Ingrid Seward: If Lilibet Diana isn’t christened in the UK, it’s Meghan’s fault

The British Royal family enjoys day 1 of Royal Ascot 2018

The royal press pack got their marching orders earlier this week, and this was the week where they were going to make “Lilibet Diana’s christening” into the latest melodrama. The rota was not prepared for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s news about becoming investors and impact partners in Ethic. So it will take a few days for the hissy fits to get published. For now, the rota is still focused on the christening, and how Harry and Meghan are completely terrible for not bringing Lilibet to the UK to have her christened, except that royal sources keep insisting that the Sussexes are unwelcome in the UK, so the impression I continue to get is that Harry actually wanted a Windsor christening and he was turned down. Still, I guess we have to listen to Ingrid Seward get nasty about everything about a would-be Montecito christening.

Royal biographer and Editor of Majesty Magazine, Ingrid Seward, told The Sun she would be “surprised” if the couple opted for a Stateside christening. Ingrid says she would be “very surprised” if the Sussexes chose to have the christening in the US rather than the UK.

“Harry has seen such a long tradition of royal christenings and there’s nothing nicer than a royal christening and the beautiful long Honiton robe,” she tells The Sun. “Harry’s great-grandmother is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England – and Meghan was inducted into the Church of England. If they wanted, Harry and Meghan could have it privately in the Chapel at Windsor Castle. The Queen is not going to say no, she may not be able to be there herself but she’s not going to say they can’t have it there. The only reason [it wouldn't be held in the UK] would be if Meghan didn’t want to come over here with the baby. That would be the only reason I could think of.”

Ingrid suggests: “If it happens in the UK obviously people will find out, but if it happens [in California], I don’t know that there will be any official announcement. They’ll have their own Vogue cameraman there, there will definitely be photos but they may not release any.”

Ingrid observes: “If Lilibet is christened in America, maybe Harry’s friends would fly out. I don’t think any members of the immediate Royal Family would have time [to fly over]. Their schedules are organised six months in advance.”

An Episcopal ceremony would mean Lilibet was not an immediate member of the Church of England, but could later join an Anglican congregation if she came to the UK. It would have no effect on Lilibet’s standing in the Firm. Ingrid adds: “Lilibet is the great-grandchild of the Queen. She would still have her place in the Royal Family.”

If Lilibet’s christening does take place in America, it is unlikely the young royal will wear the handmade replica of the traditional Honiton robe, worn by royal babies for 11 years in a row, including Lilibet’s big brother Archie. Ingrid says the royal heirloom would “definitely not” be shipped to California for an American christening.

Instead, if Lilibet does have a Californian christening, Meghan may opt for a simpler white dress or christening gown for her daughter, reflecting the casual style she’s been seen adopting around their home.

[From The Sun]

“If they wanted, Harry and Meghan could have it privately in the Chapel at Windsor Castle. The Queen is not going to say no…” Except by all accounts – even Rota accounts – that’s exactly what happened. Again, Camilla Tominey’s royal sources (not Harry and Meghan) flatly insisted that there would be no christening in the UK. William even wants credit for shutting down the possibility of Lilibet having a UK christening. I don’t know why there is this refusal to just say that plainly: the Windsors are so petty and racist, they threw a fit about Harry and Meghan christening their daughter in Windsor. It’s that simple. And of course the Windsors will not travel to Montecito for the christening! The whole point is that the Windsors are publicly SHUNNING Harry and Meghan. And then all of those people are smearing Harry and Meghan for being victims of a royal shunning.

Royal Ascot, Portrait of TRH Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex and TRH Meghan the Duchess of Sussex in front of HRH Queen Elizabeth the Second

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  1. Woke says:

    All I’m getting from these christening talks is the courtiers want to have control over the ceremony if it happens in the UK. And Harry and Meghan aren’t willing to give them that or they simply don’t know anything and trying to get info from H&M by writing every narrative possible.

    • SuSuSusio says:

      Let’s just start with this line from the story:

      “Harry’s great-grandmother is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England ”

      Uh….no. His Great Grandmother passed a long time ago. His GRANDMOTHER is the Supreme Governor.

      If the “Royal Expert” can’t get that one right, why bother reading on or acknowledging anything she feels the right to opine?

      • Jaded says:

        Thank you for pointing this out. It leads me to believe Sewage didn’t actually write this, some lackey did and she merely signed off on it without fact-checking. These garbage writers know nothing, that’s why they’re so intent on dragging the Sussexes out of pure frustration and spite.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ SuSuSusio, pretty much negates the title of Royal biographer and all royal matters!! Wonder how long it will take for her to catch this enormous blunder?

      • SuSuSusio says:

        You’d figure someone would’ve caught that one.

        It’s not an obscure fact.

        Amazing amount of outrage without the benefit of actual facts — even one this obvious.

        So what does that say about their “exclusive insights” if they can’t get this one right?

        Thank you Jaded and BothSidesNow

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, it’s about control. If the RR is paying attention to H&M’s actual actions, then they could guess that H&M’s main personal concerns are controlling their own narrative and not letting anyone exploit their children. If it was truly important for Harry that his daughter be baptized at Windsor, then I don’t think Meghan would say no. And I don’t think the Queen would say no. And I think it would be done in a very private way. But, looking at H&M’s actions since they moved to the US, it doesn’t seem that this is important. If the Sussexes hadn’t reported yesterday that there were no final christening plans, I would have bet that it had already happened.

