Duchess Kate & William are threatening legal action against Tatler

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So much for “stiff upper lip” royals and “never complain, never explain.” Apparently, it’s only biracial duchesses who must never, ever respond to false accusations or untrue reporting. Apparently, it’s only the height of scandal when Prince Harry and Meghan threaten media outlets with lawsuits (and follow through). When the white duchess does it, it’s merely a bold, righteous, feminist move, right? So it is with the Duchess of Cambridge and Tatler’s “Catherine the Great” cover story. It was supposed to be the centerpiece of a 2020 Embiggening Kate campaign. Instead, the piece was full of petty quotes and spilled tea, most of which made Kate look like a lazy, out-of-touch narcissist who thinks she’s working “as hard as a top CEO.” We still don’t know the extent to which Kate and the palace communications team worked with Tatler and/or authorized people around Kate to speak to Tatler. But now Kate and William are threatening to “take legal action” against Tatler:

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are understood to be taking legal action against society bible Tatler magazine after it published a ‘string of lies’ about Kate. In a highly unusual move, the couple have sent legal letters to the magazine demanding its profile of the Duchess – headlined ‘Catherine the Great’ – be removed from the internet.

It comes after Kensington Palace issued a fiercely critical statement on last week’s article which it said contained a ‘swathe of inaccuracies and false representations’. The palace is particularly ‘furious’ about claims that Kate feels ‘exhausted and trapped’ by the increased workload following Harry and Meghan’s decision to step back. The Duke and Duchess are also said to be upset about criticism of her family, her children and her weight.

A Royal source told The Mail on Sunday: ‘That is such an extremely cruel and wounding barb. It’s disgusting. It’s sexist and woman-shaming at its very worst. The piece is full of lies. There is no truth to their claim that the Duchess feels overwhelmed with work, nor that the Duke is obsessed with Carole Middleton. It’s preposterous and downright wrong. The whole thing is class snobbery at its very worst. The stuff about [Kate’s sister] Pippa is horrible. Tatler may think it’s immune from action as it’s read by the Royals and on every coffee table in every smart home, but it makes no difference. It’s ironic that the Royals’ favourite magazine is being trashed by them. The Duchess is a naturally shy woman who is doing her best.’

Tatler’s article also claims that Kate, 38, had a spat with Meghan Markle ahead of her wedding to Prince Harry in May 2018. It says the clash took place at a rehearsal two days before the big day and centred on whether Princess Charlotte and the other young bridesmaids should wear tights. Instead, The Mail on Sunday understands that the fall-out was over Meghan’s reaction to Kate’s request that the hem of Charlotte’s dress be lengthened. The resulting row left Kate in tears.

The Mail on Sunday understands that Tatler approached Kensington Palace in February to ask if Kate would pose for their cover or provide an exclusive cover photo. That request was politely declined and it is understood that Kensington Palace was not offered the chance to comment on the specific content of Ms Pasternak’s article. Tatler did not respond to a Mail on Sunday request for comment and Kensington Palace declined to comment.

[From The Daily Mail]

As soon as the full Tatler piece began to pick up steam last Wednesday, I kept my eye on Tatler’s site – the link to the cover story was moved off Tatler’s front page, and they also removed it from their “Royals” section and “Duchess of Cambridge” section. But the link was still active, and people could still read the full piece on the site, it was just difficult to access just by navigating the Tatler site. The fact that Tatler was making it more difficult to find the article was a signal to me that there was a lot of screaming and foot-stomping happening at Kensington Palace and a lot of calls and threats were being made, even as early as Wednesday.

I also think it’s notable that William & Kate aren’t exactly promising to sue. Look at the wording – “understood to be taking legal action” and “the couple have sent legal letters to the magazine demanding its profile of the Duchess… be removed from the internet.” Right now they’re just hoping the threat of legal action will be enough to censor an unflattering article, an article which they likely approved of in the early stages. I’m reminded of how William made similar threats last year around American and British reporting of the Rose Hanbury-affair story, claiming that his human rights were being violated (lol). The palace even “applied pressure” to Giles Coren for TWEETING about the affair.

It’s also worth noting that with every denial or threat from the palace, there’s a recitation of the “Meghan made Kate cry” story and some kind of added clarification of that. Which just goes along with my theory that Kate originally wanted the Tatler story to focus on throwing Meghan under the bus yet again. The point of it was to reiterate that Meghan Made Kate Cry (For Reasons). It’s also worth noting that Kate couldn’t care less about correcting anything regarding Meghan or how the Cambridges treated the Sussexes. All Kate is mad about is how Tatler made fun of HER. Also: “The Duchess is a naturally shy woman who is doing her best.” Can we all come together and stop infantalizing Kate?

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  1. Kay Dozier says:

    So Meghan and Harry were supposed to put up with constant and relentless smearing, but the first time an article is published that doesn’t slather praise all over Will and Kate, threats of lawsuits are courageous. Hmmm I wonder what the difference is?

    • StartupSpouse says:

      Welp, Meghan and Harry can take comfort in knowing that even when the Palace tries to defend itself, it trips over it’s own feet. Take this gem:

      Daily Mail: It’s not true that Kate feels like an overworked CEO. She has worked LESS than this same time last year. “29 this year against 35 in 2019.”


    • Kebbie says:

      Seriously. I thought suing the press was embarrassing and highly against protocol. What happened to keeping calm and carrying on? Suing only brings more bad attention, right? Or is that only when a black woman does it?

    • Anon says:

      Difference is the “delicate personality” of Kate, as Lana Del Whine would put it.

    • Beth says:

      Oprah magazine had to even wade in on this on their Instagram page. The comments were mostly “ so the palace can debunk articles, where was this same loyalty and protection for Meghan? I could tell Oprah was fuming and disgusted.
      Moreso, doesnt. Kate n William know it’s not the right timing? We’re in a pandemic you know😂 When the shoe is on the other foot😏

    • I am Mimi says:

      I’m fascinated by how quickly the palace mobilized to issue a statement, slam the piece via anonymous sources, threaten to sue, etc. over ONE single unflattering piece about Kate and said NOTHING when Meghan was being vilified. THIS is why Harry picked up his family and left.

      • Babz says:

        I just keep remembering Harry’s statement, “If you knew what I know…” I don’t know that we will ever find out all that transpired, but more and more, it’s becoming obvious that there are some seriously bad actors in the royal family. There has to be, because the wall of silence that was erected toward defending Meghan from the abuse she received was without one tiny crack. It was a concerted effort to smear her and make her life enough of a hell that she would leave. Thank God, thank God that Harry is the loving, strong man he is, that he took her and Archie and left. I hope they never go back. That family and that country don’t deserve them.

    • Tessa says:

      I see in some comments sections that Kate is treated like a super saint for suing. Yet Meghan is dragged through the mud for doing exactly the same thing.

  2. Digital Unicorn says:

    They are only threatening to sue to hide that fact that Unable sanctioned this story and Tatler has receipts – they want to shut Tatler up. Too late as the Tatler piece confirmed that Kate was behind smears in the press against her SIL. She’s been exposed as the lazy mean girl she is.

    The DoLittles only sue when they have something to hide and usually when what has been reported is the truth.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Subscriptions to Tatler have exploded. Tatler will not fall back because, as Digital Unicorn stated, they have receipts.

    • Livvers says:

      Will and Kate should be more alarmed that the Norfolk crowd has reached a point that they are ready and willing to start gossiping about them to a publication now, not just among themselves, not that Tatler printed those comments . If Will and Kate come for the turnip toff’s favourite publication too aggressively, will they just find other outlets to spread even more snark?

      • Jaded says:

        @Livvers – that’s exactly what I said in another royal post on Friday. The Norfolk Nobs have closed ranks to them after the Hanbury story broke – they are a tight- knit group who keep their secrets well…that is until Keen and Willileaks went whining to the press.

      • Livvers says:

        Sorry I must have missed that or I would have given credit!

        I keep thinking that compared to some of the families that live in Norfolk with their ties going back hundreds of years, even William is probably some trumped-up come from away to them. I couldn’t find it, but didn’t the toffs of the day used to criticize Queen Victoria as a ‘middle-class German hausfrau’? Danny Dyer has a longer English royal lineage than William!

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        I don’t think it even necessary about the Norfolk folks turning on them. I think any mention of Rose spooks them. And Tatler blatantly stated that Rose and Willy were getting too close! They’ve done well so far to keep this relationship quiet. And Tatler isn’t some trashy tabloid / womens magazine – even Daily Mail couldn’t deny that its read by society people.

    • Vava says:

      ah. Poor pitiful Kate. She’s earning the reputation she deserves.

    • A says:

      Also, the fact that they’re suing the Tatler of all magazines? I mean, they’d have a leg to stand on if they threatened a tabloid even. But the Tatler? Come ON.

  3. Seraphina says:

    The press is doing what they should: bringing things to light. I can’t believe I’m this day and age they are being muzzled by money and power. But after watching Netflix’s this week, I realize how naive and dumb I am.

    • Manda says:

      Which Netflix thing did you watch?

      • Anon says:

        The Epstein doc serial, I guess…

      • Seraphina says:

        The one on Epstein. It’s on Netflix. It really brings to light everything that is wrong in our country, the US. Power and money can buy one anything.

    • lemonylips says:

      It IS an insane story. I recommend it to everyone. It’s sickening but a must watch. It’s called Filthy Rich

      • Seraphina says:

        @LemonyLips, INSANE is an understatement. I’m hoping that these types of journalism will help start the revolution for us to wake up and see how these people are all connected and cover their asses.
        Another good one to watch is The Devil Next Door. It drove home the point that if they can use you to their benefit, they will. That may mean protection and it may mean being a casualty. Usually the poor are the casualties. Society hasn’t changed from when the people revolted against the French monarchy or the Russian Imperialists. It’s just more hidden and we THINK we have more freedoms.

      • lemonylips says:

        @Seraphina, I agree with your thoughts on this. I just told my friend after watching the documentary that Marx’s statement should be changed into “illusion of freedom is an opium for the masses”. I just saw Anonymous taking over twitter and I have no idea what to think about what’s happening right now. I think I need a few days of just exploring pinterest or something. Thanks for recommending this other documentary…. I hope I can stomach it now.

      • Bella says:

        @Seraphina and lemonylips
        You are so right. The establishment protects its own.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      I haven’t even been able to finish it yet, it is so fucking depressing.

  4. Lara says:

    They’ve made themselves look even more idiotic. I hope they sue and I hope they lose.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Well, it is apparently very important for the public to know that Kate cried about hemlines and not tights.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Well, given that Kate herself has a problem with hemlines of course she cried about it – how many times has Kate exposed herself in public due to her dislike of hem weights on her hemlines.

        Its very important for Kate to be seen as the victim – always the victim.

      • Ginger says:

        Tom Bradby said that something went down before the wedding and with everything that went on with Thomas Markel and Kate crying over tights and Charlottes hemlines, they were hoping Meghan would be fed up and call the wedding off. Just a theory.

        Looking at the dresses their hemlines were fine. The dresses went past the knees which is longer than any other royal wedding I have seen. There was no need for that.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I think Kate made a fuss about both hemlines and tights (the tights story was quite specific with the details) – I wouldn’t be surprised if she pulled a lot of passive aggressive shit on Meghan under the guise of “giving advice about protocol”.

        And considering the context with all the drama about ToxicTom, being a passive-aggressive a-hole is just really nasty on Kate’s part.

      • Yvette says:

        @ArtHistorian …”I think Kate made a fuss about both hemlines and tights (the tights story was quite specific with the details).”

        I came here to post the same thing. I think the spat between Meghan and Kate was a 2-parter, that there was a heated discussion in the fitting room over lack of tights–with Meghan the winner. And that Kate made her request to lengthen the hem on Charlotte’s dress at the rehersah dinner, seeking backup because she couldn’t hold her own with Meghan one on one. I’m assuming both Charles and William were at the rehersal dinner and Kate wanted/expected one of them to put Meghan in her place.

        Evidentlly (what with all the stories about Meghan making Kate cry that somehow got leaked by Kensington Palace staff), Meghan held her own at the rehersal dinner as well. 🙂

      • Dilettante says:

        😊👏 hemlines and not tights…

      • PrincessK says:

        What is Kate’s business in Meghan’s wedding? If you accept for your kid to be a bridesmaid you accept what the kid has to wear and keep your mouth shut.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate thinking the skirts were too short would be silly on her part. The bridesmaid skirts at Pippa and Eugenie’s weddings were shorter, but she didn’t cry over those.

    • Mumbles says:

      If they sue, they *will* lose. I’m betting the article is all sourced and moreover, most of the piece is opinion. You can’t base a lawsuit on “people think Kate is too thin” and “people think William has mommy issues” and that nonsense about the reason behind the disagreement, which they apparently concede happened. That’s why I agree with the post that they’re saying “they’re *considering* suing” which is their way of casting doubt on the piece without pulling the trigger. Moreover if they do sue, it is possible that Meghan would be called as a witness regarding the Big Blowout that Made Kate Cry, and I don’t think they would want that.

      I don’t think the Sussexes’ case is very strong, but this suit would be *baseless.*

      Could they be suing just to see who was interviewed and who said what?

      And yes I remember all the kerfuffle when the Sussexes sued the Mail. Simply Not Done, we all heard at the time. (Except remember when there were topless photos of Kate – smoking a cig, which probably upset them more – and then they screamed and they were pulled?)

      • Bella says:

        @ Mumbles
        Quite right about the Tatler article. These are just scare tactics, but will throw petrol on the fire. Once again, these two are taking bad advice or ignoring good advice.

