Real talk: Alice Evans is going to be very, very lucky if her divorce is finalized and she ends up with any kind of custody of their children. Not only that, I believe we’re probably only weeks away from Ioan Gruffudd asking the court for a restraining order against Alice. While Alice has made it clear that she’s going to tweet through her own self-sustaining shambles against the advice of her lawyers, I have to think that eventually the court will order her to STFU on social media. A few days ago, Alice posted an old photo of herself and Ioan with the message: “Oops! This came up when I was going through old photos. No offence to the ‘New Girfriend’.” This is her entire shtick at this point. Then it got worse. She re-posted the photo with Ioan edited out, and she included this message:
I just want to apologize to all those people who felt I was being unkind to Bianca (my husband’s mistress) by posting a pic of me and my 20 year love together.
It must have hurt her a lot, the idea that he may have been still sleeping with his wife, or even taking photos with her.
I’m sorry Bianca. He is yours of course.
I’ve taken him out. Now you won’t have to worry.
Love
Alice
What in the psychosis are we dealing with here? Is her aim to “get under the skin” of Bianca, Ioan’s girlfriend? Is it to get under Ioan’s skin? Because I doubt either of them care. This is the one time a guy getting a divorce can truly say, with a wealth of examples, that his ex is crazy. Alice basically has a new lease on life now that she knows Ioan has a girlfriend, and she’s hellbent on harassing them online and obsessing over them and trying to “shame” them publicly.
She also posted this on Twitter:
Know what I can't get over?
This is Christmas 2019.
He was ALREADY WITH HER.
He had already promised her he would leave us.
If you look at his face, there is something there..But God – I was in heaven. I had absolutely NO IDEA. pic.twitter.com/drdQ3gJ2ef
— Alice Evans (@AliceEvansGruff) November 7, 2021
Photos courtesy of Backgrid, Instagram.
She is Betty Broderick 2.0. She is losing it.
Oh man Netflix got me so hooked on that story and I went down a full rabbit hole. I gotta say she had some legitimate grievances (not about him leaving her and marrying someone else but him screwing her out of a fair divorce settlement after she put him thorough medical and law school). Not clear Alice Evans has the same grievances although she’s clearly in a lot of pain and not emotionally equipped to handle it.
Oh yeah, Dan Broderick was no saint at all. However, Betty was her own worst enemy. She could not help herself and in her eyes, she was constantly a victim and never an instigator in many of her own problems. I am old enough to remember her being on Oprah and in the media, and Alice Eve is on the same path. It’s uncanny.
In therapy I hear “fighting against reality only causes more suffering” and Alice is a great example of that. Of course it is painful and horrible that your husband cheated on and left her. I doubt anyone would deny that. But instead of accepting reality and doing her best in that reality, she is fighting that he’s left and moved on. That’s only hurting her more and making her look bad. Betty did the same, to an extent..although it seems like Dan actively tried to make it harder for Betty. But either way, you have to accept the reality and move on.
All good points, and cold blooded murder is never the answer (nor is playing mind games with young children, which seems to be happening here).
I completely forgot about the Broderick! Nice call back!
Alice seems scary…she should move on with her life.
Whatever her ex did or did not do, it’s best to let things go and rebuild your life.
Alice has no right to harass her ex or his girlfriend.
Life is often hard and not fair, but that does not give Alice the right to harass anybody.
She should spend her time rather to seek therapy and help herself to have a better life.
I was thinking this too. She needs to get a hobby before this gets any worse. If I was the husband and new girlfriend I would go nowhere near the US right now. She mentioned killing herself a week ago, so it sounds like she has nothing left to lose.
I hope someone is watching out for her children.
This concerns me for their daughter, she wants to hurt him so bad. I’m really afraid this is going to end badly.
She desperately needs an intervention. She needs to be working through this with a therapist, not on social media.
If she is talking about suicide, you can bet she’d do what she could to hurt him in the worst way she could on the way “out”, and that is to harm the kids. I hope someone screen shot it and sent it to CPS.
I think you are right, this isn’t going to end well unless someone steps in. I fear for the children I hope someone is looking out for them.
Where is he right now? I know he’s working abroad but if my (soon to be ex) spouse was acting this irrationally I’m damn sure I’d be home making sure my kids were okay.
Seriously, this is heading for family annihilator territory right quickly.
Oh my goodness yes! Betty 2.0! And I have sympathy for both women, but that doesn’t justify their actions. It’s ok to be angry and hurt going through a divorce and believing (true or not) that your husband was cheating. But not having the self control to keep it between yourself, your therapist, and your most trusted confidant is scary to everyone around them, especially the kids. She really really needs to read some chump lady or coparenting with a narcissist blogs. I wonder if Betty Broderick had access to the kind of advice on the internet these days about how to conduct yourself during a divorce from an AH, if she would have realized she was hanging herself in regards to her custody battle. Probably not, considering she was on a cocktail of meds and had a personality disorder according to some. I get it, it’s not fair, it hurts…but get it together and stay strong and stable for the kids. I don’t think that her husband was a saint in this, and she obviously believes somehow that he was seeing this woman and even promising to leave his wife. But she’s making it too easy for people to take his side, even if she is telling the truth here, everyone thinks she’s just some crazy bitter ex wife because of how she’s behaving. And I’m not saying I believe her side or his side, this whole situation is a mess and their kids don’t need this all over social media. He didn’t seem to care about being with his kids full time, but she better watch out because he could be lining up a stepmother to care for them while he’s working if she keeps it up.
By acting out like this, she’s inadvertently giving cover to her husband and his girlfriend.
You’re right @ Layla Beans. Scarily like Broderick. I remember that story in the news way back then and the made for tv movie with Meredith Baxter Birney (who did an excellent job). Eonline had a pretty detailed write up about it last year.
https://www.eonline.com/news/1157789/the-eye-opening-true-events-behind-dirty-john-the-betty-broderick-story
The Meredith Baxter movie is on Amazon and Tubi (I think or maybe Roku) and it’s worth the watch.
