Kim Kardashian went to Wyoming to tell Kanye that ‘their marriage is over’

Kim Kardashian steps out of her hotel in Asian inspired top in NY

“Sources close to Kim Kardashian” have been talking to People Magazine quite consistently for the past two weeks, starting right after Kanye West’s “campaign stop” in South Carolina a few weekends ago. Because of those People stories, we know that Kim and Kanye were not in a good place even before his current manic episode, and we know that they were already talking about separation and divorce. I’ve been saying for months now that Kim and Kanye live separate lives and that their marriage only seemed to function when they were truly separated. Page Six confirms that Kanye absolutely sees Wyoming as his home and his base, while Kim has been staying in LA like always. Now People Mag has another story about how Kim is contemplating divorce because she feels trapped:

Kim Kardashian West and Kanye West’s future remains unclear. The couple reunited for the first time in person on Monday after Kardashian flew to Cody, Wyoming, to visit the rapper, whose behavior in recent weeks has been increasingly erratic, including divulging deeply personal details about his family and marriage. In photos, the reality star, 39, was seen crying in the car with West, 43, and a source tells PEOPLE she “feels that she has tried everything.”

“She isn’t getting back what she needs from Kanye,” says the source. “She was to the point that she flew to Cody to basically tell him their marriage is over and to say goodbye.”

According to the source, it seems West still wants to work on the marriage — he recently apologized to his wife on Twitter — but hasn’t yet taken steps to repair the relationship. The two share four children: daughters North, 7, and Chicago, 2, as well as sons Saint, 4, and 14-month-old Psalm.

“He doesn’t seem to get what she is saying,” the source says. “He hasn’t changed anything that she told him needs to change.”

“Kim is very torn,” the source adds. “The last thing she wants is to be divorced with four kids. She knows that she will be fine financially, but her concerns are the kids and the partnership. She is moving towards a divorce, but who knows if she will actually sign papers.”

[From People]

“He doesn’t seem to get what she is saying. He hasn’t changed anything that she told him needs to change.” Yeah but he’s literally in a manic state right now. Again, I have no doubt that Kim is frustrated and worn out, but she knows well enough that Kanye is in the throes of a manic episode. She’s seen it many times before. She can tell him what she needs and she can tell him what changes he should make to keep their marriage intact, but… it’s probably like talking to a brick wall at this point.

That’s the larger conclusion she’ll have to come to – that she doesn’t have the strength to support him emotionally and do everything else, like raise their four children and manage her businesses, etc. Kim is spent. And yes, I do think she’ll file for divorce in the next few months. My guess is that she’ll wait because she doesn’t want to serve him with papers while he’s in the middle of a manic episode, and I also think she’s legitimately worried that she could trigger an even worse episode.

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West  spotted leaving Cipriani's

Kim Kardashian arrives at the Kanye West after party with daughter North West and sister Kourtney Kardashian

Photos courtesy of Backgrid.

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  1. Watson says:

    I just feel so sad for their kids. Mental health issues playing out on a public scale makes my stomach turn.

    • Katrine Troelsen says:

      Yeah its sad for the kids. My mom is mentally ill and thats ok, the real issue is help thats there but being refused. thats what hurts. I hope Kanye gets help if not for himself, for his kids.

    • Jenni says:

      TBH these kids are doomed already. You just can not recover from your mother being Kim K., your father Kanye W. and your grandmother Kris J.

      • Mac says:

        What are they “doomed” to? Growing up rich and having every possible opportunity available to them?

      • Jules says:

        the biggest delusion yet: that growing up rich and having every possible opportunity available equals good parenting.

      • Ennie says:

        I don’t know about “doom”, but what is “every opportunity”? They all (Kardashian-Jenners apparently had every opportunity growing up And they ended up wanting to be famous for nothing, wanting to be girlfriends Or side pieces of famous men, getting opportunities derived from a sex tape, disliking studying.
        I understand that some women want this as a way to improve their lives, like some of those who have raised from performing in clubs and now are entrepreneurs, but these women (and the brother) had other chances in life.
        Plenty of rich people with shallow aspirations.

      • Escondista says:

        Many of the people I grew up with who had extreme wealth and every opportunity afforded to them crashed their BMWs and got injured and died of overdoses of expensive drugs or were seriously cripplingly depressed. Their parents were constantly buying them things rather than spending genuine and joyful time with them. Is this true of all wealthy families? Nah. Do I feel sorry for them? Only a little. But the K crew strikes me as likely to have disconnected and sad children.