        Meghan’s case is very strong, though. No comparison. Her legal team made their point about misrepresentations by trying to get them included as an aggravating circumstance, or proof of bad faith regarding publication of the letter – the judge wasn’t having it but they have got the corrections into the public domain.

      • BeanieBean says:

        I agree. And I think they won’t sue, because they know they’d lose. And I’m surprised (not really) that everyone was/is so concerned about Kate crying before Meghan’s wedding–if anyone had reasons to cry before that wedding it was Meghan.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      WTAF is she even complaining about?

      She’s the future queen, not Meghan. Suck it up, snowflake.

  5. Ginger says:

    Kate is such an awful person. I was “meh” on her before Harry and Meghan’s wedding but now….

    What happened to that spine of steel Tatler said she had? She is such a weak person and wouldn’t last 5 seconds in Meghan’s shoes.

    • CherHorowitz says:

      Yep and pulling the fragile white woman thing, even though meghan is the same age and was supposed to take much much worse on the chin.

      The hypocrisy of their reaction to this vs reaction to Meghan’s press is truly astounding and they are really exposing themselves.

    • Busyann says:

      Agreed! I fell for the story they were peddling, as Kate being this weak, meek, woman trying to tow the line, not outshine her husband, but she’s just as awful as Will is. Awful.

    • SnowQueenM says:

      Kate is what happens when a Karen marries into royalty.

  6. Zappy says:

    Let them fight. Everything is so depressing right now, so light gossip about these royals and aristos is good.
    Was the story already printed? If its already printed, good for Tattler, because some people will buy it out of curiosity. KP really need to upgrade their PR game, the one who made this story bigger was themself

    • Babz says:

      I thought the exact same thing – everything is so horrible right now, and this provides the perfect respite to all the grief and anger happening. It gives me a chance to breathe for a bit.

  7. Becks1 says:

    First – the article did not attack the children, not at all. The most it said was that Kate and will wanted to be able to do the school run but couldn’t because of Harry and Meghan for some mysterious reason.

    Anyway this article makes clear why W&K are so ticked about the Tatler story – it’s read by the royals and is in every “smart home.” They know their “set” is laughing behind their backs and that stings, but suing seems like an overreaction.

    I don’t think they will actually sue. I think this is like the Rose Hanbury situation; where they’ll threaten just enough so the article gets taken down. But the issue is still out there and screenshots are forever.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      KP is really doing their best to keep this story alive.

      • Becks1 says:

        I know!!! That’s cracking me up. This article probably would have blown over in a week on its own. Threatening a lawsuit just keeps it going.

        It’s like Rosegate all over again. Without the ridiculous Richard Kay article, the gossip about Rural Rivals might have just gone away.

      • Sofia says:

        Exactly Becks. These people really learned nothing from last year. It’s pretty much a repeat of the situation down to going to Richard Kay and sending out letters threatening legal action.

      • February Pisces says:

        It’s like Kate played the only card she had left, and she’s determined for it to have some impact. Shame no one cares.

      • blacktoypoodle says:

        The “Barbra Streisand” effect.
        And yes, with everything real that is going on this story is a brief mental vacation, like chewing gum. Not nutritious, doesn’t help you grow or heal the world but sure is fun for a solid 5 minutes. Laughing my butt off. The vacuousness of the Royals. I’m still not over the “5 Question Survey”. I need more time to complete my answers.
        (And thank you to everyone for keeping a spreadsheet of who/what/when. You cheer me up with the receipts)

    • ST says:

      The importance of Kate getting to do the school run is funny to me. Wasn’t there an article about a year ago about how William loves to do the school run so that he can go to the gym afterwords with the friendly young mothers that also dropped off their kids?

      • BeanieBean says:

        I love how this is somehow Meghan & Harry’s fault. I mean, seriously?

      • notasugarhere says:

        The ‘William is surrounded by young mums in spandex and isn’t tempted’ was to deflect from the Rose stories. All those ‘long country walks’ and ‘intimate dinners’ meant nothing, because known-cheater William isn’t even tempted by spandex. All those solo hours in the fields and at Houghton, nope, nothing to see here.

        KP, W&K, and Carole tried far too hard to deflect and only brought attention to the Rose talk. They never learn.

    • starryfish29 says:

      They pull out the “protecting the children” bit every single time they don’t like something. And FFS why is “doing the school run” the single parenting achievement that they keep touting?

      • BeanieBean says:

        Maybe it’s the only alone time they actually have with these kids? Oh, wait, no, I remember seeing a photo of Kate with George & nanny after a school run, so never mind!

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s way too late for the article to be pulled down. They’ve now brought it much more attention with these vague threats to sue, which they won’t do because saying mean things about Kate and Carole isn’t a basis for a lawsuit.

      • Jay says:

        Agreed! With everything else going on, it would be easy to let it fade into the background, but they can’t seem to do it. They can’t even do the celebrity “Oh, I was so busy working with my charities and raising my children that I haven’t read the article” stuff.

        If they do go ahead and sue (surely they can’t be that dumb, right?) I cannot WAIT – discovery works both ways, you know? Wouldn’t they have to somehow prove that the claims were false, or that they caused substantial harm? That could get messy real fast. Well, maybe it’s not too late to go in with the Sussexes on their media lawsuit…😏

      • notasugarhere says:

        Good idea to copy, paste, and save the text for reference later, in case Tatler does pull it down.

      • MerryGirl says:

        I already did.

  8. Harla says:

    Wow just wow, the royals are so tone-deaf and optics blind. We see you, we see you throw your sister-in-law under the bus, we see demanding treatment that you didn’t extend to your biracial sister-in-law, we see the hypocrisy of this statement, we see your thin skin. We see you and your actions and we won’t forget.

  9. Harper says:

    I hope Tatler tells his Royal Incandescence to go ahead and try and sue. I thought that the editorial in the article was quite balanced and that Tatler wrote it that way on purpose — Kate is perilously thin, but one could argue that she’s naturally slim, or a vigorous exerciser, or perhaps it’s stress. Pretty fair reporting, IMO.

    But what Tatler did so well is compliment Kate and then follow it with a trash quote from one of her friends. It’s a masterpiece. I might buy a subscription to Tatler to express my gratitude.

    • Lush says:

      It’s not a bad piece on Kate. It’s fair and balanced whereas the Tatler article on Meghan was a straight up hit. I think they are threatening to sue because Will comes off looking really incompetent.

  10. Yoyo says:

    Notice none of the RR reporters or the British tabloids are writing (multiple articles in the same edition about this tattler flattering piece) they hardly mentioned it.
    This story would’ve died, if Karen and Kevin just ignored, but no they had to called more attention to it.
    Bitter Betty is paying off pedo Andy’ overdue 6 million for the Chateau, so that story will die, now if she could control Netflix.

    • lemonylips says:

      Have you seen the documentary? I thought I knew the story but did not know half of it. I have so many questions. Like where is Maxwell? Anonymous published Epstein’s black book. Both Andrew And Fergie are on the list. Sorry if threadjacking, I just watched it yesterday and am super puzzled by all of it.

      • Yoyo says:

        Maxwell knows where all the bodies are buried, her rich friends are protecting her.
        I watched Reelz story about Andy and Epstein, no one knows where Epstein money came from.

    • ravynrobyn says:

      @ YOYO-“Kevin and Karen”…perfection 🤗👏

      • pineapple says:

        Kevin and Karen. Nicely done.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        No, two of my favorite people (friend and cousin) are named Kevin! I think Jared is more appropriate. Or Scott. I have known a LOT of Scott’s in my life, and literally every single one was an a-hole jerk. Karen and Scott just sound like they go together and would be those terrible neighbors you wouldn’t want to invite to the block bbq lol.

      • Trashaddict says:

        I would actually argue that Andrew or Donald sounds more plausible as the terrible neighbor. That’s only a slight coincidence, BTW.

  11. February Pisces says:

    They get one article written about them that doesn’t go their way and they run straight to their lawyers. What happened to never complain never explain? Meghan and Harry had three years of being attacked by the media with multiple hit pieces written daily. This just shows that the palace have the power to remover what is written about the royals when they want to, except for when it’s about harry and Meghan of course.

    Also I don’t think William had anything to do with this piece, it was all kate. There were two digs at William, is Stephen fry skit was called ‘wooden’ (cos he’s much better with Kate by his side) and how he’s ‘obsessed with Carole and how she’s there mother he always wanted’, which is a slap in the face to Diana. I imaging William was furious just by those two bits alone.

    Pippa was described as ‘living in her sisters shadow’. Those digs are all kate. I always thought was hella competitive with pips, and loves to remind people that she got the title and her sister didn’t.

    • February Pisces says:

      I also forgot the ‘ rose getting close to William’ bit would also majorly piss him off, but I think that one was not fed by Kate, unless she was trying to plant a seed just in case william tries to pass the ‘sussexit’ blame into her.

    • Ginger says:

      Yeah, this article was 100% Kate. This is why she has no friends. She is mean and competitive. She loves to tear people down to make herself shine. She likes to hide behind being “so shy”. Please.

      • February Pisces says:

        She’s going to lead a very sad and lonely life because of it. It’s a shame she’s eaten away be her own insecurities. She’s not ‘shy’ she’s just aloof and uninterested in the world around her.

      • BECKK2 says:

        Lol that why I said in this site some time ago that middleton family closeness is bs. That the show put on by carole to show the world they are happy and close. I said and I will say again after carole died those middleton sister will not that close and many more drama will come. Middleton sister are competitive with eachother. Karen love to put pippa under her place with no title. I think there is more to Kate and pippa. My theory is that growing up pippa is star of the family and karen might jealous of her. I dont if pippa might also have crush on William because of close age. What if kate went after William to spite on pippa to tell I have future king and you dont?? That’s why we never saw any interaction between pippa and William in 20 years which is not normal . Kate might encourage pippa to pursue those aristocracy men and everyone with Brain knows why aristocracy treat outside person and Middleton actively encourage pippa is very shady and at last pippa doesnt get any. That’s why karen love to put her sister in her place as no title. I think both middleton sister is jealous of eachother. Pippa is jealous of Kate spotlight , karen envy of pippa is because she has everything for free and not to care work. I said it that carole put wrong sisters in their role.

      • Izzy says:

        Yes, she’s so shy she once strutted down a runway in a bikini and a fishnet dress for a school fashion show.

      • February Pisces says:

        @beckk2 Pippa is like Kim Kardashian when she was hanging around Paris Hilton, she was ‘in her shadow’ , but just knew she she could do it a lot better.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if Pippa threw herself at William the day kate brought him home for the first time. And I don’t see William turning anyone down.

        Kate doesn’t do pap strolls with her sister anymore cos she doesn’t want Pippa to be a ‘thing’. Kate is probably still fuming that Pippa’s flat ass got all the attention on HER wedding. The wedding was her day and her sister kind of stole her thunder.

      • Olenna says:

        @February Pisces,
        Her life is going to be just like QM Carole’s. She will always be grasping for more prestige. Her “body of work” will be only what’s she’s done to elevate herself and her children, and she will have no close friends b/c she trusts no one, not just women.

      • Mtec says:

        Exactly. And if Kate was “so shy” then how come she was totally okay with being on the front cover if a magazine calling her “Catherine The Great”? & all these years calling her the future queen even though there’s still 2 others ahead of her? If she really was that shy she would have been embarrassed by all of that embiggening, but instead she contributed to it, and to the detriment of another woman—so much for caring about sexism and mothers 🙄.

        The only kind of shy Kate has ever been is “work shy.”

      • notasugarhere says:

        ‘The only kind of shy Kate has ever been is work shy’. Mtec, that was brilliant.

      • PrincessK says:

        I also believe that there is much more to the Pippa Kate relationship, l don’t think they are really close but competitors and Kate won the biggest prize. Pippa tried hard to get off with a number of toffs, including one far richer than William, but she had to settle for the one she has. Pippa’s courtship is the mirror image of Kate and William’s, she had to settle for the guy who had been hanging around for the longest when the other guys she wanted turned her down. Rumour has it that one family told their son to dump her because they didn’t want the association and all it would bring. Pippa was all out for getting the most out of being royal sister in law until William supposedly her to pipe down. She has been very quiet lately.

    • Chaine says:

      It sounded like all Kate behind it to me too, especially the very last bit saying that she is William’s “most trusted adviser.” Really??? If true, that explains his many, many missteps…

      • February Pisces says:

        If kate gives William advice she’s his ‘trusted adviser’ if Meghan gives harry advice he’s ‘whipped’. I can only count one husband here who respects his wife’s opinion.

    • S808 says:

      If Kate is ordering these puff pieces where William reads like a dependent idiot without his knowledge…….honey, you got a big storm comin’. This is not the first time he’s been portrayed as a fool who needs her either.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yeah, William really looked like an impressionable idiot who was being led on by the scheming Middletons. I doubt anything with his stamp on it would ever have him looking less than perfect. This has Kate and Carole all over it, and I have to wonder WHY they did this. Like S808 said, this isn’t the first time this narrative has been put out, and I can think of at least one story in the past 6 months in which it was used (far more subtly and briefly though).

      • February Pisces says:

        Does anyone notice that William and Kate tend to run their PR separately these days? You can always tell which one is behind it. Stories from Kate and the middletons only ever talk about how great they are and they don’t embiggen or even mention William at all. The articles from dan wootton and Richard kay are always from William. Stories from William tend to be leaks, or only trash harry and Meghan and don’t embiggen kate much at all unless it to compliment them both as a couple.

    • Lush says:

      The whole piece was a hit on William. His wife is seen as the kingmaker and savior of the monarchy, which says to me that there is something wrong with William.

      • xo says:

        I felt they were just damning Kate with faint praise. “Catherine the Great” & all that.