    • fishface says:

      ….and in breaking news, the tabloids discover that Meghan Markle is responsible for global warming.

    • Mokiki (Monique Heywood) says:

      So Ingrid Seward, tell me #CamillaTominyIsALiar without telling me #CamillaTominyIsALiar.

  2. rawiya says:

    Oh, we’re ignoring the stories about lil Willy stomping his feet and saying no? It’s Meghan’s fault now, is it? Typical.

    Also, “They’ll have their own Vogue cameraman there” I’M SCREAMING!!! So bitter. No wonder Meghan’s skin is so clear, bathing in all these tears but be like finding the fountain of youth.

    Edit: Is there a British Consulate or Embassy nearby the Sussex’s home? I’d love it if they had the christening there: so they’d technically still be in the UK for all the “needs to be at the Church of England” nonsense. A Dutch princess was born in Canada, but the government declared the maternity room “extraterritorial” so that the baby could be considered fully Dutch and be a princess and all. #HistoryLesson

    • I can’t get over how blatantly abusive their behavior and language is. I’m going to be cruel and say no, but it’s your fault. They are losing their minds like an abuser does, when their victim finally gets away and moves on.

      • Snuffles says:

        I’m sure Harry is thankful to be free but I’m sure it hurt to realize that his family’s “love” for him is/was conditional.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Rawiya, just this morning I saw a headline in one of those rags in the UK blaming…wait for it…DIANA for the “rift.” Apparently she “raised them wrong” by treating them “as equals.” I sh!t you not.

      At what point is William expected to take responsibility for his own behavior? He’s practically a 40-year-old man, and now we’re blaming his dead mother for mistakes they’re surmising she might have made in, like, 1987? At least Harry owns his behavior and owns his past mistakes. But William is either perfect, or, if for some reason he’s not perfect, it’s definitely someone else’s fault.

      And they ALWAYS find a way to blame anything and everything on a woman.

      • SarahCS says:

        I mean technically there is a grain of truth in this?

        Diana gave Harry ‘ideas above his station’ in the royal circle, that he’s just as valuable a human being as his brother (and indeed anyone). The blasphemy! If Harry had been more successfully indoctrinated he may never have married Meghan and escaped.

      • Snuffles says:

        It’s kind of true, isn’t it? And thank goodness Harry held onto the lessons Diana taught him. And thank God for being the spare, because I’m convinced the family beat out all of Diana’s influence on William after she died because he was the heir. They just left Harry to twist in the wind and he had to figure life out for himself.

      • GraceB says:

        Well we are all a product of of parents, so Diana had a part to play in how both William and Harry turned out. Often I think adulthood is one long battle of figuring out what went wrong in childhood and trying to readjust.

        I think @Snuffles is right. William had Diana’s influence but also must have been heavily leant on by other royals. In particular the Queen & Charles. His path seemed to have been clearly mapped out for him, while Harry didn’t have that to such an extent.

      • iconoclast59 says:

        @Snuffles @GraceB, William also had a much more complicated relationship with Diana. I think he was more pliable to the RF’s manipulations.

    • Laura-Lee MacDonald says:

      +1000 in the cackling about a Vogue photographer. Lol! And Ottawa has an annual tulip festival to celebrate Princess Margriet’s birth as the Dutch government began sending tulip bulbs to Ottawa as a thanks after the war. Still the prettiest time of year in this town. Pity salt isn’t good for blooms, so a similar gesture from Britain would be unlikely to work as well. Haaaaaaaaaa!!!

    • Louise177 says:

      LOL at the Vogue comment. There hasn’t been any photos of Lilibet at all and a couple of abstract photos of Archie since the move. Yet the “Royal experts” act like Harry and Meghan are living their lives in front of the media. None of them have a clue as to what is going on which is why they keep throwing spaghetti at the wall.

      • L4frimaire says:

        That part is hilarious. Who is this Vogue photographer since Vogue uses established names or freelancers? This shows how ridiculous they are and that they still have that Vogue issue on the brain two years later. The Sussexes already issued a statement on the christening but here Seward is still going on about it, and of course it’s all Meghan’s fault because everything is in their eyes. There really isn’t anything more to say about this.

      • Lorelei says:

        There is no “Vogue photographer” 😂 They use lots of photographers for different types of pieces. These people make themselves look worse every time they open their mouths.

      • Ginger says:

        Apparently Ingrid prefers her photographers to hide in the pillars to get their photos, just like at Phillips funeral.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Rawiya- lol at Meghan bathing in their tears. I’m sure all the salt in those tears make them a great, all natural exfoliating scrub.

  3. Esma says:

    I mean do we really think H&M give a damn?

    • MMadison says:

      Yes, I believe they do. IMO I think it’s a huge issue with Harry. I believe he has a problem with the fact that his children and ONLY his children are treated differently. There is NO doubt that Beatrice and Eugenie children will have christenings at Windsor. Both are not Senior members of the RF yet there isn’t a problem yet for Harry it’s different. Harry has to realize his family is GARBAGE. If The Queen or his father wanted Lili’s christening to take place at Windsor it would. I will say this again, the British RF is GARBAGE!

