In 2020, Robert Lacey published Battle of Brothers, a somewhat interesting look at the dynamics and dramas between Prince William and Prince Harry. Lacey’s original research and conclusion was that Prince William often behaves like an incandescent-with-rage dictator and that Harry and Meghan had good reason to leave. Then Lacey reissued the book this year with added information straight from Kensington Palace, if not William himself. It’s no big conspiracy what happened: William believed he was co-opting a biographer to “his side” and Lacey published all the sh-t he was told, then Lacey continued to be a shady B about the royals and he’s still talking out of both sides of his mouth. The truth is that Lacey knows a lot more than what he’s saying but he still wants to sell books and get inside info from KP. So here we are: Lacey has said new words about William and Harry and their relationship.
Don’t look to Princes William and Harry to reconcile anytime soon. Describing the current relationship between William, 39, and Harry, 37, royal scribe Robert Lacey doesn’t mince words: “Poor, definitely poor.”
Lacey, author of “Battle of Brothers: William, Harry and the Inside Story of a Family in Tumult,” told Page Six that William recently hosted a party thanking people who were involved in the long-awaited sculpture of his mother, Princess Diana that was unveiled at Kensington Palace last July.
“I’ve spoken to two people from that party and it was quite clear from things he said that his anger towards Harry remains,” Lacey revealed. “He remains unhappy about what his brother has done. There is no immediate possibility of any reconciliation. I mean, it’s not wanted on either side. Too many bitter things have been said.”
The bad blood between the brothers was also exacerbated by Markle’s alleged bullying of royal staff, something she has steadfastly denied. The incidents, which reportedly left some staff in tears, allegedly happened when the Duchess of Sussex lived at Kensington Palace following her May 2018 wedding to Prince Harry. Lacey says that the serious allegations were the cause of a screaming match between the brothers and resulted in them splitting up their staff.
“I am told by the person to whom William described this, that William physically went round to discover Harry on the Kensington campus and they had a face-to-face showdown,” Lacey said. “It ended with William saying, ‘Well, I don’t want you in my household anymore.”
“The Crown” advisor says there has been one “curious benefit” to the royal rift.
“Certainly on this end of things, Charles, William, and the Queen have been on the telephone to each other a lot,” Lacey said. “And a paradoxical benefit of what’s happened has been that now they have come to form an effective working trio at the head of things, with the Queen slightly taking a step back. There have been problems between the Queen and Charles in the past. Certainly problems between William and his father in the past. These are set behind them. And I’m told they have a very good efficient working relationship. And so the future of the Royal Family, and what it does, you know, is in very sound hands.”
The event Lacey references is the KP reception last month which William and Kate hosted to thank everyone involved in the Fakakta Diana statue. We heard at the time that William name-checked Harry and the initial reports were about how nice it was that William mentioned his brother. Now Lacey is saying that his sources told him William used his speech to rage about Harry? Sure, I’ll believe that. I don’t think Baldemort can help himself. It’s clear that Harry and Meghan live rent-free in both William and Kate’s heads.
As for Lacey’s repetition of the story that William “kicked out” the Sussexes because Meghan was bullying staff… again, prove it. It seems very, very important to William that this version is the official version, which is how you know it is not. Harry and Meghan left KP because they were being smeared by their own office. And if KP had any actual evidence or first-person testimony of Meghan’s “bullying” behavior, they would have amplified it by now. All they’ve got is vague stories about how “Meghan made someone cry” and “Meghan had a work ethic and expected staffers to have work ethics too.”
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I bet Harry is also unhappy with what have you done, Will.
William has never been truly happy. Not as a child, or as an adolescent and certainly not as an adult. Raging on Harry is getting quite old now. He wants credit for kicking Harry out sure, have at it. Now the stage is all his but what has been done with it. Flop after flop despite all the resources available to him. It must hurt him to see Harry earning a great living and thriving. Harry only has to sneeze and the press go running. Rage seems to be the only emotion Willie has left and good luck to him with that.
@Elizabeth Regina, 100% co-sign everything you wrote. Willy’s #1 problem is Harry, and especially Harry’s happiness. It’s been drilled in his mind since he was a toddler that Harry’s whole existence is to serve Willy boy and no one else. Not only was Harry better than W with everything as a kid, and always took attention from his bro because of his fun personality, but as an adult, Harry found his worth and purpose, and he had the audacity to find someone that amplified said worth. Someone he (rightly) puts above all other relatives (the Windsos are not family). His soulmate, who became his better half.
That lost of control for Willy boy has been devastating to say the least. Harry was never supposed to know his true worth, and Willy will (attempt to) destroy the person who helped Harry become the best version of himself!! This is why there will never be a reconciliation between the brothers, because H will always love and respect Meghan…his better half, his wife, and the mother of his children! And Willy, who is loyal to no one, will always resent Meghan from taking the best thing from him.
@truthSF Amen and Amen!
Willyleaks might want to take a minute to remember that Harry isn’t done writing his memoirs yet .
He is too busy not making sense to actually make sense and do sensitive things like stopping dragging his brother´s name to the mud while Harry is holding a heavy pen!
Burger King relies on his flunkies and the press to give him the temperature of the room. But all of the above have a vested interest in the brothers warring–they make money off or gain an in with Will if they participate gleefully in the demonization of Harry and especially that awful narcissist Meghan. Of course they are fine with Billy the Basher staying mad. Billy looks around and sees total support so why would he change?