Betty’s husband was truly terrible to her (not condoning her murders) so I feel Alice is way overreacting compared to Betty. Yes both felt betrayed but criminal behavior is not acceptable. Isn’t Alice letting herself to be arrested for cyber bullying? I think what she is doing is illegal.
It is very hard to remove minor kids from their mother. A few social media outbursts will not be enough to strip her of custody. Though she is not doing herself any favours most would argue that she is just hurting and not a danger to anyone.
Some of her comments have made it clear that she’s manipulating the children (i.e. her 8 year old is too upset to go to school and begged her dad not to get a girlfriend, this is not normal).
She also admitted to interrupting their video calls with him to try to talk to him.
So she could certainly be on the road to having custody issues. She’s hurting the kids.
Video calls that were court mandated and scheduled on a line set up by the court.
That she broke the rules too when she got inlvolved in his call and accused him of gaslighting her
It’s not hard when the mother is giving the courts MULTIPLE reasons why she shouldn’t have custody of the children.
You can indeed lose custody if engaging in obvious parental alienation tactics. What this woman is doing is so emotionally damaging to the kids.
Yes she’s going through a breakdown. But I doubt there’s alienation. This guy is no father. He’s too busy with his new relationship to be there for the girls, as well. She’s at least there
He’s cold as ice.
She needs to get this jerk in the rear view mirror and sue for custody, get therapy, get money and stay off social media until she heals. That’s the only way to get to him. He’s enjoying this. So is the girlfriend. Trust me.
Family therapy would be best.
There’s no evidence of that whatsoever. He is working with his lawyers for custody and staying quiet. He posted one picture, I don’t get why everyone is making it seem like it’s in any way comparable to her being on Twitter and IG ranting about him literally 24/7 (seriously, check her Twitter feeds, you can scroll for 10 mins and it will still just be an hour before!)
Why would they be “enjoying” her harassing him and forcing others to harass him??
@Maria Do we have evidence that he wants custody? I agree with you that he’s keeping quiet, but that could mean a number of things.
Considering she has mentioned that his lawyers have stated she is likely to lose custody with this behavior I would say yes. He filed for 50/50 at the start and she said she didn’t want it. It’s only gotten more unhinged since.
Eh, in a perfect world, yes, but most states have the basic rule that as long as a parent can feed, cloth, send to school, and not leave the child(ren) in a dangerous situation, then they’re considered “good” parents who deserve joint custodial rights.
It’s actually not hard at all if Mom is unstable. The issue here is that Alice has been the primary caretaker for these children so I think it’s unlikely that she will lose primary custody unless he can show that it isn’t in the children’s best interest to be with their mother.
It is not “very hard” to remove minor kids from their mother, it happens all the time! Why we keep saying this, in spite of people’s experiences saying otherwise, is beyond me. Maybe it makes us feel better as a society when a mother loses custody, we look & say “oh, she must have really deserved it” (ie: Britney Spears). Divorcing men don’t usually fight for full custody of their kids, which is why stats are as they are, but if they do, the power dynamic is skewed.
This particular story aside, the narrative push that mothers are protected & supported needs to stop- it isn’t reality & it’s not helpful.
Kelly Rutherford didn’t get away with it. Her lawyer leaked info to get her ex-husband deported (something about his business dealings and who knows, maybe there was some shadiness going on) and when that happened, the judge decided the kids should live full-time with her ex as his visa had gotten revoked and he couldn’t enter the US to see his own kids. Her plot to keep her ex out of their children’s lives blew up in her face when she found herself having to visit Monaco and being the non-custodial parent. I could see something similar occurring here.
I remember that mess. Wonder how crazy Kelly is doing now.
I was just going to bring up Kelly Rutherford, since Alice reminds me of her.
Very good point, Amelie. And it really worries me for the kids as it is possible he doesn’t WANT full custody. I mean, we don’t know what he wants right now. I hope he DOES want full custody as that would mean he is worried for the kids, nad SOMEONE needs to be. But what we do know is that he has not been around much at all for quite some time. Yes, he was working, but still, he was away from his kids and that COULD have been a choice. The idea that their mother is so untable that they could be taken away and be made to live with a dad that doesn’t want them full time is so sad. (Again, I know we don’t know that is true. I hope it isn’t.)
This is beyond a few posts. She is on social media all day every day harassing him, Bianca, his former coworkers, etc. It is getting threatening.
and her supporters are egging her on. It’s getting dangerous. This level of obsession is frightening. I understand she’s hurting, but cut your losses, get a good settlement, some good therapy, and move on.
She clearly is unstable. However, I don’t get the impression he would even want full custody. He sounds pretty absent.
I don’t think it’s “absent” as much as he’s *working* to pay the bills and support the family. I don’t Alice is working at all (unless you count her getting her lips pumped regularly and/or posting on SM). As an actor, he *has* to go where the work is.
Now, whether he *wants* full custody? That is a whole other story. Maybe he does, and he’s getting the ducks in a row, letting AE outburst all this venom/psychosis in public, maybe not. Maybe he’s a shit dad who likes to play dad when it’s convenient. We really don’t know.
From what we *do* see, it seems like he’s trying to work, stay in court approved contact with his kids, and move on w/his life.
@Jan90067 has it right, we really don’t know.
He’s a working actor, not a star. If he demanded that a project be shot only in Los Angeles or only during summer break the producers would laugh and move on to the next actor on their list. He doesn’t have that kind of clout.
So the other options would be to limit himself only to projects shot in California (again, not a big enough star, and far too much shoots elsewhere. A VERY big gamble if he did and he would be unlikely to work much); or take the family with you. Some stars opt for to travel as a family, switching to tutoring or homeschooling while away, but if that doesn’t work between the spouses then that can be equally disastrous. As strange as it seems from the outside, his absences for work are not that uncommon for Hollywood actors. It’s never exactly been a shining example for long marriages and stable families!
We don’t even need to imagine. She has straight-up said she’s telling her kids that daddy rejected and left them. She even bragged about convincing one of the daughters not to see their dad unless he comes in to the home (I can’t be the only one thinking murder-suicide, right).