      • Hell Nah! says:

        +1

      • Cate says:

        I agree, on some level I would guess they do care. They know it’s for the best to move on, project a positive outlook, etc. so that’s what they are doing. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt to see that your biological family is repeatedly ready to fuck you over. I’m estranged from my parents and I KNOW my Dad is a lost cause and that I just have to get on with life without him. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt every time he does something that shows how little he values my happiness and well-being, because he’s my Dad and he’s *supposed* to be different.

    • Merricat says:

      I think they do not GAF. After the incredible abuse they suffered at the hands of the royal family, I don’t think they have any expectations regarding the royals, the rota, and the racist tory ideals.
      They’re living their lives without a thought for the cruel circus they left behind, and the circus can’t stand it.

      • Lorelei says:

        They probably still have PTSD from sh!t they were given for every single aspect of Archie’s christening. It started weeks in advance, and the bitching about the godparents went on long after it was over. Absolutely insane.

    • L4frimaire says:

      They don’t care what the press thinks because they will be hostile no matter what. However, at this point if the press is conveying what the palace thinks, they are just constantly confusing. First it’s Harry was refused because William is an ass, then courtiers/ palace sources say no christening is happening in the UK. Then it was the Sussexes are shunning, now it’s Meghan’s fault if they don’t christen the baby there because of course they are free to come to Windsor to christen Lilibet. All I’m getting from this is that the Royal family was extremely hostile from the beginning to baby Lilibet but are using her as a pawn. I really don’t understand the point of these articles. Who are people like Seward to dictate what they think the Sussexes will do regarding their children. The utter stupidly and arrogance of this.

  4. Lady Digby says:

    This is a shabby thing to deny a baby a christening when said child’s great granny is head of Church if Harry has made such a request. It lowers them further in my estimation. Shame on them!

    • Cessily says:

      Even if he didn’t make the request, putting that out there is disgusting and truly disturbing. This is a Religious ceremony and an infant, all of this back and forth by these people who are supposed to be professional adults is just vulgar.

  5. lanne says:

    A christening in the UK is probably contingent on all the ratchets getting to interview Harry and Meghan, and take pictures of the baby. The courtiers would likely insist on that as “punishment” for Harry and Meghan, plus kickbacks from the tabloids.

    Perhaps they would even require Meghan to stand in the middle of a “shame circle” while Seward, Tominey, and all the other harpies rain down abuse on her head. Pehaps they would even want her to do a Jane Shore-esque “shame the slut” walk (even though that made the people of London sympathize with Jane).

    F them. F their Fing christening gown. Lili can be christened in Santa Barbara, and like I said yesterday, I hope she already has.

    • Vivica says:

      Better yet, let’s get a super American designer to create the christening gown.

      • Hell Nah! says:

        @Vivica: hahahahaha – I LOVE this idea!! Can you imagine the incandescent exploding of heads on Ye Olde Salty Isle if this came to pass???? I’m howling at the thought of it :) )))))))

      • Jaded says:

        I think something California themed would be great! Little sunglasses, little flip-flops and a gown embroidered with palm trees. Margaritas and tacos for everyone afterwards!

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Jaded, don’t forget the floral headpiece!!! Filled with beautiful fresh flowers from their garden at their massive Montecito mansion with 37 bathrooms as well!!!

        Ingrid, you are an absolute idiot and an embarrassment to your profession!!
        BTW, there is a global pandemic going on as well!!!

  6. Snuffles says:

    IF Harry asked, and I still have my doubts that he ever did, he would have insisted that there would be no press and no official picture release to the public. If that was the case, that’s the only reason why Charles and William would say no. Because serving up the Sussex’s to the press is in their best interest.

    The continued insistence that not coming to the UK to do it old school style is some sort of great loss is ridiculous. It’s the same mindset that couldn’t fathom Harry leaving and succeeding. I guess they see Harry’s rejection of yet another tradition is a further rejection of them.

    • Ginger says:

      I personally don’t think Harry asked. It’s projection from the RF and press. They WANTED Harry to ask and since he didn’t they are pushing this story out. If the story comes from the UK regarding Harry and Meghan, then the opposite happened. They have no access to them. That’s what I think.

      • Becks1 says:

        If Harry asked, they would have said yes. Maybe he couldn’t do it at Windsor, but if he and Meghan wanted a UK christening for baby Lili, it would be happening. Even if he refused to have pictures released or press there or anything, it would be happening the same way August is going to be christened and Lucas and Sienna. Maybe they’re waiting for a group rate or something at this point, I don’t know, lol. But neither Charles nor William could stop a UK christening from happening for baby Lili IF that’s what H&M wanted.

        If it’s not happening, then I’m assuming its not what they wanted.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Becks1, you are absolutely right!! If Harry and Meghan wanted a UK christening, it would happen. No amount of stomping or holding his breath will influence the decision by TQ!! She is the one in charge of these matters!! She even made the decision regards PP funeral that no medals were to be worn. She is petty but she is also smart in keeping making those decisions when need be. Don’t get me wrong, I think that she has made enormous mistakes, but given her influence over the family, she certainly has the last say, even though Chaz is acting regent.

        I don’t understand why those on Salty Island of Petty and Bows keep forgetting that there is a global pandemic!!