Lacey clearly wants to keep the War of the Windsor Brothers going. It’s his go-to money spinner. What a sad, desperate life Bob leads.
Harry has left the building, Bob. He DGAF about what anyone in the UK thinks about him, least of all thirsty Rota Rats.
As for Prince Buckethead, he’s made his bed of roses, and now he can lie in it, can’t he? Pity about all those thorns…but these are the consequences of the choices he made, and now it’s time for Billy Buttercup to suck it up. If he didn’t want to be covered in flies he shouldn’t have let Jason Knauf haul buckets of manure for the Daily Fail.
and in other news, water continues to be wet. 😒
What happened to that internal investigation into Meghan’s “bullying”….? That seems to have died off rather quickly. I think we all know why.
Nuh-uh. H&M and their lawyers are just giving BP/KP all the time they begged for to find the evidence of their baseless allegations against M.
Afterwards, theyre gonna go at them with guns and knives drawn!
You Do. Not. deliberately tarnish and smear a person’s good name, who needs their good name to carry out the good deeds for which theyve always been known, and expect to get away with it.
Not a damn!
I’m wondering why the writer brought it up at all? Does he have knowledge of what’s happening with the suit, or is he just tugging Willie’s chain?
The two “complainants” have rescinded their stories and will not cooperate. The original email came from Jason Knauf and was sent to William’s private secretary who then submitted it to HR. It was not run by Harry prior to submitting it to BP HR as was originally reported. Knauf is a back-stabbing little a-hole who thought he could do William’s bidding and worm his way into an even bigger role within the BRF but it back-fired on him spectacularly. No wonder he’s barely been seen or heard from since, he’s a pariah.
Ohhhhh, that mean, mean Meghan. Wasn’t one of the complaints about Meghan sending texts at 7 am? Did those staffers actually think she expected an answer at 6:30 or 7 in the morning? I think she was probably like my good friend who often wakes up around 2 am, has an idea, and shoots it off to me. She does not expect an answer. But that mean Meghan with her incredible work ethic was to be complained about because she worked hard. I have no patience with wimpy protests of how hard it was to work for her, only for those protests to be rescinded. Luckily Meghan came home and Harry did too! We want, respect, and love both of them!
Good.
Stay mad.
Interesting that Willie allegedly said, “well I don’t want you in my household anymore” Confirms what we all know about him kicking up a stink when he can’t control someone. His hatred for Meghan must run pretty deep. It must be galling for him that the Sussexes unlike others don’t have to ask him for handouts.
I think his Meghan rage is, at its heart, from the point that she helped give Harry his wings. We know he always wanted to be out, and we know that the royal machine expected Harry to be sort of an assistant king to William someday as they knew that William couldn’t and wouldn’t do the work satisfactorily. He knew Harry would always stay even though he didn’t want to and that Harry, just by sheer dint of the fact that he likes working and being valuable would always do enough work and the rota would let that be William’s work.
Until Meghan came along and helped Harry bust out.
I look forward to whatever dustup is going to happen with William, whether he quits and removes himself and his children from the line of succession or just blows up the monarchy.
The thing is though all they had to do was leave Meghan alone & Harry would still be there. They both wanted to do the work. A Times report in 2019 said they wanted to even do more duties etc. It was the firm with the smear campaign etc that made it a hard atmosphere & made them want to step back. Meghan said the Meghan made Kate cry was the start of a character assassination & that stuff came from the firm.
Even when they asked to step back as senior royals their statement said they wanted to continue to serve the queen & do duties when called on without public money. It was the firm that said no you are either in or out. So this situation is entirely of the firm’s making.
That’s why I can’t feel sorry for William anymore when I used to. I get the whole thing about being trapped but how him/his office have treated Meghan & Harry as a result of whatever life frustration he has is despicable. There were more productive ways to deal with resentment, frustration etc.
‘His’ household!!?? What an entitled, jealous and possessive little twunt.
“And a paradoxical benefit of what’s happened has been that now they have come to form an effective working trio at the head of things’
Love this mention of how only NOW are they effective, since they all came together in communal rage about Harry wanting to enjoy his own life. Bless
How much do you want to bet that the different households are very much divided? Because they way these people lie they usually say the opposite of what is the truth.
I mean we’re seeing the divided households play out in real time. Charles saying that he’s going to go against his late father’s wishes and not give Edward DoE when its time (i.e. when charles is king), the articles about Kate the lynchpin, upon her shoulders rests the entire future of the monarchy, William should be the next king, and then finally whatever has been going on with charles and the leaks about his foundation.
None of us know fully what’s going on behind the scenes, but effective and unified this family is not.
Agreed. Unfortunately, the one household with a reasonable (for the RF) head on its shoulders is Charles, who seems to be afraid of both his son and his mother. So reason doesn’t stand a chance.
Gabby, I don’t think Charles is afraid of his mother. He might be afraid of how many more stupid/rogue things she will do re. Andrew in her declining years.
100%. Lacey’s example of this grand united trio is *checks notes* they talk to each other on the phone now. How …impressive?
@ Becks1, lest us not forget TQ and her allegiance to Pedo Andy with regards to her full emotional support, but her full financial support as well!! Chaz has always discussed how awful he was treated by his own Mum, for decades. TQ, Chaz and King of Rage are all speaking with each other and have developed a close relationship! Do tell Lacey!!! This ALL sounds like utter garbage fed to Lacey from none other than King of Rage and his little Duchess of Laziness ! !