I’m honestly surprised her lawyers haven’t fired her, because she’s sabotaging any chance of a favorable ruling, and family courts tend to find in favor of the mom (unless the mom does some truly terrible / stupid things).
Actually, the statistics around what percentage of fathers “win” custody are very nuanced and would probably surprise you. Most fathers don’t have more custody because they didn’t ask for it and are happy with the woman handling the majority of the child rearing even after divorce. In cases involving abuse and alienation claims, the father (accused of abuse) wins custody between 60-82% of the time. It’s precariously easy for a mother to lose custody if the father is determined enough.
I don’t know who these people are but- wow! She is def her own worst enemy.
Agreed. She is currently giving a masterclass in what NOT to do when your relationship ends.
@ Tisme : I am wondering who will hire Alice after this public debacle. She is an actress and has been successful (mid-range) but she is not revealing a good side of herself here. Directors don’t want unstable people on the set. It’s too much of a risk.
I don’t see how anyone can defend the behavior of this woman, while simultaneously calling Ioan a narcissist in the same breath. There should also be none of the both sides nonsense either. Her behavior is insane.
+1.
Her behavior REEKS of an untreated personality disorder.
If it was a man behaving this way towards an ex, people would be up in arms over this abusive, stalker is behavior. Nobody would be defending. Alice being hurt over the divorce is no excuse for her actions. This is harassment.
Uh what? There are plenty of couples where both are narcissists or both have personality disorders or both are abusive. Like my parents. I was that scraggly kid who just hung awkwardly around other people’s houses for too long, either trying to blend into the scenery or trying to make myself so useful they wanted me there. So that I could stay out of my parents’ house and their daily battles which they both obviously enjoyed. Just because Alice is an abusive narcissist doesn’t mean Ioan is not also a narcissist, that just doesn’t make it okay or excusable for her to abuse him.
And yet just because there are couples like that who exist doesn’t mean he is one. He’s been totally silent this whole time…..except for one perfectly normal IG picture. Because he wants to get this over with and not harm the children.
Enough people have gone over his narcissistic behavior that I really don’t have to repeat it or argue. Her being a narcissist does not mean he’s not one, nor does it make her behavior okay. However, when it comes around to his behavior, his behavior is not okay regardless of what Alice does or doesn’t do. They deserve each other honestly, I have sympathy for the children and the children only. Both of them made the selfish choice to reproduce with each other and bring innocent children into their fucked up mess. I should also add that running away and leaving your children alone with a SEVERELY mentally ill mother who is acting out and deranged, is, in an of itself an abusive thing to do, which men usually get a totally free pass on, as my father did. They get oodles of sympathy for escaping, of course they want to be away from the crazy bitch!! So they leave their minor children completely at her abusive whims day in and day out to be psychologically destroyed in a way that will never be able to be fixed.
Running away for a year an a half and leaving his children at the mercy of a deranged psychopath is not the act of a “caring daddie who just cares so much about not harming the children.” It’s the act of a narcissist who does not give a single shit about the children and it’s yet another example of how men get praised to the skies for their parenting while being a neglectful deadbeat whose actions will lead to permanent damage of the children.
It’s amazing how Karens rush to defend deadbeat fathers if they are “good-looking.” Promise he wouldn’t be receiving a single word of praise on here for his abandonment of his daughters to the whims of a psycho if he looked like Sean Penn.
Where have people gone on about his narcissistic behavior?
What exactly makes his behavior not okay? He’s probably doing exactly what the lawyers are telling him to do for his safety and well-being and that of the children. Which is more than she can say, as she herself admits she won’t even listen to her lawyers.
He was working and supporting the family, not running away. He’s using lawyers to get custody of his children as she has also admitted (given she has admitted he filed for 50/50 because he wanted to coparent – at first anyway- and she has stated she doesn’t want that, that also gives a good picture of what’s going on). Do you suggest he just steal the children? Do you think that’s going to end well for him in both the media and law? She’s implied he actually abused them before, then says they spend all their time crying for him, then says she’ll make sure the kids won’t be okay with his new partners, she intrudes on their chats, she’ll use them however she can to “get back at him”.
I’m sorry about your father but we have no idea what exactly is going on with them; however, her evidence is giving us a pretty good idea.
By the way a Karen is a person who requires special handling and favors and demands their abusive behavior be forgiven and catered to, whether because they’re always the victim or they’re “having a rough time” – sound like anyone in this story to you?
I didn’t even know who these people were before her outbursts and now the rest of us are paying attention.
You are projecting a LOT.
Lola, I don’t think “Karen” means what you think it means.
I’m well aware of what it means, and one thing it means is caping for deadbeat fathers who abandon their children to live at the 24/7 whims of a psycho, and other forms of abusive, monstrous behavior, as long as the man is a hot white man. All the passes for the hot white man, from the Karens. All the understanding and sympathy in the world.
He may or may not be a complete narcissist, or just a generic a**hat. And he may or may not be a terrible dad. But that’s for the judge to decide. In terms of the separation, his public behavior has been appropriately tight-lipped. Whatever his personality is like in private, he’s obviously got enough self-control and self-awareness to follow his lawyer’s advice and look like a functioning adult.
@Lola. LOLOLOL. No that is not what being a “Karen” means. You might want to co-opt it to mean what you want but it definitely don’t mean what you imply.
It specifically refers to a white woman who uses her whiteness to harass and call the police on ordinary black people just going about their daily business because she felt that they either are doing something that she feels they have no right to do and she is just a mean vindictive racist bitch who is going to make them pay.
Just typing that just makes me feel sorry all over again for the innocent women named Karen.
This woman is fkn nuts. She’s totally going to be on the receiving end of a TRO.
Noteworthy that we still have no proof that he cheated with the new girlfriend. Also, he left nearly a year ago, he’s not your husband.
She created her own imaginary world and believes it’s reality. Insane, poor kids.
Yikes, Watch her socials get shut down for harassment. She should stop, but I doubt she will do that. Surely her lawyers warned her about her behavior risking custody of her kids? What is she even thinking?
she says she has nothing to lose anyway. And yes, both her lawyers and her real life friends think she shouldn’t do that.