  7. Jais says:

    These people. Can you imagine wanting it known you’re publicly shunning a baby? Or I guess the new message is it’s all Meghan’s fault. And lmao that their schedules are planned 6 months in advance. Don’t think that’s the case for all of them.

  8. Neners says:

    I have to say: watching it slowly sink in for the royal reporters that they are being completely iced out of all things Sussex is hilarious. Can you sense the growing anxiety in their reporting? Because I can 😂

    I personally don’t believe a christening for Lili in the UK was ever considered. The rota’s unhinged behavior after her birth guaranteed that.

  9. PEARL GREY says:

    The rota rats are hilariously desperate for a Sussex payday, and William the Grand Cambridge Kkklan Wizard is hilariously desperate to flex his future king muscles and look like he has the final say on who gets to do what and where. Ingrid and her fellow fan fiction novelists will be trying to get their mounting bills paid over this story no matter what Harry and Meghan choose. The “how DARE they shun the Queen/the UK!” stories are already typed up in the drafts if the couple christen Lili in California, and the “how DARE they try to have their cake and use the Queen/the UK for royal perks!” stories are already typed up in the drafts if they christen Lili in the UK. Either way, Harry and especially Meghan will be smeared as being in the “wrong”, so once again, I hope they do whatever’s right for them and their baby. The starving rota rats will remain unfed regardless.

    • Islandgirl says:

      This Pearl Grey! Exactly this…couldn’t have said it any better.

    • P says:

      Yup they’ll get hate no matter what they do. Whether in the UK or the US. So I pray they do what’s best for them which I’m sure they are lol.

  10. SexyK says:

    There would be no christening in the UK because Harry and Meghan never requested it. Also, William doesn’t have the power to turn down a request even though he wants credit for saying “no”.

    More than likely, representatives of the royal family contacted the Sussexes about a UK christening and the Sussexes declined which is why the royal rota are freaking out about Harry & Meghan not attending the Diana’s statue party.

    Its clear none of these people including the royal family know Harry’s intentions. After how the firm and the media attacked his daughter when she were days old over a name, do you really think he’s eager to bring his kids back to the UK? Come on now!

    • ABritGuest says:

      I think this is right. There’s a new story today that the queen may have a memorial service for Philip & it’s being pitched as way for Harry& Meghan to return to U.K. & work on the ‘feud’ with the family.

      So my guess is the firm, working with their tabloid buddies, has been trying to get the pair back in U.K. with the christening, Diana party & now this possible memorial is next thing. Next it will be the poor newly widowed queen needs all her family at Christmas.

    • Jegede says:

      Exactly.👍

      Harry never asked.
      Even the quote in the Torygraph was one of resignation as in “Forget it. It’s not happening”.

      The RRs remain DESPERATE for Harry to return, and with no christening, nor Diana event, they’ve started blathering on a Philip memorial, the Sussexes have to attend.

      • Nyro says:

        Exactly. “Forget it. It’s not happening”. As in, they did everything they could do to get the Sussexes back on British soil for the press and yet it’s not working. They asked and H&M said “no”. They asked again and H&M said ” hell no”. Then they asked again, on their knees begging, and H&M said “leave us the eff alone already!!” And then Bulliam started running to the press saying the exact opposite. It’s clear from the response of the palace and the media who actually wants the christening in the UK.

  11. S808 says:

    Not sure why they’re obsessing about this, it’s not like they get any type of access or photos.

  12. Jocelyn2 says:

    Does it honestly matter? At the end of the day, take the kid to the local church and get her baptized there.

    • Sid says:

      Tell that to the British media who seem to be writing article after article after article on this.

      • Nick G says:

        I still can’t get over the fact that the BM is talking about this in 2021. I get that it’s the rota, and I get that Anglophilia is a lot about nostalgia, but the world is burning, and they’re coming off as completely unhinged. Imagine if this was a friend or neighbour of yours obsessing about her in-law’s baptism like this.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Nick, truly, they must not have a clue as to how pathetic they look to the rest of the world

    • booboocita says:

      Exactly. And I wouldn’t be surprised if this has already happened. We probably won’t hear anything about Lilibet’s christening for another 25-30 years, and then we’ll hear about it only in the context of her wedding: “Lilibet wants to get married in the church in which she was baptized 25-30 years ago.”

    • Lilibetp says:

      Do they honestly think that God would care where the baby is baptized?

  13. Becks1 says:

    So what I’m gathering is that the RRs are desperate for a UK christening, and H&M said “nah, we’re not dragging our children to England when there is STILL a pandemic going on” and now someone – the RRs? The royals themselves? – is really ticked about that.

    It’s interesting though that we’ve pivoted from “Harry was desperate to have a royal christening at Windsor and William is such a strong person he said NO” to “its all Meghan’s fault.” It tells me that someone realized the first version made William look very very petty.

    What I think is funny though is that it is possible that when the christening happens, no one outside their tight circle knows anything about it. I doubt it will happen in the UK, but if it does, the RRs aren’t going to have a clue.

    I am laughing at the comment about the Vogue cameraman though. Breaking news – family may want to photograph a big occasion in their child’s life and then NOT release the pictures to the papers. I do it all the time, I’m so groundbreaking, lol.

    • GraceB says:

      I think you’re right. I suspect that a christening would happen without anyone knowing, no matter where it took place.