      • Babz says:

        I think it would behoove the Middletons to refresh their royal history. One certain family, the Boleyns, were so power hungry that they placed both their daughters in Henry VIII’s path. One, Mary, bore him an illegitimate child, but he never moved heaven and hell to marry her as he did when Anne was offered up to him. That family was supremely ambitious, and through both their daughters, received riches and positions of power that they used to try to influence the king. We all know how that story ended – beheading for Anne and her brother, and ruination for the rest of the family. The circumstances and times are different, but the premise is the same. Carole wants to influence the FFK through his FFQC, and if she oversteps her boundaries, the end result won’t be pretty. FFK could very well decide the FFQC and her family are dispensable and divorce Kate and move on. They are riding high right now, but I think Carole and FFQC are going to push their luck and could end up losing it all.

  12. ABritGuest says:

    Oh the irony-the Tatler piece was praising Kate for being stoic& NOT complaining about the press. And then for ‘royal sources’ to frame this as a sexism issue when royal women being silent seems to be praised& they frame Harry as whipped for listening to his wife.

    Oh and I’m sure there will be outrage about complaining about the press during a pandemic?

    I think the Palace is mainly upset about the reference to Rose& William’s closeness. I doubt there’s a real legal bust up pending though. I think the aim of this Fail piece was to hit back at Tatler for kind of calling them liars but also to get out another explanation behind tears-gate. Which is interesting as thought courtiers told the Times that the drama had left and the palace wasn’t interested in putting its side out on the Sussexes saga.

    Explanation to lengthen the hem of Charlotte’s dress is odd- that dress was longer than one Charlotte wore to Eugenie& Pippa’s wedding. Not sure why this is being laboured

    • Beach Dreams says:

      “I think the Palace is mainly upset about the reference to Rose& William’s closeness.”

      Yeah, that small section of the article was actually quite important when you think about it. None of the British outlets cited a cause for Rose and Kate’s blowout fight until now. The stories always claimed it was a big mystery and only talked about how shocking it was for the rest of their circle. For Pasternak to clearly state that the fight was due to Rose and William’s “apparent closeness”…that’s unusually blatant and a pretty big deal imo.

    • Mary says:

      @abg, we have now heard, from the Cambridge camp, three different stories about what the pre-marriage tiff was about. *Puts tin foil hat on* I think this may be on purpose to both muddy the waters about what actually happened and to pull away from any assertion that might be made in Omid Scobie’s biography of the Sussexes. Also it may be used to distract from the actual issue that caused the pre-wedding falling out. Bradby said that if people knew, they would side with the Sussexes. Dress alterations and tights don’t rise to that level. I think it is something else they don’t want out

      • Jay says:

        I’m right there with you, wearing my own tinfoil tiara! I’m ready to believe that whatever went down with Kate and Meghan started with some silly microaggressions about tights or dresses, but ended up in a much more serious place.
        I think that Kate’s side is hoping to draw everyone’s focus to the triviality of the tights story and talking about wedding protocol, in the hopes that they will forget the other parts of the article.
        What’s ironic is that instead of this constantly changing, throwing out new stories to try to garner sympathy, she could just have had someone put out: “Yeah, it was a time of stress, Kate was postpartum and dealing with toddler tantrums, she cried from the exhaustion and feels silly about it now. We’ve all been there!”

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        When I heard Tom Bradby say that; I automatically assumed that some really nasty things were said about Meghan, both behind her back and to her face. I also think the Palace tried to push for a pre-nup/ NDA and Harry and Meghan found out that the Palace were activly encouraging the press to report horrible things about her/ give access to her father.

      • xo says:

        Where/when did Bradby say that?

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        @xo: Tom was interviewed by Piers Morgan on his breakfast show (they both work for the same channel, ITV – Piers is on the breakfast morning show and Tom is a news reporter on the evening news).

        Tom was really nice and stuck up for the Sussexes. When Piers started complaining about Meghan daring to say how she felt; Tom said that he intentionally asked how she was feeling because he could tell that she was really struggling and she answered honestly; she wasn’t just bitching out of the blue.

        He then went on to say that there was some very upsetting things that had happened among the RF coming up to the wedding but wouldn’t go into detail (I took it as some really nasty things were said about/to Meghan – things you can’t take back).

        Tom has covered Harry on previous trips to Africa when he was single and I feel like he’s actually quite close to Harry and would know what was going on behind the scenes.

        He’s also an actual news reporter and journalist on legitimate new programmes that covers politics/current events and is a best selling author in his own right – so much more legitimate and credible than the Rota gossipers.

    • A says:

      I don’t think it was just the skirt lengths. The stuff about Pippa and Carole–phew. If someone wrote about my mom and sister like that? No matter how justified it was, I would have been pissed. I imagine that stuff about Carole being a grand old snob and faker with bad taste in decor brought back some ugly memories for Kate and the rest of them.

      • xo says:

        This is the kind of reporting that was CONSTANT in the early days of their romance, pre-engagement.

        The tenor of the coverage changed only after the engagement was announced.
        Middleton put up with YEARS of this kind of derision. It was obvious she wasn’t considered suitable.

  13. Powermoonchrystal says:

    This B. This week is not the week. They went out of their way to still highlight the Meghan story negatively. I hope the monarchy dies with Liz or Charles, and these 2 never get the big prize they have now proved crave.

    • damejudi says:

      Maybe someone needs to sit down with the FFQ and explain that the world’s got some bigger problems just now.

      If she had any PR smarts, that’s how she would have framed her response to questions about Tatler.

    • Sara says:

      Do they crave it though? Cuz they don’t seem to like to do all of the work that goes with it.
      As the article said, Kate begrudgingly gets dressed up and puts on a smile but she doesn’t want this. She wants to drop the kids off at school. And that seems to be about it. There’s nothing at all wrong with wanting to be a SAHM but she signed up to be the Queen of England.

      • Kitikonti says:

        Sara – that’s the ironic part, they want to be King and Queen, with all the jewels, crowns and “power” but they don’t want to do ANY work at all. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they believe that when their turn comes, there will be nobody higher than them to boss them around. Then they can just move to Mustique and return for State functions. Finally the lifestyle they want 😁

  14. Toot says:

    Kate has nerve and is a piece of shit. She tried to tell Meghan to lengthen Charlotte’s dress and had the nerve to cry about it, but Charlotte’s dress was shorter at Pippa’s wedding, and then also shorter at Eugenie’s which came after Meghan’s.

    Catherine weaponized her fake tears, if true, and I understand even more why Meghan and Harry are now in California and Harry was sending death rays at the last Commonwealth service. It’s alright to take action for this crap, but KP never felt the need to deny anything against Meghan when she and Harry were there.

    I see why Harry has no use for William any longer.

    • Noki says:

      I didnt see,did Kate want the hemline longer or shorter?

      • Toot says:

        Supposedly she wanted it longer. Makes no sense. The tight story and this one. Kate is a true cow.

      • xo says:

        Kate would have been defending the traditional “Royal way” of doing things because she has been taught that little things like that are culturally significant.

        She could have been genuinely well intentioned in that advice, we don’t know.

  15. BECKK2 says:

    Lol typical karen move. I dont think these legal action work either because now they have opened a pandora box for press. They will not go after tatler with legal letter because they are aristocracy knows more about royal and they will make karen middleton life miserable. I have already said in this site that it’s a matter of time the press will go after karen middleton. In this piece too they left prince william alone for foreseeable future to argue how naive prince will not was and how Karen Middleton and her karen family took advantages of his naive character. Lol they are laying legal ground for karen middleton to bury her and her family. In few years all the lies and misinformation about karen will come. We saw time and time again married woman in Windsor are disposal and even in smear campaign they go after Meghan and how they paint harry as innocent manchild. Just because she gave birth to heir doesnt guarantee her position in that family. Look what happen to diana.

  16. DS9 says:

    I am legit dying that William and the palace picked this seemingly docile, ruffle no feathers, paragon of white virtue to counteract the scandal of Diana and instead, got themselves a lazy, do little duchess who can’t even manage to properly juggle a part time job with raising three children WITH domestic help.

    I won’t even touch the fact that these two threaten legal action over slight embarrassment but don’t have a discouraging word for the undeserved and racist shit peddled against H&M.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Palace didn’t pick Kate, William did.

    • Tessa says:

      Diana was not a scandal. She was good for the royals and they were too clueless to appreciate her. I would say she was too good for them. Also, the aristos did not want their daughters associated with the royals IMO because of the way Diana was treated.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Diana was a scandal for the royals at many points, and she wasn’t all that good for them. In large part, she and Fergie turned the BRF into a reality show.

  17. Harper says:

    The Tatler article’s claim that Kate is overworked spurred The Sunday Times to do a comparison of Cain and Unable’s work load between this year and last. Guess what? Harry’s exit didn’t result in Will and Kate doing more work.

    Will his Royal Incandescence threaten to sue the Sunday Times too now?

    • Yoyo says:

      I tried to read the story, but it’s behind a paywall.

    • Anon says:

      Can we get a quote, please? For posterity and LOLZ?

      • Harper says:

        According to the Sunday Times article, Wills did 44 engagements between Jan and March this year, which was only one more than the same period in 2019. Kate Cambridge did less — 29 this year from Jan to March as opposed to 35 in the same period of 2019.

    • February Pisces says:

      Ok so I’m really bored at home so I actually counted the number of days (not engagements) that Kate worked in the last year (excluding the lockdown cos I don’t count stupid zoom calls), so really over a 10 month period and it was something like 34 days. That’s from the CC. if 10 months is 300+ days, she takes like nearly 270 days off in 10 months.

      • Sofia says:

        I went on KateMiddletonReview and saw her numbers for 2019. She worked 82 days or something. That’s less than 3 months

        That means she gets around 9 months of doing nothing in public. Sounds like plenty of holiday time to me.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Plus she’s not working full work days. Those engagements are less than an hour, often less than 30 minutes.

      • Sara says:

        On days that she does “work”, she likely spends more time in hair and makeup than she does actually working.

    • Bella says:

      Well, well! lol

  18. Bettyrose says:

    Somewhere thousands of miles away, Meghan is not still obsessing over what Charlotte wore to her wedding.

    • pineapple says:

      Gotta love Meghan. Team Meghan.

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      Looooool, I bet Meghan wished she could not have had Charlotte as a flower girl just so that she didn’t have to deal with Kate’s demands.

      I’ve been planning a wedding and I have deliberately chosen not to even have bridesmaids because I cannot put up with the bullshit with having to deal bridesmaid dresses (and these would have been my actual close friends and sisters). No shade to those who have bridesmaids; the photos always look beautiful, but I just know myself and I’m too lazy to deal with that.

      The nonsense that Meghan had to deal with!

  19. L84Tea says:

    Kate’s humiliation disguised as anger. That’s all this is. Full of lies! Pull it from the internet! It’s full of LIES!!

    Yeah, Kate is absolutely mortified over this article and knowing people are laughing at her. Would you like one or two lumps of karma with your tea? 😉

    • kellebelle says:

      Good one. How do they think Meghan feels after YEARS of this BS? It looks good on Kate. I hope she’s embarrassed, to the max.

    • L4frimaire says:

      How Trumpian of her. Next they’ll be screaming Fake News! Think about the timing during a pandemic that is no where near over, political unrest, and their own governmental scandals. They need to shut up and take their medicine.

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      They want it to be pulled cos it implies the affair. And this isn’t trashy tabloid; it’s a magazine that has access to these societies.

      Maybe Tatler kept the Rose thing quiet hoping for a quid pro quo and then when the palace denied access to Kate for an interview they thought – fuck it!

  20. Sofia says:

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

    Will Tatler back down, apologise and take the issue down online? It’s already available in stores so Kate can’t really do anything about the physical copies. Could do that since they’re no longer promoting the story in their royal section online.

    Or will they hold their ground and say no? Because doing so would lessen Tatler’s “credibility” as an “inside source” into the aristos. Plus it’ll give Kate bragging rights in her circle (“I got your magazine to apologise!”) which is not (I’m presuming) what aristos want. This means a potential escalation into a lawsuit.

    Either way, no matter what happens, the aristos aren’t going to forgive her for even threatening to sue “their” magazine. And if she thought they hated her before… well she’s got another storm coming

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Very good point and it makes me question the nature of the Duchess of Karen’s friendship with Richard Denen. I have a theory that she may have done something to upset him or he needed the sales and was willing to throw her under the bus. Getting Anna in to write the story lends it some credibility although a broken clock can also be right twice a day. I almost feel sorry for the keen one as she has no friends and is always reportedly tightly wound, But then she deserves every bit of karma coming her way for her mean girlness towards Meghan.

    • A says:

      Yeah, but threatening to sue the Tatler, for this piece, is basically Kate and her family hitting back at the aristocrats who dissed her. All of those quotes came from the posh crowd, there’s absolutely no doubt about it. By threatening to sue, she’s basically setting herself up against them, big time. Which probably isn’t going to endear her to those people but w/e, I guess.

      • xo says:

        William would be the one deciding to move forward with the threat of legal action.

  21. Talie says:

    The dailymail also had a companion piece by Emily Andrews where she confirms that LaineyGossip blind from years ago about Kate not giving Meghan a ride was also true. I’m definitely here for all the tea to come out, but I do think if this is all to “head off” Finding Freedom…they might be spinning their wheels a bit. I highly doubt the book is going to be as loud and controversial as royal reporters and Kenginston Palace are expecting.

    • S808 says:

      I don’t think so eithet but they’re obviously nervous and that alone tells me they’ve been horrible to Meghan. This book isn’t even her words— why so nervous?

