she told him to put his on too & he was like no let’s just take the pic & she said fine. That’s my theory anyway

    • Grant says:

      At least it looks like he takes care of his feet. A lot of football players have some busted dogs!!!

    • JennDama says:

      Just a question, can children go to public school without having vacancies? I know that some peds clinics won’t see them.

      I have Multiple Sclerosis due to German Measles as a small child. I was vaccinated against regular measles but not against that strain. So it makes me heartbroken that parents would put their kids in that kind of danger!

      • justwastingtime says:

        In California, they can’t now unless they get a medical waiver from a doctor. Problem is that there are unethical doctors who will do it for the $. That being said, before that law went into place there were some private elementary schools in my former upscale LA neighborhood that had a 30% vaccination rate ( looking at you Waldorf schools). Which is so gross I can’t even go there and which is worse than South Sudan. Nothing like stupid privileged white people…. BTW Jenny McCarthy’s kid went to my child’s preschool ( before my child)…so there you go.

  3. Victoria says:

    Man this is boring. I was hoping because he got them vaccinated

  4. raptor says:

    Kristin is an antivaxx idiot, but if Jay has gone along with it, that’s agreement and he’s just as much to blame (until/unless he sees/has seen the light and takes appropriate action).

    • klutz says:

      agreed.

      I dont know a soul who pays attention to her or watches that show. she is like that girl who peaked in high school, is in denial about it, so spends the rest of their life trying to recapture that, whether it thru a reality show or some lame retail business or lifestyle junk or what have you. they also seem to never evolve their impression of themselves. they’re obsessed w/staying young looking (part of the ‘retaining the glory of high school days), like under 25…..and kirstin was never a stunner above the neck to begin w/, but in her mind she’s a supermodel. its increasingly desperate & sad.

      my theory? jay likely wised up &, well I speculate he told her he wanted a divorce AND went & vaccinated the kids behind her back (GOOD! its called CHILD WELFARE). to me, not vaccinating a child counts as child abuse. there are some curious inclusions regarding health insurance etc in kristin’s filing. I think she is desperate to be famous again at any cost (its sad cuz…..laguna beach or hills or whatever…that was almost 2 decades ago..,.get over it)

  5. Erinn says:

    I mean, I’m not sure you can say you’re being amicable and make threats about what you’ll do if your partner isn’t ALSO amicable WHILE demanding primary custody when the partner wants joint. Especially when there’s talk of a power struggle.

    Sounds to me like Kristin is the kind of person who expects everything to be on HER terms. Obviously I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors – but if you’re running a big PR campaign to say you’re so mature and reasonable about the divorce right after a big splashy (moronic) family vacation it’s pretty clear that keeping up appearances was her biggest interest in everything, and that’s super sad for the kids.

    Can you imagine living in that household right now with this supposed ‘power struggle’? I feel so bad for the kids.

    • Kebbie says:

      It sounds like she’s saying Jay requesting joint custody of their children is him not being amicable. She’s obviously a “my way or the highway” type, and I think she’s going to get a very rude awakening when this thing goes before a judge.

    • Bucky says:

      Seriously. “JuhAY! You blindsided me with this divorce, even though I signed legal documents claiming that I separated from you first!” “I want an amicable divorce from you as long as you agree to pay me child support. Also, you’ll only get to VISIT your kids rather than live with them. It’s inappropriate for you to be around them. Also also…we must still live together in one house while we have multiple other empty houses because it’s best for the kids.” Her PR person doesn’t even make sense.

  6. Rachel says:

    who cares about this boring couple. Who are they?

    • Harper says:

      Jay Cutler was the QB for the Chicago Bears for seven years and played in the NFL for eleven. He is not a warm and fuzzy guy and was not popular with the fans. His total NFL earnings are $122 million. They have zero money worries.

    • Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

      We are doing the best with the little gossip we have.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Lol. I barely know anything about Jay beyond him being a footballer, but Kristin’s quite familiar to me as someone who watched Laguna Beach (a popular MTV “scripted reality” show from the mid 2000s) in her teens. Kristin was also on The Hills (another MTV show in the late 2000s) at one point. She had a persona of being the mean girl and a cheater. She’s also known for her anti-vax idiocy.

    • Yup, Me says:

      I’m curious if he’s got a health issue going on. He doesn’t look good or well in the last several pics I’ve seen of him.

      • Jaded says:

        As in previous posts, several of us have mentioned that he has type 1 diabetes, and it’s “brittle” diabetes because even though he’s on insulin, his blood sugar levels vary to extremes. Mr. Jaded is type 1 and when his blood sugar crashes he looks like death warmed over. Plus going through an ugly break-up is stressful no matter how rich or famous you are. It will show.

    • Truthiness says:

      Both parties are so completely unlikeable that their divorce is the first interesting thing to happen to them since he was throwing interceptions for the Bears.

  7. Ali says:

    I would file for primary custody and feel I was being amicable. I’m the primary caregiver now and divorce isn’t going to change that. If she does all the heavy lifting and wants to keep it that way, that’s not necessarily her being disagreeable. Guys always say they want joint custody to a. Look like great dads whether or not they’ve done 50% of the work up until now and b. To reduce child support payments.

    • WingKingdom says:

      Yep. And then gradually they need to drop the kids off a few hours early, a day early, can’t pick them up until they finish this work project, etc etc. And mom is back to being primary caregiver, without adequate child support. This didn’t happen to me, but I’ve seen it happen over and over to friends.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Yep. My father is a gormless human being, but I’ll give him the credit that he paid his child support. Did pretty much absolutely nothing else and left the load to my mother, but that money was in my mother’s account monthly, never late, and he never fought the court order over it. It was as low as the bar can get, yet I know so many couples where the fathers didn’t even do that.

    • S says:

      Sadly, the latter is usually the real reason. Even in 2020, most of the divorced couples we know still follow the old “every-other-weekend dad” pattern. It’s sad, and gross, and just awful for the children. But, frankly, so is the 50/50 split. We knew one couple (co-workers of husband) whose divorce was so bitter, that they couldn’t even speak to one another without a mediator relying messages. It was that ugly. The kids split time 50/50, and weren’t allowed to take so much as a comb between the two houses, so each parent was required to have duplicates of everything at each household (soccer uniforms, etc.), to avoid “unnecessary contact.” They had to get someone in on a Sunday night once to negotiate getting schoolwork left at one house to another once. It was just horrific. As my husband was telling me this story, I was like, ‘Honestly, I think I’d just shoot you, or myself.’ And he was like, ‘Yeah, it might be better.’ (Caveat: I was definitely kidding, and we don’t own guns.)

      Those Kids are in high school now, and it’s eased A BIT, but the parents still don’t communicate with each other AT ALL, only through the kids. Real healthy set-up.

      • Amy says:

        That is the saddest story. Those poor kids!!!

        I am also totally against 50-50 its unfair to kids to have to keep moving because parents can’t make it work. If the parents want to constantly move then go for it but not the kids.

        Also whoever is the primary caregiver should be the one with primary custody.

        Know nothing about this situation just my general feeling.

      • schmootc says:

        I have a friend whose boyfriend/now-husband had this kind of relationship with his ex. At one point, I think he wasn’t even sure what her actual address was, I believe they were swapping the kid on neutral ground. It continued that way until the kid was old enough to make his feelings known and have the court listen and he had limited contact with his mom after that. Sadly, she seemed to have some mental issues.

      • HeyThere! says:

        S: I know many bitter, ugly divorces in my town. Only one as bad as that. It seems the more wealth a family has equals a nasty divorce(in my town). I hope parents who do this realize they only hurt the kids. When the kids are old enough to get married and have babies….the parents need to realize it’s not about them. The family I mentioned above has the worst engagement I could ever imagine lasting 1.5 years and the entire time it was a battle between parents. It was a nightmare. It 100% outshined the happy couple and it was exhausting to watch and hear about. Broke my heart.

