Matt Gaetz publicly Venmo’d a middleman to pay teenage girls for sex

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Keep your eye on all of the grown men who are sweating over this story. Keep your eye on which men suddenly change their Venmo settings to private. As we’ve heard, Matt Gaetz is a human trafficker, a solicitor of prostitutes, and a statutory rapist. Gaetz and his pervert buddy Joel Greenberg were trafficking women in and out of Florida. The NYT and other outlets had reported days ago that there was an extensive paper trail for both men (Greenberg has already been charged and will likely plead guilty). Did you know that Gaetz was openly using Greenberg as a middle-man to pay young women for sex? Did you know that there are Venmo records for all of this?

In two late-night Venmo transactions in May 2018, Rep. Matt Gaetz sent his friend, the accused sex trafficker Joel Greenberg, $900. The next morning, over the course of eight minutes, Greenberg used the same app to send three young women varying sums of money. In total, the transactions amounted to $900.

The memo field for the first of Gaetz’s transactions to Greenberg was titled “Test.” In the second, the Florida GOP congressman wrote “hit up ___.” But instead of a blank, Gaetz wrote a nickname for one of the recipients. (The Daily Beast is not sharing that nickname because the teenager had only turned 18 less than six months before.) When Greenberg then made his Venmo payments to these three young women, he described the money as being for “Tuition,” “School,” and “School.” The Daily Beast examined these records as a scandal, rooted in a criminal case against Greenberg, engulfs Gaetz.

Greenberg—the former Seminole County tax collector—has now been federally indicted on 33 counts, including sex trafficking crimes involving a 17-year-old. Court documents say Greenberg was “engaged in ‘sugar daddy’ relationships.” And The New York Times says a Justice Department investigation is looking into Gaetz’s involvement in the cash-for-sex ring.

Gaetz and Greenberg are both connected through Venmo to this then-18-year-old woman—who now works in the p0rn industry, according to a friend of the girl. And on Thursday, Greenberg’s attorney and prosecutors indicated during a court hearing that they expect Greenberg to strike a plea deal, likely meaning he plans to cooperate with investigators. That could be potentially disastrous for Gaetz, as investigators look into the connections between these two men. And one particularly damning connection is their financial transactions.

This week, during the reporting of this story, Gaetz’s once-public list of Venmo transactions disappeared. Greenberg’s Venmo account is not currently publicly accessible. But The Daily Beast was able to obtain partial records of Greenberg’s past online transactions through a source.

Greenberg and Gaetz are also connected on Venmo to at least one other woman that Greenberg paid with taxpayer funds using a government-issued credit card. Seminole County auditors flagged hundreds of those payments as “questioned or unaccounted for,” and in total found more than $300,000 in suspicious or unjustified expenses. The Daily Beast was able to obtain that credit card data through a public records request.

“No one has any idea what he was doing. Zero,” said Daniel J. O’Keefe, an accountant who conducted a forensic audit for the county. “The arrogance of these guys. They just felt they were above the law. I’ve never seen it this bad.”

O’Keefe was particularly puzzled by weekend expenses, hotels, unspecified high-dollar “consulting” fees, and cash advances that Greenberg made to himself and others. The Daily Beast has compared Greenberg’s credit card statements and Venmo transactions to Gaetz’s expenses and travel records—compiled through campaign finance reports, Instagram posts, and Venmo—and found that, in some key places, the two timelines and circles of contact overlap. Gaetz and Greenberg share Venmo connections with at least two women who received payments from Greenberg, and both have professional relationships with each other.

[From The Daily Beast]

I wonder if this is what Gaetz meant when he said he never paid for sex. Technically, he was using a middleman to pay the women for sex? And he did say that he was conducting his personal life “on my own dime.” Meaning, he Venmo’d money to Greenberg and Greenberg paid the girls/women. Except that Greenberg was actually using taxpayer money to conduct this elicit, criminal mess. Reportedly, they were using ATMs at hotels and Apple Pay as well, hint hint. Someone needs to check those records too.

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  1. LightPurple says:

    The stupidity and the arrogance compete against one another.