She has some pretty sociopathic followers on twitter (which she calls her friends) that are constantly egging her on. And she rather listens to them. Sad sad situation.
Well she wrote in the Daily Mail how her army of lawyers keep giving her advice but she thinks she knows better.
How is she paying for an army of lawyers, come to think of it?
I hardly knew who Ioan was 3 weeks ago and now I’m determined to support any future project he’s on.
Just because she’s trying so hard to destroy him – AND THEIR CHILDREN.
I follow her Twitter and Insta now. She’s basicly just proving that he’s actually a good dad doing the parenting from afar while she’s trying hard to make the girls hate him and doing no parenting at all.
What the hell?
I know him from the one season show Forever that was on ABC a few years ago. It sucks it got cancelled but it’s worth checking out! It was an enjoyable show.
Agree AmelieOriginal! I never knew who he was before that show and I loved it! He and Judd Hirsch were great together. Wish this show would get another go around.
The only thing I knew him from was the Fantastic Four movies. He played Jessica Alba’s stretchy husband.
Loved Forever. So disappointed when it was cancelled.
I first saw Ioan in Horatio Hornblower. That was another great show.
I’ll always associate him with Titanic. I frequently find myself imitating his accent when I shout “Is anyone alive out there?! Can anybody hear me?!” Lol
He’s in the show Harrow on Hulu. It’s pretty good, although the last season had a super annoying arc, I still enjoyed it.
He starred in a fabulous BBC mini-series called Horatio Hornblower based on the books. Great story and cast and he really grew as an actor during that.
Chris Evans was with him in fantastic four. Said a year or so ago he was one of the nicest, funniest guys he’s ever worked with. He’d been asked the question and said since everyone knew how close he was with his MCU costars, he’d go back to older films.
If someone’s ex was this crazy, I’d have to take a hard pass.
That’s what I was thinking. No one is worthy this headache.
I thought the same! Does the new woman really find this guy worth it?
That’s probably her intention.
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I dont think it will last. She was probably an exit strategy for him from a terrible unhappy marriage and a step up for her. Alice needs to watch out she doesn’t get sued to high heaven by the new woman, as well as destroying her ex husbands career. Because he isn’t that famous, and if he becomes too much hassle to hire because of her hysterics, casting agents will just move onto the next person, so she’ll be getting 50% of nothing.
Get. Those. Kids. Out. Of. There.
Yeah, we’ve all seen this dance before with obsessed possessive husbands—and it seldom ends well.
Someone get Alice a copy of “He’s Just Not That Into You” stat.
If she loses custody, she will use the fact to continue getting attention on Twitter, to write about it on tabloidams… I can even see her going to talk shoe to sieak about how Ioan “destroyed” her life.
What is supposed to be on his face? It’s a face of a happy dad playing a game with small children and purpusefully overreacting for their enjoyment. So, normal modern dad behaviour.
I think she’s going on about the fact that he knew at that that point he was going to leave and was only “acting happy”. Which is another symptom of what a narcissistic twit she seems to be as regardless if he was? He was acting happy FOR HIS CHILD. I’m deeply disturbed she can’t grasp the concept of shielding your children where possible.
And in any event using those images of her daughter like that? Gross, just gross.
he never looks at her directly in the video but how much can any one vid of one moment over the course of years together reveal?
the fact she doesn’t have worse than this to post suggests he’s not the monster she claims because you KNOW she’d post the dirty laundry if she could
This is quite unsettling.
And of course she had no idea, it seems like he was trying to find a way out without this whole reaction happening.
She thinks this proves something but it just makes it look like she was so potentially volatile he had to plan his escape delicately and play act for a while to get out.
That’s not flattering to her like she seems to think it is.
Yeah, I’ve waited to really form an opinion but it seems like he was most likely expecting this OTT drama from her so he probably wanted out years ago but stayed because he didn’t want to deal with this. I mean he’s been living separately from her for years now for work right?
The thing is rather than breaking them up, which is obviously what she tries to achieve here, this will probably make them grow closer, All the while she loses any credit by proving that he had good reasons to leave her.
When I commented about Ioan making that post on IG about he and Bianca and not thinking it through, I got several comments saying I was wrong.
This is what I was talking about and yeah, I was right.
Nobody disputed your point that Alice Evans would have an unhinged reaction. We disputed that that’s on Ioan, which it isn’t, because this is abuse.
exactly Maria. also worth pointing out that she’d have probably lashed out with some new nonsense regardless of whether he announced his girlfriend. with abusers, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t, so why live your life walking on eggshells?
Or he’s exactly thinking it through, if he’s trying to compile evidence for a custody hearing.
I know someone who did this. She could not and did not move on. She unloaded about the husband on to the kids. She refused to see a counselor. She would debrief the kids after a visit with their father and his new GF.
She never got over it or out from under the weight of the end of her marriage. Even decades later – and she always blamed the women slightly more than the husband. Although she did blame the husband too, somehow the women were the obstacle to reforming him.
Alice needs professional help. Her kids need her to be an adult right now, because the break up of the family is happening to THEM.
@MissMelissa I bet she is bitter until this day isn’t she?
I know someone who was bitter her husband moved his secretary in 3 months after she moved out, but yet, she herself was someone’s mistress for 10 years after her and her husband split and she finally stopped complaining about the ex husband once her bf left his wife for her.
This woman won’t move on until she finds another man and even then, she probably won’t let it go.
@Andrea – wow that’s messed up and also how do people find the time and energy for this much drama??
Im not seeing anything crazy. Thats also an extremely ableist thing to say. This woman is hurt and angry, but she doesn’t seem wrong. It sounds like she was treated very poorly and lied to. She needs a therapist, but calling her crazy for calling out her ex and his mistress seems like a weird take on her valid emotions.
yeah i feel like she’s behaving badly but then she must be devastated to act this way? I mean I don’t know where i stand but I usually like to give women the benefit of the doubt rather than slandering them. also some women don’t feel like being/ can’t be ‘mature’ about shit. a little nutso is fine except for the effect on the kids 🙁
How do you know Bianca was his mistress? We only have Alice’s word, and she has repeatedly lied or misrepresented the truth to fit whatever narrative she wants. She can be devastated, but she’s alienating her children from their dad and slandering him in public and threatening suicide, all because he dared to leave her. That is classic emotionally abusive and narcissistic behavior. Women are not always the victims.