        That said, I’m not at all shocked these two aren’t staying together. Two stubborn people don’t mix well. You HAVE to give. I would be devastated if my husband just blindsided me with a divorce but I think she will be fine. It will make for juicy drama on here. I see this getting UGLY!

    • Erinn says:

      This kind of thing always annoys me. I don’t understand why women keep having children with men who have zero interest in being a parent.

      On the flip side, we have friends who broke up with two kids. She was having a huge affair before the second kids first birthday. He’s had to call child services multiple times because the mother brought a pedophile around the kids. He’s been smeared constantly in their community because he moved there to be with her, and her family has been there for ages and they’re very cliquey. He said the other day he doesn’t care what his name means, what his reputation is, anything. At the end of the day he cares about keeping his kids safe and he’s not going to be deterred just because she’s lashing out. The guy grew up in the system and I suspect his childhood was pretty dark because of it – and he’s dead set on making sure none of that happens to his kids.

      There are just so many people who, at the end of the day, shouldn’t be mothers or fathers. And it’s a shame that so many people have kids just because that’s ‘what people do’.

      • tcbc says:

        And the men who have zero interest in being a parent who continue to get their wives pregnant instead of using condoms or having a vasectomy…

    • Jodi says:

      i think that replies like this are very upsetting. there are two parents and both parents have the rights to their kids. are there deadbeat dads out there? sure. but there are also, deadbeat moms who use their kids as pawns in divorces and try to limit the other parents access to their own children. in this case, kristin had babies with someone who had a lucrative QB career and stayed home but started building her business on the side. when he retired, she focused solely on her business. there’s footage of her saying repeatedly that its Jay that does the school runs and stays home with the kids for her to build her brand. so, primary custody is likely a reaction to being angry about the filing instead of what’s actually best for the kids. Dads continually get a bad rep and oftentimes assumptions about their involvement or lack of involvement create a nasty situation that is the opposite of doing what’s best for the kids.

    • Jodi says:

      as for the child support issue, let’s not pretend that that system isn’t completely broken. men get their lives financially ruined oftentimes with women using their kids as a way to get more money. it has nothing to do with what’s best for the kids. it’s to do with egos and entitlement and retaliation. there are extremes in every case on both sides. but let’s be real… if there are men out there trying to avoid parenting and child support…there are women out there using their kids to get every dime they can from the other parent with no justification other than anger and hurting someone’s life financially while also hurting their relationship with their own children. i have personal experience watching my ex deal with his ex wife who tried to turn their son against him and tried to ruin him financially and all he wanted was to be a dad. women aren’t exempt in the case of divorce. they act just as badly as men do.

      • S says:

        There is zero actual evidence that men “have their lives ruined” by child support, in fact the system is set-up so that can’t happen. The vast majority of women with or without children see a post-divorce decline in standard of living, while men, on the whole, see no change or an uptick in their standard. These aren’t my opinions, these are statistical facts.

        The idea that men are beggared by child support is simply not true. But what is accurate is that the group most likely to live at or below the poverty level in this country are single mothers with minor children in their care.

        None of that is going to be a problem in this case, for these rich people, but is he going to end up with less personal wealth after the divorce and a lifelong financial commitment to the family he created? Almost certainly. Is that unfair? No. No, it is not. And it doesn’t make his wife or the three children he chose to have with her gold-diggers out to get him.

        Weirdly, I have yet to meet a single divorced man, neither rich nor poor, or his new wife, who doesn’t think his ex is “soaking” him for child support. It’s gross. The courts have decided that old responsibilities come before new. Don’t like it? Wear a condom.

      • cbwinslo says:

        The statistics say you’re wrong:

        On average, custodial single parents who receive child support get about $287 per month to help with food, shelter, clothing, medical costs, education, and incidentals. Who’s getting rich off that? Who can adequately support a child on that? Among custodial single parents who were awarded child support in 2015, 30.7% received none of the child support money due.