    • Levans says:

      1000%!

    • kgeo says:

      When I first signed up for venmo, I saw all these transactions people were making and I thought it was weird that people could see my mine so I switched to private. I was just using it to cover split costs between friends. This f*cking idiot was paying to have sex with children. How is this guy an elected representative?

      • whatWHAT? says:

        RIGHT?! I thought it was so weird when I started, too, so I made mine private.

        and LMAO @ LightPurple…100% correct.

      • carousel says:

        Same. Idk why everything has to have a social component these days.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        YES! There was a real estate agent in my kid’s class who wanted everyone to pay her back on Venmo for shares in a group gift, and when I set up an account for that purpose, you’d better believe I set transactions to private. I mean, WTF are high-profile people like elected officials doing leaving their transactions public on there even if they’re not engaged in human trafficking? Venmo is creepy, and these two are creepy idiots.

      • SomeChick says:

        Venmo is such a terrible idea. WHY would anyone want to make financial transactions of any kind public?! I did some work for someone who only used venmo and found it annoying and stressful having my business put on display unless I took action to make it private.

  2. Levans says:

    What an idiot! Marking the payments as school?! I hope he goes away for a long time. Has anyone checked on Nester? Cause something in the milk ain’t clean with that situation.

  3. Eleonor says:

    As DR. Miranda Bailey once said “The stupidity of the human race”.

  4. Darla says:

    Prior to yesterday I put Matt in handcuffs by May 1st…I think now he may not make another week before the early-morning knock on the door.

    The Venmo thing is just mind boggling. I think to myself, but they are so stupid! But I don’t think it’s that, well partly, but it’s mostly like that forensic accountant said. It’s arrogance. And I wonder how much of a role Trump-as-President played in the flagrancy of this? Feeling sure you have a pardon in your pocket might make you feel invincible. If you are also stupid and high on ecstasy all the time.

    • Betsy says:

      Some Republicans I happen to see online still can’t shut up about Andrew Gilliam and his one time drug and male prostitutes (I think that’s what it was? I forget now) thing, but here they curiously quiet.

    • Scal says:

      Not only the public Venmo-but the dummy put the detail for the payment in the memo line. Like on a check. He literally put “to hit up ____” except instead of blank it was a girls name.

      Moron. Absolute moron.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      It is arrogance, but it isn’t just because of Trump. Gaetz’s father is politically powerful in Florida, and Gaetz was able to get away with DUI without the usual consequences (no suspended license, etc).

      When a man has not been held accountable for his mistakes for his entire life, this is the result. He thinks he will never be held accountable and is invincible. See also: Kavanaugh, etc.

  5. Chrissy (The Original) says:

    Hahahahahahahahaha! Lock him up! You have you wonder if any other Congressmen are involved in this mess. The hubris is astounding. SMH

    • HufflepuffLizLemon says:

      What if he FLIPS??? Maybe this is just one of many-that might be why people are distancing themselves. Maybe he’s the gateway…

    • Darla says:

      I believe there is a huge trafficking circle in Florida. It’s no coincidence that both trump and epstein ended up there. I don’t know how far and wide this will be permitted to roll, but there’s a lot more there.

  6. Izzy says:

    He’s actually dumber than the Average Florida Man.

  7. Carrie says:

    I just have to say the use of “school” and “tuition” here is incredibly disturbing. Associating sex with people of school-age or even with the power dynamic of needing to pay for school is dark. If Gaetz (or anyone else) wanted to use of-age consenting sex workers, go for it. But this whole setup reeks of something much more sinister. Doesn’t strike me as a ha-ha what a fool situation. Horrifying.

    • Esmom says:

      I also get a very sick, malevolent vibe from it all. Remember Matt has a dark history, he had a roommate die in mysterious circumstances, iirc.

      Also, “sugar daddy relationships” seems like a euphemism. Why not just say it plainly?

      • Darla says:

        I didn’t know about his roommate! Off to Google!

      • Mac says:

        His roommate didn’t die. The story was a hoax started by an extremely homophobic propagandist.