      • MM2 says:

        Lots of kids grow up in non-healthy environments & grow up to be resilient, kind, wise people. Saying young children are doomed & they cannot recover is pretty sick. It’s not honesty, it’s just gross projection onto a young child.

      • lucy2 says:

        I don’t think they’re doomed, but I hope as they grow up they get to see a path outside of their “family business” and are able to decide for themselves what they want to do and what’s important to them. That family, for everything they have, doesn’t seem to value much beyond fame, money, and physical appearance, so I hope the kids move beyond that.

      • Sunny315 says:


      • Amber says:

        I don’t think that’s fair to Kim. I’m not saying she’s mom of the year or anything but I believe she loves her children and has been doing all she can to protect them from Kanye’s problems. And yes they were born to wealth and privilege. That doesn’t mean they will turn out lazy or depressed. That’s like saying that children born in poverty are all automatically resilient and stoic and hardworking. That’s not true either. The quality of their relationships with caregivers, the broader support system available to them, their own ingrained personality traits–all of these things impact the way a child turns out. People are just taking the opportunity to pile judgment and shame onto Kim while she’s facing a legitimate crisis in her life. Just like they did when she was robbed in Paris.

      • Jaded says:

        @Mac – growing up rich with everything handed to you on a silver platter does not guarantee happiness. Look what happened to Benjamin Keough. All the Kardashian offspring seem to have had unstable, chaotic relationships with the people they got romantically involved with and had families with. Not a good start to life for their children to be raised around that kind of instability, it can create a whole host of problems as they grow up.

      • Allie says:

        @Mac: Donald Trump grew up rich with his dad being a sociopath and his mother being absent. Now guess how that turned out. He might have become just half the incompetent a-hole he is if his parents were more loving.

  2. JW says:

    You can’t force someone to get help who doesn’t want help. He refuses treatment even when he’s not in a manic episode, so at some point Kim has to decide to keep fishing or cut bait.

    • Nikki says:

      I agree. When anyone who has been through it before refuses to take meds, it’s putting the entire family through hell.

  3. Mia4s says:

    Ah yes, Source Kardashian. The lost Kardashian sister. 🙄

    I get it, she’s laying the groundwork for when she files. The reality is though she’s got 18 years minimum of issues and a connection to Kanye at his best and worst to come; because he is the father of those kids. Even if he has no interest in being a present father, he is certainly not going to suddenly become a private person. This is not going to be the usual Kardashian eye-roll worthy scandal. It’s going to be very sad, mostly for those kids.

  4. KellyKellyKell says:

    I hope she gets out ASAP for herself and the kids. If he says the shit he say about Kim to the media/twitter, he’s probably said some horrific things to her face and maybe even the kids. My mom choose to stay with my dad for a long time and he was very verbally abusive to me and my brothers & her main excuse was she thought he would get better with his depression and addiction to self medicating with opioids but me & my brothers suffered. Idk about Kim & Kanye but I can just imagine he probably told North to her face once about the whole abortion story. I get wanting to help him, but he doesn’t want to help himself or see the harm he’s causing other. It’s just selfish behaviour along with mental health.

  5. Merricat says:

    If you think you can’t be brilliant without your illness, that’s your illness talking. Has he produced some brilliant art while manic? Maybe. Has every manic episode delivered genius? Nope. I hope Kanye realizes what he’s sacrificed unnecessarily in the name of art. Also, thank you for using the word “throes” correctly.

  6. SpiritedMisfit says:

    As a nurse specializing in mental health, having cyclothymia (a step below true bipolar), and also having an unmedicated bipolar SO, I feel for her. It can be extremely difficult, especially emotionally. I’m sure part of her conversation with him was that he needs to get on medication(s) and get his mood stabilized. At the same time, I understand where Kanye is coming from. The medications make you feel numb, and like you’re on autopilot all the time. You don’t truly feel much. Marriage aside, for the sake of their children, he really needs to. A balance can be found so that his manic episodes aren’t so intense, and he’s not so erratic. I have no doubt he loves their children. But in the throws of a manic episode, he’s a danger not just to himself, but them as well. I believe that’s something Kim knows very well, which is why she and Kanye seem to live separate lives. His manic episodes appear to be too frequent, and exceptionally intense. I don’t blame her if she files, and waits until this current episode subsides in order to do so. She needs to do what’s best for their children. At least within a divorce, she can have Kanye’ mentally evaluated, and stipulate he be medicated if he’s going to be around their children, for their safety and well-being. While I’m not a Kardasian shipper, or a fan of hers in the slightest, I do believe she truly loves her children, and puts them above all else.