      I wonder whether they’d even consider not getting her christened at all?

      Everyone is assuming they will but they don’t have to.

      • Lorelei says:

        This family likes to claim that their motto is “never complain, never explain,” but in reality, it should be “PHOTOS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN!”

    • Harper says:

      Ah yes, the Vogue cameraman that is documenting all the Sussexes’ moments. I heard Anna Wintour is going to be Princess Lilli’s godmother.

      • Lorelei says:

        Maybe Anna Wintour will also be her campaign manager when she moves on to the next phase of her master plan, running for US president 🙄

    • Merricat says:

      Lol

  14. Miranda says:

    Oh FFS, Ingrid. Just blame Meghan for the crucifixion of Christ and be done with it.

  15. Scorpion says:

    Ingrid Sewage is the godmother to Cressida Bonas. When H broke up with Cressie, she wrote the most embarrassing editorial asking H to take Cressie back.
    She probably thinks it’s Meghan’s fault that the UK is having petrol and food shortages.

    • Layla says:

      Haven’t you heard? Coronavirus was because of Meghan. And shemay have already put an entire generation off reading!! And don’t forget the most important thing…….
      sHe mAde KatE crY!!!!!!!!!

  16. North of Boston says:

    IS is one of the four so-called royal experts who provided detailed commentary about the Oprah interview… BEFORE it had aired

    Her lying agenda-pushing bigoted opinion is worth less than nothing.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Seward is also the one who said in July that it would be far more insulting to Harry & Meghan just to ignore them. Guess she lifted her moratorium on that. Her recent feature on Kate probably didn’t generate much interest so she had to go back to H & M.

      The blame game is strong with the royal rat pack. Came across an article the other day (maybe the Express) and don’t recall which rat it was, but they were suggesting that if Harry had properly introduced them to Meghan in the beginning things would have been different. As if the nasty headlines from the get go would not have occured.

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s been a running theme with the RRs – that if Harry had introduced Meghan to them, if they had sat down and had a cup of tea or whatever and gotten the chance to talk to her, this would have all been different. What they mean of course is – if Harry and Meghan had been willing to play the game the way the Cambridges are.

        But that also obviously overlooks the fact that the attacks started on Meghan before the engagement was ever announced. They were never going to give her a chance.

      • JT says:

        I saw an old tweet from Richard Palmer, or whichever one of the rats, and it said that they were promised access to Meghan. There was also a tweet saying that there were “assurances that H&M would return to Frogmore”….until Eugenie moved in. They desperately wanted to meet Meg in person and were denied and the royals were making promises to those clowns about the Sussexes that they couldn’t keep.

      • Nyro says:

        Imagine how much worse it would have been had they actually met her. They would have used that to give legitimacy to every horrible allegation thrown at her. “I had lunch with Meghan on several occasions. So I can tell you from experience, that she is indeed short tempered and intimidating. These bullying allegations sound spot on to me.” The abuse would have been ten times worse.

  17. Izzy says:

    Shunning a baby and denying their right to be christened is not the flex these person think it is. They should have let tnis narrative go after Willieleaks put it out there that he is responsible for saying no.

    • Merricat says:

      Next, William will challenge Lili to an arm-wrestling competition. It will be the only athletic contest he’ll ever win.

      • Jan90067 says:

        William will be wearing a helmet and have spotters with outreaching hands on four sides.

        Lili will be in a patterned onesie. Pacifier optional, but matching, of course.

      • 809Matriarch says:

        Hah! It might be like the David and Goliath contest though. William could get a sudden charlie horse cramp in his wrestling arm and Lili-Di could win! I would love to see that video go viral like the one with the funny Earth Wind and Fire music showing the difference between Invictus Warrior Harry, and Wee Willy Porridge Lumps with a bike helmet 2 feet off the ground, spotted by a squadron of helpers!

    • L4frimaire says:

      These people have been so vicious about this little girl from day one. They are so desperate for a photo because they want to attack both her and her mother with racist slurs. If this is what we get in the press, can’t imagine the type of hate and threats little Lilibet gets that we don’t even know about. These people act as though their actions haven’t caused the need for the Sussexes to be very protective of their children because of the crazies and haters out there, the same people who say Meghan was never pregnant or has a fake baby are the ones most wanting to see her, and say there is something wrong with her since they won’t reveal her, then will turn around and say they’re using their children for publicity. They owe these people nothing of their time. Nothing.

  18. ABritGuest says:

    Can anyone tell me what’s happening with Lucas’, August’s christenings? Cos they were born before Lili so why isn’t anyone agitating for details on that?

    I think the larger royal family and courtiers have no idea what’s happening with the christening arrangements and have gone to the press to try force issue out in the open. As trash as the royals are I don’t think they would turn down christening at Windsor- not when the royals could keep their bargain up and leak details to the press and the press desperately want the Sussexes in the U.K. and details on Lili & archie . Remember the response when the queen knew about Lili’s birth and apparently kept news to herself? The press & courtiers started portraying her as senile with bad hearing.

    Anyway it’s funny how likes of Ingrid even want the so called bully Meghan & traitor Harry to come back for christening the press won’t be invited to. Wasn’t it reported like a few weeks ago how relieved the family were that the Sussexes had left & that Meghan didn’t attend Philip’s funeral?