Yes, since the departure of Harry and his brilliant wife Meghan, who we all mistreated, bullied, abused, and tortured have brought us all together as a happy family!! We are all much better now that Harry, and his evil bi-racial American wife Meghan, have departed Salty Island of Petty and Bullies!!
So the warring households we’ve been seeing over the past year is considered them being “effective”? Yikes.
As to the new “power trio”: nope, that can go right back on the shelf next to “the magnificent seven” and “the new new fab four”. But it is interesting that our beloved top CEO lynchpin is not mentioned. Maybe her contributions are so essential that it wasn’t necessary to even acknowledge them😉.
@merlinsmom
And Fire burns and the sky is blue etc….
@Scorpion
yep
Meanwhile Harry remains happy and thriving with his family in California.
“Very efficient working relationship” with his father. Whatever!
Is smearing his brother and his wife, baldy’s way of conquering America?
Good luck to them. I just wish they’ll stay on their musty island.
Interesting choice of words. Leads me to believe that there’s no personal family like relationship, only a working business relationship between the three.
Willam is angry because Harry is free. He can do nothing if he wants to, which is all William ever wanted. Not to mention Harry has a wife he adores, and William had to marry the only person willing to put up with him. It’s pure jealousy. Harry is more popular, more successful, and most importantly HAPPY! William could never.
It’s really sad to see this playing out. At the end of the day, you’re right, Harry is free to do what he wants and he’s happy. Maybe not completely happy because I think deep down we all want a good, supportive family network, but it’s as good as it’s going to get.
I can’t help but feel sorry for William. He’s stuck in a system, and stuck in a mindset. I don’t know whether he will ever be able to break out of it, but ultimately everyone deserves to be able to find peace. Not everyone is lucky enough to get to that place though.
Never mind.
I have less than zero sympathy for William. The position he is in is one of his own making, and he keeps doubling down on it.
No sympathy for either William or Kate. They made their choices.
Agreed @ Sid, @ notasugarhere!! The results of TOBB are all of his own making. TOBB wanted Harry to be his scapegoat, worker, kinging for him and suffer silently. Harry stood on his own two feet early and has maintained on his own two feet since. TOBB has never been required or expected to stand on his own two feet, nor does he have the desire to do so. TOBB is a selfish, hateful, manipulative, jealous and vile little man-child and he is not being given everything that he has demanded/expected.
William has been given every golden opportunity to make something good of his life but all he does is wallow in anger and self-pity. He can’t complete anything he starts, he’s saddled himself with a lazy-ass and dim wife he now apparently loathes, and shows not one iota of interest in developing a philanthropical or statesman-like career. If he feels trapped in his role, it’s all of his own making and his unbridled and obvious jealousy of his brother and SIL seem to be all that drives him.
“TOBB is a selfish, hateful, manipulative, jealous and vile little man-child and he is not being given everything that he has demanded/expected.“
I agree @bothsidesnow. This description reminds me of Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany.
Things didn’t end well for him
No sympathy for these 2 and the whole lot. They were fine to risk Harry and Meghan being unalive. I said it. They were fine to sacrifice their so called family. They were fine to make use of a murdered woman’s vigil for PR. They have no conscience.
@GraceB. Do you fee sorry for Harry too? Honest question.
No sympathy for Will, Kate – most of them. They made their choices to be complete racist lazy d*cks.
A good supportive family network does not always mean related by blood. Harry & Meghan are thriving. This isn’t easily done unless you do have incredible support around you. They keep the noise of the toxic relatives out and the positive, helpful interactions in.
Once in awhile Harry might miss something. He may also be at the point where he realizes he can’t miss something he may never of had to begin with.
William has freedom of choice, He could have opted to be a decent human being and stopped trying to interfere with Harrys relationship and subsequent marriage to Meghan. He is not “stuck” he chose to behave badly. It’s his nature and at this point I doubt he is going to change.
@PoppedBubble of course I feel sorry for Harry too, but he has done well and escaped the situation. I’m shocked to see so many people full of hatred, when the people they say they admire talk about compassion and understanding. There seems to be very little of it on here.
I would feel worse for William if he didn’t try to actively encourage physical harm on Meghan and wasn’t still doing it (these hate accounts are partially funded by his offices).
If it was just him fighting with Harry, my feelings would be different. But the aspect of him wanting to put a target on the backs of his brother and sister-in-law is frightening.
I feel worse for Charles in the sense that you mention than William, that’s saying something, lol. Not that he didn’t have his role to play, but William’s seems to be a lot more sinister.
It just shows that William lives in a bubble completely covered in teflon. The man is not capable of taking any ACCOUNTABILITY for ANYTHING. Thats how he was raised,so in his mind he really has never done anything wrong to anyone.
Good. Let it eat him up daily.
Yes
William’s obsession with Harry is his problem. It’s not Harry’s fault he has nothing better to do with his life than bitch about his younger brother to anyone and everyone. They are the only ones who keep this drama going and they had the audacity to tell people they’re glad the drama is gone. Clearly, that’s not the case.
“Prince William remains unhappy.” We can just stop right there.
+1
Yawn, nothing new. Sure does seem like the well is drying up for these royal ‘experts’. No new stories because H&M run a tight ship and the Keens are trying to conquer America. We’ve been talking about Will be angry for how long now?
William will end up solving the problems of the modern monarchy. He will be so bad at the job, that even the racists will turn on him, and George will never be king.
Problem solved.
Aristocrats should be humiliated that this is their public face,
William is just going to be a throne-sitter. Lots of Kings have been just that.