        Take that MRA crap elsewhere. If you didn’t want to deal with ex-wives and child support, don’t marry a divorced dad.

    • Lindy says:

      That is completely what happened to me during my divorce. My ex wanted joint custody so he could avoid child support. He got it (against the guidance of the social worker and other experts) because he bled me to death financially with delays, pointless motions, and other tactics and I couldn’t go into debt any more, nor could I take any more days off work to go to court, only to be told that his lawyer filed for a delay for some made-up reason. I still owe money to lawyers from 2013 that I pay a little bit at a time.

      He has 50/50 custody, including all medical decision-making, and continues to be a Disney dad who does zero actual parenting and treats our 10yo like a college roommate. The current situation, as you can imagine, is a disaster.

      So honestly, I hate hate hate her anti-vax position and think she’s an irresponsible parent just for that alone. But if he isn’t already doing 50% of the day to day parenting, then I can’t blame her for refusing to let him have that without a fight.

    • Barbiem says:

      Being the primary caregiver while married is the marriage set up. Its reasonable to change that set up once both parties are divorced and single. Being primary caregiver or is not locked in stone. She might still end up carrying the load OR she might not. Think they both are right. Request what you would like and ho from there. Divorce can suck.

    • Vero83 says:

      That’s actually not accurate. I watch the show. Since Jay retired he has been the primary parent for years now. He does the drop offs, pickups, playdates, etc. Kristen was building her business and travelling back and forth to LA quite a bit.

  8. Ninks says:

    I only vaguely slightly know who she is, and know even less about him and under normal circumstances I would give zero shit about either of them, but these are not normal circumstances and everything is so crazy and intense right now that I’m actually starved for a good old fashioned “celebrity” gossip story so here I am reading about these two people. (I feel for the kids though; not vaccinated, terrible terrible names, and now this.)

  9. Melissa says:

    When my ex and I divorced there was nothing amicable and we disagreed on almost every division of assets. Neither of us ever considered less than joint custody, we made those kids together and they deserved both of us.
    Yea, I did most of the heavy lifting prior to that, he figured it out pretty quickly.

    • Lindy says:

      Unfortunately, not every man figures it out, and in those cases, 50/50 is not in the child’s best interests. If I had believed my ex would be capable of stepping up, I wouldn’t have blinked at that. And I continue to try to promote a good relationship between my son and his dad at every opportunity because I think it’s very important. All of that is in spite of my ex’s absolutely awful behavior and refusal to step up and be a committed father. He would rather stay up with our 10yo playing video games until 2am and then forget to take him to school on time. Among other things. Just be aware that not everyone is in a situation where they can make that work. I’m sure you didn’t mean to sound smug about your divorce, but suggesting that others who *don’t* automatically go for 50/50 are not keeping their kids at the forefront is unhelpful.

      Do some reading about the way that abusive narcissists (almost always men) use the court system and custody battles to continue their spousal abuse.

      • Melissa says:

        Not every man figures it out. Not every woman figures it out.
        Abusive narcissists exists in both genders.
        Using the courts to continue spousal abuse either emotionally or financially is also not exclusive to either gender.

        Both of us, as divorced people, are seeing this through the lens of our own experiences. My comment was based on my experience, I didn’t make a judgement on what anyone else should do.

        I’m not sure what came off as smug about “nothing was amicable and we disagreed about almost everything”. We were both assholes at various stages of the process, it isn’t something I’m all that proud of, but if I don’t acknowledge my own faults I can’t learn from them.

        That being said – in our case – 50/50 worked because it was the only thing we both committed to.

  10. Case says:

    Well I guess they’re not “consciously uncoupling” eh?

  11. S says:

    In legal terms, these filings are clear code for…Neither parent wants to abandon the family home/children’s primary residence because both sets of lawyers have informed them it will substantially harm their case, particularly in regards to custody. They want a judge to make the call about who should stay, and who should go. This is particularly true in high dollar divorce cases, as this one is, where the couple almost certainly owns multiple properties one spouse could easily decamp to.