  19. Lorelei says:

    I just saw a clip from a UK morning* show where they were talking about the christening nonsense, and Philip Schofield said,
    “Once again, they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t. You wonder whether if they had come over, people would say, ‘that’s unnecessary travel!”

    So at least *some* British media figures can see through constant barrage of bullsh!t.

    *initially this autocorrected to “moron” which would also work

    • Becks1 says:

      Well that’s something, because it really is that simple sometimes. They’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t, and I’m glad some in the British media are acknowledging that.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Becks it really is that simple and can be applied to every single thing they ever do or say. They’ll never win. (Luckily they don’t give even one slim sh!t about what the tabloids in the UK think of them.)

    • Sid says:

      IIRC Schofield is the one who had Tominey on his morning show the day after the Oprah interview aired, and he called her out for spreading the lie that Meghan made Kate cry. Tominey was all blustery and tried to defend herself, but he wasn’t letting her get away with it. It seems the Oprah interview was an eye opener for him, as I keep reading about him making these sort of comments and at least trying to measured instead of just “Sussex bad!”

      • P says:

        Nope he doesn’t get a pass because at some point after the Oprah interview when another project was announced he said why doesn’t Meghan just shut up.
        Maybe he’s seeing the light now but he’s still awful and has been awful to both Harry and Meghan
        But I do think the constant nagging by the BM with anything Harry and Meghan do will make more people realize how unfairly they are being treated especially as will and Kate copy everything Meghan and Harry do

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Exactly. IF Harry and Meghan took the baby to England to be baptized, the british tabloids would be criticizing them for taking a tiny unvaccinated infant on an international trip during a pandemic, and what horrible parents they must be for not caring about the health and safety of the Queen’s great-granddaughter.

  20. Layla says:

    There are some people you just want to slap but you can’t because sh*t splatters.
    Prince William and Kate Middleton are at the top of that list but Ingrid Seward, Dan Wootton (Alphabetti Spaghetti), Piers Morgan and Camilla Tominey tie for a close third

    After the way Archie Manners and Josh porters exposed this clown I’m surprised at the sheer nerve of this woman to continue to try and give her opinion as facts so brazenly.

    • Layla says:

      Pieters*

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Don’t forget Katie Nicholls, who wrote in Vanity Fair that the South African Prime Minister wouldn’t be there to meet Harry and Meghan (Vanity Fair later edited the article to say “President” after too many people pointed out Nicholl’s ignorance — I guess she never heard of a person called “President Mandela”).

  21. MellyMel says:

    I’m still not convinced H&M wanted to have the christening in the UK in the first place. I think the press hoped they would so they could get pictures, but that’s not gonna happen.

  22. Amy Bee says:

    If Harry was turned down by the Palace that information would have been leaked already like the remembrance day wreath story was. I don’t think Harry has asked for Lili to be christened in Windsor. As for a royal christening being lovely how would Ingrid know this? My guess is that Archie’s christening wasn’t great and Meghan and Harry don’t want a repeat of that. It’s going to be in Santa Barbara.

    • Nyro says:

      Exactly, there would have been a big exclusive from Richard Kay in the DM or something about the whole process of how they shut down the Sussex baby’s christening. Harry and Meghan did not ask for anything from these people. Camel Toe had it right about who did the shunning here.

    • Jegede says:

      @Amy Bee – As always, spot on!😎😎😎

    • Merricat says:

      Yes, agreed.

  23. Nyro says:

    Wow. Whoever thought it was possible for these people to become even more unhinged over the Sussexes. The lack of access to the American babies is killing the last few brain cells and the half-shred of decency left in these people. The Cambridges, including their kids, just do not sell anymore. No one really cares about any of them. They don’t move papers and they don’t drive clicks. They literally need the independent American royals in order to feed and clothe themselves. So I hope they continue to get nothing from Montecito. And I hope they have a lovely christening in Cali, which of course will be far better than any Windsor christening, Ingrid. And I hope we never see photos. But if they do share the photos, I look forward to those photos being debuted by Gayle on the CBS Morning Show or in Time magazine or Vanity Fair.

    • Amy Bee says:

      We’re never going to see those pictures.

      • Jan90067 says:

        It’d make a lovely Christmas card.

        They may surprise us with something, like the card with Archie crawling away from the Christmas tree.

        Or not.

        But it would be lovely to see a pic of them thriving, living their best lives away from the Viper Pit on Salty Isles.

    • Snuffles says:

      No one is going to care about the Cambridge kids until they are old enough to cause trouble. So, like, 10 years from now.

  24. MsIam says:

    Imo, Harry and Meghan shouldn’t go out of their way to be around these sh!t people. Wasn’t it Robert Lacey who said they all gave Harry the cold shoulder at Phillip’s funeral? And Mike Tindall claiming the family would like to punch him? So why bother? That would include the fakakta Jubilee too. I’m sure Hallmark has a nice card for the occasion.

  25. Over it says:

    Bitches will bitch.

    • Merricat says:

      And Ingrid moos the loudest, but if a cow moos in the forest and there’s no one to hear it, does it make a sound?

  26. Sure says:

    I don’t believe H&M want a Uk christening for Lili because it would mean having to interact with the family members and aides who went out of their way to fabricate a controversy about her name that was intended to delegitimize her identity. The attack on Lili was the final line in the sand with regards to H&M’s dealings with the BRF.