Hopefully, George can bring some fresh enthusiasm to the job when he gets his turn. George, though, looks more timid every day. When I remember the personality of the toddler that went to Australia or the one who was running around looking at everything at Char’s christening, I have to wonder what happened to change that.
Neither Char nor Louis appear as timid in their body language as George.
George and Charlotte see how angry their father gets about Harry and how the family feels about Harry.
George knows if he shows any independence, curiousity, growth, personality etc. he could be treated like Uncle Harry and no child wants to feel that way. I think George will be a willing moldable puppet for the Firm because he’s not going to want to lose the love of his family like Harry did.
George may not mind Charlotte & Louis taking the spotlight…George may be a naturally introverted child.
I think Charlotte will be the mini clone of William/Charles …the enforcer of all things royal.
None of the Cambridge children will ever have a relationship with any of the Sussex children…they are probably being taught right now Archie & Lili are MEGHAN’s kids (not Harry’s) and Harry ran off to America with “that woman and her kids.”
I’m sorry but what exactly did Harry do that has made elegant bil so upset . Surely a person who claims he loves his brother would be happy he left a situation that was making him unhappy, he would be glad his brother left to protect his family, yes?
Harry is supposed to be below William in all things. William is supposed to be the more handsome, more intelligent, more talented brother because HE was born first, damnit! There’s an order of precedence that must be maintained. But as he grew up Harry was the brother with Diana’s touch. Harry was the charming one, grew to become the handsome one, the war hero, the one who was most popular. When the royal family needed a charm offensive, they called on Harry, not William. Harry did the royal tours that Kate and William should have done in 2012-2016. Harry was the most popular royal. William hoped that Harry’s marriage would put Harry in his place–Harry should have married some minor aristo-adjacent (but not an actual aristo because that would make Kate look bad) bimbo who could have been turned into the next Fergie. Or, Harry should have remained single and stayed a third wheel to him and Kate. This isn’t about a man who loves and misses his brother. William is a malignant narcissist who has been told he’s perfect his whole life, even if he sees himself that he isn’t. He can’t stand to have anyone around who could be seen as “better” than him. He has never learned how to regulate his own emotions, therefore the “incandescent rages.” He’s a deeply unpleasant person with a cruel streak that he’s had since he was a child.
💯!
That’s the most elegant and spot on summary I’ve read.. ever. TY
@ lanne, well said! Brava!!!!
Harry met, fell in love, married, had children and left with a Black woman. Full stop. That is what happened.
Meghan was suppose to be a ‘phase’ that Harry was to ride hard and put away damaged. You don’t invite non white people to dinner at the family table.
Harry fell deeply in love with a talented, hard-working and accomplished woman who happened to be American, gorgeous, divorced and bi-racial. She showed up the Cambridges and all the lackeys around them as lazy, unfocused and back-stabbing. The Sussex’s early successes drove the Cambridges crazy with jealousy, and I’m sure there were some shell games with the Foundation’s money which is likely why it was split in two. They had it in for Meghan (and by extension Harry) from the beginning, they only played at being welcoming and warm. Didn’t take long for their true colours to show but now they’re eating the Sussexes dust.
Yep, all this! I also suspect Will immediately started ordering Megan around and she, reasonably, refused because why would a grown adult professional woman take orders from her husband’s brother? Preposterous
He will never be happy for Harry because he doesn’t actually love Harry – that’s the only explanation for all of this that makes sense to me.
Prince William and his rage.. it is exhausting to read about all the time I can’t imagine living in his circle it has to be a nightmare.
There is a lot going on this week, so I imagine the raging prince will be in full form for awhile, but does anyone outside the staunch royalists and rags even care? It (and he) have become a predictable joke.
H ruined his life plan of being lazier when he took his little family and left.
He cannot bear to be overshadowed, so he set to destroy them.
This is why I think William was the one who made comments about Archie’s skin color. I think all could be forgiven/forgotten (on Williams end) as time moves on, especially because William always wanted to be the star and this suits him. But William is big mad that Harry let that anonymous cat out of the bag (and that they are competing for headlines) and will never forgive him.
I’m just saying the thing about the offices is like… just normal family arguing stuff. But this all speaks to an unrelenting anger that I think can only come from fear of being outed as the Royal racist. It’s *personal* for him in a way it’s not with Charles.
I definitely think this is a huge part of it. There is something between the brothers that made Harry say their relationship was “space” while Harry and Charles are working on their relationship (according to Harry). Maybe that’s just Harry feeling a duty as a son that he does not feel as a brother, or feels differently, but I think its something more. William has been lashing out against Harry in the press a lot more than Charles has over the past 6 months. Like you said it seems personal. I think its partly loss of control – W is livid he no longer controls Harry – and partly just anger that Harry is now living this incredible life and William is going to spend the rest of his days opening red boxes in a drafty castle – but I think there is something else and I think its that William is scared about being outed as the family racist (ha, like there’s only one) and mad that Harry even put the skin color conversation “out there” in the public sphere to begin with.