      • blue36 says:

        For this reason alone I want them to tell the truth of what she faced, gosh William’s a Jerk

    • Ginger says:

      Did you also see the part where they were having a private memorial for Diana and Harry asked Meghan to come. She flew out to London to attend but William said it would be inappropriate for her to be there. But 10 years prior it was fine for Harry to bring Chelsy and Will to bring his girlfriend for the memorial they had for Diana.

      It was such an awful thing to do to Meghan. Her and Harry were already talking marriage at that point. They never accepted her.

      • Molly says:

        You don’t resort to such behavior unless you’re trying to feel in control in some way. I think the family understood they had lost their control of Harry once he met Meghan and the nastiness began behind the scenes.

        I also think Harry has a lot of unhealthy acceptance and sympathy for his family’s behavior. I think what he cared most about were Meghan and Archie not being used by the family to deflect from their behavior but might have been willing to accept it if it were just happening to him.

      • Mary says:

        @Ginger, maybe they used a bizarre excuse like Kate not wanting Meghan around her kids. I remember a story around that time how Kate did not want Meghan around until they were engaged. Also, if true that Charles Spencer, at Williams request, told Harry to slow things down with Meghan (at said memorial?) that would explain his absence from christening photos and no reports of his visiting Archie (unlike his sisters).

      • Ginger says:

        @Mary I have heard that neither William or Harry is close to Charles Spencer so I found that part odd. I heard Harry invited one of Charles’s ex wives to his wedding AND she was invited to the evening reception and he wasn’t. But if that part is true. It does explain his absence at the christening.

      • xo says:

        Listen, Meghan was an AMERICAN ACTRESS with an INSTRAGRAM account who was obviously set on self-promotion.

        Of course William would have been cautious about her.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles Spencer ran out on his second wife after she had just had their baby. He can’t preach about relationships to anybody. I doubt william has much to do with him.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles Spencer ran out on his second wife after she had just had their baby. He can’t preach about relationships to anybody. I doubt william has much to do with him.

      • Tessa says:

        William had no right ordering his brother around? Both of them are equal in the sense that Diana gave birth to both of them.

      • Babz says:

        @Ginger, I would bet money that William’s refusing to allow Meghan at the memorial service was the beginning of the fallout between the brothers. First of all, I’m not sure why William assumed he was in the position to allow or not allow. Secondly, I would assume this was in 2017, on the 20th anniversary, so by that time it was serious between H&M. Engagement rumors began at Invictus in September, after all, and that would only have been a month after the memorial would have happened. To tell Harry the woman he was going to marry (and William had to have known that) was not invited just smacks of a bigger brother throwing his weight around, because he didn’t approve of his brother’s choice. Donning my own tinfoil tiara, I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out that William was active in the background leading up to the wedding, trying to derail it. Tom Branby hinted at terrible occurrences around the wedding, and it wouldn’t be a stretch of the imagination that a concerted effort was made to cancel it, by using Meghan’s dad and the other reprehensible family members on his side as well.

    • Chica1971 says:

      The reality is they cannot go off threatening to sue press everyt tme there is a negative story. I also think the bargain the Keens made with the RR and press will not hold up. Keens are public property and whatever bargain they made to hurt the Sussexes backfired because there is not enough they can do (sellout other family) to provide clicks ($$) so eventually the coverage will go rogue. Second, Keens no longer have an inside track to dish on Sussexes to rota. I say this because the constant stories about Sussex security/housing tells me Charles is not paying for it, at least not upfront so there are no details to leak. Botoomline, Keens are front and center like they wanted so its time to suck it up. They are not smart!

      • A says:

        The other thing is, they also largely collaborated with the press by feeding them negative stories about the Sussexes in one way or another. Either that was done through their staffers blabbing to the RRs, Carole, or through Will and Kate themselves.

        They knew that Harry and Meghan would receive little if no support from the palace regarding their press coverage, courtesy of William being the heir. I expect they thought they could use all the resources at their disposal for shutting down the press as they wish, given how well it’s worked in the past. But now that they don’t have H&M around to throw under the bus any longer, the focus is squarely on them with nowhere to hide. That’s their own fault.

    • Bella says:

      My goodness! That is so petty.

    • eb says:

      What time did Kate refuse Meghan a ride?

    • Nic919 says:

      That blind came out in 2016 prior to it being officially confirmed that a Harry and Meghan were dating. I.e. before Harry’s letter to the media to stop being racist idiots. It was always very likely to be accurate because Lainey probably got it from Jessica Mulroney who got it from Meghan. Also it fits Kate previous behaviour toward all of Harry’s girlfriends. She was never welcoming to any of them and the tabloids always seem to make them look bad and partying all the time even though Kate was literally doing the same during the dating years.

      • xo says:

        Your timeline didn’t fit with my recollection so I checked.

        Harry’s statement (“Love Shield”) was issued on Nov 8th, 2016
        The blind came out in Feb. 2017

        [I have too much time on my hands.]

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      Wahhhhhh!!!!? How on earth did Emily manage to spin that one?

  22. taylor says:

    this is so pathetic. it’s not enough to have a majority of the world’s media fawning over you incessantly, you must also silence all snark and anything that’s not glowingly positive. swiped from the internet? get a grip.

    i’ve never thought less of her, in particular. though i was repulsed by both her and will after the flybe stunt. im so so happy meghan has left this family. i can’t imagine her having to live in their mediocre and insecure shadows for the rest of her life.

  23. ZsaZsa Fierce says:

    Whatever happened to ‘Never complain. Never Explain’?

  24. starryfish29 says:

    bU..BU..BuT WHy dO tHeY HAte tHe fReE PrESs?

  25. S808 says:

    So tightsgate has morphed into lenghthgate. It’s STILL bullshit. The hem of her bridesmaid dress was longer than the hem of dresses Kate has put her in. And longer than hem when she was in Eungine’s wedding party. If they can’t come up with a plausible excuse, they should stop harping on the story.

    Love seeing the tables turn. This is horrible timing Kate! Stop trying to censor the media! Every royal woman goes through this, you crumble after 1 less than savory article? You’re unsuitable, William should’ve married an aristo, tsk tsk tsk. I thought the drama had left, but lo and behold.

    • February Pisces says:

      The change in story goes to show that KP are clutching at straws and keep going back to the drawing board to create faux-rage. Tightsgate didn’t take off as they hoped, but they are desperate to villainize Meghan. My guess in kate was crying cos her husband is a cheater and her BIL who she’s always trying to flirt with was marrying a woman who outshines her.

      • Babz says:

        I think there was lots of angst on Kate’s part about Harry marrying. I think it would have been true of whomever he chose, but Meghan wasn’t something she bargained for. She was gorgeous, glamorous, smart as all hell, ready and anxious to work, and – the biggest shock of all – she and Harry were madly in love with each other. That’s a pretty damaging mirror to put up to your own life at that moment, and Kate didn’t cope well at all. Especially if she knew about the cheating stories, and the brother-in-law she leaned on wasn’t available to act as her own personal shoulder any longer. The FFQC was not a happy woman about all those developments, and it’s not a huge stretch to see her behind, or at least heavily involved, in the smear campaign towards Harry and Meghan.

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      I always knew that the truth would come out… but I thought it would be a good 20/30 years away when you watch documentaries looking back.

      I did not think all this would come out so soon!

  26. agnes says:

    Kate didn’t seem that shy in the Waity Years, when she was throwing herself regularly in front of the cameras.

    But what do I know…

    • Babz says:

      I don’t think she did, either. I think choosing the word “shy” to describe her wasn’t the right choice. She’s someone who has completely molded herself to fit what she believes a royal duchess to be, and has lost all sense of herself. There’s no personality, no authenticity, no spark that indicates who she is. She is the proverbial blank page, upon which any projection can be made. The correct words to describe her would be “empty shell,” but since they couldn’t say that, they settled on “shy.”

  27. Maria says:

    I think they are right to sue. There were things in that article that certainly went too far. Kate may be thin but to suggest that she might have an eating disorder is just plain wrong. She has no proof, she is just throwing it out there, and people will believe it. We don’t really know what happened at the wedding, just like we don’t really know anything else. They are private people and unless they give an interview themselves, we can just keep on guessing.

    • Anon says:

      LOL at they’re private people!

      Wasn’t it a case of royals are funded by the public so they have to tapdance when ordered and how awful it is to sue the media for Harry and his family ? Well, the same applies here, otherwise the Cambridges are just hypocrites, right?

    • carmen says:

      Would they be suing for factual inaccuracies or because they simply don’t like what was written about them? As for the eating disorder – only a doctor can make a clinical diagnosis, but with Kate, the writing has been on the wall for years. After starving for her wedding, she has been at a skeletal weight for years and has only appeared healthy when pregnant. She is not at her natural weight and is seldom seen eating in public – remember the visit to western Canada?

    • Blue36 says:

      On what basis though? Defamation suits are hard to win. They didn’t explicitly say she had an eating disorder, it’s implied. You know what’s stupid though? Their refutal of the crying story still attempts to make Kate look like a victim and Meghan as a villain – they want that storyline to continue. PATHETIC. One article and the woman can’t take it, the palace came out swinging, compared to what Meghan had written about her (and still is) this article is pretty mild. At least the white one wasn’t attacked when she was pregnant like Meghan was.

    • Lizzie says:

      Nope, the article does not say she has an eating disorder. It says she is perilously thin, which is a subjective comment they have every right to make.

    • Becks1 says:

      They actually aren’t private people though. They’re as public as it gets, in that the public supports them. And that certainly means they are going to be subject to snark and criticism at times.

      This isn’t an article sharing private emails or letters, it’s not an article giving out personal information about the kids teachers or the household staff, it’s not an article publishing unauthorized pics of their backyard etc.

      For the future future king and his wife, this article is pretty mild and honestly, they should expect more critical articles as time goes on.

    • Nic919 says:

      There is no basis to sue because the papers said mean things about them. If there was then Meghan could have launched a hundred lawsuits by now. Meghan can’t even go after them for the racist stuff they have said. Nothing in that Tatler article even gets close to how Meghan has been attacked. And the only lawsuit happening currently is because of the copyright breach relating to the letter.

    • L4frimaire says:

      They are funded by the taxpayers, so they can’t demand privacy. Isn’t that what the press said about the Sussexes? Don’t the Cambridge’s get a larger share of tax dollars and are future heads of state as well? They should be more accountable for their conduct then the 6th and line and his wife, don’t you think? Are they going to sue the magazine for libel, because of some gossipers that think she’s a lazy complainer and her mothers awful? How is that something to sue over? Do they want those people on the record? They can sue, but they can lose that suit as well.

    • damejudi says:

      Again, if Kate really wanted to turn this around, she could address the comments about her weight directly. She could sit down with a sympathetic interviewer for a puff piece and say she’s never had an ED diagnosis, but she’s lost weight from stress or to look her best as someone who is photographed all of the time.

      Or she could say, she HAS struggled with an ED, and she’s now prepared to go public with that struggle in order to lead and help others.

      Be direct. Be clear. Be genuine. It might work.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Yeah. But that would take actual effort and she’s already exhausted. Besides, the last royal interview, I.e., Andrew, didn’t exactly go as planned. I think the royals have had enough of Kate and Carole talking and will put their attack dogs to work.

  28. kellebelle says:

    It’s okay for every goddamned tabloid in Britain to bash Meghan for what now, four years? Yet one article that basically speaks the truth is met with threats and possible legal action? Laughable, just as laughable as their reaction. These two entitled do-littles expose themselves more and more every day. Kate’s “shy” now, is she? Nauseating. It totally backfired on them and I am loving it.

  29. CindyP says:

    So, Meghan made Kate cry, not because of tights, but because of the length of Charlotte’s dress?
    Who thinks that makes her look better?

    • Anon says:

      Kate likely thinks that makes it better, but if it doesn’t there wil be another version of the events, and another and another, until they find one that sticks….

    • Babz says:

      If she didn’t like the tone of the article, how in the world can she possibly think that the “Meghan made Kate cry” story is in any way complimentary to her?? It makes her look weak and petty as all hell, which is exactly how people are taking it! I don’t know why they refuse to let that story die, but it seems a strange hill to die on. They are winning no points for that one.

  30. Becca R says:

    I would just like to point out that Harry & Meghan never mentioned a lawsuit publicly until the papers were filed. Charles never did that either when he sued the DM for publishing his journals.

    The rest of the press didn’t learn about their lawsuit until the filing, yet the Cambridges showed their hand before ever filing a claim?

    Smells like theater to me.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      It’s bullying. It’s one of the tried and true tactics of the Cambridges when dealing with a story they don’t like. They pulled the same exact trick last year when the Rose rumors started to get too hot. Funnily enough Emily Andrews, who wrote the Fail article about Kate’s legal action, talked about being bullied into submission by Will’s legal team a few years back. This is their usual “strategy” for getting the media in line. Whether Tatler stands firm or eventually succumbs will be interesting to see.

    • Nic919 says:

      It’s similar to the approach they use when they announce that they are going to be keen this year, but it never pans out. The lawsuit isn’t happening. It would have been issued by now. The article has been printed and distributed and the barn door is open. They are making thins worse with these vague threats.

    • February Pisces says:

      They are not gonna sue, I don’t understand how they can sue just because they don’t like it. What laws have been broken? Meghan sued the MOS because of copyright laws. She wasn’t able so take action against all the daily hate she got. They are just making a whole lot of noise to prove a point cos there’s no case here.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I’m sure Tatler and CondéNast ran this by legal as well. Anyway, announcing their intention to sue gives the magazine time to lawyer up as well. The thing with the Sussexes is that they have seen the absolute worst of the British press from day one, and knows exactly who they’re dealing with and their BS. KP have been handled so much with flattery and kid gloves that they have no idea how to deal with a bit of snark and mockery. Also it was such a shallow article because the subject matter is shallow.