  7. BayTampaBay says:

    I hope Kim takes all her Yeezy clothes out into her backyard and has a bonfire.

  8. enike says:

    why magazines keep referring to Saint as a boy? Isnt she a girl? Its like the second time I saw it, so I got confused

    • Kylie says:

      North and Chicago are girls, Saint and Psalm are boys.

      • Kylie says:

        From left to right in the photo with her 3 kids and baby on the hip it goes North, Kim, Chicago, Saint. Psalm is not pictured.

  9. Kayleigh says:

    Imagine your dad having a worldwide platform to tell the world that your mother considered aborting you, and that your grandmother is the devil. As stated by @MIA4S, no matter what, Kanye is still going to be their father, present in their lives or not, and he will still be a public figure. If he continues this way, married to Kim or not, the things he says to the world about their family, still has to impact the kids.

    • Sparkle says:

      His behavior as a father is atrocious at this point. The way he speaks about aborting his daughter and trashing the mother and grandmother of his children all the while abandoning his small children to be “creative” and unmedicated states away during a pandemic is shameful. Kanye’s priority is Kanye. Whatever his personal problems are with Kim and Kris he should keep his mouth shut for the sake of his children who love their mother and their grandmother.

      Forget Kanye no wonder Kim is considring divorce

  10. Sparkle says:

    Sounds like he has moved out and lives separately in Wyoming. Long distance husband and long distance “father” is no partner at all.

    I don’t blame her for not moving to Wyoming on Kanyes whim. Her career is in California as is her family and her children’s schools etc. Kanye acts like everything should revolve around him and his need for “creativity” in Wyoming when he hasnt had a hit song in years and his fashion line is a laughing stock. Does he even care to visit his kids? He abandoned them to be “creative” and un medicated in Wyoming. Thats all on him. What a crappy father to bail out on his kids like that. Spent more time with Justin Beiber This month than his own kids

    He must be so hard to live with and deal with even when living states apart.

  11. Lwt00 says:

    She is laying the groundwork for a custody case. CA is a default 50/50 state, and it takes a lot to get the court to change that. These visits, likely text condos, etc. are what she will need to fight for full or majority custody. And she should; he’s clearly not capable of taking care of himself, much less children.

    I imagine the “things that need to change” are he needs to commit to medication and therapy, both of which probably hamper his creativity, so he won’t do either.

    If we think the terrible things he’s said up til now are bad, just wait for the actual divorce. He’s always had an incredible ego. He’s going to go after her viciously, whether he’s conscious of it or not.

  12. nicegirl says:

    “As if I didn’t know that, as if I didn’t know my own bed” Paul Simon

  13. Lala11_7 says:

    Kim needs to decide if she wants to spend the rest of her life on THIS roller coaster…because THIS is how it will be…

    I wish her luck with that decision…Me and my first husband (high school sweetheart 💕) ultimately divorced because he had bipolar and schizophrenia on BOTH sides of his family and his Mama was OFF. THE. CHAIN with her bipolar diagnosis…she would stay on her meds for 9 months of the year which coincided with him being in school…but by the end of MAY…it was HELL TOWN until August when she would go back on her meds..on one hand…I understood because the meds made her feel dead inside…but the horror of her actions when she was off the meds…left us ALL decimated…I told him at age 17 that we couldn’t have kids because I had ALREADY seen his cousins and aunts and they ALL had serious psychological issues…I said we could adopt…he agreed at 17…but changed his mind by the time we were 21…I couldn’t do it…and ultimately we divorced…he did finally have children…..and no…they weren’t spared from his family’s legacy…

    When I think about it…I STILL want to cry…

  14. coolspray says:

    No comment on their marriage, but my GOODNESS, their children are so BEAUTIFUL!

  15. MariaKate says:

    Oh poor poor multi-billionaires, get a divorce and get over yourselves.
    Trying to stay current during the pandemic on their private jets and vacations!
    Most Americans trying not to get sick with the Covid, they are making us sick.

  16. Jenn says:

    This is SO sad. They both live and die by their egos, and the Twitter trash-talk had to’ve been the one unforgivable thing for her. “I’ve gotten it all my life from everyone around me, but from YOU? We’re supposed to be on the same side!” It’s horrible. He isn’t in his right mind.