  27. Deanne says:

    Well absolutely EVERYTHING is Meghan’s fault so no surprise she’d be blamed for this too. How far up her ass is Ingrid Seward’s head?

    • Cessily says:

      Ingrid is a vile human being, there is no hope for her.

      • Tessa says:

        She was awful to Diana, turned on her after years of Diana being put on Majesty covers to help Ingrid sell issues. She wrote two anti Diana books soon after Diana’s death.

  28. aquarius64 says:

    I want the christening on the same day as the Diana with pictures released to US media. Serve the royal and rota rats right.

  29. Bettyrose says:

    I understand the christening has significance as regards the royal line of succession, but Meghan has been pretty clear she’s not religious. IDK about Harry but I’m guessing this is more cultural for him. Which is fine. Many of us participate in religious ceremonies out of a connection to culture and family/community rather than a deep faith. But it’s like watching two different realities. H & M are living in the real world doing real things and the rota are obsessing over a bygone era of royals whose entire life is royal tradition.

    • Jan90067 says:

      And yet….NO ONE CRIES about Heir Force 1 AND 2 for not going to church, considering THEY are the future Heads of the Church of England! They show up at Christmas and Easter, and that’s it? No Sundays ever. And everyone’s fine with it. But now, ANGLICAN Church is SO IMPORTANT!

      Blatant flaming hypocrites.

    • Lorelei says:

      They should release lots of christening photos the morning of the Jubilee 😂

    • MA says:

      That’s not true, Meghan is religious and grew up in the Christian tradition

  30. Cessily says:

    Bullying over a private and very personal religious celebration ceremony welcoming a new life into the church is disgusting. It really needs to stop.
    The Sussex’s have stated that they have not finalized the Christening arrangements.. at no time did they say where it will be. Wherever they choose to have it I would hope that people would show respect for the ceremony and the Sussex’s family, but since Britain is involved I know that is not likely.

  31. MerryGirl says:

    You can just feel the bitterness coming our of every pore of this sour face sow with the ill fitting wig. The British press have NOTHING on the Sussexes and it’s killing them that they get the news about them the same time as we do….
    Move to Montecito – they knew nothing. Meghan’s miscarriage – they knew nothing. Archwell launch – they knew nothing. Clevr Brands – they knew nothing. Meghan’s pregnancy with Lili – they knew nothing. Oprah Interview – they knew nothing. Vax Live concert – they knew nothing. Better Up job – they knew nothing. Harry’s appearance at Well Child awards – they knew nothing. Lili’s birth – they knew nothing. Times 100 – they knew nothing. Trip to NYC – they knew nothing. Ethic Investment – they knew nothing. And now Lili’s christening – they know nothing.

  32. Athena says:

    No Ingrid ( since you’re reading the comments on this site) the dress will not be shipped to the US, Angela Kelly or someone on her staff will get on a plane and bring the dress over and after the ceremony will take it back to the UK.

    • nina says:

      Why the big fuss over a christening dress. Its not even the original. And further they act like it is some holy relic. The thing was used by Queen Victoria for her kids so not that long ago. Gimme a break.
      Pop that baby in a diaper for her christening. Who cares what shes dressed in. Shes is all of four months old. All she has to do right now is eat, poop, cry, sleep and blow spit bubbles.

  33. Myjobistoprincess says:

    I think Meghan & Harry couldnt care less. LOL

  34. Myjobistoprincess says:

    I think Meghan & Harry couldnt care less. LOL
    And how Sewards pedals to fill space with a word salad: “there will definitely be photos but they may not release any” LOL Please tell me something I dont already know. LOL

  35. Margles says:

    There will be a Vogue photographer but the photos will never be published? What?

  36. Deeanna says:

    There’s always the Anglican Church of Canada.

  37. Athena says:

    @MERRICAT, my money is on Lili.

  38. Mel says:

    I don’t believe that they asked. I don’t believe that they want to fly with their children during a pandemic on a 7hr flight, for a one hour ceremony to be with people who they have no relationship with at the moment. I don’t believe they asked

    • Tessa says:

      I could see diana’s sisters flying over. ANd they could have done this under the radar. It would be great if they were named godmothers.

  39. OldSoul says:

    I don’t understand why H&M want to have have Lily christened at Windsor with the Queen. The Queen didn’t attend Archie’s christening and they feel that the institution of the RF is racist.

    IF they wanted to include the Queen, they could have a Zoom chat during the christening or immediately afterwards. There is no need to do it in England. Why feed the controversy?

    • Lionel says:

      This! I can’t imagine why they’d want to participate in a ritual that essentially symbolizes giving their daughter back to the Firm.

    • Sid says:

      Where is it said that Harry and Meghan want Lili christened at Windsor? The known liar royal rota has been saying that, but I haven’t heard the Sussex spokespeople make any such comment.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Sid, Harry & Meghan haven’t said boo about the christening(at least publicly), as you said. Their spokespeople are not confirming or denying anything with the rotas or other nefarious sources. Maybe a legal letter here and there. The story started in the British Media and they keep banging away at it. When the Sussex spokespeople have something to say it will not be first reported in the BM or associates.