  31. Molly says:

    Stiff upper lip, Kate!

    The Cambridges are the epitome of born on third base but think they hit a homerun.

    They’re not brilliant with the media or intimidating or respected. It’s that everyone pulls their punches with them. Because of the Queen, because of Charles, because of having other people to attack, because if you do too much too quickly it kills interest in the subject.

    Let’s be real. These are the Cambridge excuses. They pretend it’s about the children and simultaneously insist they’re working very hard. They are always the dutiful martyrs but where are the results? So, did this article put a pin in these excuses? Are the new excuses about anxiety for William and shyness for Kate? And if you criticize them, you don’t respect their mental health?

  32. lanne says:

    The royal family has a serious branding problem right now. They have bullied out their best ambassadors due to racism, and there’s a clear, definitive difference in tone in the way the royal palaces respond to Kate’s bullying and meghans. A journalist needs to write a story comparing the palaces tones in response to Kate and Meghan in the media. It’s a stark difference that highlights the racism they likely showed to Meghan in the palace. Does a royal family with a nonwhite commonwealth want to align themselves with the racist crowd? Is that what they will represent in Brexit England? Is anyone over there thinking about their long term viability or is it just willies popularity games running the show? When will Charles show some leadership? This is his chance to start to direct what a post Queen monarchy will look like. They need to be a united family if they want a future. Charles needs to pull William in line, create a space where the Sussexes can be royals away from William, and prepare to exile Andrew. Right now they look petty and small, and this Tatler business shows that no one’s minding the brand. It’s fun to watch, but it’s bad for brand royal in light of the discrepancy shown toward the duchesses. Falling back on white woman tears tropes is pretty ridiculous as well. There’s a British royals In the 21st century thesis waiting to be written, as well as many a think piece. I’m thinking it’s over 10 years after Betty dies. Thats my 10 dollar bet right now.

    • Harla says:

      I agree Ianne, the whole world has seen the royal family’s treatment of Meghan and how they allowed her to be abuse and harassed on a daily basis. I really don’t imagine that citizens of Commonwealth countries are happy with what they’ve seen their head of state ignore and trivialize. Once the Queen passes, I think we will see the Commonwealth break up or at least be pared down to just a few countries, the Queen’s fathers legacy is toast.

      • Islandgirl says:

        Their slip is showing. When the BM was terrorizing Meghan the RF remained silent. In fact the media itself explained that the RF does not respond to stories because it means that what you don’t respond to is seen as the truth. They said that the stories were coming from the courtiers and apparently they could be trusted to tell the truth.
        When Meghan and Harry left it was….they needed to stick it out and be more like Kate who has had “horrible articles written about her but kept her head down and kept working”.
        So exactly what is happening here….are the friends and sources and courtiers lying. Why aren’t Kate and William taking it, keeping their heads down, continuing to work and ignore this article.
        They don’t seem to realize what every one looking on can see…they are such hypocrites.
        Well welll well!

    • Bella says:

      Everything you say is spot on, but they are all just too shortsighted, or too afraid of the skeletons in their closets, to see what a wonderful opportunity Meghan represented. Accepting her and making a stand against racism and bullying could have bought the institution another 100 years. But now?
      We will miss her official appearances dreadfully but she’s better off out, so is Harry. More fool the RF.

  33. Becca R says:

    Also, how is Kensington Palace “declining to comment” when the Daily Mail claims they have a “palace source”?

    Also, “stuff writing about Pippa” instead of “things written about Pippa”? Interesting.

    • Anon says:

      Good call about weird use of “stuff” . This is a tell that will probably link to whoever is the palace source, for insiders that happen to know the person who speaks like that.

    • Pardi says:

      Now we’re believing Daily Mail and “palace sources”?

      • Lush says:

        Will and Charles have both backed initiatives with the DM. The courts that represent Will and Charles are definitely colluding with the DM and Sun.

      • Babsorig says:

        @Pardi, when haven’t you ever?

  34. Izzy says:

    The palace seems to be doing their unintentional best to keep this Tatler piece in the spotlight. I guess they never heard of the Streisand Effect.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yes, and the outlets covering this little drama are repeating everything in the article, ensuring that people at least get the gist of what Tatler is putting out there. William and Kate are many things; intelligent is certainly not one of them.

    • Lush says:

      It’s to stop people from talking about Andrew and Epstein.

      The Queen paying off a 7 million dept for Andrew should be the main story. Betty is out right protecting Andrew’s pedo connection to Epstein.

  35. Lizzie says:

    Thank you KP and your hysterical response for keeping this story front and center.

    The best response would have been none at all OR a shrug and a statement that this comes with the job but W&K aren’t worried about a magazine article when there are much bigger problems right now. Rise above it? No. This is the most thin skinned couple.

  36. Rae says:

    Hypocrisy 101.

    However, something is up. I absolutely think that Tatler is buckling and is going to give into their demands. As much as I would hope that they didn’t, I don’t think they are going to come out fighting.

    One good thing out of this: anyone trying to bash Meghan for suing the press, and being too fragile to handle criticism, will have this evidence smacked in their face of how much bullshit that line was in the first place.

    • Sofia says:

      I agree. The fact that Tatler has removed the story from their royal section means they might back down.

      I wish they didn’t, like you said, because it’s about time somebody put these two in their place.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Let’s wait and see. Tatler did that several days ago. Kate wants the article off the internet; as of now, it’s quite easy to search and access it. This is the aristocracy’s favorite magazine that she’s going up against, so they *might* not be as inclined to bend the knee like the rest of the British media. The rebuttal by Tatler indicates as much.

      • Sofia says:

        I know what you mean @Beach Dreams. But this could end up with Tatler having to reveal their sources in court which could end up “ruining” the “exclusivity” of their magazine.

        But no matter what happens: the damage is done. Tatler got their insults in. Even if the article is pulled from the website, it’s still out in the print edition and screenshots have been taken. And with the threat of legal action, the aristos will now never like Kate.

        Tatler could decide it’s not worth the exposure because like I said, the damage is done. The article achieved its purpose of insulting Kate and her family.

        Like I’ve said, I hope both parties take this all the way. But I’m not holding my breath for it

      • L84Tea says:

        I bought the issue on my kindle, so I will happily read it FOREVER. 🙂

    • Molly says:

      Tatler already got their win. They humiliated Kate and put her firmly back in her place. They won’t get anything from fighting with William.

      Imagine mocking someone, getting the reaction you wanted, and insincerely stopping to make the whole thing go away. The effect still remains. You still managed to get to the other person. Why complicate your life by continuing to fight with them?

      • Becks1 says:

        Plus, the issue is out on newsstands. Taking it down from the internet may make Will and Kate feel better, but it won’t stop the article from being passed around the “smart homes” of their friends.

      • L84Tea says:

        I agree, they won. Even if it gets removed today, it was already out there, reported on, and the toffs and everyone else are already snickering about it over their tea and coffee. Issues are on stands and available for purchase online–I bought the issue on my kindle for just a few dollars and it’s now stored there permanently. W&K can try to remive the stain, but the tea has already been spilled.

      • Babz says:

        Can you just imagine what it will be like, the first time Kate has to face the Turnip Toffs since the article – knowing now how they truly feel about her (and possibly William), but not knowing exactly which of them spoke out against her? Knowing that they see through her, and always have? And knowing beyond the shadow of a doubt that they closed ranks against her and supported Rose? I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall for that meeting. Talk about separating the weakest impala from the herd…

  37. Carrie says:

    Certainly seems that Kate is a total bitch. Given all the shit that Thomas Markle and the rest of the Markle clan were putting Meghan through one would have thought there would have been 150% support from the royal ‘family’ for Meghan during that time. But no. Mediocre family. 1 castle and Swiss chalet away from trailer trash.
    # Karen5questionCEO
    #I will fly supplies but not this year don’t mention the affair Bill

  38. MissM says:

    Their was a tidbit from the Richard Kay denial that pretty much sums up why Kate and William are threatening Tatler and not the numerous other publications that have written negative pieces about her- Tatler is the official magazine up the British upper class. Kate is horrified that the magazine read by her aristocratic “friends” ruins the illusion by talking about her being a social climber. She doesn’t want them having that sitting around their country estates.

  39. Just A Thought says:

    I noticed that they did not issue a defense of the H&M piece of the article – very telling. Their actions are so ridiculously transparent and further prove their inability to lead or even to be decent human beings. No real leader “never puts a foot wrong,” in fact usually quite the opposite. Kate had a lot of input into this article – the William pieces reflect her own insecurities as I’m sure he continues to have affairs, but if she’s so afraid of being cast aside why not put on her big girl pants and make the first move? Good for Tatler for standing their ground, at least initially. I hope the press starts to leak receipts from the Meghan smear campaign.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yes, I believe the article even stated that Kate had no worries about the crying claims. It shows how comfortable she is with having Meghan thrown under the bus at her expense. In fact, this really should be the clincher for the notion that she has been a major and active participant in the smear campaign. Nothing about the past few months should leave any reasonable person to think she’s merely a passive beneficiary. Anyone who does is just being willfully gullible (at best) at this point.

      • Shelley says:

        Exactly! She acted HORRIBLE at that CW service. No telling how she is behind closed doors!

      • Nic919 says:

        Bitchface at a church service is very low class and definitely not the stiff upper lip they expect from the aristos. And what would that have been for anyway? Not being in a procession.
        Kate’s pettiness was there for the world to see.

  40. rawiya says:

    What losers. Also, what about the ~~~~~OPTICS~~~~~?? (since the Cambridge fans like throwing that word around so much) We’re in the middle of a global pandemic. In North America, police are murdering black men and women ON CAMERA with no care in the world. People are protesting the end to police brutality and discrimination. There are wars in Yemen and Syria. Heck, there’s even a drought in Belgium.

    And the DoLittles want to sue because they said Willy is in love with his mother in law and Karen is tired.

    Read the room, idyuts!

  41. Awkward symphony says:

    Notice how NONE of the tabloids or talk shows are discussing this. I think it depends on what move tatler makes. If they domt back down it’ll be the one who leads other into ignoring the legal warnings (which really is just a request) because this constitutes within their freedom to report & publish stories. The only thing a lawsuit against tatler will result in is the naming of the friends & insiders who spoke up but it will never get to that because the mag will claim that they were happy with flattering pieces or those attacking Meghan so why now? I hope the lawsuit happens so they leak their past correspondence with courtiers/palace staff

  42. Marjorie says:

    Meanwhile, George’s godfather Hughie Grosvenor, 29 year old Duke of Westminster, has given over $15 million to COVID19 aid and research. So far.

    • blue36 says:

      Isn’t he also closing down some homes so he can build luxury flats and shops?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes he’s trying to throw nearly 150 people out of those flats so he can redevelop and make another billion. Accused of social cleansing as part of it. He also dodged billions in inheritance tax through a complicated trust scheme.

  43. aquarius64 says:

    Karma has come to KP. That Tatler article basically announced to the world Kate and the Middletons were never respected by the aristos; they aren’t now and they never will be even with Kate as queen consort. The Middletons are seen as the cleaned up version of the Markles. The TT may have connections with people in other industries and can bring receipts that can hurt House Cambridge:

    The Middleton family business Party Pieces has struggled financially
    Royal Foundation funds may have been used to bail out Party Pieces and maybe
    brother James
    William and Rose connection: Rose may not have been the royal sidepiece but may have known who could have been and Kate was aware, wrecking the wholesome family image.

    • Mary says:

      Are you saying the affair may have been with James?!

      • GuestWho says:

        It’s probably an allusion to W bailing out James’ marshmallow company.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The Foundation financials report should be coming out soon. How soon we don’t know, since two directors including the money guy quit in four months.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        I wonder what shade we will get this year from the auditors! Last year wasn’t pretty.

    • Eugh says:

      Nah Will definitely is/was rose trimming

  44. Pati says:

    Isn’t it a peculiar coincidence that this story is all over the place at the same time we were given a 4-episode exposé about Epstein and his predator friends, one of those being a certain royal?
    How convenient, non?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      It is, but definitely not intentionally so. If it were, Will & Kate wouldn’t be running around like headless chickens with numerous frantic rebuttals and threats of legal action. Those two are obsessed with their image, and Kate is obsessed with fitting in with the aristos. This article was nothing short of humiliating for both of them, and all their blue-blood friends will be reading it. I think (for once) this is truly a case of comically awful timing, rather than a deliberate distraction from Andrew’s mess.

    • Lush says:

      I am with you Pati. The article is unflattering but nothing new was really written.

      You could say the Cambridge’s are helping the monarchy protect Andrew/Epstein criminal behavior.

      • L4frimaire says:

        Do you honestly think those two would ever do anything to protect anyone other than themselves? This wasn’t meant as a distraction, but to glorify themselves. Even if this article hadn’t come out, they still wouldn’t be talking about Andrew over there because they are too afraid to touch it.

  45. Elisabeth says:

    What goes around comes around!

  46. HK9 says:

    The implosion at KP has begun.

  47. RoyalBlue says:

    and yet Tatler won’t print that the Queen is paying off Andrew’s debt. i question this and believe it’s a mere distraction to take the focus off the more serious issue threatening the monarchy.

    • Lush says:


    • L4frimaire says:

      Just because Tatler is exposing some of KPs dark underbelly does mean that they are a good or honest player in this debacle. They are still as shady and snobby as ever, and they still have no problem trashing and disparaging Meghan Markle, and will happily continue to do so. I think this was specifically to cock block Carole Middleton more than anything because she thinks her basic ass is now the power behind the throne. This is a fight between two Karens so not rooting for any of these losers.

      • Molly says:

        Absolutely. Expect another cover trashing Meghan.