Harry is living the life William wanted–independent, no royal nonsense, no one telling him what to do. I think William can’t stand this. He needs Harry to be as miserable as he is, and hates Meghan with a passion because 1) she wasn’t afraid of him and 2) she showed Harry that he could have a different future. I think William counted on a shared misery with Harry over the rest of his life, and feeling solace at the fact that Harry was more miserable than he was. Harry seems to have hated royal life for a long time, and William would have known that. I think William is willing to destroy his own life as a means of “payback” to Harry. I feel for William’s children, who I think will bear the brunt of his anger and frustration, which will be blamed on Harry–it’s Harry’s fault that I’m so upset and you kids have to walk on eggshells around me. If he can’t make Harry miserable, what are the odds that he won’t turn that desire to be King of Misery Mountain on his own wife and kids? I hope for their sake that they are living apart from their dad most of the time. It won’t be the first time in the royal family–King George 5 was a miserable SOB of a father, as was Philip to Charles. While Charles might not have been as bad, and seemed like he showed real affection for his kids, the truth is that he had terrible role models, and it’s possible that his “affectionate dad” image was more image than fact, especially as he spent a lot of their childhood caught up in his own relationship drama. So for William to be a less than warm and loving father would be more expected than not.
@Lanne I definitely agree. it’s been made clear that William really isn’t happy with his lot in life – he likes the perks, but not the duties and not the public interest – and i think he was okay with it because Harry’s lot was always worse because he was always going to be second to William, so at least there was always going to be someone “worse off’ than the poor pampered privileged prince, at least in his mind. It’s really kind of disturbing when you think about it.
i also think that William is so used to having Harry as a scapegoat for everything in his life that he is having a really hard time grasping the fact that Harry is gone and he needs a new scapegoat, and he better not look to Archie and Lili for that, because harry WILL fight back and defend his children.
Harry has been building himself a way out of the royal circus since he was 19. He founded Sentebale at 19 with Prince Seeiso, not with his own brother. He founded InvictusGames, also without William. The mistreatment of Meghan from the start may have been the final nail in the coffin, but he had built plenty of outside charity work on his own. Always planning for (the possibility of) a non-royal future.
@Millenial I think you nailed it. This amount of constant rage is difficult to explain just by envy and lost of control. I think it’s fear. Fear to be outed as Royal Racist number one. This can be so damaging, it would be impossible to restore, even with British lying press on speed dial. Therefore the constant attempts to destroy Harry’s reputation.
@Gina, thanks for helping me think this through. I definitely think the ongoing, sustained rage and nastiness is not easily explained by being upset about Meghan’s alleged treatment of staff + the falling out over Harry leaving. I think most siblings (even those who don’t like each other) would sort of just say, “well, let them live their life, I’ll live mine” and wash their hands of it. But this weird vendetta William continues to hold against Harry I don’t think can be explained by just leaving the Royal family. Which leaves me to assume he’s the Royal Racist.
I don’t think most people would be bent out of shape about William being outed as the racist. In fact, many people probably already believe that. Besides, all the press has to say is that Harry lying, which the already do, and the public goes along with that narrative. I think William is fearful, maybe a little bit about being racist, but mostly because he’s an utter failure and cannot be king without Harry. He’s afraid that people will discover he is unfit and he’s angry because Harry isn’t covering for him anymore.
British royal reporters just can’t help being clownish royal sycophants!👑🦜
Lacey knows the change of heart to reconcile has to come from William, as he stated in previous articles. He’s too cowardly to repeat that.
I love that they are stuck putting lipstick on a pig and pretending the pig is a beauty queen.
Ooooh……..beautifully stated.
This is getting old now, Willy. Either get some therapy or shut the hell up. Harry is free and he’s never coming back. Deal with it.
I seem to remember that all the stories about the Sussexes move to Windsor said that William was angry about Harry moving. Now its switched to “William kicked Harry out”? Next they will claim that William wanted the Sussexes to move to California and it was William’s idea to sign the Netflix deal. As far as William, the queen and Charles having this wonderful working relationship? I’m sure that’s exactly how Charles feels about all the ” skip Charles for William” stories. Anyway, how many times is Lacey going to rehash the story? Is the audio book version of Battle of Brothers being updated? At least he did say one thing that I believe is correct and that neither of the brothers has any interest in reconciling.
It is so much revisionist history from William, with him falsely claiming he had any say in the matter. The Queen and Charles were moving Harry and Meghan to under BP to get them away from William’s raging and control issues. William resisted, released his own info about the Household remaining the joint, with separate staffs, but William still controlling Harry and Meghan. QEII and Charles shot back with their own leaks, confirming they were moving Harry and Meghan to their own separate Household under BP.
And even if you don’t remember that from when it played out in real time, it just makes sense looking back at it – Meghan was such an out of control bully but when she got to BP she just stopped? At Archewell, where she is THE boss, she’s fine, lovely, not a bully? Also interesting that when they moved to BP the leaks mostly stopped as well except for the big leaks that came directly from KP (like the story about William wanting to send them to Africa, etc.) Not a single peep about Vogue, about the Smart Set, about anything they were working on. No complaints about early morning emails or being asked to attend meetings etc.
The bullying thing. Ugh. I think William really loves that story being out there and being repeated in stories like this. Most people know it’s BS but it still gets repeated. There’s no evidence and yet the accusation is still attached to Meghan’s name. Like Kaiser says, it’s revisionist history and it’s really really important to William that this story is repeated: Meghan was a bully and William stands up to bullies by kicking them out of his household. The truth is Meghan and Harry never did anything that warranted William’s anger with them so William needed a reason to be angry. The true reason being he is a jealous racist terrible brother doesn’t really look good. So he really needs this standing up to Meghan the bully story to stick.
@becks1- the fact that Meghan wasn’t a bully anywhere else but KP must be an annoying detail in William’s revisionist narrative.
Good. Stay unhappy William.