      • Esmom says:

        Darla, strangely I just came across a tweet that refutes the story that Gaetz was able leverage connections to turn a roomate’s suspicious death ruling from homicide to suicide, sorry about that, I didn’t mean to spread disinformation. This is what Snopes now says about it:
        “Not only is the suspicious “roommate death” claim flawed, but further doubt is cast on its veracity by the fact that we have been unable to identify any contemporaneous press accounts of suspicious deaths of a Florida State University student who could possibly have been a Gaetz roommate between 1999 and 2003. Though an administrator at Florida State University confirmed to us that roughly 30 students with expected graduations between 1999 and 2003 passed away during that time period, we found nothing publicly suggesting a Gaetz link to any case that received press coverage. As such, we consider the claim without merit.” So not completely debunked but not definitely true.

      • Darla says:

        No problem esmom! Thank you for the update.

    • Size Does Matter says:

      That’s the thing, right? I’m sure there are plenty of appropriate age GOP women out there who would date him legitimately. So why pay for Lolita-esque? He’s disgusting.

      • Asking for a friend says:

        I think your name answers that question.

      • Darla says:

        OMG Asking you just cracked me up.

      • Sparky says:

        I love the size reference. Kaiser didn’t use it today but in previous posts this week she used a pic of Gaetz, Nestor and Trump Jr. In the pic Gaetz looks like the tallest of the 3 however a quick Google search proved the opposite to be true. Jr is 6’1″, Nestor is 5’8″ and Gaetz is 5’7″

      • MaryContrary says:

        @Sparky-so Gym Jordan must be like 5’2″ because Gaetz appears to tower above him in all the photos I’ve seen.

    • Golly Gee says:

      There is actually a website that he used called Seeking Arrangement for sugar daddies and sugar babies to connect. Business Insider did a couple of stories about it. There is one section specifically for college students who are sugar babies and want help with tuition. So not necessarily under age, ( still gross), but this could be what he referenced as school and tuition.

  8. K says:

    I really want to see him getting arrested. Just waiting for Q cultists to protest.

    • Betsy says:

      “Whoa whoa whoa whoa – we gotta wait for more information before we make baseless charges against a patriotic American like Representative Matt Gaetz! Innocent until proven guilty, you guys!”

      Orrrrrrr Q was always projection.

    • Sandra says:

      Right – I’m curious if anyone has taken one for the team and checked out the Q Anon message boards lately to see what they’re saying about him. I went there once and my brain melted almost immediately. Not going back.

      • Lucy2 says:

        Hell no but I’d be willing to bet they think it’s some vast conspiracy to bring him down, just like the orange turd.

  9. Midge says:

    This is a guy who got away with it his entire life. It’s glorious to watch it all come crashing down.

    • Darla says:

      Yep, that’s why he loves Trump. A guy who is STILL getting away with everything. That must burn Matt up. I honestly don’t know how Trump does it though.

      • Golly Gee says:

        A deal with the devil. That’s why his skin is the color it is. It’s slowly starting to toast in anticipation of his future home.

  10. Ang says:

    So everything the Rumps accused Democrats of was actually word for word what they were doing themselves? Nice tidy trail to all their crimes.

  11. Diana says:

    Someone posted on FB that this dude looks like a cracked out Osmond and I cannot I unsee… 🤣

    • Regina Falangie says:

      THATS WHO HE LOOKS LIKE!!!!! I have been trying to place his swarmy face for soooooo long!!

      I’ve always thought he looks like the reflection in a funhouse mirror. His face pinches in the center. Ew.

    • Dl says:

      😂😂😂😂Osmonds yes!!!!!

    • fluffy says:

      I still maintain that he looks like the illegitimate son of Beavis and Butthead.

  12. girl_ninja says:

    This man is a deviant and an abuser. He needs to go down.

  13. Christa says:

    I hope we get to read about a 6 am search warrant and arrest at his home a la Paul Manafort

  14. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    The right constituents sure do love and admire their rich racist, misogynist, traitorous, pedophilic criminals. In fact, it appears the more egregious their crimes, the more they’re loved, admired and worshipped. They’re simply taking care of their manhood. Nothing to see here folks, boys will be boys.