        Like Lainey said it’s a fight between Karens.

      • Ruby_Woo says:

        Yeah, they were happy to call Meghan ‘social climber of the year’. But with Tatler, they do not give a fuck; they will shade everyone.

        And out of Meghan and Kate, only one of them really cares about Tatler magazine and the aristo circles… and the other one living her best life with her baby and man in the Californian sunshine.

  48. kyliegirl says:

    I think this whole incident makes it quite clear that the royal family does have power over media messaging. Must protect the heir at all costs. It is interesting that none of the articles mention the “apparent closeness” of Will to Rose as something they are upset about. THIS is what they are upset about. The last year has seen the royal family give Kate a bigger presence. Usually she was in the background to Will. Notice in the last PSA that they ended with Kate’s clip and not FFK? I think she cashed in some chips and threatened to make some changes. She and her family have craved for acceptance from high society. I think she drank too much koolaid and thought that she can do no wrong and this article was the crown jewel of acceptance so to speak. It may not be making the MSM rounds, but Kate doesn’t care about the masses. She said so in her engagement interview. She does care what the aristocracy thinks and the message has been sent. They don’t care. She is NQOCD (Not Quite Our Class, Darling). Be careful what you wish for. It can be quite lonely at the top.

  49. pierre lecouteur says:


  50. lili says:

    I wouldn’t put it on Kate because the Palace is threatening and we know how little power Kate has.
    I wonder though.. why do this.. This petty article would be forgotten but now it blew up. I don’t get it at all. Anyone

    • Mary says:

      My best guess is that it is a ploy to distract from something else.

      Another possibility: the article does contain some truths that the Cambridges want buried amongst a general, angry denial.

      E.g., I imagine many a Toff were cackling today over their Sunday roast about the bit about the channeling psychic. It is one thing to see a psychic for a lark but to see one that “channels”? Who was William talking to? His dead Mummy who herself was mocked for seeing psychics? Maybe he does not want more info about this coming out.

      • lili says:

        Distraction is a good guess. Like Epstein and Andrew again.
        Also it’s a sign of toffs. To be honest aristo crowd is terrible. She is a duchess, future queen consort and she is still middle class to them and that’s the worst offence in their book. William’s position giver Kate nothing. Aristos are born, many of them stupid.
        I wonder how Kate got close to William due to her connections since his crowd will never accept her?

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      It mentioned Rose.

      There has been an absolute code of silence about Rose in the UK. The fact that not only does it mention her but also mentions her closeness with Will is enough.

      Meghan was supposed to be then uncouth trashy Hollywood diva. The Cambridges are the anti-thesis. They were dying for something sleazy to come out about her. If her name was on the Epstien flight logs, the RRs would be shouting from the roof tops.

      All the Cambridges have is their traditional conservative family brand. And a lot of their support comes from Meghan haters.

      And after Charles’s treatment of Diana, and Andrew, they cannot deal with anymore sleaze.

  51. Lizzie says:

    Every statement about Kate is about what she wants, to be Queen, full time mom, but never anything about wanting to do good for others. She fumes at extra charity work. No reports of her wanting to be sure children are fed or people loosing jobs due to Covid making ends meet. Kate only thinks about Kate and her small world revolves around Kate. It’s taken me a few days to realize this is the most important part of the Tatler article.

  52. Priscila Bezerra-Fischer says:

    To which point Kate, who already given William, a heir, a spare and a princess, is a shy, weak, meek, stay at home woman who in reality can barely juggle a part-time job with raising three kids with enough help and resources, is not really accepted into aristocratic circles, has no known friends outside her family, has held no real job, took years to learn how to speak in public, has to pay a legion of journalists to spin her inadequacies into qualities, is two years aways from turning forty, has a philandering, white mediocre husband whose behaviour has been described as ” incandescent with rage” , is so thin-skinned that threatens to sue magazines over what should have amounted to a rumour, and is canonically known as to not canonically enjoy her as a person, is worth fighting for?

    No matter if this article is Kate being stupid and having it blown on to her face, or it was an efforst of the Toffts to put her in her place, or a similar move from Charles to put Willins in his place…the heart of the matter is that, if this type of report keeps on pilling up, I can see William leaving her behind in a years time.

    Kate´s job is to do less than Will, to make Will look better…her job is not to be called out by being barely an adult. I can see Will losing patience and interest if kate is no linger fullfiling their contract- again, he already has the heir, the spare, he can already walk away saying that he ” tried” his best, he can blame it on being with Kate for too long that he lost himself, that the stress of covid and the selfish sussexes and the media scrutiny drove them apart…oh , well these Windsors are very adept at spinning their failures.

    they will surely come up with something.

  53. Bella says:

    So sexism, body-shaming and mummy-shaming are bad now that Kate’s on the receiving end?
    Jog on.

    Hilarious that they think arguing about the exact length of Charlotte’s dress makes Kate look better. It’s even less believable than the tights story, which I am *now* sure is closer to the truth.

  54. Mtec says:

    I’ve always believed Cambridge stans can’t help being hypocritical, because these people they blindly admire are inherently hypocritical. They have no integrity.

  55. Agnes says:

    Any grown ass woman who lets Carole Bucket-Bouquet-Buckleberry decorate her house is definitely still an infant. Bet mummy told her to match her pantsuits to the color scheme also, omfg.

  56. Marivic says:

    Go Tatler. Tatler should have stood by its story and should have stood up to Kate and William. Why be afraid if truth is on your side?

  57. Liz version 700 says:

    I bet when it all comes out, Kevin and Karen were all piling on to try and stop the wedding. Get the DM to work up the father, have tantrums over tights, and Harry and Meghan just got through it all and then left them alone in the mess they created. What a farce.

    • Lizzie says:

      If true it is very disrespectful to TQ as she gave her blessing.
      Imagine any other person trying to sabotage a wedding. It would divide the family for years, as happened here. Will and his wife should have stfu.

  58. Jane says:

    I just read the Tatler article. Man, they managed to get everything in there. Then I looked up Rose Hanbury. In 2003 she posed for Tatler and she looked pretty damned great. They say when you age you have to choose either your face or your “assets.” Poor lady has lost both. Don’t know how these women don’t know that gaining 15 pounds would do them nothing but good.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The fact that Tatler managed to get EVERYTHING IN is probably what hurts the Duchess of Karen most. Anyone with half a brain can join the dots and voila Karen comes across as a petty, insecure, vindictive snob who deep down knows she will never be accepted by the aristos she sold her soul to be a part of. Now they all mostly tend to be lazy. But she doesn’t even try to pretend to care. That in the eyes of the British public is worse. Most of the time the public is indifferent to her but the pandemic has exposed the whole family’s uselessness. As she is a married in, fairly young compared to the rest and female, naturally scrutiny is now on her since she ran off her competition. She will now learn that getting rid of your competition does not make you an automatic shoo in for the all eyes on me role.

    • notasugarhere says:

      IMO Rose looks fine, and she has style and vitality that translate. That chic white dress and casual tiara wearing at the opening of Parliament was a solid look.

  59. Ina says:

    Karma the bitch Finally comes knocking at vacuous, lazy Kate’s door. Oh the schadenfreude.

  60. Jaded says:

    Well, well, well…what goes around comes around and we reap what we sow. I think Keen thought the Tatler piece would either subtly put down the Norfolk Nobs or at least show them that she’s as equal to or higher in social stature than they are, but it all blew up in her face. They’re probably raising a glass of champers and laughing their arses off over this peccadillo.

    • Lush says:

      “Norfolk Nobs”….snooorrttt!

      Those people are nasty though, it sure says a lot about Kate and the Middleton’s desperation to be included in that group.

  61. Flying Fish says:

    Truth is a defense to libel.

  62. Lizzie Bathory says:

    So the Cambridges are announcing plans to copy the Sussexes, but they’re never going to follow through? Business as usual.

  63. notasugarhere says:

    ‘The Duchess is a naturally shy woman who is doing her best.’

    An estimated 40 percent of the world’s population is made up of introverts. Funny how the rest of us still manage to do our jobs, raise our kids, earn our livings, pay our mortgages, do all the cooking/cleaning/house maintenance, and do the school run.

    ‘It’s ironic that the Royals’ favourite magazine is being trashed by them.’ Tatler is being trashed by the royals? Or the royals fav magazine, Tatler, is trashing the royals?

    This sounds like the same Palace spokesperson who didn’t understand ‘false misrepresentations’ = truth

    • Tessa says:

      Kate was there with her media campaign to win William back in 2007. It was embarrassing.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate was there with her media campaign to win William back in 2007. It was embarrassing.

  64. Elizabeth says:

    Anna Pasternak was quoted in the beginning of the magazine that Meghan & Kate had been treated by the press exactly the same but Kate was stoic and Queen-like while Meghan was a snowflake. I think it’s clear that there is only one snowflake in the British Royal Family and that is Kate. Tatler wrote an article basically calling Meghan a social climber and comparing her to the Duchess of Windsor but KP and BP said nothing. But if Tatler implies that Kate is work-shy and might be a little too thin, they threaten to sue? It’s clear there are double standards, one for the white Duchess and one for the biracial one. Also, I think hiring Anna Pasternak, the woman who wrote Princess in Love about James Hewitt’s affair with Princess Diana, should have been a clear sign that this was not going to be a puff piece.

  65. MA says:

    This is the best the the Cambridges have ever done, Meghan who?? I can’t believe we’ve had almost a week of gossip on this story, the gift that keeps on giving.

  66. Lily says:

    Kate is such a lazy idiot. And I bet she is still LIVID that Pippa got all the shine when she got married to William lol!

  67. Florence says:

    I hope this cracks Kate. I hope William casts her off and finds someone who will bother to work. I hope the Middletons slink off never to be seen again.

    Cry more Kate, you took one step too far and the aristos are as sick and tired of you as the taxpayers. Take your tacky clothes, your lazy behind and your inappropriate laughing off to the country and retire gracefully!

    • Jaded says:

      William’s just as bad, he’ll never find someone who “works” as it would highlight his laziness and stupidity even more.

    • Lush says:

      People need to stop putting these aristo’s on a pedestal. They are trashy, tacky and lazy bunch of elitism. The fact that Kate is eager to be seen as one of them says a great deal about her.

  68. Ginger says:

    Richard Dennen (Kate’s friend and editor at Tatler) posted an Instagram story of his dogs reading Tatler and it’s the latest one with Kate. Shade. Something definitely went down.

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Hah, just posted about that too, Ginger. He’s definitely trolling and I don’t think Tatler is going to be cowed as easily as Kate hopes.

      • Harper says:

        By threatening to sue, Will and Kate just sent thousands of clicks over to the Tatler website to check it out. And on a Sunday, when people have time to sit and read it. Wonder if their legal letter included a time frame –24 hours maybe?– in which to take it down or ELSE.

    • Becks1 says:

      I feel like that was basically his way of saying “COME AT ME BRO!!!” (With Bro = Kate Lol)

    • Nic919 says:

      The trolling by Dennen is beautiful.

      • Elizabeth Regina says:

        Richard has the real tea on Kate. She forgot the saying ‘if he did it with you, he will do it to you’ They both participated in the attempted Meghan take down. Richard knows how badly Kate wants to be seen as the perfect one whilst being so far from that. I actually expect more leaks and more tea to be spilt as he knows where the bodies are buried. If I were Kate, I would keep my mouth shot.

      • Ginger says:

        I saw a cryptic tweet a couple of days ago that said Tatler WILL write about the affair but they are saving it for when they really need it and not a minute before.

      • February Pisces says:

        @ginger yes trust me that affair is going to come out big time. But it’s too soon, there needs to be a lull. Also the press needs to milk as much as they can out of the Cambridge’s before they go dry. Whilst they have the affair card in their back pocket, the threat of using it will be held against them.

    • DownUnderReader says:

      Interestingly on the Tatler Instagram there is a side by side if Diana and Karen in an identical outfit except colour – very pointed.

      But even more so in their best dressed story – lots of gorgeous aristos and models and Megan in her stunning navy sequined Roland M formal dress as well as Letizia and Camilla – 17 photos in all…. but nothing on Karen as best dressed.

  69. Vanessa says:

    This is karma for the Cambridge’s we all know that their a double standard when it’s comes to Meghan and Kate the press was allowed by the palace and the Cambridge’s to fully go after Meghan the press went after her it way that hasn’t been seen before . The Cambridge’s and the courtiers leaked stuff to the press constantly about Meghan and Harry the Cambridge’s didn’t even stop even when Meghan was pregnant. That’s when I knew how truly evil the Cambridge’s were they both knowingly and actively were involved with the press harassment of Meghan they helped the racist press go after a pregnant woman for no reason . Another then jealousy one article that made kate looked about bad her and William started threatening to sue people but Meghan and Harry were supposed to continue to be bullied it the most disgusting way . It’s funny for all the talk about how the Cambridge’s being strong and never explaining about bad press especially Kate she made out to be so tough and the never putting a foot wrong the moment she gets bad press she flip outs notice how she still trying to make Meghan look bad first it’s was the tights now it’s the length of the dress . Kate and her mother authorities this interview they thought the up class world finally accepted them so they thought they were safe that the magazine would make kate looked great and wonderfully and also takes shots at Meghan but they got more than the bargain for . The truth of what the upper class really thinks of the Middleton’s came out and now kate is embarrassing because she got caught red handed . I’m gladly that this piece came because so many people on here would defend kate constantly saying she just a innocent woman who follows her husband lead now people will see kate for what she is a jealous racist snobby woman who doesn’t care about anything but herself . Kate was just as involved in the smearing of Meghan and Harry just as William and the courtiers she love the bullying of a another woman and enjoy all the press praising her for nothing she couldn’t handle having someone who is beautiful smart compassionate and has a loving husband Meghan is everything kate will never been .