I definitely think that this reminds me of the Trump era, when you knew if he was accusing someone else of doing something that he was guilty of the same thing. I think KP is desperate to keep the real reason for the separation of the households a secret – was it William’s bullying, William’s rage, William’s laziness, William’s mismanagement of money?
Hear me out. I think the brothers dust up was real. Sort of. Just like the “Meghan made Kate cry story” but in fact the opposite happened, can there be a kernel of truth? I think Billy had long wanted the Sussexes (or maybe just Meghan) gone. Initially, he tried to get them sent away to Africa but that fell apart. So, Knauf was task with making it a reality. These minions know that if they do something special for the principal, there is a reward at the end. KP minions lead by Knauf came up with this fictitious story to meet Wills’ needs of ridding the Cannots of the Sussexes (or ridding Will of just Meghan). Billy went to Harry and they had a major blowout. I think it was mutual. Will long wanted them gone and Harry did want to work with people who tried to smear Meghan.
Right, that’s my point. It’s clear there was some reason for the breakup between the households and that William is desperate to make it seem like it was all Harry’s fault and there was no other choice, when the reality is probably what happened.
your timeline is a little off though – the story about banishing them to Africa came AFTER the households had already separated (that’s why the Sussexes were able to clap back about it in the press). I honestly don’t think William wanted them out of KP, that gave him less control. So after they were out from under his thumb, AND after the rose hanbury story broke, he put the whole “lets banish them to africa” story out in the Times and it did not go well for him.
I think William never wanted Meghan as a permanent in Harry’s life. But he also wanted them, if they were to stay, under his complete control. That’s why he freaked out about separate Households, Harry and Meghan wanting a separate Foundation with the Hubb money in Fall 2018, etc.
William was the main reason the half-in, half-out plan was rejected. Because he wasn’t going to get to keep grinding Harry and Meghan under his heel; they would have been under the Sovereign Grant and BP.
@nota – This off topic but I needed to tell you that you were right about Apartment 1 in Kensington Place. I did all the research I could do and found the Keens did not take over the living quarters of the Gloucester apartment. The Keens only took over all ancillary quarters (servants-staff apartments, storage areas, garages, etc…etc…) connected and/or affiliated with Apartment 1 aka the Gloucester Apartment at the Kensington Place compound.
Mismanagement? I’d say possible misappropriation. I’m convinced there’s some financial shenanigans happening there.
Harry: discovers shady financial goings on with the Cambridge part of the foundation and orders his and Meghan’s charities to be earmarked so they won’t be embezzled by Elegant Bill
Elegant Bill stalking across Kensington: WELL I DON’T WANT YOU IN MY HOUSEHOLD ANYMORE!!! (Eric Cartman voice)
+1
This totally happened, I’ll bet.
@Maria –
“Eric Cartman voice” hahahahha. Ladies and gentlemen, we have finally found someone who can make Eric Cartman look honorable by comparison – TOBB.
Charles, William and the Queen have been on the phone a lot. Duh?… So isn’t that what you would expect an aging monarch, her heir and heir apparent should be doing?
These people are devoid of common sense.
Nobody cares about Willy’s unhappiness because in the real world people have bills to pay, children to feed and take care of, parents to take care of, and in some cases both.
Working people don’t have time for this claptrap. But it does make for good gossip to enjoy.
So Jason knauf (pictured yapping it up with Kate and will at cop 26 last week) has given a witness statement for the Fail’s appeal in Meghan’s case. He was likely the senior royal source who met with the fail’s editor earlier this year& passed on info. He was also behind the bullying report & briefing the press about that before Oprah. He’s not operating in a way William & Kate are unaware of. So given that I imagine Harry isn’t too pleased with William either.
It’s odd to see the bullying claims mentioned as I don’t think most of the press who don’t like Meghan even find it believable & most dropped it quite quickly after the Oprah interview. The orgs that Archewell are partnering with likely don’t either.
I get that royalty must be different but given all Harry & William have gone through together with loss of their mother etc I don’t understand what would possess William to act this way towards his younger sibling. I wonder if any of their mutual friends or relatives tried to intervene. Can’t recall many reports on that.
One of the staff with the fake bullying claims (Toubati) was a Jason plant all along. They’re close.
Ok so the egg & H went thru the same trauma regarding their mother’s hounding and death at the hands of both the Institution and the BritShitPress. However, the effects of that experience on each of them has been shown to be fundamentally diff: W sided with the oppressors of his mother; H sided with his mother.
So the fact that W can treat H the way he is showing, via his mouthpieces & henchmen, is true to type. W is a very damaged man and everyone around him knows it.
Jason wrote up the “bullying” report and gave it to William’s private secretary who submitted it to HR. Despite Jason working for the Sussexes at that point, he stabbed them in the back with fabricated complaints, then the complainants rescinded said complaints once BP started their investigation. Jason is a grasping, Machiavellian little weasel who will do and say anything to gain status within the BRF so cozying up to William to ruin Meghan and stir up sh*t was the logical next step. Next thing you know he’s heading up the Cambridges’ foundation. Since the announcement that he would be leaving to move to some as yet unknown country to follow his husband’s “new career”, he’s been keeping a very low profile. Gee…I wonder why…
. Next thing you know he’s heading up the Cambridges’ foundation
Jason was promoted for being a tool. Period.
Question for UK peeps:
If/when William becomes king, what would happen if he refused to sign the papers in the red box, or ignored them for months, or decided he didn’t want to meet with the PM, or went into some kind of towering rage during his meeting with the PM? Or even worse, decided unilaterally to fire the PM because they weren’t deferential/didn’t take his shit/weren’t to his liking/had an annoying laugh/one of his Norfolk mates had some petty grievance and William wanted to settle scores by flexing his power? Would that precipitate a constitutional crisis?