  15. Jane Doe says:

    Predators like this guy make me sick. This is an area where I am a complete hypocrite when it comes to my abolitionist principles. The Osmond comment above? I totally agree but I guess we have to be a certain age to get it.

  16. The Recluse says:

    Something tells me that a whole network of these ghouls and fools is about to be exposed.
    What’s so odd and frustrating is all of those brainwashed doofs out there have been ranting about pedophiles on the Democratic side and yet they can’t see the real criminals when they’re exposed.
    Anyway…I’m going to need more popcorn. The Karma wheel is turning.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Reporters working on this keep saying this is the tip of the iceberg which makes me gag and worry

      • Veronica S. says:

        Human trafficking is always a “tip of the iceberg” situation, IMO. The logistics require just too many people and too much money moved around illicitly to be done on a small scale when you’re dealing with big players like Matt Gaetz and interstate commerce. That’s part of what makes it so sickening to imagine.

  17. SM says:

    Ok. But next step is start asking some questions about his “adopted son”. As soon as that story came out, it smelled fishy. Where are that kid’s parents, what does adopted son mean? Because it looks like some hostage situation, like crazy Matt is holding him hostage for sex or is he selling him to his other twisted white bros?
    What I do not understand though is why? Is a appalling and all sorts of disgusting (always was even before this came out) but I am sure there are some MAGA Karen’s who would sleep with him for free. What is it with some men, the need to literally own a woman? Unless all of them were underage girls, which only leaves hope he will find himself behind bars.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      The guy has both parents in Cuba. It is absolutely fishy.

    • Emily_C says:

      Paying for sex is not literally owning a woman. It’s paying for a service and then done.

      • Juls says:

        Technically speaking, you are absolutely correct Emily. But for men like Gaetz, Its not technical, it’s psychological. I bought you, I own you for x amount of time. It’s what turns them on, believing they “own” a woman’s body. (Or a child’s but that’s a whole other level of sickness). For these types of men, it’s all about control. They believe they own what they pay for (or steal, again another convo). They want to control women. It’s why they want strict anti-abortion laws. They want women to be under thumb. Now whether they truly want to make abortion illegal is, again, another conversation. If abortion was illegal at the federal level, those single issue voters would have no motivation to get out and vote, so abortion being totally illegal would hurt them at the polls.. And I’ve gone off on a tangent, apologies.

  18. emu says:

    I know that that photo of Gaetz with the girls at the lunch table is kind of indicative of his vibe – but maybe consider not doing that since those girls (hopefully) had nothing to do with this? It creeps me out

    • AMA1977 says:

      I agree, I have a 13 year-old and I would hate to have his sweet face permanently linked with this kind of slimy, evil predator just because he took a selfie with someone his school presented as an important adult. I wrote earlier in the week, the poor girl in the middle is obviously visibly uncomfortable and the others don’t look extra-enthused, either.

  19. Veronica S. says:

    Hubris, right? Has to be. Because any common sense criminal knows you withdraw those payments in smaller intervals and pay in CASH MONEY, BABY.

    I guess we should be thankful that if this kind of trash exists, he’s at least stupid trash. Now it’s just a matter of whether he’ll see proper justice for those girls.

  20. Emily_C says:

    I do not care about him paying ADULT women for sex. Sex work should be decriminalized. But he was sure stupid about it.

    I do care about the statutory rape and sexual harassment. “Soliciting prostitutes” — consenting adult sex workers — is a big nothing, though again, he sure was dumb about it.

  21. EM says:

    An AUDITOR doesn’t know that the very least, he should not use taxpayer funds and a government issued credit card to pay for this? Every cent is tracked when you work for the government. How on earth did he not think this would be discovered? Stupidity mixed with arrogance. Can’t wait until both men are in prison.

  22. Gab says:

    Seems like he didn’t care if he got caught at all. He considers himself totally fine. Disgusting!