    • Eugh says:

      Classic “I never thought the leopard would eat MY face!”

      Your chase your media/tabloid chum off to America and are surprised when they come for you when there are no stories left? They are scraping the bottom of the barrel too like length of dresses?

  70. Beach Dreams says:

    Lol…Richard Dennen posted a photo of his dogs looking at the Catherine the Great issue with the caption “catching up on their tatlermagazine”. It’s an IG story shot though; you won’t see it on his IG page since he deleted all his posts. I don’t think Tatler will be quick to back down when the editor is making posts like that.

  71. Scorpion says:

    CDAN has just posted a blind about this today. They’re saying it’s an acquaintance of Meg who’s behind the article. I mean, that’s an interesting narrative, consider that Tatler is ran by aristos who loathe Meghan and have made it crystal clear. Why would they greenlight an article damaging to the Cambridges?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      CDAN routinely makes up stories and accepts submissions from anyone. I’ve seen people on celeb forums talking about how they’ve sent in fake stories for them to publish.

      Also, Tatler explicitly stated that Kensington Palace knew about the article. Why that’s being ignored is beyond me.

    • Jaded says:

      CDAN is about as reliable as a rubber crutch. Utter BS.

    • Sofia says:

      CDAN is fake and over sensationalises everything. They don’t have real “tea” and “gossip” so people have to stop pretending they do

    • A Guest says:


      Keen’s fans already tried this on Twitter. One of Jessica Mulroney’s sister-in-laws used to work for Tatler.

      So of course, Jessica got her to get Tatler, a magazine she no longer works for to write a bad story about Kate to avenge Meghan. This completely ignores the fact that Richard, the magazine’s editor could have killed the story. Or that the writer, Anna K., has never liked Meghan.

      The mental gymnastics on this one are most impressive.

    • Nic919 says:

      The stans also keep posting an old photo or Lainey having dinner with Ben Mulroney, Jessica, Meghan and Cory with a few others, and trying to say Lainey was behind the Tatler article. Lainey said she had met her that one time but didn’t really know her. Anyone who has read her website over the years would see that Lainey was not always pro Meghan and until the recently Tatler issue she was usually positive about Kate too.

      • ABritGuest says:

        That blind is a theory I’ve seen trolls pushing on SM. It just goes to show how these things circulate. Why didn’t this Mulroney contact call in favours when Tatler was calling Meghan social climber of the year& other hit pieces. Pasternak recently did a piece saying Meghan risks being less popular than Wallis- her interviews when Sussexit was announced made clear she despises Meghan.

        I don’t think Lainey is pro Meghan. She’s pushed that social climber, thirsty angle& went nuts over her bump holding. I think she’s a bit like Piers. Met Meghan previously and was hoping for more of an in& seems slightly bitter that she isn’t getting that tea.

        Whereas she always seemed deferential to the Cambridges& has only recently been pointing out KP’s possible involvement in media smears- probably because it’s too obvious to ignore.

      • L4frimaire says:

        They can post that Lainey photo but Lainey didn’t write the Tatler article. Her posts on it were interesting, but she was just calling out some pretty obvious flaws and f*ck ups. This was insider stuff, and don’t think a gossip columnist in Toronto has an inside track on this. The Kate stans are just going to have to focus on the main players in this thing. Also, where is the actual writer of the article in all this?

    • February Pisces says:

      I bet the comments are totally falling for it. I stopped reading CDAN when it was clear the Meghan bashing blinds were coming from KP. Why would she send them a story where she’s accused of pushing children ‘under the bus’ and making poor Kate ‘cry’. Seriously they are clutching at straws. I also saw some blinds right after the commonwealth ceremony where Meghan came back to the Uk and completely stayed in the looks and style department. Apparently Meghan is ‘so jealousy of Kate’s beauty’. Ha ha I lol for days reading that.

  72. RedWeatherTiger says:

    Did they think Kate crying over the length of the dress was a better story than Kate crying over tights? Kate just looks vapid and unsympathetic. The fact that they are rushing to take legal action NOW shows them to be the biggest, most vile hypocrites in the world (outside the GOP).

    I wonder if Kate & Will have even considered how all this drama must be upsetting Petty Betty?

    *Runs to Amazon to pre-order the Scobie book*

  73. paddingtonjr says:

    Were her kids compared to monkeys? Do people question the Cambridge kids’ development or make fun of Kate reading to them? No, that’s reserved for someone else. Tatler, from what I’ve seen, is frothy gossip, people’s thoughts and opinions and not actual fact. It’s the gossip rag you read for a life and with a glass of wine, all filler no substance. It’s the same sort of gossip the aristos and press seem to have been engaging in at least since the War of the Walses/South Pork days and probably longer.

    The threats of lawsuits only serve to prolong the story and give the aristos/press more ammunition. The Cambridges seem to have forgotten two important rules: (1) When the usual press buffet (the Sussexes) runs out, they will feed on the next juicy target (the Cambridges); and (2) the married-ins are disposable and the born Royals will always be protected.

    And as for the comment that Kate “is shy and doing the best she can”? She chased the wrong man. She grew up in the UK during the Diana years; if she was aware of the dark side of being royal, her mother should have. Kate has no excuse; she has dined out on being William’s gf and then wife for nearly 20 years. If she wanted the quiet, privilieged life of shy SAHM aristo, she wouldn’t have pursued William for so long.

    • Scorpion says:

      I understand not liking the Sussexes but the comments made about Archie everytime, a photo or video is released is absolutely heart breaking. He’s just a baby. Im glad he’s growing up in America, so he can develop his own personality away from the Royal BS.

      • paddingtonjr says:

        It was shocking to see how people attacked Archie from birth. I am also glad Harry and Meghan got him away from the toxic atomosphere. He seems like a happy, well-adjusted toddler and H&M seem like good, loving parents. I understand gossip about the Sussexes and Cambridges, but attacking a child is just cruel.

    • L4frimaire says:

      To say she’s shy and just doing her best makes it seem likes she’s struggling and not up to the job. Still doesn’t make her look good. And they really, really need to stop with the 2 year old wedding drama because it makes her look stupid, like ridiculously pathetic stupid, like get a life and get a clue stupid. If you want protocol, study up on diplomacy and good manners.

    • BeanieBean says:

      When she was first engaged, we heard about how calm & competent Kate was, how she handled the press attention with aplomb. Now she’s shy & doing the best she can. Huh. Sure, Jan.

      • MA says:

        She is “shy” and “just doing her best” but also simultaneously leading the monarchy, mentoring Harry an actual blood prince, and guiding the nation lmao

  74. Annalise says:

    Maybe I’m fooling myself, but I have this notion that although Richard Dennen may have been friends with Kate in the past, maybe even GOOD friends with Kate, I have this fantasy that he is actually a decent person who, like the rest of us fair and semi-intelligent folk, has been horrified by the smear campaign against Harry and Meghan. After all, being the editor of a gossip mag, he would especially understand just how complicit the royal family has been in all the false, vile stories put out there about H&M. And so, being already disgusted and horrified by all of it, he was made even MORE so when it was made apparent to him BY WILL AND KATE that they wanted the “Catherine the Great” piece to be yet another piece of the smear campaign. But he pretended to go along with it, which is how he probably DID go straight Rose Hanbury and her friends (who probably DID align themselves with Rose, unbeknownst to W&K) which is how he got all that great dirt and quotes from people who W&K probably TOLD him to talk to!!!! Freaking amazing!! All the while Kate is fully expecting the article to make her look like Mother Theresa and to make H&M look like the devil incarnate. Dennen brilliantly took advantage of W&K’s trust in him to get their approval and blessing to do the article (which he could truthfully refer to later) without having to show them the final product. What I wouldn’t give to have seen Kate’s face change from delightedly smug to confused to full blown panic!!! Maybe this is all just a fantasy, but really, it’s the only explanation to me that makes sense. What do you think?

    • Sofia says:

      Tatler, under Dennen, also called Meghan the “biggest social climber” of the year last year.

      He may not like Kate or he had his own agenda or whatever. But it was NOT to help Meghan

    • Lush says:


      Richard participated by giving his magazine the green light to trash Meghan.

  75. Liz version 700 says:

    After reading a helpful comment I also just purchased my own Kindle copy of Tattler lol

  76. Nic919 says:

    You really have to wonder what they think is in that book for them to even bother with an article like this. The many versions of the crying incident really makes one wonder what really happened.

  77. lili says:

    How badass would it be if Meghan openly supported Kate and they both issue a statement and/or sue? (One can dream and I know Meghan is a bigger person)!

    • AGreatDane says:

      Meghan is a bigger person, that’s why she left so Kate could have all the spotlight she wanted.

    • L4frimaire says:

      @Lili, why? When has Kate ever defended Meghan? When? Last I checked, she said Meghan threw her 3 children under a bus. Kate would rather get a glass enema than have Meghan do anything for her. This is none of Meghan’s business and its grossly unfair and disingenuous to expect her to say anything. This is between Tatler and KP. Do you expect any of the other Royals to issue a statement? Should Princess Anne come out swinging? Kate has the entire palace apparatus and the whole tabloid press defending her. I’m super offended you would even expect Meghan to be Kate’s janitor because she can’t handle one article that was specifically issued to further denigrate Meghan. Leave Meghan out of this. FOH, lol.

  78. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    The ARTICLE was “exist and woman-shaming”??? LOL. The ROYAL FAMILY is sexist and woman-shaming, AND protects a rapist. The ROYAL FAMILY should be sued for their lies, enabling, and protection of Andrew.

    • Mary says:

      I really don’t get how alluding to an eating disorder is sexist. It is not my understanding that ED’s are the exclusive bane of women. As I noted above, Dress Gate may be to cover up another issue or to cast doubt upon some truths in this particular article.

      We know that KP is sensitive about the eating disorder issue (Emily Andrews brought it up a long time ago and they threatened to cut off her access). Maybe this is what has really ticked Kate off (I think William would be pissed about the Rose and Psychic parts).

  79. Mary says:

    Am I the only one disappointed in Harry for attending the Althorpe memorial?

    • Shelley says:

      Well it’s no different from him attending Pippa wedding w/o Meghan. Although, I do wonder why they allowed her to attend the reception.

    • Ginger says:

      Why are you disappointed in Harry? What did he do? Meghan could have made him go. He could have refused and she made him. Be disappointed in William for refusing Harry’s serious girlfriend from attending a private event.

      If I were Meghan I would have made Harry go to a memorial that honored his mother.

      • Mary says:

        @Ginger, if you were Meghan you would have “made” Harry go to the memorial?! LOL

        Harry could honor Diana’s memory anywhere. If I were Meghan, I would have appreciated Harry’s standing up for me and against any “appropriate,” protocol or attention-diverting crap levelled at him by his racist and snobbish brother, uncle and friends.

        This had to have hurt Meghan’s feelings.

      • Ginger says:

        Yes, I would have made him go and I am sure Meghan made him go. You are outraged at Harry but I’m more outraged at William. He lost his mom at 12 and probably couldn’t bare to miss it. This was about honoring his mom that he lost and I’m sure she knew that.

        Of course you can honor anywhere, but that’s not the point .

      • Mary says:

        @Ginger, first, “disappointed” does not equal “outraged.” Second, what is your point? Harry couldn’t miss it? Miss what? Do you mean to say that standing at Diana’s grave, amongst family that were shunning Meghan, was the only proper way to memorialize Diana? If so, we just have to agree to disagree.

      • Ginger says:

        If Meghan was upset that Harry picked his mothers private memorial over her then I would be side eyeing her big time. Some things are just not about you. But, knowing Meghan, she asked him to go because it would be important to him.

        But yes, we will agree to disagree.

    • ABritGuest says:

      I get what you mean but assuming the story is true maybe the excuse given was memorial was for close family& friends only& they both decided that Harry should go ahead instead of pulling out, causing family drama&making their feelings central over the solemn occasion.

      I have far less respect for bothering to attend Pippa’s wedding reception if the reporting is true, invitation was reluctantly given. being a newcomer to the crowd she might not have wanted fuss made about an invite especially not knowing bride well or be blamed if Harry refused to attend altogether.

      • blue36 says:

        I always thought the reason the invitation was given was so that the Middletons would then get invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding? Technically there is no reason why Harry and Meghan needed to invite them in the first place, neither of them are close to any of them and are only linked to them because they are Kate’s family.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The Middletons are still angry Harry had the Palace issue a statement that he wasn’t seeing Pip. Carole’s machinations laid out flat and denied publicly by Harry. The Midds (and William) needed Harry to show up at the wedding to try to put those stories to rest. Harry may have agreed to go as an olive branch to his brother, to see how his brother would respond. And yes, I’m sure the Midds wanted an invite to Harry and Meghan’s wedding.

        The Middletons monetized Pippa’s wedding and honeymoon. Kaiser had columns about Pip doing pap strolls to show off freebie designer gear. The flowers, the wedding glass house, all of that was deep discounted in exchange for getting column inches written about it. The will-she-won’t-see-attend stories about Meghan likely came from the Middletons for that reason. They wanted to use her for their PR, but at the same time they wanted no photos of her there to distract from Pip’s monetizing photos.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Oh, please stop with the tumblr trope of this all being Harry’s fault. Attending a memorial service at his mother’s grave on the 20th anniversary of her death. He’s supposed to be wrong to do that, because his abusive older brother is a racist and didn’t like Harry’s girlfriend? William and Kate are the ones in the wrong here, not Harry or Meghan.