How important are these meetings held between the monarch and PM/papers signed by the monarch for the constitutional underpinnings and continued function of the UK government?
William’s instability, constant rage, and general laziness seems like a huge liability for both the monarchy and UK government. Was this the reason why people freaked out (and continue to freak out) about Harry stepping back? That they were hoping Harry would be the Responsible Adult and do all of this as a stand-in for William?
@LaraW” All excellent questions that should be asked (and answered).
King Edward 8 was notorious for seldom reading the red box stuff and worse, leaving it out and about to be seen by others. Not only was he a Nazi sympathizer who sucked up to Hitler, he was an absolute liability as a King with the papers. So there’s a precedent for a king who doesn’t take the job seriously. At least Edward 8 abdicated to marry Wallace Simpson, and there were many people in government who were happy to see him abdicate.
I think people remember this, and thought “at least Harry will be there to keep William in line.” Harry would likely be reading the red box stuff behind the scenes, even though he would still be labled a dumb oaf in public. Now William’s on his own, and they are stuck with whatever he chooses to do. Maybe Kate will read the red box stuff or worse yet, it will be dumped on George at a young age in an act of parentification. I could see George being situated to be a parent figure, as many oldest kids in dysfunctional families are. He might end up reading the red box stuff in high school.
This is how you state the obvious and craft an article to keep your status as a royal reporter. Quite a gig if you can get it. It also speaks volumes about the UK audience.
William will stew in his fury and regret forever. That’s his choice. Harry has chosen freedom, love, and good work. And that’s the tale of two brothers.
So William hosts a party & bitches & moans about his brother & SIL to guests? How does that in any way make him look good?
Exactly! It’s completely unprofessional, petty, mean-spirited, and considering it was a memorial event for their deceased mother, incredibly tacky. Sounds about right for William.
It’s been 18+ months at this point. Everyone else has moved on (or they’re not still publicly complaining about it). He should too. This is what he wanted – to be top dog. He’s got it now. He’s just mad because it didn’t happen the way he wanted it to (Meghan gone, Harry not).
It has been almost two years really. They left for their six week break in Canada in Nov 2019, and never really came back.
It blows my mind that anyone actually thought they would come back to England.
As my mom would have said to William “you have gotten exactly what you wanted and it is most becoming!”
The kid,s birthright is to be king but it doesn’t make him a kind generous brother or husband. So rich in material things and famous and powerful but poor in spirit. It is a shame when you consider that they could indeed have been the second Fan Four!
If William butthole still hurts because Harry loves his wife and refuses to stand aside and let her be racially abused and smeared by willyleaks and his peeps, then that is your problem Willy. You should have married someone who you loved or at least take the time to find out how to love someone else other than your incandescent man baby self , you f——-ing selfish balding butt clenching bastard.
P.S Robert Lacey is a spineless D—-k.
He really is pathetic.
So it sounds like Willy boy was nice in his speech about Harry at the statue party, but went around bitching to the guests about him.
I’d guess he was grumbling because he couldn’t force Harry to come to the event. He thought he could drag this Diana stuff out to keep Harry at his beck and call. He failed.
As for this “effective trio” nonsense, I wonder if this is Will’s way of saying now that Harry’s gone, he is constantly on the phone with Chuck and TQ making demands and threatening to leave like Harry…all so they give him what he wants. That sounds like Will’s idea of effective.
@laraw
You need to research your history. The heir apparents all of them are ceremonial and have no input into anything UK govt whatsoever. If anything THEY need the government for Optics-to include them in the dealings. That’s why Everytime there’s a visit of importance. The queen sets up a dinner. That’s why they’ll always kiss up to whomever serves in that capacity. Cause just like in California, the royals needs that person WAY more than the other way around
People who see the royals in the uk as not only superior, but almost a completely diff species than human beings are eventually gonna hv to come to terms with the fact that H&M hv successfully thrown off the massive yoke of pretentiousness that royalty in the 21Century is and, like all other human beings with wealth and clout, hv the luxury to carve out their own sphere of influence and thrive and be happy while doing so. And it has nothing to do with their accident of birth but, instead, the strength & beauty of their character.
Wooton’s story and this story would not be necessary if William and Kate were working and doing engagements this week. It’s the constant disappearing act on the part of those two that creates a news vacuum and the need for “royal reporters” to write nonsense for their columns since they can’t/ won’t write as real reporters and question why the queen took a helicopter ride over the weekend or why she’s not following the environmental rules on her Scottish estate.
Most people have a plan B, or if their current plan didn’t work shift to a new plan. William seems to not have had a plan B and incapable of moving on and coming up with a new plan. It’s coming on two years since Harry and Meghan left and William is still stuck back in time. He need therapy, journaling, medication to help him move on. What we all see as laziness could be untreated depression.
Why is William still angry? He got what he wanted which is the spotlight on him and his wife. If anybody should be angry it’s Harry because KP smeared him and his family and the rest of family did nothing.
This was my question, too. He wanted Harry out, he demanded that Harry get out. He was successful in achieving his goal – so why be angry?
I wonder if William isn’t at all angry, but actually glad that Harry is gone. I think the RR is romanticizing this “brotherly relationship” because it’s not quite nice to think that Will doesn’t love his brother, so they make up this story of hurt feelings and resentments to try to prolong a relationship that doesn’t exist anymore.