    The only reason to still be residing in the same domicile is legal wrangling. Now, it could be very genuine legal wrangling, in that the parent who voluntarily leaves their children in the primary custody of their spouse loses substantial ground in any future, hard fought custody battle, which this looks like it’s shaping up to be, but it’s legal wrangling all the same, and in the end its the children who suffer.

    Absolutely terrible for young children to be living in a war zone between their parents. Even if they don’t fight in front of them, the tension must be excruciating, no matter how many square feet it’s expanded over. The fact that three, real life kids under ten are involved in this mess makes it impossible to just enjoy as a gossip story.

    • Harper says:

      I read somewhere that they were recently switching off between their homes to avoid being together. Maybe with the filing, each lawyer advised them to stop doing that to better their case. They own two enormous homes in the Nashville area so getting away from each other should not be a problem.

      • S says:

        Yeah, that’s absolutely what happened. There are lots of cases were cohabitating after a split really is kind of unavoidable, usually for financial reasons. But, here, they’re prioritizing legal posturing over the emotional health of their children. Which says a lot about both of them.

        My job is what I’d call social-work-adjacent, so I end up having to be in family court 3-4 times a year, and 90% of what I hear while I’m waiting is divorce/custody stuff (even though that’s not my particular purview), and it’s all so incredibly awful and depressing. On the plus side, it always makes me appreciate my husband a lot more when I get home.

    • Amy says:

      I could be wrong but i thought on the show they had a get away retreat thing on the property. If one of them stayed there would that suffice for your legal wrangling?

      I hate the idea of kids dealing with messy divorces

      • S says:

        I’m not a lawyer, and have never been divorced but, because I live in the world, know a lot of people that have, including my parents—who never actually married to each other—six times between them.

        If a divorce is gonna be messy, and anytime there is custody issues and/or millions on the line, it’s probably gonna be messy, anything that can be used, will, and if one parent is not there to do the morning routine, bedtime, etc., even if they’re nearby, that can definitely be seen as moving out and leaving the parenting to their spouse, which is absolutely what they’re trying to avoid showing the court.

      • Amy says:

        Thanks that is interesting- and tells you why I would be a bad lawyer because I was thinking that is a terrible environment for kids to be in so its a loving gesture to release some of the tension by moving out and having daily interactions.

      • amilou says:

        They might’ve in their first mega-mansion on the show (that is still sitting on the market – was $8M now $5M), but later they moved to a smaller, farmhouse-y estate.

    • Jules says:

      ugh, yea, they look uncomfortable in every photo together, there is clearly messiness behind all this, and then three kids.

  12. Spicecake38 says:

    These people sound like jerks,and I feel sorry for their kids.

    • Lauren II says:

      Kristen and Jay don’t seem to have a deep connection on any level. Kristen treats Jay like an employee, and he seems emasculated by her abrasive personality.
      Not surprised at all. The love is gone, if there ever was any.

      • april says:

        I think she loved him more than he loved her. The one that loves least has the most power.

  13. niki says:

    Jay better get a whole new personality if he’s going to succeed in broadcasting.

    • S says:

      The irony being that, even though I don’t exactly know who either of these people are, if they did appear together on “her” reality show, that almost certainly increased his name recognition, thus making him more valuable as a broadcaster. Something I bet she claims (and not wrongly) in court, if he’s trying to protect a new contract from their joint assets.

      • Erinn says:

        It’s such a weird situation because he in turn had brought attention back to her by being with her post The Hills. They really seem to have had their fame in waves.

    • Harper says:

      Yes, they won’t be hiring Jay for his sparkling personality. But paired with someone with a bigger personality he can fill the “What do you think is going through the team’s mind now, Jay?” role very easily.

      And Jay is very well known in the NFL. Kristen made them a Hollywood couple, but he does not need her for anything.