That he did not see for 13 months . And that Alice pretended to know
She is entitled to feel hurt and devastated that her husband pulled the plug on them, of course. But uh, she’s no saint. She cheated on her last boyfriend to be with Ioann, she dated Picasso’s grandson and admitted to hiding her relationship with Ioann while she was still with him. You can find all that info if you google. What goes around comes around if her ex-husband actually cheated.
But we have no proof that Bianca is Ioann’s mistress, Alice is tweeting all this info with zero proof that they were dating before Ioann broke up with her (which I believe dates to January 2021). If it is true, it sucks but it doesn’t give her the right to harass her ex and Bianca online. We also know she was interrupting video chat time Ioann had with his daughters, barging in to try to communicate with him about things that were not related to Ioann’s video chat sessions with his daughters.
September 2019 was when he told her
That is when the first IG/Twitter comments were made
@Fortuona: oh you’re right! I think January 2021 was when she announced it to the world on Twitter he was leaving her, but she had known for a few months. I think they had another argument about him leaving her and he deleted her original tweet when she leaked it to the world… She wanted the attention and to try to shame him into staying with her it seems.
That was probably when he was talking to his family and she decided to post it
And if you go back she went on the first posting fest was in September then took it down
I don’t see how anyone could look at her social media and think her reactions are healthy and appropriate.
She was being aggy on social media before the new girlfriend came into play. So, I’m sorry, but she needs to take a break from her social accounts and stay focused on her kids and getting her life back together without him being in it as her partner. Repeatedly lashing out on social media is NOT okay. If you had an ex doing this to you, you would call them crazy. You would call it harassement. You would feel unsafe.
Is she having valid emotions to this or is this typical behavior and he finally managed to extricate himself from someone who sucks up all the air in the room with Daytime Emmy worthy Dramatics when the world doesn’t go her way? This behavior is not normal, this behavior isn’t typical. Stop saying that a woman has a right to harass and threaten people because she’s hurt, if this were a man doing this you would NOT be making excuses. Stop with shrugging the shoulders when a parent throws their kids in the middle of a divorce and tries to turn their children against the other parent. He left HER not Them. Just stop.
She is misrepresenting things for example he told her in September it was over and he was done so ya they knew at Xmas.. Also there is no evidence he cheated.
@Puffy – she is unhinged and unstable. This is not the behaviour of someone who is hurt, it is someone hellbent on revenge. My partner’s ex-wife behaved EXACTLY like this when she left him. That’s right, she left him, yet as soon as the ink dry on the separation agreement she started publicly harassing him to reconcile. She would email him dozens of times a day, send 10 page letters, call incessantly, it was nuts. When she found out he’d started seeing someone else (me) 6 months after their divorce she too started telling everyone that we’d carried on an affair when they were still together, faked an illness, threatened suicide, it was awful. We finally had to block her email and phone numbers (she just got another number and email address) and finally got a restraining order.
Being hurt is one thing, we’ve all been there, but this kind of behaviour is emotional blackmail — especially going after his girlfriend. What Alice is attempting here is a carefully orchestrated smear campaign to discredit her and Ioan and gain sympathy, and it shows clearly how sick she really is.
She’s encouraging her followers to harass another woman who may or may not have been involved with Ioan before their separation. I don’t care how much pain she says she’s in, that’s unacceptable.
She freely and fully admits that she interrupted a court scheduled video call between Ioan and their daughter to yell at him, knowing full well and in agreement that communication between the two is through the courts.
I’ve been through a divorce. It sucks, no matter how much you want/need the marriage to end. Especially when courts are involved.
If the gender roles were reversed and Ioan was on social media egging on harassment of Alice’s new boyfriend, we’d call him a dangerous possessive POS. She doesn’t get a pass on clearly demonstrated behavior because she’s a woman.
*especially when kids are involved
Tell us you don’t have kids, without telling us you don’t have kids OP.
If you have kids this is absolutely unstable, toxic behavior that ultimately just hurts them.
You don’t “call your ex out” on the damn internet, especially when famous, when you have kids. Valid emotions are zero excuse and dealt with in private. Bringing it into the public arena does absolutely nothing but hurt her children HERSELF. She’s taken this beyond a cheating situation and made it into a freak show.
She’s not only done that, she’s undertaken an entire campaign to do nothing but that online for like a year now. She’s basically torturing her own children by behaving this way in public in a manner that is on record FOREVER. Her behavior will haunt her children for the rest of their lives. Anytime they try to get a job, or meet new people, the first Google results under their names will be this mess thanks to their mom.
None of that is valid. You’re simply excusing an emotional abuser because you can’t accept human beings will be unfaithful and adults STILL have to deal with that in a mature adult way. Not throw temper tantrums online indefinitely because they can’t regulate their emotions and are histrionic.
That is a childish mentality. “Oh he cheated, I gotta get him in public now. I gotta “clap back”, put him on blast” NO. Only immature, toxic, self destructive people do this. This is not the way the real world works. And anybody who acts this way will find out real quick once in court.
Be an adult.
Her emotions are valid. I’m sure most of us have been left distraught at the end of a relationship. Most of us have probably resented an ex’s new partner, too. Some of us have probably even blamed the new partner (however unfairly) for causing the breakup. Yes, those feelings are all normal. But feelings are not the problem here! The issue is her BEHAVIOR. When most of us feel as she does, we have a good cry and vent to understanding friends who are kind enough to comfort us and not bring it up later on when the heartache passes and we’re embarrassed that we ever felt that way. She’s trying to ruin his life, incite harassment of his new girlfriend, and worst of all, sabotage his relationship with his children. Indefensible.
+1000
You have a right to your emotions. You don’t have the right to hurt other people because of your emotions. You especially don’t have the right to hurt your children because of your emotions.
Seriously. Bad CBT has created a lot of people who seem to think that having an emotion means a blank check for doing whatever harm comes to mind.