And Kate is usually part of the scenario. the trio were SO Close say the Cambridge fans. I think the closeness was and is overstated.
He’s angry because subconsciously he knows he’s a failure — at his job, in his marriage, probably as a parent. But people like him tend to project their anger at themselves outward onto everyone else – family members, spouse, etc. They blame those around them for their failures and choose to wallow in anger and self-pity. Seen it happen many times in my life, even with my own sister.
@Amy Bee, why is William so angry? Because when the gods wish to truly punish us, they grant our prayers.
Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.
The Royal Family’s only positive value in the world today is to be an entertaining soap opera. And now, they are a soap opera without any heroes, only villains. Diana was many people’s hero while she was alive, and then her fans rooted for her two sons. But now that it has turned out one of her sons has grown up a villain, and the one who is really a hero has left the show for good, the whole soap sucks. It’s no good with zero protagonists. Maybe young George will step into that role sooner rather than later.
Totally true! I follow them like a trashy soap, indeed.
LOL. Yeah Lacey, we can see what a miserable rage-filled piece of shit William is. Seriously, throughout this year he’s constantly had clenched jaws, even more tense body language than usual, and an expression like he’s been perpetually sucking on ten slices of lemon. Everything that he’s going through and feeling right now is a result of his own decisions and he deserves the misery.
“William physically went round to discover Harry on the Kensington campus and they had a face-to-face…”
More ridiculous tough guy rhetoric from William. Why is “physical” part of this sentence? Are we saying that William, a grown man and father of three, was so incensed on behalf of his staff that he forgot his only brother’s phone number contact and so had to spend hours stomping around their shared office “looking for” Harry like some jealous middle school boyfriend screeching “I’ll see you after school!” at his perceived rival. Cuz that just makes it an even more pathetic performance.
Recycling old news for clicks, book sales, and BM job security. Harry and Meghan are carrying that islands media needs.
One of the most interesting things Robert Lacy said in “Battle of the Brothers” was that Harry was perpetually portrayed as the “clown” and the scapegoat. Harry was set up as a buffer that allowed William to be unaccountable for his actions and to look good in comparison. I think other people set it up this way when they were very young, and William saw it as normal and felt entitled to this treatment. Eventually, Harry matured, met his eventual wife, realized what was happening, and decided that he didn’t want the role of clown or scapegoat any more. He also saw his wife being set up in the same way. Harry got his family out of firm’s grasp. William has never forgiven him for refusing to be that buffer any more and for not allowing his wife be a scapegoat and a buffer. Now William has to be accountable for his actions. One more thing. Harry said London was a trigger, not the royal family. Harry handed them an excuse on a silver platter and they were too stupid to realize it.
Is that staff incident related to that friend of Jason’s who got fired for gross misconduct? Because I feel like there’s definitely a story there and that the palace are shady about the details for a reason.
The resentment william has for harry is deeper than his racist views. Imo it is very personal, not to be discussed.
Well William was working against Harry, what did he expect?
Didn’t anyone ever tell Bill that bitterness is like drinking poison and hoping the other guy dies? He is just the most miserable person ever.
William’s ever-clenched jaw gives him away, we don’t need to be told. Harry should cut off all contact with the sap, the situation isn’t going to get any any better. In fact, after the Queen goes, it’ll get worse. H&M should demand an apology for the abuse they’ve taken or cut all ties for the sake and honor of their children. And they’ll regret it if they don’t. The RF are worthless fakes who have proved they’ll sacrifice their own to preserve their privileges and advantages.
If the Uk media would leave the Sussex family alone-they might get a different outcome of family rekindlement-the royal family could make this happen-Meghan and Harry and Archie left the Uk on their own accord-they have a right to decide what’s best for their family as any other living human being on this planet-Salty Isle have enough problems to write about-needle sticking young in bars/they need to get on this asap-Boris ‘s investigations into his cabinet so to speak-helping to improve your climate-need to work on the racism towards poc on your sports teams-the Northern Ireland problem from Brexit-I don’t even live there and can see problems that your media is not tackling until they catch up with you-all these things has an effect on UK citizens daily lives not what Harry and his family are doing in America-STOP ACTING LIKE INSANE SHITSTAINS FROM HELL.
The reason William is so furious that Harry and Meghan left is because now William has to actually work.
They were supposed to be the inferior royal couple and take all the crap and let William control everything….and they didn’t.
And worst of all…they are doing really well on their own. I have no doubt that William is seething 24/7 at the situation.
“It ended with William saying, ‘Well, I don’t want you in my household anymore.”
This is so freaking telling for me. It basically seems to imply to me that William saw Harry and Meghan as a part of his household staff. I do not think for a second he meant this in a familial way at all. And it shows the sense of ownership William feels over the Royal Trust. He thinks it’s HIS. The staff are HIS staff. They work for HIM. And Harry does too, and so does Meghan. He sees them all as people in his orbit whom he can have around or dismiss at his whim and fancy. Unbelievable.
William basically told his brother to GTFO. When you act like a little dictator, stomping around, screaming at people to get out because YOU don’t WANT them anymore, in a SHARED ENDEAVOUR between the two of you. Well. What did William fcking expect. The fucking dumbass.
What would stop William from abdicating, when the time comes? If he truly doesn’t want the responsibility of being king, he could leave and let George take his place. You never know what the future holds.
William is clenching on to that butt plug so tight. Just let it go and move on. What a petty dbag.
Lacey needs to STFU. I never trusted him.