  14. Jessica says:

    For the sake of reality tv she’s morphed the situation into being “blindsided,” which is ridiculous. Each party in this type of situation wants to control the narrative. It’s better for her ratings at this point to be the wronged, blindsided party – she can sell the story of the single girl, recovering from a tragic divorce, raising three small children. I wonder if she’ll try to go back to Cali.

    I’m all for zoning out to meaningless tv, but this couple is so boring.

  15. Blacksred says:

    IIRC jay didnt want to marry her and then all of a sudden she got pregnant.

  16. Meg says:

    ‘ If Jay wants to break their deal about keeping things amicable, she is not scared of fighting for what she wants for their kids.”

    The way this is phrased sounds very manipulative, ‘break their deal’? Like ‘you promised youd go along with whatever i wanted but if you speak up for what you wanted then that means you dont keep your promises!’
    amicable here seems to mean dont speak up about how you feel or what you want in order to keep the peace- yeah that’ll just cause more resentment

    • damejudi says:

      Oh, it’s definitely a thinly veiled threat. Just like my ex wanted our divorce amicable, i.e. I should agree to every single thing he wants.

      I had to deal with lots of narcissistic rage when my response was that I would not waive what I was entitled to under my state’s laws.

  17. Lonnie tinks says:

    I find her extreme thinness interesting, like she must live in a constant state of hunger to be that slim and fit.

  18. amilou says:

    Re: them posting the same flowery BS —

    As far as I’ve read, Kristin (or her team) had always run @ifjayhadaninstagram, so it’s no wonder. You know…if Jay had an Instagram account, it might look like that.

  19. Jezebeelzebub says:

    That Kristin person has always come off like *such* an asshole to me anyway – add in the antivaxx bullshit and I pretty much feel like she shouldn’t be allowed near any living things except for plants.

    Also, 50/50 custody is hard, but that’s what happens when neither parent is unfit and both parents want their kids around. (That’s the case in Florida where I live and got divorced, anyway.) A 50/50 split isnt ideal, I guess, but kids are adaptable. If both the parents do their part to make it as smooth as possible and are matter-of-fact about it, it’s not that bad. I’d say it’s worse to have one parent who kind of doesnt give a shit.

  20. Tiffany says:

    As a OG Laguna Beach watcher, looks like Lauren won, huh Kristin.

  21. tcbc says:

    I don’t know why people think Jay is pro-vaccination. We have no proof of that. The only thing we know for sure is that Kristen is anti-vax, has mouthed off about it, and that they have children together. It’s more likely that he is also anti-vax.

  22. Ames says:

    Tennessee is not a “fault state.” They allow fault-based petitions, which is different. The vast majority of people who petition for fault are (still usually) wives who want a bigger piece of the money pie from a spouse who makes way more than they do. It’s also a popular filing in Tennessee because it lets people sidestep the mandatory separation period.

  23. SURFCHICK says:

    I thought she DID vaccinate her kids eventually. Jay also has Diabetes and they seem to drink often, that combination really takes a toll physically and on your mood. I had a feeling he filled. She’s not one to show her hand but she seems I’d push comes to shove, she’s prepared. I don’t understand why so many people dislike her. I like them both and I feel sorry for their children.

  24. Oopygoopy says:

    When I look at her the only things I can think are, “smug” and “giant fartsniffer”. Poor kids.

  25. Jana says:

    These two have had zero chemistry on the show and I always felt like they really didn’t like each other very much…both seem a little cold and fake. Another couple victim of the reality show curse.

  26. RoyalBlue says:

    i am puzzled. if this is the case:

    “They are on opposite sides of the house and only communicate in regards to the children’s needs. They have barely spoken since the Bahamas trip.”

    then how can she be blindsided? that sounds like a horrible situation to be in. they did not sleep in the same room, but were not talking? well it seems impossible for a relationship to work if that is the case. that’s like the pillars of doom in a relationship.