It’s emotional abuse and I hope she gets a TRO soon.
Her behaviour is indefensible.
this is the first I’ve read of it. And no it is not acceptable. People can lose their footing and it is not dignified. I don’t know what to think.
This I had no idea he was leaving from Christmas is shit as he told her in September
This woman needs professional psychological help. I understand that she is hurting and feels betrayed and having an emotional breakdown post a breakup is definitely something many of us have experienced (to varying degrees), but I don’t think she will be able to « look » at herself, which is the hard work one has to do in therapy. She’s in a fantasy land, and it’s not a nice one, it’s a dangerous one for herself and her kids.
Dang ! She is acting nuts!
Ps: I am going through a separation now… must likely a divorce soon and all you can do it’s remain sane. My soon to be ex husband , basically disappeared for 6 months with minimal contact and all his excuse was work . I finally sat down with him this weekend and told him it was over and that I don’t want a part time relationship. Separation/ divorce sucks but she is definitely hurting herself more by acting this way…. And she is also messing her own kids, which is monstrous.
Good luck to you!
Wishing you luck as you go through this!
Thank you @JADED @BOOKIE ! Really sucks and I think I have never cried so much in my life but picking up the pieces and moving on with my life. Pretty hard and we have no kids together ( now probably will just have them on my own ) but still hurts. Still , just because someone is in pain doesn’t mean we can’t control our emotions. Alice is in pain but she is hurting her children more than she is hurting the ex .
I have 2 friends going through it now too, and it sucks. It’s a sucky, hard, depressing thing, but Alice is handling it so very poorly. For her sake, and the sake of the kids, I hope she gets it together and moves forward in a healthier way.
She needs therapy, stat! She’s clearly in pain and processing openly online, which would be fine if there weren’t innocent children involved. I doubt Loan will want full custody as he seems to enjoy being away and filming.
I feel like this woman has no friends to help her realize how psychotic she looks to the rest of the world…
Maybe he enjoyed being away and filming because this is how she behaves. I could not imagine behaving this way, nor dealing with a person behaving this way. She’s definitely doing it to help alienate his children from him, and to make him so toxic in a relationship he either has to be alone, or back with her. It’s disturbing, and the amount of people still trying to yeah, but he….. is awful. She is the only one behaving terribly, I don’t understand why she gets so much benefit of the doubt, as if hers was the only marriage/relationship that ended in the past 18 months.
While he was enjoying himself being away, his children were stuck with her. Not fair, not right, not kind.
You can bet that if he made an attempt to bring either of them with him she would have screamed kidnapping. This situation is ugly.
I get the feeling he was filming because he was the one of the two that had job offers to support them. It’s very possibly that they had an agreement (back before) that he would work and the kids would stay where they were for school, etc. To use his working against him without any other information is really reaching.
This whole case has me gender switching to make sure I’m being fair. Her last role was in 2015 as part of TV series (3 episodes). He has steadily worked. Bills have to be paid. Children have to be cared for.
So if a mother had a job and the father was unemployed (purposefully or not), the one not working would reasonably be the one expected to provide childcare and the working one worked.
At this point, even if he had been carrying on an affair, this is an outrageous way of going about things, particularly since there are minor children involved.
You do not get to harass your ex, even if they are a cheater.
But honestly, I don’t know how anyone can believe anything she says. Her own behavior has put me firmly on the side that he’s suffered years of emotional abuse from this woman and likely spent years managing that abuse and trying to extricate himself to no avail.
I’m worried for him and his girls. And for his new gf.
Yes!!!! Put aside her constant contradictions and lack of proof to anything she is accusing him of, if he was the world’s worst monster her behavior is so counter to her cause. She looks immature, vindictive and selfish and a court would be negligent to allow her custody if this continues.
However, the more she rants the more it genuinely looks like he is a guy trying to end a toxic relationship as best he can and protect his children. She looks evil and not mentally well.
I am a Brit so I would like to ask can Californian divorce judge impose no airing of relationship breakdown and children’s issues via social media on BOTH parties permanently?
Would parent lost custody and or go to jail if they continue to live tweet separation/ divorce ?
I know it’s possible in New York to legally order a parent to not talk about the other parent to the children, a family court gag order. Not sure if it’s a thing in California, but if it is, it’s long overdue.
At this point I’m inclined to believe that literally the only reason why she has custody right now is because Ioan doesn’t want it.
Or because it is still going through the courts and because he still has to work
We have no idea what kind of legal machinations are occurring behind the scene. If you’re inclined to believe that Ioan doesn’t want custody, that’s a personal reaction; there’s no evidence for that whatsoever.
Thank you Merricat (aka Voice of Reason).
Lol, Jaded, thank you!
So far she has said that he first wanted 50/50 and that she’s been threatened by his lawyers she will loose custady.
How exatly he feels about any of this is of course still a mistery because he’s not a SM drama king.
She also said that she doesnt want 50/50
Yeah, she refuses 50/50 (which she blames on Bianca’s presence, like she’d be fine with that if there was no other woman). I guess it’s quite clear that she is planning to use the kids to tie him to her.
She’s also at the same time screaming he doesn’t want the children and that he wants to take them away (with his “mistress”).
This isn’t about the children at all, it’s about her punishing him where she knows it will hurt.
You do realize that the courts have been packed to the gills with cases for decades, right? It takes a long time for custody to be settled when there is a dispute, simply due to the fact that there are so many cases to be processed.
And that was BEFORE the global pandemic slowed everything down!
He can’t just walk out with the kids. Imagine if he did! He’s trying to do things the right way while she spirals out of control. No one knows what he wants, because he’s keep his mouth shut, like an adult.
Keep the bunnies away from this woman.
She’s definitely going through a real mental meltdown.
I’ve seen this behavior before in and out of the therapy room, and there could be an underlying mental disorder that exacerbate the emotional distress she’s in.