      • Mary says:

        “Tumblr trope”? All this “being Harry’s fault? Ratchet down the Drama, Queen. I just said I was disappointed. Harry could have made a stand and he chose not to. Of course his racist and snobbish friends are to blame for much of Meghan’s grief. But Harry’s just rolling over and taking it only served to enable them. Thank goodness he came to his senses.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Classic tumblr trope. Called out, claim to be a fan, and continue with the tumblr trope.

  80. Anna says:

    Where was their outrage when the press smeared M&H????

  81. aquarius64 says:

    Another thing Tatler could reveal: William gave the order to the rest of the BM to weaponize Bad Dad and the rest of the Markles. This plays to the class angle: Meghan comes from American trailer trash which makes her an unsuitable royal bride. Rolling the Markles out for hit interviews served to prove the point.

    The Queen has to be mad at this. The Golden Couple created a new scandal for the House of Windsor.

  82. Well-Wisher says:

    To add to what is already stated. This seems like a character sketch which started out in the form of a question. The writer then preceded to include the information from interviews with the varying sources that commented on her apperance, personality etc in the form of the relentless comparisons with varying individuals.
    She added her shrewd observations and finally her opinion. It seemed like her opinion of Kate differs from Kate’s opinion of herself.
    Not surprisingly.
    I found it interesting that no matter the circumstances the article stayed focused on the subject and did not waver on the revelations of Harry and Meghan, because it was about Kate’s perceptions about her self and (without meaning to) offered an explanation for the last 3 to 4 years reporting on the Sussexes.
    There leaking continues to the Daily Fail’s for the “Blame Meghan” agenda.

    An aside the article is the perfect excuse for William to the aristocratic class- should he chose to leave his marriage.

  83. IntheKnow says:

    The whole “Catherine The Great”, I am wondering why that title? Catherine the Great was more known for her affairs including having an illegitimate child than anything. She was seen as constantly plotting and scheming to overthrow anyone who was seen a competition (Meghan, Chelsea, Cressida and many more).

    Karen Cambridge needs to dust off some history books and have a read. Nothing about this is flattering at all.

    I think once the kids are old enough or not long after the queen dies, William will follow in his fathers footstep and divorce Karen Cambridge. And she wont be QC or even on of the Aristos so all that scheming will have been in vain.

    • betsyh says:

      Another meaning for “Catherine the Great” is because KP and the British media have been building her up to be the epitome of what a one-day queen should be. The aristos that were interviewed apparently don’t agree with the superlatives heaped on her.

    • Powermoonchrystal says:

      As an avid reader of history, I have to bring light to other areas where Catherine the Great got her moniker from. She was one of the enlightened despots, who brought education and the enlightment’s ideals to a court that at the time was considered backwards by all European standards. She also expanded Russia significantly. She was by no means a perfect or even good person, but to reduce her to a meangirl who slept around is to buy into the mysoginistic propaganda that would rate queens and empresses diferently than even their mediocre male counterparts. Considering how ignorant and mysoginist some of these aristocrats can be, I would not be surprised of they completly misused the monitor that way.

  84. Annalise says:

    If Richard Dennen hasn’t had a come-to-jesus moment and realized how wrong all the smearing of H&M is, then WHAT is his motivation for screwing over Kate with the article? Maybe a falling out between the two that no one knew about?

    • betsyh says:

      Money. Look at the attention this article has generated. I’m sure it’s leading to a great increase in sales.

    • A says:

      Richard Dennen is firmly part of the posh crowd. And all we know is that him and Kate were friends, in the same way Kate was friends with every other person in the posh crowd during the time she was at university up until now. It was those friends who were solicited for quotes in that article. So that gives you some understanding of what everyone actually thinks of her and what their friendship entails.

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      These toffs DO NOT GIVE A SHIT!!! Unlike the tabloids that use the Royals to sell copies (e.g. calendars of the Royal kids), and only turn nasty when they don’t get enough access to the RF (lots of complaints about Harry and Meghan not playing to their tune).

      Tatler does not care. They will trash everyone. Even Daily Mail admitted that their a society bible. Most regular women might buy Cosmo or Grazia or Glamour. It’s the toffs that get Tatler and they do not care!

  85. calibration says:

    I can’t imagine what they think they are going to sue over? It’s an opinion piece with unnamed sources giving opinions.

    However Kate was skewered in such a British way. It was a pretty entertaining read. It could have been titled the Duchess of Bland, how many times did they mention her non personality? and so much was made of the accent, so very funny.

  86. Emily says:

    The article comes down to “Kate has no personality.” I don’t see how they can sue over that.

  87. ChloeP says:

    I’m a Meghan fan but… I have a daughter the same age as Charlotte. At that age there is a high likelihood that during playful moments her dress might accidentally fly up. There were thousands of people present and anyone could have taken a shot of her in a vulnerable moment and gone on to expose her to thousands or millions of others online. I’d want a few extra inches on her dress too if she wasn’t wearing tights.

    • Molly says:

      Except Kate already had dressed Charlotte in higher hems with no tights both for official engagements (tour) and later for off duty events (polo) where Charlotte did cartwheels.

    • L4frimaire says:

      You realize this was two years ago and all of those girls have outgrown those dresses and probably barely remember that day? I honestly never gave a thought to the little bridesmaids dresses and this wasn’t even mentioned on H&Ms anniversary when everyone was reviewing the wedding, especially the gowns. Also if someone asks your kid to be in a wedding, you can accept or decline but you don’t get to dictate to the bride.

      • ChloeP says:

        But a photo of a three year old princess with her skirt up will live on the internet forever, regardless of whether she remembers the day or not? I’d like to think people wouldn’t go looking for that kind of photo but there are a lot of sick people. I’m sure meghan wouldn’t like the idea of that happening to Archie either. I guess I’m thinking of what I would do if people thought my child was public property and she will be in the public eye for her whole life. I would probably try to take back some control and minimise any opportunity for her to be potentially exposed where I could.

      • VS says:

        @ChloeP——-how that’s the new theory? I suppose her skirt couldn’t rise up at Eugenie’s wedding or any other royal adjacent wedding she has attended? those pictures wouldn’t have lived up on the internet forever somehow……….after all, it would have been at the white princess wedding! but at Meghan’s of course they would have stayed online forever……….considering her dress was shorter at Eugenie’s wedding, your mental gym is strong! you are good, there is no need to preface your post with “I am a Meghan fan” or whatever nonsense you could have come up with to cover the bile you were about to spew

    • blue36 says:

      The dresses of the bridesmaids were quite long already compared to the shorter dress that she wore on Eugenie’s very windy wedding day.

      • blue36 says:

        I understand if she got emotional over her request being denied because she was post-partum, but they keep bringing this story up to paint Kate as a victim and Meghan as the bully. First it was, “Meghan is bad because she didn’t follow protocol making Kate cry,” then it’s “evil Meghan made Kate cry because she didn’t extend the hemline of Charlotte’s dress.” Like come on, get over it. They are still trying to make this woman a victim when Meghan was dealing with her father’s antics on the public stage, where is the sympathy for Meghan? Or is that only reserved for Kate, the duchess who can do no wrong?

    • Elizabeth says:

      This happened to Louise on the day. Ugh. I genuinely feel for her. But, why do people keep wearing weightless little skirts on windy days? Someone give Kate and Sophie a clue.

      Dresses can have weighted hems, heavy fabric, tighter fits, or girls can wear undershorts. These people are so rich, they could easily take care of it if they wanted to. There are so many options other than having a rude and ultimately foolish fight with your new sister in law (to be).

    • Ruby_Woo says:

      If that was seriously the concern then why wasn’t it mentioned it by anyone years ago when all those MEGHAN MADE KATE CRY!!!! headlines came out.

      First it was the tights, then the hem line… eventually they’re going to try to paint Meghan as some kind of predator. None of the children were dressed inappropriately and to suggest otherwise shows how much these people will reach to make excuses.

      When the reason were tights, people were arguing that it was down to protocols and that not wearing tights would cause blisters – THE REACH!!!!

      I genuinely can’t tell the difference between the Meghan’s flower girl dresses with any other weddings, no one of a sane mind really cares. The only ones that obsess about these children so closely are the Royalists. The same Royalists who are fine with Andrew.

    • Becks1 says:

      Nah. That wasn’t it. Charlotte was at a polo match the next day, wearing a much shorter dress, with no tights, and was running around, jumping, etc. (the match where Kate is in the blue dress and Charlotte is wearing a short red one.)

      Those dresses were plenty long enough.

    • ChloeP says:

      @VS Was that really necessary? Yes, I prefaced my post by saying I am a Meghan fan — and I truly am. I hadn’t looked at any of the other bridesmaid dress pics because I took the quote in the article at face value. I also work in child protection and I viewed it through that lens, as I have any stories written about Archie. There was no “bile” spewed. No need to insult my intelligence because I made a comment contrary to your opinion.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Ah, I see tumblr has joined us today with the latest pro-Kate, anti-Meghan set of lies.

      Kate Middleton, who has flashed dozens of time on duty, was concerned about this mid-calf dress on her child? When the dress at Pip’s wedding was much shorter, and the later dress at Eugenie’s dress was shorter as well? If that was Kate’s worry? There was nothing to stop her from having her daughter wear a pair of white shorts under the dress. No one would have noticed.

      But Kate, who hasn’t worn a slip since she was 20 and flashed full frontal nude-to-the-waist arriving on an official visit, flashed her bare ass at the Gandhi memorial, was worried about flashing? The woman who showed up at Eugenie’s wedding in an attention-grabbing fuchsia dress, unlined, without weighted hem, without slip, and proceeded to flash the crowd. Sure Jan.

  88. MJM says:

    At the start of the year we had the 5 big questions survey and a flurry of engagements to promote it. I predicted that it would flop and quietly disappear without any follow through. Looks like my prediction came true. It hasn’t been mentioned since February because it was all a bs pr move following Sussexit. Beyond pathetic this woman is.

  89. Marivic says:

    Kate is never shy . No shy girl can parade in that skimpy clothing with the objective of attracting the next king Prince William. She probably looks meek because she doesn’t have much to say anyway . It’s a gaffe when she starts opening her mouth. She’d rather stay quiet for fear of humiliating herself. She’s better not heard.

  90. A says:

    The absolute nerve of these entitled aholes. It’s one thing to go after a tabloid like the Fail or the Dim. It’s a whole other thing to target the f-cking Tatler. The Tatler, the same magazine that hawks lists of $500 hand cream and gives you tips on how to cut costs at your drafty country pile when you have guests over. The same magazine that runs such lists as, “The Finest Moated Manor Houses in England.” That Tatler.

    This is who they want to fight? Really? Are they absolutely sure about this? Does Kate imagine that this will help endear her to the crowd she desperately wants to be a part of? Hasn’t she learned from the first time she tried to throw her weight around that these aristos don’t give a crap about her?

    I don’t think William is behind this. William got off pretty well from the whole appraisal and I don’t think he actually cares about the casual references to him wanting a mommy in Carole or consulting psychics. That was pretty damn tame. I think the rage is purely from Kate. Her anger is quite real, and it’s her own, and it’s the angriest she’s ever been. I can see why, homegirl thought she’d finally made it to the big leagues, and has to deal with her own “friends” turning on her like this. I can fully see her fuming as she circles different quotes and tries to figure out who said what.

    The retaliation in terms of threatening to sue if they don’t take the article down from the website though, that is probably from Carole. I feel like that has Carole written all over it. I don’t think she really cares about what they think of or write about her, she’s got the ability to deal with it and she’s been dealing with it for all these years. But the stuff about how Kate is unhappy in her role and unwilling to deal with an increase in workload threatens her daughter’s future. It makes her come off as incredibly ungrateful, profoundly spiteful, and not at all endearing or queenly. It’s the sort of behaviour that makes a country question why tf they need a monarchy if their own monarchs aren’t happy about it.

    I honestly think Carole is the one who prompted Will and Kate to do something about it, and they decided to do their tried and tested threats method. But this is the Tatler, it’s not any old tabloid. They’re pretty shrewd, and even if they buckle under the threats, it’s going to be some form of malicious compliance, I guarantee it.

  91. Scollins says:

    Had no idea PuttyFaceKate was so ignorant. What twats the Cambridge’s have turned out to be.

  92. Ruby_Woo says:

    Has anyone seen Richard Dennen’s Instagram?

    He was getting a lot of abuse from Cambridge stans and deleted all his posts.

    Then yesterday after there was talk about ‘taking legal action’ he posted a pic of his pugs in a pram reading the latest edition of Tatler with Kate on the cover, with a caption along the lines of ‘catching up on Tatler!’

    The trolling is *chefs kiss*

  93. lili says:

    My only issue is that Kate is the only one bad. Not William, lazy, entitled, couldn’t finish the studies, never worked for anything and he cheated on his wife. Nope, Katherine gets all the blame and even now it’s Kate vs Tatler, not the Cambridges as a team.
    I wonder who connected Kate with William since aristo crowd hates her no matter how high up she is.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Seeing as the article is about Kate and slams William as freakishly obsessed with his fake Mummy Carole? Take the Kate is a Victim trope somewhere else.

      Kate climbed her way through women on the outskirts of his set to get to him. That’s why the only ‘friends’ she has are William’s friends first. She used them as a means to an end, they know it, and in the end have no loyalty to her.

  94. Tashiro says:

    I cannot believe they are dragging this out. I didn’t read it but what are they so worked up about anyway. So some people said things they don’t like it comes with the territory. Move on, they’re supposed to be the future king and queen right? Act like it. I’m sure Bess has had a lot of shitty things said about her over the years.

  95. The Recluse says:

    I am always struck by how exaggerated Kate’s expressions are.
    She radiates insincerity as a result.

  96. Tashiro says:

    @February Pisces,
    “Poppa’s flat ass”
    LMFAO big time.