        Have to LOL a bit at the idea of Will & Kate being invited to anything. Archie & Lili, meet your aunt & uncle who worked extra hard on a smear campaign and false bullying allegations against your Mum. They will always love you and have your back. The end.
        Not gonna happen.

    • P says:

      Who said they did? Have they spoken to you about their plans?
      And where is the controversy? Besides gossip pages and BM tabloids no one cares. Harry and Meghan meanwhile are living their life.
      The BM and RF turn everything into a “controversy” so how is this any different from everything else Harry and Meghan do?
      Now less people are falling for the stupidity I would hope

    • Lionel says:

      That’s what I meant. Why would anyone think that they WANTED to have a Royal Christening?

    • truthSF says:

      Stop believing everything the U.K. tabloids writes. Harry and Meghan never said they wanted to have Lili christened in the U.K.

  40. Athena says:

    Even if they had the christening in the UK would they invite Will and Kate? Maybe William knew he wasn’t invited so he put a story out that he said no to the christening at Windsor.
    Can anyone living in the town of Windsor have their child baptized at the Church in Windsor or is it only available to the Royals?

  41. Steph says:

    The Royals won’t have time? Their calendars are scheduled 6 months in advance? Gimme a f*cking break. We’ve seen so many stunts by them to know 90% of their schedule is reactionary. We’ve seen, especially Kate, cancel shit last second, day of. If their is an American christening (if one at all) and they don’t come, it’s bc they don’t want to.

    • Lorelei says:

      Yeah Kate is definitely too busy. For sure.

      • goofpuff says:

        Botox, hair appointments, nail appointments, shopping that all takes so much time. I’d add taking care of her children, but I think Nanny Maria really handles all that with the team of part-time nannies they have. And they have a cook and housekeeper, gardener, and more staff like assistants.

  42. Here4tea says:

    What a deeply unpleasant individual. Unlike poor little George and his siblings, Archie and Lili are not commodities to be wheeled out to appease the mob. Any decisions H &M make regarding their children are their business and no one else’s. I, for one, hope H & M NEVER ALLOW any pictures of A & L to be published.

  43. Chichi says:

    Ugh, these people are so bitter and thirsty to see this child. It’s frankly quite disgusting.

    • Tessa says:

      It is so sickening. The comments sections have the bots proclaiming The Sussexes are not
      welcome here.

  44. MarJo says:

    It is not as if an Anglican christening can only happen in England.
    There are a dozen Anglican churches in California and plenty of Anglican priests. Harry and Meghan can christen the baby in America in the Anglican faith if they want, can’t understand the drama.

  45. Janice Hill says:

    The whole thing is so very un-Christian of the royals who are involved in blocking the Windsor christening.

    • Here4Tea says:

      Exactly! “God sees your tricks.” ( Anne Boleyn , Bring Up The Bodies). A bit dramatic but appropriate.

    • Janice Hill says:

      Harry seems sentimental and I think him wanting to have his daughter christened at Windsor is a sentimental choice. If it’s true that other royals are blocking it (I believe that), then it is an insult to him. If it is true, I sure do hope he puts it in his memoir. Names should be named on this one because it’s so petty.

    • Alexandria says:

      Also unChristian of the gossips (they’re not journalists and writers) to relentlessly attack the Sussex family over a simple christening.

      Andrew is right there yo.

  46. Nope says:

    Imagine being this invested in a baby you’ve never met… These people are ridiculous. One Meghan + Harry are irrelevant, the next minute their baby’s christening is the most important thing ever. Which is it?

  47. Tessa says:

    Ingrid Seward turned on Diana too. It makes me wonder, since Ingrid is a self proclaimed friend of Charles. I wonder why he appears to condone her negativity about Harry and Meghan.

  48. Tessa says:

    I doubt the baby when she grows up would appreciate a photo of Uncle William with his jaw clenched and looking “incandescent” sitting near her in the family photo at the Christening.

  49. Gigi says:

    I don’t understand why they keep focusing on Windsor Castle. Lili could just as easily be christened in Scotland and meet her namesake at the same time, if they are so damn concerned with both these things and not the location.

  50. Likeyoucare says:

    I think lilibet is to young to introduce to racism.

    Maybe H&M only want lilibet senior during the christening and doesnt want the other racist to come.

    But, charlie and willie insisting to bring their own racist rota and photographers.

  51. blunt talker says:

    I don’t know if the Sussexes asked for a christening at Windsor or not -but one thing I am certain Harry Meghan would have to let the royal rota have access to the ceremony and take pictures to be published-they either let the royal rats have their way or no ceremony-simple as that. God bless the Sussex family and keep them in your heart.

  52. blunt talker says:

    PS-Harry and Meghan have already stated their children will be raised how they think they should be-If anyone can tell me-why is it wrong for Harry and Meghan to raise their own children as they see fit-why is it wrong for them to work and provide for their own children-the British press, royalists, and most biographers on royalty act like shitgibbons on everything they do-they are not bothering anyone on salty isle-those people have a dead cell in the brain to constantly write about a couple who left over 18 months ago-pure stupidity and pure evil-minded.

  53. TeamMeg says:

    This might be a dumb question but why is it so important for Lilibet to be “christened” at all? She already has a legal name. I don’t think Harry and Meghan attend church regularly or are practicing Anglicans. Perhaps they are, though. Maybe it’s just a royal tradition and a non-negotiable.