I feel so bad for those 2 little girls who will, eventually, read about this when the are older. Sigh
Reading about this will be the least of their emotional damage from her behavior. She’s acting like a child, and I don’t mean that as an insult b/c children are cool. I mean that she is not taking care of herself as an adult must when they are hurt if they want to heal and if they have to take care of actual children’s emotional needs. Anyone who grew up with an emotionally unstable parent knows the kids are surely already parenting her and will learn to curb and downplay their own needs to try to make her happy (or avoid making her more unhappy). Which is really sad. I hope he is willing and able to step up and take custody of them.
She shows it all to them, so they are reading about it now. She doesnt protect those girls at all from anything.
Alice is bonkers. I fear for those kids and the emotional damage she is doing to them.
Me too. This is what she shows to the public! Imagine behind closed doors…
She’s trying to push buttons to get a reaction from both of them – its enraging her that they are not engaging with her narcissism. His lawyers are just sitting back and letting her to their job for them – I guess time will tell about custody when the process gets there.
People like her will never change – she might calm down if/when she gets a new partner but what sane man is going to near her now given she is showing her ass to the world.
I hate cheaters but she is making me rooting for Ioan and his new girlfriend
@damn — If it makes it easier for you, she cheated on her fiancé with Ioan when they first started dating.
And there is no actual evidence that he cheated on Alice
(it’s a bit confusing because A’s timelines and narratives keep changing)
She needs to meet up with Brandi Glanville.
Totally agree with all the comments here. I have one question, and it’s probably a silly one. How do you pronounce his name? Is it pronounced like EE-AN (Ian)? EE-OAN? I have never seen this spelling before.
He’s Welsh so it’s “YO-an”
Yo-an Griffith, apparently.
It’s Welsh and is pronounced YO-an. Last name is pronounced like Griffith 🙂
She can’t seem to decide if he refused to have sex with her or if they were still sleeping together.
It does suck that he cheated.
There’s no real indication that he did. Alice has just decided they did because they worked on the same show. If she actually had proof she would have posted receipts by now.
Did she work on the show as it is not on her IMDB and with her limited credits it should be ? Or was she just friends with some of the staff?
Fortuna, she was an extra.
Isn’t anyone close to her trying to get her to see this is bad for her and her kids? I understand the hurt and betrayal. Most of us do, but FFS take a page out of maybe…AJ strategy. Stop this and get smart for yourself and the kids.
I’ve said this before on Alice posts, but my lawyer would have totally come UNGLUED if I’d behaved like this woman on social media. He made me deactivate all my profiles for a reason. Girl here is gunning for a Restraining Order and can kiss any hope of sole custody goodbye.
Is she living in the 21st century? Does she realize marriage is no longer this institution that forever stands holy in the eyes of God, so it is commonplace for people who separate to begin seeing other people….as opposed to remaining celibate while they hammer out the details of their divorce???
I guess according to her, Angelina is still married to Brad Pitt and they’re both just cheating on each other.
Your marriage was on the rocks for years. It finally died. Accept it, lady, and MOVE ON. Just because it surprised you doesn’t mean that isn’t true.
@mangoangelesque as much as I dislike her i think her former fiancé (Picasso’s grandson) was gay and that they are on good terms now (there’s a photo of the three of them)
According to one of her interviews she knew nothing of him being gay when she dumped him for Ioan, so it was good ole cheating on her part.
Stop making excuses for this deplorable woman (who’s also a racist right wing loonie on top of everything else).
She’s losing it and I’m actually afraid of what can happen. The children need protection
I just discovered that if you hover your mouse over the thumbnail photos in the post you’ll see how they are labeled and it’s hilarious. “Alice Evans Lips” is one and “Alice Evans Crazy” is another.
Don’t put a gun in her hands. She’s on a destructive path.
I don’t understand why so many are commenting as of Ioan were Brad Pitt with the bank account, name recognition, and career to pick any project, influence filming locations, or simply choose not to work until this is resolved.
Ioan is the very definition of working actor. He’s got to go where he lands the work and his work is what pays that household’s bills.
Why are we demonizing him for taking the work available to him?
Yes. In fact, what’s weird to me is that Alice & the kids didn’t go with him. He had to move for an acting job for a year or more (not sure of the exact timeframe?) and they just stayed behind, almost halfway round the globe?
As is usually the case, keyboard “supporters” are making an already scary situation so much worse. Encouraging her unhinged rants is all fun and games for them (until she hurts herself or someone else).
Her possessive, vindictive, abusive, controlling, obsessed stalking of her ex husband, his new girlfriend and everybody around him is beyond disturbing.
This isn’t a new thing, she’s been harassing people around him (especially women) for years. She has a very serious personality disorder and clearly made his life a misery.
When an abusive narcissist can no longer control you, they will try to control how others view you so you can be isolated, ostracised and destroyed. Hence, the pschyotic smear campaign.
Luckily for Ioan, this woman is so deranged that she has no self awareness as to how she is perceived, she doesn’t care that she’s showing everybody what he has to deal with behind closed doors or what their kids have to endure. She doesn’t understand that this is what killed their relationship long ago. She’s too self obsessed. Too busy trying to “win”. I hope he uses this to seek full custody.
My concern is that she’s a risk to those children. She’s doing everything she can to get a reaction from Ioan and those around him. They’re all ignoring her. Rightly.
However, abusers like this will escalate to any degree that they can hurt their victim. This is a woman who has repeatedly pretended she was going to commit suicide on SM for attention. I worry that she’ll decide to “show him” and earn victimhood by harming the kids and halfheartedly attempting to do the same to herself. Then she gets to “show” what he “drove” her to.
I really wish someone would remove them from that home. She is terrifying.
I think she is a drinker. Puffy face/ swollen midsection/crazy talk.
Mel, I was thinking the same thing. She slurs her words and babbles in so many of her Tweets.
I hope that she gets the help she needs for her own health and the kids. She’s got the financial resources to do so. She could come back happier and healthier than ever. She doesn’t seem to have family other than her kids (and she says that her father left her mother, and she’s never really gotten over that). I hope that she’s got someone – friends, maybe – who can sit her down and tell her the truth. She doesn’t need to keep spiraling.
I know she’s unhinged (to say the least) but I can’t help but feel sorry for her.
She must be in terrible pain and doesn’t seem to be getting the help she deperately needs.
P.S.: And for those who keep claiming she hasn’t been cheated on, that there’s no evidence of it…come on, look at the signs. Just because she’s lost it that doesn’t mean she isn’t right about a thing or two.
we also don’t know what has gone down between them, what he may have said to provoke her. remember when Britney shaved off her hair? it was a reaction to being threatened with losing custody of her kids. without that info, it seemed totally unhinged. I certainly can believe that this was a mutually abusive relationship and that they need to not be together. but just because he’s staying quiet doesn’t mean he’s blameless. could just be strategic, and that he’s getting what he wants.
I would stop covering this story. It might end badly and people don’t really know any of these people to care enough. This woman is going through all kinds of mental shit and blasting it for her entire family and friends. We don’t need to get updates. It’s cringe and I dislike mental health exploitation. It’s a show that doesn’t need press.
@4JLLM:
I wholeheartedly agree.
Cheers Eve,
I had a step mom that did similar to this with my father when i was in my teens. She lost her shit at the time (so no social media) but the the whole extended family got ALL the details. She is a good and wonderful person and i still love her.
Good people + mental instability + covid+ Divorce = hard times
Let it be and things could get better, eventually
She won’t even follow her lawyers’ advice to stop doing this.
I’m sorry if she is sad but this is violent stalker territory. And she’s encouraging her followers to stalk and harass him. I think a public spotlight is better.
Hey Maria, a public spotlight is important for toxic behavior!
It just doesn’t sit well with me, though, in this case. She is definitely wrong! I think we should just ignore her like the people most closely involved. This is all kinds of sad. Erase from the internet for their kids. No more echo for when this human being comes down from the social media ledge.
@Maria:
*You* think a public spotlight is better? For this horrid sh*tshow?
Well, I disagree. This is a circus of tragedy and I refuse to be part of it.
Some people seem to be out for blood on these threads. The reason? I don’t know. And I don’t want to know.
But some of the comments here sound no different from those her so called fans (who have been egging her on) post on her social media. And it’s almost as sickening as this woman (Evans) behaviour.
Anyway, I’m out. I won’t respond to anyone anymore regarding this subject so feel free to pile on.
Honestly, yes I do think a public spotlight is better because like others have said she is giving me Brynn Hartman vibes and at least now there’s an impetus to watch this space.
Eve:
Sorry but this woman is a problematic racist who has hatched plenty of her own campaigns to destroy people and this is part of it. Trying to pretend like it’s just “her pain” is normalization of abuse. Imagine if it was a Black woman doing this.
You can refuse to be part of it, nobody’s forcing you. Neither you nor I are *actually* part of it, I feel compelled to mention.
So why does a person in a mental health situation matter? because she’s married to a semi famous man? She is not doing well. Period. I can’t believe i have to explain this
We all have people like this in our lives.
Putting people in corners is always stupid
This woman is NOT doing well… leave it alone
My heart goes out to the kids. I can’t imagine the stuff she tells them.
I haven’t been following them – I’m not even sure who either of them are other than posts here. But someone tell me what I’m missing? She sounds very immature, but I don’t think you can lose custody of your kids by being a b!tch on Twitter? Has she done more? Either way, I get that she’s coming from a place of hurt, but girlfriend needs to pull it together. Surely she has some friends to tell her STAHP. If she doesn’t (and it looks that way) I’m kind of sad for her.
He could build a case on parental alienation based on what she’s admitted online- interrupting his parental times and telling the girls he left them and has a new girlfriend. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to tell your side of the story but she’s basically be harassing them online for days and is involving the kids to the point where one was so distraught she couldn’t go to school.
While telling her side of the story seems so messy, why should she have to be the bigger better person? Someone get her a reality show.
Alice needs an intervention. I have never witnessed such toxic behaviour in my life. Publicly attacking him, Bianca, his family, his co stars. Discussing his conversations with his children for the world to see. She refuses to understand what she has done wrong in the marriage. Constantly controlling him and belittling him. Dissing his nose, his hair, discussing his penis size. She just doesn’t get it. I can see why he left the drunk toxic control freak and I’m pretty sure most people can too
She acts as if she is the first woman to go through this – every day probably thousands of women are left by their husbands for someone else (and vice versa)….god knows my man cheated on me with my best friend and they are married now but you can either say I am the biggest victim or the kids are and find a way to behave like a grown up. Clearly she is a narcissist and egomaniac who has none of her kids best interests at heart….yikes!
She’s not under any obligation to go away quietly and leave them in peace. As long as she isn’t threatening or stalking them, she can say/post what she wants. When you find out the person you love was leading a double life, it makes you go insane for a little while. I hope it irritates the both of them and she’s forever a thorn in their side.
But she is encouraging other people to it
And the only evidence of him living a double life is in her head
Alice has a history of batshit behavior. In the early days of their relationship she created sock accounts to taunt his fans and then ordered him to destroy his own website which he funded. He seems to have missed these red flags and now she is taunting him and his gf. Even before the breakup she was nuts. Just search for TMZ and her name to see some crazy behavior in a parking lot. A hit, rant and run basically.
For a reality check today she says Ella Newton was unkind. That is why she is publicly attacking Ella (a bystander that said something nice ) Yet that very same day she called Bianca a “Ho” and Ioans mother a narc. Alice is a lunatic. I am waiting for the lawyers to strike because there is absolutely no way she can do what she’s doing and there be no consequences. She is likely to lose a lot more than her pride in the coming months.
She just keeps lying his co-stars have commented on his Instagram post that he is “finally free” and no longer has to “sneak around,” and this is proof they are duplicitous and that he’s been cheating for three years.
This never happened; those comments don’t exist. At most, his friends and co-stars left, like, a heart emoji or wrote, “Glad you’re happy!”
We can see her lying and shifting the story in real time, so I have to wonder about the people who ask us to give her the benefit of the doubt or believe anything she says. They must be truly awful people too.
She has lost it and its hard to look at. Geez, I feel for the kids.
I agree she does have the puffy face and erratic behavior.
Leave it girl, keep on and he won’t be able to pay you support.
Leave it!